(upbeat music) - Welcome everybody to Ujiband, I am Jeffrey Paul, I'm joined by my co-host, Sean Morton. - Hi, beautiful, how you doing today? - Sure, what you doing, showing off the guns? - Mate, no, I got this and you know where I got this? At Forever 21 in Beverly Hills, when I was out there in February for $2. How'd you get that for $2 to a great shirt? - 'Cause it sucks, it's fucking ugly shit, you don't see the rest of it, but $2, I brought this all the way back from friggin' LA. - I don't know, two years ago, I went to the stadium tour and I get there and you know, they have all the shirts and you know, poison had the best one, I thought they had the best side of the night and so I bought this poison shirt and I fucking lost it and I was never, I went online to see if I can get it again and it cost me $60, too. - Yeah, I can remember, you know how in our lives we have to go through so much shit, like you need just certain things just stick in your brain, I got a Skid Row youth gun wild shirt at Giant Stadium 1989 when they opened up for Bon Jovi and Billy Squire was like the support act and I brought it down to that stupid water park and seaside heights and because I was a fucking fat little kid, I kept my shirt on all the time and then I was soaked, I was completely soaked from going on all the water rides and I took her off and put a clean shirt on and I left that fucking thing there, it haunts me 35 years later. - It does 'cause you can't find those shirts anymore. - Oh, totally. - You know, those great, great classic shirts. I wanna get started with this today. I love August, he's not only a great comic and knows everything about music, but he's also like one of the best guys ever gonna meet. I really sincerely say that. Let's introduce our buddy Don Jameson. - Hey, what's up boys? I love all the concert shirt talk and yeah, nowadays with the prices that shows, you can't afford to leave your t-shirt behind or lose it somewhere. My girlfriend and I went to see John Five at the Gramercy in New York through about three months ago and she bought a double Casa Migos and Tonic. I think it was literally like 48 bucks. - Is that the same Gramercy? Is that also owned by Master Square Garden and Beacon? - I think so, I think it's the same family because that's about right. - I forget, but yeah, but that's one thing. You know what, she was like, "I'm just gonna have one drink the whole night." So it was like, fine. But we get up into the showroom. Now the lights go down, the show starts and everybody now jockeys for position and someone just slams, you know, right into my girlfriend's arm. I have to drink spills out. So that's like $24. I only had $20 in my wallet. I would have rather you robbed me. You just build more alcohol than money I had in my wallet. So it's crazy, but this is how bans, you know, not with their booze, but with the shirts that, you know, most bands are t-shirt salesman for a living. You know, that's how they're actually making money, which, you know, it sucks. They don't make it on the music anymore. They make it sellin' you cotton. So I try to always buy a t-shirt when I go to a show whenever I can, but I hold on to it for dear life. - Same, same, same, same, exactly. - I bought three the other night. I went to see Blackstone, Cherry, and Nonpoint. And I bought two Blackstones and a Nonpoint shirt. 'Cause you know, the money's going right to then. There's, you know, in a lot of them are having cool merch for a Nonpoint had a Nonpoint cassette player. Like a little mini, like portable cassette player that you plug into your auxiliary, which I thought was fucking phenomenal. What a great idea. I've never seen that before with a band. I thought it was really cool. - I think bands gotta get kind of creative with the merch because I think the whole record industry has really like flip-flop. 'Cause I remember back in the day, you would like put out your album and like you'd make your money go for points from the record. And like now, I think bands almost give 'em the music away for free. - Yeah, that's pretty much what's goin' on. You know, Sean, I was gonna go to that show, but I had Tom Kiefer at Starland on Thursday night and then Sammy Hagar Saturday night at the art center. I'm like, I love Nonpoint and I love Blackstone Chariage. Just, you know, I'm like, I'm 57. I need a day off in between, man. But I'm sure it'll be true. - I will tell you, you would have had a lot of room to roam around. - Oh. - Really? - Yeah. - I have been a Blackstone Chari fan since their first record and I never got to see them. And like two years ago, me and my buddy went down to the Vogel in a Red Bank, right? And, Dom, I'm tellin' you, if 45 people were there, it was a lot. Like we walked up, I walked out with a guitar pick, a set list, a drumstick. - You got to do the encore. - I got the bass, whatever we want that we got. - How much were tickets? - I like 30 bucks. - Really? It's not even the price of the ticket. - But like, Starland, Jeff, you've been there a million times with me too. It's like, they curtained off both the sides, like all the way up to the sides. Like, only that center bar was wide open and the floor was empty. Like, it mean maybe 500 people were there. - Every time you and I've gone, it's always been jam-packed. But we also wanted to go see Zach Wilde and Dirty Honey. How was the Tom Kiefer show? - It was great, man. His voice sounded killer. And, you know, the band he has now, he's had like for 15 years. And as much as, you know, I was always a fan of Cinderella back in the day. Of course, he plays a ton of Cinderella songs. This band is so much better than Cinderella ever was in their heyday. I mean, you know, they basically had a touring drummer who, you know, they wouldn't even let play on the studio albums 'cause he just didn't, you know, have the precise chops for it. And this band that he has now is just, they're just kick-ass, man. They're just, you know, this group of musicians from Nashville and there's a million great ones down there. And it's great, man. It was really, it was really cool to see those guys. Really good crowd for Thursday. I don't think it was quite sold out, but it was definitely a lot busier than the show you saw, Sean. And, but with all the vocal problems he's had over the years, man. I'm so happy to hear him just singing. So great, so spot on. - So you had to go, Mark, you know, Mark McAdanna. - Yeah, of course. - Yeah, yeah. Rick Adon and I went last year to see Kefa. It was Kefa, Wenga and Karabi. - Yeah. - We missed Karabi because we wound up before, before Wenga was done, we must have been at least, you know, 10 in and we just had like a kill time. We were in the first row. I mean, it was just great. And I just thought Cinder, and I was like, "Kefa was really great." I wanted to go, I've been wanting to see him again. And I just had a show on Thursday night, I would have gone, "How was Hager?" - It was good, man. He played a lot of deep cuts this time. Usually when he does, comes around with the circle, it's just all hits, you know. But yeah, great summer show. Sammy sounded great. They had Joe Satriani playing it. - 75. - 77, he's 70. I think that, wow. - Yeah. - And he sounded good? - He sounded amazing, yeah. Jason Bonham on drums, and... - Michael Anthony. - And Michael Anthony singing the old Roth stuff, which was great, so... - Wow. Speaking of, let's get into the first second. Done. Van Halen or Van Hagar? - Oh, Van Halen, for me, personally. - Yeah, and how about you Sean? - I'm a Van Hagar fan. - The win number two, this is again, Jeff, I always bring this up and I don't mean to do this all the time, but you gotta remember, this is where my age comes in, too. Because when, you know, David was gone, I was only 12, maybe. No, less than that, I was probably like 11. So when Van Hagar came onto the scene, I'm like, you know, the late '80s, I was getting really more into music at that point. So I think OU-812 is really like kind of, the first album, I had 1984, because that was just the monster that it was, you know. But I think OU-812 was the one that really started me on the path where I realized I liked Hagar a little more. - I think he's the better singer, but I think you may have the better songs with Van Halen. - Yeah, that's what I noticed. But again, you know, Sean probably would have really dug, you know, a lot of the Van Hagar deep tracks that they played, you know. But to me, yeah, to me it's, you could see the difference in the deep tracks. You know, I think the Dave deep tracks are way better and way more well-known than the Sammy ones. But for me, it was cool to hear some other stuff. - Like what, what was it, what did you consider a deep track done? - They have the song Seventh Seal. I think it's all balance that they played. They played a lot of stuff about '51, '51, '50. Couple of songs that I didn't even really know. So... - You did some at night? - Yeah, summer nights, but that's a fairly popular one. - Yeah, best of both worlds, right? - Yeah, they did that. They did the song '51, '50. - That's a good one. - Yeah, so it was good. - Do you do dreams? - No, he, Sammy. - He don't do that a lot. - Sammy said that was, Sammy's honest about it. He goes, "I can't sing it anymore." - How about love walks in? - Do they do love walks? They did that and they did right now. - Right now as well, for Colonel Knowledge, that great song. - Yeah. - I was satry, I ain't man. - Yeah, dude, he's a genius in his own right. But I know from being around Joe a lot, he's such a humble guy. You could tell, this whole time, it's just so genuine about playing the solos the right way to pay tribute to Eddie. And that's one of the things I love about Joe, is he's just, he's a guitar guy in his own right, but he still bows to the greats that came before him. So yeah, I loved it. He was a great addition in there with Sammy. - That's kind of how I felt when we saw Zach filling in the Pantera last year or two years ago. 'Cause, you know, Zach, you know, it's satry on, he has his own sound completely. And Zach has his own sound too, but the way he was playing all the Pantera songs, trying to keep it as close to the original versions as they were, and still throwing his own little spins on them, but I feel it was kind of the same way. - Yeah. - I thought that was great and I thought the drummer, you know, the Anthrax drummer, who filled in was excellent as well. He was amazing. - I haven't seen, I haven't seen it yet, but I will say, like if you were gonna do it, those were the, those are the two guys. - Sure, exactly. - The number one choice in both those open positions. So, you know, people, you know, I'm still a little undecided on it. I know a lot of people are, but at least I know like the right people are in there doing it. So, and I'm glad it's, I mean, it, people, you know, a lot of people, I got to see Pantera a whole bunch of times and a lot of people happen. And nowadays, man, these, some bands have one original member, no original members. So to say they have half original members, it's almost a badge of honor now. - I, I have five times in eight days, like it was in 90, probably 97. It was them, Cold Chamber and Machinehead. We went from Boston to New York to Jersey to Philly to DC. - Wow. - It was just fucking him. The show's just completely insane. That was, people don't understand like when you see a lot of these newer bands and like they have a big like TikTok presence or big online presence and things like that. Back then, there was nobody in the metal era that was holding a can little Pantera live. Those shows were just an absolute experience every single time. - Yeah. - I would get back what Don was saying about, you know, you don't have original members and bands last week at P.N.C. like the big show was Stix and Farna. And I think between the two of them, there's one original member. That's hard. One original member. Like there's two-- - Two and Stix. - Two and Stix. - No, he's not original. - No, Tommy Shaw and-- - No, he's not original. He joined later on, he joined on Grand Illusion. The album before he was not in the band. - Okay. - Thanks, James Young. - I'm thinking that you're right. Yeah, no, technically you're right. I'm just thinking of the classic lineup that everybody knows. - Okay, so let's give it to Tommy Shaw. You have Tommy Shaw and James Young and no one in Farna. - This is what I deal with Don. This is kind of like when you're on the show with Eddie Trunk. And you think like you know a lot about music. Then Eddie pulls something out of his fucking ass that you've never heard in your entire life. And you got to forget three minutes later, this is every fucking week. I got to deal with this shit. This guy, you know, the guy damn guitar player from Stix had for breakfast in 1984. Again, that was my era, man. I loved Stix. I mean, I loved him. But speaking of bands, Adam, let's cue this up. Don, this Tuesday, tomorrow night, we're considering seeing this guy. Can we play a little bit of this video for Don and Sean? - Yep, getting it. - Yeah, let's start it. - Yeah, I'm very curious about you guys' opinion on this guy. - I get high for this. - You should. - Probably. - Here we go. - You don't have to. - Peer pressure dog. - All right, here we go. And you guys know who this is? - Oh yeah, Corey Felman. - How great is this guy? - Got tomorrow? - This is tomorrow. He is on Louisville. - I think I might be joining you. - Do you know this song, "Essential and Millennial?" This is like a day in the life of Corey Felman. (upbeat music) - This song will be played tomorrow. This video, I believe, is shot in this house. - Yeah, it's good hair, though. Look at him. - God, I wish I was second-handing on Sean's vape right now. I can't watch this. (laughing) You're going, but you're going for the train wreck, right? I mean, that's really-- - No, no, I'm going for the pure music. - Yeah, of course. It's like there's a new video out now if you go on YouTube and we tried to find it before where he plays with a track and he emits it because he says it makes the sound better. So this will be playing underneath, but they played the track before he came out and they show him yelling at the band, but there's always some type of malfunction in a Corey Felman show. Like, even in this video, look, watch, he's having a hard time putting on the glove. - No, it scares me because you watch this enough to realize that the scene where you're at the trouble with the glove. - Do you have any rabbit holes of Corey Felman I've gone down? - I don't want to know, but now I know never to check your hard drive. - Oh, I've watched him at the line. Oh, look, who's at it? Look what it is. - Oh, who's that guy? - Sean asked him. - Sean asked him from the Goonies to get it. - Yes. I was mesmerized by Corey Felman's Michael Jackson outfit considering the guy molested. I wouldn't be wearing the clothes of the person and molested. - Yeah. - All right, I think we gotta tap out of this. - Yeah, what do you think of the music? - Arendis. - You don't like it. - That's brutal. - That was pretty rough, Jeff. I was trying to decide between this and Comeback King, which is his opener. - Yeah, that's the opener. Yeah, I've heard that's all I've actually heard before, but you're going for the train wreck. I mean, that's why they're opening for Limp Biscuit, right? That's the deal. - Yeah, he's, I think they have three bands before Limp Biscuit and he's the first one on. And he does maybe about six songs. - You know what's great about Limp Biscuit though? It's one of those bands that no one will ever admit that they ever really liked. You know, they were a fucking hit machine in the late '90s and early 2000s. And people always just give them a lot of shit because of the gimmicky kind of aspect to it, but I'll tell you what, 25 years later, there's not much I would still put on from that genre, and I would definitely still put a Limp Biscuit so not once in a while. - And it's crazy because they'll have 15,000 people at the Arts Center tomorrow. But not one of them will ever admit that they like them, but they're all by tickets and they're going and it ain't for Corey Feldman, although again, I see if Corey Feldman was going on direct support to Limp Biscuit, then I would go, but I don't want to go inside at 5.30. Watch Corey Feldman, then I got to sit through, what, at least more other bands before Limp Biscuit. You know, like "Loverboy" opened for Sammy Hagar. And so we were listening out in the parking line. That was good tailgating music, you know? They sounded really good, but we didn't go in. We didn't want to be in that early. So I mean, you're going to be in there a long time tomorrow if you go. I've noticed the older we get, we really got to like every fucking band on the show. And like there's a show coming up in a, say, it's "Clutch, Rival Suns, Fu Man, Chew and Blackstone Cherry." That's a good show. So that show opens at seven. I'm going to be there at seven because I want to see all four bands, but like Blackstone Cherry Show, yeah. And I was two of the local band, I mean, not local. I'm sure they're on tour with them, but like, I'm not standing around and sitting for that extra hour and a half, two hours, wait until the band come on. I managed to time it perfectly. The last song of the other second band was on, Nam Poem was on in 10 minutes. I was a very happy fat boy. - You know, it's a good hack when you go to PNC, is if you don't want to like go in, but you still want to like tailgate a little bit, is go into the live nation tent, the VIP tent. You know, it's very easy, you know, to get your name on the list there. And you go and you get drinks and food and everything. And you can even watch some of the bands on the monitors there. So it's not a bad thing to do. - Or you can do it. - What I do is buy a house 15 minutes away, door to door to PNC and show of 15 minutes before the fucking show starts, too. - You can do that too, yeah. I'm going to sell my house so I can do that every summer. - I think we should. - Let's switch gears here a little bit. Since we've been talking music, Don, you're a big football fan, right? - Yeah, absolutely. Unfortunately, I'm a Jets fan, but I guess that's still considered football, I'm not sure. - It is considered football. It's considered high quality football. You're a big football fan. You did work on Inside the NFL, right? - I did. - Yeah. Yeah, so I wanted to get your thoughts on this season, particularly Jets and Giants. Let's start with the Jets. - Well, my joke is, you know, that I hope Aaron Rodgers last, at least twice as long this year, you know. - And that's a good fucking joke. - 'Cause that's what that be, eight plays. So, you know, I was surprised he came here, man, 'cause, you know, he's, I like him, you know. I mean, you can't take, whether you like him or not, you can't take away how great he has been, but I don't know what he can do for the Jets. Is this gonna be another Brett Favre, where we're getting the guy at the end of his career. He's just getting that one last payday, and they're gonna go 500, or can he elevate this team? I mean, they improve the offensive line. Their defense was already really good. So, there is a chance, but, you know, he's gotta stay upright, and whatever he's gotta do, if he's gotta go hide in a cave for a month, or, you know, freeze himself in a block of ice, like David Blaine, whatever it takes to get through the season. Let's get it done, and we might have a chance, even at the playoffs. - Am I, when am I bet with Florentine? - You guys are so adorable, Jeff Fett. - I know. - You're the same shit, every... - It's not the snow, it's not the snow. - Everybody stays healthy, we gotta choose. - It's not the same, 'cause this is the year. So, I'm done, I have a bet with Florentine, okay? I say the Jets are going 12 and five, but as long as they win 10 or more, I win. I think that's a lock. - Didn't he go off on you on stage for saying that? - He did say that. He did a 15-minute rant on how delusional I am about the Jets going to... - That actually involves delusion. - Yeah, but I'm 100% right this year. - There is, listen, if you go through the rosters of the NFL and you look at the Jets schedule, which I've done, okay? They could, if everything breaks right, they can easily go eight and two, but I don't think they go any worse than seven and three in their first 10 games. - I'm not gonna be that bold. I'm not, listen, Sean, you know, I can be delusional, but that's highly delusional. - It's not highly delusional. - You're in 161 episodes, right? 161 episodes we're at, Jeffrey. This is their fourth preseason of NFL. Four fucking years in a row. I'm here in this bullshit. And you know, I'm gonna hear at the end of the season, well, you know, we had a lot of injuries. - No, no, no, not this shit. - We lost like points and I shut up. - Oh, we got to, we got to COVID. We got backups. We got backups. Like last year, you know, Roger's goes down. It's over. Roger's doesn't have to play all 17 games. He could sit out four of them and the Jets will still be all right. - I'm sure they'll do that at $175 million a year. I'm sure they want to go far in the playoffs. Listen, if everything breaks right, they can go to a Super Bowl. Why not? They almost, they couldn't be the chief line. - I had nuts. Should be my uncle. What the fuck does the difference is it? - What do we think about the Giants? Anyone watch the hard knocks? - No, I haven't watched it yet. No, my buddy Eddie Trunk is a die, die hard Giants fan. And I think even he's on the fence for this year. Yeah, I don't know. You know, it's, I think this is kind of a make or break year for them, right? I mean, either they got, either they take a step up or I don't say tear it all down, man. They just, just hasn't been that good. - I think they got the money. I don't have any like, I don't go into it every year with like the raw, raw bullshit. I don't at all. What for basketball is the only sport that I'll do that with. I can't do it with any baseball, obviously, 'cause I'm a Yankee fan. And we know how to win, like on like the Mets. But we... - Oh, winning 5-1 when I came down. - Yeah, 6-1 now. - It's okay, nice. It's okay, you guys deal with that. Yeah, football is like, I'm not one of those people who ever go like that far deep into it. Like Jeff always like, you gotta join the fantasy football league that we do with the comics. And I'm like, no, I like pussy. - Yeah, John, you wanna join the fantasy football league this year? - I'd rather Zach Wilson blow me than join the fantasy. - We could arrange that too, but come on, it's really cool. - It's not really, what's really cool about it? It's Dungeons and Dragons for sports games. - We have drinks. - Yeah, drinks, I have drinks too. I don't think it's-- - Okay, there's drinks, there's food. Okay, we can go to a bar, continue. - Okay. - Also, we have hookers. - We can do that too, real quick. - Yeah, so there's a little something for everybody. We do it at Black Betties. - Ah, yes. - Okay, so now what was that? - I don't know, is that an all at a depressing place? - No, no, it's good for your self esteem. I walk out of there, I feel better about myself. - Yeah, exactly. - And then I start rethinking my life choices. - All right, I'm trying to think of it, if it's too early to talk about this in the show. Now fuck it, Adam, let's show this to Don, because, and before we do, Don, you're a big movie fan, right? - You know what, I'm not really, I'm not a huge movie fan. - But you like movies? - No, I do, but I'm like, I still have a DVD player, I still basically watch the same 12 movies that I own. - Well, I'm sure this is one of the movies that you enjoy. Can we show the opening scene of this movie? 'Cause I think this is one of our favorites. - Yeah, let me just pull this up. - Yeah, pull it, pull it up, let's show, like this is a really good scene too. It's a lot of fun. And yeah, it has all the elements that we-- - It's falling in Jeff, by the way. - What's that? - So you really suck at stalling. - Well, okay, you guys ready? - Yeah, he knows we're gonna show this and it takes him five fucking out of the bowl. Pull it up, let's go. (laughing) - Here we go. - Do you know who that is? ♪ Sister Christian all the time has come ♪ ♪ And you know that you're the only one ♪ - I know it's a movie. - Oh, this is a great movie. - What is it? - Don, you wanna tell him? ♪ Where you going, what you're looking for ♪ - You should almost tell me it's fucking fleas. (laughing) - Rock of age. (laughing) - Come on, this is good stuff. - Yeah, free, please don't ever tell Jim Florentine you like this movie. Hopefully it never speaks to you, yeah. ♪ It's true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true ♪ - Now everybody on the bus is gonna sing. ♪ Yeah, you're under it ♪ - Oh God. - Yeah, they're on the bus, so they're motorists. ♪ Nice but fly ♪ - You don't like this. ♪ In finding Mr. Light ♪ - All right, Jeffrey's trolling now, I know what's going on. - Yeah, you think? - Is this, how cringe is this? - Yeah, you're than Zach Wilson. - Okay, I think this, Adam, pull up the next clip. - I like to introduce my new podcast called "That Damn Band Show" with my host, my co-host, Don Jameson. I think the only thing worse, well, it's not worse. - That was horrible. - The movie was the worst thing I've ever seen. I saw this live on Broadway. - It was great. - It was not great. - I saw it with Constantine. - No, I liked it, I thought it was-- - You thought this was great. - I thought it was really good, yeah. - On Broadway? - Yeah, I saw it on Broadway. - Come on, it was fucking retarded. - Jeffrey, it's definitely one. - The only thing like this was like the Rocky musical, which I also saw. - Okay, and the Rocky musical had a song called, "At least they didn't break my nose." That was a real musical number. Now, I think this is the worst scene ever filmed in music history, coming up right here. This is beyond brutal. Now, I think this was actually filmed on the Sunset Strip. You see, Debbie Gibson's in the background, you see her there? And Sebastian Bach is there? Kevin Cronin from, there he is, Kevin Cronin. Did you see him? - Oh, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, they mean that shit. But you think the Holy Rollers are gonna take it? (upbeat music) - How embarrassing is this? - I've been a co-hosting with Target, absolutely. - I know that, look at World 4D, you have to run back and forth with the microphones. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - All right, can I just go on record and say, I don't hate that song. - You didn't hate that clip? - No, the clip is fucking atrocious. I'm saying the actual song itself, I don't hate that song. And it gets a tremendous amount of hate. I think it's a catchy pop song. - We're not gonna take it or the other? - No, we built this city by Jefferson Starship. - I don't think it's bad. - Oh, a lot of people think it's one of the worst songs that's ever recorded. - It's like saying people hate Nickelback and Nickelback doesn't deserve the hate it gets. - And they tell you, great documentary, by the way. It's on Netflix, I don't know if you guys-- - Don, not a fan of Nickelback? - No, I was still cringing at that scene. I went and saw it on Broadway, too, and it was funny. The blonde guy that was in one of the shots, his name's Joel Hochstra and-- - Oh, yeah, yeah. - Joel plays, you know, he played the White Snake. - White Snake. - And at that time, he was actually playing the Night Ranger. Joel was in the Broadway show. And I was friends with Joel, I still am. But he was out the day that I went. And they sent me and Jim and Eddie from that metal show all down there to see it. 'Cause they want, you know, VH-1-1 to do this big thing with it. And at the intermission, I left. It was so bad, so I couldn't sit through the whole thing. - If you really left their intermission. - Yeah, there's one point where this girl is pretending she's handing out the flyers, like on Sunset Boulevard for all the bands. You know, they put the posters, they used to put the posters on. And she throws them all up in the air and all these Midwest housewives and stuff were like reaching up, trying to grab them. And there was one left and it was just right down in front of me. And I wouldn't even acknowledge that it fell in front of me. And all these women were just blaring at me 'cause they wanted that thing so badly. And then I just stepped on it and flipped it. (laughing) - It's like I refuse to ever get up and do the wave at a fucking stadium or I flat out refuse. I plant myself, I refuse to move my arms. - Or stand up and try and get a free t-shirt. - Yeah, I'll do that. - Yeah, yeah, I'll buy a t-shirt, it's okay. - Yeah, your t-shirts are only $2 so you don't have to worry about it. - Fuck you, dude. - So Joel was out on tour with Night Ranger and his friend was filling in on guitar on that show. By the time I got to the corner of like 46 and Broadway, which is maybe five minutes, my phone rings, it's Joel, he goes, "I heard you just walked out "of the theater, how did you know?" You're in like the point. Like my fill-in said he saw you wave at the intermission. I go, "Dude, that was so bad." He goes, "I'm sorry, man." He goes, "When I'm there, it's a lot more rock." And I go, "No, don't worry, it's not you." I just, you know, musicals just, I don't know, they're just musicals of any kind of coordinate of me. So I need those to say we never did anything on that metal show with it. And they even offered us to play like roles, like standing at the bar in the background and we were all like that. - You should have done it. - No. - You have to sit through the show every night. - No, you should have been in the Broadway play in the movie, King. That'd be great. You could be like pumping your fists and you're really angry 'cause you're not gonna take it. - Yeah, well, we built this rock. - Did you take like an extra fucking moron pill tonight? What am I? - If you had the chance to be in "Rock of Ages," you wouldn't do it. - Oh, fuck yeah, I wouldn't. - Yeah. - So what's wrong with that? I think I made a big mistake. - I wouldn't say that. - He could have been in "Rock of Ages." He could have been standing alongside Debbie Gibson, screaming, we were not gonna take it. Or maybe he could have been the guy who comes downstairs 'cause there's a scene which we didn't show. But there's a scene where Russell Brand and Alec Baldwin are singing. I can't fight this feeling anymore while they're singing it into a brush. They're singing it into a brush and looking at each other's eyes. And do you remember the classic white? Like you could be the guy who comes downstairs and says, "Hey, here's a delivery." And then Alec Baldwin says, "I'm busy." And then you would go with what? And then Alec Baldwin goes, "Fallen in love." - How many times have you seen this fucking movie? - Seen this movie. Any time it has ever come on cable? - Apparently, yeah. - It is a remote drop for me. - Do you make a nice little cup of can of meal and you need to get it on the floor? - No, it's just a bubble bath. - It's, oh God. - It's the worst visual I've ever had in my life. It's Jeffrey sitting in a fucking bubble bath at an iPad watching "Rock of Age." - Yeah, drinking some tea, cleaning my toes. - No. - Alec Baldwin should have shot himself after that. - That could be. I mean, I think every scene in that movie is the worst scene I've ever seen. And I had on a different podcast, I got into such a big thing with Dustin Schaffen over this because he's like, you know, it's a pretty good movie. It's good, you know, it's rock and it's all, I'm like, it's still garbage, it's brutal, it's terrible. But speak of some things that aren't, or at least I would like to know more about it. And no one of the cool things you do, Don, is you do a lot of these rock cruises. How are those, is it difficult to do stand up on them? Do the people wanna hear your stand up? I know they like you, but are you going there just to kind of like MC the events? - Yeah, but we do comedy shows on the cruise and people like it because you get a break from the music, you know, 'cause you got bands literally playing from 10 in the morning till 1.30, 2 a.m. in the morning. So, you know, there's always, there's other stuff where you could just take a break where you don't need to hear the music, maybe Q and A's with the bands, which we, you know, we host and, you know, they do contests, so you think you could shred contests where cruisers bring their guitars on and they go up and they, you know, they all compete and there's a celebrity panel of judges and I'm usually on that. And then the stand up shows people like 'cause now what we're doing too is we're, we're getting on every cruise a rock star to do stand up for the first time. So, people really go crazy for that. - So, what have you seen to it? I know the singer and Queen's Reich has gone up and he's pretty good. - Yeah, Todd did great. The last cruise was, yeah, it was Todd Latori and Red Beach from winter. - Oh, wow. - Yeah. And both guys did great. Both totally different guys, you know, Todd, much more cerebral, you know, Red was just like, just filthy, you know, but both super funny. And I got Kibweinger to do it the year before that, which was really great. 'Cause the first thing, when I emailed him about it, he just wrote back two words. Ask Red 'cause he knew, he knew Red could do it. He knew Red, Red does impressions, Red does voices. Red's got a million like dirty stories. He loves to tell. And I said, no, that's the whole thing. I know Red could do it and wants to do it. I want you. You're like, you know, you're like the hot bartender at a strip club that nobody can get. You know, I want Kibwe first. Then I'll go on to somebody else. Like, if I can get Kibwe, I can get anybody. And I finally got him to do it. And I remember that we sent him the first draft of what we wrote up. And he just writes back like a half hour later, this sucks. (laughing) - Yeah, I think it would be good if he did like some self-deprecating, you know that himself. - Oh, he totally did. - Yeah, that would be awesome. - When I got him back on FaceTime, and we went through it, then he goes, okay, yeah, I wasn't reading it that way. He goes, I still want to retweet some stuff. And then when he did it, he sent me a really nice email, saying thanks, man, I'm glad you hung in there with me. I was on the fence, but he goes, that was an amazing experience. So, you know, it was cool. Like Kibweinger or not, you know, he's an interesting guy. And he was not afraid to be self-deprecating. - You talk about a guy, we talked about Nickelback before it in Limp Biscuit. You talk about a band and a guy who didn't deserve the unwarranted blowback pushback. You know, Kibweing is definitely that guy. - Yeah, I mean, you know, he was nominated for a Grammy for Best Orchestral Composition. Like he's writing operas and stuff now. He's a really talented guy, but his band was, you know, known for one, they had a bunch of hits, but the song everybody knows is, "She's Only 17," which, you know, the first time he came to see me when we were on the cruise, he walked in the room, and I had to say something, because everybody kind of turned around and was looking and I go, "Yeah, there he is." Kibweing are the, you know, famous for the song. She's only 17. When you have the number one song about being a pedophile, that's a crazy band right there. And the place went nuts, and he started, and then he turned around, he laughed, and then he was walking out and I go, I go, you know, "Bye, Kibwe'll see you later." He's, Kibweing is the original R. Kelly, everybody. Give him a hand, and I still do that bit once in a while in my act, too, if we have a good rock crowd. But, yeah, no, he's cool like that, man. He's not stuck on himself. But, yeah, and that band's better than, you know, if you ever go see that band, they're really great. - I saw him last year, they opened for FIFA. But, you know, you've done that metal show, you did that Jameson show, which I was like fortunate enough to go on a couple times. What are some of your favorite rock stars that you got to interview? And who were some that said no or you just couldn't get that you would have liked to? - Well, when we did that metal show, you know, we never got Eddie Van Halen, we never got Aussie, we never got anybody in Van Halen. I mean, not, well, I shouldn't say that. We did get Michael Anthony, we did get Sammy, but we didn't get, you know, neither the Van Halen brothers. Although it was funny because, you know, when we used to have the guest guitar players, you know, Eddie sent his EVH equipment, the amplifiers and all that stuff over to us to use. So, and we were hoping like eventually, he first he sends the equipment, then maybe a pair of shoes and a pair of pants, and then maybe eventually, you know, Eddie himself shows up, but he never did, Aussie never did. So yeah, those guys, you know, pretty much. But, you know, the guys, you know, the guys that get the most, most eyeballs are the guys who are completely unfiltered. So, you know, like when I did that, I just posted my, that Jameson episode on my YouTube channel with an interview I did with Ted Nugent about a year and a half ago. - Uncle Ted? - That gets backed by far, blows every interview clip out of the water. I mean, it was like at 10,000 instantly after I-- - Why is that? Why him? - Because whether you like Ted or you hate him, you gotta watch because you wanna see what the hell he's gonna say. And guys like him or Phil Anselmo, Marilyn Manson, Dave Mustaine, these are guys who will say anything that comes to their mind. They're totally unfiltered, and those are the people that make the best guess because people have to tune in whether they like him or they don't. - I think part of like the secret of you is that you have, I don't think this could be taught. You have a unique way of making your guests feel very, very comfortable. And like, you know, when I watched you interview, like I'm sitting there and you're just, you know, you're very authentic. And I think that comes across. And I think these guys know what they trust you. - Yeah, well, I don't, you know, we don't wanna shit on anybody necessarily, but you also, you know, there are, you know, what I always said, like when we do, when we did that metal show, we gotta still be able to talk freely if we don't like something, but it doesn't mean you have to crap on someone to make a point. So yeah, I mean, I wouldn't really have anybody on that I wasn't sort of a fan of, or trying to learn a little bit more about, you know, I had a bunch of young up and coming bands on the show. And you know, it was like, yeah, I wanna, you know, I wanna learn about these guys too. So I always have fun, you know, I try to do something a little bit different, but I had 12 rock and roll Hall of Famers on my silly little podcast. So I'm really proud of that. And now I'm doing a new thing with Keith Roth called Rockstrap, which is us interviewing rock people about sports and interviewing athletes about rock. - Now, yeah, who'd you have on the last one? I think you had the, there was an ace freely, was it? - No, we did David Bryan from Bon Jovi-- - That's it, David Bryan from Bon Jovi. - The first episode, yeah. But we have about eight of them taped now. So, you know, we're gonna be rolling them out every week. And the David Bryan one is on there. Just look up Rockstrap, Apple Music, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. And just, you know, I've interviewed so many people, man. So I wanted to do something different where it's not just, you know, also tell us about the new album. Is this your best album yet? Are you gonna tour on it? Like it's, you know, it gets kind of monotonous after a while. So to have, you know, David Bryan come on and just talk about the Giants for a while, you know, he's a big New York Giants fan. That was cool, you know, and I liked that spin on it. And the same with athletes. These, you know, we're all sports fans here. We hear those dumb interviews. Oh, yeah, we're gonna, we're coming back tomorrow. It's a team game and, you know, it's a long season, blah, blah, blah, blah, fucking blah, you know. No, they wanna come on and see, you know, they wanna talk about Rock and then going to concerts and all that stuff, man. We had Jeremy, Jeremy Ronik on. So that's an episode coming up, you know, legendary hockey player. - Sure, Chicago Blackhawks. - Yeah, he just wanted, he was just a massive, massive music fan. He's friends with a million different rock people. So you get, you really get a lot more out of him, especially athletes when they don't have to talk in sports cliches. - I was always really impressed with Piazza. His love from now. - So deep, you know. And yeah, and I've been to a few concerts with Mike. I mean, he's, you know, when he gets in that mode, he forgets who he is. - Yeah, but it made you like to him more as a player because he's like a guy like you could relate to, right? - Yeah, when I used to go out to, when I was working at MTV back in the early days, I used to go to LA a lot to work on, you know, different special events for MTVs. And I would always go catch Dodger games 'cause I love Piazza. And I was like, this guy comes up to metal all the time, you know, and obviously he was already a star by then, hitting tons of home runs. And when he came to the Mets, man, I couldn't believe it. I'm like, like, we never get that guy. And not only is he a great, great, absolute, you know, Hall of Fame player, he's a metalhead. And then, you know, to actually meet him and become friends with him too was amazing 'cause him and Eddie were good friends 'cause he used to listen to Eddie's radio show. - Right, he would even come into the studio and guess. - Now, I was a big fan of that metal show. I loved it. I mean, it was the only show that really like spoke to, like guys like me and wanted to like hear more 'cause I mean, you would never see these on the late night shows. But the one episode that really stands out to me and it was very eerie was the Jay and Elaine interview because you guys had him on and then I think it was two weeks later, he passed away. Did you notice anything about that? Is there anything you could tell us about that episode that maybe like, did you see it this coming? - No, he was actually, so he was sober, I think like he said six weeks at that point. And he was in great spirits, man. And I talked to him for a while after the taping and I really liked him, man. I didn't really know him before. I'd met him a few times, but I really liked him. I'm like, well, I really hope this guy can hold it together. He just seemed like a real bright guy, but he was obviously tortured, you know? And, you know, I'll tell you, man, what people asked me about episodes I was proud of. You know, that one definitely I was because I hosted a benefit that his brother put together. You know, he's from Akron, Ohio, like him and Marilyn Manson were both from the same area. And his brother Eric, you know, asked me to come out and host a tribute to him, which I did. And the first thing he said to me is, I thank you so much for, you know, taking my brother for a walk down memory lane one last time, 'cause I know how much fun he had doing it with you guys. And you treated him with so much respect. And I was like, yeah, cool, that, that means a lot. - Yeah, we had, yeah, my best friend always had this thing about Jamie Lane. I think he was probably one of the most underrated songwriters. - Oh yeah. - That rock, that rock era, like the late '80s and early '90s. I mean, some of the things that he wrote, man, just you could still listen to on the radio any day of the week. - Yeah, well, he got, you know, and his angst a lot of it came from, you know, they had a similar thing like Winger. You know, Winger got pigeonholed as she's only 17 band and Warren got pigeonholed as the cherry pie band. And, you know, he hated that because you're right, Sean. He could write some really deep lyrical stuff. And that song, you know, was a kind of, you know, obviously it was a huge hit, but those lyrics were ridiculous. I mean, you know, we all know that, but so I think he, you know, he, I think it bummed him out that at least, you know, look, that song made him a great living, but, you know, he would have loved Uncle Tom's cabin or while he talked to be the biggest singles of his career. - Uncle Tom's cabin is like, I think, is that best work, man. - Very much. - That is the amount of much more song. Say again? Every time I started by Uncle Tom's cabin, I was a sophomore in high school and we had to do an original oratory thing. And of course, I was not the great, not that I was in the greatest student. I had other activities that I enjoyed a lot more in high school. And so, and I'm like, I don't know what the fuck I'm going to write about. And I'm like, this guy has no idea. I'm a Warren. (laughing) So I basically broke the lyrics out. (laughing) But just for the record, let's get this story. (laughing) See me and my Uncle Tom were fishing and it was getting pretty, I wrote the whole thing out. So then like, you know, we handed thing in and like a week later, it starts going around and he's like, yeah, this was a great, a great assignment. But I gotta tell you, one student's really stood out his best writing of the year by far. I want to read Mr. Morton's assignment. It was called Uncle Tom's cabin. I'm like, oh, fuck, he's got to call me out. And as soon as he says it, my best friends next to me going, are you fucking kidding me? (laughing) And he read the whole lyrics. Just completely allied to it. - That's a stir. You can't tell Don how you would upgrade your seats at Master Square Garden? - No, no, okay. So here's what happened. So my buddy used to work at WDHJ. He was the metal DJ over there and he would get us tickets for everything all the time. So got us a whole crew of us the Metallica tickets when they had a volbut open for them a couple of years ago. So I was partaking a little bit in the parking lot. I had me, you know, Joe Fernandez? - Yeah, of course. - Okay, so it was me and Joe Fernandez, my friend's sister-in-law and his best friend. We get stuck two rows from the top. I'm like, it's okay. They're free seats, whatever, we're cool, you know? Joe's stone cold sober. I am fucked up beyond belief at this point. So the girl's like, we gotta go to the bathroom. And I'm like, well, you know, let's do the gentlemanly thing and let's escort them down there. And so I'm barely getting down those steep stairs and met like, I'm fucked, right? And as soon as we go down our exit, we see guest services and I go, guys, come here. And I walk up to them and I go, do you guys have any other seats? And the girl goes, why would some matter? I said, look, I don't wanna say this out loud too loud, but I'm kind of a pretty famous comedian. And it's my friend's birthday. Pulls out her license and goes here. And she goes, you give me tickets for a show? I go, anytime you want to give VIP, honey. Hands us four tickets. She goes, you enjoy. I look down 14 fucking row on the side of the state. - And you gave a ticket to the comedy cove. - Yeah, exactly. But we wound up getting the open of a whole side section and we were down. We went 14 rows down and the section was completely open. So then I took all four tickets. I'd run up, I'd bring three more friends down. I'd have them. I'd grab the four tickets, run up, bring three more friends down. We had the whole section to ourselves right alongside the stage. And Jeff hates that story. - It's so great. - I would never do that for him. - We didn't, we wouldn't have to 'cause we would have good seats going in. So that leads me to this. - Oh, it's more fun to get over, you know. - Oh, I used to do that. Oh, I was a kid. We would get like the 400 sections in Mazda Square Garden, then jump down off from that section and then go and try and go all the way down as far as possible. And we used to get really far. - And Joe Fernandez said if I heard that story, I would make fun of you so bad because I was there and I got to receive the 14th row ticket because that it was the greatest fucking thing I ever saw. - But this leads me to this. Another thing, like my son loves it. He turns his friends in college onto this, the terrorizing telemarket is, okay? So if you get like a bump from Connecticut, you can thank my son, Ryan, to that, okay? Everyone at the University of Connecticut who hangs out at University of Hartford who hangs out with them. They're all into this now, okay? - That's great. - Terrorizing telemarket is. How did you guys make those? I mean, did you just sit around all day waiting for telemarkers to call? What was the process of them? And how many did you have to go through to get like some real good ones? - Well, we're still doing it. And yeah, like nothing's really changed. It's just like, you know, Jim and I almost like a band going into the studio. Like we put one out like a year and a half ago. We have seven volumes of them. So if people like prank calls, and of course our thing is they're all incoming. They're all telemarketers bothering us. So, you know, we always feel, you know, in their scum, of course. So we always feel like, you know, we have every right to, you know, just mercifully, you know, annoy these people. But yeah, like we hadn't made one for about three years before that. And when we plugged in the landline in Jim, in Florentine's basement, like literally a minute later, the phone started ringing. Like it was like they had been calling, you know, for years, but you know, he didn't have the phone plugged in. And then the minute we plugged it in, the calls started coming in. We started recording them. We just do them on like a little radio shack, like mini cassette recorder, you know, you know, and then we just digitize them in the computer and edit them. But yeah, you know, it depends, man. You know, you get, sometimes you go, you do like seven calls in a day and you don't get any. The other times, you know, you do seven calls and you get three great ones. It just depends, it's all on the reaction, right? It's like, because they have to, it's all theater of the mind, because they have to believe whatever premise Florentine and I are going with. Now, is that, is that already determined that what you're going to do? Or do you guys just kind of play off of each other? It depends, it depends on, because again, we don't know how they're going to react. So sometimes we'll come up with a loose concept, but they might not be responding. So then we'll change direction, but we know each other comedically so well. You know, I'll see. I'll go, okay, he's changing it up here because it's not working the other way. And then, yeah, and then we'll just start riffing on it. And, you know, just silly stuff, man. It's amazing. And the last one we put out went to number one on the iTunes charts in comedy. So, you know, to be a guy in his mid-50s with the number one comedy album of Prank Hall say, God bless America. - You're like the new abbot of this, because you are such a fucking buster. There's two that really, I think about it, this is so funny, with, he's on the phone and you're popping up. You done yet? - Okay, yeah, he's still on the phone, dude. - And the thing is, it's very convincing. So I can see where someone, and you keep doing it. And the guy is getting more and more agitated. That's a funny one. - And Jim's just acting like there's nothing wrong with me, busting in literally every five seconds. Like, no, I'm still on. Like, he doesn't get aggravated at all. It's up to the telemarketer to get activated. And he finally does, which is great. - And then the two of you guys contradict each other. He wants it, you don't know something. It sounds like, I mean-- - Oh, yeah, yes, no, I don't know, which he found out from my buddy, Dizzy Reed, who plays keyboards and guns and roses. He said, Axel Rose, that's his favorite one. Like, he's played the calls for Axel, and he goes, his favorite ones, yes, no, I don't know. Where the telemarker asks the question, Jim always says yes, I always say no. And then our friend Chuck, who did it with us, I said, I don't know. And we just, we drive the first telemarketer nuts, and then they put the supervisor on. And I always love that 'cause they, the supervisor was like, I'll handle this now. And then we drive him off the phone too, so. - You gotta hear these, Sean. These are so freaking funny. But like, you are, it's like, you don't have any mercy. - Well, like, what do you, yeah, I mean, that tension's funny, you know? I mean, it's not funny unless there's tension. My favorite one from the new album is the COVID mask one where the telemarketer needs information. He goes, well, my roommate has the information you need. And I come on, I'm like, yeah, good stuff. (mumbles) So that's three. And he's like, wait, what'd you say? And just, I heard a three in there. He goes, I need more than a three. I need all the other information. - That's great. - He's got COVID, he doesn't wanna, I'm not vaccinated. So I don't wanna, you know, to take his mask off. And we just drive the guy crazy. And I, just as he's about to get the information, the mask muffles it again. And yeah, that guy, I can't imagine he lasted the full day. - It's, I think, another one, classic. You're not on this one, but it's a long one. - The record? - The what? - The record. - The record, right. That's what Jim, that's the whole thing. - But right, I know what you're doing. - Yeah, what's the paper? The record. - The record. - The what? - The record. Okay, do you want it? Do I want what? The paper, what is it? The record. And the what? - This goes on for like nine minutes. (laughs) And then the supervisor comes on. And then he plays a complete string. Okay, put the other guy back. - Right. Whenever somebody else comes back on it, and it's always like, no, everything was going fine. I don't know why the guy put you on, put him back on, where he's just about to close the deal. - It's so good. These are so good. - Okay. - Yeah, man. So before we let you go, you have, I think, is it now five CDs out? - Five stand-up CDs, yeah. - Five stand-up CDs. You've done them in different locations. You know, you did one, you did it at a speakeasy. You know, it was a small one. The last time we had John, which was, oh my God, four years ago in the studio, you were doing the one that looked like the Saxon album. - That's the one I did in the speakeasy in Los Angeles, literally an illegal club that, you know, set up like an old, you know, speakeasy, like from the '30s, you know, with the bar and, you know, a stage full sound system and everything, and they put on shows in there. And I said, "God, that's the place I want to do it." 'Cause what a great ending it would be if the cops, like, raided the place and pulled me out of there. - And then, I mean, I just think things come to you because you're hanging out and you said, "No, it would be a great place. "We're a good drink, McSorley's." I need to, and the new ones lie from McSorley's. - That's great. - But, sleep till McSorley's, I play on the motorhead classic live album, No Sleep Till Hammer Smith. And yeah, within an hour of day drinking, you know, I had McSorley's agree to let me do my special there. They've never done anything like that there before. I got Motorhead to give me permission to use the font and the actual artwork from No Sleep Till Hammer Smith. I got Metal Blade 2 agree to put it out. And I got Phil Campbell who agreed to play the guitar intro on here, former Motorhead guitar player. So in an hour of day drinking, like I got all that done, and it was just meant to be. So, you know, don't ever say, you know, can't get anything done day drinking. I got a lot done that day. - And really, really funny stuff. And the best thing about, I mean, there's so many good things about Jameson, but one of the cool things he does is he'll work this stuff out in like these small little places. And like, you know, you really get to see like the process, like, you know, as he's doing it and then how it all kind of comes together and how great it sounds on these CDs. - Oh, dude, well, thanks for all the good words, man. You know how I am, man. I just, you know, especially getting older, dude. You know, I don't wanna, you know, you gotta talk about the crazy shit in the world. We all do, right? But I don't wanna be the old guy to get off my long guy, right? I want it to, I want it to be funny. Like I had these 23-year-olds at the comic strip on Friday night, a whole 10, like 15 of them at a table. I go, they're gonna hate my guts. They left more than anybody in the room. And I was, and in my mind, I'm going, "I'm making fun of you people specifically "for the last 10 minutes." You know, and the one guy came up to me after, he goes, "That was amazing." And he goes, "I know you were making fun "of our generation, we're awful, I get it." You know, he goes, "But me and my friends are cool. "We love shit like this." So, you know, I want people to laugh at this stuff, but I don't wanna preach to him, man. I've seen too many comics. Especially now that everything's fucking political. They're, you know, they're scolding their audiences. Like, "No, come on." You know, you got a guy fucking who have been hanging sheetrock for 40 hours that week. You know, he just wants to, you know, drink whiskey and fucking, you know, listen to music at his house. His wife made him go out to the comedy club. That guy wants to laugh, man. He doesn't wanna be lectured on who we should vote for in the next election. So, that's just what I try to do, man. And, you know, just try to make it funny for everybody. And if people don't like it, you know, fucking, you know, most of the people who are triggered now, they stay home anyway, you know, and fight with people online. - It's true. Anyway, Don, I can't thank you enough for coming on this show, man. We really appreciate your time and doing this. Folks, the CD is called Don Jameson Live from the Solis. You can buy it anywhere, CDs are sold. Can you download it? - Oh yeah, it's, you know, it's on iTunes and then you can get it on vinyl at experiencevinyl.com. So, yeah, I go old school, man. I can't wait to get the vinyl. And McSorley's, the only thing McSorley serves is their ale. McSorley's ale, light and dark. That's all you can order there. So, the two variants of vinyl are McSorley's light ale color and McSorley's dark ale color. So, if you're a vinyl junkie like me, you gotta get both of them. You know, you gotta get both variants. At your shows, you're gonna be selling the type of merch? - Absolutely. - Yeah, you gotta, listen, go see Don Live. He's great. You know, get the CDs, support Don Jameson. Support us. - Yes. - Support us. We got the Sean Morton comedy taping coming up in a month. - Less than a month, August 24th. - Saturday, August 24th at the Dojo and Morris Plains. Jeffrey is opening up the show for me. - Right. - He officially had 15 tickets left until we're sold out. - They'll be sold out. - By the time this airs, it's gonna be sold out. But I am also going to release this on vinyl too, Don, because like yourself, I am a fucking record junkie. I got a thousand vinyl in my living room. And I'm going to spend a tremendous amount of money out of my pocket just to have one copy of my own vinyl. - Exactly right. - That's it. - Lemme says on one of their later live albums, he's like, this song is a big hit for us. I have 10,000 copies in my house. And that's our attitude, right? It's like, you know, as long as we can hold it up and go, look, I made an album. I don't care if I sell one copy of it. You know, I'll spend the money and I'll have a stack in my house. But yeah, to me, there's nothing cool. We'll have to do a whole vinyl show sometime. - Before we go, when I was just about ready to graduate college, okay? I used to listen to records all the time, okay? And when I was listening, I was listening to my headphones on and I would look at the line of notes and read everything. And I started writing down the addresses of like where they came from. I wrote a, I sent a resume in a couple letter to CBS Records on a Wednesday. The following Tuesday, I got a call on my answering machine. I saved it. Woman Martina Washington from Human Resources. Three weeks later, I started working with CBS Records. - Wow. - I mean, that is, that was the, there was so many great things about vinyl. I mean, I love being able to get something within three seconds of wanting to hear it, but there was no better feeling than, I think it was like, it was either Tuesdays or Fridays where they would have the new releases. - Right. - And you would go like to your record store and you would get it. So like, when priests came out with like Turbo Lover, you know, it was the album Turbo or anything that would come out. I mean, you remember how excited you were to like, get in and open up the album, the record? - Yeah, 'cause they didn't start playing. You know, now they start playing, you know, putting out singles like six months ahead of the album. And so you've already heard like five songs off it by the time it came out. Like we didn't know when the records were coming out. And then by the time we heard, you know, it'd still be four months out and you'd be waiting and you're like, you save up your lawn mowing money, you know, 'cause you knew in September, you know, Judas Priest screaming for vengeance was coming out and you waited the whole summer. I can't wait for this album and you'd be so invested in it. And you're right, once we got it, we consumed everything in it. The thank yous, which band members thanked who and which other bands did they thank and all that stuff was, you know, now you would have to-- - You committed it to memory, like baseball cards. - On Instagram, you know, you know, nobody mails letters anymore, but-- - I wanna ask one last question. What do you think of the band category seven? - I've had the album for a while 'cause, you know, obviously they're on Metal Blade as well. And so am I and I know the guys, it sounds amazing. - Right. - I think it's John Bush, the old singer from Armand St. and Anthrax with Phil Demel was the old guitar player from Machinehead. - Yup. - It is a brutal fucking record. - Yup. - It's Bittner on drums from Shadows Falls in Overkill. - Yeah, we had him on the show here. - Well, I'm a guest. - Right, and you're a Staten Island buddy, Mike Orlando on guitar, on the other guitar, who's amazing. So yeah, there's a lot of good music that's been coming out and still to come out. So yeah, this, you know, people, I listen, I'm at an advantage. I get sent a lot of music, which is great. And I listen to all of it, man, 'cause I like all kinds of stuff. But if I like it, I buy it on vinyl. You know, that's what I do. You know, it's like, you could email it to me and I'll listen to it. And if I like it, I'm instantly going out and buying it on vinyl. Again, great way to support the band, especially to get it off their website. You know that money's going directly to them. - Absolutely. Do that every week. I'll go down to some band's website, whether they'll get a T-shirt or just some type of merch just to help support these bands. Don, once again, man, thank you so much for coming on. We really appreciate it. - Yeah, Jeff, thanks for everything. And Sean, good luck with your tape in, man. - Thank you, brother. All right, take care, everybody. We'll catch you next time on "Who's a Band?" 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