"Who's Your Band?" Podcast Episode 152! Comedians Jeffrey Paul and Sean Morton!
On this week's special episode of "Who's Your Band?," we venture outside of our wheelhouse to discuss our favorite crooners!
Who's Your Band?
Episode 152 - All about CROONERS!
(upbeat music) - Welcome everybody to Huja Band. I am Joffee Paul. I'm joined by my co-host, Sean Morton. How are you Sean? - I'm good. It's just me and you tonight. Sometimes I get scared when there's no guests, but I don't. I like it. - I'm scared tonight. I'm scared tonight. This is gonna be a good one. I have a feeling something different, something out of our wheelhouse. - Exactly. And sometimes you need to do that. There were things that like I come across. So the other day, you know, we were recording this on a Monday. So last Thursday, Adam and I went to go see Elvis Costello and Darrel Hall. - I guess my end of like a lost, but continued. - We did ask you early on, you were gonna get back to us. We talked about this on the air. - Yeah, I do that a lot. Yeah, I'm gonna get back to you. I never did. - Yeah, you never do. Let me tell you something though. You really didn't miss anything. Elvis Costello, and this is what pisses me off. So it's supposed to be a co-headlining tour, but Darrel Hall's closing out the shows. Okay, so Elvis Costello comes out and he says, I can, since I'm not closing the show, I can pretty much do whatever anything I wanna do. You know, he says words to that effect. Forget the fact that, and Adam, Adam could back me up on this. How bad was the sound for Elvis Costello? It was horrendous. - You couldn't make it out what he was singing. It was just so overmodulated between the bass and maybe the drums. I mean, just drowned out everything else. I've never heard sound that bad at PNC. - You couldn't even hear the keys at all. - No, you couldn't hear the keys at all. You couldn't make out what? Medley, he was singing, also not to mention. You know, he didn't sound all that great. All that I was excited to see Elvis Costello. So then he winds up playing 14 songs. And I made a list of songs that he did and then songs that he should have done, okay? So he does a song called, and he winds up going deep into the catalog. So he does truth drug, which is a Nick Lowe song. He does man out of time, sneaky feelings, come the mean times, everybody's crying mercy, which is not even his song. It's a Moose Allison song, okay? What he doesn't do, he doesn't do on the side of summer. He doesn't do Veronica. He doesn't do only Flame in Town. He doesn't do accidents will happen. He doesn't do all of his army. I mean, you fucking kidding? - I hate that shit. I mean, Dave Matthews is kind of like that too. Like when you, I had a friend who they met, like him and his wife met at a Dave Matthews concert. And I think there are like 200 shows in, like they're die-hard people. And like you can pull up a set list. I did it the other day because they went there a couple of weeks ago, a couple of days ago to PNC. They do like 22 songs. Now I tend to learn the set list before it shows. You can't do that with Dave Matthews set 'cause they do a different set list every night. - Sometimes that's pretty good. - Five songs I knew out of 23 songs. Like they do super, super deep. And sometimes like, if you're a super huge fan of a band, I get that, but you wanna hear some hits at some point. - Well, that's what Adam and I was saying. Well, like, he plays, he opens up with "Pump It Up" which is fine, but we had a hard time figuring out what the song because the mix was terrible. He does "Washington Detectives" which I didn't think was a great version of it. And then he winds up, you know, in the last two songs he winds up doing are "Allison" and what's so funny about "Peace Love" and understanding. And then in between it was just, I mean, just nonsense. And we're sitting there going, I mean, when's he gonna start playing these hits? And he's not doing any of them, you know? So that kind of annoyed me. And then "Darryl Hall" comes on. Now, he's the headliner. Sean, how many songs should a headline to do? - If you're doing a co-headline show like that. - Go headlining tour. - I would say 15 to 16. - Okay, he does 12. - Yeah, but he plays some jammy longer stuff too though, right? - Well, what he did, he did the Bleeding Gum's Murphy version of all these songs. So he's, so he's doing, he did like every time you go away, which, you know, which it was the song that, you know, which is good, but I mean, drags it out. He does "Kiss On My List", drags it out. I mean, private eyes, drags it out. Just a slow down version. And he just, I mean, he just, you know, I think the tempo of the songs were a little slower too, 'cause he can't sing anymore. Guy is about 78, 79 years old, and he just doesn't have the pipe to the range anymore. - It could be why I structured it out too though. - Yeah, so I mean, you really didn't miss anything. But it got us to thinking like, you know, we should do a show about on crooners. And I think the idea popped in our heads when you and I were on 101.5, and we started talking about crooners. And so we were like, you know, this is what should be the theme of the show. So that's today's show. And we got like listing the best. We're just like listing great, great singers, not singers in a band. Like I would say Bruce Dickinson, Dio, not guys like that. A guy who's a crooner. How would you describe or, you know, for the audience? What would you say a crooner is? - I think it's a lost genre, to be honest. And I kind of, it's hard to, you have to have a big band behind you. I think more of the standard kind of songs. It's definitely a throwback to like a different generation. So like you're really thinking of like, you know, artists from, I would say the '50s through the late '70s really, if you think about that. Yeah, I mean, obviously if you wanna throw one out there, the most popular one without question is Sinatra. - It is Sinatra. - Yeah, by far it's Sinatra. And the thing I love about crooners is something that's kind of lost these days. It's styling class, if that makes sense. - No, I know exactly what you mean. And I think that's not only with singing, I think it's in society as well. I mean, have you taken a plane recently? - Yeah, a few months ago. And it's, people go on there with dirty crocs and swedjamas. - People used to get dressed up. - That's right. - They would get dressed up to go on a plane roll. And then you, well, back on those days, you could smoke on a plane too, but that's another story in itself. But yeah, it's a lost art. Like it's, you know, they would get dressed up in suits. And, you know, the whole dynamic was different though. It was about having a cocktail on stage. And, you know, people are smoking in the audiences. But it was a simpler time too. So that's one of the things I love about it. It was a much simpler time. The songs were good. Like they were just, they were sweet. There was nothing angry about them. There was nothing like, there was no maliciousness, no hatred, no anger, no venom. They're like love songs. They're more upbeat. You know, it's definitely like a genre that I think is kind of slow, not, well, not slowly, but it's kind of dissipating a little bit. And it's kind of disappearing. And you'll get some people who will, like the old school Italians, obviously try and keep that alive. You know, they're a big proponent of this whole kind of musical genre. But it's a lost art, you know, 'cause you look at all the rappers with like, they're all little, they're all little, you know what I mean? - Little, little, little, little, little. - Little, little, little. - Geezy, little, little wang, little wang. - Little, little, little, little wang. - Little wang, right. - You know, people aren't gonna, little John, little John. People aren't gonna remember that 40 years from now, but there might be some people who still hear about Sinatra or Dean Moore. - Sinatra is timeless. - Yeah, exactly. I mean, he's never gonna go away. And, you know, it was a different time, too. I mean, he was extremely connected. You know, extremely connected. - I'm just thinking about him musically. I mean, I know he was influenced by Bing Crosby, you know, who is an ultimate crooner, I guess. But, you know, when he was young, his parents used to own a tavern in New Jersey. And, yeah, and he used to sing for extra money. Yeah, and then he winds up becoming a singer. You know, you talked about having a big band behind you. He sang with the Tommy Dorsey band. And, you know, he goes on to have some of the most iconic hits. I mean, I don't care who you are, who doesn't know my way, or that's life, or the summer wind, or fly me to the moon. There's a movie, you know, using that title that's out right now, Strangers in the Night. Go to a Yankee game. How does a Yankee game end? New York, New York. So, I mean, you just talk about someone who's just so off the charts iconic. I think the other thing with Sinatra is the way he sings. I mean, he's just not saying words. He's telling a story. - Right. - And I think the song that really exemplifies that is a song like Night and Day. And Night and Day is based on a painting. And it just tells the difference between Night and Day, but Night and Day not just as a period of time of like what's going on in life. Night and Day, Night and Day could be the same as being young and old, you know, good and bad. You know, and he tells that story. And so, he's, you know, he's the number one crooner. I think you would have a hard time arguing that. - Yeah. And think about the timeframe too, though, in that when the rap pack was out, like that's a classic, classic time period. That old school Vegas rap pack. - Very short amount of time too. - Yeah, very true, very, but local came out of it. You had him, you had Dean Martin, which I guess you can also fall into that category as well. Right? - Well, Dean Martin, I have on my list of croons as well. - Yeah, I mean, he was a raging alcoholic, but, you know, God bless him. God bless him. - But think about the reason why you had the rap pack and why that period of time was able to exist. It's after Elvis, okay? The whole Elvis thing has gone. It's before the Beatles make it really big, okay? And now what you have is you needed someone to kind of like fill the gap. And you wind up having Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., Joey Bishop, Peter Lofford, okay? And like they become a, you know, called the rap pack, you know, hanging out in Vegas, you know, being connected, drinking, smoking, hooking up with every woman that walks. I mean, and being in movies, you know, they had it all, but again, it's all in the shit. People think it's like the whole '60s. It's maybe just a couple of years. - That is true. - 'Cause till the Beatles become big. - About eight or nine years, I would say. Not even, it's not even the. - Well, the payday of it was in the early '60s. - It's in the early '60s because after Elvis has gone to the army, the Beatles haven't broken yet. And it's always like 1960s, '61, '62. And then, you know, when the Beatles start to hit their stride, then the rap pack winds up, you know, they become more like movie stars and they become more like for your parents and like the younger generation winds up going towards the Beatles and the Stones. And then you're wind up moving into like, you know, bands like The Kinks and, you know, and like I hope, you know, the whole '60s psychedelic sound. But, you know, be Martin, in my opinion. Also, not just, you know what his nickname was? - No. - He was the king of cool. He was an actor. He was a singer. You know, everyone thinks ago he was from Italy. His parents were from Italy. He was from Ohio. And he was growing up a boxer with that, went by the name of Kid Crochette. And he broke his nose in fighting. - Huh, interesting. - Yeah, so he winds up, you know, getting a fix. And, you know, he's a good looking guy. He's very, very talented, hooks up with Jerry Lewis. And they wind up, you know, becoming a great, great comedy team, you know, Lewis and Martin. But when he winds up recording, listen to the songs that he recorded. When you talk about standards, that's Amore. The Christmas classic, Let It Snow. Mambo Italiano, Volare. I think he does the best version of Sway. Ain't that a kick in the head? I mean, he's a great... - I love it. That's a great... - They're great. I mean, like, you could listen. A guy like you could listen to like the Lamb of God. Okay. And then enjoy like a demon song. - Oh yeah, absolutely. I'm very diverse like that. But I got to remember too, I was born and raised in an Italian household where, you know, I didn't really hear it, but like from my aunts and uncles, that would be a big thing for them. Like my mom wasn't into that kind of stuff, you know, but, you know, going over to my, you know, older aunts and uncles houses, that kind of stuff was always, you know, being played. Always. - It was good stuff. But there, I think are some younger guys that do carry the torch. I don't know how young they are. I mean, I don't know if they're not in their 20th, but I think I'm going to call them contemporaries. And a guy who comes to mind is a guy like Michael Buble. - Oh, of course. - You know, I would consider him a crooner, a guy from, he's from Canada. Family from Italy, however. So he, I find some similarities with him and demon. Also, he didn't originally want it to be a singer. He wanted to be a hockey player. You know, it makes sense for him from Canada. His favorite team growing up was the Vancouver Canucks. And he just, you know, to his own admission, just said he was a terrible hockey player. This wasn't very good. But just like demon, he winds up having a big hit with sway. Then he comes up with lots of Christmas songs and songs like "Feeling Good." But like, I think my favorite song, my wife loves Michael Buble, by the way, is "Just Haven't Met You Yet." Great video. Yeah. - He's not quite being pregnant or anything, right? Is that, no, I don't think, I think his wife's pregnant during the song, but he just haven't met you yet. I thought it was just about him. And which would make sense, you know, what you just said. But I thought the song was about trying to fall in love, but he just haven't met the right girl yet. - Okay. - But, you know, I like Michael Buble. Why do you, you're a fan? - Yeah, he's good. Like my cousin's a huge Michael Buble fan. Like she's seen him like six, seven times. But again, she's comes from, again, same family. So, but her side of the family was definitely more connected. Like they were all very, like, you know what I mean? Very, very quick and nose over there. So that was a lot more prevalent in their household than it was in mine. So yeah, she's a huge Buble fan. I think she's seen him like five or six times in concert. You know, one of those like stalker-ish kind of fans of his. But I think my part, we didn't bring up though, is somebody very prevalent who didn't really run in a pack. Like the rap pack is Tony Bennett. - Well, it's funny that you bring him up and he has the reason why because Tony Bennett, you know, he winds up duetting with Lady Gaga, right? - Yeah, I thought it was brilliant. - Lady Gaga, right? He's in his 90s when he's doing this. Lady 80s, 90s, and the guy can still sing. - Oh yeah. - I mean, I was never a big fan, but I was always amazed that he still had that voice at such a late age in his life. - You know, it was cool. One of the, one of my favorite moments, I had a friend of mine who used to work at Carnegie Hall. And, you know, you don't like to ask your friends for tickets or stuff like that. But I saw that Tony Bennett was gonna be there and Katie Lang opened up. And she was able to get me and my mom and this has got it over 25 years ago. And I got to sit in one of those orchestra boxes on the side of the stage. - Oh yeah, those are nice. - For free and see Katie Lang with Tony Bennett. That was like a kind of way before the whole Gaga and Bennett collaboration. Katie Lang had a big collaboration with him too. - What was the song? - I don't know. They did like a VH1 storytellers kind of thing where they did the- - I did think he did something before Lady Gaga. - Oh yeah, he did MTV Unplugged, right, right. So that was very, very different. But yeah, he's another guy, man. You always knew him. He was just always there. He always seemed like he was 85 years old, even 30 years ago. You know, he recently passed away again, maybe a year or two ago. - Yeah, and like, like everyone else we spoke about, Michael Booblei, Tony Bennett, always presented themselves like gentlemen. - Correct. And that's the thing I love about that whole genre is that it's timeless. It's time, you're not gonna see a guy, you're not gonna see a schlub walk in with a pucking pair of ripped jeans or cargo shorts we're in a friggin Indians hat. - Right, he's not coming out wearing a hoodie. - Yeah, exactly, yeah. He's like not pouring fucking Cristal out for his homies on the stage. You know what I mean? He's got the Scotch in his hand for himself. You know, maybe a cigar on top of all of it. You know, it's a throwback to a great period that will never happen, will never happen again. - You know, these things are cyclical. Yeah, I hope that maybe one day it will be. I was thinking about some other guys who do, you may not like immediately that Cruna doesn't come to mind but I think certain songs do. And I think a guy like Van Morrison is, could be considered a cruna. You know, hits like Brown Eyed Girl. I think one of the most romantic songs "Into the Mystic" just has such a beautiful song. Definitely a cruna song. Moon dance, have I told you lately, that and his version was mine in Terry's wedding song. Then a little light of hearted stuff like Bright Side of the Road. But he was a cruna from Ireland. And the thing with him was he, I think he evolved into a cruna but he started out in a band and the band was called Them. And do you remember what his hit song was before? People think it's a solo Van Morrison song. It is not. - No, I don't know. - And the song, it was Gloria. - Oh, Jill Warrey. - Yeah. - Who we did that, by the way? Or was it always him? - It was always him. - Oh, I didn't know that. Okay. - And then Laura Brannigan had a hit with the song called Gloria but it was not the same song. - Right, totally, totally different. - Yeah. But no one else really, we did that. We had like a major hit with it. But he played a guitar, sax, keyboard. Adam, did anybody else do Gloria, you know, the Van Morrison song? - Yeah, that's what I'm looking up right now. - Or they can't hit with it, at least. That's what we try to kind of figure out here. - And now I was thinking of some different people that you can have a fight that they have a little bit of crunarish qualities to them as well. Michael Bolton. - Michael Bolton, you know, yes. You know, when he does like his ballads but you know, Michael Bolton was, he was like a rocker. I mean, guys like real good players wanted him in that rock band. He hits a song called Gina which was a real hard rocker in the 80s. I think he has a fantastic voice. I think he gets a lot of shit for no reason. - I was a huge fan of his growing up. I mean, I had all his CDs. I thought he was always a really brilliant songwriter too. He wrote tons of stuff for other people. I mean, he wrote one of my favorite songs ever 'cause I found someone by Cher and he wrote that and did an amazing version of it too. - But we had a guest on. I don't know if it was Billie Sheen or so but someone was telling us that, you know, they had, they had with maybe Bruce Bruce Julik or somebody but they were with Michael Bolton. You know, he doesn't get the respect for being as versatile as he is. - Yeah, I agree with that. Gina was Billie Sheen 'cause I think he did the studio work for him too. - Maybe. Another guy who I think is kind of a classic, classic Kruna is Bobby Darren. You know, I mean, listen, dream lover, beyond the sea, back the knife. Come on, man. That's the ultimate Kruna song. Yeah, Adam would say Patty Smith, David Gloria, but I mean, her version was never, never even charted kind of like like Van Morrison. Yeah, but Bobby Darren, you know, this was a guy also, you know, he just had that classic styles, classic, he was married to Sandra Dee, he wanted to put in a golden globe for his acting. The thing with Bobby Darren, he was destined to die early. He dies at age 37 'cause when he was young, he had suffered a high fever's which weakened his heart. - I know. - Yeah, and he wound up having like a heart surgery at very young age and he wound up dying at the age of 37. - What about Pericomo? - Pericomo is definitely a Kruna. He's boring. - Yeah. - He could be the most relaxing I've ever heard, you know? I mean, he is human ambient, but he is absolutely considered a Kruna. But I'm kind of picking like guys who I like, who I would still listen to their songs. I think another guy, and we talked about this a couple of weeks ago was Tom Jones. - Yeah. - Yeah, I don't know why that's two. - I mean, who's just, you know, from Wales and has that baritone and my God, man. He, you know, he sang things like "The Liler" and "Watch New Pussycat," which was a Birkbackerach song who was one of my favorite all-time songwriters. His version of "You Don't Have to Say, I Love You" is amazing. She's a lady, daughter of darkness. And then he winds up covering contemporary songs from the '90s, things like "Burning Down the House" and "Kiss" by Prince. And he fucking nails this. - Yeah, he really did. He kind of re-embedded himself in the '90s too, he kept himself, he attracted the generation of the girls whose mothers were into him in the '70s. - Yeah, he's '84, 85. Now, and the guy, he's on tour as we're talking and can still sing. - We're about Nat King Cole. - Nat King Cole is absolutely a crooner. Again, you talk about someone who comes across as very, very classy, relaxed. You know, you could see yourself, you know, having like an after dinner drink, putting on a little Nat King Cole. Of course, the Christmas song, you know, during Christmas is one of my son's favorite. Yeah, I mean, he's great. You're a bit disjoint. If we're gonna go black croon is, okay? - You understand? - I think I'm gonna top ya. - Good. - Okay, I'm gonna go black and gay. - Black and gay. - Yeah. - Barack Obama? - Close, Luther Vanderus. - I didn't know he was gay. - I'm assuming he is. - Hi, why would you say that? - It kinda has a gay look. - That's, first of all, that's a very bad assumption to make of somebody who's dead when we can't ask. - I think, I think it was kind of speculating he was gay. - Hey, Siri, was Luther Vanderus gay? - I'm saying if Luther Vanderus is gay, I'm pretty sure he was gay. - Didn't pop up. - Yeah, I think the thing is, he was such a romantic guy. - All right, we wanna hear something great about Luther Vanderus, which I had no idea. - I think I know this already. - This is the greatest thing I've ever heard. Do you know what his middle of name is? Ron Zoni. - Luther of Ron Zoni Vanderus? - The Landros Jr., like the really shitty pasta. That made my day. We can stop the show right now. I'm completely content. - I think we need to find out if he's gay. - So apparently gay? - Yup, it says in 2017, 12 years after his death, Vandross' friend Patti Lebel confirmed that he was gay. - Yep, I remember it was always kind of speculating. You couldn't come out and say he was gay, like Jim Knabes was gay. He was around in the '70s. I mean, I don't know if you guys knew this, but he sang background on my favorite Bowie song, "Young Americans." - Yeah, he had a huge, huge, huge career as a backup singer before. - That's right, that's right. But when he does break out, he has the power of love, love power, stop to love here and now. And he has a big hit with your girl, Mariah Carey, when they did "Endless Love." - He'd sang backup for Roberta Flack, Donnie Hathaway, Todd Rungren, Judy Collins, Shaka Khan, Bette Midler, Diana Ross, Bowie, Benny King, Stevie Wonder, and Donna Summer. - That's pretty impressive. - That's ridiculous when you think about that. - He could be the biggest crooner of all time, if you really think about it, besides Sinatra. - Great, great crooner. Again, a guy who came across as, you know, always dressed meticulously, you know, came across as a classy guy, could sing, you know, you know, just super, super talented. Yeah, he's a crooner. - He's a little haglacious. - Julio unglacious is a Latin lover crooner. - Yeah, he is. - He has a category. - To all the girls I loved before. - He's not gay 'cause he's got a son. - No, he was far from gay. Julio unglacious, I think he was fucking everybody. - Yeah, he was huge in the 80s, man. - Huge in the 80s. - He was a panic dropper. - He was definitely a panic dropper. - Yeah, he didn't know who he was, and then this guy just seemed to come out of nowhere, and just like, was all over the charts. He had songs of Spanish, and people just like loved me. He just had that very soothing, like, rick or ricotta, very, very, you know, Latin lover type of voice. - Don't ever do that again. - Very, very lover. - But Johnny Vethis. - Johnny Vethis is a crooner. - Yeah, big time. I would have those big ass classes that he had. But that's the other thing that's gone from like this time. Big ass glasses. You know, like the big oversized Elvis ones? I'd rock the shit out of that one. - Yeah, big ass glasses. - Yes, he did. Johnny Vethis. - Johnny Vethis did not have Elvis glasses. - Oh, look at that. I got him, Pincharoma Capita, and he's got a big ass glasses. - No, but he wasn't, no, he had that, like, funny voice. ♪ I got the chances of heart and awareness in the green ♪ - Right, that's a dead on Johnny Vethis, by the way. - I'm really trying not to curse you out. I want you to understand that. Really trying, I'm trying to keep this very light and friendly tonight, but you're really pushing the limits of our friendship. - Yeah, I want to see how far I can get away with some of this shit. - Trust me, again, again much further. - I don't know how many more people we have on all this, I can do impressions of. - Thank God. (both laugh) - New answers, I think, as a crooner. - Oh. - And also a great songwriter, was Paul Anker. - Okay, I can see that. - You know, times of your life, Diana, you are my destiny. And he wrote the theme of the Tonight Show. - I did not know that. - He did, and he wrote, of course, she's a lady for the aforementioned Tom Jones. And, of course, you know, the story about how he wrote "My Way," right, for Sinatra? - Absolutely, I know that. - That's right, for those of you who don't remember, Sinatra was retiring from the business. And he tells us, and the people he knew, and he was very friendly with Paul Anker, and they're performing in Florida. And that's when he told them. They're performing together in Florida. He says, "After your show, come and meet me "at this restaurant." He's there with Mia Farrow in the back. And he says, "Look, I'm going to be retiring from music." He goes, "Can you do me a favor? "Can you write me a song? "I wanted to just go out on a high note. "I want to put out an album." - I'll tell you one person that I got, I was very lucky to see, and this is kind of-- - The story wasn't over. - Oh, continue, I'm sorry. I used to tell you a few weeks. - Yeah. - So you start stuttering and mumbling and-- - Right. So anyway, he goes back about a month or so later, okay? He gives Sinatra a song. Sinatra calls him a few weeks later and says, "Listen to this." And it becomes my way. And he asks, "Anka, how much do you want for it?" And Paul Anka says, "Nothing, this is my gift to you." - Dumb. - Well, that's what he did. 'Cause Paul Anka is that type of guy. - I just read a story to you the other day about Kerry King from Slayer, how when they were recording, I think it was "Rain in Blood," when Beastie Boys were in the studio the next that I'm doing, licensed to "ill." And Rick Rubin was producing "Bold of Them" and Rick said, "I need some guitar tracks for two songs." And Kerry King just came in and he goes, "Yeah, I'll lay them down the big deal." And they paid him. - Oh, I know. - He paid a flat rate. He was like, "Well, look, we have made no money at the time." That was a couple hundred bucks can take care of like the rent and stuff like that. Had he taken a quarter point off a five feet right to party, he would have been a multi, multi-millionaire just from that songwriting credit along. - Did he play the lead in five feet right to party or no sleep till Brooklyn? - Both. - On both, okay. It could sound like him, right? - Yeah, that's him. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - How much did Eddie Van Halen make off of the beating video? That's right. How long did it take him to do it? - I think he did it in one take, didn't he? - One take. - Crazy, isn't it? - One take, yeah. - I think he's gonna wind up going down as the greatest guitar player who ever lived when you really think about it. - He's up there, him, Paige, you know, Hendrix. - Right there. Like now, you're getting back to my story since I interrupted you. I have a thing now that I'm trying to do is I'm trying to see artists perform that I've never seen before, that I know are getting up in their years and you wanna try and catch them before it's too late. So I guess it was about over 20 years ago, I went to see Willie Nelson's 70th birthday party at the Beacon Theatre, which, you know, they just did the 90th? - 70th, yeah. - The young man at the time. - The young man, it was a huge, huge event. I mean, the ZZ Top, Chris Kristofferson, Cheryl Crow, Bill Clinton was there. I mean, just tons and tons of people, but the person that I got to see, which a lot of people can't say they saw live, was Ray Charles. - I never saw him. - So that was a really, really cool moment for me to see Ray Charles. - What do you do, you're always on my mind? - George on my mind. - A George on my mind. - Yeah, did George on my mind, didn't have a story. - Do Willie Nelson write that song? Like, why would he do that song? - 'Cause it was a hit for both of them. - Well, they both, okay, that makes sense, yeah. - Siri, who wrote George on my mind? - See, this is the mind and technology, folks. - Did not write that in 2014, you fucking dumbass. - Yeah, this is, I hate fucking Siri. - Siri, she's a cunt. - She really always gonna be polite, but. - I'm not being polite, I'm not pulling punches. - Ray Charles actually wrote it, yeah. - Okay. - Hey, speaking of gay, another guy who actually, - No, I'm wrong, it was Hohi Carmichael and Stuart Garell wrote it in 1930. - Really? - 1930, it was the first year, Hohi Carmichael. - That way, that way, an old guy from the freakin' Chicago White Sox, the Black Sox, doesn't it? - Yeah, but now we knew Hohi Carmichael because the Flintstones had a character based on him called Stony Carmichael. - I never heard. - And he was a jingle rider. - I never heard of that. - You never watched the Flintstones? - Back, you know, a little bit when I was a kid, I don't know if you get it, forget about it, I used to watch it all the time. But yeah, go back to gay. Barry Manolo could be considered a Karuna. - That was a question I was gonna ask you if you feel, 'cause I know you're a fan of Lo. - I am. You're a source. - I just saw him in April. - And you like to, you know, you know, it's some of the things that Barry Manolo does in his extracurricular act of time. - Right, which, you know, go out to dinner, you know, dance with girls. - Mm, no, I was thinking that. I was thinking more after the show kind of rhymes the last part of his name with Lo added B to it, you know. - Oh, I love getting BJs. - I've heard you're very good, Jeff. - No, I like getting them. - Oh, I think he's so fucking dumb. You would. - Oh my goodness, them. - Really, Jeff, do you? - Yes, I do. Yeah, 'cause-- - You're really thinking about-- - I wasn't gonna give him to your nanta. - Yeah, sure, I go around, I'm blowing guys at backstage. I'm like, "Hey, let me into the Barry Manolo, "I'll suck you dick." - Well, I don't think you would ever really do that. I mean, I think you would turn a blind eye and give a tug, but I don't think you would ever go full, full blow. Let me ask you something, who's your favorite artist? - Of all time? I don't have a favorite. - Drop dead now, like who do you love? - Who do I love, Springsteen? - Okay, Springsteen. You're gonna get to go, you're going out to dinner with Springsteen. - Yeah. - Okay? You're gonna drive around with them, okay? But what you gotta do is, you gotta touch it. Are you touching it? - Just touch it? - Just touch it, maybe get a little pat. - Yeah, yeah, nothing gay about that, by the way. - No, I don't think so. I don't think it's any gay right now. - Adam. - Yep. - Okay, if you have-- - Shakey leg, if Shakey leg comes into town. - If wet leg. - For wet leg? - Yeah, wet leg, okay? Now, there are 14 people ahead of you online for wet leg, okay? But you gotta get those wet leg tickets, okay? We do kind of this like, just kind of like nug on it, just a little bit. Who, Elvis Costello? - No. - Really? - Yeah. - But you get very scary, 'cause it's gonna be a jerk Jeff Wall for a free ticket to Elvis Costello last week. (laughing) - But really, you wouldn't touch Elvis Costello, but you're going to see wet leg. - Yeah, I don't get that in the least, but. - Who is yours Jeff? - Aussie. - Yeah, maybe Aussie. - Yeah, I think-- - I would look Aussie, Bruce Dickinson. I mean, these are guys, I've met a lot of people, but these are guys that have never come close to meeting. - Yeah, I would probably, I would probably fangirl a little bit if I met Springsteen, I'm not gonna lie. I only did it once. I only fangirled once. - See, Springsteen, I met several times. So, a little bit different. I mean, I think there are different people like in history. I would love to be able to spend time and talk with a guy who was president. Let me ask you guys this, if you could spend 24 hours being invisible, where would you go? Where would you go? What would you do? - Where would I go? - And if either one of you two fucking perves are like, "I'll go to the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders locker room." (laughing) Adam's like, "Fuck." That was my double wish. - I was going to Mariah's back, again, you all right? - It took you a little schwangy. (laughing) - Schwangy. - Schwangy. - That's a tough question though. And there's so many things. - 24 hours to be invisible. Where you going? Where you going? What are you doing? - Oh. - Oh, Rob a bank. - No, I wouldn't, Rob a bank, 'cause you're invisible with the money that you spend. - No, exactly. You're gonna see a fucking floating cash walking away. They're gonna catch you at some point. - No, but you think as you'd be able to get into places, nobody would know. - I don't know, man. That's a hard question. That is a hard question. I don't know. - What would you do, Adam? Give it a minute to think about it. - Yeah, I gotta think about it also. - Because what I would do, I would probably like drive down to Washington and try to see what goes on behind the doors, behind the scenes in like the White House or in the Capitol, what they're really saying, what they're really thinking. - That's an interesting thing. Like if you wanna go into like the, what's the room that you call it? Is it your own room? - Yeah, I'd say like the Oval Office. - Yeah, I would see that. That's something like, yeah, it would have to be something that you don't have any access to. - Right, and you wouldn't be detected. - Yeah, for you, it would be like a sold out comedy club. Like you can actually... - Yeah. - Sometimes a joke for just for me, Jeff. - Yeah, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. - That was a good question though. - Yeah, I would say the essential information room is a good answer to that. - Adam, you're still thinking about it? - Yep, still thinking about it. - I had to fucking pop a blood vessel there. - I'd wanna see what Frank Black does behind the scenes. Who's that Frank Black or Frank Turner? Who's this guy who you're obsessed with Adam? - Oh, Frank Turner? Frank Black. - Fixies, right. - That's right. - Frank Black's the... - You love this Frank Turner. - I was expecting something dumb like, I would go into Baskin Robbins 'cause there's 37 flavors. I wanna see if they gotta wipe down the machines when they make a different flavor. Is it all vanilla-based? How do they do it? They have 37 machines all at the same time. - That's things that I think. - I don't think Adam would do that, but it would be something like weird like that. You know, maybe what I would do is I would go see if I could see where Burke Convey grew up and 'cause, you know, he was my favorite talk show host. - He died at the brain cancer. - He did. He was a big star. Remember Burke Convey? - Well, that's the whole eight, that eighties, in the late '70s and '80s had that whole genre of people that were famous and you had no idea what the fuck they were famous for. - Gene Rayburn? Charles Nelson Riley? - I, he, character, okay, how about J.P. Morgan, remember, huh? - That's a fucking bank, you dumbass. - No, but there was also an actress named J.P. Morgan. Look up the odd couple. She was a singer. - J.P. Morgan. - In fact, she's on the episode in the odd couple when Fields wrote "Happy and Pappy and Bursing with Love." - And she's an actress? - Yes, and, but she also-- - J.P. Y.E., oh, I know she is. - Yeah, Mepa. And then the one who was actually married, I think, to Jack Klugman. I think she was married to her in real life. Brett Summers? - J.P. Morgan's still alive, by the way, '90s. - Oh, she's not. - 92 years old. - Are you kidding? - Yep, '92, December 3rd, 1931, still alive. - Wow, that I did not know. - Yep, see, once in a while, man. Yeah, do you remember Brett Summers? - I do, she had the big monster glasses on Hollywood Squares. - Yeah, that's Hollywood Squares. It was, the one with the six people on it, Gene Rayburn, I think, was the host. It wasn't "Wats My Line." What was it called? No, it was the name of that tune. Adam, once let's look up why Brett Summers was on. She was a perpetual guest on this show. - That's it, match game. - Match game, that's it, match game. Yeah, that was a great show. - Are you great? - Yeah. - I mean, I watch them reruns, because, you know. - But, yeah, but there were a lot of these guys and I guess there were actors, actresses, you know, like Joanne Whirly, like, what, besides like that, besides laughing, why else do you remember her in? - I don't, again, I don't, these are people that I never really saw that had become fucking game shows that were on reruns, 15 years, when I was watching, when I was watching them as a kid. - I mean, I don't remember how Nick Cannon became famous, or do you remember who, Ray J, remember Ray J? - Oh, yeah. - That was Prince Taper, Tim Kardashian. - Yeah, but, supposedly he was a rapper. Do you remember his hits? - No, he was also Brandi's brother. - Remember that? - That's his whole big thing. - Sorry. - That's like the fucking F-Liff celebrity. - Yeah, but now he's got a whole, he's got a, what do you call it? An earbud line that are very, very popular. I forgot the name of it though, but he has his own, like, you know, headphones and stuff, kind of like a Dr. Dre kind of thing with beats. That's where he made all his money from. - Yeah, but we were just trying to think about these guys who wind up becoming famous, and like, you know, how did it get so famous? Like, you can't name what they've done. - They only had like one or two hits. - They weren't in the Irishman. - No, no, I'm gonna step away, I need one more vehicle. I need one more thing. - You know, he is doing a new movie, by the way. Martin Scorsese, you know, you probably have money to speed dial, but I don't know if you heard this or not, he's doing a movie for Apple TV about the Grateful Dead, and he just signed the actor to play Jerry Garcia, any idea who he would pick. Adam, don't say it works, I know you already know this. - I know. - The guy from Shameless, who's in the bear. - No, but that's a good pick, but kind of in the same age, kind of in the same age. When you hear it, it's gonna make complete sense. - Jack Black. - Close. - Yeah, you're warm, pretty close. - Seth Rogan? - Almost there, Jonah. - Jonah Hill, okay, there we go. - I know, I think we almost did six degrees of Jerry Garcia. - Yeah, we just did Stump the Chump. - Yeah, okay, I could see that. - I did great. - Great actor. - Yeah, you know, I have a love-hate thing with him. Some things I like with him, some things I don't. I mean, Wolf of Wall Street to me is one of the greatest movies of our generation by far. You know, he was great and super bad, but then it was a lot of like little nitchy shit that I'm, I'm not a fan of like that whole buddy comedy kind of shit with Seth Rogan and Will Ferrell and Ben Stiller on that garbage shit. Not a fan of that stuff, but I could definitely see him. - You mean the funny stuff? - The successful stuff. - Like he was actually funny in, did you ever see funny people with Adam Sandler? - That was a great movie. I love that. - It's a great three quarters of a movie. - True. - Okay. - Not talking about us. - Mm-hmm. - Kind of like good colors, good colors. - We felt it was great from the beginning to end. - No, once the cocaine comes in, it's done. - Wrong. - No. - You'll never go to it. - It's my favorite movie. - It's my favorite movie too. But the first 80% of it is phenomenal. When you get the whole helicopter is in shit now, that's where it goes downhill. Full metal jacket, the first half of full metal jacket. - Great half of a movie. - Greatest fucking half of a movie ever. After that, it's horrible. - Stripes another great half of a movie. - Oh, yeah, Stripes with the Jell-O wrestling scene. The pudding wrestling. - It was Jell-O wrestling, I think you're right. - Yeah, that was a hot, that was hot when you were a kid. Six, seven years old and you put it on HBO. - Yes. - And you see that shit? - Your VHS and you're stopping the tape. - Do you remember, and you probably remember this, I remember having HBO as a kid and I think it was like really, really big. Do you remember these two do Brolesque on HBO? - I did, but I've never, I think Brolesque was sexy. - Yeah, but again, you were a little bit older than me, so you were probably seeing the real thing at that point. I'm five, six years old, I don't see in half a tit, I was fucking seen in, I was fucking, I don't believe, never felt before, you know? - If you're growing up, or a big sexy show was love American style. And then on channel nine, you had Benny Hill and Benny Hill had some sexy stuff. - Oh my God, Benny Hill was amazing. I love Benny Hill, in fact, when my boss calls me from work had the Benny Hill theme song plays. - That's great music, isn't it? - I love it. - And that still kind of holds up if you ever go back and watch some of those things. They're still pretty funny. - Oh my God, they're so much fun to watch. - Good stuff. Anyway, man, that is our episode on cruners. Somehow it evolved into like old, that's the age of what cruners were. Was like the '60s and '70s. By the '80s, things had kind of changed. Like you said, you started to have cable TV. You know, MTV started to come out. Cable TV became more prevalent. You know, in the '60s and '70s, it was a lot of it was like, what you read, I guess what you read in the tablet. I mean, I was still very, very young, in '60s, I don't even remember it. And it was still like the lore of all these guys of the Sinatra's and Dean Martin's. And, you know, just Sammy Davis, Jr. was another one of those guys who ran with them and Elvis Presley. Yeah, it was. - The lost variation. - Yeah, it's like if I can go back into a time period, I probably would go like somewhere either in the late '50s or early '60s. And if it was '60s, I would definitely go to Vegas. - Oh yeah, I would even do that. I would do like the '60s Vegas era with the Radpack or I go 1987 Sunset Strip. I kick Izzy Straggland out of Guns N' Roses. I am the new rhythm guitar player in Guns N' Roses. And I don't live past 1989. - That would be a great time period to go to, to go to the Sunset Strip in that time period, you know, instead of, I think there were a couple, nothing was bigger than the Sunset Strip for that. But you did have the New York, New Jersey long island, like circuit, you know, band circuit. - But it was a great time period. - And you had, it was still a great time period. Like you would go to a place like the Fountain Casino in Aberdeen, New Jersey. And you would see a band like Twisted Sister on a Friday or a Saturday night and there'd be over 2,000 people there. And it was just insane. You had bands like White Tiger, Twisted Sister, Zebra, you know, these, these great, great band Phantoms Opera, which, you know, Bon Jovi kind of like came at him. And then later on, you know, Skid Row used to play the circuit. - Look at all great documentary at Bitts on Amazon, Prunkel, Sunset Strip. It gives you the whole history of the strip from like the 60s going up through the whole 80s here metal thing. It is, I've seen it. - I just finished the book, ain't nothing but a good time. - Okay. - And it chronicles that time period. But it also goes back and forth between, you know, a lot of it takes place on Sunset Strip, but also what was happening here in New York. Because you can't dismiss, you know, what a band like Twisted Sister did. Twisted Sister would sell out the Palladium and they didn't have a record label. - I think the thing about what them was, was the over-to-top makeup that people just didn't take them seriously, they were a solid, solid band. They worked hard. I mean, why did people take Motley crew seriously? You know, the difference was one band was from California, the other band was from New York. And in California, they were signing bands. Like they're signing everyone like crazy. They were signing Motley crew. They were signing Warren. They were signing Pretty Boy Floyd. They were signing like all these bands. - Yeah. - And they were all the same. - They were all. - As the pussy cat. - Ah, good band. They changed their style though. And if you didn't know, the last couple of years, they'd went to more of like an industrial kind of sound to kind of stay relevant. - They do try to stay relevant. A lot of those bands just like fell apart. But the thing is, the players in the bands were great. When you look at a band like Dachin, and I mean, see what Dachin had, not only Don Dachin, but had George Lynch and Jeff Filson, who's now like a permanent member of Farina. - Yeah. - No, they were great, a band still around today. Tesla. - The metal band, they're not a metal band, but they were thrown into that category. - So with Cinderella and so, you know, there's a lot of bands like that. They got thrown into that genre just because of the hair and because they had to do, look at, look at Welcome to the Jungle. Look at Axel's hair and Welcome to the Jungle. - Right. - Can you do that again? - No. - It's the only video that, right. Very misleading. - Goddamn, you know, they were lumped into the hair metal thing too, and they were clearly not a hair metal band in the least bit. - No, they, they changed metal, and that's why I think they, they were able to stick around while bands like Poison and Rat and all those, you know, those, you know, those bands just kind of like died off real quickly. Slaughter tricks the... - Slaughter is actually playing on tour this year, and they are playing, I'm doing a show in Long Island at the end of September, in Patchogue, Long Island. And I'm like, all right, that's cool. And then I see an ad pop up on Facebook that Slaughter's playing in Patchogue. I'm like, oh, that's weird, that's a coincidence, right? I'm like, oh, it's the same night as my show. I'm like, wow, let me see where this place is. It's fucking next door to the place that I'm doing my show at. - We do. Where are they playing? - They're playing here at Starland, but the night before they're playing a place in Patchogue. So assume... - What is it called? - Oh, fucking no, Jeff. Because there's a place called... Oh, man, it's like this little place in Long Island that has really good accent. It's not that far from, I think, what's that club? Not governors, but it's not from the bay. - It's not from the bay? - Yeah. It's also owned by governors. - The brokerage? - Yes. - No more, yeah. - Yeah, it's not that far from the brokerage. - No, it's not that far from there at all, but I forgot to have a look it up, but yeah, so my plan is I'm going to do my set and walk next door and pay the $20 to see Sloor. I'm sure they'll be on right around the time that I'm done 'cause I'm headlining the show as I usually do, Jeff. And so when I'm done, I'll just go next door and catch out a little Sloor. - Sloor is okay. - Not bad, they're not bad. - Who did they, they used to back up who? - Mm, that I don't know. - They came out of somebody. I know Winger came out of Alice Cooper. - Yes. - Right, but Sloor, I think, oh, I knew they came from. Sloor came from Vinny Vincent. - You think so? - Yes, that's what they were. - Yes, thanks for them, yes. - That's where they're from. - Ew, you're on fire tonight. - I'm good. - Once in a while, you're a fountain of useless information. - If I had a nickel for all this useless facts, you know what I would have? A nickel. - On that note, Jeff. - On that note. - On that fucking shit, no good. - Yeah, let's just awfulness, just awfulness. Just awfulness, horrible. - That was pretty horrible. - Anyway, I gotta get going. - No, I gotta go pack, I'm in Delaware tomorrow. - On Tuesday? - Yeah, it's a great gig, I'm at the starboard. I'm there with, one of our, I think it was a past guest. Didn't we have Kevin Downey on the show before? - We did have Kevin Downey on awhile. - Yeah, I'm there with Kevin Downey. The starboard is in Rehoboth Beach and on Tuesday night, it's the only thing to do in town is the comedy. So the room always sells out. So it's about 200 seats inside that get packed and it's like seating and then there's a standing room by the bar and then outside there's monitors and people hang out and watch the show on the monitors and they treat you great. I mean, it has Saturday night energy, you get paid like a Saturday night gig and you know, it's just, I do it once a year and it's such a good, good job. - And you can go see your favorite president while you're down at Rehoboth Beach too. - Oh, a famous former president. - Yeah, he's still alive even. - As of right now, yeah, but I'm predicting. Now people are listening to this, it'll be on Monday, they were recording this, my prediction and I don't talk politics but he will be out of all us by Thursday. He's gonna be fine. - Well, you know, I was gonna make my hack joke here is like, you know, according to this, you know, when Adam releases it, it'll be after election day. - I was gonna say after Kamala's presidency. - Yeah, I think we're very close to a president Harris presidency. - No, man, stranger things have happened. - I could see, this is what I could see happening. I could see him stepping down and her becoming president even before the election. - And then Michelle Obama. - And that way everyone kind of gets like what they want. Like she gets to become president, you know, first female president and then I can see Trump winning in November. - No, I can see Michelle Obama stepping into the election. - You don't want that shit. - Ellen, yeah, have George Soros throw $500 million her way. - If he don't need it. - You watch. - Did you ever watch that clip of a Buttigieg introducing Joe Biden? I think I'm just like, come shuffle up. - Thank you, thank you, Secretary Buttigieg. - Oh God. - He calls him Buttigieg. - Well, I'm sure in his life he has had some Buttigieg. - He's had some Buttigieg. - That's a Buttigieg. - Thank you, thank you, Secretary, annual leakage. - Oh man, anyway, I think that was a good episode. We pulled it out. - We did. All right guys, we will catch you next time on "Who's your band?" Please, despite these jokes, follow us and subscribe and, you know, all that good stuff. We really do appreciate it, and we'll catch you next time. Take care everybody. - Bye. - Bye Sean, bye Adam. - Hey guys. 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