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Big D Energy | Thursday, October 3rd, 2024
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[LAUGHTER] Listen, when we started this series, everybody said we weren't playoff tested. We just passed the biggest test of the year to date. But there's more coming, OK? Never know. Get it going. [CHEERING] Listen, listen, listen. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Listen, I'm not sure who, but somebody let the Tigers get high. [CHEERING] Oh. D-O-E-O-E-O, what's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of Big D Energy. Big D! Right here in the Woodward Division of Championship Edition. That is right. Love it. Woodward Sports Network. My name is Neil Rule, that guy, D-Mac, Darren McCarty. How about that, D-Mac? Oh, I love it. I love it. Somebody let the Tigers get hot. Absolutely. I love it. And you know what the best part was? You could tell it's like the youthful team or the younger guys where it's like, whoa, they get ready and he wasn't done. And they're all like, oh, that's not true enough, really. So the enjoyment in the locker room and just the celebrations and stuff like that. I think in the hockey world, that's one thing I was watching last night, that I get jealous about, that I got judged. And we got-- we only in hockey get one celebration. And that's if you lift the big trophy, right? You don't get to make the playoff celebration or division around, but it's awesome to see everybody and not only everybody in the organization as far as players, but everybody who works in the organization, including the media, our friends, you know, you see Daniela Daniela. Bruce, by the way, with a-- if you're ever in that situation, she said, put the hat on. It stops from the spray of all the champagne. So hopefully we'll see it again. But those celebrations are epic. And his speech is just like we are locked in for Dan Campbell's post-game speeches after the Lions games. And especially after Lions win. AJ Hintz just seems to not only make the right moves on the field, but say the right things in the locker room. So a way to go, Tigers. Let's go. Absolutely. KG was really good. Andy Abanyes, period. It was always going to be Andy Abanyes. It had to be Andy Abanyes. Neil, this is why I love-- I love me and you talking Tigers, man. I'm honored to be with somebody as knowledgeable as you, man. But I kind of saw this coming. You know, I hate to do my own horn. I kind of saw this coming, though. But nonetheless. But to be fair though, KG, that's what we talked about, right? Yeah. Like, you know if they win, that's what it's going to come down to. And it came down to it in the man delivered. He did. He did. I wonder who put him in that spot. It wasn't you. No, it was AJ Hintz. It was AJ Hintz. And there's a ton to unpack with all this. Spencer Raxter. Hello. He put in the-- Epic job on the watch party yesterday. Thank you. Yeah. Epic job. A lot of fun. Love those. They are electric, man. We tapped into something on Woodward with the watch party. Absolutely. So here's the question, right? Are we getting-- and this sort of goes back to the math situation about the Sunday night football game or the Monday night football game and just about stress? Guys, understand this. Where your teams are at, you are out. We're just not used to being competitive and being stressed. Every game that every sports team in this city plays, you will begin to be stressed about, right? I couldn't imagine bases loaded for them when they go up to one and the air getting out of this room. But then again, these guys keep fighting. You know, the best part is this team never stops fighting till the last 27 outs. And my favorite stat, Neil, the whole roster and payroll of the Detroit Tigers was not what Josh Hader, their closer at 19 million, was. They defeated him. And they went through the bat. That's the whole thing. They threw-- don't give it like the Astros and throw everything that they could at the Tigers. The Tigers just were there to punch, counter punch, absorb the blows and stuff like that. And real quick, I was happy. The caveat out of this game, right, is you got Jackson Job, some experience. Now it didn't go the way that he would have wanted. But you got him under fire and it didn't hurt you, right? So it's that believability that these guys have. So I mean, who knows? Somebody let the Tigers get hot and who knows where this ends? Absolutely. The go Ryan Lenz walking into the building, right? Go, go. That's Jackson Job right there. You're walking the strut. The Jackson Job of the staff here with his Vanderbilt Commodore shirt on. But no, D-Mac, I'm glad you brought that up. And by the way, jump into the Wilward Sports Chat thread. It's electric in here. It's been electric all week. It'll be electric. Just get in there, get your thoughts in there. All you got to do is subscribe. We're making a push towards 100,000 subscribers on YouTube. Oh, the flagship would never. But anyway, get in there, get your thoughts in there. And I'm glad you brought that up about the staff, D-Mac. I want to send a shout out to my guy Jim Schoehler. He's an athletic trainer with the Tigers. He was with Oakland up until March. And then the Tigers hired him away. And you know what Oakland did? And then we be Kentucky in the tournament. He moves to the Tigers. They beat the Astros. Hey. It's all Jim Schoehler. Facts are fact. Facts are fact. Y'all Oakland, y'all produce some people, man. You know, that's all I'm saying there. Can I do a quick shout out? Absolutely. Yeah, shout out to all you bums that were running that broadcast yesterday. Horrible. Absolutely embarrassing. For a national network, the camera angles were shit. They were cutting stupid pans of the crowd in the middle of pitching sequences. We are missing pitches. No stats put up. You weren't putting up any stats or like, it made me feel bad. Made me feel good about myself knowing that I could do better than that. But that was embarrassing. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Joe Biden will say that was a two pack of ass when we watched yesterday. Yeah. Luckily for me, I was catching it on the radio. Shout out Dan Dickerson. No, absolutely. It was the only time I was going to have to get the lawn mode. So I was in there getting-- You was forced. I was forced. That was terrible, man. Like literally terrible. We were literally missing pitches because they waited too long to do replays. They weren't even giving us replays of things we actually wanted to see. It was just off honestly the worst broadcast I've ever seen in my life. Air Force Matt G, this one warms my heart, took the Tigers at plus 600 after the Astros took the lead. Bed into the volatility. I love it. I love it. The generics, I love it. Now Air Force Matt G, the only thing that would make me feel better than that is if going into the bottom of the ninth when the Astros were plus like 225 or whatever, because that's what I do. I'll hedge it and then just-- Yeah, just see where it goes. I'm going to pay you. All right, exactly, see where it goes. See where it goes, absolutely. Jeff reviews, the sound, the picture, everything was trash. It was something. Need to do better. I couldn't believe that like ABC, you're a shell company of ESPN. You're all run by the mouse. Like the mouse has all you guys in his pocket. It should be better than that. There is no reason a national broadcast is that poor. It was-- it was bad. Let's go revving Sparty. I think let's go revving Sparty drills it perfectly. Broadcast was brutal. I'm not a Michael Kay fan. I'm not either. You could tell none of them did their homework on the tags. It's not Frazier. Just repeating the same stories over and over again. And let's go revving Sparty. That every game I've ever done in my life, whether it's a high school JV game when I started doing whatever games I could do, there was always a prep that-- you know what I'm saying? Because the people that are watching give a shit. Thank you. And even if it's the people's family, somebody cares. So act accordingly. You know what I'm saying? That's always been a mantra I've rolled with. But that's always my problem. The best and the best go the extra mile. 100%. And if you listen, they'll throw a caveat in there, especially for the family or for somebody who's paying attention of, oh, man, I listen to you do it all the time, where it's like, well, this guy's not only-- you don't think it's on his homework, but it makes you feel good because you get, oh, I didn't know that. Or you learn something new about somebody else. But again, the total disrespect, do you think we have to worry about it now? Even though you mentioned this earlier, Neil, because you think your broadcast is louder before. Right, it's about to get worse. The Dodgers and the Yankees are entering the chat now. So they'll be playing-- the Guardians-- I'm surprised they're playing in the afternoon. I figured the Tigers and the Guardians be at 9 AM. I'm running. Damn, they're blackout. What time is the game on Saturday? Let me see. What are they? Are they-- I want to say they're-- are they 1 o'clock or 4 o'clock? I can't-- 4 o'clock. Yeah. It's got to be 1, I feel, but-- I got to think you've got to be 4, doesn't it? I think so. After college-- you know, the-- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Does that come into play, Neil? No. No. They don't care. 1.2 billion reasons, just like we're going to-- 1.2 billion. You can't-- and look, we can't get mad about it. So we just-- I'm telling you that going in. The Yankees are here. What's that? 1 p.m. 1 p.m. is. OK. The Yankees are here, and that goes up against like Fox, National College, football, and all this. Guys, it's what-- I don't care. We're in. Yeah. And it counts the same. It does. And we're in. So I'm past that, dude. I don't care. You're going to listen on the morning drive. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So it doesn't matter to me. They're in, and they got just as a good shot as anybody, because all of these teams are flawed. Yes, even the Dodgers are flawed. You know who their best pitcher is? We gave them to them. And that is their best pitcher, which is unbelievable. Unbelievable. What's more egregious? That is-- or the Michigan Quarterback situation. It's the same thing as the Michigan Quarterback situation, as far as not having an arm or whatever, which makes them susceptible. No, no doubt. But we are. We're going to get into the game itself. I don't know why everybody-- the main storyline for whatever reason, again, comes down to the Jackson Job thing, which, you know-- Yeah, can we talk about that? Because-- Yeah, we got to set some people straight on it, for sure. I think that the Astros manager is egregiously bad. He gave us this series. He played a part in it. Yeah, you did. Absolutely. We'll discuss. Yeah, Joe Espada, man. Thank you. Thank you. No, we'll certainly get another. It's for AJ and Astros. No doubt, too. If it were me, I would have just said, OK, we suspended them for a year. I'm keeping them. I don't care what you said. Exactly. But that's just me. Yeah. Whatever. Woodward Sports Chat, through a jump in to there. JP 17, three of the four American League teams left are AL Central teams. And you know what? I think I'm prepared to say the Chicago White Sox are not the worst team of all time. They were just trapped in the best division in baseball. No, you're going to give them that out. All right. What would you do if you had to go against a bohemus? I was a White Sox fan. I'd say that. It's the greatest division in the history of sport. It's too bad only one can get to the World Series. Because if we're being honest, it should be two AL Central teams in the World Series. You know what I'm saying? Who farted Astros window officially closed yesterday? RIP. And you know what? That is probably true. Because it's a shame that Braggman's going to be a tiger next year. He was beating the piss out of the ball, even when he was out. I said it on the morning show. They went to six consecutive ALCS series. And we beat them, stopped them from going to their seventh with one starting pitcher. I don't think we realized the gravity of what the hell the Tigers just did. Burned little Chris knocked over the Astros garbage can. You know I got to play it now, man. All right, D-Mac, let's get into it, man. Tell them about Salvation Army. We'll take the break. We'll get back into it. 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They ground, and even you look at the tying run, force the pitcher into a bad pitch. Right? That's one of the things, and the keys is the way they've commandeered the base path. I know I heard a story on the radio the other day about Joey Cora, who, obviously, you see him pinwheeling a third base and waving guys in, but doesn't really say much in the locker room, but when it came to the base run, and he let them all have it, and the end of it was like looking around going, "Well, yeah, it sounds about right, okay." And they're younger, they're faster, they play hard, right? It doesn't matter if anybody else doesn't believe in them. They believe in themselves, and they play that way. Yeah. Right? There's one thing to talk about at Neil, but there's one thing to show it. That doesn't mean victories all the time, and it doesn't mean that the magic carb right continues, but they got a shot. That's all you want. Like KJ has said, somebody let the Tigers get hot, no one goes. And the moment that I haven't heard anybody around here talk about is, for me, when Joe Aspada went to Hader with-- Eighth inning. Eighth inning. Eighth inning. I believe Tor-- I want to get this exactly right. Hader came in after Colt Keith walked. Yep. He knew that, you knew that Torkelson was coming up next, and you knew that Zach McKinstry was up after that. If you're going to let him pitch to Torkelson, then you know that they're going to pinch hit for McKinstry. And who's pinch hitting for McKinstry? Andy Avayes, the lefty killer. And the best part is AJ Hinge had both things ready to go. First of all, McKinstry was hitting the ball. Hard. Yeah. So he had a great-- we wouldn't have won that game if it wasn't for Zach McKinstry. The play he made in the first inning to get Al Tuve first, that was the best play I've seen made in third all year. And it kept Al Tuve off the base pass. But if they go with the righty instead of the lefty, you could pinch hit when self-pressed. 100%. You're getting a good bat either way. 100%. And he walked in a spot of walked into the worst situation possible to have Andy Abanya is up there in that spot with the numbers flipped. It's a wrap. And he got the job done. And that is what that one decision, close the door. It closed the door on the Astros. And AJ Hinge was just playing chess against a man who was playing checkers. And it's so apparent. And the Astros are so dumb, so dumb for getting rid of him. But I'm glad they did. Maz and all his Bill Wilderman and knowledge yesterday said something that was pretty stuck with me a little bit. Shout out to Megan Hinton in the Wilbur Sports chat. She says, Abanya is triple, it was a double, right? And then he advanced some title. Yeah, it's a roll, yeah. We'll go down in Tiger's history like Maglio's home run. Thanks. I asked Maz, I was like, is the Abanya's double? No. It's a little of no deal. No win of this generation. That's there. It said no because there's bigger hits to come. Yeah. And that's a lie. Okay. To win a wildcard round, it's not going to be up there with Matt. No, but it's the biggest hit in the last 10 years. Yeah, it's their first playoff win in 13 years. Right. Come on. No, I don't disagree with that. I don't know why everybody wants to talk about taking Justin Burlander. We're talking about the biggest Tigers win in over a decade. Yeah. We're not talking about bring Justin back. There's a reason he wasn't on the roster. Ineffectiveness is the reason. So here we go. Uh, Woodward's board's chat, throw a jump into there. Let's go revving Sparty. Then Hader refusing to throw the slider to Andy after he just missed with the outside fastball. I was like, Oh boy, here comes the backdoor slider. But nope. And yes, do Josh haters mentally small? Yeah. Yeah. Mentally small. So I'm glad he's your problem. That's the Councilman. Yeah, for the Councilman last night, because he did the same thing. When refused, at least he, you know, that that's that's some of your clothes or can't be a, uh, can't be mentally small, as you say, no, no, um, these four, uh, these four one one you brought up something, um, let's talk about, let's talk about this when we come back because it's, look, like it's on to the Guardians. We talked about the game yesterday. We know what the story was the, they stayed hot. The Tigers stayed hot. Yep. Like that's what it was. No, no, there is something else I do want to talk about, but I'm, I'm going to leave this one highlighted here at ease. We'll get to that one in the, in the second segment. Let's do this. Let's take the break and come back and talk about a few things like Lady James haircuts. Absolutely. Walking any Lady James haircuts for Monday, open 70s, a week, sit back, relax and enjoy a $20 haircut, special scalp massage, hot leather neck shave and a towel treatment from one of the talented stylists. Take advantage of the $20 haircut special. 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drink your drink, drink your drink, drink your drink, drink your drink, drink your drink you guys realize that Sean Gunther has Sean Gunther in his career in baseball he was with the Marlins in 2021 and here in 2024 he had a 9-3-0 ERA with the Marlins and then shows up here and is gets the biggest double play we've had in the deck Chris Fedder the Midas touch I'm telling you Chris Fedder come Chris Fedder come on maybe you could my arm back you know how I want that statue of Brad Holmes on top of the rent send I think that maybe we could get Chris Fedder up there as like one of the disciples at the table or something like that it's not Judas with AJ Hinch right you know what I'm saying yeah like you know how Brad Holmes at the top of the rent send like yeah yeah I'm telling you man Chris Fedder is gonna be gone pretty soon oh yeah they turn it on my watch do it on top or put it in the new park they gonna put over here the new park looks awesome yeah where have I heard that before what are there gonna be a bunch of restaurants and hotels and nightlife well no it's already gonna happen it's for real for real for real yeah like actually yes did you hear that one I didn't hear that I was down there for jazz fest and I was looking at the poll like they got the plans on the road already it looks really nice what they're gonna do there and I can think of something I thought was gonna be really nice I'm cool you don't need the rent send and Kobo yeah anything you can do the red said you can do a Kobo you don't need the two right next to each other I tell you what this little park thing it looks it's really nice it's about time though yes it's not district Detroit don't worry he does less with more waterfront yeah the real water is so awesome you know big as we're a friend in the country nobody does less with their waterfront than we do nobody does less with this much yeah like for real yeah that's the trade like like the only thing I remember being on the river as like a lifelong Detroiter was when they had that temporary boat casino there no yeah that's about the Bible like for real yeah that's all I remember and that was Canada's but anyway Terry school was a question for me which is odd you figure he would ask ownership this but hey he let it rip hey Neil do you think the tigers need a better closer like Classe or Duren or Diaz I'm I'm Tariq I mean you know as well as anybody you're both in behind you's done the job I probably wouldn't do this in the public form I'll probably go to Little Chris like say a little just hit him up on the text so yo little Chris that's a little Chris you got a couple minutes I'm comfortable with will vest or briskie or we got six guys who could be a closure 36 and 11 their last 47 years I gotta get a gun I gotta get a Sean Gunther Jersey I gotta get him to sign it I'll be in the collection oh yeah speaking of pictures can we talk about what what we would do about game one AODS after I have some coffee from Sabbath 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It's the video man saying that yesterday oh yeah oh you clipped it I'm gonna leave the mics up it's so funny all right oh what's that we turn the buzz uh yeah well that was Benny don't say yeah I'll do that you just bomb yeah watch it grow six inches we need to be able to watch parties man he's a he's not just entering that but I don't give up yeah have senile you're right no governor yeah about to grow six inches that job Sean Hart you're fired up fucking well man Sean Hart you says playoff baseball is so much fun it is guys again enjoy this because it's the only one we've ever with the only one we're ever gonna have without expect whatever happens is cool like for real enjoy this guy that's why that's why I love this so much and you guys know man like nobody was more pissed about their state of affairs than me nobody that's facts but you let that go and for real because because everything from here's a bonus everything's a bonus every game we get every good moment we have everything as a hasn't been no no yeah he coming around yeah it's our boy who's like yeah smoked his way through his habit right you know terminal kneel over here right how do you not quit an addiction but actually get it back under control right he's still on the smack but it's it's in moderation now here's the week yeah right there's something beyond the week yeah it's because we're all the same way i said yesterday right like because Kenny and I were apathetic like everybody like it's so the way organically and you've lived and died with this to the bitter end so it's it's awesome but it doesn't matter how we got here we're all here we all here and you look at the watch parties you look at down you know downtown i mean the games are already sold out i mean what you would expect and stuff like that like i was just trying to think kneel and i know we want to talk about like the pitching and stuff but i was just trying to think because we had expectations for the lions last year to make the playoffs and and right so what was the last time you sort of got like surprised like because this is all organic to whatever else but i would have nowhere and it's like oh my god like that lions run at the end that they 20 22 that was that was the same that was the organic like yeah whatever happens to sort like the wings last year at the end of the season where they played much so they actually made it well i mean different people make different rules just don't look any why you have more wins than other teams right it's just a big yes the magic of those last three games four games whatever it was magical mm-hmm like lca and like listening to the games on the radio for the tigers and at the end of the week like the crowd is just roaring roaring and again that that you get this and then next next year there's expectations and it's almost becomes like a grind as a fan you know what i'm saying well it's but but it's you really get your lives fandom this year right it's changed right because you have expectations and we live and die throughout each game and pass and this and talk about us are doing better dealing with it than others i think that's fair to say but in the end dmak there is no one game for the lions this year that's going to determine anything unless they don't get in the playoffs if they get into the playoffs it's all that matters and when they're in there then we're all in then it's life or death but until we're just kind of playing with our food right now you know what i'm saying and like we can't leave the table until the playoffs so you know it just that's my point we never get this i can i can count i can count on my hand one hand how many times this has happened we've had like that organic run yeah like the when the the first time the pistons won 50 games mm-hmm you know after they after the bad boys came they tore it apart they went down to teal uniforms and loivat and like it was wow it was rough it was rough it was and then that first time that they got good it was you know it was like platonic fun like that's what this is now and i just want the people to uh to to react as such um and and uh the twins tins actually because they retired the w at the end of the season look at uh our cutting payroll even more it's been a magical year well bern we're gonna have that discussion after this is over i can't wait to because there's been some news about diamond sports and ballets and i'm gonna translate it for everybody but we're not doing that now we're doing that later so uh i know you want to talk about the pitching thing but you know what since we got like five minutes or so left i've been wanting to do this and we're gonna do it now right what was a moment what was a moment for the tigers this year when you when you thought okay this is real and i'm going to tell you when it was for me when they were in san diego and they were about to be swept and they're down three runs going into the bottom of the ninth and parker meadows is up against a guy throwing 103 miles an hour and i was actually i had just i was down in florida for work i had just turned it on my phone listened to it in the hotel and parker meadows hits the opposite field grand slam his first opposite field home run since high school yeah since high school and i said you know what this is like divine intervention now like somebody's somebody's making this stuff happen you can't because you can't write that you can't write that and that was when it popped in my mind and i was like you know what man like there's something to this if they can do this this and this then they can be in the spot and then they would go do this this and this and then they got to the next checkpoint and then they did this and this and then they got to the next checkpoint you know what i'm saying like that was the moment to me and there's so many that you can choose from and then the secondary one it just it goes to show you like it didn't have like quote unquote direct impact because the mariners were this this was the kill shot for the mariners but that game where they were playing the Yankees and they were a game behind the tigers and the mariners were down two to one in the 10th and it was the bottom of the 10th they had a runner on third with one out and their batter swings and misses and the bat slips out of his hands and goes down the third baseline and the runner jumps out of the way towards the dugout and the Yankees catcher throws it down to third and they tag the guy out i was like i've no baseball person has ever seen that happen before and then that was a kill shot that eliminated them it's just that was the moment for me anybody else got one no the medals home run for sure right like that was the one where well these guys just won't go away the one that gets me kneel is that when we sit here because it goes back to the well if they just went two out of the three games and go 666 which no one has ever done well guess what who just did it right the tigers at the end of the year just put that what we didn't think was possible because no other baseball team had done that over time like this is who it is right so to me it was the medals um because just if you go back that is just that was like the way cut to whatever else to to bring it going but that's the first thing that came to my mind and um because right they lose that game we're not even having this conversation right now mine was mine was in the uh Dodger series the game that they won like 11 to 9 Larry Roberts is in the chat that was kind of early though yeah that was before trade-out it was i could see like the makings of it because Kider Montero got shelled in in that game he went like five innings he gave up like eight runs or something like that and then Chris Fedder just pieced together like six other bullpen pitchers to come out there finished that game hold it close and the tigers end up winning it and that was like wow he he can work around a bad start like that from one of your few starters you have that's impressive that's how you win games late in the season it is something under AJ Hinch 2 where even through the bad like times this team always did hang around in games absolutely they rarely they rarely got pumped you know what i'm saying so i get what you're saying there Larry Roberts said the same thing then it showed me how gritty they were but that was so early on it was still so far one was the Williamsport yeah yeah with the kids and the comeback and that that to me that was dope yeah might have been if you asked them if somebody remembers this question for after the season or whatever like that what did that because to me with the youth and all that and we were like you know like food bagging on the Canadian kids cheering the Yankees and stuff like this but with a lot of young guys in your lineup and stuff like that to take them back to me that seems like that's where a lot of the air and their sales came from yeah be able to do that against the Yankees i mean if you're anybody immediately baseball do you want to play the Tigers right now absolutely no and that and you remember DMACC like we came in and we talked about that game yeah and that was like i think for me that was one of the ones that kind of got me back on board because those those punk ass kids that were sitting there rooting for the Yankees yeah i remember you said you watched it and you felt good for the first time in a while percent like that was like well you were into that was early into booing them kids so you're just getting warmed up and now you're priming the pump now now you you're a seasoned veteran's at booing kids right no well according to Kelly Stafford that's what we do here so i wanted to be on brand fast but no that Yankees game though is the one that kind of i didn't think it was possible but it did galvanize me yeah like because you you was four junkie at that point hundred percent was four but it made me feel good though because in the national spotlight when we just did what we always do here man yeah like in the national spotlight we're always in inconvenience and you can go back you can go back to the Pistons time and all of it we're always in inconvenience that be the tv network or a league or whatever she just kind of wants to go away or just to lose to New York or they expect us to lose you know like and i'm not saying like they cheat or anything like that no but they don't want us to win this broadcast yesterday and throw garbage like hey you know you and you do you know the Tigers yeah they play in the soccer league or whatever yeah you know yeah espa hated when we won that Williamsport they could stand it and now and kg dude now i that was yeah that was the blue magic stuff right there i do an interview after the game like with any of the Tigers players they just cut right to Sports Center or whatever what you're right that's fun they hated it you know you know it'd be Aaron judge and John Carlos standing Juan Soto all a triple teaming Scott Van Pelt or something you're right it was the Yankees Jesus jolary as soon as bias went out we won four four games in a row right there that's uh that's that's the biggest moment of the season right when bias got injured what about you kg where what was the moment um mine would be middle of September when they had that series where they faced Baltimore then they had Kansas City and Baltimore again because i think at that time we all knew that they had to win a lot of games in order to actually close the gap and i can't remember how many games they they won you know during that stretch but they won enough to to officially close the gap from what was it like five and a half and they brought it to within like a game game and a half and then of course you know they went out i think it was the Tampa Bay series after that they went out and handle business but it was that stretch right there that showed me like okay this is actually for real because nobody believed they was gonna really climb out of this hole and yes they needed some luck to happen they wasn't just gonna get out of it what they play along but the fact that you had all that magic you had the twins falling at the same time that you were winning games during that series you you bested Baltimore a lot of those games and were able to put yourself in a position to where you got in the wild car race um my sister's boyfriend Alex just sent me this picture so shout out to Alex because that's a good one oh my god i love the habit do you text that to me spending about the alabela chat group i'd like that yeah um sky dog 722 kneel the 1987 tigers they still had the bones of the world series team no yeah you know they they still had they they still had the pretty much the core intact for that 87 team um so yeah it is it's just it's wild because everybody's answer is different yeah everybody's answer is different i think the you know for me that kind of changed my attitude about the team i didn't anticipate them ripping off 30 out of 40 wins that was crazy uh nobody did but when they did finally break down and send hobby away you know you got and you guys contract this back once they send him away you saw me put my dukes down mm-hmm right to some degree yeah you know we all did and because of the reason of what it is it not more apparent than anything else watching guys battle at the plate or whatever as far as has it just let me ask you this question right pre hobby post-heavy hasn't the whole lineup looked more disciplined at the plate absolutely oh yeah the vibes have been better they're they're doing what sky hairs and AJ hinge want them to do they're staying in the strike zone punishing pitches when they get them over the plate and not swinging at ugly shit yeah it's great to see and kneel i told you this before it all culminated that day when we faced the cubs and he had that standing ovation and you came in here and you you know you got a little bit emotional and you laid it out you know on the line that the stuff will have you buy yes but without that game i don't know if that they necessarily sit him down because at that point they were still batting him like six or seven for the lineup and you know that day happens and now they start pushing him to knife and now you know he gets hurting they tell him to go home essentially like without that game and in just the i i don't know what else to call it but embarrassment because it was kind of like you were embarrassed that you know he's out there you know pimping these these cheers and all that you know from the chicago coast fans when he's done nothing for this tiger's organization in three years those feelings are coming back right yeah but just talking about it but that's where it all culminated in and that was low key the change all right we got uh we got to get to the break all Larry roberts best decision they ever made uh like you've been saying all year and you'll get with that clown bias out of here no i mean trace we somebody said sorry real quick before we go to break somebody in the chat yesterday and heavyweight said uh flarity should be on this still be on this team no no wouldn't have traced sweetie we wouldn't be in the playoffs thanks what if i told you scott heres was a low key buyer yeah a sale turned into a buy you love it maybe he's gonna get a return on her on get flarity back and then have still arguably your short stop for the next well he can still go get flarity next year that's right and you still have sweetie you needed sweetie more than anything and and i'm not going to say you needed more flarity because you know but to what he meant at the time to this team gives scott heres his props yep and age like they made that move you can't say trace sweetie hasn't had the glove and and the production yep yeah add that shorts opposition that we're lacking from buy it and if you keep flarity and don't make the playoffs as a fail at 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like it but we don't have time for that because we got real stuff but we'll do a top five that's uh that's what we're doing we do in the usual rote yeah leading off spencer rax all right my top five is that it is that what i think it is no it's not okay all right no that is a rubber glove okay all right this was from a uh there's no your list is already about this is yeah a student council movie night is student council movie night in high school it was a rubber glove i do remember that holy shit i do have a i've an honorable mention i forgot about it until uh until literally just now but they're the nutter butter bites mmm they're like they come in a bag they're like bite-sized little butter butters those are insane number five i got jesic grooves slept on jesic grooves that white cheddar you're you you die on that hill they are not a good they are insane they're they're the future of chip jesic grooves it's in between a cracker and a chip right in the sweet spot love jesic grooves hold on go blue i knew michigan state students were dickheads that's fair that's my high school setting high school setting but at number four i got beef jerky any kind of beef jerky i'm an original guy or a teriyaki guy doesn't matter love beef jerky number three honey roasted cashews yeah cashews are the most elite nut most left out no ditty the most elite nut in the game are cashews and it's not close i will argue with anybody at number two i got the barbeque twist fritos those are so i could eat an entire bagelose in 10 seconds and then at number one i got the light saver gummies preferably the the wild berry bag but uh the light saver gummies are aware it's that ain't spending scabs wants to know are you sure you're not a trojan or a sparti not a trojan uh why at bear on a road trip i once bought a v8 splash as a joke they had just come out turns out it was awesome they're good and they saw it they saw it oh yeah oh yeah splat which is funny because the regular v8 horrible this vegetable juice though it's like the v8 splash is actual fruit it's liquid sodium yeah that's what that shit is or splatches are good that's what a v8 that's what original v8 one is um a lot of love coming through for combos you got to let it all play out everybody lots of other combos that forever peanut butter filled pretzels also i forgot about combos i'll admit kg yes sir in the second position road trips it is me bonus points if you can name who's in that picture with me is that your uh is that your nephew no is that a morris no that is the andre levi oh sure yes shout out 54 man he will he used to patreonized townhouse uh a bar downtown when i was actually smile when you get a picture of levi yeah of course so well at the time i told him we needed the division of course that didn't happen but anyway number you're fault you're number five slim gem though yeah number five is only when i number one isn't available but the slim gem the tabasco slim gem you you can't go wrong with those man and i always get the extra long one pause and yeah you just you snack on it for a couple hours have some chips in between it's great elite fish bait too some gems are yeah levi lead the legan interceptions one year i think tackle tackles yeah i don't know about it picks right number four yep number four the caramel cheddar popcorn really i think they call it a chicago style but it's really like a detroit type of thing man you gotta digress it you go to detroit popcorn you get you a nice little bucket of this but no on the road this is great you you're like caramel cheddar popcorn is i know i've never tried caramel and chut oh it's good yes the mix yeah i know the mix oh my mix is good no caramel cheddar popcorn mix it is fucking great man um at number three chester's hot fries i know they not for everybody but they are cracked two black people specifically me see that's how i know i qualify yeah i love hot fry it was the andi cap hot fries back in the day yeah but same deal you know any caps kind of lost this song they're not horrible i don't i don't hate on them like most people do but they not they're way but they're not chester yeah no they are but that that was at the anti-cap hot fries were my gateway yeah to the hot fry realm which birthed uh the better made hot red hot barber yeah yep yep yep that's i telling you cagey i'm closer than you think you're not going into the most slept on right on oh my yes right hot f onions are so good i love f onions just period though they could have made this list but at number three of course the chester's hot fries at number two peanut M&M's the best candy on planet earth you can't tell me otherwise and number one i would agree with you beef jerky and listen if it's not that one brand that has the sweet baby rays barbeque oh yeah it's either that or you know you on the road and you just happen to find that beef jerky shop just off the side of the road yeah kind of looks like it's some races in there but you're going there anyway but you know yeah yeah you already made your peace with it so you can deal with it exactly but you know what they're thinking when you walk in you want that jerky oh the teriyaki jerky from those type of places is absolutely elite oh yeah that is my top five road trips next all right p_n_m_s are so good oh the best the best some instant reaction um like oh niel is busting out his card right now he tried to make in the push he tried to uh Dante 151 and he kept onion rings are awesome they got onion rings i did i know that uh jeff reviews says hot fries are for people born before 2002 i i guess i am but whatever man they're good kg they're good yeah they are they're absolutely correct i do love the hot red hot genre yeah i celebrate a lot of it yeah you should do red hot lays if you enter the red hot stuff they are good to yeah red hot lays you lose a spin no oh my god i'm gonna save up my sodium for a couple of days absolutely but absolutely but you know i i will demac you ready to rock ready to rock uh hold on go blue says that's what we call a quote black snack yeah exactly terminology what is a black snack is it like a black job dog it it can be simpler uh shout out by g jerky knows no color it brings people together that's true that is a fact all right demac what i've been looking forward to this one anybody know who that is in the picture there oh that would be Wayne Gretzky's youngest brother Brent Gretzky oh wow okay i played junior with yeah you still close with him i know you guys are yeah oh yeah place he's a OPP in uh in Canada in north Ontario but still does like NHL alumni stuff just shit on my little deandrey living picture okay well i didn't you know way to go let's see right now that's my guy let's all right um an honorable mention because i forgot uh combos yeah and if i'm gonna go it's the pizzeria ones are my favorite that's pretty much all that is but trail mix trail mix and and it there's got to be you know some peanuts it can be the checks mix brand it can be it's got to be something like you know what's great about trail mix demac is you can convince your mind that it's not as unhealthy as the other stuff it's got reasons yeah like you know it's not it's not awful sugar but it's still a lot of sugar well it's good to know for somebody that cares about that yeah not a fair one not even comes into my which i eat it which obviously you don't as we go to number four right the nerd gummies right yeah that specifically uh shadow to tov Thomas Oliver vendetta for introducing these on one of the last wrestling road trips nice those things are fire uh number three slept on you know i love my pastries but those mini donuts oh my god which ones what flavor though are you doing powder like chocolate what's your flavor i'm more of a chocolate uh chocolate ghost powers two dirt i like the crunchy ones too those ones are crunchy strawberry ain't bad either not bad not bad i don't like the powder ones because i feel you can keep people thinking it's 1990s they're right told you about 10 over here there it is um number two jerky and cheese right so so any combination now you could be up north at one of those alex markets or whatever like that and you get the log cabin one on the way up here you get the cheese you can get the jerky of any kind whatever bottom in your go to date i'm right with you if i got to go to that slim gym with the one in the cheese and besides yeah you know i'll do it you're not above it the cheese is a slept on element of that though i want to get you props for that the cheese with the jerky is pretty good right when you're down the road and it's like a one and one mm-hmm we both both bite at the same time yeah and number one right oh i used to smash the rippets dude the gree there's a green tribute rippet that is my life right now yeah right that is my life they don't have it over there they got it it might be p but if you have not tried rippets and you're into the energy drinks they're good and they're only a buck in a quarter each yeah so value which Neil i know doesn't probably means they're the worst healthiness but they're probably probably but they work they're a step below master but they're pretty good though you get the right flavor well we're sports chat or let's go revving Sparty i was big into rippets when ripp hamilton was a piston oh wow i've ever been a energy drink guy i mean the one i did do was venom oh crazy was the thing i used to drink venom hey move you shout out tom hard shout out yeah i i love that our top five list oh they're so good the people get into it oh yeah man we get into it DMACC makes me get into it i just such anticipation of DMACC and it was everything i thought it was literally everything i thought it would be yeah the the diet of a 12 year old still i love it yeah i love you for that man yeah i love you all right here we go last uh maybe least i don't know uh honorable mention oh yes with the u and lv jersey that's my guy larry johnson you guys know i i love that that u and lv team was one of my favorite teams of them all time yeah the tark the tark to and on the towel yeah absolutely um honorable mention of pringles by the way oh yes great and they're perfect for traveling they're not in a bag they're like self-contained so you can you know what is it they're not in a bag they're in that can it's like self-contained what are they called Pringles Pringles yeah and it can't you know get the hand stuck in the can do you get the longer the short can you look like a short can guy yeah back in the day yeah it was it was get your hand stuck in there uh yeah i got a tilt in it no you just you must hand it yeah you just tip the can over you know like that's oh yeah yeah teeny turn i mean that's uh number five beef jerky um sweet and hot that's a good flavor that's a good flavor you save up the sodium for a couple of days on uh for sure beef jerky but it can beef jerky's one of those ones if you work hard enough you can convince yourself it's healthy because there's a good amount of protein and exactly even though it's not but it kind of is on number four fonions blasphemous that nobody had fonions on their own it's honorable mention for me i love fonions is elite it is um as a back as a kid watching hockey night and cannon on a saturday night get a bag of fonions that was a saturday evening everybody that was uh fonions absolutely elite i number i know it's not a food but number three gum it it feels like when you especially when you're driving like you like you got whether you're in an airplane whether you're driving how don't you go i i mean i do you know so like i used to be a big gum guy so i i like it i respect it again it's not a food or whatever number two coffee that's dmax rippets i gotta have it when i'm when i'm long driving i gotta have it it's a non-negotiable yeah and number one with a bullet some flower seeds driving only i'm not doing a long flight but if i'm driving got spittercup knocking down those sunflowers what flavor of sunflower seeds who am i speaking to who's in the room ranch or dill pickle dill pickle i could respect it i could respect it but ranch it as that's the one i'm a dill pickle guy if it's just me probably just plain i knew it i knew it but if i'm trying to convince the delegation kg yeah read the room dill pickle was acceptable i knew dill pickle was acceptable i knew that yeah um disrespect it not my favorite but respect that that was fun everybody's good too that that was a lot of fun man uh as always and that was our top five list i know what's on everybody's top five list of best pre-game shows top one as a matter of fact top top top top top of football sundays right here on what we're sports nobody's doing it better every sunday eight to nine a.m you have Matthew Broder you have Terry Foster and that gives way to the New Holland Brewing Company lion's pre-game show tendinume we're live at second best bar in Detroit on 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I'm a dill pickle guy that's my dad when I played baseball he uh he used to give me dill pickle sunflower seeds and the fierce grape here it's oh fierce grape anyone that brings up candy corn or black licorice should be banned not for real from the show forever and I know you asked it black people like black licorice no nobody likes black licorice nobody that it's in the candy corn family for sure oh yeah circus peanuts candy corn and black licorice are just Boston beans oh yeah peanut butter kisses yeah trash like the whoopers either I'm not I don't mind their chocolates yeah it's like malt chocolate it's chocolate and malt and I don't want to get the I don't want to get everybody going um because like mike and ikes and hot tamales and that's mike and ikes are delicious hot tamales suck they're the same they not they're not the secret they're constructed the same yeah but they are but they're not the same flavored mike and ikes are actually good yeah all right let's talk about this tiger's guardian series because a debate broke out here in our studio on our show kg wants scuba to go Saturday yeah that's blasphemous is it only three days rest is it yeah how do you think they want this this Houston series they dictate it in scuba on three days rest no I had extra rest well yeah obviously but I'm just saying if you put scuba out there I know it's on three days rest but scuba is a dog like literally he is different he is a triple crown sigh young winning pitcher you put them out there game one that's damn near auto dub and you dictate the pace of the series from there but I'm not mad at anybody that says otherwise me personally I want game one bad and it's in cleveland go out there make it happen scuba on the mile game one for me okay let's let's revisit it because we we got our guy on right now DMACC you want to do the pics right now let's yeah let's slide the Feldman pigskin pick them cup welcome in our guy of course he is ryan paulter director of sales out there at Feldman Chevrolet in no by ryan what is going on my friend how are you going on gentlemen how are we doing how are we doing do we're all like in the world i'm fired well we'll get to that uh in a second uh but ryan again want to shout out you want to shout out the staff there Feldman Chevrolet got my new car love it uh really really enjoying it you guys went the extra mile and when I tell everybody it is easy to buy a car from Feldman it is easy to buy a car from Feldman so thank you I wanted to say that well we appreciate that Neil and uh we try to make it as easy as we possibly can and you guys do uh what has not been easy for you however have been in the pics and he fell hang on hang on hang on hang on let's not let's not let's not just separate me let's let's include everybody in on this we've all come in there you know this guy and that guy have a championship so i mean come on bro i mean i mean i'm just simulating the tiger season flow start i'm gonna come on strong don't worry about us congratulations on picking a winner last week though the d that's something d meck did not do it i'm not gonna take their turn here ryan we're doing it just so it's just you guys your lead not yeah you guys just want to know how i feel on a weekly basis when we do this thing so i'm glad you guys understand it's painful all right well let's uh let let's get this over with him like a shot at the doctor's office uh ryan paulter sitting with a five and seven record you know not not there we're still early in this uh please deliver the pics uh you're going into the college world pit huh yeah yeah i'm going in the college world a little bit you know i visited uh the university of Pittsburgh's campus it's a gorgeous campus got myself a nice hat but i think it's more about the team they're playing and you and see and i want to make sure that everyone's aware that all these lines are brought to you by cesar sports book oh that's all you feel alive professional are uh are uh are brought to you by that and uh they will uh they they do have odds on how much how many games i can lose not win um but no pit pit minus two and a half against you and see i i think it's more about the team pits playing than pit themselves um that's school down south ohio uh minus 19 and a half once again it's a lot about the school i mean let's just be real here they're the Yankees of college football they they're going to buy themselves a national championship this year and it burns me to say it but they're one hell of a team uh so minus 19 and a half against um Iowa Iowa's uh Iowa let's just be real our state's a way better team and then uh washington i'm buying in on the the jade in uh the jade in train true true everybody is minus three and uh you know that those are some good picks i believe all right well ryan you know exactly what i'm going to go to on that you can't just take favorites all the time and ride the train and get a winning rate sometimes you got to spray yourself down with lysol and get in the dirt a little bit and take some nasty ones like d-mack does yeah you do you do you do and i look at them and i told you after okay do you have a family establishment d-mack yeah i'm just saying it's i'll actually i don't mind your picks this week good luck bro yeah uh d-mack oh hey i appreciate that i'll go i'll go i'll go second d-mack and i are being way too nice to each other way too nice to each other no this is very different listen what it how far down how far further down can i kick you then you've done it to yourself plus you know and i love what i love about you is that you know you did it to yourself a few years ago but just see how long i can make this karma last it's pretty well it was you know it's just like it's just like uh cloudly mu you know he did it to himself too absolutely ryan never pulled the same thing there's a question for you here in the chat um harry wants to know ryan if they gave you the keys to any vehicle on the lot and you could take it home and keep it what would it be oh that's a good one oh well i mean that's a good question i'm a i'm a big uh i'm a big full-size SUV guy so i i'd probably do George's demo because he's got to have the biggest you know badass suburban that we ever had and on our lot so probably has uh i mean we got corvettes too i just i'm not a huge corvette guy i think they're great cars but it's just not my type cup of tea so it would it would probably be uh a suburban high country for sure all right all right that's that's what i figured all right d-mac you're uh you're on board let's get let's get to d-max pick just leave the keys in the corvette next time we're there anyways does it concern you that you have one of ryan's picks what's that does it concern you that you have one of ryan's picks he's got one of my picks oh okay there you go right oh i'm also five and seven so that you are what are you one behind you guys oh wow now it's getting interesting i'm riding the jane daniel's train uh washington uh they've really they've impressed me and i think they'll get going um i forget where they're playing but it looked good i added two d-max or on the same d-max and go right yep correct yes that's a good pick eat it Trevor Lawrence i mean i put him in the cough in the other day and i got to go with it and then you know from what i saw with the seahawks plan at home who they got the giants yeah they got the giants at home so that should be an auto dub danny nickels uh there but i i expect uh i like my picks this week i'm gonna at least go two and one you know d-mac d-mac picked quarterbacks like you you're you're you're picked this week i like this this week i did yeah you pick well do you know how i do my picks at least and for the first ten weeks this season i just point and whatever i point at i'm gonna pick i let my daughter do it so i swear to god that's because of god that's how i let you have a chance and i i can continue to do this because niel hasn't really like he's he's on the d-mac program if i won a championship last year i mean we're locking it back in now locking it back in now we're locking it back in now uh what works sports chat there at rich Baldwin i bought my Camaro from Feldman out in white lake in 2010 so uh so there you go a lot of Feldman family uh in the chat right now okay uh my picks here is we wrap this thing up the Feldman Chevrolet pigskin pick them cup as always all lines brought to you by Caesar sports book the French brought you by Caesar sports book the michigan wolverines i'm going way i am going with the ryan paulter plan i'm not betting on michigan as much as i'm betting against washington but either way to for washington to be giving anybody almost a field goal it's kind of it's kind of laughing lost money against what yeah hundred percent like it makes no sense spanny that's insane it makes no spends yeah absolutely it almost be like michigan state getting or giving points in a game this year all right paulter wants his mic muted i guess um and you guys know you guys know that i don't like erin rogers unfortunately in this business when you have to go pick winners you have to take people you don't like who they plan and they're playing the minnesota Vikings okay the jets are catching two and a half it's over in europe one of the Vikings going to go 17 and oh and the jets got to have it they got to have it or else erin rogers is going to be blaming rober saw could be fired by the end of the day of erin roger snaps his fingers and says no what if erin rogers becomes a playing coach like jackie moon jackie moon was better i keep going keep going all right last uh last but not least this is the ultimate plug your nose and pick a game winner i'm taking a my homie dolphins of course it's plus one i know right why wouldn't it be this is the dirtiest nastiest pick on the board and but it's pretty gross so but is it gonna be ten boil or who's playing it doesn't matter they are playing the patriots and it doesn't matter trash bowl this is similar to the jets they have to have it or it's over yeah this is a non-negotiable for the dolphins and it probably is over anyway yes but if they don't win this game it's over yeah and that's a wrap like you know tarry kill and all the like it's over like let that sink in so sometimes you got to do it uh ryan before we let you go real quick what do you guys got going on well hang on i feel like you guys are like trying to make me look bad by taking some of these pics rather than doing like your normal thing so i just can't win no matter what and you guys are making horrible pics it's like the fade ryan complete segment the people the people came up with your self-awareness is on point bro so i mean yeah it feels that way it's probably happening yeah i mean it smells like a skunk it is a good luck i was why we just we're trying to get you a lead at some point in these last three years all right so maybe this one bud all right what do you guys got going on over there fell into every leg dude it's it's the same thing listen they uh they they sort of extended some of these programs and we've been dealing with uh general motors on these evs we're the nation's number one electric vehicle dealership so we're we're taking we're taking full advantage of all the programs general motors has out including the conquest offer um we we were talking about maybe doing like a sort like like a like a losing offer for michigan state fans but we didn't do that and uh you know we're we're still cooking away so all right there i miss you spiny this too ryan yeah i see george back there pacing around i know you guys are selling cars again ryan i appreciate i'm happy with my new shabby so uh thanks again and we'll be out there soon absolutely we'll see you guys soon go blue go lions and go cesar sports book baby answer roakies chicken answer roakies chicken yeah i'm right what a pro ryan paulter everybody director of sales 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you as well and you know we it was fun doing the picks there with uh with ryan paulter and that's that is one of my fun segments i like that one he i like to ease on point with the sponsorship he knows all right but i want to pick up the discussion kg and d meck and spenny uh the tigers on saturday uh kg wants tarot scuba out there i do not on three days rest where do you stand on this d-mack where where are you at with tarot what do you want to see i love your analogy we talked about it before the show right this is a five game series coming off three days rest um maybe if it was at home i don't know but i like what you said stardom game two because either you're down one possibly you can even the series coming back home or you can put a chokehold on and or you're up one you could chokehold my two coming back home in a three-game series but he's still available for game five with the augusts and stuff like that you know sunday there's sunday it's dodgers yankie's day so you're on the peon clear out so so nlb shuts down clear clear out so i so he gets at us today right and then he and then he's ready to go obviously right it's a conversation between aj hinch and tarot scuba if we do see him out there because he can go if he can go like then i'm if i see him starting game one then that's a conversation between him and aj hinch and he's ready to go and i don't think it's gonna afford us he'll still be available later on in the series but i if i had to choose just thinking about it right now uh game two because of the chokehold or getting back into it i here's the thing kg yeah for me i'm not in the business of changing anything they didn't change anything this series like they just went about how they went about yeah it's true and for me that's what i want to see them do i want they kept resulsing ready to go to they did yeah i mean i just i want to see scuba and you get to reset the roster yeah so if they need to know i would imagine they'll probably add another picture they got to yeah i would imagine they're not adding bats at this point so i'll picture yeah i i'm trying to think it would be now spinny is the swing ball because spinny agrees with me but he also like me understands the the other side as well so i'm where you where you sit next man i personally would rather see him go game one just to get that game to win that game and to start the series off right i don't know that i mean i'm not going to be mad at whatever they decide to do because i think if you win game one with scuba then you can have him game four as well yeah and so you only need to win one of games two or three and then you know you got games one and four so that's what i would do personally but yeah i i mean i'm not mad if they do either with yeah so i for me that's how i want i'd rather see game one though because and here's the other angle of it what d-mac was breaking down say you do lose game one and then you get game two you're going back even but my mindset is if we if we win game one scuba can essentially close down the club because then you have two cracks to win it at home right right and if that fails you got your dog going game five which is all you can ask for true in a worst case scenario but you pitching one and four you get a game on the road to probably the most important game of the series game one and then you have scuba at home for game four and you have him on full rest for the alc s stop it one and four stop it no no no doubt and i get i get that angle of it too but also too see here's where i'll push back a little bit on that and this is another converse if ajna we're over at the bermi ham pub i would ask him about this too you know at some point there's going to be a rain day it's october in the midwest yeah yeah you know what i'm saying like that's a good point i'm actually prepared to push some chips in on that you know what the odds are a semi-bluff you know what i'm saying yeah i i would do a semi-bluff right there so no i get it and there is like that aggressive part of me that wants to say all right we're do we're doing scuba that's our guy it's just how much data is there on him on three it's it's a literal unknown yeah it's a literal unknown that concerns me a little bit but if there was any picture that you felt could go on three days rest of scuba correct i i mean i get i don't know we don't we have no data on it some dudes some dudes are like that like some dudes they need their rest they need their time off um you want to you want to chat pull that one real quick yeah never give a count start game one game two uh chuk brew where he's a young pitcher i want him pitching for three more weeks don't burn him up and i i in a spot i think it's okay to do in a spot like awe time one time because don't get it twisted too like and just looking at the because there's an off day between game four i would i would guess does he usually do a bullpen the second day yeah you know what i'm saying they usually do a bullpen yeah well with with the spenny plan the bullpen could be an inning and game five if you go game one game four then your bullpen is an inning and get you know because it's all hands on deck all right where solson gets a start in this series whether that's game one before or after scuba i think in this series you got two starters yeah and you're gonna go scuba and also yeah also got to get some shine if he's your first just picture at the job a start i don't know about a start but an open yeah an open guess yeah because he's not going to go more than three innings yeah you know what i think resoulson like the if they if they offered you three shut out you would take it you maybe move on yeah but he has the ability to go four or five yeah things are working it's it this guy man like d-mak he's got so many different options think about these decisions yeah that's tough decisions man not really for not for this guy how tougher is it than than what he's made already oh this pole is close to you nailed it he ain't changed anything i think you see allson one scuba too get off day and you can see the clincher for four for scuba uh larry roberts Neil who you're thinking for game one i wouldn't be opposed to a bullpen day do you kind of got no choice if you don't do scuba game one well i mean you do got allson but how long is he really going to go he's only going to go three or four realistically yeah probably probably go allson but i wouldn't be opposed to a bullpen day i wouldn't be opposed to starting houlton again you know what i'm saying and just re-running the format because everyone's on their full rest i get it i'd have to look at the lineup because the only reason he started houlson's because those lefties so yeah um it's just and that's another reason why i'm on the two and five plan with scuba yeah is because if i do my bull pin day on saturday i have scuba go on monday i have my whole bull pin available theoretically on wednesday again i would i would not be i would not be surprised if lson gets a start because you got quons lefty monsarados a lefty ramere is obviously switch hitter nailers a lefty that's the first four yeah yeah top the top of that lineup is better it's tough and Houston dude oh yeah way better but they're just regular ass between six and nine they're just regular yeah there's a line yeah there's a line jos dealer hosier and viro's and steven quan that scares me a little bit the other like if you can handle them like you did elton yeah i'm trying to tell you yeah you in good shape um tami chin says i agree with niel uh motown cool vest was a real mvp uh in the wild card that's doesn't say uh just an elle game one bull pin day next day uh off day then scuba go in uh game two scuba will get you to the seventh at least and just next that's kind of where i'm leaning because i have my entire bull pin available to me and then if i got to go results in in game three then i got to go results in in game three but if i got to do that i don't want to hear while you're throwing results with your back against the wall your back wasn't supposed to be against the wall at that point so i you know there's a free pass but it is it's tough welcome baseball do you see this poll this poll is like close you have fifty one forty nine wow we never get that yeah dmak you're just keep it rolling huh vibes why why would he change i mean he's he's got to have a game i don't think i would think because resolceon's ready to go that he goes one all right scubles unless scuba says no i'm ready to go and i can be ready i just want to see scuba twice in this series what you will you will yeah so so okay so whatever whatever they decide i'd say business as usual is let them it's sort of it's as we deal with where these teams are the guys who are making the decisions know what's right we can think we do okay okay anybody else what are they 36 and 11 the last 47 games yeah all right let's take the last break come back and wrap 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winning the division in september nobody's ever there ever we're gonna take over that stadium oh yeah hundred percent couple things grads to hutch defensive player of the month big shot no big shout out and tonight uh if you're going down wings uh toronto um exhibition game pretty much full lineup in camp towel but looking to play the whole game so this might be the first this roster looks like it could be the opening day roster right here got cast burn it um you know terror cycles playing nice came and if you can't get down there we'll have the watch party for the exhibition right uh site been all you big red wings fan jose a talk hockey talk hockey you can watch the game of spencer and kg no we both won't be in tom massway yeah mass might be mass might be here uh by the way get in prices for monday in cleveland one hundred twenty five dollars so the better value if you can sneak away and the aods already sold out here yeah those are gone yeah just stand in room i think was available and those are probably damn they're gone too so um four oh eight on monday so theoretically you could do the uh the day trip game be over about seven or eight yeah pop back home be home by eleven if you wanted to if you were aggressive with it it is aggressive yeah it is aggressive right well not everybody goes to games the way you go to games penny that's fair i mean everybody should all right everybody i think that about does it uh d meck what are you up on this weekend you're out tomorrow yeah i'll be up in brian michigan saturday with luley lee playing a little music um it's a man many times stuff to do i got some got some canada stuff to do no yeah my passport okay you got some of that stuff tomorrow's uh tomorrow i won't be on the golf course i got to take care of stuff and be an adult sucks it always sucks but i'll be back tuesday all right flan will be in tomorrow nickel package right like you guys burping friday we'll do it john holland all the new holland up here um spinny's actually gonna join us yeah it's gonna wink wink nudge nudge i'm gonna work on the morning half two after you don't have a choice yeah it's like day two all right everybody we'll see you tomorrow get you ready for the weekend for d meck for kg spencer rash job meal world thanks for tapping and big d energy what we're sports now work well see you later