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Mike McDonald and Mike McDaniel. And Michael Holly, you might appreciate this because anytime I hear those names in close proximity, I think of one line from our somewhat shared youth. It's McDaniel, not McDonald, the rhymes are darrel, but the burgers are Ronald's. The burgers are Ronald's. Thank you. All right. Oh, here we go. Listen, the quote, the quote run DMC. There we go. I knew it. I knew there was something there. All right. That's right. That's exactly what I thought. I didn't think you were going to go there because that was the first thing that came to my mind. And you got to shot it out too, just like they did. Wow. What a reference. Next time. Next time. A plus. I'll have I'll have your mic off and drop. All right. Well, the dolphins learned this tricky to gain yards and score points last night, too, if we're going to continue this. And what a disaster for the dolphins. Are we learning that Tua is a superhero that they badly miss and the city is in flames without him? Or, you know, it's not like the offense with Tua was pinball machine scoring. They were down 17, seven to the Jaguars before Jevon Holland punches the ball out and gives the dolphins late life week one before Tua suffered his concussion that following Thursday night. It was not going well for the home team. Tua had three interceptions and they were all his fault. That's gotten overlooked because the obvious concern was his health. But it's not like it started off like it did last year. So is it a Mike McDaniel thing? Is it a we just don't have the pieces like we did? I don't know. But this is bad and they were booing loud. I didn't know they had enough fans to showed up the games to boo as loud as they were booing last night, Michael. They were booing. They were disgusted. Like every play you would hear it again. The long pass were Tyler Huntley somehow. First time in his life, Tyree kills overthrown. You heard the ah, and then it melted right back into boo. I mean, it was that I was impressed. I didn't think the fan base for the dolphins was that passionate to muster the will to boo after every freaking play. That's how bad it's gotten in Miami. Whose fault is it? It's so bad. They are they are really in a rut and you said it. You asked the question is to a superhero? Apparently yes because the whose reputation has risen in the in the absence of Toa. It's Toa's and Mike McDaniel's has gone down. I guess the positive you could say for Mike McDaniel is that he built an offense that really had Toa in mind more than we realized because think about it. Before Toa's injury, I know a lot of people outside of South Florida thought, okay, if you put a decent quarterback in Toa's place, as long as you have Tyree kill and Jalen waddle and you got most dirt and you got all these guys, all the speed in the backfield, you'll be fine. And you got Mike McDaniel who designs cool plays. No. And I know these quarterbacks aren't great. You have to when you go from Skyler Thompson to Snoop Huntley and you're when you're thinking, oh, maybe Tim Boyle can give us something. Get Huttony out of there and get Boyle in. You don't have a lot of great options. But this is, I thought Mike McDaniel and the Dolphins had a little bit more than it. Just a little bit. And to the point, Mike, where I'm saying next week, I don't know who I'm going to pick. Will I pick the Patriots or Dolphins? That's what you got next week. So do they have enough to beat the Patriots? I didn't even think that was a question even without Toa being on the field. It really is amazing when we just had the conversation about all of the quarterbacks out there who have second life and who proved to be competent beyond that, beyond that. There's always a cluster of veterans who are available in any given offseason. And if we learned nothing last year, it's incumbent on every team to have a competent backup quarterback who can step in at a moment's notice and get it done. And Joe Flacco, the comeback player of the year in 2023, who the Browns didn't want back because they didn't want the Flacco chance, a cacophony of we want Joe when there's trying to get a return on their Deshawn Watson investment. They couldn't bring him back because he'd be playing right now in Cleveland. If he was back there, the fans would revolt if they didn't bench Deshawn Watson and go with Joe Flacco. The Colts get him and what do they do? They win a game because Flacco comes in after Anthony Richardson gets injured early and wins the game. And I know it's a different offensive style between Flacco and Toa. But man, anybody could have signed Flacco and shame on the Dolphins for not of all the teams, Michael. The Miami Dolphins are the one that needs to have somebody ready to go. The injury history, the concussion history did not become expunged because he didn't suffer one last year. It was still there. It was lurking. We all knew it or should have known it. How do the Dolphins not have a better option than Skyler Thompson? And all due respect to Skyler Thompson, he hasn't played much. And when he's played, it's not like he's done anything that makes us say, Hey, that's a guy who's got a bright future in the NFL. And I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I'm trying to be accurate and honest. Why do you not have a proven veteran behind Toa? Who can do all that stuff underneath that sleight of hand shell game stuff that really gives an extra dimension to their offense and confuses the hell out of the defense. You got none of that with these other guys, which does show that that's one of Toa's superpowers, but that's a superpower that can be taught through repetition. And you get a veteran in there and you can get him doing those same things too. I just think it's a failure by the organization to not have a better QB two because you know your QB one can suffer a concussion on any given play. And Mike, excellent point. We've talked about this before. We talked about this right after the Buffalo game went when Toa went down and it was asking a question, did they have the conversation before agreeing to the contract? And it's a tough conversation. Do they have a conversation among themselves? Do they have the conversation with Toa of just, Hey, this is the risk. This is why we have a little bit of hesitation. We understand who you are as a man and as a quarterback, but we do have some concerns. And if they don't have that conversation with Toa, they certainly should be having that in the front offices in their in their private meetings because you you mentioned Joe Flacco. But think about some other quarterbacks who moved in the offseason for very, very low returns. I mean, Kenny Pickett, not that I think he's great, but Kenny Pickett went to Philadelphia or was a six round pick back at Matt Jones. Six six round pick going to Jacksonville. And I don't like McDaniel was on that staff with Kyle Shanahan. They were rumors before they took trade lands. When they when they moved up to three, remember, we had some rumors that Kyle Shanahan really was impressed with Mac Jones could understand his knowledge was impeccable. And he'd be the perfect quarterback for that system. So yeah, Kenny Pickett, you got Mac Jones. You've got Zach Wilson, you mentioned him early. Was that a seventh round pick he went for? So not that I don't think any of these guys are amazing quarterbacks, but you better have something better in place than Skyler Thompson and going to the practice squad to get Tyler Huntley and hoping that Tim Boyle can give you a spark. I mean, that's just that's just not good enough. When you're a team that thinks you've got enough that you've got a championship level or at least a division winning level. Well, and you know, the other concern I have here, and I understand the reporters have a job to do, but I just get concerned with the the breathless reporting about how two of symptoms are gone and two really wants to play and two is planning to come back as soon as possible. Like, I mean, have we forgotten what we saw on that first Thursday night game of the season? And this is the problem with it, Michael, and we probably framed it this way the morning after it happened. The problem is he's going to go right back into the very circumstance that caused the last concussion. This wasn't some fluke thing. I'm walking down the street and something fell on my head. This is I'm walking into a spot where things fall on your head all the time. This can happen. And when you add that urgency, because I think it was the urgency of the moment that Thursday night that caused him to suffer the concussion in the first place, he's going to come back and he's going to want to throw caution to the wind. He's going to want to make up for the struggles of the team in his absence. And he's going to be susceptible to another one. That's the problem with this. Oh, he's cleared. Oh, everything's great. Always coming back. Oh, he's going to be back in the exact same situation. He was in when he suffered the last concussion and we just kind of hold our breath and wait. I just, I just, I get concerned when I hear without the other side of it. Oh, he's ready to go. Oh, the symptoms are gone. Oh, he's coming back. Well, are we still sure this is the right thing for him to do? Are we sure that he should come back the first moment that he can when the injured reserve stint is over? I'm not hearing any reporting about that side of it. All I'm hearing is, oh, he's fine. Oh, he's feeling good. Oh, he's anxious to play. Oh, he's dialed in. I just, I'm concerned about, about that leading to yet another concussion for two at Tonga by Loa. Yeah, me too. I'm with you, Mike. And we're all, we're all more knowledgeable now as football fans, football observers than we were, you know, 10 or 15 years ago. So we get it. I mean, this is no opportunity to stand on a soapbox for me. I love watching football. And so I understand that, you know, concussions can happen to anybody in any game. And so that's, that's part of, I mean, that's part of the deal of, of watching. You know that, that this is a, this is a high intensity, a violent game, and we watch it and concussions can happen. So everybody understands it. But for Toa, it's different because we have now followed his concussions in high profile games. And we know now we know terms that we didn't know 15 years ago, like fencing. So when he goes down and he gets into the fencing position, we know that that is a, that is the brain signal to the body that something is, something is dramatically wrong. And the player is responding that way. So it's not, I'm not saying any concussion is something that you're looking for, but there are levels to it. And so he is getting these types of concussions that are leading to this response. And everybody doesn't get that during a concussion. It just lets you know that any, it doesn't take a big hit for Toa to be in trouble. I got to say, take the, take Toa the person out of it. Toa the player, I do not want to watch him again. I don't want to watch him. It's, it's Toa, it, it makes me nervous. You're right. I, I just can't think of any good reason to put him back in the, on the field in October. Let's say a month from today, or two weeks from today, Toa is back out there. Really? You're going to put him back on the field. Mike, how do you justify that? Like, what's the reason? I, I, I think the best thing for all involved is to buy more time and put him on IR for the rest of the year. He's eligible to return. And I saw week eight, you have to miss at least four games. Four, five, three, four, five, week, week, six, five. So yes, he would have to miss the week seven game against the Colts. He's eligible to come back Sunday, October 27 home game against the Cardinals with a trip to Buffalo one week after that. The problem I have with this and, and the report from last night from ESPN was he's symptom free and is on track to return at the earliest possible date, week eight. The circumstances are such with the Dolphins that I don't know that it's good for anybody to say to is going to save the day. You know, look how bad it is. We know the season's falling apart. And who knows how many games are going to win over the next few weeks, but we, you know, Toa returns and he's got this superpower running this offense. And there's the greater sense of urgency because things are really, really bad. It just doesn't set up for a good outcome. It's just not the right place to come back. You know, it was all about no timelines, no urgency. Let's get him time to fully recover and understand what he's going to do. But boy, we really need him back there. We, we, we, we, we, you know, and he feels that. They let him fly to Seattle to be on the sideline for that game. He was on the sideline for last night's game. He's more and more involved. He feels the magnet pulling him back to the field. That's why I said at one point, it's better for him not to return at all this year and make a good long term decision after the season. So now as all of these reports are emerging at a time when the Dolphins are crumbling, of course he's going to push to come back. I just in moments like this, I want to know where the grown ups in the room are who are able to just like Mike McDaniel was at first. He was the grown up in the room at first. I just wonder if that mindset is going to trickle into what we feel like is the momentum that's building toward to his return because they really need him back on the field as we saw last night. Yeah, you're right. And it's, it's, it's easier to be the adult in the room when it's early in the season. So it's just one loss. And you think, all right, we've got enough in place to get by, to get by, to get us through. And then you start to figure out that you don't have enough in place. You're sitting there at one and three and your off season comes back to haunt you because it goes back to the beginning of this conversation. You didn't do enough. You didn't plan well enough for the scenario where two is not there, not just for a game, but two is, two is gone for at least four. And so your plan at so far, this is who we've seen. We've seen Thompson. We've seen Boyle. We've seen Huntley. That's your plan. I don't know who we're going to see next week. Maybe Huntley again. Maybe it's Boyle's turn. Maybe Skylar returns. Like this is, you can't, because you've done a bad job of planning, you can't then make things worse by rushing to a back and, or bringing him back at all, I'm, I'm, I'm leaning toward that. I just, I think the season's gone for them. I, I think it's at one and three, I just don't think there's going to be a, a recovery for the dolphins. And so are you bringing him back because this is what he does and football players play as Bill Parcells once said football players play on Sunday or are you bringing him back because you think that you still have a chance to reach your goals in 2024. And it's an excellent point because they have a winnable game against the Patriots that they very well might not win on Sunday on the road by week and then they're at Indianapolis. You lose the next two, you're one and five. You'll win one of the next two, you're two and four, when two returns, if he comes back the earliest day possible, week eight at home, Cardinals. And yeah, that, that urgency save us to your only hope. I, I don't know that is the way that he should be returning. Those aren't the right conditions for a guy, but there aren't a right conditions. See, I'm, I'm struggling with this in my own mind. There are no right conditions because he's stepping back into a fray that has already been custom at least four times, but it's worse. It's never going to be ideal, but it's worse when it's, man, we really need to it to be toa. And toa's been watching all these games and he's been as frustrated as anyone else. And he just wants to get back there and show what he can do. This is just not, it's, it's not a good situation for anybody. And I would ask our colleagues in the media to at least factor in the human side of this when you're checking the box and impressing your producers and editors that you have the scoop that toa is symptom free and he's on track to return. Add the context or at least raise the question as to whether or not he should be returning on the earliest possible date. All right, let's take a break. We'll continue talking about last night's game from the Titans perspective and from the perspective of another team that didn't play last night, but that maybe, maybe the fans of that team are paying attention to a guy who maybe could be available before the trade deadline. And maybe we'll want out of his current circumstance. That's next tier on the FT lot. You know, we all find ourselves in situations where we can feel a little bit nervous. Sometimes from me standing in a studio, the lights get a little hot. 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The offense was moving as well as it has in a long time. Mason Rudolph is staying out there, and Mason Rudolph did for the rest of the game, and the Titans pick up their first victory 31 to 12. And Callahan saying that Levis will be back when he's healthy. They have a bye week coming up. He can say all he wants. I think the eyeball test tells us Mason Rudolph puts that team in better position to win games. First test, first test for the rookie head coach, when the media starts to ask him, "Well, wait a minute. Didn't you say this after the Monday night game?" You told me then that Will Levis was your starting quarterback 100% now. What happened? Well, we looked at the film during the bye week. We had some time to self-scout. I'm with you. Mason Rudolph, I don't know what his record is in limited time as a starter. I think he has a pretty good record. The stats never look great, but in his time with Pittsburgh, they won more games than you think they should have won with Mason Rudolph as a quarterback. Remember last year, down the stretch, when they're trying to make a move for a playoff position and they actually make it, he got them in a position in a few games, played well enough to get the victory. And then last night, he knows what he's doing. It's not impressive, Mike, but it's good enough to get you where you're trying to go. Last night, just a quick thing, right before the half. They're trying to get in a field goal position. He makes a nice throw over the middle, gets the team down in position, spiked the ball, like a second or two left in the first half. They get a field goal out of it. He just knows how to run an offense. He's never going to be that 18 for 18 for 292 guy. But if Mason Rudolph is, if it's Mason Rudolph versus Will Levis, give me Mason Rudolph. Now, last night doesn't count as a start because obviously he didn't start hashtag analysis. But as a starter in the NFL, Mason Rudolph is eight, four, and one. So your instincts were absolutely correct. And the Steelers kind of hung around against Buffalo in the wildcard round 2023, longer than anyone expected. The bills never really delivered the kind of knockout you would have expected in Josh Allen versus Mason Rudolph. That's a cupcake, not main event match on the card for the, you know, the wrestling or the boxing event that night. It's, it should be a laugher and it wasn't. So Rudolph can play. Rudolph was in demand in the off season. The steel was kind of wanted to bring him back. But I mean, I think Rudolph, I need to check my numbers on here. It's possible Mason Rudolph is making more or close to as much as the entire quarterback depth chart in Pittsburgh combined this year. So the Titan saw something in him. They did what the dolphins could have done, but didn't do. Let's have a guy who can come in and play. Another guy. When we need him. Yeah, there's another one. Mason Rudolph, not great, but can run your offense and is like these, these quarterbacks, I don't know, I don't know where Rudolph ranked in the bills, the Chris Sims quarterback rankings that he did that. What do you do? The top 40, but he's one of those guys that is somewhere in the, you know, 40 to 43 range or maybe even a little higher. Maybe I'm sliding him. Maybe he's somewhere, you know, 30, 37 to 40, 37 to 42. Not an every day, not an every week starter, but a spot starter who you're not embarrassed and the offense doesn't totally collapse when he's out there. And you're right, the dolphins look, look across the field and they ask themselves what, what I'd rather have what the Titans have as a backup quarterback or what we're dealing with right now. I think you, the obvious answer is, is Mason Rudolph who has won some games as a starter. I know Snoop Huntley was a pro bowler, but only, only in the small print Mike was he a pro bowler. Look at those numbers. He shouldn't have made the pro bow. I mean, he's, he's fine, but I think, I think Rudolph is a better quarterback. Well, and here's the difference too, because I got some pushback last night when I pointed out on social media that of all teams in the NFL, the dolphins should have had an established veteran presence. Snoop Huntley's been there two weeks. He's the guy you sign in March, not the guy that shows up and let's get him ready. You want to have the guy there. So he is ready. So he's worked with the offense. So he's taken the reps and it's not this crash course in everything to get you're ready to play. That's not the way to do it. The way to do it is to sign the guy middle of March, like the Titans did when they signed Mason Rudolph and he did not make the top 40. I don't know who was 41. Maybe he was. Jared what a loss was 40. Jared Stidham. Who is exactly what the Broncos need in the event. The bonus gets injured. You need a guy who can come in and play. It's amazing to me that people who make a lot of money to make good decisions about roster construction would fail to be ready at the most important position on the entire roster of an NFL team. Okay. So, oh, and by the way, by the way, yeah, Brian Callahan maybe needs to work on getting the line, right? He says, Will Levis is 100% the starting quarterback when he's healthy. The way to pull this off, Brian is to say, Will Levis is the starter when he's 100% because then he's just never 100% until Mason Rudolph cools off. So right church, wrong pew for Brian Callahan. Levis is the starter when he's 100%, not he's 100% the starter when healthy. That's right. I'm sure I'm sure dad pulls him aside and says, son, this is how we do this. Okay. I've been here. I've been here with some, with some mediocre quarterbacks. This is how we sell this thing to the media. We'll try it again. We'll try it again next week. Oh, we talked about superpowers as it relates to two of the Mike Toddlin's super power is such that he's managed this Russell Wilson, Justin Fields situation where he's never had to say Russell Wilson's 100% the starter when healthy. He wouldn't say that. He hasn't even said Wilson is the starter when he's 100%. He's just basically leave me alone and it works. It's word salad, word salad, leave me alone and it works. So, uh, yeah, look, new head coaches got to learn a lot of things. Like Tony Dungy says, they came in and asked him, where do you want to stay when we go to Kansas City for the, uh, for the preseason? And he's like, why you asking me, you're the head coach. These are the things you have to deal with. All right. We need to take a break. We'll be back with more PFC live right after this. I was just going to say, as of this morning going into Miami week, Jacobi Percette is still your starter. Still starter. Do you think you guys need to add more studs, twist, maybe free rushes? I just go back real quick. Sorry. You know, when we say those things, like, all right, this guy is starting as a, just like, we always, always reserve the right to do something else, no matter what the position is. And that's what, and that's how I operate. And I just, like I said, I'm always going to do what's best for the organization. Wow. Drud Mayo in studio for his weekly W E E I appearance. I doubt Bill Belichick was ever in studio. Although you can't get him out of a studio now. I bet he was never in studio with W E I. He was, he was in studio. But here's the difference between the veteran coach, veteran coach Bill Belichick and the rookie. That's the morning show. And you could tell, I mean, Gerard, the eyes are puffy. The voice is groggy. He needs, he needs that variety pack. And he needs multiple boxes of fruit loops. I used to work with Gerard. He was that he was a mini a colleague of mine. We used to do a pre game show together, pre and post game show. And I know he's not a morning person. So, Gerard, when they said, when they put it in front of you today, hey, you want to, you want to do a radio show? Sure. Sure. We do a radio show. We need you to be in studio. Oh, yeah, no problem. They didn't tell him he had to get up at, you know, six 30 or whatever to go to the studio. I think he's already up. But being up and being radio ready, those are, as you know, Mike, doing a morning show, those two very different things. So, he's a little groggy. When he was finally awake later in the day, he did clarify that Jacobia's 100% the starter. That leads us to a segment that we officially call quarterback check, pull him or play him. Unofficially, we call it sit his ass down. In New England, is it time for the Patriots to sit his ass down? Oh, 100%. Yes, Mike. No one, no one should have to watch Jacobi Brissette anymore. This is cruel. This is some form of bullying that you've got to sit here and watch this, that fans have to watch Jacobi Brissette stand there and hold the football over and over. They are not a great team at times. I look at the Patriots offensive line and it reminds me of an expansion team. I'm not even joking. It's so bad. They can't block anybody. But still, Drake May, your number three overall pick, gives you a better chance of making an unexpected play than Brissette, who just, he doesn't want to make a mistake. So, he holds the ball, gets sacked, and then is lauded for being tough enough to give back up when he either makes a mistake or his line makes a mistake. Yeah, it's time to sit him down. Sit his ass down. Yeah, I mean, who does it punish more? Who does it bully more? The fans or Brissette? At some point become the equivalent of the kid who was caught smoking a cigarette, so he was forced to smoke the whole carton, right? I mean, it's at some point like, please, please let me go back to being the backup quarterback that I knew I would eventually be. And that's really the key here. When's Drake May going to be ready? When are they going to trust him to play? That has always been the vibe, Michael. And we're getting closer and closer to the point where as a practical matter, the Patriots are cooked, let's just let Drake May get reps now, so he's ready next year. That's all the more reason to do it. And when Mayo wasn't sleepy, and when he wasn't in studio, he said weeks ago that Jacoby was outplayed by Drake May in training camp, but he still gave the job to Brissette. So that was weeks ago, and you're hearing these reports that May looks better in practice. I think it's time. And against Miami, it would make all the sense of the world. Against Miami at home, you're one in three, you have no, you're averaging 13 points a game, go ahead and give the fan something to look forward to with the first round pick as your starter. Dolphins in disarray, short week, coming to town, win a ball game, build some confidence, maybe the best situation you're going to have all year to put May in a spot where he can feel good about himself going forward. All right. Pull him or play him. Cleveland edition, Deshawn Watson. What would you do? James Winston is there, not Joe Flacco, but James Winston is there. Would you sit what Watson down for Winston? Okay, Mike, I would sit him down. I would sit him down. I think a lot of Cleveland Brown fans would say sit Deshawn Watson down. But if you're Andrew Berry, if you're Kevin Stafanski, oh, if you do that, now you're opening up all sorts of things. You're not just making a decision for the 2024 season. You're pretty much tying yourself to Deshawn Watson. And when he leaves, you're going to leave too, because you were part of the duo. That duo said, yes, we're going to do it. We're going to guarantee the contract. This makes sense. We're going to give up multiple first round picks. Deshawn Watson is going to be the guy. Not only is he going to be the guy on the field, yeah, he's the guy. We invited all types of public scrutiny, public relations disasters by saying we want to trade for him. And he hasn't done the job. As a matter of fact, if you didn't have all that stuff attached to it, I think he would have sat already. If he didn't have all those things attached to him, Joe Flacko would be back as the backup quarterback. And you would have sat Deshawn Watson, who is just not a good quarterback anymore. He's not a good quarterback. Yeah, I think what would have happened at best for Watson, Flacko's back, and it's an open competition for the starting job. That's what would have happened. But you've got 92 million beyond this year that's tied to Watson. The worst trade and sign of the salary cap era. I'm not going to call it the worst trade ever, but you have to look at both components. What they gave up to get in three first round picks, plus three other draft picks for Watson and a late round pick back their way. The five year 46 million per year fully guaranteed, they can't get out of it. The only way they get out of it is if this lawsuit that was filed 22 days ago sparks a suspension. And if he didn't disclose to the Browns in writing before any of his various contracts that he signed with the team, that's when they could avoid his guarantees. Haven't heard much about that one lately, but that's their only way out of this. They're stuck. And at some point, Michael, they just have to say, and I don't know much about economics, but I understand what a sunk cost is. At some point, you just have to accept the fact that you're paying this guy and you don't make the situation any better by insisting on playing him. You're paying him one way or the other. Set that aside. That money's gone. It's not coming back. What do we do now? Do we put him on the bench? Do we cut him? What do we do? But we got to get somebody else on the football field. And I'd like to think they're getting closer and closer to that point. I'm curious. If you don't want to call this the worst trade ever, what is it? The Herschel Walker deal? Is that always number one? Nobody can take that thrown away from the Vikings? Because of what it did to the Vikings and what it did for the Cowboys. There was no win-win there. It was a disaster for the Vikings and it helped play the foundation for the Cowboys dynasty of the 90s. But cap era, this is the worst combination of I'm going to trade for a guy and I'm going to pay him because that's what we see happen. Trade him and pay him the combo of the contract and the trade terms, though I think we'll never see one worse. I mean, Russell Wilson was close, but not that close. Watson is the worst, maybe by far. All right, one more real quick. Gardner Minshew, versus Aiden O'Connell. And I know when Minshew won the job, my first reaction was, you know what he wins? He wins the first ticket to the bench because it's going to happen. Should it happen now? This is a tough one. Oh, this is a tough one because I don't love my options here. I'm going to say keep them. I'm going to say keep them. And it was so close. It is funny. We're talking about bad quarterbacks here or bad quarterbacking. If that play had stood up, the Deshawn Watson to Amari Cooper play, if that play had stood up, maybe the Browns win that game over the Raiders instead of losing by four. And in that case, you go to Aiden O'Connell. This is, this is a shelf life week to week expiration data on this one a week from today, October 8th. And we'll do it again. But I say for now, this week, Gardner Minshew keeps the job. And you know, we've spent some time today talking about teams who failed to have a competent backup quarterback behind an established starter. The Raiders failed to have an established starter. I mean, I don't know what they were thinking, but it's not working with Gardner Minshew and it probably won't work with Aiden O'Connell. All right, we're going to take a break. Robert Salah had to grab a bucket in a mop yesterday morning and he did anything to avoid being exiled to the Aaron Rodgers Island. We'll discuss that next up DFT line. Obviously, we're sloppy. A lot of priests in that penalties, we got to figure it out. Whether or not we're, we're good enough to handle all the, or ready to handle all the cadence, it cadence had not been an issue. All camp felt like our operation had been operating pretty good. Obviously, today, took a major step back. The cadence specifically, Robert said that might be something you guys have to dial back a little bit. Is that something you think could potentially help the situation? It's one way to do it. The other way is hold them accountable. I mean, we haven't had an issue. We've had one false start, Morgan had one false start, I believe, until this, so, you know, it's been a weapon. We use it every day in practice. You know, we rarely have a false start and to have, I don't know, five today, seem like, four or five. Yeah, it seems like an outlier. I don't know if we need to make mass changes based on, you know, kind of an outlier game. Aaron Rodgers making his point. Five false starts. Robert Salah. Robert Salah, be careful. Get a tip toe around the delicate genius lest you end up on the island. The island is fairly crowded. I've been living on the island for over a decade now. Rodgers' parents, siblings, and I'm not making light of it. It's true. I still haven't finished the Yono Connor book, but it's obvious. I think there's a chapter called The Island where people that he's related to or used to be friends with go. If you cross Aaron Rodgers, you have a problem. So, Robert Salah, as of Sunday, Michael, potentially had a problem because those two soundbites we just played, there's a disconnect there between the views on whether the cadence of Aaron Rodgers is a problem. I wonder if if Robert Salah, you know, gets called into Aaron Rodgers's office after his press conferences. What did you say? It's good, and it might be true. Let me just tell you. Yeah, I've been doing this for a long time, Robert. I've been doing this for a long time, and we're not going to change it, so you need to clean it up. But you're right, he has to be careful. He has to be careful around Aaron Rodgers because it's clear that Rodgers controls this organization more than Salah does. He's more secure than Salah is, and so it just seems like everything they do, everything they say, it's not quite a line the way Rodgers would want it to be. Going back to the clunky message that Salah delivered when Rodgers wasn't there. We talked about it. You know, mini-camp, it's mandatory. He'll be penalized, but it's not a big deal. We understand it was planned for a long time. It was important to him. I'm not mad about it, but I got to hold him accountable, and Rodgers didn't like the way he handled that either. So I just wonder, you know, where this is going, because I don't, yeah, Rodgers is right. Maybe it's an outlier situation with the false starts. I don't think this is an outlier game. This was Vance Joseph in the Bronco saying, "Okay, all right, that was nice what you did against the Patriots. They're not very good, but we're better, and we're going to ask you to do some things that we don't think you can do. Let's see how it looks, and the Jets weren't able to respond to it. I wonder what it's going to look like going forward when they win. Everything is cool, but I think this is going to be challenging for the Jets in the next few weeks. What defenses are going to throw at them?" It's not sustainable. It can't be MVP one week for Aaron Rodgers, AARP the next week for Aaron Rodgers. That can't work. There's got to be consistency, and so far there's been a couple of games where he's looked old, and they've lost, and in the games, especially the game against the Patriots, it worked. He looked like the recent back-to-back MVP, and it went well. However, after they had their meeting in Aaron Rodgers' office on Sunday, and somebody had to sit there with a dunce cap on in the corner for a while, and Aaron Rodgers maybe pointed out, "Hey, you're 20 and 35. I'm 150 and 77. I think I know what works." Robert Salah came out yesterday with the mop and bucket and cleaned up aisle five. Here's what he had to say about cadence on Monday. Yesterday I was mentioning operation. We're always going to push you on for local cadence, always, but with regards to operation, getting in and out of the huddle, getting to the line of scrimmage, the communication that's being had, those are all things that we can continue to look at and clean up, but from a cadence standpoint, that's part of what makes us who we are, and we're going to continue to always push you on the loop on that. So cadence is all part of operation, and the finishing line on the statement was operation, and our operation had been good up until yesterday. Obviously, there's things that showed up, and it's something that I think we can definitely get fixed. This is the problem with having a delicate genius in the building. You have to be very precise with your words, right? You can't say cadence if you're being operation, because if you say cadence, the delicate genius is going to be upset, and you could sense with the tap on the podium, there's kind of that, you know, I should know better, because I got a quarterback who listens to everything. I think he meant exactly what he said the first time, and I think he tried to clean it up. As you said, clean up on aisle five. He tried to clean it up and turn it into an exercise on semantics to a group of media people who deal with words all the time, and who are listening, who are hanging on each word, and they know these highly trained professionals, and they hear something. Oh, wait a minute. He just talked about the cadence he did. Let me go to Aaron Rogers. Well, Robert said this. What do you say? They got a story. It's 10 to 9. You lose it home to the Broncos, and you got a controversy. He meant what he said, and he's trying to turn it around. He should probably, going forward, say, look, that's Nathaniel. That's Nathaniel and Aaron. They'll handle that. I'm sure those guys will figure it out, whatever it is, because he can't say anything. He knows. He can't say anything about Aaron Rogers. That is mildly critical, because it will come back to bite him. And he had the demeanor of a guy who came out and said what he was told while he was in his boss's office on Sunday, he was going to say, and he did. At least he knew to do it. All right, from clean up on aisle five, to clean up on aisle 10. Do the dolphins have a Tyree kill problem? And if so, what are they going to do about it? That's next to your own PFT line. Late in last night's game, you might have noticed Tyree kill visibly upset with the way the game has gone, and for good reason. Things have not been, and see, he knows what to do. He's not talking to Mike McDaniel. He's talking behind him closely enough that McDaniel can hear him. See that? That's a smart move. That's a veteran move. I'm not going to go up and get in the coach's face, but I'm going to get just behind him so he knows I'm upset, Michael. And, you know, look, this is not what the dolphins expected. And all the concerns we articulated earlier in the show, not having a competent backup behind to us. Somebody can come in and run the same oven. Tyree has had to be thinking those things. The players have to be thinking those things. What are our leaders doing? We know we got a guy who's had concussions. How do we not have a better backup quarterback? Who in the hell is responsible for this mess? I'll do respect to Skylar Thompson and Snoop Huntling and Tim Boyle. We needed better if we were going to win games without two of us. So I can understand why he's upset. Yeah, I'm with him too. I'm on I'm on Tyree kill side here, and you're right, veteran move Mike with Tyree kill. Going behind, going behind Mike McDaniel, but then Wes Welker's there and he's kind of, hey, Wes, if you hear this, you relay what I said to McDaniel. There's Wes right there. So Wes is like, oh, no, let me get me out of this. I don't want to be a part of this rant. Let me move aside. But I understand what he's ranting about because we all look at it and you've got a weapon like Tyree kill. And you've got Jalen Waddle. You mean to tell me you can't do anything? You know, there's nothing and you've got Mike McDaniel who we've all praised as like a gifted offensive mind. You can't do anything to get those guys to ball. You can't. I'm talking about just putting the ball in Tyree kill's hands. There's no way that he should come out of a game with four receptions and seven targets. I'm sorry. I'm going to double those targets. I'm going to do everything I can to get Tyree kill the ball because that's my only chance. I cannot win with Tyler Huntley or or Skyler Thompson or Tim Boyle. I don't have the ability to put together sustained drives. I know those guys can't do it. So I need explosive plays and the only way to get explosive plays is to over target Hill and Waddle. Okay. A couple of things real quickly. If we can play that video, you might notice in the background Odell Beckham Jr. like three rows deep and the look on his face is that's been me before and I'm glad it's not me now. See him back there? I thought it's not me. I've been there and I've done that and I don't want to do it again. We need to hear from Mike McDaniel after the game. I don't know that Tyree kill spoke to reporters, but we found the McDaniel sound. Here's what he had to say about Tyree being visibly upset. I would expect him to be visibly upset at somebody. A lot of times guys can be yelling at he's a leader and he did not he wanted to do everything that he could to make sure the result wasn't that. And so there's within the locker room, there's a there's a lot of guys challenging each other and and we get an opportunity to see what we're made of for sure. Now here's the bottom line, Michael, and we've got the story up at PFT. I wrote it before I went to bed last night. I can already tell based on the numbers, it's going to be our most trafficked story of the day by far. People are already suggesting trade Tyree kill back to the chiefs. $48.1 million dead cap charge next year for the dolphins if they would do it. And how do you recoup everything you gave up to get him? They gave up five draft picks to get him. The chiefs aren't going to give that up. I know it's fun to talk about it and use about it. I don't see how in the world they come up with a deal that would send him back to Kansas City, even though Kansas City clearly has a need. No chance. No chance that the dolphins wouldn't do it. And I don't think I don't think Kansas City would either. Now his value is his value is diminished a bit, not because of who he is as a player, but because of the the financial impact of it. But still they don't have enough. Kansas City doesn't have enough. I don't think Kansas City has a desire to do that right now. They definitely number one, and he would definitely fill the void. But yeah, they'll look elsewhere if and when we get the news that Rishi Rice is definitely done for the year, which hasn't happened yet. But I have a feeling we'll hear it sooner rather than later. We're going to take a break. We'll wrap up this Tuesday edition of PFT Live right after this. Michael Parsons with the ankle injury suffered on Thursday night against the Giants. He reportedly was back in the locker room yesterday with a walking boot and like that scooter that you see for somebody who has a torn Achilles. So he's putting no weight on the ankle at all. He'll miss the this week's game against the Steelers. I don't I don't know. Look, I know he wants to play Michael, but hey that ankle it may take a while for it to heal. And if he's stubborn about it, it's only going to get aggravated and re aggravated and it's going to linger with him all year. Yeah, tough injury. And I am not I'm not and been impressed by the Dallas defense so far. I don't know about you. It's a critical position for him without Michael Parsons. Is there a lot to fear on the Cowboys defense? I don't think so. And I would not come back if I'm Michael Parsons is home a hundred percent. He's only getting three million this year. He hasn't gotten a second contract. That's another point too. We're out of time though. Go have your cereal. Have a great day. Hey Fidelity. How can I remember to invest every month? With the Fidelity app, you can choose a schedule and set up recurring investments in stocks and ETFs. Oh, that sounds easier than I thought. You got this. Yeah, I do. Now where did I put my keys? You will find them where you left them. 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