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You're dry, you resolve, your incredible career as a football icon. No, that's me. Stream the biggest college football games. No satellite dish. Visit directtv.com. [INTERPOSING VOICES] That's Smiley Kaufman for 61. Wow. I'm Smiley Kaufman, and this is The Smiley Show. Welcome back to another episode of The Smiley Show. I'm Charlie Hume. He is Smiley Kaufman. And Smiley, we have an episode today that continues to kind of wrap up the President's Cup. But I was thinking about this last night. It feels like where we are in the golf season is a little bit like the Sunday scaries. Like President's Cup was like Sunday brunch. And now we're going for like a stroll in the park with some nice fall weather, which is like the glorious month of fall golf we get before it turns cold. But we're headed into the winter season where we don't have a ton of golf, like a high level pro golf to watch. We're about to not be able to play golf in many areas. Some places that's already happening. I'm feeling the Sunday scary vibes a little bit, buddy. Are you? Well, from a golf watching standpoint, I still am just, for whatever reason, Sunday morning, you know, after we get home from church, being able to turn on like the Dunhill. Oh, Dunhill. That I still am like hanging on to this, you know, the Irish Open Wentworth, Dunhill, finding a way post to a championship to get our guys playing in these events. That to me is such a sweet spot because I would 1,000% watch every single one of these because it finishes before football. Dunhill is, I love that tournament. And that one holds a special place in my heart because we talked about my granddad on the show. I guess it was about a week ago now. And one of my favorite stories of him playing golf was a year he played in the Dunhill. I think it was like a 70 or 75th birthday with Adam Scott. And he got butched to Caddy for him. Butch Harmon to Caddy for him is like a gift. And he and Adam loaded up the bag with bricks, which, you know, a week long. And he got the, it's like, Sam, what do you got in here? They unzip the thing. They've got bricks inside, just hilarious stuff. So I can't, that's a fun one to watch, looking forward to that one. And also, we kind of talked about the soft care and when we're going to talk about this, but there is an interesting pro am pairing there. Jamie Monahan, Yasser, I'll remind you, we were kind of kicking around some ideas here of like a match they could play. Maybe like a little hammer game, auto one downs, winner takes a one downs, 1,000 percent. I hope we get shot tracers for both of these two guys. See, to see how they fared, you know, see where these guys and nerves are at. Maybe that'll tell us where these negotiations are at, just based off of some of these shot tracers. I love that. I love that. It's, it's, I'm just glad they're playing. Glad they're getting together. Listen, we can talk about this a little bit more on, on Monday in our, in our episode, just recapping just the golf this week. But I really think this is, you can only see this as a positive and for all the folks and saying, Hey, these discussions aren't going anywhere. Maybe they aren't, maybe they're not going as quickly as you would like. But this seems to me as the treaty of Dunhill and it's happening at St. Andrews, the home of God. - It's great. - Of Dunhill. I love it. The term is coined. I love this so much. If it, if indeed this, this proves to be the watershed moment, the treaty of Dunhill, we're using that. We're keeping that rolling. That is, that is what we have on tap this week. And we also have the Corn Fairy Tour Championship, which I got a nice little screenshot of a very young smiley cop and the 2015 champion that tournament with a lot of additional letters. - You want to show the YouTube audience? - Yeah, let's see this lettuce. - I mean, I'll leave it off. - First off, it's a tough situation of play better. This one really, this one got me, you know? You just got to play better to spell your name right. - Oh yeah, this is that lettuce. - Yeah, the, the, the S-M-I-L-I-E, that is lettuce. - That's, that's very weird that they got caught in that land on Spellcheck. You know, it's like you either go S-M-I-L-E-Y or you look it up and you spell S-M-Y-L-I-E. The fact that they went double I, that's like, I don't know what the equivalent of that is. Like, I'm a, I'm an IE Charlie. They're E-Y Charlie's out there. - Yes. - Charlie Cole. - Yes. - I don't know what the equivalent of that is in the Charlie's side, but very strange. - Very, very strange. And actually this is, I'm gonna tweet this right now. It's just, this is just a simple play better type of situation. - I love that, I love that. - Tweeting while we're podcasting. We are literally doing it all. - Multi-tasking. Today's episode is going to continue to wrap on the President's Cup and the reason why we're gonna do that is we have two great guests joining us who were in and around it this weekend at Royal Montreal. We have Willie Wilcox, Sungjae M's Caddy, to provide some of the insight on what it was like in that room and just some of the captain's decisions that we've talked about on this show. And we also have, I mean, the guy that, take away the players, take away the captain of these teams. This guy was probably the star of the Ryder Cup. Kevin Kizner joining us for a second time on this show to break down just so many different things. Broadcasting, his journey there, many of those moments shared with you this past year. Just team room moments, some incredible stories. Tarpsaw for Max Holm is whole out. He also in this interview discusses, he is in the resident of Aiken, South Carolina. He's still unable to get back home to Aiken because of just the current situation with Hurricane Alene. And I know that, you know, this for a lot of people, maybe this show is an escape from the realities of the real world and we, you know, of course hope to be that as much as we possibly can be. But I think it's important to talk about what's going on, at least, you know, and I appreciate the smile that you create in the space for me to do this and for us to do this on the show. Because this is, you know, we're experiencing a tragedy that is, you know, just on an unimaginable level. It's stuff that, it's on the level of Katrina, really. It looks like right now. Information is still coming out. It was difficult to get coverage of what's happening in Western North Carolina and a number of other places. And as more and more of that starts to come out, we're just finally understanding the sheer scale of this thing. My grandmother is from Asheville. A lot of the reasons why I'm sitting here today in Durham, North Carolina are a result of childhood visits to Western North Carolina, to many of the places that have been wiped off the map right now. We have someone close to the show, an integral part of a lot of our productions, who was there as a visitor and who was really one of the lucky ones to be able to get out, but not without a lot of harrowing, close encounters. And he, you know, he and I chatted for about a half hour yesterday. And the story he told was as riveting as it was horrifying, just the, you know, bartering for, you know, basic supplies with other people, you know, just martial law, a state of, you know, no phone service, no internet service, having to split up, you know, and be away from your family and them having no idea what you're doing is you're going down the mountain to kind of collect supplies, you know, things after dark with no lights that are just, you don't know what's going on. I just a truly. - Octolithic. - It's an apocalyptic picture that he painted for us. And you could see a lot of this on social media. Here in North Carolina, I've been lucky to have a lot of people here who have been great resources. We have a friend of ours who is three weeks away from delivering her own baby and who is a Duke nurse, who is packing up a car today and driving supplies out to the nearest drop point before the roads close to take all that stuff in. And she was sharing some stuff yesterday that I know a lot of you listen to the show and we share stories about being dads and family and things like that. There are reports there of linemen on the scene to repair the electric situation there, seeing naked kids running around asking for their parents, no idea where their parents are. And that to me, you know, thinking about what if that was Walker, what if that was Anna Carter, is just, it's an unimaginable heartbreaking scenario that is just, it's really hard to kind of reconcile that with the life you're currently leading the place you're currently sitting, a place of extreme privilege, you know, really to not have to go through that whole thing. So why are we laying all this out? Because if you can, if you can, you know, find whatever it is, if you're in North Carolina and you can bring supplies to various drop centers and donation centers and donate, if you're not in North Carolina or any of the other impacted places and you can donate money, there is, I think, part of the process that we've been trying to sort through in these days is how do you get help to a place where it's tough to get information on site because there isn't cell service because there isn't internet. We're gonna link a number of resources in both the YouTube description on this clip and also in the podcast description as well. But, you know, there are a few that have been passed on that I think are, you know, really doing the best to make an impact on site. The Community Foundation of Western North Carolina, belovedashville, belovedashville.com. There are a number of services that are air dropping in support, there's Operation AirDrop, which is operation-airdrop.com. There is manafoodbank.org. There are just, there are a ton of places like that Samaritan's Purse that have found inroads into this location and so it's hard to list all these things but what we'll do in this caption in this description is give you just some resources. You can take the time to go parse through those, see the one that kind of tugs your heartstrings the most and find a way to support, you know, those local organizations who are making the greatest impact on the ground. So, you know, again, apologies for beginning this episode a bit of a somber place but I mean, this is what is happening right now is, you know, everybody to these things that you can. If you can help out, any little bit helps in resolving this really humanitarian disaster that's happening in Western North Carolina and a number of other places right now in the Southeastern United States. - Yeah, very well put, Charlie. And our condolences go out, our prayers and, you know, for somebody who's also visited to that area, it's just, it's so sad to see the images. And I mean, some of them are just so powerful and terrifying that you just can't even fathom going through it yourself. For someone who, you know, Katrina being an LSU guy, you know, going to New Orleans so many times and in Baton Rouge, you just can't really ever take your mind to what these people are going through right now. So we again send our love to the folks in Western North Carolina, as well as the surrounding areas and hope that you'll also want to feel like to give back as well as, you know, I know Charlie and I are definitely going to find a way to make an impact here, so. - Absolutely, yeah. Check out the description of the podcast on the YouTube. And if you want to go on the YouTube, leave comments of other organizations you've found that are making impact there, that are near and dear to your heart, please do that. Like this is a group thing, you know, this show is a beautiful community. We've seen that manifest itself in a number of different ways. Let's find a way to come together and help out these people who are just deeply affected by this unimaginable tragedy. So we appreciate, you know, your assistance in doing that and reaching out to those people. So that we'll close that portion of the show, you know, understand that we continue to keep them in our thoughts and prayers. And tee up now, two really kind of fun conversations with Kevin Kiesner and Willie Wilcox, decided to kind of dig into these and get a little additional recap on the President's Cup. It'll be a lot of fun to kind of put a pin in that. And then, you know, for me, kind of move into the Sunday scaries, like the Sunday stroll. It's still some fun to be had on Sunday, but, you know, golf season, unfortunately, heading to a close. So enjoy these conversations with Kevin Kiesner and Willie Wilcox, and we'll talk to you on the other side. - All right, guys, welcome back. We got a reoccurring guest, Kevin Kiesner, back on the pod here to recap the President's Cup, maybe talk a little broadcasting in golf along the way. Kevin, where are you now? - I know you're from Aka, South Carolina, and I know you've probably seen a lot since you've been home from that hurricane devastation from Hawaii. Are you care to just give us an update on how those conditions and how tough it really has been in your area? - Well, I actually haven't been back to Aiken yet. I was told my area where my house is was probably the worst in Aiken as far as trees down, power lines down. So we'd probably be the last ones to get power. So my friends basically told me there was no point in coming there. My parents and in-laws were keeping my kids while we were in Montreal. So my parents brought them down to Kyo Island to my sister's house, and I just flew here from Montreal. So we're chilling here. It's Wednesday, I guess. So they're telling us maybe Friday or Saturday on power. - God, it's just insane. - It'll be insane, man. - We had to cancel our music festival for the foundation this weekend. So I've been working on that all day yesterday, trying to figure that out. - And that's a little bit of a mess. - Your foundation event, that was that going to be in Aiken? - Yeah, I was gonna be in Aiken on Friday night and Saturday, which we tried to figure out a way to do it, but it's just impossible trying to pull resources from the relief and using power when people don't have it. It's just a bad look. And we could have pulled it off, but it wasn't gonna be the product we wanted it to be. And so we're gonna do like a free event downtown, Aiken to have donations all going back to relief efforts. And hopefully people show up and donate. And my foundation is gonna run a big relief fund and try to get back directly to people. - And when will that be, Kevin? Will that still be Saturday night? So one of the guys that was gonna play at my festival is JoJo Herman from widespread panic. So him and Sam Holt, who's Michael Houser's guitar tech for years, are still gonna come to Aiken and put on a free show just for donation relief. - Wow. - JoJo's donating back his fee that we paid him to come to our big festival to the relief efforts. He's just driving down from Atlanta and we're gonna put it downtown Aiken. We're gonna put it for free. Encouraging people to bring non-perishable items. And then my foundation is set up a relief fund and we just put it live on the website. So my foundation website, kiznerfoundation.com, my executive director is gonna set up a pop-up for and a direct relief fund. So people can go straight to our site, donate to the relief fund. We're gonna literally hand out checks to people that request money that have lost power, lost homes, lost whatever, come to our office. She's gonna hand out checks from that relief fund next week. So, after Saturday night, we should see how much money we raise and then you just submit a request for funds through our website and come see us, man. We're happy to help the community. - Man, that's so cool. Thinking about just how great it is for these musicians, first off to donate, not only their their feedback, but also to give a live concert as well. Downtown Aiken for a time in which it's just very difficult for a lot of folks in that area, I imagine. So along with giving money back to the community as well, that's just incredible. I know you're a golfer, Kevin, but did you ever think in your wildest dreams that one day you just would be able to have such an impact outside of the golf course and in your community like this with being able to have a foundation that's been so successful? - Well, I'd say, first of all, I'm not sure I knew I was ever gonna be successful on the courses, I was. (laughing) I was grinding out on mini-tourts in the corn for a time. And then once I became more successful, I realized that everybody got to see how much money I made in the paper and the request to help was became more rapid. So starting the foundation was actually through the President's Cup, my first time. - Really? - When I was a parent, I was gonna make the President's Cup back then they used to give money to a player, to a charity of their choice for playing in the President's Cup and my agent advised me to start a foundation because the fee was large enough that you could have a, you know, start a sustainable foundation through it. And so I set that up in like 15 and made the President's Cup in 17 and used that fee to kind of catapult the foundation. - And your foundation, do y'all have certain pillars that y'all give back to and how much money do you think y'all have raised since you started that foundation? - Oh yeah, our three pillars are childhood education, health and participation in sports. And I bet we, I mean, we gave $5.3 million endowment with our last payment due in April of 25. And then probably another $1.5 million to the community to $2 million. So over $7.5 million for all of you giving back. - Round of applause to Mr. Kevin Kessner. And by the way, this is funny. So, you know, most of you guys know that Kess has done some broadcast work this year for NBC. You've seen him on him and I on Happy Hour. You've seen him as the main analyst for many of our events. But I kept calling you Kevin throughout the year. And then one time during our commercial break, you're like, you got to stop calling me Kevin. I don't know who you're talking to. And I just, it's just my brain. I just, I just like try to be more punctual to the audience because I feel like Kess is almost like so, it's so slang to me that I just feel like I'm just being not my broadcast self. So like I would catch myself saying Kevin too often. - What did you call Paul, Aisinger? Do you call him Paul or Zinger? - I would call him Paul, call him Zinger every now and then. I just, even with him, like I would try to say Paul every now and then because I kept on feeling like I was saying Zinger too much. - Well, every time you said Kevin, I would like, you know how when you have the headset on and you know it's your turn to talk, you'd say Kevin and nothing in my brain would click like, hey, time to talk. I'd be looking around and then Dan would kind of elbow me like, hey man, he's talking to you. I'm like, oh shit, that's right. - What'd you say, Smiley? - Exactly, exactly. So Kess, last time we spoke to you is right after the century, right after your first broadcasting experience at that century term and down in Kapolua. And you've had about four to six at bats. It feels like since with NBC. It seems like this would be a good time to just talk a little bit about what you liked, things that you felt like you improved on over the year, anything that intrigues you about broadcast, same moving forward, just kind of your overall experience to this point. - I guess from what I like is that the team feel of making a production, like everybody's kind of working together to press the viewer or create something that everybody wants to watch. I like that. I think there's plenty of room improvement. I think we need to step outside the box a little bit to engage the viewer more. And I think we're headed that direction with things like your show on Friday and two different analysts, whatever it may be, I think we need to keep coming up with creative stuff to make it more entertaining. I felt like the last two and a half hours of East Lake commercial free, it's just you run out of things to say, watching Scotty Sheffler walk down the fairway and how can I entertain the people that much longer? - Right, right. - And I think golf's kind of changing in a way where people wear untucked shirts and hats backwards and your order is to play golf and so we can kind of move with the movement too and the TV world that we don't have to be the same as it ever was, I guess is the best way to put it. - Are you saying you want to wear a backwards hat and some sunglasses and kind of put your feet up when you broadcast? Is that kind of what you're feeling? - Well, definitely not a damn coat and tie anymore. I've never played golf on a coat and tie. I don't know why we talk about golf on a coat and tie. (laughs) - Well, how about just real quickly, the tour championship? So I think being in the TV side and in that seat that you were on Sunday and you have a runaway for a bit, Colin kind of comes back, but then Scotty runs away. - For your perspective, how would you change it to where it would be more enticing and more engaging for the fans? - I think you got to get the players more involved. I think you got to get the guys that just finished to come back and offer their insight into what's going down the stretch, what these guys are thinking about, you and I played and I still played and we can talk about as much as possible, but you never really get the true perspective unless you get the guys that just walked off the course and we have to explain to these guys that were partners, right? Like TV, whenever I played my best, I always was annoyed when I got asked to be an interview or asked to go do this after the round. I think we really need to get in there with the players and be like, look dude, we're trying to make the best product available. You like playing for 20 million bucks. We like telling about it. Let's make this all a partnership and you got to come help us out more so than in the viewer likes it. And I think I could do that with you more than I can do that if you just be an honest. And I think if I ever got that job, I would implore Sam Flood or anybody at NBC to let you and I kind of run with being more involved with the players and getting their perspective. Like if you were in the locker room after you got done asking Rory McRoy or Xander Shoffley, what happens on 18 and how much pressure is he feeling 'cause Xander won it and all things like that. I think it's better perspective than me sitting up there talking about it and being able to do that and hit a golf shot in 10. He's better over here. AT&T customers switching to T-Mobile has never been easier. We'll pay off your existing phone and give you a new one free. All on America's largest 5G network. Visit tmobile.com/carrierfreedom to switch today. 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They seem to always want to talk about showing more shots, but you've been in that seat and you know how chaotic it is in the trucks and how difficult it is to show all of the shots. Can you just add a little perspective from what you've seen? - Well, those two points are perfect. I mean, whenever we call golf, I can't believe how fast we go shot and shot and shot. I feel like I can't even tell you what happened before Tommy's in my ear going 13 Roy McElroy. And I'm like, well, damn, I had a good story to say about Scotty Sheffler on the last shot, but I've started it and I had to stop 'cause we're going to the next one. And then from the commercial side, I always thought the same thing when I watch golf at home. I'm like, oh, here comes another commercial. And then when I'm calling golf, I'm like, can we please God go to commercial? Like, I got to take a leak and I only have 90 seconds to take a leak for the first time in two hours. And I've got to run out there to a portal and then run back, throw a headset on and have no clue what's going on. So what I would say is I welcome anyone to come in the booth when I'm working. The door is wide open. You can come in there and wear a headset and you tell me if you think we have two mean commercials. (laughing) - You don't have enough time to go take a leak. You don't have enough time to have a great PB&J from Miss Cathy with her famous chips on the side. I mean-- - Yeah, you can't even get it now. - You can't get it down. You got Dan Hicks with the PB&J over him in Hawaii. (laughing) Oh gosh, man, that's some great insight from that perspective 'cause it does move quickly on the broadcast side, especially for the first time you ever sit in that seat and those lights come on. You do your first on camera. All you talk about is you're on camera and what you're gonna say. And then it's over in 30 seconds, you're like, well, I don't know why I worried about that so long. - Total waste of time worrying about the on camera. My favorite on camera I did was in the players, Dan's like, hey, I'm gonna ask you one question here it is, you get prepared for it. I'm like, perfect. So we go on camera, I do the one question and then totally check out, dude. Like, you know, just kind of lean back in my seat and then he goes on and I'm not paying him one attention to what he says. And I guess he asked me another question. And I'm like, it goes like radio silent for two seconds and I look over at him and he elbows me and I just start ranting about who knows what. I don't even know what I said. I don't know what he asked, I don't know what I said. So like a week later, Tommy Roy calls me and goes, kids, I got a question, were you super nervous on your on camera at the players? And I was like, what? He goes, your second question like you didn't really make any sense. I go, that's 'cause I have no idea what he asked me. Still to this day, I don't know what he asked him. (laughs) - That is great. And the on camera is that first time you do it. It's, it could be a little like overwhelming. So it's funny that he asks you that too. But all right, so you got your USA hat still on. Let's get into this, this Preston's Cup kids 'cause you've been in the room as a player this time as a captain. Give us a little bit behind the curtain on, on Jim Furek, his process, you know, being a vice captain and what that role was for you. Because I think from my standpoint, as I've always wondered how pairings get made, how a team gets picked and how difficult that process really is. - Yeah, so my first perspective or what I look back on is, you know, when I first got the phone call from Jim when I was in the Canadian Open and I said, "Hell yeah." I never dreamed we would put as much time and effort and work into it that we did. Not that I didn't want to. I just was shot at how many hours we spent on the process. And from a second point of view, I've never dreamed how, I mean, I would want to be the same way, but like I was blown away how prepared Jim was. From every step of the way, you know, obviously he's had tons of experience and captaincy either as the head guy or assistant. But he like basically told us exactly what was going to happen from the get go of two weeks in advance. And he wanted the pairings to be set. He wanted the guys to know who they're going to play with, when they're going to go. We're not going to deviate from the plan no matter how it goes. This is what we want to do. And, you know, I'd give him a ton of credit because we walked in that room on Friday after getting hammered 05. And he's like, we're not going to panic. We're going to sit here. We've got a game plan. We're sticking to the game plan. We know exactly who we want to play and win and why. And I just love the way he was a captain and the guys really, really loved him. You know, they really jumped on it. He never was like a huge right-right guy. He made speeches, but they were concise and to the point they were really motivational. And I just, I love being a part of it. I thought it was really cool experience. A lot of time and effort, he uses those scout guys a ton and they were so helpful. Like we used to call them the nerds when I played. Like, oh, yeah, the nerds want me to play with Phil Mickelson again. And now I'm like, hey, what the hell do y'all send me some more info scouts? I need some more info. And I mean, to a tee, they basically nailed what the other team was going to do in the pairings every time. So we were always prepared. They would send out a list of what they liked in the next session, you know, while we're playing on the course to our phones. We're looking at that. We're commenting on this. Like while the guys are playing in the morning? Yeah, like Saturday morning, they're like, this is what we like for Saturday afternoon. And we're thinking, they're going to come back with this, this and this. This is where you need to go. These guys need to play last because of this. I mean, we obviously had already made our team. So the crazy thing is like, why don't Scotty Scheffler and Xander Schaffley play on the team, right? Well, now you're putting your two best players on a team, which makes your next best team weaker. Does that make sense? Yes, 100%. So we call them 10 man groups, eight man groups. I don't know why that balloon just went on. I just, I just saw a balloon. Wow. So we were, we were basing all our stuff on 10 man and eight man. And you want the five most solid groups in the 10 man. And you want the eight most solid groups. I mean, the four most solid groups in the eight man. So, so we were always trying to work on who needs rest, who needs to play, who needs to be in this section with the 10 man, the eight man. And then making sure guys had enough ample time in between rounds to on Saturday to get going. Saturday is the most brutal day. I can't imagine the Ryder Cup going 36, 36. Yeah, Saturday's brutal. We left the hotel at four AM and got home at nine, 30 or 10 at night and that fog delay too. That kind of just threw some guys off that morning. Just throws you out of your routine. So y'all finish, I guess you finished the morning round on Saturday and the pairings come out for Saturday afternoon. How shocked were you guys internally as the team captains to see the exact same team that went out in the morning for the international team go out for the afternoon? Well, we felt like they were trying to ride who they felt like were their horses. To be honest with you, it was pretty hectic because we had our lineup, Jim went to go do it because Jim has to leave during the match for Mike to go do the pairings. So it kind of leaves us out there on the course by ourselves and then they tried to pull some gamesmanship where Hideki was the last guy on the course but then they put him out first in the afternoon. So I screwed the, all the pairings up, the tour was scrambling. Each guy has to be allowed 30 minutes from the end of their match till they can tee off. So I felt like the tour kind of dropped, the tour officials kind of dropped the ball a little bit on that. It was a lot that the internationals did anything illegal but how they spaced the tee times out. Like Max Holman, Brian Harmon got to hit 12 balls because they basically moved them from third and moved them up based on where they were. So we get walking down the first hole and then Jim's, my match, I was with Scotty Scheffler and who was I with? No, I was a Zander and Tony that morning. They went on 16 and Jim's like get to the first tee, Max and Brian are about to go and they want you to go with them. So I was run over there to the first tee and Max's like, I hope he doesn't miss the green and having a chip all day because we got rushed to the first tee. So then there's like a 45 minute gap to the next group. So I'm like, that's what I was about to say. Made no, it felt like there was three sessions in the day. You know, I think if the tour I got to look back at it, they would agree that they could have done better but it all worked out for the good in the end. Yeah, and you mentioned Max Holman. So he on Sunday, hold out that first shot of the day, you and I did a just a quick little interview on the 11th hole. And if you watched the Soul Lime Cup, there was a fantastic celebration of the caddies after a whole out, they took their shirts off and Max Holman talked about it at the President's Cup and they're like, hey, if you hold out at the President's Cup, I'm taking my tarps off. And we eventually got to see your shirt come off, Giz. It was just a little too late. I was kind of hoping that you would have done it on the course, maybe like on the whatever green, just in celebration that you guys won the President's Cup, but it did happen. Well, I went, you know, I've been the 12th man out in the singles before and it's a lonely place when the cup's already secured 'cause all your teammates start partying over there on 15, 16, 17 and you're like back there on 10 by yourself and nobody's watching and nobody cares anymore. And so I left Russell Henley when he won on 16 and went straight to 10. And I was gonna run out in the fairway with my shirt off and tackle Max, but I got to 10 and there was nine people watching his group. So I was like, well, if I do it right now, nobody's gonna believe that I actually did it unless Max tells everyone. So I said, I'll just wait. And then, you know, I didn't think it was right to do it on 17 when he won his match. That's kind of fair. Yeah, I was like, that's a lot. So I got him up there at the media center and I blindsided out of him, so I still got him. All right, so the United States has won a million of these Presidents Cup. They've only lost one. So we all know how competitive it was. You can see international team, but the sentiment from just the golf audience, the people that want to change things feel like the Presidents Cup needs a different twist to make it more competitive. From your standpoint, after being involved this year and other Presidents Cups, gives you feel like there needs to be adjustments to the format for the Presidents Cup. No, I don't even see what adjustment could be made. You know, it's way closer than people think. We win by seven, but at some point on Sunday, it almost looked like we could lose the cup during the singles. So to that sentiment, I think, you know, they've kind of just got to a point where mentally, they're not sure if they can win. And I think if they were blessed out and win one, they could possibly go on a run of beating us. But I just love the way that our guys keep the pedal down. You know, they don't want to be the first team to lose the streak and, you know, and get sketchy out there. You don't, you know, - But singles for sure, man. - Yeah, especially like even after Friday, we're like, man, we were feeling so good on Thursday. And now the sudden we feel like we got kicked in the teeth and we're not really sure how we're going to respond. And that's what I think fans lose that insight of how good the Americans are and how great they stepped up on Saturday and what kind of their backs against the wall, like Holy cow, man, you're now, you had to sing a big lead and all of a sudden it's zero, zero again. And you guys got to step up this morning at 7.02 a.m. after I had a bus for an hour at 4 a.m. Now go play good. - And Sunday morning, you and I, I should say Monday afternoon or Sunday afternoon, you and I went out with Scotty Sheffler and we get to that first green and you just were kind of walking up to the green. I was like, "Kiss, this guy's about to hold this bunker shot." - And sure enough, he flew it in the hole and I yelled back to you, "You're not that good, Smiley." (laughing) - It was so great, that never happens. So there's some of you around me that I could just go and tell him, it's like, "Hey, this is about to happen." And luckily I had an opportunity to set the shot up to where I did say that, "Hey, this could happen." But no, I was like, "No, Kiss, this is about to happen." - He's gonna make this with KISS. And damn it, he didn't. - Damn it, he didn't. - It was fun watching him all week. I got, for some reason, Jim wanted me with him and Russell all week and man, we just kind of formed a bond. I literally watched him play practice round Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Walt was on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday afternoon. And then basically, Walt would both of them Sunday. So seven days of watching those two guys play golf. I mean, if I could pick two guys on the team that I would want to be as a pair and alternate shot at Bethpage Black, I'm picking those two. Russell hits it down the middle, Scotty gets irons, lasers, and wrecks can make the putts. It's a pretty impressive lineup. - Well, we've made it to the point now to where the team room, the celebration, you have any stories you want to share with us or do you feel like it needs to stay tight inside that room? I've seen a couple of videos leak out, but that's it. - One of my favorite parts of the celebration is you obviously get back to the team room at the course. Everybody's partying, raising cane, dancing, music, but then you gotta pack all your stuff up, get it on a bus to get back to the hotel where the big party's gonna be. But the bus rides like a 45 minute drive. So you're kind of worried like, man. Is there a bathroom? - There's a bathroom, but you're also worried like the vibe's gonna go down, right? We gotta sit on a bus. Well, if anywhere was the biggest party, it was the bus and it was incredible because we basically had a DJ at the front of the bus where play a music full blast. We got police escorts. And at the very end, everybody gets to pick a song, right? And then you get up and sing it at the end. At the end, Jim Furyk picks, lose yourself by Eminem, puts this hood up and dances freestyle down the aisle and high-fives every person on the bus as we pull into the hotel. So what is it? - What is epic? That is epic. - What is epic? - That I think nothing else needs to be said. That is exactly what we need to end this interview. Lose yourself by Jim Furyk. Boy, do I need to see that music video with the hood up from Jim? Matt, gosh, that seemed like that was a great experience, man. And I'm happy for you. I know that's probably one of those things you never dreamt of being a vice-captain or involved with these things. But imagine what you do at once. It's probably got it on your mind moving forward on wanting to do it again. - I hope I never miss another one. Sure was fun. I love those team events. Obviously, I wanna play on them, but if I don't get the opportunity to play, I hope whoever the next captain is, looks my way. It sure is fun. It's a lot of work, but damn, I'll do it again anytime. - All right, kids. We'll be watching you on the golf course six. - Utah, next week, baby. - All right, all right. Utah, where else we playing? - Utah, Vegas, Mexico, Bermuda, Sea Island, all five. - All right. Let's go get us a dub this fall, why don't we? - Might as well, buddy. 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But I think I was like 19 and you were, you know, 13 or something and so yes, we go way back. - Yeah, for those of you guys that do not know Willie Wilcox, first off, he's a legend. Second off from Birmingham, Alabama. Also, a PGA tour player legend and now cadding for Sungjay M's. And of course, you're a legend, but Sungjay M, kind of takes it to another level. That dude is Sungjay M and it's been really fun to watch your progression, Willie, into cadding. But first, let's just start off with, if you could just give us your, your spark notes of your story. I think it would be really great place to start as we kind of get into what was an incredible presence cup last week. - Yeah, I played for your grandpa and at UAB. And I was just always a UAB guy, but grew up in the small town of Pell City East of Birmingham and ran with a little rough crowd, I would say. But so I had some weird hiccups in my career. But yes, anyways, I was just a small town guy, played on the PGA tour for four years. I played 73 events and it's amazing how it all went for me because I got paired with Sungjay when he was 19 years old in his first start in America. So I mean, into watching when final group, I finished fourth, he obviously won. And so, you know, at the end of my playing career when I was 30 in change and he was 19, I got paired with one of the, you know, I think a future whole famer. So now I work for him, but yeah, anyways. From, yeah, PGA tour player, turn, Katie. - Well, you know, I think everyone ends up, you know, like for you, for instance, Willie, like to land on your feet in a situation like this. I mean, if I would have told you however many years ago that you'd still be involved in the game of golf as a caddy or whatever it was, I mean, would you not just be thrilled looking back at where you were to where you're sitting right now? - Oh man, it's crazy. I, you know, now I'm getting to play in a professional golf tournament and I'm backing myself, which is way better than asking everybody for money. But yeah, yeah, every day it's hard to even wrap my head around how lucky I am and I've been able to fight through some low times and, you know, I didn't make anybody mad enough sure I wouldn't be welcomed back into the fraternity out there. So man, it's crazy, the experiences and I always thought of myself as more of a, I've always said, I'm a follower and not a leader, which is probably not, well, I mean, just people are who they are. And I always knew that. I was never like a front runner. I was like a guy that started the final round in 36th and then I'd sneak into an 18th. But I'm getting to watch the best players week in, week out, it's incredible. And yeah, I just, I can't believe how far I've come in two years of looping. And now with the signature events, I mean, I'm doing better than I was as a player. I know that. - Let's talk about that real quick because the adjustment from being a player to being a Caddy, I don't think it's as easy as it may seem. Now you do have the resume of knowing the golf courses, knowing how players like to play, what maybe Caddy said to you that you didn't like. But still you're working for Sungjaeem who I'd say, you know, when the conversation and you and I had together Denver, I was like, what's Sungjae like? You're like, I don't really know what he's like socially, but him and I just communicate just basic golf stuff and it seems to work. I mean, how has that adjustment been for you to learn how Willie Wilcox is not only gonna be a good player, but how is it gonna be a really good Caddy? - Just trying to be, well, I've been, I'm trying to be calm in the moment. Luckily, I was in the moment a few times as a player, but yeah, I just know you gotta be a bit of a, you gotta wear a lot of hats out there. You know, you gotta, the psychologist hat and, you know, just a cheerleader and just be a calm presence for these elite players. And I didn't always treat my Caddy as well as I should have, you know, when you're in that position and there's so much stress and there's money on the line and you've been working for this since you're a kid, you know, things get a little chippy. So when they do get chippy, I think having the experience that I have, I doesn't, it never feels personal. Like, he goes, what kind of crappy read was that? You know, I'm not like, don't test my 30 years of experience. You know, I don't go that direction. I go in this 30 second little clip right now in my life, I just need to get out of it. You know, I need to know how, well, I've figured out just how to calm him down and it's normally just by me pointing the finger at myself and saying like, that was a bad read, man, sorry, I messed up that wind, but yes, anyways, the years of playing professional golf helped me a ton to know that, you know, I'm in a subordinate role and I just have a lot of appreciation for how skilled he is. And yeah, just for whatever, like in my life and my day-to-day life, I'm a pretty kind of nervous nelly. But out there, I'm not. I really have the ability to just, really, the calmest I am is when I'm caddying for him. So. - Hey, that's a good quality to have there, Willie. - It is, it is. And you know, like players, like, I remember here in Keegan Bradley, when I won the PGA in '11, he just said, I got to that first tee of the playoff and I just felt this calm come over me. And, you know, I never got that as a player. I never felt a rush of calm, but I definitely feel it now, which is nice. And that's what he needs. So, yeah, he just needs somebody that's laid back. I'm not a lesser only laid back guy, but I am in that environment. - Well, I've seen you out there. You're doing an incredible job. And I guess, what was your first like, oh no moment as a caddy, where you totally dropped the ball? Like your first big screw up. Do you remember it? Wait, and was it with Sungjae? - No, I would say it was with long to a griffin before. I worked for him for five weeks on the West Coast that started 2023. And yeah, I mean, he was coming back from an injury and, you know, it was a club selection thing. But actually, you know what? I need to get rid of that. So about the sixth week, seventh week on caddy form, the 54 degree wedge wasn't in the bag. 45 minutes before we teed off in the first round of the Olympia field. So the BMW last year and the wedge was gone. That was the oh shit moment. - Do we know where it was? - I mean, well, the Olympia field just set up. You got a putting green over there and you got another one 300 that way and another 200 this way. And the rough was about that long. And we were working with the coach and he had a friend there. And there was like three or four people that were handling the wedges. And, you know, I thought I did my due diligence. But at that, now every day when we get to the locker room, you know, we go club check, club check. (laughing) So yeah, anyways, yeah, that was horrific. I ran into the club house. I got one built up and I came back out and I just honestly thought I was going to get fired. I didn't know what was going to happen. And then he could tell how stressed I was and upset I was. And then he just looked at me and he said, he said, "Willie, calm down, long course. "I won't meet 54." (laughing) It was awesome. It was like such a rush of-- - You know, this is some J, this one, Monto. This is such a-- - Yes, yeah. I'm just going into the Lontos story, but I realized losing some days 54. - That was definitely takes the game. - Yeah, that was a little bump. - Well, all right. So let's get into the President's Cup, right? So, you know, we just talked about like, you've seen some highs and you've seen some lows in your professional career, making all ace at the Players Championship at 17. It's still legendary. If you haven't seen that video, please go and check it out. But as, you know, walking into that team room and picking up that bag and just being in that atmosphere, Willie, can you just describe what this week was like for you as a person, as a former player, and now as a caddy? - Yeah, it was amazing 'cause it felt like what I would assume a rugby or soccer environment would be 'cause I was one of three. It was me, Paul Tesori and Brandon Parsons. We were the lone Americans in there. So, you really felt like you were South African or Australian and the way they were incorporating the names of the players. Sung Jay, Bloody Sung Jay. So they would play Sunday, Bloody Sung Day and everybody would go crazy. And then anyways, it was just so, I think the word is rockus. It just was such a cool team atmosphere. And I just, yeah, I mean, I never could have imagined how amazing it was. Just to be in a tornado of 50 people and you just going all around and it was long days and everything, but the camaraderie was, it is so different than a normal tournament. But to get to know everybody, I mean, you just get tossed into it and you become buddies with everybody. Or at least you try. And so, yeah, it was just absolutely incredible. And the amount of stuff we got in the swag. - In the swag, in the swag. - In that black and yellow color scheme, I think is better than the red, white and blue when it comes to attire. - There you go. - But, yeah, himself is reppin'. - That's right, that's right. So, yeah, dude, it was incredible and I still can't believe that it happened, I would say. - So going into the week, was there a sense of confidence from this group because you heard it a little bit in some of the pressers, the guys, some quiet confidence about the internationals, really having a shot at winning this president's cup. But then you go out and Thursday just goes completely opposite of the way you want it to get swept. So, from going into the week from after that Thursday round, what do you think the big difference was for the five and oh sweep heading into Friday? Just from what you saw early in the week on that Thursday and then that incredible Friday. - Yeah, I mean, that was the coolest day of my golf life. And I think a lot of the, well, I know the Canadians that were involved in it would echo that too. Whether some of the major champions or stuff would say it was in their top three or not, I don't know. But for me, it was in my top three. And, but yeah, there was a lot of great speeches. I mean, Adam Scott, Trevor, Mike, let's see, Bussy is one of the caddies. So, Adam Scott has two caddies and one of 'em's Greg and the other one's Bussy. He was the caddy, concierge, height man. So, there was a lot of great, like, Rudy moments it felt like. And it was just really, it was, so yeah, I mean, they knew anything could happen. And they knew, we were built this city. So, we were just repeating the same things all week. And I mean, all the matches were close in that first day too. It's not like anybody got routed. So, it's just like, hey, a couple of putts going on. This thing's in a flip. And then that happened. And, you know, Sanjay and Hideki ended up getting the most decisive win. - Oh, I was there watching you, man. It was, yeah. That, 'cause when y'all got to that six hole, you make birdie and then you birdie seven, eight, nine. And then at that point, after you birdie nine, that's when I started doing the math of, okay, how many under are they? How many birdies in a row have their been? And then you go birdie ten and you get that conceded very eight eleven. Then you birdie twelve, and the match is over. And I'm just trying to summarize what I just saw because it reminded me so much of the year before, Willie, where I was out watching Scotty's Chef from Brooks Kepkaloo's, I believe it was nine and seven to Victor Hovland and Luevigo Berg. Similar situation. I should be the, I think I'm the new black cat when it comes to, you know, if you need me to be at a match and somebody gets their, you know, absolutely, their rear end kicked, I'm the guy, barely. Yeah, he said, yeah, you're there in the big swings. It's crazy how the momentum shifts and you really just need a momentum shift in those events. I mean, especially if the guys are so good. So yeah, it was, I really think it was the raw raw speeches from Adam Scott and Mack Hughes actually did a great job. I mean, you see what people are really made of and like, you know, how eloquent they can be under pressure and the bus rides were just something I'll never forget. But yeah, anyways, there was some great, the camaraderie was so high and, I mean, it was just the coolest, coolest day ever. And, you know, I just can't believe they backed it up with another sweep. But yeah, I would say that the positivity that they showed after getting routed round one was really admirable. And, but everybody knew that they were playing fine and they're playing well. I mean, I'm just playing beautifully, but I think, you know, maybe they should have done the pairings a little different on Saturday. It doesn't matter. But I think you're not the only one that echoes that. It's interesting to hear you say that. So I'm just curious because you're in the room. Was there a little bit of confusion of why we're doing the exact same thing we did in the morning? No, because there was no time to even kind of figure out what was happening because we just went right back out. It was back 40 minutes, 40 minutes or something. But I definitely noticed some somber facial expressions on Minnaloo, J-Day and-- I saw the same thing you saw on that. That's what I wanted to get into. Just from, you know, I think we've just said that it appeared to me that Saturday afternoon that some of the players just ran out of just a little bit of gas. And the morning was so competitive, too, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And Adam Scott, he was talking about-- what did he mention that day? Sorry, let me try to think what he said. Oh, yeah. He says when you-- the elite players that are statistically superior, you know, it is important to arrest them at least once. Because he can tell from past years how flat he feels when he plays 100%. And then, you know, anyways, playing 80% of matches would have been very helpful to him in years past. And he was just kind of hoping he would get that arrest option. But, you know, didn't get it. So, yeah, I think it definitely affected their abilities. Because, I mean, someday I missed some greens with some wedges. So he didn't normally do that. And so, yeah, it was definitely a interesting decision. But, I mean, you know, a few people are equipped to take that big of a task on. And, I mean, it takes so much work for Mike. So, you know, it's what he decided to do. Yeah. All right, so you lose the President's Cup, but it's still everybody's thinking about how much fun that night was at the team room. Can you just give me the best story you got? Or just any just memories from that party that evening? Yeah, well, I played three games of pool against Ernie. That was really cool. Who won? He won, he won. And I actually kind of-- you know how many versions of pool there are? And he was stripes. I was solids. And I tried to play a combo off the stripe. And he was like, whoa, yeah, he called me. I thought it was just like free play. But, yeah, it was funny for it to get called out by Ernie. He was just like, what are you doing? I don't know. I don't know. He just doesn't know the Pell City rules, man. Exactly. Like I grew up playing in like a frigging garage or like a car port on something that you had to sweep the pollen off of. But, yeah, it was amazing. And Scotty and all the, oh, I'd say probably eight players came over to hang out with us. So it was just a big-- both teams came together, which was really neat. That's great. Yeah, it just showed-- it's just such a cool environment. It seemed like, to me, Hideki Matsiyama's cat, he was the MVP. That evening, it just appeared that way to me. Yeah, he's great. And he doesn't mind a cold drink to wind down. And he's just-- man, he's classic. And he's so engaging. And he just wants to be involved. And whereas Hideki's a little more reserved, so I think that we're really good for them, because he can kind of bring him into the party. Well, Willie, I think some of us have seen the videos of Sung J.M. He's got an impressive gangam style. How would you rate it? And was he a bit of a star, would you say, in the after party, as well as the team room with his dancing ability? Any time he broke the dance out, everybody stopped. That was amazing with his-- Time stopped. The way he gets everybody pumped up, and the anticipation. And he does a different starting move every time. One time he did a big jump and threw his hat on the ground. And let's see what else I can't remember. He did it three times. I'm just amazed how he can do that and hit the T-ball 300 down the middle, 330 down the middle. I mean, yeah, he was there for a good portion of the time. He's not like a drinker or anything. But dude, if Gangam style starts and he knows everybody wants to see it, then he'll break it out. And he was so different that week. And he's just such a great member of that team. Even though there's a language barrier with most players, he's still-- you can tell how much he loves it. I mean, him and Siwa and Tom, I swear, they were born to do that. Yeah, so it was fun to watch. It was fun to you to watch you this week as well, Willie. And so why don't you just give us on your way out what your expectations for Willie Wilcox as a professional golfer is going to be this week at the Animal Coast? Are we going to post-- I mean, are we thinking a win here? Are we thinking a top five? Where's the game at? You said you striped in the practice round. I did hit good. Yeah, I'm-- I got a good-- I've been watching the right shoulder in the way Sanjay's right shoulder moves. And I swear, I have tons of room on the way down. It feels awesome. So you got some nice way thoughts. Yeah, yeah, because I was always like a fast Twitch guy. So to watch him, it helps me load it. But anyways, it'll be nice to play. And I'm not like an actual professional golfer. I mean, I still have that tag. But to know that my lifestyle doesn't depend on it is going to be exciting. I think I'm going to finish in the money. There's 27 good players here. So solid enough. And so I really do think that I'm going to break par every day. Come on, Willie. Let's go. Hi, bro. Well, I know you're about to go see my boy Andrew Loop. Tell him I said, what's up? Thank you, Willie, for your time. And I look forward to seeing you this fall. Yeah, thanks for having me, Smiley. I appreciate it. All right, buddy, see you. Well, there you have it. Willie Wilcox and Kevin Kiesner, two of the best. Just a lot of fun stories from the President's Cup and Kiz, man, really a gym. This weekend, we're into the fall golf season on the tour. We got guys jockeying for position, Smiley for that next 10. We also have the Corn Fairy Tour Championship at Smiley. I'll say one of my favorite parts of the show last year was transitioning into the new year. We had on James Nitties looking. All these guys are going to come in. We had Jake Knapp and a number of others come out of that class that turned out to be guys who really enjoyed speaking with them watching on the tour this year. So we're going to recap that on Monday. Yes, I'm looking forward to recapping that. Unfortunately, all of these players should be playing in the fall and the PGA Tour. That's like my one big thing. I hope happens in the future is that the web.com finishes when the tour championship finishes, these 30 players, I want to get to know them this entire fall. But unfortunately, we don't get to see them until the Sony. That's my big beef. Currently with how the rookies can get fast tracked a little start faster in this PGA Tour calendar. But yes, to your point, looking forward to figuring out who these 30 guys are going to be as well as crowning another Sanderson Farms Championship. Is it going to be Mackenzie Hughes? Kind of like him this week. But the guy I really think is going to win. It's going to be Keith Mitchell. He's just right there on the edge. He's really close, short game continues to get better. He's long off the tee. You got to drive it long and straight out there, which Keith Mitchell can do. So that's my prediction. Places self into the Masters, kind of getting a little sea island thing going in the fall. We're just going to ride the sea island train. So I know this isn't a one and done, but I really like Keith Mitchell. And I think Mackenzie Hughes will be right there too. There you have it. Keith Mitchell, Mackenzie Hughes coming off the President's Cup. Smiley, I have a fridge delivery man in my door. All right. I have a wife who thinks we might need to head to the hospital soon. I might be doing the Monday show from the most uncomfortable chair in America. So that'll be great content. I got it cleared from the wife. We got to find a good time to do it. But we will try to deliver you some hospital dad share content. We appreciate everybody tuning in watching and listening. We'll be back here soon in some way, shape or form. Talk to you then. You know, I listened to this talk. It was really cool. All of our programs and subscribers. Make sure you like it from scratch. It's cool to see what you guys are doing. I know golf fans appreciate it, but we do too. So please keep it up. For all the good people of YouTube, like and subscribe. You guys have some good takes, so I'm happy to come on and shoot the-- Tito's handmade vodka had been mixed with its fair share of contents. 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Kevin Kisner & Willy Wilcox Presidents Cup Recap + Ways You Can Help Hurricane Helene Relief Efforts
Join Smylie Kaufman and Charlie Hulme on another episode of The Smylie Show! This week, they discuss the massive impact of Hurricane Helene on the Southeast U.S. and share ways you can help, before welcoming two of golf's most entertaining figures on the show. They're first joined by 4x PGA TOUR winner and Presidents Cup assistant captain Kevin Kisner, who discusses his first year broadcasting golf and recounts some USA team room highlights from Montreal. PGA TOUR pro-turned-caddie Willy Wilcox joins next to discuss his experience on the other side of the Presidents Cup, as he carries for Sungjae Im. Willy reflects on his journey from player to caddie, and details some of the International player reactions to decisions made by captain Mike Weir.
