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Jerry Carl talks about FEMA and Hurricane Response - Midday Mobile - Monday 10-07-24
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Glad to have you here on this Monday, and joining us in studio AL1's Congressman Cherry Carl. I'm putting you on the one, yeah, that one right there. That mic. Let's see how it sounds. "Hello, Sean. How about that?" "Hello, Congressman. It works good. Let me read quickly a couple of texts here before we get in our conversation, and you're op-ed. It's up at Yellow Hammer News right now, and we'll talk about that." This Anderson from Foley said, "After Ivan, the only thing I got from FEMA was two FEMA tarps and two cases at MREs and some ice. I filed for FEMA assistance, got denied, lived under those two tarps for eight months until I could afford to pay for a new roof. I just bought the house for my private owner who financed my—because my credit was bad and was in the process of getting insurance when Ivan hit, so you know what you can do with FEMA." Now, B.D.A.R.C. says everybody needs zero dependence on the federal government to survive. Well, I agree with that one. And I agree, but that's not the situation. Over the weekend, commented of reading something with a New York perspective, and they were acting like the people that had a propane stove and a chainsaw, like they were some kind of preppers. I was like, "Hey, New York reported, you know that not just country folks realize the majority of suburbia. They got them a—they go camping. They got a camping stove, and they have a chainsaw. Those are the two things there." I was like, "That wouldn't like having your own heavy equipment." I mean, there's some questions in here, like Congressman, they're asking, "Are the hurricane victims going to be able to vote in time?" That's one of my concerns, truly, is a concern of mine. And FEMA has always had a history of making a big splash when they finally come in and doing very little. So we saw that with Sally, on here to Sally from Congressman Burns. And I said, "Many times, I feared FEMA when I did a hurricane," because there's a lot of wisdom in that because they do everything they can do to get in your way and try to get cleaned up. What about that? We hear these anecdotes, right, of people that are trying to—private citizens doing what they have a name for the group or not, what people do to help out. And I've heard anecdotes of FEMA getting in their way and telling them to stand down and stop doing that. I'm like every other red-blooded American in this country. I've tried to figure out a way to help those folks up there in North South Carolina and Tennessee. I've volunteered twice. I can't get my congressional calendar to match up to go up there and dig ditches or feed people or whatever I need to do. I'm sending money. I'm doing everything I can do. Everybody has to do that in a storm. We know that better than anybody. We are the first one in there with our chainsaws. We're getting our neighbors road cleaned out so they can get in there and hook power up. It's so often it's us, the people, it should be. We should be less dependent on government. We should be paying less taxes. They should be more responsible for how they're spending it. We've fine-asked FEMA before we left. We made sure their coffers were nice and full before we left. And now they're screaming they don't have money. Where did it go? Well, I'm going to ask you because, I mean, the house has the purse strings, y'all did the funding, FEMA's funding, and here's Mayork is talking the other day that we won't have money for the next storm. Typical Washington, they want more money, more money, more money. Whether they need it or not, they'll use it as an excuse to get more money. Then they'll turn on to use it all these illegal immigrants that are coming in. I'm furious about that. I mean, we've been fighting over in Baldwin County, you know, they're fighting in North and these are little like skirmishes and it's almost like a distraction on this election. And I feel that way. But all this money is just being poured out. I keep telling people, follow the money. Money is making a fortune off of this illegal immigration. It's not about just the votes. It's about the amount of money. Who's making money? Who is it? I would say it's the people that are setting the tent cities up. I would say it's the people that are the responders and they're told to go in and build a city overnight with a blank check and they do it. I mean, there's hundreds of ways to make money off of it. It's not just them and they're American businessmen. You know, if that's legal, they don't go to do it. You know, I'm not going to. I'm not going to judge based on that, but FEMA is just so unanchable for so many things. The federal government has become that way. And that's my frustration. You know, as a congressman, we get blank for everything, but it's impossible to keep up with everything. I mean, there is not that many hours in a month, much less a day for you to follow every one of these stories out. Right. And we're constantly doing it. I was on phone this morning. We're trying to wrap one up another little whisper going on. We're going to see what we can do about getting an answer for it. We'll spend three or four days of our time to get that one answer. It's frustrating. And back to the idea that you fund FEMA, appropriations are funded. They come out and say, "We're not going to have money for the next storm." Do they not realize that you get more than one hurricane? Shut the border down. Yeah. Stop the bleeding there. We'll use that money. We'll use that money on the next storm. You know, that's a great answer. It takes a lot more to do that. It takes an executive order. Yeah. So therefore it's not going to happen. Well, it's not going to happen because that's what we're dealing with. That's the people we're dealing with. You know, you've got a lot of Republican votes in these storm hit areas. I mean, I'm not a conspiracy theorist by no stretch of imagination, but I don't know how it's going to affect the election. Right. I truly don't. You've got ones getting ready to rip through the center of Florida. You know, there's a lot of Republicans in that district. I don't know how it's going to affect the election. I don't think they were crafted by the government by no means. I heard you talking about that earlier, but you know, how are we going to get those people to vote? I don't know. I mean, we've got to find a way for those folks to vote. They've got to have a voice in this next election. I don't know if there's any way to, I don't know, I don't know what that outreach looks like. I think that's going to be up to the States and the States will take care of that, hopefully. Let me take my favorite thing. And that is government overspending and deficit, right and debt. And look at it this way. When I hear this last week, the FEMA doesn't have the money for the next storm. And I look at all the things we fund and actually had a caller last week and I talk about it too, all the things that we fund that were borrowing money or sometimes printing money to have money for, right? So even, don't tell me we don't have the money. Even though I agreed that we have, they've misallocated it and it's going, I'm a hundred percent with you. My quick fix is, hey, y'all find money for things that, you know, you make money magically appear. Whether you borrow it, then borrow it this time, David. It's typical government. If you want it fixed, we need more money to hire more people to get it done. Instead of finding ways, if it was our business and we found ourselves in this situation, we would be looking for places to trim. We would be looking for things to stop, you know, cutting, cutting our, if it was our home, we'd be cutting off our TV services and we'd be doing something to make it up. That's correct. You've got to. But in the government, it's not that way. You get on TV and you start screaming, you know, the next one, we're not going to have money to take care of you. Fear. That's what government sells is fear. And that's where I get so frustrated at myself with some of my own colleagues. I want to sell you in fear. We are the Americans. We are, we are the backbone of this country. They can't do it without us. Who gets, but in, Mayork has in a roundabout way works for all of us. So. Mayork has says a joke. I've had dinner with him twice and I'm telling you, all he wants to talk about him and his father. Then you're gone. I mean, your job is to find the money. Don't come. Don't buy. Don't. You want to change this? You change the president. You got an office, folks. Well, we got. You want to change this? You take the Senate. You want to change this? You get out and you vote very, very more. You get out and you vote Dobson coming up here on November 5th. You get out and you vote those people in. We can fix this, but we got to have the right people in place to do it. And you're on page. You point out, said FEMA, which should have been fully prepared to support these communities, has completely failed its responsibilities because they spent $1.4 billion, $1.4 billion on illegal migrant programs, are now short on cash. And then you come in here and say, FEMA has been advertising online for different disaster assistance. The agency is giving to, quote, "qualified non-citizens," end quote. Yeah. So they're targeting what they consider to be weak communities and non-citizens being one of them. There is a page you can pull up. I don't have the website that it will tell non-citizens how to get help. And all these different communities that we live in now, they've spent millions on writing websites for this stuff. My focus, as I say FEMA, is you go where the most damage is done and fix your way out. Bingo. Yeah, and you don't worry about who's there or what's there. You go to it and you fix it and work your way out. Yeah, you know, the been chatter of the weekend and about this clip where FEMA people were in a discussion panel about equity, right, and it was for LGBTQ people and equity in storms. And then I went through, so I saw that. And I'll bet you money. There's a LGBT community on back of those chainsaws cutting into those homes. That's the thing that gets me. So I saw that clip. Much of the stuff gets rolled out just to get people riled up. So then I went through and I did my due diligence and went to the FEMA website. And sure enough, on the government website here, it said with a bunch of other stuff, say commissioned a comprehensive literature review on disaster displacement and impact on survivors to include marginalized communities and challenges for providing services to the most vulnerable. Okay. And this is under their disaster equity plan statement. In this case, what is marginalized and disadvantaged is like you just said, the person that's hurt worse. Don't come to if I'm there and my power is just out, but we're grilling and we're making do at the house, but my house is okay, then you pass me and go go to the people who lost their home first and get to me when you get those people fixed. I don't understand why we want to take communities and single them out that way. It's only for political reasons to do that because I cannot see my neighbor not stopping and helping me or me not stopping and helping my neighbor neighbor based on his sexuality. I mean, who can call? I don't care. What are they spending? We are in Washington. They live in this. Congressman, I mean, you work in there for us, but they live in this world in Washington that I don't get. I don't know of a single person after, you know, let's go from Frederick in my lifetime through Katrina, through Sally, through that care, so if they're getting the chainsaw out and clearing, they go, they don't go, well, we're going to clear because somebody's sexual. They don't give a damn. You guys got the tree card or a Democrat card before you cut that tree down off my house. Who's got the tree down? Let's go cut it off and get them out of it. And that they're spending time digging in the belly button. This administration, if you think about it and it goes back as far as Obama, I mean, they really focus on these issues. They try to use it as ways to drive us apart. You know, I've defended it. I've defended a lot of the Democrats in this district. The Democrats in this district do not match up with the Democrats in Washington now. And you know, we can all agree or disagree on that. And I'm a wholehearted Republican. I'm a vote Republican and I encourage everybody to vote Republican, but what we have in Washington right now is scary. And I deal with these people every day, every day. You talk about AOC like she's some type of goddess, no, she bleeds and just like every one of us do. I mean, she's got her weaknesses. And when she gets on camera, she's made his rattlesnite, but one on one with it, she's one of the nicest people you want to chit chat with. So, you know, two different personalities up there. We could come back one and talk more about this. Our guest, AL1's Congressman, Jerry Carl, our phone number in text line 3430106. We'll be right back. This is Midday Mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM Talk 1065. It's 122 FM Talk 1065 in Midday Mobile on this Monday. Glad to have you along. Check in with my buddy, David McCraery at LCM MotorCores. And he just talked about something during the news break with these hurricanes hitting. People start looking for cars, I guess the prices of cars go up when that happens. They do. We don't change our prices, but, you know, we're trying to figure out where to go buy some stuff because, you know, normally we go down south Florida and places like that, but we've got to be careful what we do, where we buy them at, even though we've got insurance to, you know, if something, we get something back and it was a flood vehicle, we can just give it back. We still have to be careful. So we're trying to figure out a place that we can go and buy some cars before the flood cars start getting out of there and getting to, you know, just burst to other states. So you're saying the time is now for people if they've been on the fence? I mean, luckily we've got a really good inventory and we didn't get this inventory because we're scared these hurricanes were coming. We just continue to try to keep our lot full and we've been really busy. So now is a great time to buy if you look at what business is doing, everybody's out here looking and buying. We've been steady. I can't complain. All right. Tell folks how to find you and check out that inventory. We're in Highway 90 and Plantation in Theodore. It's one mile south of ITN, it's at 15A, he gives us a call at 2513-750-0068, you can text that that number as well or you can just go to website, lcmuttercarge.com. Thanks, David. Hi, buddy. Have a good day. Hey, you too. Thanks, C.M., continue our conversation with AL1's Congressman Jerry Carl in studio. Reed is op-ed. It's over at Yellow Hammer News and this is entitled, "The Biden-Harris Administration Should Put Americans First." It doesn't seem, it does seem that way, but in an alternate universe, you shouldn't have to write that. No. I should be spending my time trying to solve other problems. Then saying, "Hey, why don't we take care of citizens first?" But I've been screaming about this for three and a half years. We all have, and the only way to change it, again, is election day. People have got to understand the power of a single vote. That power of that single vote started adding up quickly. We've got to change this administration because if Harris gets in there, you think it's bad today. You wait and you see what happens the next four years. If Harris gets in there, thank God I lost because I don't want to be up there in the middle of that mess. I want to read some text here. This text here is, let's see, he wants you to be, he said it was, "Mr. Carl, it's about what's actually happening there with FEMA." I mean, give me... The thing that's all about money is their budget. They want to spend 100 plus percent of their budget, so next year they can come back in and ask this for 120 percent more than they got last year, more budget, more people. The way government works and the way private business works is you show a profit at the end of the year. The way government works, you show a growth in your employee count. If you've got 100, and you've got 100 next year, you're not a successful department. If you have 100 and you have 130 next year, you're a successful department. It works just the opposite, just the opposite of what you and I live in, the world we live in. I've come up with some ideas on how we could change that, but I think that should be the same. Let me show you one right here. Somebody sent this to me. I have no idea. I'll say someone, and someone my staff sent it to me, and said, "It's just breaking the theme of relief fun." Last month spent $4 billion on COVID-19 aid. COVID-19. In 2024. Yes. This was last month. It was September, September 2024. We spent $4 billion. On the biggest fraud I've ever seen, I had $4 billion spent at one month on COVID. The very first person to tip me off is a man that's listening to this radio station. He's over the age of 65. He was getting two COVID kits for he and his wife, a total of four a month, every month when COVID started out. He got them for months, and they ordered them. They were shipping out all these COVID kits to every person over the age of 65. They were just being stacked up in their houses and their homes. Did we need them? Of course we didn't, but we didn't need to stockpile everybody with them. I'm telling you, you got to follow the money on these situations. There's not enough time to do that. You've got to get people in place and say, okay, you focus just on this. That's all I need you to focus on, Jerry Carl. You focus on this. That's all I need you to focus on, someone else. I mean, we've got to start, we've got to start chipping away like just like we do our businesses. Absolutely. Figure out where we're bleeding. Yeah. And Paul, I did see your text. Paul, I've talked about it several times. I don't have time afterwards to get into this. Paul said, I read over the weekend the average homeowner insurance premium is $11,000 in Florida. What's going to happen when two storms back to back in the insurance world for Florida and other coastal places, that's a whole nother conversation. I'm ready to see them. Like after Katrina said, we've got to pull out, we're not going to, you know, you'll see the insurance companies try to push some of the liability back on the government. It's like with a flood insurance. I had to explain that to a lady this morning. Flood insurance, you're paying a very small premium for coverage you probably don't need. But if the wind blows your roof off and your house fills up with water, that's flood. I know that was, I had to relearn stuff after Katrina, how they, hey, they talked about it. All right. The insurance has just shifted the liability to the government. I think we're going to have a lot more of those discussions come out of Florida afterwards. Otto said, the Dems want, said Mark by words, the Dems want tons of money for other things. And when the Republicans refuse to vote for all the add on stuff, the Democrats will call them heartless and not willing to help storm victims. Welcome to my world. And it happens every day. Charles Dexter here saying the Democrats are the very thing they accuse Trump of. They are the threat to democracy. I think there are some in power that do definitely fall on that category. Maxima says, not only are they funding the illegals, but they're also shoving a Democrat voting registration in their face. I'll have to think about that one. Michael says, yes, the Congressman, Congressman Carl, if FEMA contracts are being awarded based on DEI scores or based upon pricing and qualifications. I don't know. That's a good question for me to follow back up on. I'm going to get a clip of that if you would send it to me. I'm going to follow. Okay. Yeah. We'll do that. Yeah. And then I mean, here we go. I mean, there's a bunch more people talk about the insurance part. Listen, y'all know over the years I talk about this a bunch and I think we will be talking about this afterwards. So I'm not discounting those conversations because I'm into them. I was into them for what was being done here in Alabama after Katrina. We'll be having those going forward. But right now, the clear and present danger is a ton of Americans suffering, right? The death toll keeps going up. The death toll keeps going up and it's nauseating. But on top of that, the people suffering and we are focused, I know, on the recovery efforts in the mountains and those areas. But like I read the text earlier, this is a buddy of mine, he's a lineman. He's working in South Georgia and he's saying, Sean, I mean, he's a mobile boy like me. He's like, they got it so bad down here and there's been nobody even there. This is not some back-hauler in small towns, but it's, you know, normal Georgia. And they hadn't seen FEMA, they hadn't seen Red Cross, hadn't seen anybody there. Don't wait on the government. Do it. All right. Can you hang out? One more segment? All right. Coming back more with Jerry Call. This is Midday Mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM Talk 1065. Right, 135, FM Talk 1065 and Midday Mobile on this Monday. Glad to have you along. Check in with my friend Anna at Mobile Bay Coins and find jewelry. And, you know, wrong night and we get on and we just talk about fractional silver and platinum and yada yada. You know, you've heard us go on and on before, but a whole other part of what y'all do at Mobile Bay Coins is find jewelry and you are a master of that. Talk about why should somebody look to y'all to buy jewelry? Well, we have gorgeous pieces, unique pieces. You cannot find in box stores because I call those clone jewelry because they all look very similar to each other. When you come to us, one thing is you get a unique piece, might have even been an air lumen in the state. And second is the price because if you go to a big box store, they're going to charge your arm and a leg for these pieces when you can get them for a fraction of the cost here because we base everything based off, you know, gold value and wholesale value on stones. You got my attention there. So, somebody looking for those great, one of a kind jewelry items, how do they find you? We're a 2204 government street just west of Little Cloud type of school of church. All right. Anna, thank you. We'll talk soon. That was good. All right. There goes Anna at Mobile Bay Coins and find jewelry continuing the conversation for five six more minutes, maybe a little more with Congressman Jerry Carl in studio. I guess so many texts here about FEMA here and so he said FEMA is the acronym for Federal Employees Missing Again, but it's, you know, but I wonder, I mean, I treat my world like a triage list, right? We all do. It's Monday. What's the thing that needs to be addressed most and you work on through the week? Well, that's my question. That's the side show that is this disaster equity stuff. The equity to me should be, I don't have a damn what you do in your house and how much melanin you have or don't have and you're, I don't care how much damage did you have? If I'm FEMA, I have a heat map and I'm saying, where was it worst? We're hitting there first and then we're going to work out from there. So they're not going block by block because I'm fine. I don't have power, but I'm grilling out and we're just, you know, doing whatever. Then the person three miles away lost their home. Well, you got 82nd Airborne just south of there. Yeah. They could have had them there in a amount of hours. Now that would have had been worked out between the president and the governor before you send, you know, military forces into a state granted, but that can be done. We should had 82nd Air drop in there and start working those, those, those, those river systems down. I mean, they can mark those people that are passed away. They can mark the ones that are still alive. They can give them some, some fresh water and a candy bar and, and, and mark them and you have them picked up in a couple of hours. We could. So many things we could have done. We could have done. We should learn from all these. I mean, Sally, when I inherited that, that was all based on COVID. We had so many problems with kick. Can we tell? Can you tell that? You've told me before. Can we talk about that? We could not get the folks at FEMA would not come out of their homes. We could not get them in the offices and they would not come out of their homes because of COVID. Even though people in Sally had lost their homes and, and, and, and their life, that. They were wandering the streets. I mean, it was, it was the saddest thing I'd ever been. But FEMA says there was COVID protocol and then not being able to go. So, so I threw a fit and we did a conference call. I would ask about 30 seconds. I threw a stapler cross room. I threw something and because they were talking about laners and hangers, they hadn't had pictures of laners or hangers. I asked them what they were talking about. I don't know. They've told my boogers. I didn't know what they were talking about. laners are hangers, laners are hangers and that was a term they used for trees. And I told them I wanted warm bodies on the ground. And I threw an absolute fit and we got in a knockdown drag out. I'm, I'm shocked. A week later they showed up with two staff members. They sat in the middle of the auditorium and started working cases. That's how we got the whole thing moving. And I promise you, there's still cases over there open. There's still cases of Katrina. The government will outlive you. Yeah. They will outlive you. Yes. They, you know, that's what the veteran say about the VA system. They will outlive them. But you know, it gets frustrating now and then they start screaming, they need more money, they need more money, make them accountable. And I'm not on that committee. Do they, but you are, yes, you're not on that, but you are a member of Congress and y'all funded FEMA are we to believe that FEMA can't find them, even though they, like you said in your op ed, 1.4 billion spent on legal immigrants coming in. But they can't find there's no other pocket in that coat where they can find more money to number one, help the people affected by Halloween, let alone, we're looking at a, a monster storm fixing to hit Florida. You don't need $2 billion today to get started or you said four, they spent four billion last month on if you didn't hear that September, 2024. This is not, it's not 2021 or 20, 20, 24, four billion spent on COVID. Let me go back and check that out. I think that, I mean, just on COVID. So there, how about you stop that right now, you know, and, and, and if we don't, although somehow we seem to find a way to borrow and print money for everything else. So then go borrow and print it for this then, four billions, correct amount. So we don't need that to get started. Let's get started. The government's good for paying there. We will pay our bills, but, but FEMA's so caught up in bureaucracy and paperwork. I mean, these contractors that come in and clean up in behind them. I mean, they have to document, document, document, document. It's, I've seen them come in after these storms. It's a mess. They do as good a job as they can, but you're dealing with bureaucracy, you're dealing with people in Washington. It is a number. It's a name. It is not a person. It is not a city. It's a process. Reading this from Sean on the text line said, FEMA is a joke. I worked with them when I was in the Coast Guard during Katrina and other hurricanes. They don't have any kind of plan for anything. The Coast Guard should be running point on rescuing people and delivering relief supplies to remote or inaccessible areas, and also a lot of private companies are drifting big time off FEMA deployments. Bingo. There's your answer right there. Coast Guard down here, you know, we, we had, I know during Katrina, they were taking a special force, this guy's from Mobile and it was some of the local companies here that were, they wasn't, it wasn't a government agency taking them in port over there, dropping them off. They were, all they were doing was trying to secure the area. So it's, it's, it's, it's, it's just we the people. It's we the people. It is. We the people. And I would argue that anybody expects in 24 hours or 48 hours, if they're, if they're saying where's FEMA, FEMA can't get there in 48 hours. That's why. And just like so many people, you got to be self-reliant and listen, we, we have a merit, we used to have an American culture of self-reliance or helping your neighbor. Right. I don't care what flag they fly it. I mean, American flag, but I don't, I don't care if it's LGBTQ or what, I don't care. They're my neighbors. I'm going to help them. But then is it fair for Americans who pay taxes, they go into fund and FEMA and so many other things to expect that after, not 48 hours, yeah, you help, you've, but after a week, 10 days that there should be something bigger coming in to assist them with all the tax money that they've sent. Well, I promise you in 60 days, there'll be tractor trailer loads of ice sitting up there. No joke. Oh, this drives me crazy. Those trailers will be running for a year, keeping that ice frozen. I mean, you'll, you'll see a response that'll just be off the chart crazy, but they, they don't have a plan in advance. That's the true. I'm telling you, dropping that 82nd Air Board in there, the training we would, the, the value we would have gotten just, just from our troops and the information we could have swept that with, it just be so important. But you, you, you, you, that's where you start sending the politicians going, Oh, Lord, we can't have a bunch of military guys dropping in on top of us. How's that going to look? We look like we're taking the country over. I mean, I mean, Americans helping Americans. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But the politicians said, I won't let them do that. Well, okay. Then somebody will argue, uh, Posse Comatatus or something like that. Then you can, but you can use, let's say, same thing that happened to the border, right? Because well, we're going to send troops to the border. You can't do that because the Posse Comatatus, what you can do is have them come in and relieve, you know, like they did relieve border control of the other stuff that they had to do that wasn't actual enforcement action and give them more time. Listen, the communication systems that could come in with the military to set up, to get people. I mean, right now we have private, we have Elon Musk coming in with Starlink and I don't have a 300 and maybe hopefully it's going to be 300,000, but these devices get people back online. Uh, but we have, you know, I'm looking at the congressman who said on the board, I'm just guessing we have communication systems we could set up to put, put people back in touch in those. That's stuff that would blow your mind as far as communication skills, but we have to, we have to put those people in the right place, 82nd area born or the right people. They are the people that are designed to do that. And Bob says, Sean, First and Secret Service has been exposed now, again, FEMA has exposed. Do you see a pattern here? Our government is joke. Damn, I'm seeing red, let's help these people. Exactly. And how you do it? Look at, look at your local churches, they're going to be hauling food and water up there. Donate some money to them. Some local churches, people that you, you, you know, and we've talked about there like Samaritan's bars. I sent a check to him. My wife sent a check. We doubled up and didn't know what we were doing. That's fine. That's good. No, that's, that's a good, that's a great investment in this country. Just like they didn't wait. Yeah. Let's see, uh, uh, big arc side flag conference flag is a neighbor. Would you respect that conference flag? I don't know if that's like SEC or, you know, no, I think neighbors will. This whole, and it's the side story here. The side car, the problem is it will be forgotten, but the time they spent discussing how they're going to do equity during, you know what equity in the storm to me, and I'm just a citizen, is the person that said the families that had the most damage Americans, you help them first and then the next level, you help them second if they don't have food and they don't have water, you get them out and if they have shelter, help them secure it, help them, you know, it, it's, it's a simple chain and then you go back and do the clean up. Correct. I mean, that's, that's, no, it's not complicated, but, but, but, obviously it's too complicated for Washington. Well, the government as a whole likes to make themselves so, so powerful. You can't do it without them. They wait till the last minute to do anything and then they, they react. They don't respond. We should have people in, in office that respond to a situation, not react reacts when you get pushed in the corner and you have to do something. And that's what we're doing. These conversations, we're pushing FEMA into our corner. I'm telling you in two months, what, we'll have ice trucks sitting up there. We probably still have ice trucks from Frederick sitting in a cell mall on the airstrip up there. What we should do, of course, this is the bureaucracy is not do that. We should say, listen, we need this. They should have local contact just like your frustrate. I had Sheriff Lauvery on the other day and he, we were talking about the number of illegal immigrants that may come to, to our area and he, he said there was no phone number. He could call to find out and I said, when a sheriff, a member of Congress can't get on the phone and that's not changing policy. It's just like, Hey y'all, what's happening here? There should be some ability for county level for sure state level to be able to be on the phone with FEMA and say, I need this here. I don't need it over there. I need this other stuff over there. That sheriff is the most powerful elected official in the county at period. You can't do anything without him. And he can't, and he can't get the number and they won't give me the answers either just for the record. We're all calling them. We're, we're, we're trying to develop relationships with them just to get answers out of them. That's not yes or no. It's like, how many are coming so I can be ready? They can't tell you all that. We can't verify that any of you are coming. Oh, I before talking about the same story. Right. Yeah, but you should be able to, right? You should be able to call a line. You are representative for all of us in AO1. If a person started that story, it's kind of hard to verify. And I don't know if there is a person. I'm just saying it's kind of, you know, you, you've got to be the department of resettlement where you can call and say, we heard this. Is this true? Yes, it is. How many are coming? We know there's X amount are going to be flowing in under how many order in our area. I'm talking about that. That's where it gets split up. That's what I'm saying. It's usually 20 here, 20 there, 15 there. You know, even if I don't like it, you still have the responsibility to tell me if I'm in the leadership position. I think the governor's had this conversation with Biden more than once. We've all had this. I haven't had it with him directly, but I think she's had it directly with him. He doesn't have to do anything according to him. Okay. Again, you got to vote. Yeah. I remember what you do November 5th. And by the way, thank you, Terry. I mean, I think I was, I mean, I know I agree with what Terry's saying that was in my mind. We have said it incorrectly. When I said posse comatata, it's only applies to law enforcement duties, not disaster relief, but that's what they could be doing. If you wanted to have your local sheriff do in the, you know, looting patrol or whatever like that, you still could have the 82nd. Like Congressman says, come in and rescue people, haul water, you know, do all of those things. Marking. I mean, those guys are built for those mountain rugged countries. Yup. Terrain. You and I wouldn't last very long. No. Not at this point. Just being honest here. Yeah. It wouldn't make the cut there. Congressman, I appreciate your time with us today. Thank you for coming on. Please. Give me the soap. Take your eyes off the news storm. Yeah. I just, I don't have a good feeling about it. No. I'm trying to scare anybody. But let's be prepared. We don't want to go through this. We don't want to. How is it going to come out of anything but, but bad if right now we're being told and not for us here, but people in Florida, we can't handle what just happened. We're going to have to come together as Americans to do the best we can do. This worked pretty darn good, 200 plus years. All right. Congressman Jerry Carl, thank you for your time. Coming back, it's time for a checkup on FMTalk 10065. [Music]