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Full Mornings Show With Matt White 8/10/24
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We are here thanks to Host Plus as always and it's great to have your company on 11.70 am in Sydney. Wherever you tuned in on the SCN app, get in touch this morning. We are going to need you. And there's a lot of talking points for us to get through, but this is essentially a bit of a show with the difference. And we could do this now that the footy season in particular is wrapped up. You set the agenda. You can tell us what you want to talk about, what you don't want to talk about. That's probably the key this morning. We're going to take some things off the table this week. And I'll tell you why in just a second, a pretty gloomy start to this Tuesday in and around. Sydney showers are on the forecast and 19 degrees and it's got the feeling of a bit of storm activity as well. So we will push our focus further ahead because it's bath this week, folks. And coming up today, Will Brown will join me, the championship leader in the supercars. Winners at Sandown alongside with Scotty Pie and getting ready for the bath this 1000. So I'll dig into that in just a second. But of course, I want to know what you think about the kangaroos and the selections made official yesterday just as we went off air. So we've had time to digest it. It's pretty hard to argue with almost everything that's happened in this selection process because it's a weird part of the year. Injuries coming to play. It's been a while since Australia lost to New Zealand, 30 points to Neil. So how much of that team and squad announcement yesterday is a response to that loss because so much has happened since then, hasn't not. We've got eight debut taunts in there and just think of one in particular. When I say to you so much has happened, Zach Lomax is one of eight debut taunts. Now that's no great surprise, but think of the change around in what we saw from Zach Lomax throughout the course of the season. And here he is in the kangaroos Malmaningers squad. In of course, Isaiah Yo is captain, Will Dessert. No problems at all for that. However, out James Tedesco, Kalemponga doesn't get selected, Jake Treboevich isn't there, Daily Cherry Evans is not there. Now the halves, they're going in with Tom Deardon and Mitchell Moses. And they've got great cover in Matt Burton and Ben Hunt. So all of that makes sense, but of course there's always going to be people that miss out that you would consider unlucky. Teddy's always unlucky if he misses out because he's such a great player. Jake Treboevich, full of passion, such a great player. Daily Cherry Evans has been a stalwart, had a very good season, but do you pick him ahead of who they've gone with? And Kalemponga, how much of that drama did play out? We're unsure about that, but we have to, and I'm happy to, obviously, take Mal's word on that one and the selection panel. Because they view him as a specialist, full back. And they've gone with Dylan Edwards. Would you put Kalemponga ahead of Dylan if the Kalemp drama didn't happen? I'm not sure. Congratulations to Mitchell Moses, Tom Deardon, Lomax, Mitch Barnett, Reese Robson, Bradman Best, Xavier Coates, Lindsay Smith, as we told you about just before we went off here yesterday to debue for your country is a huge thing. And of course the campaign starts against Tonga in Brizzy, October 18th, so a week or two away. And then the Kiwi is the big one in Christchurch on October 27th. So how much do you think of what you saw from that team is a response to the 30-nil loss? And how much do you think has changed since then? Who is your unluckiest to miss out there? And who do you think absolutely forced their way into Malmaningers thinking? Give us a text on 0457736736 or give me your thoughts on our all-tell open line. And of course, Liv Kurnick has been dropped from the Gillaroos squad. And that's just a week after she won less than a week, after she won the Dally M medal in the NRLW. So the decision by Brad Donald there has certainly sent shockwaves. There's four debutants for the Gillaroos, but Liv Kurnick won't be there. Instead, Brad Donald has gone for Kesi Apps, Yasmin Clydesdale, Mahaliam Murphy as his second row options. And Liv scored a double in the Rooster's Grand Final when it was one of five incumbents to lose their jersey. So that's a little bit of a setup about what's happening in Rugby League. Of course, in the Fallout continues celebrations continue for the Panthers. They've got their awards night tonight. So there's still a lot bubbling around in the world of footy, but NRL's done a dusted. So what do you miss about footy already? And what don't you miss? What do we take off the table for the rest of the week? I don't know if we'll make it through the week on this discussion because things just come around and go around, especially in the world of Rugby League, but is there something that you want to take off the table when I get a text or I get a call or Coach K comes in and he wants to raise this. We go, that's it. We just shut it down. We can do that. We've got the flexibility right here. Now, there's been a lot of discussion around this Kane Corns situation emanating out of SCN in Melbourne. It makes great fodder. I'm happy to take it off the table. You know why I had my say on it yesterday? And my say is it's waffle. Take it off the table. Which means, of course, because you guys know how we operate here, it means we'll be talking about it. Hey, Panther Pete, you can kick us off this morning on the old cell open line. Good to hear your voice. Nice bright and early. What do you got? Map, you're on the back of Panthers winning in Pink. Maybe Coach K can pull up a photo for you of the San Diego Padres away uniform. I describe it as mustard brown in colour with baby blue yellow trimmies. And I thought, can someone else bring up the worst playing strip of a professional sporting team? Because that's got to be right up here. I just put it on the sports ears last night and I've done, wow, look at that. And if they go to the world series and play away, a lot more people will see it. There we go, Matt, that's a topic for you. First up, I'll be back. Okay, right out. Well, there you go. That won't beat your game, Matt. No, this is exactly what we want this morning. I want you guys to set the agenda this morning. We're in that period, folks. Thanks, Panther Pete. Appreciate it. We're in that period, folks, where footy comes to a screaming halt. Now, we've still got more representative footy to going. We've got cricket just around the corner and, of course, the T-20 Women's World Cup under way at the moment. So there's plenty going around and Bathurst. So Bathurst this weekend, so that's the big one. But in between, there's all sorts of stuff that we can open up to. Now, the San Diego Padres uniforms is now a topic of discussion. So this is how it's going to work. You raise them, we talk about them. I'm happy to go through this one, but I look, I don't think it's too bad at all. Kind of like the Hawthorne colors, Panther Pete. There's mostly Brown, a little bit of mustard. You know what else it looks like? It looks a bit like the New Zealand One Day International Uniform of World Series Cricket. Coach K is going to do Google search and burn it up this morning, looking for the images there. So I'll try and give you some insights into what I see. Maybe you've got something that resonates with you in terms of bad uniforms. A lot of them, actually, I reckon come from bad sponsorships quite often. Oh, four, five, seven, seven, three, six, seven, three, six. Now, it's is Bathurst weekend, as I mentioned, Will Brown will be joining me. So there's a couple of things that play here. One of them is Bathurst, no doubt. Everybody wants to win Bathurst. The other one is the championship. And at the moment, Will leads the championship by 189 points from Chas Mossden. He has been the benchmark performer of the season. He's had four race wins this season. They come off a win at Sandown, and they will be one of the favorites, along with his sister card, not his teammate for this one, but Brock Finney and Jamie Wingcup. They will be clear favorites, you reckon, going into Bathurst, and with good reason. So we'll catch up with Will Brown this morning, not too far away, and find out what's happening with the build-up to that. But I also want to give you some behind-the-scenes insights and get your best Bathurst memories. Before that, Paul and Brizzy is on the lie. Hey, Paul, good morning. Morning, Muddy. Happy Bathurst week. Just a quick one from the weekend. I don't know whether you saw it or not, but the playoff round of the NASCAR series involving Shane was at Talladega. The biggest, the fastest track on the calendar. I don't know whether you saw it or not, but there was a little while there that they were four wide. Now, at 180 mile an hour, within three or four feet, side by side, nose to tail, it makes it. It is unbelievable. I just sat there looking at it in awe. I love me motorsport. I love F1. I love supercars. I love speedway. I'm a motorsport nothing, mate. I'll take it all in. But to see these absolute insanity, four wide at 180 mile an hour on Talladega, just it blew my mind. I saw bits and pieces of it across the weekend, obviously, with footy going on. So I was keeping my eyes on it there, Paul. I know that I'll, mate, if he was there for the first time, he got a bang around in one of the safety cars. So that was his first occasion. And as you know, Diff has done it all and is an absolute legend. But the way that these guys take that banking at that speed, and the, oh, I was just watching a replay here of one of the crashes as well. And the slipstream, yeah, yeah, yeah, and the slipstream and everything that goes into it, mate. You know what it speaks to? It's funny. There's the pace, there's the visual excitement of it. There's the roar of this, you know, the cars themselves. There's the unbelievable ability to try and keep these cars stuck to the ground, because it is at high speed and it's on such a bank. It's crazy. The other part is that it raises these emotions, Paul. That's what I want to talk about this morning. The emotion of watching something like that is pretty unique because it's so unbelievable that they can do that at that kind of speed. So that's a good shout, mate. Thank you for that. Enjoy the rest of your day, and I hope you have a great bath this week. Make sure you stay tuned, mate. Will Brown's going to join me in about 45 minutes. Thank you, Paul. So what's on the table? What's off the table? Best bath this memories? I want to give you a few insights and take you behind the scenes. And I want to know what you want to know from what happens behind the scenes. Now, obviously, I've got massive exposure to a lot of motorsport, Formula One, supercars, some of the biggest bath this memories. I was lucky to be there. Of course, in call with Neil Crompton, the lap of the gods back in 2003. But what happens behind the scenes? What's the kind of stuff that you don't see that you're interested in? If at all, 1300 01 170, give us your best bath this memories. We've got a lot to cover, but you can see now it's an open book this morning. What do you want to take off the table? That might get us talking. And also, Panther Pete has set the stage for some pretty ugly, in his opinion, pretty ugly sporting uniforms. Let's do that this morning. It's 16 minutes after nine o'clock right here on SCN 1170 AM in Sydney. We're here thanks to Host Plus. Money magazine's best super fun for 2024. That's a plus. It's issued by Host Plus Proprioture Limited. And please check the PDS and TMD@hostplus.com.au. You can build great customer experiences with AllTell Contact Center outsourcing. The AllTell Open Line, 130 11170. Hey, Josh. Good morning, mate. Thanks for hanging on through the break there. Bathurst, you pumped? Yes, mate. I like the motor sports, but I've got a funny one. The first Bathurst I went to, I think I was like 19 or 20. I know LP won it. I can't remember what year it was. It's all a bit fuzzy. But we decided we're going to make Alex Chorona, and one of our mates didn't want to buy a ticket, so he decided he'd hide in the boot. So each hide into the boot, they could get in for free. And back then, you could drive up to the top of the mountain. Yep. And the little hut that you go on, it was good not to have any cars, but a bunch of young chaps decided to block the drive up there, and they wouldn't let you through unless you did a burnout. So our mates lit up the wheels on the Chorona, and the I'm waiting the boot is in their dying of all the burnt rubber and smoke. And I'm sitting on it wondering what's going on. Oh, it's crazy. Well, you had a choice of six years because Larry won it six times. So he's basically, well, he's equal with scale on the old time. He won it, remember he won it 82, 83, 84, and then he won in the 90s as well, 93, 95, 97. So it was one of those years, mate. What are they 93, I reckon? Yeah. (laughs) Times have changed now, Josh. Absolutely. But the race remains just as captivating, doesn't it? Yeah, it does. I even convinced the Mrs. Yeezy guy to move to Bappas, and that was purely sad that I didn't have to travel every year for the race, which was great because I could hear him warm up days. I could hear him tearing up the mountain, and I ended up getting a job volunteering up there for one of the races. That was awesome. I was on pit lane. (laughs) Well, mate, that's huge. That's massive. You've convinced your wife to move to Bappas, so you could be close to a sporting event. That might take the top of the tree for 2024. Thanks, Josh. Have a goodbye, mate. Enjoy this weekend. Obviously, you'll be watching, but don't forget, you can hear our call right here on SCN. I'll be calling it on Sunday. Paul Downbrill, former winner is going to join me as well, and Jimmy Smith will be with us, so we'll have full coverage on Sunday race day of the Bappas 1000. John, in parameters there. G'day, John. G'day, Matt. How are you, mate? Good, mate. Grand final, still ringing in our ears. Yes, mate, yeah. I just want to give you a couple of facts on this. The first thing, what the NRL always say, they're having the game late, 7.30, because of Channel 9's rating. All I can say is, what a load of garbage, because the ratings came out yesterday. The AFL, which, what, they start 3 or 3.30 or something, don't they? Roughly? Yeah, yeah. About 3.30. Yeah. They got 4.16 million viewers in the date point. Now, the NRL, 7.30, they say, yeah, we're going to start 7.30, because of the ratings. They didn't even get the 3 something million. So, how can they justify that? You know what, Tom, we've got the Pembrof League club. Have a rough guess. Oh, I wouldn't know, mate. You tell me. 1/4, 1/4, 30, Monday morning. Yeah, right. On the guy. Yeah. I mean, look, let me just tell you this. Let me just tell you this. The ratings part of it is just one part of the story, and within the ratings part, there are many other parts as well. So, you can break down ratings any which way you want, and you can compare it to AFL if you want to, but it's not a right comparison just by nature of the fact of when it's on, where it's on and how it's on. So, there was also video on demand. They call it BVOD. Those numbers were extremely high. So, streaming numbers were extremely high for the NRL. So, if it's an us versus then thing, you can look at the cold, hard numbers, and then you have a look at tradition, which is what the AFL lean into heavily with their afternoon grand final. That's why they do it that way. They're essentially spooked at the idea of moving it away from the traditional spot. So, why would you want to have it at night time if you are a broadcaster? Because that's where the real money comes from, John. It's just as simple as that. And guess who gets the most money out of the NRL, or to the NRL? Where does that come from? It comes from the broadcasters. So, I understand the frustration there that you don't get to the club until half-past 12. It's a 7.30 start. It's also a public holiday on Monday. You know, there's so many things to take into account. But, if you go in monetary terms, where's the biggest bang for your buck going to come from a broadcaster? Don't be fooled at all to think that Channel 7 are cool with an afternoon grand final just because it rates big numbers. They would prefer a night grand final. Because that's where you get the better outcome for your network. So, I know that's a convoluted sort of deep dive into the world of TV and ratings, but that's the reality of this situation. I guess the biggest thing for me, where does the best product come from? That's the question for me. Does the best product in the grand final come from the afternoon, or does the best product, and I hate to use that word as a sporting event, but that's what it is. Do we get the best product of an afternoon grand final, or do we get it at a nighttime grand final? That's probably where I would start. However, the reality tells you you've got to start with your bank balance. Thanks, John. Good on you, mate. Hopefully, that just sort of puts it into a little bit of perspective around that as well. So, I understand both sides of these arguments here, but it's not apples for apples. It's just not. The AFL has an absolute tie, traditional tie to that afternoon slot. And the NRL doesn't really have that. The NRL can move around. And it's different strokes for different blokes. Rob says, "Maddy, I've got many memories from Bathurst." The first thing that came to mind was J. Dubbed, Jamie Wingcup running out of fuel, and Chaz Moss did also coming from last to win it. The last few stints were action-packed with an unforgettable finish. Yeah. Also, Silverwater Tech, I'll get to yours in just a sec around Nazca. 0457736736 is the text line. Dan says, "The worst uniform was the Manly jersey they did for the X-Men movie." Oh, yeah. Yeah. Manly and Blue and Yellow just looked wrong. Yeah. Maddy Channel 7 stated they would get between 800,000 and a million more viewers if AFL was at nighttime. Yep. And also, you've got to remember where the ratings numbers really count for networks. Networks live in prime-time ratings numbers. That's where they make their moolah. So, the more prime-time viewers they can get, according to them, the better it is. Is that good or bad for the game? Not sure. A couple of shouts here of what we should take off the table. So, where was this one? 731 wants Jimmy to take Rooster's radio off the table. That would be appreciated. That's the sunny coast dragon. Somebody else said, "Let's take Bathurst off the table." It's a ball fest. Oh, look. I can't. Sorry. I know that I started the show and said, "We'll take anything off the table, but I can't do that." It's Bathurst week. I can't then invite the championship leader onto the program. One of your listeners wants to take it off the table because I have my big mouth and put that out there at the top of the show. Let's go to the 930 news. Thank you, Vanessa, 1-300-01-1170 is our open line number. Scotty Bailey from AAP Sports is on the line. Hey, Scott, good morning, mate. So, obviously, I'll get your thoughts on the world of footy, but you're heading out to Cricket Central. And there's some really interesting storylines as Sheffield Shield Season gets underway. Yeah. So, we go straight from rugby league to Cricket. It wasn't one day in between. But indeed, I mean, obviously, a few things look out for. I think the opening spot is still by far the most important. I think we know we have a pretty fair idea of what Australia is. Eleven will look like for the first test against India next month. It's more a matter of who opens the batting, whether it's these seasonals and kawajal or if Cameron Green provided he's fit and able to bat, which I expected will be, or even Travis Head is in that role. So, first round in the Sheffield Shield, start today. We will see, I guess, where Travis Head bats to South Australia. And as soon as the next half hour hour, depending on what this rain does, there's a very light drizzle on that. I don't know. That's a very light drizzle. So, we'll see what happens in the next few hours. Yeah. So, it is scheduled for a 10.30 start, isn't it? Yeah, 10.30 starts. They're talking half hours. Yep. And I guess, you know, whether the South Australia named their team. Batting order, whether Travis Head is at the top of the order, or whether we wait to see what South Australia do. They bat first. So, we could find out in the next hour whether Travis Head is pushing for an opening spot or we could find out tomorrow or Thursday. We'll see what happens. Okay. This comes down to one of my records going to be, you know, the biggest talking point, well, not the biggest, but one of the big talking points again for the summer of cricket, which is management and load management and trying to work out what players can do, which players can do, what really. We do know that Steven Smith won't be playing for New South Wales. So, his position in the test side, batting position, not position, but batting position is yet to be determined. But do you get that feel as well that it's really, you know, you almost get the feel, Scotty, that the most, the busiest people in cricket, state and national cricket at the moment are those with the spreadsheet that says, this guy can do that, this guy can't do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, also the three quick swing play for New South Wales and this match either. Usman Collage will play to Queen when today, but we saw he was rested a fair bit last summer before the first test. And that was more about, I don't know, so much workload management, but more just mental management, like given, he's getting it on and in age and, you know, probably just needs a bit of time. How much cricket he can commit to and wants to commit to at his age, I guess, if you know what I mean? Like, if he's going to play on, let's not have him spending nine months of the year playing cricket without a break. So, but also the fast bowls, that's certainly a factor. You know, Nathan Lyon will play today. He just loves playing cricket. I don't think she'll have much of a rest. But yeah, that is exactly right. But there is the capability for the test place to play up to four shield matches before the first test, which is the most we've seen in a long time. You know, Pat Kamen hasn't played, or Mitchell Stuckering, those guys haven't played really back-to-back or regular shield cricket through. He gets nine on five or six seasons now. So whether they actually do so this summer will be interesting to see. And I think, you know, it's pretty clear that the signal early on is they won't play a lot of it. Pat come into them and suggest it previously. He may not play in the door before the first test. So that is certainly something to watch over the next five or six weeks. All right. So 10-30 start for New South Wales. The South Australia cricket central down in Melbourne, it's Victoria and Tazzy. So same start time there. And over in Perth, it's WA, the Queensland, which will be a 1-30 start. Our time. Boy, there was some interesting news out of the kangaroos and jillaroos yesterday with the selections. Yeah, I'd say. I mean, I know we're all, the kangaroos caught everyone's attention. James left out the big one. Jake Treblewebi's daily cherry heavens. I can kind of, you know, I think we all thought once they can clear you was out of the kangaroos that daily cherry heavens would be the half back and quite possibly the captain. But, you know, I think Australia do have an eye towards that 2026 world cup. And, you know, I think there are fair questions over whether daily cherry heavens will still be playing Red Football in two years time. So, I'd no doubt that Wade into Melbourne is thinking. I think you're all just saying he was the best available half back. There's no question in my mind that daily cherry heavens is it. I know that Mitch Moses outgunned in the, in the set of origins of cider. But cherry heaven season was, I would say, this year and last year, it's been two of his best seasons in some time. He was certain of the daily amare. So, but, you know, if it was just on this year alone, I think daily cherry heavens had been the side. But obviously looking at long-term view, probably makes a bit of sense to look elsewhere. But that's why I had some of the most bewildering peaks I've seen in a national team in a long time. Like Olivia Kerneke, who was in Australia's team in their last match. It's not a matter of trying to force her way. She was in Australia's team. Yes, Greta, they lost that game to New Zealand. But since then, she has won the daily and medal. I thought she was best on ground in the grandfile. That is picked by Australian selectors. The Karina Mercy medal. They didn't pick her for that. And then the next day, the side, not to pick her for the Australian team. It's just, honestly something, it's a bizarre selection. And it will put some pressure you would think on. Australian selectors, if they aren't successful in this series, because, you know, if we're not, if the NROW is meant to be, you know, meant to mean something and meant to be, uh, hold the standing that the NRO tells us it does, then surely we are picking Australian teams out of it. This would be the equivalent of New Zealand not picking your own hues, or dropping your own hues for the specific championships. So, that's quite something. Jamie Chapman also dropped, or she was dropped because she was part of the team last summer round. She has had some hamstring issues, but they have picked her for the PMs 13 this week, so they're saying she's fit. She's just not picked. She was New South Wales best in origin this year. Um, that didn't have a great NROW campaign to be fair. I think she was hampered a bit by that hamstring injury. And Kelly Davis, who was Hawker of the Year, and won a promotion for the Sydney Roosters two days ago, also dropped from the Australian side system. It can be interesting selections, at least, in that jewelry theme. Absolutely. By the way, Stacey Jones has named his Kiwi squad eight debutants in there, of course, captain by James Fish. Harrison, one of your own views is in there. I'll run through that a little bit later. Um, I wondered if we were going to get through today without talking about the bunker, given that the season is finished, but there's still plenty of focus on the bunker after grand final. It's like, remember the old, was it the golden white or golden blue dressing? And people see what they want to see or what their eyes tell them, and they just won't display the technique. Oh, yes. This is exactly, I just feel like this is that all over again, isn't it? I mean, look, having seen the high definition, the 4K stuff, I'm comfortable the fact it wasn't a trie that it was an arm under there. But to mind what, what this really highlighted was the need to go back to. Generally, when we first started the bunker, Maddy, we used to see the split screens, and we could see things simultaneously, and it was what the bunker was seeing. And I understand that this one here is more a matter of 4K versus standard definition and what people are posting low rate stuff on the internet. But having the two videos side by side, I mean, able to look at them together, I think tells the story that it wasn't a trie. Um, and if I think that, I understand the broadcast has went away from that because it's sort of hard to pick up on a phone or it's, people are looking at four different boxes on a TV and doesn't look necessarily appealing to the eye. But I think that a lot of the criticism of the bunker is when people can't see what the bunker see. And if everyone could have seen that on Sunday night and seen the split views, maybe there's not the discourse that follows. And the problem is that, like, rugby league lovers, I mean, there's still plenty of rugby league lovers who are adamant that was a trie. But even just to the, you know, the average person from, let's say, the Melbourne fans, right, who have tuned in for Melbourne, watched their two hours of rugby league for the year and turned off. But they weren't, they walk away really angry and upset about that decision. And they're not seeing that, you know, the high-rope stuff the next night on the talk shows or, you know, instead of not searching for it. So I think it, you know, and they walk away disillusioned with the game. I think that really highlights the need that we should be seeing what the bunker sees and, and seeing the split views again, the simultaneous replays. I said that yesterday, Scotty, and I'm of a, of exactly the same opinion. I think that one way to clarify as much, much more than it is at the moment is to allow us to see what the decision is being made on, what the shot of the decision is being made on. So we can see plenty of angles. That's fine. We can make up our own minds. That's fine. But if there is a definitive, well, there is, there is because that's what the bunker has to do. That when the bunker makes a definitive call, that definitive call should be explained visually, because it's a visual medium. There's an interesting part from the commentary box, and I can speak from experience here. You're always told, try not to tell us something that we don't see. And whatever you do, you should never call for a replay because you don't know if it's there. So, you know, it's, it's a difficult position when you're in that commentary box, but you could hear, they were very strong about their views in the con box. And like I said yesterday, when Andrew Johnson co, say, I think that's a try, I always defer much more to the people that have been there than, than I ever had. However, they're not, they're not privy to all the angles as well. So I think it's short changing a lot of people. So I totally agree with that one. Now the path is they've got four, they've got four fingers full of rings. There's one more left that I make rings for a thumb. Well, they have to start making, I guess they could go to the other hand. That would be the other way to do it, pursue eight or ten premiership. But that was, it was funny the other night because the, the, the, I guess the motto that they had for this premiership was legacy. It wasn't quite as creative, shall we say, as top gun or, or undisputed with UFC builds. And Everest, they've had previously, but it was a pretty simple one around what the guys who are leaving, what legacy does this, do they leave? And what legacy does each individual have, you know, when they finish in the sport and what legacy does this Penriff team has. But the other message that came from a lot of players was, yes, we're talking about legacy, but we aren't finished yet. We still have more, we want more. This is addictive. We've still got more fingers to put rings on. So therefore, we want another one next year. It's interesting that, I, I, I, I walked away from those sheds the other night and walked away from that game. Feeling like that was a celebration from Penriff of four really good years. It's probably the first time I've walked away thinking that it was celebrating everything rather than just one premiership. And with James, so you have James, you share Harris leaving. I think you'll be the hardest one to replace Jerome and the light also sending it to Ruva. But, feature Harris and, and the white are two guys who have been the cornerstones of what Penriff have done in the last couple of years. I think someone described me as a, you know, described him as one of the architects of, of what Penriff achieved. And I think Penriff knows that it's going to be a lot more difficult next year without those two guys. Melbourneer, you know, won't lose anyone. Penriff lose those guys. They say they want five, no doubt. They do want five. But it just had a little bit of a feeling of this, this, this, the end about it the other night. I say that, but I've still also refused to tip against Penriff until I see them lose a big game. And they'll probably still be my favourites to win the comp next year. But there's no doubt it gets a bit harder, right? Just, you know, we always, we always talk about looking at another one, looking at another one. But I think it does get a little harder next year. But the other thing I'd say on it, that is, I think, I know everyone gets bored of seeing the same team win, but it's like, you know, a radius comparison to make, but it's like when you talk to your grandfather and they talk about watching Bradman back, or you talk to people who watch a drag inside the system in 60s and how incredible they were. In 10 or 20 years time, whether you're a Penriff fan or not, you, you will be saying, geez, that Penriff team were incredible. I was lucky to witness them. And they might have denied my team a couple of premises and they don't like it, but we're lucky to witness it. So I hope people do realise how special it is, what we're saying. Because what they've planned from effectively under 16, 10 years ago to what we're watching now is, is truly quite remarkable. Yep. Well said, mate. Enjoy the cricket today. Keep us posted. If you can, what happens out there at the, at the toss and the weather as well. Appreciate your time again. We'll do, mate. I'll message you to Coach Kate. Enjoy. Excellent. Thanks, mate. Scott Bailey from AOP Sports there. It's approaching quarter to 10. Don't forget to all tell your business outsourcing partner. Proud sponsors of The Morning Show right here on SEM13000117. Matt from Windsor says, big shout out to the Aussie team Jett and Hunter Lawrence in Kyle Webster, who won the motocross of Nations. It is a big deal and never been done before. Unbelievable result. Not sure if you spoke about it yesterday or not. I didn't get the chance to, Matt, but thank you for that. Obviously in the fallout from grand final. Mattie says, Steve, what I would like to see less of is all of us going the early Crow and early season success, whether that be a team or individual player. We tend to forget it's a long season. The teams and players, the people are lauding one minute can quickly be the ones they are criticising, says Steve, yes. We do move on very quickly, don't we? We do shout out very quickly. We move on very quickly. Short attention span. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. We just keep going. There's, was the Panthers try, first try, an actual try? Was it grounded? I have no problem with the best team on the day winning, but the bunker did not do a great job. The first try, yeah, no problems there. Morning, Matt. PVL wanting to sell off the NRL grand final to the highest bidder. If it happens to be Perth or New Zealand as the highest bidder, how happy are Channel 9 and Fox going to be with that? Well, Fox don't have rights to the grand final, um, live rights to the grand final. So it's all about Channel 9 when it comes to the GF plus the majority of NRL fans that are in New South Wales and Queensland. I can't really see it going anywhere. I think this is leverage at its best. And if you can use that leverage, why wouldn't you? He wouldn't be doing his job if he wouldn't, but I can't see it moving. Stranger things have happened and we didn't know, we would, we certainly didn't know when COVID came around that things would be changing and chopping like they were across all sports. Not suggesting that that's, you know, hopefully not around the corner for us here, but you have to be able to gain leverage and why wouldn't you be playing off other states if they're willing to at least have a conversation. It's the same with broadcasters. It's the same with everything. It's just competitive nature of business. Raft just says off the blue, the first turn at Easton Creek is awesome. Yep. I'd agree with that. It's also bloody scary. Raft. I did a bunch of laps out there in the Toyota 86 as in driving and it scared the life out of me. Will Brown's going to join me. What about the first turn and every other turn at Bathurst? That's 6.213 kilometer circuit around Mount Panorama. It's something very, very unique. So make sure you stick around. That's coming up in about 15 or 20 minutes. We'll track down Will from Red Bull and Pole Racing and get his thoughts leading into the Bathurst 1000. The Great Race as it's known. Mattie, I just want to ask if anyone has had a closer look at the kickoff that went out in the fall. I thought the catcher who had he's put out, well, it was Scotty Sorenson, lifted as he caught the ball when he lost balance. Have you seen anyone talk about this as I may have it completely wrong as I'm getting older? Says 178. We chatted about this yesterday and I went through the replay yesterday. Now it did catch my eye in the game and then in the wash of everything yesterday we took a while to get to it, but Bulldog Bob I think alerted us to it and I went back and had a closer, closer look. So I think there is some sort of, you know, millisecond doubt around that. I absolutely think there is a point of difference in there that could have gone the other way. And on frame by frame by frame, it looks as though exactly what you're speaking about. 1-300, 0-1, 11-70 is our open line number. Now back to that first try for the Panthers, Mattie have a closer look says Brendan in relation to that text that you just read out, "To river grounds the ball short of the line and slides over with the ball on his arm." I've only seen that once or twice on replay, but there's a pretty good argument that the ball was grounded over, wasn't grounded over the try line. I've just had another look at it and another and another and another and another and especially the front-on angle. I think you'll find that to river grounds the ball as he takes it down and lands actually on the try line. So I've got no problems with that whatsoever and have just gone through at angle by angle. 1-300, 0-1, 11-70 is my open line number. We'll take your calls after 10 o'clock. We've got cricket starting. We'll be chatting with Will Brown, the supercars championship leader. And Sugar's going to join me a little bit later for something special. The walk for Epilepsy 2024. So Joel Kane will be on the program a bit later on. Plus Simon Hill, the global game returns to SCN back after the new. The morning show is all thanks to Host Plus. You can open a pension account with Host Plus Money Magazine's best super fun for 2024. That's a plus, a very busy hour coming up. Will Brown, joining me soon, looking forward to that chat. Joel Kane, also on the list this hour, is going to be down there for the Epilepsy Foundation, which has an event on today, teams from local businesses are raising money by walking or running 25 kilometers on a treadmill. So I'm not sure if Sugar's going to join us on the treadmill, but that's all for walkforepilepsy.org.au. And as I mentioned, Simon Hill coming up a little bit later on this morning. Let's go to your calls at the top of this hour. Lloyd from Waterford is there. Hey Lloyd, good morning. Good morning, Marty. How are you? Good morning. I was going to talk about the Theresa Try again, but I heard from the text before that you cleared that one up. So I'll take your word on that one. Now, is that the game on the weekend? I traveled down from Brisbane. I'll start it off and say I am a storm supporter, so I am a little buyer. But the general feeling, like Penrose definitely outplayed Melbourne and deserved their win. However, there was a lot of rough infringement. It was very slow. I've played and watched the game for over 20 years now, and it was very, very slow and just a little 50/50 calls definitely seemed to go penrose way, like the Scotty Sorenson taken in to touch, the no-try we were in that corner. And to me, and I've heard Gordy, James Graham, other people talk about it, and I don't see how the bunker couldn't see that no, not one bit of blade or grass wouldn't have been touched by the ball. And similar to the Tarouza one, maybe if I have another look at it, like the angle you suggested that it might have got a blade or grass as it crossed over, like it doesn't take much. And I think they need to go back to the benefit of the doubt of the attacking team. Now, there's also, I think, stems from just the wrong calls throughout the year that get made and frustrate fans alike all year, and it's come down on the biggest day of the year. A lot of controversial calls. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I'd agree with all of that. I would say go back and have a look at that, Tarouza, one. Give me your thoughts. I mean, it's an opinion, obviously, but my opinion is that he lands on the line. The other one with the Jack Howthon, I mean, we've broken it down again and again. The point of impact that they made the ruling on, to me, once you see the other vision, the proper vision, the point of impact where we thought the bottom of the ball, so the pointy part of the ball that was coming down, we thought that was the one that hit the grass. And as I said yesterday, Lloyd, I think they've conclusively enough, shown that that part of the ball didn't hit, but it's inconclusive about whether another part of the ball hit the ground. Now, I would say Laura Physics, and I ain't no scientist, but Laura Physics would say that I'm pretty sure that some part of that ball mate would have hit the ground, but how do you know? Right. So they can only judge on what they see. Yeah. I did say that Coach K, that basically Ashcoin was also not in the best position to start off with. And like I was in that corner, the touch judge, they were all really slow to get there. And I cannot guarantee if it went up as a try, it would have came back as a try. And that's where I think they need to go back to that whole benefit of the doubt with the attacking team. And I think it'd clear up a lot of complaints, like if people, I think people could cop the benefit of the doubt call on most tries, especially with instructions as well. Mm. Maybe. Good on you, Lloyd. Thanks, mate. I really appreciate that call. Great to have you call up the program. Do it again. Steve and Warwick and Bill, we've spoken about the cricket getting underway, so we've got about 20 odd minutes before that state of origin season gets underway. Steve, morning to you. G'day, Matty. Hey, a couple of quick questions. The first one, how did Bathas lose the long weekend? Were they pushed out of it by the NRL? Did they make a decision to lose the long weekend as they date? The second one was revolved. Yeah. Sorry, let me try and think about how all that played out. You remember in '97, '98, there was the split, the war, you know, which led us to what is now as we know it's supercars, led us to V8 supercars, and led us to supercars as it is now. So we had two Bathas in '97, the two leader in the V8s, we had two Bathas in '98, there was the fight over the public holiday Monday around that time as well, and then it just eventuated that it ended up on that second week. So I think, I don't know if there was, I'll need to dig into my memory book, mate, but I don't know if there was like one definitive meeting where they said, let's go with this date and you go with that date. I think it's just kind of the way that it played out. Just like with, with rugby league landing on the long weekend, it just looks like they've kind of pushed supercars into the non-long weekend slot. Just, that's just pure optics from my point of view. Hey, second question, you thought you were talking earlier about Travis Head, where's you going to bat, bat at one, bat at four, bat at five? So my question though is, can cricket Australia stay up to Australia if he was bat at a number? Yes, they can, I'm sure they can, mate. I mean, you know, Travis Head's a cricket Australia contracted player, so these conversations do happen, I think we all know that, and the player would be at the centre of that as well, but if, you know, if you're coaching South Australia and Andrew McDonald or somebody from cricket Australia rings you up and says, listen, we want to have a look at Travis at number one or we don't really care at the moment as in, you know, we're happy for him just to have a hit. I think that overrides, I'm assuming that that would override and that conversation would take place. Okay. And lastly, if I can, mate, with Penrith and possibly, I think it's Wigan that might win the Pommie Championship this weekend, yeah, both wanted to play in Vegas. Are we trying to kill, are we trying to kill the World Championship off or should we just hold fire on naming the teams until we know who's going to be in the World Club Championship and just play the World Club Championship in Vegas every year? Possibly. Yeah, the World Club challenge, I know Vossi had a few things to say about that and I'll raise them soon, mate, but look, the World Club challenge had no challenge until Vegas came along. So I guess maybe, Steve, the real question is, what's more important to the game? You know what I mean? So, because once they work out what's more important, they'll then work out the priority of what comes first, but it's now a spanner in the works, the Vegas weekend. Yeah, I don't really have the answer to that one, but I'll raise what Vossi said, I'll do that in just a sec, mate, I've got to move on. Thank you, Steve. We'll keep our eyes on what's happening there with Sheffield Shield this morning. Richard in Melbourne, you've been kind enough to hold on to. G'day, Richard. Good day there, Mary. No problem. Well, yeah, long-time listener of you, Mary, your show, love it, and first-time caller to your show. I just wanted to say myself, my wife and I were at the game on Sunday, we had a great time, you know, so a massive event, obviously very disappointed after having such a great season to fall at the last hurdle, but that's how things go, I suppose, but hopefully next year we can come back and do it again. But I just wanted to say also, just to call out the Storm's Cloud of the Year Awards for Night at Crown Cristfino, which we're going to say, sorry, look, I'm very looking forward to that. Yeah, great. Who do you think would be Storm's Player of the Year? It's going to be hard to go past your own, isn't it? Well, I think it's going to be your own use, I think. Yeah, yeah. What an outstanding season. Yeah, I think because there was a survey put out a month or so ago, and it was up to the members too, because we are members, to make a call and we selected Jerome and he was in front by a long way at the time, so I'm assuming he'll get it. Yeah, well, the whole thing must be impressive, and it's just unfortunate we couldn't make it for last Sunday. Yeah, well, enjoy tonight, mate. You've got a lot to be thankful for for the season, and I think obviously you guys are approaching it that way as fans and almost pragmatic as well. Look, you win something, you lose some. I posed a question yesterday. Now, I don't know, it was almost the symmetry sort of grabbed me here about if you go back to 2020, and the storm beat Penrith and kind of triggers this Penrith revolution that is unbeaten over the last four years, and then the other night we get the Penrith Panthers beating the storm. Does that trigger a bit of a revolution for your guys? You never know, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. That's right. That's right. Yeah, I mean, look, we was hoping that we was going to bookend it, you know, by being the last one to beat Penrith and then the last one to win their dynasty. But in the end, yeah, that was too good, and yeah, we just hopefully got a dog in and see if we can get the chocolates. Yep. Good on you, mate. Thanks for giving us a call, and thanks for listening and really appreciate it. Yeah. Okay. Have a great night. It'll be a ripper there. Richard calling us from Melbourne. Got a bolt. Got to get to this breakers. We'll catch up with Will Brown on the other side. Well, for supercars fans, for motorsport fans in Australia, there is no other race, no other week, no other weekend like it, no other circuit like it. The Bathurst 1000 is coming up. We'll be calling it right here on SCN. As I mentioned, Paul Dunbrill will join me for the call on Sunday, so looking forward to it. Now, everything I've just said, not only goes for fans and spectators, but goes for drivers as well, including this man, the championship leader from Red Bull and Paul Racing is on the line. Will Brown. Good day, Will. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks for your time, mate. So you've arrived into Bathurst. What's the schedule? You just have a little cup and a little chill? Yeah, pretty casual. I flew down this morning, got in at eight o'clock and, yeah, just chill out for today, really. And we've got a sonic session that's super cheap this afternoon, which will be great, but really relaxed and just get ready for the big weekend coming up. Okay. What do you get ready because you and Scotty take the form from Sandown, which is winning form. Well done on that, mate. It was a great race to the end with you guys and your teammate Brock Feeney. So how do you now switch on forgetting everything right? Because as you well know, Bathurst means that you've got to have a lot of things fall your way. Oh, 100% Bathurst is the pinnacle of all events in Australian motorsport, but it is a tough one, there's so many things that get thrown at you. It's a long race, so anything can happen throughout it, but you've just got to prepare as best you can come here with the right mindset. We already shifted focus straight after Sandown. I was straight into, you know, how can we win Bathurst, but it is, I think, a little bit of luck to win Bathurst. You need a fast car, but there's a little bit of luck that needs to be on your side. Mmm. But above all, you do need a fast car. I reckon it's will a lot of people forget that, you know, it's a six-hour race, 161 laps, it goes forever. And you kind of take with all the strategy at play, co-drivers at play, fuel play, stops at play, you kind of forget the fact that racing is racing. And no matter what you need a fast car, you guys have got a fast car. You've been on the podium 15 times out of 19 races, you had four race wins. So where's the starting point for you when you roll out the car later this week? Is it trying to just get a feel for the thing? Where do you start pinning the tail on the donkey? Yeah, I think I've got a, you know, I've been quite lucky this year, joining such a good team in Red Bull and Pole Racing and my engineer, Andrew Edwards, you know, we've rolled out with a fast car. It's pretty much every event this year. And to get a podium at every event so far for the year is amazing and something we're really proud of. But yeah, it's a hard one. It's nerve-racking no matter what, you know, people are the drivers or people failure with Red Bull now, you know, you must go to an event and think, you know, you can win or get on the podium. But you never know, you roll up each weekend thinking, you know, do we have a fast car? Hopefully we can qualify in the top 10 and make the top 10 true down. And then hopefully we can do a good lap in that. But it's about not being complacent, not thinking that you've got the fastest car or all the best drivers in any way and preparing as best you can to try and make sure that, you know, I guess that we prepare better than anyone else and, you know, do the best job of the day. You don't have to look around too far in your garage to find the kind of experience that knows all about Bathurst and winning Bathurst. And I'm talking about Jamie Winkup, of course. Now, he'll be driving this weekend with Brock again. He's won this thing four times when you speak to drivers. And I know that you like to soak up information, Will. When you speak to drivers like Jamie, like Lowndes, he liked the others that have essentially tamed the mountain, what are you going in search of, I mean, is it a secret source or is it just a little bit of reassurance? Yeah, it's hard. Yeah, it's really hard to pick their brain. I guess it was a bit easier when you were younger because there was the basic stuff that you were trying to learn and all of that. Like they have so much experience, but it is hard to find that bit. You're always asking their ideas and previous experiences with them to see if you can find anything. Jamie has done an amazing job throughout his career, to be honest, it probably took me a few rounds this year until I started picking his brain and realised there's so much to learn from him. And yeah, I always try and get as much information off him as I can, and you'd be mad not to be with having him and our team. 100%. Now, on your team mate, Brock Feeney, so you're part and with Scotty, Brock's got J-Dub. What we've seen throughout the course of this year is that you guys aren't afraid to race each other. And now that's the benefit of being at a good team and a good car and being very good drivers, right? So you had a good battle at Sandoun, you had a ripping battle back at New Zealand. If I fast forward and crystal ball to the end of Sunday, and if it is you and Brock at the back end of that race, is it all systems go? Is that sort of the mentality in it Red Bull? Yeah, I'm not sure to be honest, it really depends on the situation and who's around and that. So there's different circumstances, but we try and the team try and let us race as much as we can. So it'll be interesting, I'd love to be in that situation on Sunday that we both race each other for the win. That'd be awesome for the team and for both of us, but there's a lot of water to fly under the bridge till then. But we've had some fantastic battles this year and kept it clean, so hopefully we can keep that up. All right. Just one more thing. One of our listeners, mate, I've seen a first hand, what you do in the downtime. Whilst race day is frantic and you'll do the bulk of the driving, obviously, there's a fair bit of downtime up there at Bathurst. You have practice, you have warm up, you have qualifying, hopefully you'll be in the shootout. But then the bits in between, you're a bit of an energiser bunny, you like to bounce around, you don't stop. So what's your plan to soak in that downtime? You go out to the little caravan, have a little sleep, how are you going to do it? Yeah, I feel like from a driver's point of view, there's no real downtime once the Bathurst week starts. If it's a team filling us up with media and sponsorship commitments in that downtime period or just general stuff like that, or you're looking at data with your engineer and going over race footage, there's really, yeah, I really find you wake up at 5.36 a.m. and finish at 8.00 or 9.00 each day at Bathurst, but that's what makes it such a great event. It's just so busy and it's cool to have so many fans out here. All right, thanks for your time this morning, mate. Enjoy the rest of the week, you're there, safe. That's part number one and enjoy the race, really looking forward to it. Congratulations on everything so far in the season, go get 'em. Thanks mate, appreciate it. There it is, Will Brown, Red Bull, Red Bull, Ampol, Racing, so coming off the win with Scott Pie at Sandown, and just let me put into perspective his season. So four race wins, including by the way we started the season at Bathurst in the 500, so we had the two races and he was on the podium with his second place on Saturday and then one on Sunday. So four race wins out of 19 races so far, but 15 of those 19 races, he's been on the podium. He's been there. In fact, the only time that he's been outside of the top 10 is once in those races where he had a bad weekend at Townsville, a bad Sunday it was. So he's had an extraordinary season, he's got a 189 point lead in the championship and they don't want to talk about championship, I just didn't get the chance to ask him there but they don't like talking about championship until after Bathurst. Well, guess what, on Monday it's going to be after Bathurst. So they will be talking about that title race. We've got 10 Bathurst 1000 winners in the field. There are six debutantes this season. The oldest driver in the race is Craig Lowndes. Now he'll be having his 31st Bathurst start. Think of that. The most starts all time, Belonger Jimmy Richards, 35, Peter Brock 32. So Lowndes he is not far off equalling his mentor. Of course, he's got seven Bathurst 1000 victories next to his name. And look out for Lowndes, not just because he's Lowndes, that's a big part of the reason. And just because it's Bathurst, that's a huge part of the reason. But also because of the kind of form, just reason, only one race but him and Cooper Murray finished top five at Sandown, Cooper's on debut here at Mount Panorama. He's 23 years of age, so he's got a 50 something and a 20 something in the same car. But the lessons that Cooper Murray will learn, who's a talent, the lessons that he will learn just from Sandown, just from this race weekend alone, they're money can't buy. That's the easiest way to put it. The most experienced pairings up there, Davey Reynolds and Warren Luff combined 39 starts and Mark Winterbottom and Michael Caruso 39 starts as well. And I did get a text here, Josh the Bricky says, been heading to Bathurst since I was a young fellow, best moment, lousy winning in '06 after Brocky left us. That was memorable. Josh says, we're heading up tomorrow to camp on the mountain, we'll have a good one mate and he says, "Mostat and Holdsworth for the win." Now, there's only one car in the field where both drivers have won the Bathurst 1000 and that is Car 25, Chasmostat and Lee Holdsworth, of course, they won together back in 2021 and Chasmostat in 2014, they're the only driver pairing where both drivers know what it's like to win the great race. So cannot wait for it and as I mentioned, you'll be hearing it right here on SCN on Sunday. Here's the news. Righto, let's take you into fitness first in this city at the moment for the Epilepsy Foundation. They've got an event on today and it's all part of the walk for Epilepsy 2024. You can go to walkforepilepsy.org.au, representing us out there is sugar, Joel Kane's on the line. Hello, mate. What's happening out there? Are they hitting the treadmills? I'm about to hit the treadmill, I've been loosening up the Hammies, Matty, but I'll tell you what, these numbers are pretty staggering. So you mentioned, if you want to get behind it, walkforepilepsy.org.au, you click on the fundraiser, our team's the Purple Partner 24, but there's 260,000 people right now. So if you think about Acoustadium, about three and a bit more times that, you see how many people right now are battling with Epilepsy. So it's 2025, it's a pretty decent number, who at some stage of their life will get it, but right now 260,000 people. Yeah, and when you think of that number, the one in 25, mate, that just shows you that somebody in our circle, somebody in your circle, somebody in my circle, more than often family circle, and it has happened with us that will be diagnosed with epilepsy in their lifetime. So like all great causes, money, money, money helps, and funds raised here will be donated to the development and the delivery of support services, education, training, the lotters will. So it's a pretty stunning number, really, isn't it, one in 25? Oh, well, you hear the many stories about Epilepsy, people have a swim, and that's happened so many times. Mate of mine, two mates of mine are driving down to Canberra, and they're doing about 110 kilometres, or whatever the speed limit was at the time, and one of them mates, the driver, has an epileptic city that's driving, and thankfully, the passenger, who's a very clever bloke, listed as a show that's far me in, was very, very swift and agile and found a way to rescue the situation, but very, very scary stuff, isn't it? Yeah, absolutely right. So what's the plan here? I know that they've got an option. So they've got the one in 25 challenge, so you can walk, run, or ride 100 Ks over 25 days. You're not going to be doing that, but you'll be hitting the treadmill, so the idea is 25 kilometres. What are you going to punch you out today? So we're going to team the fire, so we'll get five Ks done each, so I'm going to try and rip the B&A off, and haven't been doing a lot of work, and I do need to, I saw Bats before the other day at a function, he said, "Oh, geez, you've been in a good paddock." And I thought, "Okay, well, I'm definitely doing this challenge now. I'm going to try and run it all, Matty, which I should be able to do, but, yeah, let's see, the quicker you get it done, the quicker you're done, I suppose. So that's the plan. That's the plan. I'll tell you who's not doing it for me, Ian. The Great Cane Corns, the Great Cane Corns is up to it, just go back. I'll tell you what, hey, there'd be plenty of people if Cane did it, there'd be plenty of people going back and putting it on reverse, that thing to try and see him go the other way and hit the button, but are you going to do any incline? Here's the thing. Are you just going to go flat, or are you going to try and step it up? You just cut out there. You just say, "Am I going to do any decline?" Yeah, I'll probably do some decline, Matty. That's the plan. Just on Cane, let's just go back in really quickly, and I'll address this stuff, and I know you're one of the barks today in your show, but he said that our game wasn't closed, it was 14 points to 6, it's the equivalent of 80 points to 35. I know you can score 8 points in about 3 minutes in the interim. Can you score 45 points in 3 minutes in the AFL, Kenya? Holy dually. Like I said, Matt, waffle, waffle, waffle, waffle, that's all I heard. I heard that lala, that lala music right out. So main aim for you, get on, rip the band-aid off, get back into it, do not pull a hammy. What's the biggest chance for you to go first, hammy or calf? Oh, geez. But the treadmill is a bit more friendly for calves, for both, so I think I'm hoping to be okay, but I'm just going to channel my inner Mitch Kenny and Harry Grant, aptly named by the way, Kenny and Grant, who are Ironmen, Grant Kenny, if you get that. Those two blokes did not stop the whole game, so when things get a bit tough, which is probably at the 800 metre mark, I'm going to just bite the mouthguard down and just think of what Mitch Kenny achieved and what Harry Grant achieved on Sunday night. Righto. Go get him, mate. Thanks for your time. Righto, mate. Have a good show. See you, buddy. Yeah. There he is. Thank you. Joel Kane joining us. So the Epilepsy Foundation, that's what it's all about. Sugar's there representing us. There's a whole stack of local businesses raising money and just jumping on the treadmill. 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So two very early and cheap dismissals, Ashley Chandrissing gone for a duck after just four balls and Campbell Kellaway is the latest to go. So he's out four, which means Marcus Harris is at the crease, not out 16 and Peter Hanskin, the captain of the Victorian team is at the crease, not out two and they are two for 26. And the other match, which we'll be getting underway later is over in WA. And that's between Western Australia and Queensland. So that's a one 30 local time our start here, over four, five, seven, seven, three, six, seven, three, six. We'll catch up in our next hour with Simon Hill, the global games back tonight from eight o'clock with Alex Brosk, of course, the Aleg season getting underway. The passing of Johan Naskins announced this morning who was side by side with goose hitting during that incredible period of the FIFA World Cup for Australia back in 2006, which is when he was part of the coaching staff, former assistant coach of the Soccer Roo. So a beloved figure in the world of football and plenty of people are playing tribute to Johan this morning. So we'll do that in our next hour as well, plenty of time for your calls. As always, a bit of news around cost your zoo as well. So we'll cover off some boxing news. We continue to get great feedback in the world of motorsport and batheist. There is room for everything on this show. Whatever you want to talk about, we go your way. Some people are over, batheist, well, come on, it's batheist, it's batheist, it's batheist. Hido, by the way, says the scorer also didn't sell it that he scored. So Hido, I'm wondering whether you're thinking there about Jack Howth in that situation. That's all you've said. And it was a little bit earlier. So the scorer also didn't sell it that he scored. Great show. Thanks Hido. Maybe just let me know. I'm assuming you're talking about that one. And Steve says, I thought it was common knowledge that all Aussies pronounce it as batheist. Easiest said if you're missing a front two through story, says Steve. Ash says strange that the New South Wales for the Kangaroos, New South Wales origin captain wasn't selected. The last time I recall a steak captain getting snubbed was when the great Gavin Miller wasn't chosen to represent Australia after captaining New South Wales in all three games in the '89 series. Yeah, well, Queensland's captain, you can get selected either. Dope, Terry Evans was left out as well. So both there. Western Sydney Eagle just says, bring on batheist, no worries. Let me get to more of your texts. There's plenty there covering everything from bunker to batheist and everything in between. So I'll get to some of those. But if you want to give us a call now's the time to do it. We've got lines available on 1-300-01-1170. All thanks to all tell. This is the morning show here for host plus Money Magazine's best super fun for 2024. That's a plus issued by host plus proprietary limited. And please check the PDF and TMD@hostplus.com.au. Welcome back, our final hour of the program. So we will catch up with Simon Hill soon with the global game. Fascinating, I reckon, make or break. I'm probably not the way to put it, but a huge season ahead for the A-leagues. No doubt about it. 13 team competition. We get Auckland coming in. So we have Bill Foley's team coming in, Central Coast looking to do it all again. Got plenty of signings as well. So there's a couple of the things, probably three of the things that I want to raise with Simon there because the A-leagues just can't cop it. We all know that. But have a look at what they've got lining up here. I think there's a new team, obviously, in the system. I think there's 145, 140 new signings across the A-leg. It's been busy in the off season, which is what you want. Let's hope that they come out of the block. So we've got plenty to talk about with Simon Hill. That's coming up. 130, 111, 70 is our open line number. Storm Girl's there listening to us on the SCN app. I take it, Storm Girl. Good day. Hi, Matt. Yeah. Listen, every day down here, so it's good to get a lot of rugby league in a rugby league style state, usually. I just want to ask you, is the NRO making any noise to let us see the bunker footage that they're talking about, which they're saying is conclusively a no-try? Like, what, why can't we see that? Yes, exactly. Are you talking about the Jack Howarth one? Yeah, you can find it. Yeah. You can find it. And I was talking about this yesterday. Now, I've got a million pages open. Where did I watch it yesterday? I'm pretty sure it was on the NRO website. It was released. I might have found it on the Fox Sports website. But there is an angle that you will be able to find with a pretty quick Google search that I went through in detail yesterday on that part of the incident. So on that part of whether the ground, whether the ball was granted, you know, with the point and you're looking through, you're looking over the, the touch judge on the left hand side. You're essentially looking over his shoulder into the view of where the ball goes down. And you can see from the angle that they released, which is the super high definition angle that the, what appears to be the ball making contact with the ground is actually Jack Howarth's arm. So, are you convinced that at no stage of any part of that motion of a try, that not a blade of grass, grass is touched? Like, is that, are you convinced? No, I'm not convinced. Because I made it. Yeah, I'm not convinced at all, remember it was sent upstairs as a no try. I'm not convinced that that, that another part of the ball didn't touch the grass, but from what I saw initially and from what they made their decision based on, I'm convinced that it was underneath, that the arm was underneath. So like I've said before, you know, the law or physics will tell you that probably some part of that ball has touched the grass. But the part of the ball that they've got in view and the one that they made their decision on is, in my view, that's that part of its conclusive. But I'm not convinced that any other part of the ball didn't touch, but that's not what they're ruling on. They can't rule on something they can't see. Yeah, I agree with that. The other, the other thing that makes my blood boil is the person in charge of making these decisions, in a grand final, has such close links with the, with one of the teams, like how is that allowed? How can, how can he make a totally unbiased decision even unconsciously? You know, it's just, it's not a, it's not a fair level playing field, like he should be taken out of the equation and someone who isn't a life member of the penorist passes should not be making that decision, like that's as clear as day. Yeah, yeah, that's probably a fair call and that's been discussed at length as well. So look, I'll go back to what I said yesterday, Stormgirl, is that part of this process, for me, is we should be able to see in real time, as, or there or thereabouts, what the decision, what frame by frame the decision is made on and how that decision is made by the bunker, we should get to see that. And now we can, and Graham and Asley show journalists after the match, that vision. And that's, if, you know, if you did some digging when you went to bed on Sunday night, and I understand you would have been furious, but if you did some digging, you would have been able to find that, you know, at the end of the night, it'd be great if we could get that there or thereabouts in real time, but we didn't get that. But in my opinion, the grounding of that ball at that stage, which they made that ruling on, shows that the ball, the arm is under the ball. The other part is a question for the NRL, I can't answer that, but I don't like speaking to the integrity of officials. I understand that you've got concerns, and they're probably, you know, pretty good concerns. But I find it difficult to question integrity of people, especially real official makers in that thing. But as you said, perhaps unconsciously, so there's a bit to unpack in all of that. Let me ask you this. Do you think, because here's what I think, that could have been a massive turning point in the outcome of the game, because that could have, with a successful kick, that puts the storm who were on the back foot ahead by two points at that stage of the game. Had you gone on to win it, don't know. What do you think in terms of a turning point? I'm not saying that that lost us the game. We came out in the second half a lot more aggressively. We had some momentum going at that point, and that would have been a huge turning point for, you know, 10 all with a kick to come, maybe it's been kicking well, so that would have been good. I'm not saying we would have won, because, you know, you can never write Penrose off, we all know that. But that was huge momentum killer as far as our team was concerned. Yeah, I'd agree with that too. And the fact that you guys were on the back foot so much at that time, and leading up to that, you know, also points to it. And I'd also agree with what you just said there. I think the 10 or 15 minutes after half time, and I watched really closely, we don't know what he's saying word for word, but I watched very closely as much as we could, what Craig Bellamy was directing in at half time there, so, and I think that there was an absolute push to get back in the middle, you had your bigger outside backs, now starting to make ground up the middle, meanie, Warbrick, how they were all doing that heavy lifting in the middle in particular, and you started to gain some traction. So that period of the game to me was the best period where the storm really showed where they could make up ground. But trying to climb over the top of Penrith with that much fatigue in the legs at the end of it was a near-on impossible task. Good on you, Stormgolf, thank you, and appreciate the call. Give us a buzz back any time. Well, Stormgolf, thank you, thank you, 1-300-01-1170 is the open line number, Stormgolf, you've got lots of support on the text line, deserve a prize, making a lot of sense, absolutely. However, Maddie, some of these people appear to have sau grapes, look at it from a Penrith one eye view, you also see a number of times Melbourne would pick a leg up, drag the player around and tackle, the reason not hearing about the storm tactics is because Penrith one, wow, yeah, it's, was it the howler, I, when it played out, I thought, oh no, please don't let this one be decided on a howler. And even by the time that I wrapped it up late at night, and I was scrolling through various things and doing what I do, which is research and trying to get as many different parts of the puzzle piece together, I thought, and then finally saw that replay and went through it time and time again. But the other part of that is, am I convinced that some other part of the ball didn't touch the grass? No, I'm not, no, I think there's every chance that that was somewhere along the line, I try. Global game returns to SEM from eight o'clock, thanks to Paramount, plus a mountain of football live and exclusive, Simon Hill is back on our program, it's been a while, mate, welcome back. Oh, are you much, are you good? I'm good, I'm good, hey, I've been doing some digging as you know, I love my research. And when I look at the, what is it now, the 20th season of the a leagues and, well, the league men's that some of the numbers and some of the storylines, which I love are starting to form a pretty compelling argument around this season, 140 new scientists got a new team in over there in Auckland, which sprouts a whole heap of other things, including a New Zealand Derby. We've got big name arrivals in stars, we've got central coast trying to continue on the way. That speaks to me of a league now that's on the move, that's doing what a lot of people are saying me doing. Let's make some noise, let's generate some passion. So is there a genuine excitement about this? Yeah, I hope so, I mean, it normally is, you know, around the start of a new football season, which is terrific, and you're right, that the addition of Auckland will freshen things up a little bit. We'd have loved to have had Canberra in as well, that was the original name, but looks like that's going to be delayed by, well, at least 12 months, hopefully only one year. And you're right that, you know, pretty surprisingly, the clubs, given that the distributions have gone down significantly from APL this season, have been able to acquire some big names, Douglas Costa at Sydney, of course, who's got a great CV place for the likes of the event, to some Bayern Munich, Brazilian International for 2018 World Cup. And Juan Mater at Western Sydney Wanderers, obviously we know him from his primary league days, with Chelsea and Manchester United and internationally for Spain. So, you know, there's lots to get excited about, hopefully the football will live up the building, I'm sure it will do, and of course, the first weekend we've got the big Sydney Derby with those two big stars on show, so I'm sure we'll get a sellout in Parramatta and by all accounts, we're pretty close to a sellout in New Zealand as well for Auckland's first-time game. So, yeah, there are positive signs, which is great. I wonder just on the Auckland side of things whilst it's not in our backyard, and we will, you know, eventually, I think it's round three, we get the Kiwi classical, they're calling it up, they're New Zealand, Auckland, the Wellington. I wonder how much Bill Foley comes into the pitch now, because the investments there, the US billionaire with track record in the world of sport, and the feet are well and truly under the desk, and I wonder how much he, well, A, I wonder Simon, how much he can rattle the cage, and then the other part is how much the A leagues will soak up from somebody like having him in the system. Yeah, good questions. I mean, obviously, he's, you know, well known to the city football group, who are also involved very heavily in the A league, and they, of course, own Manchester City, Bill Foley owns Bournemouth and one or two other clubs besides, I think he's done things in the right way. Obviously, he's got the money, we know that, but he's also put a local team in place that understands the footprint of football in Auckland. At the moment, it's an unknown quantity. I mean, as I said, their opening home game will probably sell out, which is terrific, but the key over the course of the journey will be to keep those fans, some of whom might be going to watch, you know, a football game for the first time, or they might have other allegiances, and they're going along because they're curious, and, you know, it's probably around, round 10, round 11, that will probably, you know, know how they're properly tracking on and off the field. But certainly, they've made a bit of noise, I should mention as well that they've made a marquee sign that they're owned, really, in many respects, with a guy called Heroki Sakai. He's, importantly, not a marquee in the sense that, you know, he's going to put a lot of bombs on seats here in Australia, but he's had a terrific career, played 74 times for Japan, he's a top quality player, and, of course, they've got Steve Correa in charge, who knows his way around the only quite well, so, you know, it's going to be interesting to see how they go, but, you know, short term, it'll be great. I have no doubt about that. It'll be the long term that'll be, you know, the KPI that we have to keep an eye on. And just on the international scene, so the new era begins, the Tony Popovich era begins this Thursday, so the World Cup qualifiers continue, so here we go, we get to have a good look at what the next stage of the soccer ooze is, but on the flip side of that, we should reference, and I did bring this this morning, Johan Naskins, who was side by side with Gus Hittingt throughout 2006, passed away and is very, very well respected. Yeah, very sad news about Johan Naskins, who, along with Graham Arnold, was one of course Hittingt's assistants at the famous 2006 World Cup in Germany. It was a lovely fellow Johan, very modest, considering he was in the 1970s, one of the world's greatest players, him and Johan Khoif were arguably the civil, certainly Khoif was the standout player in that Dutch side that got to the World Cup final back to back 74 and 78, and Naskins wasn't far behind. He didn't quite have the same coach in Korea, but he had an impact on Australia, loved Australia. I mentioned this on social media today, I remember speaking to him, in 2006 after Huss hitting the path that he wanted the job, the soccer ooze job on a full-time base, and I said, "What makes you so keen for the job?" And he said, "Well, the side of the football, I just love living in Australia because it's one of the few places in the world I can wander down the street, have a coffee, and nobody bothers me." So he loved this part of the world. It's very sad that he's pasted what is still relatively a young age, 73, he was just taking ill while doing some coaching in Algeria and sadly has passed away, but yeah, fond memories of that duo along with Arnie in 2006. The Popper era, as you mentioned, starts on Thursday and Adelaide, Adelaide over against China. It's going to be fascinating to see how they go, but this really is, I mean, this is not just a must-not-lose game, this is a must-win, because they're fallen behind quite significantly in those first two games, so if they don't beat China, well, top two is, I think it's going to be a very, very big ask for them, so it's important that they get the three points on the board, China are not a great opposition, to be honest, and they're missing their best player, woo-lay, so they should get the three points, but it's going to be interesting to see how they play under Popper. Yeah, yeah, looking forward to it, alright mate, and looking forward to the show, it's a night, good to have you back, and let's keep the charge going, have a good one tonight. Thanks, Matthew, all of us. The global game there, right here on SCN, thanks to Paramount Plus, I'm out in the football live and exclusive, the spring farm eagle, oh, it just dropped this text about why wouldn't we include an Indonesian team, why are we so nice to New Zealand and include teams in our league, well, maybe you can fire that off to the boys tonight, on the global game. I would imagine that, I mean, New Zealand's, there's a team there, they get it, they get it, Darby, I'm really interested to know behind the scenes the Bill Foley era, I mean, we've got the Tony Popper vich here and now for Socceroos, there's one great storyline internationally, as I mentioned, some really good storylines in the world of the A-League, and that part of it whilst it's over, the ditch could have a long-term effect, he owns this club, he's got plenty of football now about him and plenty of other input into the world of Australian football at the moment anyway, but this is feed under the desk territory now, play is underway, although now delayed again from what I could see at the Sheffield Shield. New South Wales batting first, get out there, none for eight, Sam Constis and Nick Baddison of course, opening the batting, so Sam, not out five and Nick, not out two, but it appears though, the match has been delayed again because of rain as we expected, it's 21 past 11. Play has resumed at Cricket Central, so just in the last couple of minutes, in fact, the first ball since the break has just been, or since the delay has just been delivered, New South Wales, none for eight, so it looks as though it's going to be that kind of stop start to the Sheffield Shield season, in this game at least, let's hope it continues, so we'll keep you across that one. A couple of text before we get to the 11.30 news, Maddie, beside the start time for the grand final, do you think they will ever move it from a Sunday night to a Saturday night? I want to grow the game in other States, New Zealand and PNG, yet only New South Wales has a public holiday on the Monday, says the Melbourne Seagull. Oh, no. How does that, I just know, Sunday night is the absolute spot for it, and it is the peak of nights, essentially, again, if I just go back to the broadcasters, they will take a Sunday night over a Saturday night any day of the week, and again, if you compare that between rugby league and AFL, you can't, because the tradition of Saturday for AFL will stick true, and they've been brave. I've got to say, the AFL have been very, very brave in making that call to stay where they are and stay with the afternoons, because there's a lot more money to get if you move. Just got this one to a legend in the go-kart world of my neighbour, Mr. Graham Pals, vintage go-karts, passed away twelve days ago. He taught Dan Ricciato, McDoern's son and was a friend ofette and centre of true legend and a gentleman, rest in peace, mate. Thank you for that. I was unaware of that one. Matt, just to clarify over the phone call from Storm Girl, Atkins had never been and will never be a lifetime member of the Penrith Rugby League Club. He is a life member of the Penrith Referee's Association. They are two completely different entities. The same waffle was going around when Penrith beat Souths in the Grand Final and South supporters were trying to find excuses to avoid any potential conflict in the future. Perhaps we can get all refs from Referee Island where they have no association with any entities at all, and then zero excuses. Thank you, Cops Panther. So much crying there. You'll create a storm. What about the Luai Strip that wasn't a strip storm get a penalty? Then kick it 40 metres downfield, score two plays later, swings and roundabouts. The four peat is complete, says the North need Panther. Look, I think Storm Girl agreed, you know, would have changed the course of the game. It would have been a turning point. I don't think there's any question about that. Would they have gone on to win the game? There's a big question about that because we just don't know. But just I think if there's one thing that pops out, if I was sitting in the NRL today and having the chat about all this, drama's good, but I'd say, OK, let's work out how we let the public see what we see in the bunker. Now, there's clearly other mechanics involved in that. But let's try and work it out where we get to a point where the definitive call is made and we show the public the definitive call. That's not to say that we're still not going to argue about it. It's not going to put to bed. We won't wake up on a Monday morning and not talk about the bunker if they go ahead and do that. But I think we'll talk about it with much more information, clearer information. Now we got that in the end after the match. OK, so let's just go. Let's take that back a few hours, guys. And let's work out how to do this. If it's important, the game thinks it's important and the game should jump on it with the broadcasters and make it happen. The technology is there. Here's the 1130 news. This one on the text line says, Matt, you just want to give a shout out to the blokes who last week gave the Queensland Cup team no chance, had a few callers writing them off and giving the cup to the Jets. Give yourself an uppercut. You know who you are. It's how he's signed off from that one. Matt says, it's Matt from the Gold Coast. G'day, Matt, from one map to another. Who cares about anything this week other than the greatest race? A week of excitement building up to Sunday and to top it off seeing Chazzy taking out the Bathurst 1000. Could he do it again? He's done it before, twice. Could Chaz and Austin do it again? Here's one from Silverwater Tech. We shame Van Gisberg going in a NASCAR. It's reinvigorated my watching since Marcus. I watch a lot of socials about the sport and really appreciate the frankness, the drivers and commentators critique the sport and they're uncensored by the governing body. Here we get the same old Mosh Mosh comments by the drivers and questions that get asked to them. There's no rivalry in V8s and everybody is their mate. The media need to sell some truths about the sport and stop being so precious and then you continue on Silverwater Tech. It's a constant discussion around all that and I won't because I don't think it's right to say that the drivers with their Mosh in your terms, Mosh Mosh comments here don't light it up and the questions that get asked to them, everybody's trying to make this sport entertaining but I would say this Silverwater Tech because I've seen it firsthand. The one thing you cannot manufacture, you can try and manufacture social media, you can try and manufacture frankness, you can try and manufacture commentary, you can try and manufacture outrageous statements, you can try and manufacture being uncensored by the governing body, you can try, you won't succeed. The one thing you cannot manufacture is emotion. Go back and have a think about supercars in particular, sport across the board but go back and have a real good think about the big moments in supercar, just for instance, just off the top of your head. The ones that really generate, all of the stuff that you've just said there and you've got a point but all of the stuff that you've just said there, the ones that really generate those are the emotional moments. O6, Brockie passes away, Lowndes wins it with Jamie Wingcup just a month or so later, emotion. Murphy and Ambrose together at the cutting emotion. Scafey out of the car at Eastern Creek to Russell Ingle, that's emotion. The lap of the gods emotion coming back into pit lane, that's emotion, that's only going back in recent history. So the one thing that you cannot manufacture is the one thing that you really, really need, which is emotion because everything flows off that. That's where rivalries come from, that's where the buying comes from. The red versus blue was easy because it triggered emotion. So how do we generate that? That's the question for me and that comes naturally in most cases. So that's the talking point for me there, Silverwater, taking my response to what you're saying because you know you pick up the Russell Ingles and the dude and all of these guys being a voice of the sport. What you really want is people to feel the emotional connection to what you are delivering. And that's how you go about it. And believe me, I've been in meetings, Silverwater Tech where they said, Oh, you know what? Have a crack at each other on social media. It's manufactured. Have a crack in the in the media itself. It's manufactured. They're not having a crack. They're not having a crack. So just bring it back to the emotion and let it go because at the end of the day, they were all trying to beat each other. And that's what will bring up all of that. So it's a good point to raise. But how do you go about it? Is the hard part. Oh, four, five, seven, seven, three, six, seven, three, six. Now, Coach K, we've still got play continuing, which is good. The longer they're out there, the better it is. But cricket central is where it's all at for the opening match of the Sheffield Shield. Time for a score update. Yeah, Matty. I actually love, I love cricket season because I think there's so many storylines behind what it takes to get to the top level. Like there is so much pressure on these cricketers deliver. We're looking for an opener and you're under the pump. Like if you are, if you know you're on the cusp or you know that the heavily is select is heavily looking, you're just thinking yourself, this could really change what happens for me. And well, not only my future for the next four or five months of just action playing or you can earning money. You're just everything is on the line when it comes down to who's going to open for Australia. Now, North of 13, Matty, as you said, Sam, Constas, nine or 14 with the bat, Nick Madison, four of 18. Matthew Jilks, Moises on Riches, Oliver Davies, Josh Philippi, Jack Edwards, Nathan Lyon, Tanvie, Sanger, Jack Nisbitt, Liam Hatcher, though that is the line up there for New South Wales, joining Buckingham, bowling at the moment with Nathan McAndrew, North for 10, North for four for Nathan McAndrew, Jordan Buckingham. But Matty, with the weather, he got me thinking, you know, what you used to do back in the day, when it was on Channel 9, and there was no cricket on, would you sit there and you'd watch the panel with the rain in the background with the gla-- I know Jules is looking-- Jules is looking at me and he's nodding his head, being like, "That's what I do." Classic catches Jules. [laughter] Jules, you have a chat with him, Jules will pop in after the next break, you have a bit of a chin wag, but I feel like the nuffies would, Matty. Like, I feel like you would certainly do that because you love cricket, you coach it, but you won't spoil for choice. You actually have to sit there and watch, you know, at the time, Richie Beno was doing the show and you'd see the drops on the back window and you'd just sit there for a half an hour, if not longer. That would be one of the hardest things to feel, would it not? If you're a presenter, that would be tough. Yeah. Well, yeah, this is where the producers earn their money. I mean, everyone says this, that's where the presenters earn their money, but really, it's the producers behind the scenes, the use of the world there, Coach K, where you come in and you go, "Right, oh, okay, we've got a, we don't know how long the rain delay is going to go, so we've got a rain delay. What do we do here?" And you've got your stock standards, you know, you had your classic catches where you go through Richie, do the memorabilia. Now it's a lot of, yeah, now it's a lot of analysis and interviews. The other thing to remember there too is, you know, think of, back in that day that you're talking about, there was no access to the dressing room in particular, you know, very, very limited access to players of the day. Whereas now, you're up and out, you know, howie, for instance, is a master at it, how he gets up and out and off he goes, "Give me a microphone, give me a camera, let me go," because he has that ability to bounce around and go everywhere, the technology's there to get the feed and the signal. So you can, you can feel it for as much as you want with the storylines that have been there, they just haven't been as accessible, but I was a hundred percent sitting there waiting for the classic catches and whatever else they'd come up and just sitting there watching, you know, you were almost mesmerized by Richie and the rest. "Maddie, now I remember some of the classic catches they used to just roll and repeat probably every third or fourth time was Faddie's catch. I'm trying to remember, when was Faddie's catch that he caught that absolute screamer and he ran around like a lunatic around the oval with his hand up at the air with the ball in there? Do you remember which catch that was? I remember the catch, I'm hopeless with the date, but I absolutely remember the catch, the one that sticks out for me, which is before your time, was Johnny Dyson taking an absolute screamer at the ECG, one handed back, you know, we used to play classic catches when we go down to the pool and do all that kind of stuff, and that was the one that we used to shout out about. Faddie sort of went into his own little bit of folklore there, but yeah, classic catches, we could do that, I mean classic tries, you know, why can't we do that and we don't get many relate rain delays, obviously. That's true, Maddy, one last score, the NFL started, Chief Seven, St. Norton, and that's in the first quarter, so we'd almost finished that one, so I'm no doubt Jules will touch on that, Maddy, and that's the score update. Okay, in New South Wales, none for 18 at the moment, back after this, so grab hold of Jules coming up. Yes, welcome back. If you love four-wheel driving, make sure you join Scotty Sattler on the podcast, talking bull, all thanks to TJM. How's that? Got a good idea for a podcast, it's called Talking Bull, but it's all about four-wheel driving and off-roading as well. Some special guests on the list and on the show, Spider Everett, Nathan Soby, Greg Mato, Martin, Brooke Hanson, Andy Bickle, all there, Talking Bull with Scotty Sattler. You can listen on the SE and Apple wherever you get your podcasts on that one. It was AB's testimonial for Fattie's catch, 1994, and Dunny, yes, don't worry, Coach K did not actually think that Fattie played for the Australian cricket team. It was a good catch, however, Jules that have some beauties, the classic catches of the day. Was it Schwepp's classic catches, Jules? There would have been a few sponsors. There were a few. Sid Chrome, was it Sid Chrome that did it for a while? No, the Sid Chrome Super Test team. Sid Chrome Super Test team, that's right. Yeah, remember it was the Sid Chrome Super Test team. Do you remember the 12th man with talking about that all-important net-run rate? Yeah, it's divided by the average age of the paddocks, I'd pair the number of spanners in a Sid Chrome toolkit. It was very good. I'm not convinced that Coach K didn't think that he played cricket for Australia. Has Coach K's got the best blank look at everyone here at SCN, sort of looks at you. You can see the cogs turning his head. Yeah, I don't want to play poker against Coach K. Yeah, good point. You're just thinking about classic catches and the Fattie one was magnificent. And you'd see, you know, when they play ABC and D and spectacular diving catches the second slip or short mid-wicked, then he'd always have that one matty which was tracking back in the outfield, caught over the top of the head, and it never looked as spectacular but the king cricket eyes ago. That's actually very hard to do. And it was true. And the commentators, to be honest, well, that's a very good catch. They're difficult to take. A very good catch. Somebody shouted out, oh, it was spring farm eagle. The best classic had to be tubby when he kicked it up with his foot. That was amazing. And that was one of the ones that came to mind. Instantly, I went John Dyson. Yeah, it's still kind of the gold standard, isn't it, Dyson? Yeah, it's the gold standard. Yeah. And then I went and then the other flash that came to me was tubby doing that, the kick, the kick, you know, up at pop. Yeah, the tubby one's interesting. It looked fancy, but he should have taken it the first time, right? He made it harder than it should have been. And then I think about that Mark Wall catch in the '99 World Cup final and diving catches. Mark Wall was so good that he took it with two hands, right? He was so good, best slipper I've ever seen. If he had taken it with one hand, it would have looked even better, perhaps even more classic, but that's testament to how good ME War wasn't a slip. Yeah. Yeah. There's a good question. Best slippy they've ever seen. ME War. The tubby was very good. First, second, you know, potting was in the water. They're all so good. They were all so good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I started watching the test again the other day. Sorry, mate. I started watching the test again the other day. And when they get to the first test, they're in Birmingham. And Steve Smith talks about it. Remember Smudge? He took an absolute hanger. Yep. And it's, and it's just freakish. The other ones, I mean, we, we quickly focus on Australian players, but don't forget those West Indians. Gordon Greenwich took some absolute flyers. Gus Logan was off the ground at times because he had to be. Yeah. So it's all Augustine. Glad a lot of that sort of short leg, didn't he? Gus Logan. Yeah. And Larry goes with the Afro here. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember Capelli saying, you know, Ed, there's a lot of this sort of back in my day thing going on at the moment, particularly with all this grand final talk, you know, the Panthers and the eels and 1980s and whatnot. And Capelli had said, gee, myself and Greg and Stackey was pretty good. Slips Gordon. And he wasn't wrong. He was not wrong. That's it. I don't think I've heard you or Chip Kelly. That's a good one. Oh, I've got too much respect for the man. I can't do it. I can do the Chip Kelly. You're right. I can do the after hours, Chip Kelly, but that'll have to be off air for you, man. After dark. Now what's coming up on your show? Three hours of classic catches. Yeah. Well, I'd love to. We could hear them switching off in drives if that was the case. But Jaleesa Raps is going to join us for her regular rugby league chat. Looking forward to this. So 1991 grand final winner for the Panthers in the center is Cole Bentley is going to join me today. So yesterday on the program, we sort of undertook this pretty pointless exercise of picking a hybrid team from 9103 and 24 and discussing who out of what team would make it in that hybrid team. So Fiddler from 91 made it. I think we might have had MG and Royce in there as well. So I want to get Cole's take on that. It's a chance to talk up how good that inaugural premiership winning team was for the Penrith Panthers. But further to that, because Bulldog today's has chatted to some of the old eels blokes. So Ray Price and Wally Witton, Dennis Fitzgerald, "Oh, this Penrith side's good, but we would have had them. We had covered all over the park. And part of me, the cynic in me, Matthew, is saying, is that a bit of elephant's deprivation syndrome back in my day, which, you know, maybe so. They were great sides, but maybe." You know, I love this, this, this compare and contrast, which we will continue to do post-grant final. So I'm going to catch up with Cole Bentley as well. It is, you know, you pick up the phone and you get a Ray Price on the other end and he's willing to talk about it, and you'll have that chat. Did you get to a captain, a hybrid captain? I did not, actually. No, no. Let's say... Royce's pick, let's give it a Royce. Done. I don't think anybody wants either. Elder statesman. Elder statesman's got to be a Royce. All right, mate, have a ripping show. Thank you. "A silver water tech says, 'Maddy, thanks for the response. This is about supercars. I think part of what I was getting at is that there's virtually no emotion. Red, the blue, ho-hum, Murphy Ambrose, viewed Ingle, scape. Where is it?' He says, 'As I said, the drivers are too scared to show emotion about what happens when they're turned around, run into or bumped and run. It's the sponsors who don't want the emotion. Don't think so in any press is usually good press, and that's what sponsors pay for. Fair enough? Yeah. I think we both agree on probably the same part of what you were saying there. That we'd like to see more of that emotion. The question is, where do you start trying to get to it? Hillstorm Hillary says, 'I'm still getting over Sunday night, but now we move on to the best race and track in the world baddest. I'm hoping the prince of the mountain lounge you can get lucky number eight, but if not, James Golding, the beeps can bring it home. Good on you, Hillstorm. Thank you for that. Couple of shout-outs of the classics, Glenn McGraw, diving in the outfield, an absolute classic at Adelaide. And Statsie says he was there at the test match when John Dyson took that catch. Bruce Yardley, in the same test match, took a screamer. That's right in the gully. Adam Dale in the mercantile mutual cup took a running diving screamer for Queensland. Thank you. New South Wales and none for 29. I've been batting here against South Australia out at Cricket Central. Sam Constis, 19, not out. Nick Madison, eight, not out of 32 deliveries. Ten overs gone there. So Julian King is coming up to your mile. Fogarty will join me tomorrow and Wednesdays, of course, with Webby as well. Have a great day, everybody. Stick around for Jules and we'll do it all again tomorrow at nine.