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Dunleavy: Jets Will Never Win Super Bowl With Aaron Rodgers

New York Post NFL/Jets reporter RYan Dunleavy joined JR to discuss the Jets firing Robert Saleh, if the firing will help turn the season around and if the Jets will ever win a World Series with Aaron Rodgers.

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09 Oct 2024
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Are you tired of podcasts claiming there are a bunch of pro bettors when they live in their mommy's basement? Are you tired of podcasts that claim they hit 80% of the games? When really, they just lose like most of us. Think cash to tickets to spot for you. We're real, we're transparent, we're having a hell of a good time with it. And we sit there and we're there for the sweat with you guys. We're just trying to figure it out just like you. Follow and listen to Cash the Ticket on the free Odyssey app or wherever. You get your podcasts. Brian, how are you, man? Good. What's up? And thank you for taking the time to join us, so how much of a shock or were you shocked that the New York Jets decided to pull the plug on Rob Salla when they did? Yeah, I was. I was very shocked. And you know, it's kind of my job not to be shocked. But I think there's usually more rumbling, there's usually more signs that a guy is on the hot seat. We knew it was getting close. I thought it was still probably a couple of weeks away. I mean, they're playing for first place on Monday night. They looked really good a couple of weeks ago against the Patriots. They got two awful hideous offensive games, and that's kind of where I thought this was going to go. Like if you, if I woke up this morning, you said, "Hey, Ryan, somebody's going to get fired with the Jets." I'd say, "Okay, Nathaniel Hackett got canned." And Robert Salla, that's his last desperation, blame worthy move, he probably got two weeks. So to see, Salla get fired and Hackett still have a job, and Joe Douglas, the GM still have a job. It's very surprising to me. Well, Ryan, we heard the owner of the New York Jets, Woody Johnson, say that this was his decision, that yes, he spoke to Joe Douglas, but this was his decision. How much input realistically do you think Aaron Rodgers had in this? Look, it's hard to believe that he had very little. I believe it's Woody Johnson's call at the end of the day, but I mean, if you see how the Jets have been operating for the last two years, and look, let me say that, actually, everybody's going to say, "Oh, they had that weird awkward hug push," and they were paid in state a couple of weeks ago. I don't think those things did it, but that's not what makes me think. Aaron Rodgers had some pull in this, it's just the way that everything in this operation runs through Aaron Rodgers. You want to trade for Devontae Adams, then that's what we'll do. You want to sign Alan Lazard, you want to sign Randall Cobb, you want to sign Billy Taylor, you want to hire Nathaniel Hackett, that's what we'll do. So everything runs through him, do I think he, you know, Godfather movie, Robert Salla, no, I don't necessarily think that, but I don't think he would have stopped it if they said, "Hey, this is what we're thinking about." I think he would have said, "Okay," so that's kind of what I think. I don't think Aaron Rodgers took him out, but I don't think Aaron Rodgers did him any favorites either. Look, Aaron Rodgers hasn't gotten along with Mike McCarthy late in his career, he hasn't gotten along with La Flora late in his career, he's not exactly the most easy guy to coach. Ryan Dunleavy is joining us, covers all things NFL for the New York Post. What do you expect for the New York Jets moving forward? Jeff Allbrake is a new dude, Devontae Adams is still on the table. How do you think the next week or so is going to look for the Jets? I mean, tell me who's calling the offensive plays, because like Jeff Allbrake's going to bring a new energy to the Jets, right? But Robert Salla's thing is energy, right? I don't think they need a new energy, I don't think technically I guess teams usually get a boost for a couple of weeks when they make a change, because all of a sudden guys can't slack on things, right, and you realize, "Oh, he got fired, I could be next. I got to pay for my job, I got to impress my new coach." So like all that stuff is real, there's history to it, but like if Nathaniel Hackett's still calling an offense from the Stone Ages, then like, I don't know how, they're not going to score any more points, I don't know how they're going to win more games. So like to me, the first thing I would do if I was Allbrake is I'd change the offensive coordinator, I would make Todd Downing, and this is by no me, Todd Downing isn't exactly Ben Johnson, the Lions offensive coordinator, but he has play call and experience, he did it for Del Rio with the Raiders, he did it for Reibel with the Titan, so he's done it before, I would probably do that and hope that I could get some more offense, and if I can get more offense, look, I'm the fool who picked it yet to be, the AFC representative in the Super Bowl for a season started, and so they've disappointed me and done this. Woody Johnson is right about one thing, it's an incredibly talented Robson. Well, what are your thoughts on them picking up Devontae Adams, is that still a formality? We heard about the Saints as a possibility, we see that Derek Carr is now going to be out for weeks, so is Devontae Adams just on a fast track to the Jets? I think it definitely throws a wrench into that plan, for sure. I would guess it's still, I don't have insight into this, but I would guess it's still where Devontae Adams wants to go, especially like you said Derek Carr is injured now, so I don't know that he wants to go to New Orleans if it was really between those two, I would guess Aaron Rodgers still wants Devontae Adams, is Devontae Adams going to want to go to a place that is coaching up in the air like this, probably would still do it because he's still going to play with Aaron Rodgers, and again, he's another guy who played in Green Bay with Hackett, so he probably knows what he's probably close to Hackett like Lazard, and Rodgers are. The question is really, is Woody Johnson going to do it? Is he going to allow Joe Douglas, who lets face it, he's got to be on the hot seat now too? I mean, if it wasn't, you know, play off to Boston or Joe Douglas, it certainly is now, right? What's he going to hire the next coach? He's already hired Adam Gates and Robert Salla, so I would say, yeah, if he's going to allow Joe Douglas to make this trade, if he does, and dip into future resources that might hurt Joe Douglas' replacement, that's a tricky spot, and is Woody going to trade for him if Devontae Adams wants a new contract? Look, he hasn't opened up his wallet for his son, Redick, who's still holding out. If Devontae says, "I want a new contract," is Woody going to open the wallet and rearrange his contract? Because, oh, hey, Aaron Rodgers wants him. Yeah, Ryan Dunleavy is joining us from the New York Post. What do you expect the rest of the season to look like for the Jets? You said earlier on pre-season, you expected them to, you know, win the AFC. What are your expectations for this team as it stands right now? I think they'll probably end up scrambling it together and being in the wild card hunt at the end of the season, like, "I picked them to win the AFC, so I'll be surprised if they do that at this point with what they look like." I guess Devontae, trading for Devontae Adams, could give them the boost over the top, but we're asking me right now, what do I think the Jets are? I think the Jets are probably like a 9 and 18, and right now they're 2 and 3, so is it crazy to think they go from one game under to one game over 500? No, I don't think so. I think they're probably about a 9 and 18, and whether that gets you 7th in the AFC or 9th in the AFC, that'll depend on how things shake out around the league. But I certainly don't look at them as a Super Bowl contender anymore. There's too many problems I didn't foresee. I thought the talent would overcome, and it has not overcome. So the New York Jets, they go to the playoffs as a wildcard, they win or they lose, they are eliminated, they don't win a championship, are the New York Jets now in hostage mode? Are they being held hostage by Aaron Rodgers? I mean it feels that way, right? I mean it feels that way, but I don't even know that that's a bad thing, right? Like this is what they did, they sold their future to him 2 years ago, right? So like people are like, "Oh, if you were having me on yesterday, we wouldn't be talking about Robert, so we'd be talking about the Vomte Adams, it's a big story around it." You have to people have been like, "Should they do it?" I'm like, "Yeah, they should do it, because this is it. This is a window." Like as soon as they traded for Aaron Rodgers, it was like everything else had to be for right now. So like, yeah, I think they probably are being held hostage by Aaron Rodgers, like that's good. They want to have Aaron Rodgers and then like think long term, like that doesn't make any sense. You don't have Aaron Rodgers and then like, "Okay, well, we're going to build through the draft." No, you're going for it. So yeah, I mean they're being held hostage not necessarily by Aaron Rodgers, they're being held hostage by a 2-year window for their starting quarterback. Well, if things don't work and he decides to go, does this team not sink further into the toilet? I mean, is Joe Douglas around? Aaron Rodgers is gone, Sala is gone, doesn't everybody? The house gets cleaned completely, no? Oh yeah, I mean, if that's what we're talking about, if we're talking about that far down the line, yeah. If we're talking about Aaron Rodgers is in here, then they're going to start completed from scratch, but they're all playing now for the jobs. It'll be a total sense of clean slate, urgency, panic, and we'll see what they do against the bills. We always say winning is the great elector, that Robert Sallad didn't do enough winning. If they come out and beat the bills, everybody says, "Oh, they made the right move at the perfect time." Look, they just beat the bills. It was the perfect motivational tactic, so that doesn't mean they wouldn't beat the bill if Robert Sallad was here, it's just that Woody Johnson was looking to kick his team in the butt, and that's how he chose to do it. But Ryan, let me ask you this, final question, regardless of whether Aaron Rodgers plays another four months, whether he plays another year and four months, do you think that the New York Jets are going to win a Super Bowl? Like ever or this year? No, no, but this next four months or a year and four months over the next two seasons, do you see them winning a Super Bowl? No, no, definitely not. Nice. Yes, they cooked. Yeah, no. Winning a Super Bowl, no. Like they could get into playoffs, which for this franchise is an accomplishment. Let's not forget, they have the longest playoff list drought in North American sports, I think. See them are the Buffalo Sabres. And so, no, I mean, no, they're not a Super Bowl contender. I thought so. I'll eat it. They were, I thought they had enough talent and you can breathe tall, struggling, you can see the offensive line is much worse than it was. And that's not on Robert Salah, that was Joe Douglas's off season priority and it looked like he did not do a good job building an offensive line. So no, they could sneak into the playoffs this year. They could sneak into the playoffs two years in a row. I don't see this as a Super Bowl team. And last, Jeff Albrecht is a schematic and motivational wizard that we, you know, more than just an interim head coach unless they catch lightning in the bottle. Yeah. And jet fans better pray for that. Hey, Ryan, where can people follow you and all your work with the New York Post? Yeah. NYPost.com has all our guests coverage. My colleagues, Brian Costello, Mike Picaro, Steve Serby, Mark Enizero, all guys you should know if you follow this team, tons of jets coverage on this and every single day out of practice. And me, I'm on Twitter or X or whatever we call it now at Rye Dunleavy, R-Y Dunleavy. Hey, thank you so much, Ryan. Enjoy the circus. The New York Jets, I feel like we're only on to maybe the second or third act of the season. We'll see what else they do. Thanks for having me. The seasons may be changing, but the deals and the sharpest rides are unbeatable as ever. Hey, what's going on? It's your girl, Tasha McKeea. And I need you to join the sharpest rides for their fall into savings events where they're offering incredible prices on their massive inventory. That's right. Everything is on sale now. Shop from sleek sedans to rugged SUVs and sporty convertibles. The sharpest rides has the perfect ride to match your fall adventures, plus with their exclusive financing options, getting behind the wheel of your dream car has never been easier. Log on and shop online at thesharpestrides.com right from the palm of your hands. Or check other massive inventory in person at the sharpest rides, located 2250 South Sea Home Street in Englewood. Either way, you will fall into savings. Don't miss out. Head on over to the sharpest rides.com today and explore the deals that make every season better. And tell them that your girl, Tasha McKeea sent you the sharpest rides, affordable, sexy, sharp. Hey, Mike Vlinny here, host a cash to ticket alongside my partner, Jim Costa. It's really simple. Are you tired of podcasts claiming they're a bunch of pro betters when they live in their lives? You lose like most of us. Think cash to tickets to spot for you. We're real. We're transparent. We're having a hell of a good time with it. And we sit there and we're there for the sweat with you guys. We're just trying to figure it out just like you. Follow and listen to Cash The Ticket on the free Odyssey app or wherever. You get your podcasts. [MUSIC PLAYING] (gentle music)