Yeshiva of Newark Podcast
Rosh HaShanah Readiness-Tekias-Teruos-Sitting and Standing-Symbolism of 100
(upbeat music) - You're listening to the Yeshiva of Newark at IDT podcast. I'm your host and curator, probably a problem with give a leverage. And I hope you enjoy this episode. - I talk about where do we get a hundred skis from? I mean, it's a lot of skis and maybe some people in the COVID era are gonna say, I'm gonna just take the minimum. Where do the hundred come from? So let's take a look and see if we can figure it out. We're gonna figure out what it says. Let's assume, of course, that it says yom taruwa. All right. So the Gamora says, okay, a truea. You know what a truea is? A truea, the Gamora says is shaloshi vavos, right? Remember, this is a yom tikia. It's yom taruwa. Yom taruwa means it's gotta be, yeah. Three cries versus one second. Three cries and a cry. Vatani shir trua slesha schwarren. Now to cry has a pretty much of a, it has some length to it. Isn't like a schwarren, like a very sharp, crisp thing? A chevord, no, no, no, right? Is it a cry or a chevord? Amor abaya. Bahov abaya pliege. There's a mahloka about this Abaya says. Because Amor says yom taruwa. What is a truea? Sound, it's some sort of broken sound. Some it's not a straight sound like a tekea. Like, tokea means like to stick something straight in with a straight force. So truea, some sort of, but what is truea mean? Exactly. If you look in the Targum of Targum uncle, this it says yom yivava. Yeah, how you look home? Yivava. Okay, what's yivava? Well, except the Amidus history. We know sister his mother. We know that, of course, Yael, Aishis, Khavir Akundu, she killed a guy, right? He wanted some extra killer stuff. She got him nice and ready, and then, right? She stuck the stave right into his face, right into the side of his face. Killed him. But his mother was waiting for him to come back. Bahada, hello, nushkafov. Bahtiyevave aim sister of the past success. So here you see an interesting thing. It's an Aramaic word, as you see. The word true is translated into Aramaic as yivava. And then we have the word yivave, yivavaave, yivavaave. Yeah, I'm sorry. Bahtiyevave in Shoftim as a Hebrew word or as a pure Loshanakotish word. What is it? Imagine a mother who expects the worst. I mean, she sees, and she has a premonition. Especially as time goes on, the things are getting worse and worse on the battlefield. Maybe she's hearing some reports. But where's my son? Where's my son? Imagine that, looking out the window and waiting for your son. You know he's a bum, but you love him. You know he's a murderer, a killer, a soldier. But then you're hearing that things went wrong. And you're hearing about how the battle was won by the enemy and the son's not there. So imagine yourself, transport yourself there. What would you be doing? So on that, what we have is two brices. The two brices argue about what would a mother, an incredible bachlokas. What would a mother looking out think about? What would be the type of thought she had that would become articulated in the type of cry? Marsauberg in Nuregona. It's like a crest, it's coming out. When you go neacme libo, it's gonna last long. It's not shiborim, it's like a break. And some of how there's almost a therapeutic aspect of it. Oh, Marsauberg, no, it's Yulula Yolio. Called the Maboho Maconin. Kowlusk, sorry I'm smooth from Zellazette. It's like, one is sort of like the pain of reflection and you just wanna push it out. And the other is, it's coming a machine gun-like, or it's coming out of you, like a little, little, little. So that's the question of what the cry is. And therefore, that maclochus and the brices has not been solved. Just like many other maclochus and shas, we're not sure. This was incredible. What we do on Rosh Hashanah is based on a debate as to what would that mother be doing? What would that cry have been? And therefore, there's actually, as we're gonna find out later, we're gonna see tonight that there's a suffix, what the true is. Is the true like one brice, the Yulula Yolio, the short ones. Is it Genuhe Ganeh, or is it a combination of them? And we don't know what young true is. You know, you gotta blow the chauffeur. Okay, so therefore, there's a suffix in the darissa. You have to blow three of these babies. Okay, three of those babies, right? 'Cause it must be a suffix, it might be a schwarren, it might be a truer, it might be a schwarren truer. Okay, so where do we get nine from? We're gonna see in a minute where you get nine from. But you definitely, I'm already setting the table. Why where you get three? Now we're gonna see how three becomes a hundred. We'll find out. Anyway, first of all, the brices me nine should be chauffeur. I mentioned this last night, because it says, by Yovell, we have varda chauffeur truer. I see chauffeur, we know we sort of know what that is, that's something you fix up, like the word, like (speaks in foreign language) it's something that you've hollowed out. In other words, it's a horn that you actually, as we know, you drill through and you're able to hollow it out in order for the sound to come out through the end of it. That's why it's called chauffeur. You fixed it. Okay, you fixed this animal horn. Show for true 'em. (speaks in foreign language) How do you know, (speaks in foreign language) - I have a question. - Yes. Yes, Moshe. - How come we are symbolizing a mother of the enemy soldier for our chauffeur? - I told you, it's an incredible point, isn't it? It really makes you think about the whole world, like even not only a non-Jew, but a non-Jew that they wanted to destroy us. I think it's an incredible lesson about what it means, in other words, to relate to that other aspect of humanity, that other aspect of what that person is who's a human. - Could it be relatable fact that in the most of of Rosh Hashanah, we're davening for the Agura Ahas and Hashem wants-- - Hashem wants too, Sheila. We daven the whole Rosh Hashanah for the whole-- - Right, right, I know, it's all the whole time, but I'm just saying specifically that it's the vision that Hashem has for the world. - Right, but Moshe's asking what's interesting is, is that it's from a period in our history when the world was not showing. It was when we were still just fighting to keep Eretz Yisrael, right? It was in the beginning that you made Shavoda Shavdim. - We prayed three times a day, (speaking in foreign language) to destroy them. Now, we're symbolizing one of the mothers over here to our two. - Right, but we're taking out from her. And remember, the only way we know that she was doing this? How do we know that she was sitting at the window? Devorah had a nivuah about it, Mosheh, right? Devorah, Devorah had a prophecy that God showed her the image of that mother there, and she sang about it. And I think there's something that-- - Is it the counter, is it the counter, the so-to-speak, the source, kind of like Hammons, you know, talents of silver was countered by the scholom. So we're countering this. Do you just cry? - Right, okay. - You're a positive one? - Okay, you're saying that she represents the non-Jewish world, and they have swiote. I'm not sure-- - Right, and the lowest common denominator of the-- (laughing) - Her school is, you know, she says, I'm waiting for them to come and tell me she crushed her head. Remember, that's what it says in the positive, right? - No, it's horrible, it's horrible. - It says in the positive, she says, I'm waiting for him to come back and tell me that he smashed the brains out of those people, right? She hates him, she's no great woman, you know what I'm saying? - I know, I'm just trying to figure out like why would we have to, what do we learn? - Okay, you're right, this is a good point. But I think what we see is, I think we strip that away all human beings, even the worst ones, you know, you go back like you say, and the pain of loss, the pain of what's most precious to them could be lost. And the fact Devorah saw that, right? Devorah saw that, and saw her looking out the window, and she, it's in that, it's in safer, and she showed him forever, for us to be always to have that image of her pain. Somehow, you're right, you could say, thank God, serves your right, your mom, you disgusting old woman, you and I wish we could have killed you too, right? I'm happy your son died, that sister, that mom's her, right? But, as I found a key here to a universal cry that I guess everybody has. - Robert, can you believe it? - Yes. - I'm just thinking that maybe because the idea of this cries, Minhamezza, right? So the lowest, most confined space, the lowest condition. Okay, that's what the chauffeur looks like, and that's what we're doing, that's what we say, we involved with Minhamezza. So, a mother of an enemy, somebody who really loves is like the lowest thing, it's the worst person, and that's the person that loves him. You know, maybe they, the way it was looked at is that's the lowest level that a person can, you know. That's somebody. - You're saying that we need to sort of look our, we need to imagine ourselves as something confined, low, worthless. - Yes, yes, and only then that's the nature of that sound, has to go from the narrow to the wide, and in other words, we sort of, Dr. Colgan is saying, we sort of have to imagine ourselves when we're trying to do Chubah, the way that we are, we are this worthless, you know, skunky woman who, you know, just- - Very good point, very good point, Doctor. I guess that we learn from the lowest common denominator of society, and we try to- - But not only, but he's saying we actually, we do that as a Chubah. We do that to sort of see because we can't consider ourselves high on Rosh Hashanah. - Uh-huh, got it, very good. - Okay, yeah, so let's move on. So I think we did a lot of good discussion on that, very good. So now, all right, so now we know what to show for. How do you know you do the Rosh Hashanah? Well, it says, "Bakota Shashavi." Why did they have to say, "Bakota Shashavi," we know it's him, Kipper, right? "Mata mama kota shashavi." Oh, that extra word in Parashas, "Bahaar," is to tell you a Khidush that the same, whenever you have a truea, it's the same truea, that it's gotta be a truea with a Rams horn. Now, how do you know that you have to do more than just a truea? Because it says, "Vahavarta." Havarta means something that crosses over, something that goes straight. You're Mavir, something, right? Avar, it goes on a straight line across. So from the word Havarta, I get this idea that it was preceded by this long extension, okay? How do you know you need one afterwards? Because it says the word Mavir again. So the word Mavir is unnecessary. And of course, we use that in the teal over of Amnon, right? (speaking in foreign language) So we use the word Mavir a lot in Rosh Hashanah based on that word, Avarta. But that's that straight movement, which if this is a blowing of a horn, then Havarta must be a horn blow. So this must be one long one, one straight one, the broken one, and then the straight one. So then Rabavo, the great room of those, said, "Look, we don't know what they are, "but I'll tell you, I'm making a Taqana "with all the halachos in Caesarea. "If you wanna be a darshan, listen to this. "Look where they made this Taqana of Kia Shofar "in the most Goyusha city in the world. "Too bad Jackie's that here. "He likes talking about this Kezariya, right? "This was like the knot. "This was like where the Goyam went to summer, right? "It was on the ocean. "This was like the fun and the sun placed "at the Goyam loved, Caesarea. "That's where they made the Taqana. "Kia is what? "Kia Shofar Shofar. "Trua, and then Tkia. "Why?" So the Gomorra says, "Why are you doing that? "Ilu le y'all. "It should be Tkia Shofar Tkia. "Yunuhhe Gonach Tkia, right? "It should be Tkia. "And then Shofar Shofar and then another Tkia. "Where do you get this business of Tkia, one long one? "Then you have the three, bam, bam, bam. "Trua, to do, right? Trua, to do, to do, right? "Then you have a Trua, Marzinska's. "We don't know what it is. "We don't know if it's Gonocha Gonach or you lule yolo. "And therefore you end up with how many? "You end up with nine, but where does nine become 30? "Let's find out. "Cause it's really 30 in a way. "Because, well, you have Tkia. "And then you have, well, let's see how we get 30. "I'm gonna show you how you get 30. "I'm gonna tell her you have to hear nine. "Trua Biovil, but it also says, okay, "so that should be Tkia, Trua Tkia, Tkia Shofar and Tkia. "Tkia, that's six, Tkia. "And then Shofar, Trua, Tkia. "So that would be 10. "So where do you get 30 from?" So you get 30 because it says the word Trua by Shofar three times. It says the word Trua, I'm sorry, the word Trua is said three times in the Torah. It's twice by Rosh Hashanah in one spa yoga. And since yoga is what helped me know what to show for, Khazal have this kabbalah. Again, it's all from motion, you see my problem, but that's the way we understand it to be. But you've got to do that three times. So therefore, every Trua is Prutah Chanel, Prutah Maharel. And therefore, what happens now is, so you have to do, Tarat, Tarat, Tarat. But we're not sure if it's Shofarim. So therefore, you've got to do Tashrat. And then you have to do Tashrat and Tarat. Let me explain what those things are. This is Trua, this is Tkia, Trua, Tkia, Rosh, it means Trua, Tashrat, Tshvarim, Trua. And then, Tashrat is only Shvarim. Now, as the missionary points out, let's say someone just does Tashrat. Hey, I'll do them both. All we're going to do, all you're going to do is then we'll do Tashrat three times. We did the Shvarim, we did the Trua, because maybe not. This maybe crying just means one, just means Shvarim. Three quick breaks. And by, listen to what I'm going to say, and by putting the Trua there, that's a hepsic between the Shvarim and the Tkia, Krona. Therefore, you've got to do Shvarim separately. You can't just do Shvarim, Trua, because the Trua is a hepsic. So that's why you've got to always do a Tarat. You have to do a Trua, you have to do a Tkia, Trua Tkia. And Tashrat can't work. Now, where do we get 100 then? That should be 30. Like I said, 10 times three. Where do you get a 100 from? So let's see. The Altereb says, some say, that after the Davening, Myrian Trua Gidola, below Tkia. Now that's what we do by this Fardim. We have a Tarua Gidola. Why? 'Cause that is that'll get the Sutton going. Shalo, you've conquered after Attila. Why? Because the Trua is the broken one. And what's the Sutton's Tina? All right, you had me at bay during Davening, where you're going now? Gonna go eat? Shaohokunva, Ohkunva Shoshun was making him. Why aren't you in front of God now? You have to go and press and put food in your belly. So in order to push the Sutton off and to give us a lesson, after Davening is over, we do a big Trua Gidola. And that's why we do that Trua to sort of say, the Sutton, no, no, no, we're going home. We're going home on the back of the giant Tarua. Okay. That's where, that's the Minag and Moshe, I don't know if you have the Valt here yet. You have your Valt here yet for the Fershoshun up? I'm not sure what it's gonna be, but whoever it is, maybe you should show-- - We're having a husband that is about here as well. - Okay, so I'm sure he knows this. That's the idea of doing that Tarua at the end. (speaks in foreign language) Now let me explain, we're gonna talk about where we get, there's an extra 30. Why is there an extra 30? (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Because it's a long Davening and maybe the Hazan didn't do all a great job. So we sort of do 30 at the end of Davening. And therefore these 30 will work no matter what, even though they're not connected to the Brukhot. So those are the two Minhugim that he quotes. One Minhug is to do one giant Tarua. The other one is to do another series of Tashat, Tarat, Tashat. But Yash know again to get 100 total. And where do you get 100 total? You get 100 like this. Davening, after Davening, you're gonna have 10. How does that become 100? Because, remember, you have the Tkias of the Myshav. Tkias of Myshav are 30. Then you're gonna blow another 30 during the Hazarata shots, and then you have the Tiwat Lakhash 30. So that's 90. And then you have an extra 10 to create 100. All right? So that's where you get 100. It doesn't explain why you get 100, but that's where you get 100 total. So in other words, he spurs, he talks about an extra 30, maybe, right? But then he says that should be Sakhakkol 100. Now the Arachashokhan quotes the idea of it's based on Medrasham, where you get 100 kolot from, Mayapoyot de pa'ya aima desisra. And he quotes the Arach, one of the earliest we've shown it. We have a kabbalah that cheated 100 commitches, a hundred tears. The tour quoting Ravamram says, remember what we said before, the minigas fired him? That it's a true agadola without an 8th year. But the tour says we don't have this minigas Ashkenazim. And that's why we don't do a true agadola. But, you know, the tour, the rush, they don't have that minute to do a true agadola. I don't know if you know who Harari is. He wrote some nice for him. He says that you really, the minimum amount is 30 kolot. The Ashkenazim do 100 each day and the spired him have 101. The first 30, as we know, are after the haptara. The other ones are in Musaf and, of course, those are gonna be, you get the other 60. Now, why are they called Muumad? Because you need to be standing. You don't need to be standing for the first Kiyot. Those are called Kiyotam Yushav. Now, Ravmeer Ha'i Uzziel has a nice Asmahtah for 100. Ha'i Uzziel has a nice Asmahtah for 100. It says kolha amim tikku kaf. Kaf is kaf, the letter kaf is 20. Hey, it's 80. Everybody tikku. In other words, the simple shot is we do this. Tikku kaf, but tikku could be blowing 100. Kolha amim tikku kaf. That's 100. And Ravmeer Ha'i Uzziel said, "Don't ever change anybody's minag." Ha'i Uzziel is shanot minagam shaw Yushav. Shumutukan bukobamar evotenu. I don't know what they're doing this year in COVID. I assume they're gonna have all 100 tikiyos. But maybe for Sakana, whatever. But generally, we should try to get those, but we should try to get even one to get a quick davanening. Wanna be able to get in the regular tpewa, the minig of 100 and 101. Now, the, okay. Let's take a look at one of the Xidoshirevies of Y ifesco Panet. He has a nice little Ramaz here. He says, "When the Torah on Rosh Hashanan just says yom taruwa. One, a day of true, and we end up having 100. And it's all a big sout. It's all from the secrets of creation, why we do all those 100s? Well, we get up to 100. But the truth is, when you know the reason, we know that you're gonna do it as resuits. You hope they're my own. It's important to understand, I guess, and that's why we try to about location, learn a little bit. Moshe, I don't know if it's the same avotov. Is he coming again, that avotov boy? I don't know. Nobody could come from Israel. We're not allowed to bring anybody from Israel. - Right. - But I remember he-- - I remember him from Queens, the other Israel. - The other Israel. I remember the boy was studying the Kavanote. I remember, 'cause I was with him, and I remember he was being Mahabend the Kavanote. Obviously, if you know the Kavanote, you're gonna do it in a different way. Let's talk a little bit again about the, about the (speaking in foreign language) We know one of the reasons we blow before. - That's right. - The more it says, (speaking in foreign language) We talk, right? What is the (speaking in foreign language) that the satan is (speaking in foreign language) So, to us as a reason. (speaking in foreign language) She'll have (speaking in foreign language) And this way, he's already, in other words, (speaking in foreign language) start being a bum now. Let's blow now. Let him now say, "God, no, no, no, no, don't listen to them." And then he (speaking in foreign language) And then we're gonna blow later in the Davening. That's the good part. In other words, this is the part that we think the satan is like (speaking in foreign language) And now, during the (speaking in foreign language) he's gonna leave us alone. That's one shot. That's our viva satan. Meaning get him and not to confuse him. In other words, okay, here's the show for blowing. Okay, here's my time to be the enemy. I'm my enemy now. He's not gonna be the enemy later. Some learn the opposite. The tour says that by blowing before Musaf, that makes him weaker later. Why does that make him weaker later? He says, "Because based on the (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) We know that death and the (speaking in foreign language) that represents death won't be around when that's on. In the future, death will not have the hold on us that it has now. In the (speaking in foreign language) even it won't mean as much. We still might die, but it's not gonna be the scariness of what death is the way it is now. 'Cause now we feel that we're missing. We're scared. We know we haven't done enough. We can't face God. Death is scary and horrible. It's love it. It's not gonna mean that to be Musa Mashiach. The Musa Mashiach, we know we're passing. We're gonna calmly pass from one state to the other. Vixiv, Vyomo, you talk to me show for God though. What is going to bring in? What is going to herald in the new period? A show for blast. That's gonna bring, that's gonna be the new period. We're death and the (speaking in foreign language) and the sultan is weak. So (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Bahil, below Bahil, he's scared. He says (speaking in foreign language) to the show for God though. Uh-oh. In other words, according to the (speaking in foreign language) the sultan doesn't even know what's happening. He's hearing the show far. He said, uh-oh. Is this the Musa Mashiach? Is this the end of Bugsy? Is this the end of Rico? Am I finished? Well, maybe I'm not. Oh no, here it comes again. They're blowing again. (speaking in foreign language) So therefore, blowing originally already puts him on edge. And what does this mean? It's obviously very, it's hard to understand (speaking in foreign language) because the sultan doesn't understand that it's, that it's, that it's right. Some doesn't understand that. It's a very, so if you take a look here, the authors of Surba try to explain it a little bit based on the smog. Take a look. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Meaning, and this goes back to what Shiva was talking about, when we are in that mode of the future world, it's sort of, it sort of feels like that. Especially if we Davenshakris and we really imagine that world right here, that imagine a (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) And we think about (speaking in foreign language) So we've sort of, in our mind, created that (speaking in foreign language) We've sort of been thinking about it. And when we blow the show for that's the reason why it generates a sense of (speaking in foreign language) in a way. Because we sort of, (speaking in foreign language) is a fool and the Sutton doesn't know today's (speaking in foreign language) It's that we can somehow really download and sort of bring within ourselves that new period that's coming, that period of (speaking in foreign language) And therefore, that's what it means that the sattan is more vague. I think that's really what we see over there. (speaking in foreign language) They asked the famous Ridvaz, the Ridvaz from Mitzrayim, Rupad ibn Zimrah. They asked him, why aren't people standing when people are blowing chauffeur? So he said, look, the main chauffeur blowing is what you do in Shmon Esrai. I was talking to Rabbi Herman, he told me this year, we were saying, the fact that they're taking out the PUTM by the Ashkenazim, we hope that everybody will be listening to the chauffeur during with Seder Brajot. 'Cause they can't say, oh, I'm so bored, I've been here so long. (speaking in foreign language) Is only a Takanah that we made, that the sattan should be more vague. And therefore, (speaking in foreign language) we said, look, you don't need to stand now because you're gonna be standing later. Later, you need to be standing. So, let's say somebody comes late and misses all the skills. And he comes at the end of the avenue. He comes at the end of the avenue to hear a 30 tk oat. That's when he's coming. So if that's when he's coming, he needs to be standing. Because tk oat the right vasez need to be makayim, the mitzvah from the utohra properly, you need to be standing. Okay? That's what the right vasez. The tour gives somewhat of a different reason why we have to be standing, because it says the word (speaking in foreign language) What's, where do you see (speaking in foreign language) Now, I don't know where this is, I don't know this to be a Gamara anywhere. I do not believe it's a Gamara. I don't know where it is. Maybe you can find it. (speaking in foreign language) Just like it says by the Omer. It says (speaking in foreign language) So by Trua, it also says (speaking in foreign language) And we know you have to count the Omer standing up because it says (speaking in foreign language) You start counting when the site cuts (speaking in foreign language) While you're standing, meaning (speaking in foreign language) While you're standing. So (speaking in foreign language) It says (speaking in foreign language) to chauffeur and therefore chauffeur, you need to be standing. Again, that's a very, how we know that, it's a stretch, but that is what the tour quotes is the reason why the chauffeur blowing, you should be standing. And maybe this is why we have a minute to stand even before Musaf, even though (speaking in foreign language) I didn't, you don't have to be standing during Musaf. Now, when we talk about one of the hardest (speaking in foreign language) for people to keep and show, okay? This is one of the hardest (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Here it is. You're (speaking in foreign language) You're (speaking in foreign language) The (speaking in foreign language) You can't talk. Now, there's once that first brook has made, you're not supposed to talk for the end of the (speaking in foreign language) Because it's one brook on all of them. (speaking in foreign language) The riff has to write (speaking in foreign language) The riff knew Al Fosse knew 1,000 years ago. People had a hard time keeping this, and you have (speaking in foreign language) Give a guy a dirty look. Wave, wag your finger at him. The riff says. The, now, obviously, about okay, I shouldn't be speaking. But as one of the (speaking in foreign language) says, no one can talk because he's your (speaking in foreign language) So it's as if you're blowing. So if you're blowing, you can't stop. Now, what would be if you do talk? I hope if you had to talk, you have to speak to your kid. Something happened. (speaking in foreign language) Where do we know that from? From the tour quoted by the Ramallah. (speaking in foreign language) If you did speak after the brook out, you don't have to go make the brook again. That is the sack of the Ramallah. Now, Mr. Barasks, shouldn't it be like a Tillan? If you speak between the two, the Tillan Choyad, the Tillan Choyarose. So you don't, I'm sorry, over there. You can talk between the two. Says that's different. That's two different mitzvahs. Here, it's one mitzvah. (speaking in foreign language) Some are grown and say, by the way, that if you talk between Bitashrat, (speaking in foreign language) let's say the following happens. It's taqiyyah. And then the person does shwarim, trua, right? Remember? The shwarim is quick. Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, right? The trua is longer. That's in shwarim and trua. If you talk between the two, even though you were saying something, you're not yodes it. Because obviously the talk can be a hepsic in the two. There it is. As I said, if the minagithro is to stand, even the ones before Musaaf, and as we say before, if you know that you're not going to be there for Musa, the women who might come and leave, they should stand, Meikara did. Or we still got trula. Okay. So that's-- - And can they talk after they hear the 30 kollos then? - So that's a good question. Because that's usually what happens, right? - Right. - Don't women come in? People with babies? - Right. - If they're not planning on staying for the shwarim and s-ray, then that's, then they can talk. What I would say is this shila. If women, again, what's hard is the following. It's really, they should come up with a different eta. The problem is, is that during shwarim and s-ray, for some reason, they feel you know, they'd have to be worried with the babies that they have. But when it's done, when the 30 are done all in one shot, that gives them enough period to be able to hold the kids all right at bay. But to wait for the next hour and pick up 60 or 30 during shwarim and s-ray. - Right, it's too hard for them. - So obviously, if a woman doesn't have children yet or her children are grown, but there are other reasons why she needs to be home, maybe to help her daughter-in-law, or to help the grandchildren. And there's a choice of when to come to shul. The best time to come to shul would be to hear the keos on the freshman s-ray. The problem is, there aren't any brochos being said then. - Right. - 'Cause the brochos are said for the men and for everybody before the keos dem yushaf. So it's sort of like you're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Still the brochos aren't, you know, one hand you have the mitzvah without the brochah. On the other hand, you have the mitzvah done right. It's a good question. I'm not sure. I don't have a great answer for that. Because clearly, when the lady comes for shmon s-ray, the man blowing the chauffeur has in mind to be motsy her anyway, for whatever mitzvah she would have. I think especially if we go like the spardom who don't, women don't make the brochah on a mitzvah s-a-saysha's man-grama, it's clear that you should come only for the shmon s-ray. She doesn't make a brochah anyway. The brochah's irrelevant to her. So therefore, even according to Ashkenazim, if a woman would have a choice, I would say the best time to come. I mean, again, it's a toss up, I'm not sure. I'd say the best time to come would be for the shmon s-ray. - Thanks for joining us for another episode from the Shibuv New Work at IDT Podcast. Be sure to subscribe on your favorite podcast app so you don't miss a single episode. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) [BLANK_AUDIO]