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The Bengals, and let's talk a little bit about this because we know that Devin's favorite team this year is Cincinnati Bengals. They are one in four after that overtime loss to the Baltimore Ravens. Their preseason odds to win the Super Bowl were 13 to one. They're down to 30 to one and I'm surprised it's that high. But there still is this sense that Joe Borough will take over at some point. It almost worked on Sunday against the Ravens. And they do have a softer stretch of the schedule. I made the prediction yesterday that when you look at their upcoming four games, they will be five and four when they go to Baltimore for the rematch on Thursday night, week 10. I think they will. I think the time has come. They've got the Giants, the Browns, the Eagles, and the Raiders. I think they're going to win the next four. And I mean the Eagles, that's probably the biggest challenge of the four, but I think they're going to win the next four. And I know that the ridiculously premature and based on no analysis whatsoever just gut feeling, but I think they're going to do it. I think I just think they're going to do it. And I think they're going to begin the process of digging out. And if they don't soon, Devin, they're going to, we talked about this on Sunday night, you're running out of games. You've already got four losses. There's only so many more and not many more you can lose before you're just done. As much as I get irritated that everyone so easily says, oh, it's fine. Like they get off to slow starts. I understand why they said because again, Joe Burrow is that good. Like I played against him in 2022. And even though he's a young player, he was one of those guys that it was just like, if you line up in the defense, you're in. He knows where to go and he will pick you apart. And we saw that Sunday. I don't think Baltimore did a good job disguising. I thought they kind of gave up their coverages. And Joe Burrow dice Baltimore's defense up. It's a good defense in Baltimore. They just shut out Buffalo the week before and just dominated them on defense. And Cincinnati March up and down the field because of Joe Burrow. Yes, T Higgins, Jamar Chase, absolute studs. He threw when he threw one pass to Jamar Chase, that was a two-yard loss and Jamar Chase did the rest with it. But it's Burrow understanding to get to that check to throw to Jamar Chase so he can do what he does. So I understand why. But my whole thing is in the NFL, you cannot build bad habits. You can't keep doing things a certain way and just hope that Joe Burrow and the offense of T Higgins and Jamar Chase will just save you because it's just too hard. This is Cincinnati Bengals. You're going to get the Raiders best shot. You're going to get the Giants best shot Sunday night. You're going to get the Eagles best shot. You're going to get these teams that they know beating you means it's a little bit of a measure stick. Even though their record isn't there yet this year, there's still the Bengals. It's Joe Burrow. People believe that they're that good. So when you set yourself up to not be able to finish games that you're in control of and that you really have won and you don't, you walk away with a loss or you don't come out and play at the level you should play from beginning to end like they did against the New England Patriots. You then lose another game. You can't set yourself up for then when you don't play your best again and this other team comes out and plays their absolute best game that you can't find a way to win because you haven't built the habits. You haven't done that over and over again. So then you fall short again and then maybe you win two or three more games in a row, but then you have another slip up because then you look up and you're like, wow, we have eight losses this year because we blew in the beginning of this season and started one and four. 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To go from playing safety where you're off the ball, you're a little bit 15 yards back, reading the quarterback, and then you're right there playing man-to-man on every snap or you're four yards, two yards away from a guy at corner. It's just, I hate to see that. I just think if your defense and your secondary needs to take your starting safety and move them to outside corner, you're probably in pretty bad shape. So last week, they seen him move him back inside more. He played a lot of nickel corner and they put Turner outside at the outside corner more, but now you lose him. And this is a secondary that already was struggling. So some people might say it doesn't matter because they haven't been able to do a good job in the run game or in the past game, but to lose him. But again, I thought Taylor hit it on the head. It's five games into the season. There's no more of like, well that just happened then. Like this is who we are guys. Like we have to change what we're doing. We have to change who we are. We have to go and have a mindset in practice. This is what we need to do because we keep making this mistake. We need to rep it over and over again. Drain it, drill it into our brains that we can't let this happen. We can't have bad hold at the end of a game. When we go to set up a kick. Like we have to just have a sense of urgency. And I think one of the things they can do in every single period cut down your mistakes. That is a game, right? You go out there and you practice. You have an offensive period, a defensive period, a special team period. Each time let's walk away with a limited number of mistakes that anybody can make. Because right now they are, this guy gets to make a mistake. That guy gets to make a mistake and then you look up. It's like, well, we've made 15 different mistakes by 15 different players. Which ultimately leads to a loss. They have to cut that down and it starts in practice with them. And look, I'd be remiss if I didn't point out the fact that just like the Cowboys and they're sluggish on offense, although they're starting to come around. The CD lamb hold out was a cloud over the team. That was unnecessary. That was avoidable. Set your deadline earlier, get your deal done, get your player in. The Bengals had the Jamart Chase thing that hovered over them all throughout camp, all throughout the preseason. In two week one, 90 minutes before kickoff, we didn't know whether or not Jamart Chase was going to play in that week one game. And then he was upset, rightfully so. He thought they weren't being truthful with him about what they intended to do. And cheapness is the common thread between the Cowboys and the Bengals. That's how it can, there's never going to be a bright line. But I think if you get it, you know, and you're looking for reasons why the team hasn't gotten off to the start that it needs to. When you have factors like that, that becomes something you can point to and say, well, you know, maybe these distractions, these issues, this acrimony, that it's just set the, you need to have the right mood. You need to have the right atmosphere to get off to a good start. Look at Washington, they're talking about how great the culture is and how everything's just falling together. You need that. And if you don't, you get yourself into a hole that you can't get out of and are the Browns. Now between the Bengals and the Browns, I've got more faith in the Bengals to turn it around because number one, we've seen them do it before earlier in the year, but nevertheless. And the Browns, I don't know where they are right now. I don't think they know where they are right now. They've gone from 40 to one to 400 to one. And that's still a bad bet. I mean, the chances of the Browns and watch, I'm probably laying the foundation for the Browns to win the Super Bowl. The chances of the Browns digging out of this at this point, especially unless they change quarterbacks, I don't get it. Here's Kevin Safansky, coach of the Browns from yesterday on his starting quarterback, Deshawn Watson, and the rest of the team's offense. This is not a one person type of deal. When we're playing how we're playing offense, we need everybody to do their job and do their job better. And I look at myself and how I can do that. But I believe in Deshawn, I believe in what he brings to this offense, and I believe he will play better. Just what changes are you considering to get this offense going on track? Yeah, I think we have to look at everything, Darrell, how we put it together. You know, really just take a long hard look at what we're doing. And again, I think it goes back to any success on offense. It comes from giving the guys a plan that they can go execute at a high level. I believe in the coaches we have, I believe in the players we have, and we will get it fixed together. Hey, look, and this becomes the common thread for so many teams. Offensive line issues, offensive line injuries, it makes it impossible for your scope position players to do their jobs. And that may be the core of any offense that is struggling currently. But they don't have Nick Chub. Well, they didn't have him for most of last year, and they've made it to the playoffs. And they looked like a team that could make a run even though they ultimately didn't. They didn't bring back Joe Flacko because they couldn't because he'd be starting right now if they brought him back. They added Jerry Judy, but again, if you can't get the passing game going, it doesn't matter. And at some point, if the operation just isn't working, the only change that you can make to give the operation a kick in the butt is a quarterback. Just for something different. Just for a spark. We hear that all the time. We need a spark. Well, you're not going to get a spark from a new left guard. You're going to get a spark from a new quarterback. And I agree with the fans. It's not all on the show. I fully understand it. It's the NFL. It's football. There's 11 guys who take the field together. It's never going to be on just one guy. But like you said, it comes down to the results on what we want. We're not doing what we need to do on offense. So how do we change that? What is one way to change that? And I think for them, it's switching the quarterback. They're deciding, Hey, maybe if we put James Winston in there, it'll give us a little bit of a spark. 2021 2022, whatever year it was where we were in New England and you take out Matt Jones and you bring in Bailey Zappi. Even in a game, we play Chicago. It gave us a spark. We ended up losing. It didn't work out, but it gave us a spark. And the coaching staff decided like, Hey, we need to do this to try to get a spark to try to get something going. And I think Cleveland's in that boat right now where, yes, we understand it's not all to show our Watson, but to try to salvage our season to try to get something going. This is the number one way we've identified is a way to get us going to try to change something because other than that, I don't know what it is. Like to show Watson, yes, he threw a ball to Jerry Judy in the end zone last week. Judy should have caught it. He dropped the ball like we understand those things happened, but I don't know is taking Judy out and putting a different receiver. I don't think that's going to be an impactful change to help them go out there and play better on offense. It's just as you look at this team, the only decision that is to be made is putting James Winston in there and seeing what kind of spark. What can James Winston do to help this team because guys on that team have spoken about his leadership and how he's approached the season. What he was able to do in the preseason for the younger guys. It just seems like, Hey, why not give him his shot with this team because they have a good defense. Let's see if we can turn this around and start winning some football games. And this is what Chris will call the politics of football, the idea that they made that massive investment into Sean Watts with three first round picks, three other picks, 230 million fully guaranteed on a five year deal. You can't fold the tents. You can't give up. We can't admit that we made a mistake. We can't do this. You're paying them either way. You don't have to play them. Guarantee contract doesn't guarantee playing time. You can try to make chicken salad and try to win football games unless the goal is to just let it keep going, let nature take its course and then earn the first overall pick in the draft. Try to take a quarterback and have that quarterback say, I'm not coming there. I got my NIL money. Nope. I'm not signing the contract with the Cleveland Browns. So I agree with you completely. And it's not all on to Sean, but that's the one area where when it's not working. And as Jason Garrett said, on Sunday, it doesn't have to be temporary or permanent. Excuse me, it can be temporary. It's not like you're going to fire him. You're still paying him. You're paying him for two more years. You're not going to fire him. You're just giving him a step back and trying to get something going. And then maybe at the appropriate time he comes back in and everything settled down. And the last thing I was saying, I think this is where ownership has to come into play. Like, you're the ones on the hook for paying this contract. It's okay to come downstairs, knock on Kevin's and fancy's office and say, Hey, coach, I don't, I'm not telling you what to do. But eventually to Sean Watson is what you want to do when you think it can help. You have our support. We support that. We back it. Because then it takes the pressure off the fence. And I have no idea how the Browns organization works. But I just know ownership is usually what everyone says, Hey, they don't make decisions. They're just the owners. You're the owners. It's your team. So if there's a way that you can help the team, I think this situation seems like it would really help. If the GM, whether it's Barry, whether it's defensive, they knew like, Hey, one of the hook for paying this guy, but hey, ownership has our back and making the decision to make this team better. Because I do. I think that would essentially make this an easy decision for Sifanski. The owners are always involved. And they like to have someone else who takes the blame when the decisions go badly, except for Jerry Jones. And I respect him because he owns it. I'm the GM. I can't fire myself. Sorry, people. I'm in charge of this team. A lot of these owners, I'd say most, if not all of the owners are involved at some level. And you can't. Could you imagine benching a guy they paid that kind of money to and gave up that much for without getting the approval of ownership? That's what that's what got Brad Childress fired by the Vikings in 2010 when he dumped Randy Moss and called him a programmatic non fit. I still don't know what that means 14 years later. He had full control over the roster, but you still need to let the person who can fire you know how you're using control over the roster. Yeah, owners are involved. And I said this yesterday, Devin, dysfunction comes from the very top of a football team. And also, if it's going well, it comes from the very top. You have owners who know how to hire the right people and get out of the way, except for the really big stuff. And then you have owners who can't let go and think that they can fix everything. And because I was successful in this business, that means it all translates to football. And if I work really hard and if I want it bad enough, I'll get it like David Tepper. And Jimmy Haslam falls closer to the Tepper side of the spectrum. We've seen it for the past dozen years that he's owned the team in Cleveland. All right. By the way, DraftKings Sportsbook is the number one place to bet touchdowns. And new customers can bet $5 and get $200 in bonus bets instantly download the app and use promo code PFT live when you sign up DraftKings Sportsbook. The crown is yours. And thanks for the odds that we mentioned earlier as to the Bengals and Browns chances of winning the Super Bowl book before the season. And now there was an item of news last night. And this was one of those moments where and first world problem. I don't know complaining about your cool job. I don't know, but I will tell you the story, Devin. Yesterday morning. And I know we're already over time, but I'm at the NFG stage of my career too. So the game goes to one o'clock. The alarm goes off at 5.30. PFT live. I snuck in a 45 minute nap before I went to the airport, travel all day, get home. Your reward for getting home when you do what I do is get your ass back to work. Got back to work. My wife had to run a few errands. Got home. We're going to have dinner. It's like, I'm going to have dinner relax a little bit and then go watch the Monday night game. So as soon as I sit down, I mean, the fork is in the air. I get the phone call about the settlement of the DeShawn Watson lawsuit. And here's our statement. And, you know, this is news. So it's like, shit, I had to be up. Honey, I'll be right back. And so run into the room and type up the story. Copy, paste, snarky, comment, as Chris would say. But this was the news from last night. And I felt this coming because it was the Monday after the regular season opening day that the lawsuit was filed against the Sean Watson. And my understanding of his contract, and I got it, I read the whole thing. It's like, well, this guy, he may have a problem here. This may be the get out of jail free card for the Browns because if he gets suspended again, and if he didn't disclose this claim to the Browns in writing before signing his contract, they can rip up the remaining guarantees. And I remember saying at the time, I don't want to be cynical about this. And I don't want to, I mean, I understand these are serious allegations, but once it goes into the legal system, it takes on a different life of its own. It becomes a, it becomes something that is the subject of potential negotiation. It has a cash value that gets attached to it. That happens all the time. Horrible injury accidents, wrongful death, somebody gets run over by a truck, medical malpractice, wrongful discharge of employment, sexual assault, anything that results in a civil war. And it results in a civil lawsuit can be resolved. And it got real quiet. And I was saying in the viewing room on Sunday, I think I was telling Frank Gidelli this, I got a feeling that case settled. Because last we heard the alleged victim is going to meet with the NFL and we haven't heard anything more about it. And the smart move, you got 92 million writing on it, you treat it like a business transaction, and you resolve it. And lo and behold, it's been resolved. And it tells me that number one, there's not going to be any cooperation with the league and the league can't do much of anything to the Sean Watson if the alleged victim won't cooperate. Number two, he probably was looking at the loss of 92 million dollars if he got suspended over this. And number three did the smart thing. Look at how they fought the other cases. They fought him tooth and nail. This one, it doesn't even get off the ground and it's settled. And that's the news, it's settled, which means whatever would happen next, he's probably not facing another suspension, which means the Browns aren't going to have any easy out from the last two years of this contract. And it'll be, it'll be interesting to see if this helps him even on the football field because that's a lot going on in your life where, you know, obviously everything that happened prior to this and it seemed like he had settled that and moved on. And then this one pops up out of nowhere and now he's back into, you know, addressing it in the media, talking to a lawyer every single day or every other day on the phone to address the issue. So moving on from it seems like maybe it can help him on the football field, but again, every time this comes up, it's just a situation that I know the league has to be sitting there saying like, why do we have to keep dealing with this situation? And it's unfortunate because it is when you get any situations, it's, you know, her story and his story and it's a back and forth. And it's just, and I think from the public eye and a fan perspective, you never get anything out of this anyway. It settles, you never hear another word about it, you don't know what happened, was it true, was it not true? It just all kind of goes away because you settle it with money, you sign some NDAs and it's all done. So now I think from a football standpoint, it's just, it goes into what do we get out of Deshawn Watson? Like, is he now free of this? Can he go play football or like life in so many different ways? This stuff doesn't just leave you no matter what, all these things that continue to come up and someone says this and that and it just seems like it's had a huge impact on his career that you sit here and wonder, are we ever going to see the Deshawn Watson that we saw in the past? Or has all of this stuff in the time away from football just weighed him down? And here's one last point I'll make and then we need to take a break. If he had been suspended by the league, remember there's a new procedure where the league proposes a suspension and there's an independent party that determines whether or not a violation occurred and what the punishment should be. And the appeal rights for the NFL back to the commissioner are limited only to the extent of the punishment, not the facts as the retired judge. Sue Robinson is her name who handled the Deshawn Watson case two years ago, would find them to be. She concluded and there were four different cases that were presented for it, four of the more than 20 individuals who had accused him of wrongdoing, testified, told their story, I don't even know if they testified, but their story was told. And at the end of the day, she concluded to Sean Watson was not credible in one or more respect. So when you already have the person who's making the final decision, express concerns about the believability of your version, you don't want to go back there. In another he said she said, when the person who's making the decision already has misgivings about whether and to what extent you're telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, Devin, you don't want to go back there. Because it's probably not going to end the way you want it to. So all the more reason, and again, I know it makes people, I get it, I lived in that world for 18 years where a horrible thing happened or allegedly happened, but now it becomes something that has a potential price tag on it as part of the administration of justice. That's just how it works. The case is either going to go to trial and a jury is going to attach a dollar value to what happened or we're going to come up with a way to resolve it ahead of time. 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That is slang.com/play slang.com/play. Good morning Mike and you have to tell the captain, Devin McCordy. I think he was a captain 12 or 13 years that I had to stand in for him. I stood in for the captain so I don't know what that's worth. Maybe a pat on the back, a pat on the head, something like that. But then it's kind of bad for the listeners and the viewers. They were expecting Devin McCordy and they get Michael Ollie. That's kind of a, that's not really what you're looking for. That's great. No, it was so funny Devin because last week you weren't able to do Tuesday. You did Thursday instead so, and Michael Ollie moved from Wednesday to Tuesday. So we shuffled the deck a little bit. So after Ollie does Tuesday, people start emailing me, "Oh, you're already pissed off Devin." And then when Ollie didn't do Wednesday, "Oh, you already pissed off Ollie." It's like Ollie was just on Tuesday. He wasn't on Wednesday, he was on Tuesday. So no, I haven't already pissed him off unless I pissed him off last Tuesday. And then Devin will be back on Thursday. So no matter how I explained to the people, there's always somebody who just assumes I've pissed someone off, which is in most cases, a pretty safe assumption. Very true. You can't go wrong with Holly. Shout out Holly. We all represent the ball gang. So keep doing your thing, Michael Holly. All right. NFL doing his thing through five weeks. This is going to be a game of this or that. Biggest surprise or relative to the choice is two. It's bigger because it's got to be more than two to be big assed. I learned that in the fifth grade. All right. But I've since forgotten it. Bigger surprise. The Vikings at five and over. The commanders at four and one, Devin. Commanders at four and one. Rookie quarterback, Jayden Daniels is a stud just out there dominating. And I think a lot of people thought he was going to be good, but they thought the team wouldn't be good. And he wouldn't be able to have success with the guys on the team. So for them to be four and one, what a new head coach, new owner. All of those new, all the newness about the commanders. Big shout out to the commanders. I think that's a bigger, a bigger surprise. I'm more surprised by the Vikings and I can back this up with a couple of things. Number one. And I've mentioned this before. I don't know if I've mentioned this to you, but when we're at the scouting combine talking to defensive players and we try to ask every one of them. Who is the toughest guy you faced in college? The SEC guys said without hesitation and in hushed reverent tones, Jayden Daniels. And it got us to thinking this guy might have something. And between that and all the change they're trying to make and the NFC East versus the NFC North this year, I think it's no contest. You've got all four teams in the NFC North above 500. All four teams are good in the NFC North. I thought the Vikings on paper were the number four of four teams in the division in, in the East. I mean, Washington's third, I thought going in and I also, and these don't mean anything because you get them as, as wrong as you get them right. I did pick the commanders to make the playoffs. So I kind of thought something was going to, I had a better feeling about them than I did about the Vikings. So I'm more surprised by the Vikings. I just thought the Vikings would be one and four at this point. Here they are five and oh, you just, you just can't get out of the way of being a Vikings fan. You can't think positively the Vikings like they have the best coaching situation in NFL. So you knew no matter what they were going to be there and have a chance. Maybe not five and oh, but the commanders four one and looking like the NFC East favorites right now early in the season could not have predicted that. How long have you been alive? So 37 long, long, long years. All right. Okay. Add 13 long years on top of that. Okay. And that's how long I've been conditioned to accept that whenever it feels like it's going well, that's when the bottom is going to drop out. So that's, so that's your life plus almost plus more than a third has been my experience over and over again year after year dealing with what I know is eventually going to happen this year as well. Bigger surprise between the jets at two and three and the 49ers at two and three. What's your bigger surprise? It's got to be the 49ers and the truth of the matter being two and three is not a horrible thing in the NFL. You're a game away from 500. You can still do everything you want to do. But we just see the 49ers as this like dominant football team. We've talked about them being one of the most complete teams in the NFL. So you just always pictured in either undefeated, maybe one loss. You just don't even, I didn't think they would be, you know, two and three at this point in the season. And so, and the hard thing I think with the 49ers is somebody's getting two of the games they lost, they were up big, they should have won. So you definitely didn't expect to see them at two and three. Yeah, I agree with you completely coming into the year the jets were in that category of teams that I don't know what they're going to do. Let's just see. And it bothered me that there was this presumption that, okay, Aaron Rodgers gets injured on the fourth snap of the first game last year. This is the rest of the year and he's going to come back and everything's fine. He's going to play 17 games. He's going to be healthy. The team's going to be great. It's like, that's just not realistic. They got three games between September 9 and 19 to start the season. They're getting jerked all over the place. Primetime here, London there, it's a grind before the season even gets rolling. I mean, by their buy week, they are going to be cooked at least just physically how they feel. And so that doesn't surprise me that they're at two and three. The 49ers, this reminds me of 2020, the year after they last lost to the Chiefs and the Super Bowl. They had injuries, they fell off. And the next thing you know, they're just an also ran in the conference and in the division. And it hurts for them to be 0 and 3 in the conference and 0 and 2 in the division because the tie breakers are not going to be on their side once we get down to the Steve Cornacki phase of the season and we're charting out the percentages of how and why and when a team gets in. All right, bigger surprise between the one and four Jaguars and the one and four Cleveland Browns. Well, we just talked about before it's definitely the Cleveland Browns. This team made the playoffs last year without their starting quarterback Joe Flacko comes in. This defense, I think I've ranked their secondary the first secondary in the NFL. One of the top five defenses coming in. You just thought like, hey, if we just get to show Watson to have a little bit of that magic he had in Houston, this team forget being one and four. This team could be a contender to be one of the top teams in AFC and it is just not happening. I don't know how many people had, you know, really high expectations for the Jaguars coming into this year. Well, I think that I'm more surprised by the Browns because they were also in that I don't know what they're going to be category. They were the biggest wild card last year and they made it to the playoffs. They were the biggest wild card this year and they're one and four. The Jaguars I felt like were, yeah, the way it ended last year. What have they really done to get better? So I am more surprised by the Browns just because I didn't know what to expect from the Browns this year. And when you look at the defense and just all the factors, it's just something's off and it hurts worse. I think for fans, when you really start to think we're building something, we're building something and then it all falls flat. By the way, by the way, to further reinforce the point I was making earlier, I do have the double whammy as it relates to football fandom cousin texted me to point out that the way I describe being a Vikings fan for 50 years, the exact thing, the same thing applies to being a fan of the West Virginia Mountaineers that every time it feels like, except we're playing Rutgers every time it feels like it's going the right way. You knew that was coming. Every time it feels like it's going the right way. It all implodes. I kind of like this show, although the West Virginia, it does a lot of white, no, West Virginia has some good years. Well, no, but, but, but, you know, I really don't want to pick at this scab. But December, 2007, the table was set where 28 point favorites over pit. All we got to do is win that game and, and it's, and I think that year, playing on turf, the way that that Mountaineers offense was premised would have run circles around Ohio State for the national championship. And it all disappeared in a, oh, that's your fault. You want to think a national championship from West Virginia? That's your fault. That's ridiculous. No, no, no, no. I'm telling you, Devin, it was, I know your brain doesn't want to accept that, but West Virginia, we, we, we win that game, we're in the national championship, and I think they would have, they would have beaten Ohio State that year. And I especially think it because they didn't get a chance to do it. If they got a chance to do it, they would have lost, but they didn't get a chance to do it. So in my mind, they would have won. All right. Let's take a break. The latest on a couple of receivers, Devante Adams, or she writes next year on BMT Live. It's only been a week since it became obvious the Raiders would end up trading Devante Adams. They have four weeks Devin from today to get it done. They want to get it done sooner than that. They reportedly want to do it in the next 48 hours, but they also want a second round pick. At some point you got to decide what your priority is. You want to get it done fast. You're going to have to come off that second round pick unless you're paying like all of his salary, except the league minimum, or you're going to send like a four with him. They could get a face saving two out of this if they give up something like a fourth round draft pick as part of the package for any situations. How often do teams accept any call like the New England Patriots. The New England Patriots call the Raiders. Are they like, nah, we're not going to do Devante Adams and send him to a team, you know, where maybe Drake May is about to play and they call and they try to say, hey, we'll go put our rookie in there. Come here or the Raiders like, hey, Devante, do you want to go? No. Okay. And just shut it down. I think in this case, because I believe a deal was broke between Devante Adams and Antonio Pierce before the season where Adams says, I'm giving you a clean slate. And if we get to a point where I decide I want to move on, will you move me? Sure, I will. We'll accommodate you. I think they, they, I get the feeling they're working with them the same way that the 49ers were working with Brandon Ayuk because they could have traded into the Patriots and he reportedly didn't want to go. Now who knows how much of that's a hundred percent accurate, but the 49ers were leaking a lot of stuff at the time. I think there's a handful of teams that Adams would play for. And there's also, you know, a team in the division that the Raiders won't trade him to. Shefty pointed it out last night. It's not happening with the Chiefs. I don't even know if the Chiefs want him. There's no way the Raiders are trading him to Kansas City and handing him a piece that could, could end up contributing to three Super Bowl wins in a row. The fans would never let Mark Davis here at the end of it. So the Jets and the Saints are the two that get mentioned. I don't know how real the Saints are. I think the Saints are being used as a potential destination to get the Jets to do something stupid because the Jets have done that before, but lately on Bell in 2019, they got, they got fooled into thinking the Ravens were a major player and they weren't and they gave up too much. I think they're trying to get the Jets to think there's another player out there so the Jets give up more than they should, but it feels like, I still know what the Jets going to do with him when he got Al Lazard and Garrett Wilson and, and Mike Williams, but I think it feels like it's going to be the Jets unless like the Bills wake up and say we should do this, which I think they should, I feel like it's going to be the Jets. The Vante Adam, do you see that helmet behind me? All I'm saying, New England Patriots, they're going to start, you know, they'll get something going, come to New England, they'll make it nice and easy for you to pay you that contract, everything you need. Don't worry about going to the Jets and the AFC East rival, go to New England. But it's just a part year rental. That's the problem. His contract next year, you're going to tear it, unless he comes through the door with a new contract, you're going to tear it up after this year. So I don't think he's going to be around long enough to be part of the solution in New England, because I don't know, even if he plays five more years, I feel like he's going to take five more years to the song. Not five. Not five. I'll go three, three-year plan in New England, get, get Drake on the field. They're teetering on a mutiny, get Drake on the field. I think Drake may, I think he might be after watching the game yesterday. I think Drake may possibly might be coming on the field sooner than later for the Patriots. We won't be seeing Rushy Rice anytime soon. There's still kind of a haze over his status. LCL needs to be repaired reportedly who have surgery today. The ACL is believed to be intact. It's called in one breath. He won't be back this season. And then it's a three month injury. I still think they like to have a vague sense that he might play. So if he resolves his off field issue, takes his suspension, it won't look weird to people are like, it's not really a suspension if you're not able to play anyway. But he still would have to give up the game checks. But if you're him, hey, I got to miss these games anyway. And if I'm looking at the suspension, let's do both of them at once. So I can come back and play in 2025. I don't fault him for that. He still would have to give up his game checks that he would make during the term of the suspension debit. Yeah, he just needs to make sure he does whatever's right for that knee. Be like, we talked about Sunday going inside to take a look at the knee like that sound is so sketchy and I'm not sure how to all work out. But he's a young player who show potential just take care of the knee now. So it does a hamper you later. All right, let's take a break. When we return, once upon a time, there was a contract clause for Kyler Murray that seemed to prevent him from playing video games. Now he has a contract that requires him to discuss that next on PFT Live. Well, Kyler is practicing Call of Duty Black Ops 6. So who's stepping in? Me. I'm the quarterback now. Enough questions, enough questions. Let's hit the showers. Man, that was weird. That was weird. This is not weird. If you know Kyler Murray, he likes to play some video games. They want to put a clause in this contract, require him to study a certain number of hours per week. That clause got removed because it just, dysfunctional teams do dysfunctional things and it was the height of dysfunction for the Cardinals to even do that. The guy can play, football's a priority. And when you have those kinds of skills, how much do you really need to study? When you can run circles around everybody, that play on, that play on Sunday, that's my favorite play of the year so far. The 50-yard touchdown run, when he throws his arm up at the 43 with three guys around him, Kyler Murray's back and he is fun to watch. This right here, that's a special speed burst, he's like, you said he plays video games. He was running normal and then he hit the turbo button and as he hit the turbo button, he also hit the celebration button to point to the sky and he left his 49ers deep as no. There's a touchdown baby, that's incredible to accelerate as you're pointing up and run by all of these other fast players. The dude is definitely special. Shut up, call a duty man, get a duck, Kyler Murray, versatility. That's right and look, be thinking about life after football, although for him, the way he's playing now, life after football is still going to be a ways off. Let's take a break, more PFT Live right after this. It's beautiful and they get so focused on Mark and Isaiah, they forget about the fat white guy right now, they see him and I'm also open, I know what to do and Mark threw it, I got yelled at for not scoring again, so I gotta fix that but I think it was a little chain reaction because I didn't score so Isaiah could score but then Mark paid me a favor and then got to tackle my two so I like to score it so I think beautiful day. Good stuff and just one of the things that happened this past weekend, we often do Sunday statement draft on Monday, sometimes we run out of time because Chris and I talked too much so because we didn't talk too much today but we almost did Sunday statement draft for week five, who you got? Oh man, statement draft, again, I think we gotta go back to Cleveland. I think what what are we going to do in this situation? I think the statement Cleveland makes this week is at some point, James Winston goes into the game. I'll make two statements. I think New England Patriots same situation, Drake May goes into the game this week. Those two teams, we see the backup quarterback, biggest statement that was made this weekend was Baltimore going into Cincinnati where the Bengals, slow starters, trying to turn it around desperate. You know, we heard Josh Allen say last week that the bills didn't have urgency when they went to Baltimore. Well, why would you not think going in to play a desperate Baltimore team would would require urgency, the Ravens brought the urgency in a big way against the Cincinnati Bengals to get that win in overtime? Yeah, I mean, Baltimore is turning into what we thought they would be. It's fun to watch us see how Baltimore is taking it week by week and getting better and finding again ways to win football games. Any other things stand out to you from, from week five? I guess the next thing I would go with is Buffalo. I think what we saw the first couple of weeks of Buffalo and what we've seen the last two weeks of Buffalo bills, it seemed like they were going to run off with this division. I picked the Jets in the beginning of the season. I still think that the Jets will find a way to win this division because of the way Buffalo has been looking. I say this with some trepidation because I'm not ready to write off Aaron Rodgers because I've seen him play since the moment he replaced Brett Favre in 2008. But I don't know how to put it because I don't want, I mean, look, it's just, it's different. It's different. Is that fair to say? It's just different. It's different than what I'm used to. And we saw him against the Patriots on that Thursday night. I thought he was back and it was exciting. He's zipping the ball. He had to throw down the middle of the Tyler Conquence like whoa, whoa. He's back. But since then, I just think the physical toll, the wear and tear, it adds up the knee. Now the ankle. Devin, it's going to be harder and harder for him to run away. It's going to be harder and harder for him to do the things he used to do. And we're seeing this crumble to make for a better story if it doesn't, but I feel like it's starting to crumble. They got the bills and the Steelers. They're going to be two and five potentially two weeks from now. Yeah. I mean, we'll see how it goes. Yeah, we got, we got to take a break. Sorry. It was worse yesterday. We had to do like four segments in 10 minutes today. We only got to do one more segment. We got to get the break so we can come back and do it. We'll do it next year on PFT Law. Devin, before we wrap this up today, and let's just have a conversation about this. We talk about the Bengals starting slow. They were 0 and 2 and they're 1 and 3 since then, about the Broncos. Like we wrote them off and we do that. We like to craft our narratives. Okay. Which teams do we pay attention to? Which teams can we ignore? It makes our life easier. So we put the Broncos in the, let's just ignore them after two weeks. They've won three in a row and that defense that they have is special and the quarterback, once he works through his Ferris Bueller stuff, whatever that is, the quarterback has potential to get better and better. The Broncos all of a sudden, I mean, you look at the Chiefs, who in that division is going to rise up and make it interesting. I thought it was going to be the Chargers. Maybe it's going to be the Broncos. This is why you play the football games. Zach Allen up front with Benito and Browning and Cooper and those guys disruptive. Sir Tan is awesome, but what I loved about Sunday was Bo Nick's firing back at Sean Payton. I love to see that because his passion is football. Don't let a guy just yell at you. What a different site compared to last year with Payton and Russell Wilson. Yeah, as much as that, like in the moment is awkward and like what's going on, to see that kind of fire from a young quarterback who's still learning the ropes, it's good for the Denver Broncos. All right, great stuff, Devin. Thanks to everyone out there who gave us some of your time today. We'll do it again tomorrow with Michael Hawley. Unless I really did piss him off last week, find out tomorrow. What does access mean? Access means going from dreaming to achieving. No matter your goals, US Bank Access Commitment Programs provide the tools to help you reach your financial aspirations. Access your financial goals at usbank.com/accessile. Equal Housing Lander. Algowno ser vísus builen está resolón en lí solen English, miamiro FDIC. Hey, everybody, it's Rob Lowe here. If you haven't heard, I have a podcast that's called literally the Rob Lowe. 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