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Afternoons with Staffy - Full Show (09/10/24)

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Cooper Moore

The Midday Mixer

Reaction to the Blackcaps squad named for the Tour of India

Win a Trip to 'The Everest' - Question Three

Lost in the Wash

Back in the Day

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09 Oct 2024
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On the show:

  • Cooper Moore
  • The Midday Mixer
  • Reaction to the Blackcaps squad named for the Tour of India
  • Win a Trip to 'The Everest' - Question Three
  • Lost in the Wash
  • Back in the Day
  • & your calls and texts.

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Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings and eligibility vary by state. Good afternoon folks on your truncated afternoons with Steffi as we fill the next two hours before the final edition of running it straight our wonderful rugby lead show and in studio Sam Hewitt and Jell-O Anthony Galling will be joined in studio by Blake Asford and they will dissect the whole season and I wonder if they'll crystal ball into next year as well maybe a touch. On the tests international rugby lead that's coming up is well. Just to cover off a couple of text messages that went into smithy show just before the news someone said I think Sam and smithy are doing like a dream all time Kiwi team something like that. Someone said where's Olsen Philipina? He is in there. They did that yesterday texture finishing in 002. Philipina's in six and Stacey Jones at seven. Kevin Niro must be in the conversation. Jamie from Monica, I'm with you. Definitely in the conversation. Devastated, James Littlewhite didn't make their team. And there's a lot of text messages here and I feel like you might want to ring up about it. So I'm going to give you the opportunity on 0800 1508 11 about this. Black caps team that's been named to go to India and it's another team naming that underwhelmed me. One change and that was injury enforcement. Is it slightly bigger than the team that went to Sri Lanka? Is it slightly bigger? It's exactly the same except for Mark Chapman and for the injured Kane Williamson and Michael Brace was going for the first test coming home for the birth of his child which is fine. And then Isobi going for test two and three. Is it mean for me to say why didn't this just go for all three? Michael could stay home. Because the baby might come early. Lunch on day two. Gets the SOE school. Well, would that, it's strange that they, you know, between the Sri Lanka series, they've come back to New Zealand and they're going back again. And he didn't play a test match in Sri Lanka. They can't afford to find back. Imagine if he goes over and doesn't get named in the 11 for the first test? That's on the cards. He'll be named, I think. Why? He wasn't in Sri Lanka. Well, yeah, well, actually, yeah, at good point. Well, we'll see. So I didn't hear the interview with Sam Wells, but every time some of the interview Sam Wells, I come into the studio, take over the text machine. And Smithy didn't read these. I will. Tired of a mentioning past performances, Conway and Saudi have been poor for the last 12 months. Hi, Smithy, listening to Sam Wells defend Santa was truly depressing. I've heard this nonsense from him before. I'm exasperated with the leadership of New Zealand cricket. Sorry, Smithy, I'm finding Sam Wells answers to your questions very disappointing. But do have fun in India commentating. I don't know why you bother talking to the zealous Smithy. This is the most depressing, uninspiring chat with a selector I've heard. What an absolute wet blanket. No wonder the black caps are in the hole they are. Basically, once you're in this team, you cannot be replaced at all. Oh, wait, 100. 1-500-811, or double eight, double three if you would prefer to text in. And I think in Auckland and Wellington radio frequencies, you've got us everywhere else around the country, including Auckland Mountain, if you're on the app, you've got us too. I'd love to hear from you. Double eight, double three, the ten per beer post, text line, or 1-800-150-811. Lines are widely open. Shortly, midday mixer, we've got thought bubbles. We've got the question for our Everest competition, which correct me if I'm wrong. One lucky listener will want a trip to the Everest. Well, I wish I wouldn't go for redemption. It's sometime in the next two hours. This is what radio stations do. You have to listen for the whole two hours. You never know. But I'm not going to be that guy that does it at five to two. So don't worry about that. It'll be before that. Okay, I'll give you a clue. It's between one and two, depending on how things go. And we're going to be talking to Cooper Moore, who is a 16-year-old golfing prodigy, a fantastic amateur golfer still at school, who's just returned from the Asian Pacific Amateur Championships in Japan, finished in eighth place with the world's finest amateur sets of really, really good placing. So he's just got back to New Zealand, so we'll catch up with him just after one o'clock. Mikey from Christchurch joins us. Hello, Mikey. Good to you. Well, I just literally just fine, so I got through. Good. Um, I was talking to Smithy this morning because he was interviewing Sam Wells for the, who, who's one of the selectors for cricket. And when that said, well, Sam Wells, have I got that right? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yes. So when he first came on, when he was first selected, you know, he's all happy and he's kind of got the good attitude and stuff. And now he's under pressure because there's been a lot of talk about selections and why we're picking the same team, et cetera. It's a totally different guy. And I think rightfully so in the sense that the answers he was giving about the team going to India. And I guess a wider squad, but the ones who will probably be playing is literally the same players who have not been performing just recently. And I just find that highly disappointing. And it's almost getting to the stage, I guess, we're as a cricket fan because you know they'll do green seamless. Probably more of the new apple coming bowlers that we've got coming on that has a fan. It's just like, Oh, well, we'll just, we'll just get excited about the home to get England, et cetera. And not worry about all these stuff because we're not picking teams to play those conditions or to even hopefully win. And I just find it as a cricket fan really disappointing. And I don't know the answer to this. I'm all for changing the team out if the replacements are the same or potentially better or can grow. And I don't know what our depth is like to take on India in India. I just don't know. So we've got these winners who never get to play at home because we don't seem to have the conditions, although some people would argue that the basin does actually offer those conditions a couple of days later. And that stungs last year or was it really this year. You've got guys like according to this guy, Santa and Phillips are frontline bowlers. And I'm like, I mean, you've had so many calls. People phone do a smoothie about that. Santa, great in the white ball game. But, you know, just cricket. Come on. It's obvious to everybody. He's not offering much. And Phillips, very, very, very, very handy. But he's not the frontline spinner. He's only kind of really startled if you think about his career. You've got two amazing spinners who play for New Zealand, but hardly ever get a chance. Now, if we were Australia, actually, in England, they laugh at us because they have a spinner who plays every single test. But why are these things obvious to all of us? But neither the guys who are in the thick of it. Yeah, I don't know. And I remember I talked to, gosh, who did I talk to? Was it Brian Stronic or someone? And there's a spin school or something. And they've set up dusty wickets and they've replicated those subcontinent wickets and they have all their spinners there. But then we go there and they don't play them. I don't know. I can't spin a ball. So, you know, I don't want to throw rocks into a puddle. But I don't know why we can't be better. Do you remember when Muri Lefilin used to come over? Yeah. Obviously, definitely one of the best of the world to see. But are you in all right New Zealand conditions, didn't you? Yeah. Absolutely. He did. So, I kind of think it's a bit of a falsehood that someone's pushing that we can't play spinners in New Zealand conditions. Oh, Dan Vittori played every time in New Zealand. And he couldn't turn it. So, I know these turning spinners, these flight spinners, these length spinners, and Dan Vittori had all the action, had all the wind up and ripped his fingers, but it never turned. And he'll tell you it never turned. Was he a dibbly dolly disguised as a spinner? I don't know. I wonder for the future, you know, kids growing up in this country watching out there. We're missing out on someone like a Shane Warren type character, because everyone wanted to spin the ball when Shane Warren was going good, right? Yeah. But now, if you're a young Kiwi wanting to play cricket, well, who are your heroes? And you possibly could have had some, but you never get to see them. So, I'll still hopefully go along to the English test when they're here, because I'm calling that quite exciting. It'd be the first actual test match I've ever been to, believe it or not. Wow. Yeah, I've been to kind of one day, which is what I love that format too, but never actually been to a test match. Oh, you will enjoy it, particularly with the Barmi Army. They make a test match special. Yeah. Anyway, there you go, just a little thought, and I'll leave you to the show. Good work, fella. There he is. Mikey out of Crosshitch. We stay in the South Island. We got a Palmerston. We talked to Cliff, and it's a day before Gulf Day, isn't it, Cliff? And then, hopefully, tomorrow is, yeah, we can get the course open again and get a bit of capping. It's going to be a bit, a bit raggedy out there, but they're bad to do their best, you know, how it is. Yeah. I'm just thinking about the old, yeah, the English coming. I love the boy starts playing the trumpet and gets everyone going. Yes. The old Bligeon. That's a great thing. I was there in Wellington at the basin against England, and that was great. I'll be at Christchurch for the test match there. It might be able to get myself in the box and say, "Get out of the boys." That would be nice to have us look. But, hey, look, we've picked this team again. You know, I'm struggling while a brace wall was even going. Look, he didn't get to play in the two test matches at Sri Lanka, and now he's only going to go away for one test. And I just don't see them even playing them. If they don't play them, questions have to be asked as to why he even went. Because they'll know now who their 11 is. I just don't think he's even in the 11. I still see them wanting to play Santa. I think they named the batting line up first, and then they play 19 and 11. It's all about trying to have that number eight, and I don't see them playing brace wall in the one-off game. It's almost like saying to Santa, "You're not good enough as a bowler." But we'll keep it on the side because you can bat a few, and you're tidy. You don't go for too much, and you can bowl 15 or 20 overs every time you play. So I don't really see them using brace wall at all. And then Saudi doesn't play in the first game, and he has to play the second. And I don't even think he'll play that. I can see Saudi going over there as a pastor, and then they'll say, "Oh, well, it's been a good experience for him having him back around the team." But they keep talking about Saudi. He's been in the black caps off and on for about 10 years or more. But he tends to be either a white ball 20 specialist. One minute he's back in the test side. But the problem is they always said that Kane Williamson struggled to bowl his spinners. He would wait until first innings when he was bowling. He would give him it over or two before lunch. If he didn't really do anything majorly, he wouldn't get a bowl again to mither the afternoon. And really, at the end of the day, like Australian youth there, boy, you get him in and you keep bowling him. You put some pressure around the bat and take his chance. But I just don't believe that. They've always had Colin the Grand home and wags to bowl the heavy overs through the middle. Saudi and Bolt would get a new ball and have a wee spell after lunch. And it's so predictable New Zealand cricket. They never go away from the plan. The plan is always the same. We'll try and win the toss and bowl first. We don't like batting and especially New Zealand. We always want to have a wee bit of green top and have a bowl. Saudi and Bolt, every chance of knocking them over. So the spinner doesn't get to really bowl in the first innings. And then he struggles to even get a look in the second innings. And then they decide, oh, we won't play him. If he ever got packed, he tends to be the drinks. So everything about Stephen and Kane and then fellas have been so predictable. That's why we've never had a spinner in the side. They just don't want to use him. They don't want to risk him. And if he's not good enough to bat at number eight, he's not in the side at all. And that's where I see New Zealand cricket at the moment. They're not willing to play each as per towel. He's probably a decent enough batter. He went out as a night watchman, faced 48 balls as a night watchman and looks pretty solid. But he ends up batting behind Saudi at number 10. And they treat him as a number 10. So now he's not good enough to bat it. He could have been a number eight if he was played a bit more. And then we would have said, well, we've got our left arm orthodox. He can bat at number eight. He's decent enough there and we'll play him all the time. But they'll never do that. If he ain't good enough to bat, he ain't good enough to be in the side, especially in New Zealand. I often wondered when Kane Williamson was kept in Cliff about, very seldom did he give the ball to the spinners. At least it was just to change ends for the quicks or, as you say, a couple of overs before lunch, a couple of overs before tea or stumps. And there was a real reluctance for him to use our spinners, which could have been he didn't rate them. And I think why even play a spinner then if you're never going to use them? And I never fully understand his psyche around choosing spinners and then not using them. Well, I think that would select this would get together and say we've got 15 players that picked Saudi or they'd picked Walker or some guy. The off spinner from Chicago got a few wickets a few years ago, Will Somerville. But these guys, they go in the wilderness straight away because they never picked again for another two or three series. Because they go back to Wags and Colin, the Grand Home Bowl and all those overs and it works. You know, while we had three seamers in Colin, we had a good side because Colin would do that his work, do that work. He batted at seven. We had a very strong line up. One thing about Harrison, he was a screwed man. He found the best team he could get. He played them and he got a lot out of them. But Steds taken over and he struggled to do that. He hasn't got, he's let back the go. He lost Watling, Taylor and Bolt have all gone and he hasn't been able to really find this team again. It's not quite the same at all. Now a bit older, but there's a lot of guys that come in that need to really stand up again and that's Mitchell. He can't play these reverse sweeps. If he can't play the V, he's got to work the ball around. This idea of trying to play reverse sweeps and test matches early in your innings just doesn't work for me. You've got to give the ball a his time. Yeah, I agree. Are you still looking forward to the Indian test series, Cliff? Oh, I'm always looking forward to cricket. Especially white ball, Red ball cricket, test matches in the other stuff. So we're right, but I want to see boom around these guys and they'll test us out. He'll be dangerous with a new ball. He's going to either drop it short or forwards a bit like the Shark Bactors. It was a mac from days, you go over there and you either get sent into crushes or you'll get short stuff that you've got to deal with. And then the spinners will come on and work you over with posts in and out fields. It's interesting. It's great. It's real cricketers. Yeah, it's intriguing. You can sit there and watch it and two hours goes by just like that. Yeah, definitely. And the girls cricket, like I said, the smitty this morning, the vine needs to open the batting. They can't chase 144 with the side and leave all the work to do when the second ten opens. It just doesn't work for them. They just haven't got enough hitting ability to come out there and clear the fence enough. It only seems to work about every ten or twelve games until they find a few more players that can get it off the square. It isn't easy. The slow bowler, if he bows on your stumps, it's not easy to get away. If he's bowling a good tight line of length because you've got to make this pace off the ball when it's not easy. It's just for girls who try and clear their inner ring. Yeah, it's tough for them. It is tough. Awesome, Cliffy. You have a great day today. Enjoy your golf tomorrow, mate. I hope so. See you, buddy. Bye now. Tony sees his that last quarter, which wasn't Cliff. It was Mikey. He's suggesting our spinners throw the ball. That's why Murily got wicked savory way to be fair. Ask Ken Rutherford about him. Oh, Captain Kenny. I worked with Ken Rutherford for a few years. Oh, she's a character. Stephanie, I'm not surprised at all by the black cap squad. They simply won't make changes because of the players' contracts. If they add new players, it costs New Zealand cricket more money from Dave and Queenstown. I think the finances of New Zealand cricket is actually fine. I think they're fine. They get a lot of money, not as much as the big three. But I think financially they'll fight. That wouldn't prevent them from adding Joe Bloggs from Central Districts, who's going great guns. They wouldn't say, "Oh, we can't put them in because we can't." I don't think that's an issue for New Zealand cricket. I think they're quite well funded, just quietly. So not a consideration for me, Dave and Queenstown, but maybe. Right, we shall take a break on the other side of this. We'll have a 12-28 mixer. The midday mixer. One. First midday mixer, Steph, let's get into it. Actually, let's kick it off. Let's continue on the black caps theme just quickly. Your mic's not off. It's all right. Yeah, let's continue on the black caps theme. I don't know what are we expecting from the tour of India? Are you expecting any type of result or turn and form from the black caps? Three test matches, 15 sessions, 45 sessions. I think we will absolutely dominate three of them. OK. What am I expecting and what am I hoping are two very different things? I'm expecting, not wanting or hoping, I'm expecting us to lose all three. Weather, I don't know whether there's stormy season or anything like that. Probably not. And especially no Kane Williamson, who's one of our better players of spin. And a lot of our better players are not in form. And you don't get into form by playing India and India. And if you do, well done to you. Really? I can't even see us getting close, Jacob, and I hate saying it. Because I'm a huge patriarchal New Zealander. Yeah, I kind of feel the same way. Yeah, I feel the same way. I mean, I just hope someone like AJAS really puts their hand up. And when he did, he put his hand up when they toured India a couple of years ago. You know, taking ten wickets and an innings. And he was the talk of the town for a couple of months heading into the summer of cricket. So yeah, I just hope someone like him really puts his hand up. And is someone that they can't drop for the home summer, personally. But switching tax quickly, Steph, to the Warriors. So, me, I've been paying attention to the Kiwi squad being announced. And looking at James Fisher Harris and the Kiwi's jersey and picturing him next year in the Warriors' jersey. And I put this question to you, Steph. Will he be one of the greatest ever Warriors signings? Well, he's not yet because he hasn't played a minute. But he could potentially have that, he could have that moniker in a couple of years. I mean, the dream result would be James Fisher Harris comes to our preseason after the internationals. He's made captain, and he captains us to a premiership. And this time next year I'm saying absolutely he is. Absolutely he is. But he's got a bit of work to do to get over the likes of, like, Kevin Campion. Talking about, I'm not talking about premiership and all that, so I think because we've never won one. But just that grizzled veteran hardman showed the Warriors what we were lacking. So his influence on the club from when he was here and long after he finished, he left a big shadow. He left a big footprint. James Maloney, at this stage, he'd be my number one of best imports, if you like. Because he mixed up fun, authenticity, skill, competitiveness. He was the whole package in a little fella, incredibly popular in the team. Made New Zealanders home, he's still to this stage, he loves his time here and didn't want to go. I think for me, and it doesn't have to be for analysis, for me, I loved what James Maloney brought to the Warriors. I think him and Campion so far, but fish, take us to that promising land, brother. We'll give you the Steffi boot. The jandal. Yeah, I totally agree. He's got the potential to change the culture of the Warriors. Not that it was going downhill or anything like that, but just to give them a bit more of a boost. I mean, someone like Leo Thompson noted his entire form from the last, you know, L season to basically spending a couple of weeks in Kiwis camp alongside, rooming alongside James Fisher Harris. It just gives me a lot of hope. It's when you hear from the other players. So you can go to James Fisher Harris and say, what are you looking forward to back in my country and all that. But when you hear other players and coaches talk about James Fisher Harris, they're actually the words I listen to. Because they're learned and observed, not lived within James Fisher Harris. I like recommendations and products and endorsements from those that go out on the field with him. Yeah, it's his attitude. It's not necessarily his playing ability. He might not be the greatest prop going around in the URL at the moment. But in terms of his mindset, probably up there with the best. Two. Two on the midday mixer. What is more important to you as a rugby fan, Steff? All Blacks 15 games or the MPC finals? MPC finals. Why is that? I didn't have to think long, did I? Nope. As the weeks have gone on, I've become more and more invested in it. It's a novel and the All Blacks 15 is a magazine. And I like books and it's been really well written this year. The fact Auckland aren't there, and I'm not celebrating that Auckland aren't there, but the fact that these other teams and counties have scrapped their way and Taranaki won the Shield. They're trying to go back to back MPCs and hold the Shield. What a story. Other teams have just fought their way. I've loved the stories around the MPC. And it's like you watch a TV series and the last two episodes are about to come up. But there's a blockbuster movie coming out at the same time. I'm watching the TV series I've been invested in. The Brock must the movie can wait. Yeah. There was a great article that Gregor Paul wrote, Steph. I'm not sure if you read it this morning about New Zealand rugby commercial team and how they're going to use the Munster and Georgia games as sort of like a proving ground for NZR+ going forward and marketing them out to 150 countries. And I don't mind them doing that. I mean, they've got to explore other revenue owners. And I think that's a good idea. I applaud them for that. It's going to be free to air for 150 countries. And just to tap in and they'll get data and say, yep, there was, I don't know. 150,000 people in Belarus watched it. That's not a market we even thought about, you know? Yeah. They'll find something somewhere. Yeah. I get it from that point of view, but I just feel like it might be cannibalising their own competition. You know, by taking players out that could potentially be playing in the final. Oh, the All Blacks. Yeah. The 15, I'm talking about specifically. I get the All Blacks, you know? I think the 15 are available. Okay. All Blacks, 15 are available. They're going to fly out the day after the NPC final. Oh, right. Okay. It was my understanding. Three. It's good to clarify that. And then staff final, Midday mixer. What are the positives of the breakers trip over to the US? Well, I will struggle to find any. Apart from the cool factor and our boys in America playing in the home of professional basketball and they're marking up against some big names, is it a positive that some of our young guys might be seen by an NBA team and they'll say, "We'll give you a contract. Come to us and play G League." A positive for the player. Is that a positive for the breakers? Potentially not. They might be able to mix with some, what do they call them, future stars? Yeah. Yeah. They might have some future stars coming in scrimmage with them and they say, "I like these guys and talk about alling. We might be able to bring some of them down." But as far as the NBA season goes, I cannot see an upside. I cannot see an upside. We started 2 and 0, which was fantastic. We're going to come back and we're going to be about 8th on the ladder. Even though we're unbeaten and then we're going to have to have storm weeks. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And I was thinking too, I watched that documentary. Someone phoned up yesterday, Dean, and he watched the documentary about NRL in Vegas. I watched it as well. Not last night, the night before. It was brilliant, but three of the four teams didn't make the eight. Now that might be a coincidence, but it's so disruptive. Yeah, the NRL did the best they could to bring them back into normal competition. Like they played each other and the Vegas round and then they played each other than round up. They did do every couple of weeks after. Yeah. Interesting thing about the NRL too is I believe Penrith have turned down the World Club Challenge next year. Are you allowed to? Well, I presume so, because I'm pretty sure there's a Penrith reporter that does their day-to-day, and he was reporting last night that they've turned it down. That's kind of interesting. That's happened before, actually. And I think the team that lost the grand final, they went and played it. I think that's happened before. So would Melbourne go? I presume so. And also, Penrith selected for the Vegas trip too, disrupts their start of their season next year as well. Mmm. Yeah. No, it's a weird concept, right? Like, the only, so I wrote down a couple of positives and negatives. Like, yeah, like you said, exposure for the next stars, and also recruiting those next stars. That Kareem Lopez had a great game. Not the game. I think it was the gaming exp portal, and not the Utah Jazz. It was Utah Jazz. They got smoked by OKC, I think. But yeah. That's probably the only positive, is recruiting younger players to the franchise and having the exposure of going. Is it a bit of a... ...Mett Walsh, American? Could be. Bring my team, play you guys, walk around the NBA stadium. I've met Matt Walsh. He's a really, really nice guy. And he does things for the right reasons, in my dealings with him. Pretty radio. I don't know. I'd like to talk to some of them when they get back, actually. In fact, we will. We'll get one of the CEO or something. Once they're back from the States and just ask why, and did it tick your boxes. Yeah, let's do that. And will they look to do it in the future too? It's an important question for breakers fans, especially online. I've been reading a lot of comments and questions why they're over there. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. Anyway, that's your mid-day mixer. That's my mid-day mixer. We've got time to chuck a call in. Of course we have. It's Joey. G'day, Joey. G'day, staff. Your producer's right on to it, isn't he? I'm just like the master. He's getting the spot for you. Hey, he's a good lead there for you. Yeah, just on the MPC, a couple of things back, but just on the MPC. The final of the All Blacks, they were going to be going away, both those sides of the day of the final, which is ridiculous. And that's when, you know, you've got the CEO, you know, Mark Robinson. He should change that. He should be able to change that. I hope they have. I believe they've changed the New Zealand 15 side of going the day after the final. I read that somewhere yesterday. But not the All Blacks. Not the All Blacks. So we have a fantastic quarter-final, semi-final with All Blacks playing in it. And then we go to the final and they're not playing because they're going the day earlier, or they're going on the day of it. That's the difference between a good CEO or a good guy like Valentis, and a guy that the New Zealand rugby got. Valentis will change that. I'm telling you now. I'm having people telling me it's the New Zealand rugby giving the middle finger to the MPC fans. The fans are the biggest product. They're the biggest product. They're the biggest product. It's unbelievable that this is what I mean. You've got decades, you've got roosters, and you know what they are. What's another name for roosters, I won't say it on the radio. But that's what you've got running the system. And that's how things will go. Us fans, as fans, you've got a great product that's going really well, the MPC. And then you come to the final, and there might only be three All Blacks playing in their final. But that's three All Blacks that kids that are between four and 16, 17 can go watch and see and get an autograph and all that sort of stuff. Unbelievable, they're just absolute sick guys, dinosaurs. And that's why you want to get home over here to run New Zealand rugby. I'm telling you. But the other thing too staff always wanted to talk to you about crippling was I would not have Fisher Harris as a captain. The captain is the captain they've got at the moment because I think he is the man to follow at the moment. Fisher Harris will come into the side in a couple of years maybe. He could be captain. But the captain they've got at the moment that's got to be captain. He is one of the best. I'm not saying Fisher Harris is not, but it would be, it would rustle some feathers. If in the, in the, um, worries, I think organization, if you turn around and just see if he's got to be our captain. Because the captain, Barney, you've got at the moment. It's just like, um, Kevin Campion and Steve Price and that. So I would not change that at all. No way in the world would I, would I make Fisher Harris a captain this first year. It could be Vice captain if you wanted to. Yeah. But, um, yeah, exactly mate. You know, that's the, uh, the only other thing mate. Oh, the other thing was too, it was just on the cricket. Um, the, the spin, spin bowling coach. What's his name? Paul Wise. Oh no, he's with the white friends. Um, so I'm in the, honestly, I've never heard of him. Not, not the happy move to him. But I haven't heard of him. I mean, I'm going to put my name up for, um, for the features coach of the, um, of the care boat. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, in your laugh, because no one, who the hell knows Joey? Oh no. Who knows Joey? What, so you're saying to me, we're going to India where there's a guy, Patel, who's taking pin wickets and we need it, we need a spin coach to coach him. You're killing me. He's taking pin wickets over there. You don't need to coach him. Ridiculous. It's not going to be a risk to go. Someone's going to be. Hey, have a good one mate. It's always a pleasure. You know that. It's a lovely shot. And the list is fantastic too. Good on you mate. Everyone rings up. Cheers mate. Have a good one mate. Good on you. This is Joey. Uh, Steph, it's just a coup to me. This is from Rose. G'day Rose. It's just a coup to me. Oh, am I just missing his call? Hope he's okay. Zade's training the house down at the gym. Uh, I've seen him on Instagram. He's training the house down at the gym. Um, that's a bit of jujitsu to Zade as well. Did you know that? Uh, come on Cliff. This is a big long text. I have to move it to the big long text box. Come on Cliff Hessen was just a much problem with spinners instead. The way we have treated our spinners over the last 10 years is a disgrace. All coaches select this captain's are equally to blame. Also, if we produce wickets the turn a bit in New Zealand then spinners will play. And our bats will get used to facing them. That's the big point for me. Question. If our pitchers don't spin then why do our domestic sides all play spinners? And they are successful and always have been. Look at the leading wicket takers in domestic cricket. A lot of spinners at the top of the stats. Brendan, great text. Can I forward it to Scott Wannick please? Take a break back with Paul. We've got four minutes before a four-star break. Two callers, two minutes each. We kick off with Paul. G'day, Paul? Jay, the last call or something to ring up. You mentioned Mitch Barnet. James Fish Harris, I'm excited about Fisher Health coming next to your mate. It's just what we can bring. We know what that is. I've been loved. Mitch Barnet's response to John's little close. Oh, so do I. Yeah, don't call me brother. I've got your bro. I'm not your bro. That was awesome. Yeah, I was listening to the audience patients this morning. I love that stuff over there. They just back wall to wall league. And Andrew Webster from the Herald. Apparently Joseph Swarley's contract turns out it's back to $9 million over five years. And so it's around about $1.6 million a year to play rugby union. I think the first three years, he's got a two-year option. To stay on the same money as his last year. So it's not bad calling, mate. It's really good calling. But it's probably the same as the whole wallaby's back line put together. Yeah, so it'd be interesting to see when he does, you know, because apparently he's a bit of one race. Obviously, as it would be with some of those one of you players. Hang on a second. This guy's coming over here. He's got $1.6, you know, so yeah, that's interesting. You know, when quickly made it. I see the Western Bears has been knocked back by the landers because they refuse to play the license fee. So that votes well for whoever wants to start up. You know, for the South Island consortium putting the team in, hopefully. Yeah. He said he's still going to talk to the Western Australian government, but the Western Australian consortium, he's not impressed with. I don't think he quite likes the beers, but not the Western Australian consortium. So they've got a lifeline, but they're going to have to come up with a heap more money. Yeah, mate. Yeah. And go look here. We might always look here. Oh, so good. Looking forward to it. All right, thanks. Good on you, Paul. Let's go to Richard Naimaru. G'day, Richard. Yeah. Good things, mate. Yeah. Just the one regarding the cricket. Like I was reading during my lunch break, well, listen to you there. I see that we're not flying out to Friday. So quick, correct me if I'm wrong on that, but doesn't the test series, so that's the 11th? The test series starts on the 16th. I'm really starting to get concerned about where the people fly out with the Q&A. This is the three test series in India. We're literally flying out on the 11th and 60th. It's not really a lot of time for us to just, you know, wear the warm-up games. It just kind of reminds me of that time when we went to Australia and we had no proper warm-up. And we just got belted over the parking lot. Three zips there. Stephanie, what's going on here? Oh, I know. Where's the preparation? And India are playing on the 13th, albeit T20s. They're playing a series against Bangladesh finishing on the 13th, and then they just rip straight into us on the 16th. And we're at home and on planes. I know, boy, I'm sort of surprised they didn't stay away after Sri Lanka. Pick up a couple of games in India and then just kick on. Yeah, exactly. I just didn't understand why we came here. More the way home. You've got to deal with jet lag and then you've got to go back again. It just doesn't make sense. It's just, where's the forward thinking here? Where's the proper planning? It's just like, I don't know. Are we just setting ourselves up to fail here? I mean, by the time they get to India, they might have a few net sessions. But really, is that the way to go before facing Bimmera and in those conditions with the days or an ash? Wouldn't I? I'd like to shut my head. Stephanie, I don't get it. It's disappointing. I hear you, Richard. Thanks, each of you call mate. Do appreciate it. Plenty of text to come in. I'll get to those shortly. Some text messages, afternoon, Stephanie from Rich. I'm concerned that we're going into this test series without any warm-up or preparation. Apparently, we aren't flying out till the 11th and the first test starts. We'd say 16th. How's that preparing for a tour of India, which is pretty much what our last call has said to. I've heard the squad leave the day of the final and those playing in the final the day after. Yep. Deep South mark with the seat. That's what's happening with the all-blacks. Sorry, stupid question from Brett. They don't have beating in India. They don't. Well, they do, but they don't. Question, Steph, do they have horse racing in India? Yes, they do. There's quite a few race tracks in India. They have, I think, big races that India and Derby. One more, Steph. I didn't realise that Jacob, the writer, might have been unique and broke his neck during the test. Last week, he was having surgery today. Paul Bug, I hope he has a full recovery kit. I didn't know that either. Oh, japers. Thanks for that, Ken. More calls, small texts, all to come after two. And an up-and-coming golfer straight after the news. It's our second hour in the afternoon. Don't forget running it straight between two and three. In-studio will be Sam Hewitt, Anthony Galing and Blake H for doing a season wrap. What a show that's been this year. I absolutely love it. A couple of texts from Brett. Steph, it's no surprise the white ferns lost to the Ozzies. But where they really let themselves down was by losing by 60 runs and wrecking their net run rate. A loss by 20 runs would have been fine and put India under pressure. Just really dumb cricket. It's a really good point, Brett. I guess we were optimistic or hopeful that we could do a number on Ozzie. But if you're going to lose to them, lose close. Because you can still get through our net run rate. Great point, Brett. The ABS played Japan on the 26th. The NPC final is on the 26th. Ridiculous scheduling from that chap, Robinson. Hi guys. Have you any info on Valenti's rejecting the Perth Bears consortium, Gary? We talked a little bit about that and Jacob will bring it up again soonish as well. This year, not too far away Wednesday is today. The Everest competition question. That will be coming to you very shortly. I'll give you a heavy update and we've also got lost in the wash back in the day. A big full hour. But first of all now. Golf. You know I love my golf and we've had some amazing results in the golf world. In the past few years, haven't we? With the likes of Ryan Fox and Lydia Ko, etc. But it's the next brigade we're going to talk to now. The youth. He's a young man by the name of Cooper Moore. He's just finished eighth at one of the biggest amateur championships in the world. The Asia Pacific championships. And Cooper's just arrived back in New Zealand. Cooper, how was that tournament for you? It was really good tournament. Really good scores. Yeah, it was a great experience, kind of first time playing. Well, second time playing a world-class means amateur event. And kind of gold going into it was just to have fun and learn as much as possible. But on the side was also try performance as well as possible. But I'm really happy the way I went and it was just a great experience overall. You play a lot of tournaments. Cooper, a lot of amateur tournaments right through mainly in Australasia, Australia and New Zealand. You do really well in them. When you, you're teeing it up and you're on day one of the Asia Pacific championships with so much, it's not prize money, but the chance to play the Masters. The chance to play in the open, all that sort of thing. Do you get nervous? Well, I was expecting to be a little bit nervous on the first team, but I was quite calm. I think it was probably kind of the mindset going into it. I wasn't really expected to win. I was kind of just there, kind of it. 683 world amateur, golfer in the world. And we had number four in the field lane. So I was, it couldn't be more nervous, but I wasn't. I just said that that's quite a good thing. But yeah. It's pretty good to be the 683 ranked amateur and finish eighth when most of the best amateurs are there. Yes. Yeah, that's always a great feeling. I just kind of underdog kind of scenario idea. But yeah. I looked at the field mate. I didn't look at all of them, but I saw, I went to the bottom of the leaderboard keeper. I'm going to be honest just to see if I could have managed in there. And a guy shot 96.94 and I clicked on him. He was 66 years old and then I found a 12 year old in that field as well. It's a real mix. Yes, there is a real mix. So I'd say the top guys in the field are mainly college golfers or they're looking to turn pro. If they don't win, they'll be most of the guys that don't win a turning pro this week. And especially quite a lot of us Australasians. That's kind of the last event that you'd play as an amateur most likely before you turn pro. Okay. And are you in that category as well? I'm not turning pro any time soon, but it'd be something I've been looking into over the next three to four years. Yeah. Because I looked, I see earlier this year, you were advanced into phase three of the golf New Zealand development program. So I had to figure out what that was. And I saw that phase four is when you turn pro and the likes of Kazuma, Kabori, Sam Jones, Fiona Zoo, they've all just turned pro. So they're still supported by golf New Zealand. You're now in phase three. So what does golf New Zealand provide or put around you now that you're part of this program? So what gear kind of goal with this program is to try to build a team around all the players in it. And so when they turn pro, we'll go out on their own. They've got all that support behind them. And they provide us with like good resources and stuff and good connections to people that we need to see and get help from. So is that coaching and sports psychology and strength and conditioning and dieticians and all that sort of stuff? Yeah. So most of the players by being in that program would already have a personal coach. But they definitely look into strength and conditioning and definitely like mental side of the game a lot more when you go into that program. Where do you feel like you're only 16? So you've got a lot of improvement in you. So it's quite scary how good you could become. How do you go about developing your game in certain areas? Is that up to you to identify? I want to be a bit longer. I want to be better at my short game. I need a lot of work on my mental game because I crack myself over eight foot parts. So how do you identify where you need to develop? Well, the big thing is that. So after each round, I do my steps on an apple to up game. And it's how will you get all your numbers that you need from it. And then I take that back to my coach right in the year out at Subov Charles Gulshin out at Clearwater. And then also Jay Carter, who is National Coach of Gulshin. He gets all the access to look at that. And then we recognise what's happening there. We work on it. And then I can take it back to my team. I've got Sam Wales as much thinking to the students. And Todd Estel has my mental skills coach. So they also are quite close and they work together to find out what I could do to improve. Nice. When did you get into golf, Cooper? Probably when I was about three or four, just started off at just driving range and then started doing it. And then started heading out to Coringa when I was probably about five and had some lessons out there. Yeah. Do you still stay in touch with your first coach? No, not really. Not really. And when was, how old were you when you first broke par? I guess probably the first time I broke par on a junior course was probably around eight. But probably on a full-length course I'd probably want to say roughly around twelve maybe. Twelve to thirteen, probably first time broke par. Wow. Could you must have been playing with lots of kids your age and you're just absolutely pancing them. Yeah, there was a happening a little bit. But I guess the way the world is getting with golf, junior golf is getting better. And it's definitely pushing everyone's, I guess, beyond just being good as possible. I see earlier this year you went to the junior open at Kilmarnock, which must be pretty special to go to Scotland and play in the junior British Open. What was that experience like? Yeah, it was great. It was first time being outside the world. And I just had three golf first started over in Scotland. So I was always nice playing links golf courses. First time playing links golf and I loved it. Ever since I kind of left the country, I got over there and, yeah, played well and met some new people. But overall just, yeah, it's fun. Did you stay on and watch the Open at Treen? Yes. Yeah, so part of the time we got to watch a day at Treen, so it was pretty cool. A few weeks and got to watch Justin Thomas who's playing quite like and then a couple of others. But yeah. So how do you map out your future or do you sort of just stay in the now? Because when you're really good at something when you're young, the anticipation is to chase the biggest price straight away. Do you sound like a young man that's keeping yourself in check and just playing in the moment? How do you go about planning your future? I guess my goal is to finish high school with as many options as possible. I can either take the, like, college route over in the States or I can stay back here and just play elite amateur golf for two years and then get over Ozzie Way and try to get cuticle cut over there. Yeah, that's good. Keep things open because the college golf route in America is quite a well beaten one, isn't it? And it's pretty high level competition. Have you spoken to guys that have been in the collegiate system in America and what they say about it? Yeah, so I've heard from, like, both sides of the story, so you get guys that go there that were really good before they left in the museum. They get over there, hadn't gone quite as what they would have liked to or was not gone to plan. And you hear their side of the story and it's a bit like, well, it's good. It's a huge of, I guess, the academic side of it is really good because now they've all got, like, very successful jobs. And then you get the guys over there that just love it and they really recommend it. So, but, yeah, I guess I can sit back and watch weapons or if that's normal, can Josh buy? Yes. True. You can pick their brains, eh? Yes. So what, what does the rest of this year look like for you? Ah, I guess got a few, uh, Canterbury rep stuff starting up next weekend for the South Island Inter torrentials. When we kind of injured him, uh, the start of November. So, up into training at Auckland and then coming off the year with the New Zealand Inter torrentials here in home at Christchurch. So, looking forward to that. Awesome. Do you have people beating your door down and ringing your phone to say I want to caddy for you or do you have to carry young clubs? Now most of the torn type of, do it yourself, but as you start getting into the elite, I use male amateur stuff. It becomes fine to caddy, but I quite like doing it myself. I want to just ride about myself and don't have to ride about it in right now. So, but yeah. That's what you're used to, eh? Like your whole life you carry your own bags? Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, so the travel side of it, do you enjoy, like, you go to these places and you're playing big golf tournaments? Do you like seeing the rest of the world? Yeah. The learning opportunities you get from it is crazy because I think I've had about 65 days absent from school this year. I guess I probably learned a lot of stuff over that, with the time I've been away there, I wouldn't learn from being at school as well. So, I use, you learn a lot of life experiences and stuff to take away. If I use golf doesn't work out over the next years, what I'd like it to happen, I've got all that. I use learnings behind me and life experiences. So you, that guy on the plane doing assignments, as you're flying to and from tournaments, because I guess you sound like a conscientious failure. You don't want to lose ground on your classmates, you want to keep up? Yeah, I guess I'm pretty lucky at same beats. I get lots of help from my teachers, but I just work to be done one the way I do my best to finish it. And I get back and I talk to my teachers and we find a way if I miss out on and think that how I can quickly keep up. Awesome. So, just back to your golf game before we head off. Talking to Cooper Moore, who's just finished tight eight at the Asian Pacific Amateur Championships. Having early finished second in the junior British Open in Kilmanic, it's just head scratching this stuff. How do you keep your feet on the ground? Like, when you're the best at like, when you play and amongst your mates, you're comfortably the best golfer. How do you keep things real for Cooper Moore? Ah, I guess, when I play for my mates, we tend to play for a little bit of money on the side, but I always make competition out of it. So, I guess, if it's me giving shots or they want to have a crack, yeah, I'm open for anything. You'd be the perfect guy at a hustle, like playing with people you don't know, and just sort of naff it round for two or three holes and then just start turning it on. That'd be fun. Yeah. Yeah. And what club are you part of? Are you Clearwater? Yeah, Clearwater's home club, but also rusty and white gear. I suppose you're on the golf course all the time, eh? Yes, yeah. And it's important that you still love the game. Like I know, I've spoken to Ryan Fox a lot and he's, you know, on the big, big tours. But when he comes home to escape golf to a life, he goes and plays golf with his mates because he just loves the game. Do you genuinely just love the game of golf? Yeah, it's pretty much just the reason why I play. I love it. Like I'll probably be out of golf this afternoon. Find something to do here. School holidays. Have you earned a school holiday having had 65 days a year off already? Yeah. Yeah. It's a little bit like that. But I'll make most of it and make most of it and I'll be out of golf this afternoon. Top man. Hey, listen, really enjoyed chatting to you today. And we and all the, me and all the listeners, we will definitely follow your progress Cooper. We wish you all the very best, mate. Go well. Thank you. Cooper Moore. That's a name to follow, isn't it? He's had a truckload of high leaderboard placings and the best amateur competition, particularly in Australasia. But having gone over to Scotland and now over to Japan, he puts it with the best of them. So put that name in your hat for the future. What a little champion. I love finding these, but I didn't find them. But you have a chat to them. You just become a little bit more invested in following them. Yes, Brett. Young follow was doing so well in his interview. Then he dropped the learnings. I need a siren or something. But yeah, Brett says go well, Cooper. Chris sees the kids got his head screwed on. Another great young Kiwi about to dominate the world. Cheers from you, Chris here. I'm excited. You can hear the maturity. I couldn't have done a radio interview like that at 16. It's a hard thing to do. And he hasn't done many if any. How many of those do you know, golf like this? Good for four. That was great. That was great. Just a quick question, Steph. The non-golfing head of the two of us. Yeah. How about like him breaking par at 12 or 13? What's... Did I make one? I'm on EMA. That's it. Oh, that doesn't look like it's just storming. Um... Yeah, no. What was I asking you? Something about something. Not golfing head. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 12 or 13 breaking par at 12 or 13. Crazy good. What's up with that? It's so good. So have you ever broken par? No. And you're how old? Bit older than 3D. I've got close. Do you think it's just natural ability at that age? He started at 3. I started at 12. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. He's worked hard. He's worked hard. And you know quite quickly where the... I remember my dad took me to a pro for a lesson. And I worked with him for a little bit. And he said to Ross. He said, um... Do you think he's good enough to go pro? And he said, ah... He could be a really good club golfer. Said that was a no. And you just know I knew. I would have loved to. But you just know. I couldn't hit it far enough. I wasn't consistent enough. I couldn't pat well enough. And you only have to be about 10 to 15% better. But that last 10 to 15% is bloody hard. Yeah. That's all the upstairs business, right? Right. I have to let these tech kids enough standing at my... It was weird. That was unbelievable. Two people just stormed the office. I think it's because the live light outside the studio doesn't work anymore. Nah. It switches when I turn my mic on. It switches to my room for some reason. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's weird. Another fault. Um... Everest question. Not far away. Oh, you're not going to go what's lost in the wash, are you? Nah, nah. This is, uh... What's the loss in the wash reason? But it's the Everest competition here on ACNC. Ah, you are getting a chance to win a trip to Sydney to see. I wish I wouldn't. And I've got the cap. I've got the I wish I wouldn't cap. And, well, I wish I wouldn't seek redemption at the Everest. Which is the richest horse race. In the world. And all of this week we're talking about some of our greatest redemption stories in sport in honour of I wish I wouldn't. Which came second last year, so we'll be looking for redemption this year at the Everest. You're going to hear a question each day. And on Thursday, you can text all four answers in for your chance to win. They're not very hard. In fact, this one's not hard at all. But you need to collect all four answers across the week. Monday it was breaking with Scotty and Izzy. Yesterday it was smoothie in the mornings. So if you missed those, you can get them on the podcast pages. So here we go with the afternoons today. And tomorrow the run home will have question four. So today's question, I think it's easy. It's like a little biography actually. After rising to become one of the most prolific batsmen in his country's history, this cricketer was handed the captaincy. A role many believed would cement his status as a leader on and off the field. However, his tenure as captain was short-lived and ended abruptly, leaving him publicly removed from the role in a controversial decision. While many might have let this set back to find him, he instead focused on rediscovering his form and contributing heavily to his team's success as a senior player. Post-captaincy, he became one of the most consistent performers in the team, breaking records and playing key roles in their biggest moments. His ultimate redemption though came in 2021 when he played a crucial part in leading his team to victory in the inaugural World Test Championship. The victory and his role in the final was a fitting culmination of his resilience as he transformed a challenging chapter in his career into one of the most triumphant moments for his team and his legacy. Who's that? That is the third question. Now if you missed the first two questions, Scottie and Izzy, go and find that podcast. Morning's with Ian Smith, find that podcast. Keep track of those two and the one I've just asked you. Not too tough. And after Thursday's question with Kirsten Beef tomorrow, we'll give you the cue to text in your answers, terms and conditions apply. One lucky listener will win a trip to the Everest and you will go and watch and believe that I wish I win will get redemption. I will show what that is, a heck of a prize. The Everest, very much looking forward to it. Very, very much looking forward to it. That is our Everest comp. Speaking of which. Find some money for our staff on the TAB. I will. I will. I'm going to the futures market and I'm going to the Everest. There it is. It is the slot race and I wish I win as the favourite at $5. Second favourite is Bell and the Patina. Growing empire is at six bucks. Traffic, more than that, eight bucks. And I tell you what, in the weekend, across the weekend, I was watching a bit of racing on the Saturday. And the Australian junos are waxing lyrical about Jolly Star's chances. And that's a $9 shot. Giga Kick, who I feel like maybe not this year, that's at $13. But Jolly Star and I will show win. But see, I will show win's got redemption on its side. So $5. Not the worst. I was going to give you a life betting update on the ice hockey, and it's just gone to Edbreak. We're Sammy's Boston Bruins are playing. It's 4-1 to the Florida Panthers, Sammy. Here we are at home, watching on NHL Pass. 4-1 to Florida, Boston Bruins. $12. With one period to go. $12. Wouldn't get any of mine. The cricket test match is open yet. Pakistan, England is. Pakistan, $2.45. Draw $2.00, England, $4.80. And just another little look, see if there's any movement being happening in the MPC 5. Sammy's not really. Not really. County 350, Hawkes Bay 320, Waikato 270. Canterbury, 310. The boys wondered though. These guys that have just been named for the first time in the New Zealand 15. How hard did they play? They don't want to be injured when this big opportunity is just in front of them. Not saying they won't, but they've got just a different little garden in their brain now that's growing different thoughts, haven't they? It'd be hard to put out of your mind. I was marveled actually. Camera we got. After a turn from such a long injury, he was asked when he was playing, you know, "How was the knee?" and all that. He said, "Didn't even think about it." "How do you do that?" This knee that's had you out for nine months. How do you not even run a thick wall? I wonder if I'm okay to step there and have an incredible trust. Sam came with the busted neck. How does he go charging into rucks and maulks? A friend of mine had a similar injury. He had a neck fusion and they're going through your throat. They're going through the front of your neck all the way to the back and fused these discs. He went and played super rugby again. It was just incredible. I said, "How do you put it out of your mind?" He goes, "I don't even think about it." Why don't you think about it? I don't know. It's special, special mental powers. Yeah, well it's the same. I caught a bit of a James Ray Graham podcast and he's doing a camel Graham about a sternum injury. How Campbell, not the year, just gone the year before, was getting injections, cortisone injections into his sternum. They would go directly through his chest and then go out there and play and he'd get four a game. Two before and then two at half time. Jesus. Have we got, have we got, show me the money this week? Actually, I think we do. Great point. Oh, just for the young one. You're a producing genius. What have you found? You know, we're just talking golf. You've got me on my golf buzz. I'm going to get accused of patriotism here. But Ryan Fox in the Black Desert Classic, he is paying $4.30 for a top 10. Having just come top 12 on the back of having a cortisone injection in his hip. And a little, I sent him a text congratulating him. I just got in, he said, had some good moments or had really good signs for the next few weeks. And I'm looking at the field here. I mean, the favourite is Keith Mitchell. Who's that? Exactly, Jacob. Second favourite is Seamus Power. Who's that? And then Bo Hosler, who was in the playoffs last night. Chris Kirk, Kurtz, Kitiyama, Patrick Fishburne, Florence's son. Chan Kim, Lucas Glover, he's a 100 years old. Michael Thulebornson and Ryan Fox at 29th. Four dollars to three top 10. That is going to be my show me the money tomorrow, if we're doing it again. I'll do some investigating. Do some investigating. But I don't see why we wouldn't. And before we leave the TAB staff, I just wanted to bring up the future zods for the NRL premiership for next year. Yes, because I was talking about it this morning. You know, because I was astounded that the market was even up, first thing. Oh, no, it would have been up the next that night. Literally. You captured the market. Really? Absolutely. Who would bet on that? Who? You would be very surprised. Really? There's a lot of action on that. Straight away. Okay. People seem like sifting. So, the point of discussion, when I was talking to Sam this morning, I said, if you looked at the NRL market and he said, no, and I thought, great. Great. And I said, who's your top pick? And he said, well, I've got two. And so, TAB have got Penrith as second favourites at 450. And Sam might have said, I don't see them making the eight or struggling to make the eight. And he said, that's crazy, they're second favourites. So, just a storm of favourites, 375. I haven't got a lot of problem with that. Panthers at 450, I couldn't touch that. But the third favourites are $9 shots. And that's Crannuller and Brisbane. Crannuller and Brisbane. Only getting better next year. Well, a Brisbane I got mad. And then Adam Fennell Blake for Crannuller. Adam Fennell Blake for Crannuller. Is it? They're just perennial. What did they say? Always a price made over the bride, but they were a bride once. Manly a next thing, Canterbury Bulldogs roosters down at 17 Souths at 17. Cowboys, 19s, couldn't touch them. I think the Dolphins are really going to struggle next year, particularly without Wayne Bennett. And they've had a few players leave as well. At 34, Parramatta 34, Gold Coast 34. The Warriors up there was $41. Did they not know James Fisher Harris is coming? Man, there's a lot of pressure on him to perform. And all the guys we were without like Lukey Metcalfe. He'll be back to Mighty Martin Fitt. We have the halves peering everyone wants. Which is? Luke Metcalfe in to Mighty Martin. You want them two together? Okay. No, yeah, I'm just asking. Because I think Luke Metcalfe's the future seven. I do too. But I'm not sure what Tamari fits in the six row alongside him perhaps. Who does? Oh, Chanel. Yeah, the only other option is Chanel I guess. But, yeah. And favorite, favorite to come last? It's a favorite for the water and spoon. I was quite surprised. It was Camber Raiders. Yeah. Wow. And second favorite for the water spoon is St. George Elawara Dragon. Is there anyone that supports them, Jacob? Oh, that bloke, Ken. Ken, he's a hardy supporter, Ken. Oh, yeah. This year it was the dragon's year that definitely make the eight. I haven't had the dragon's text for next year yet, but it'll come. Well, I'm surprised they're so low, to be honest. They're adding Damien Cook and Valentine Holmes. Are they a top eight bit? Perhaps. When the top eight is out. Perhaps. A smoky. Because the only player they're losing is Zach Lomax. And then potentially being hunt who knows, you know, what he'll dish up next year. And, you know, the room is circling. But, yeah. He's a dragon's player at the moment. So you'd think another year was Shane Flanagan. They'd be good. They'd be a good flannel. It's a good coach. It's a good coach. Right out. Still 4-1 in the ice hockey. Florida are up against the Boston Sam Hewitt Bruins. 4-1. Go, Beast. We'll be back. We're lost in the wash next. What's been lost in the wash today? Let's find out. Oh, let's absolutely find out. First, story off the rank, the cab of the rank. Whiteferns, Steph. Unfortunately, they slumped to defeat against the Old Folk Australia. Losing by 60 runs and significantly tainting their semi-final hopes. Their next play Sri Lanka on Saturday night. But they need to reverse this run rate trend. They need to be dominant. Yeah. Well, I mean, they've got the players, I suppose, to dominate a bowling attack. You know, three star-studded batters. But, yeah. They need to all perform. Yeah. So looking forward to Saturday night against Sri Lanka and then Steph. Francis Tefo. I'm sure you've heard the name before. Yes, I hear. Apologises after swearing tirade at Shanghai Masters umpire. Basically, he was docked his first serve for a time violation at 5-5 in the decisive tie-breaker. And it's quite comical audio. I'll play it for you right now. Time violation, loss of serve, Mr Tefo. I toss the ball. No, I toss the ball. I don't mind that I toss the ball. I'll be fine. F*** you, man. F*** you. Seriously, man. F*** you. You f***ing f***ing man. Oh. F*** you. Yeah. It was a tirade of swearing. Swear about ten times at the umpire after the match. And clearly it was important to him. He's apologized subsequently on social media, saying he got caught up in the heat of the moment and apologises. It's not the way he wants to act in the future. On ATP rule states that he could be fined up to $60,000 for swearing at an umpire. I tell you what, that was pretty bad. He got his money's worth. Yeah. I toss the ball up. I toss the ball up. I toss what? You, mate. Yeah. He didn't say much. He didn't have much. It wasn't much word salad there. It was like I toss the ball up and if you, mate. It's pretty much all he said. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. No meaning to there. Yeah. No. I mean, sometimes, you know, swearing can be fun. But swearing like that, there's no, you know, it's just strange. Like, just throw your racket, mate. Maybe next time. I'm sure that's a less of a fine, but, yeah, swearing at the, swearing at official. No, it's a no-go. And Chauhan O'Tani staff has 50/50 ball. The latest bid on it is $1.5 million US for our baseball. Obviously, you're an remarkable feature. O'Tani has claimed over the past MLB season. There's basically a fit also of who owns the ball staff. Two people are saying claiming that they own the ball, but the auction is going ahead. And I think the money will be sorted out after, you know, maybe a 50/50 split between them, ironically, for the 50/50 ball. Yeah, you've got a nice good set. Yeah. And going back in history now, Steph, the record price for a baseball and came when Mark Maguire, that's how you say his name, right? Yes. Hitler. His 70th homer, the auction happened in 1998 and then ball sold for 3 million US. Which is probably something like 6 or 7 million US today's money. Yeah, precisely. I wonder who owns that ball. It's probably someone famous, someone rich and famous. Probably. It'll just be sitting in a little glass case on someone's mental fireplace or something. Yeah. Actually, do rich people even have five places these days? I don't think they do. What's rich? Like, if you're rich, do you have a five place? I love a five place. Yeah, so do I. But I don't think many rich people have five places. Well, I'm not rich and I don't have one. So it must be the rich people who have them. No, they've probably got gas ones, you know. Fake ones. I don't like fake ones. Give me a real fire. But you can link them. Yeah. And then the Western beer, Steph, touched on it earlier and there's a few questions arising from it. The bid for the 17th NRL teams being rejected by the Australian Rugby League. Yeah, it feels like a fit between Peter Villandes. What I can ascertain from the news stories that I've read. Yeah, you're right. Like, they couldn't pay. There's a license fee that the dolphins didn't have to pay because they were going to be a profitable franchise. They could prove that we're going to be a profitable friend. But because West Australia is not, you know, proven ground for rugby league, historically, they've got to pay 15 to 20 million just to base. It's like insurance for the NRL, I presume. See, if I was a West Australia rugby league fan, I probably wouldn't be liking Peter Villandes. But I quite like the way he swag it into this. He's just saying, listen, he's like, he's a my way of the highway. It's well short. They need to lift it right up. And I'll talk to the government, which means he's not going to talk to them. Yeah, bypassing them. Yeah, and he wants the beers involved. So there's the North Sydney beers and the West Australian rugby league and the West Australian government. So he's happy with the beers. He'll go back and talk to the government and he's just dissing the West Australian rugby league. That consorted him. He said, they're just so far out of the markets ridiculous. I'll go and talk to the government instead, is what he's saying. He doesn't mind shaking trees. No, absolutely. And obviously, close relations with Anthony Albanese, the Prime Minister of Australia, trying to get this PNG bit across the line too. And eight hour flight away, by the way, and that's Australia, like, you know, Eastern Australia. So, well, add another three hours onto that for the warriors. I really don't like it. I really, really don't like it. I remember the first time I flew to, I don't know where I was going, Malaysia or something. You know, I flew to Melbourne first and then up to, I can't remember where it was, but you flew the whole length or the whole width or height of Australia. I couldn't believe how long we were overland for. It's bloody enormous that country, eh? Well, yeah, even per far away. Yeah, I don't know. I suppose that's the only place they haven't sort of conquered, really. Like, they've got a team in Melbourne, you know, I don't know about Adelaide's, the prospect of getting the team back in Adelaide. But, yeah. Tim Seas, of course, rich people have fireplaces. We burn cash to keep warm. [laughter] That's awesome. Yeah, that's great. And also, swimming cash too in your jet fuel bath tubs, yeah. And then, staff looking across to the US now, news in the US came out this morning that the New York Jets head coach, Robert Salah, has been axed as New York Jets coach. He's got one of the lowest winning percentages for coaches that have coached over 50 games. That's not a record you want. Absolutely not. He's traditionally a defensive coordinator and got the head coach in job at the Jets a few years ago and, yeah, up there with the absolute worst coaches of all time. But, yeah, I don't know the full background, but Aaron Rodgers, who's the Jets quarterback nowadays, is sort of labelled as a coach killer. So, perhaps something has gone on behind the scenes. And I think Aaron Rodgers didn't play any preseason games as well. So, it didn't, like, you know, acclimatise himself with the offense that they were running. He's the one that went to the jungle way and had a loose agenda. I wasca, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went into an eye wasca rabbit hole reading about that stuff. My God, it is interesting. I'm not brave enough to try that stuff. No, no, yeah. A lot of New Zealanders go, a lot of New Zealanders go. Did you know that? I may know someone that has tried it. But anyway, in a jungle, not in a jungle, in a buccanet. Yeah, pretty much. It's a strange conversation. I had that though. I'll tell you what, that is scary stuff. But yeah, no, it is kind of weird that it's on these shores. But anyway, moving on to the next story, Steph. Pakistan set England a huge total in the first innings. 556 to be exact. England 96 for one after day two. Draw, yep, seems like a draw there. England trailing by 460. And obviously, we've got an eye on this with England coming over in a couple months. Time. Interesting. And then, Steph, sticking on England news. English news, Cole Palmer. England's sort of new main man. Has been named England's player, men's player of the year. He looks like he could, without any change in his look. He looks like he could go straight into peaky blinders. Ah, I know what you're getting at. I know what you're getting at. He looks like someone that just doesn't have much going on upstairs, to be honest. Oh, Jacob. He doesn't. I think he could act in peaky blinders. I don't think so. Tommy Shelby's cut above. Yeah, I know. He's a cut above. But yeah, that's lost and washed. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. The guy that texted him about, do they have all sorts of racing in India? He says thanks for that. And I said they do. So with no beating, how does the Indian races fund themselves? I know it's a bit off topic, just curious. Brett, I enjoy curiosity. They set up, they do have on course bookmakers, just for the races. And they have online beating, just for races. But it's so highly taxed, because the government won't want lots of money out of it. The Indian racing industry is financially pretty crippled. I think their tax take is about 40% or something. It's ridiculous, whereas most other constituencies are about 4%. Something like that. You know how a lot of Australian bookmakers always set up in Alice Springs? Because they have lower tax rates in Alice Springs. A lot of international bookmakers set up, they have their financial house in Gibraltar, which is a rock. And so all of those UK European ones, their financial transaction house was in Gibraltar, because it's a lower tax rate. It's all tax storage. It's all tax storage. It's all tax storage. Tim would know about that. The man that boons cash in his fireplace. We'll go back in the day next. Here's what happened back in the day. It is the 9th of October 1976. There was a 19-year-old Pakistan debut time by the name of Javed Me and Dad. He scored 163 in the first test against New Zealand in Lahore. Also making his test debut was 34-year-old Kiwi Spinner, Peter Patrick, who also took a hat trick, by the way. Jacob, I don't know if it was that test though. 2005, in the longest game in MLB postseason history, Chris Burke had a game-winning home run with one out at the bottom of the 18th innings to wrap it all up. We've got some birthdays today. Anika Sorenstam, born in 1970, and Caitlin Clark is going to play in Hoopro. Mark Vadooka, born in 1975. This was the number one song in 1997. You call out to our country and you whisper to those in pain. Now you belong to heaven and the stars spell out your name. Reginald Dwight, also known as Elton John. Thank you, Jacob, for your help today. A big thank you to COVID for joining us on the show today as well. Running it straight is next, semi-jello, Aish. ♪ With the sunset when the rain ♪