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Mace vs. Stephanopoulos, TikTok, and Royal Family Conspiracy Theories | 3.11.24 - The Grace Curley Show Hour 3
Rep. Nancy Mace stood up to George Stephanopoulos when he asked her what many would agree is the most degrading question possible. Grace and Emma Foley discuss the hypocrisy, double standard, and victim mentality behind the suggestion that Mace can't endorse Donald Trump for president. Then, Grace updates listeners on the strange goings on inside the Royal Family.
- Duration:
- 38m
- Broadcast on:
- 11 Mar 2024
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- mp3
Today's podcast is brought to you by Howie's new book Paperboy. To order today, go to HowieCarShow.com and click on store. Live from the Aviva Trattoria studio, it's The Grace Curly Show. We've got to bring in a new voice. A young voice. A rising voice. Grace Curly. You can read Grace's work in the Boston Herald and the spectator. Especially Grace, they stand up. Here's the millennial with the mic, Grace Curly. Welcome back everyone to The Grace Curly Show. So all the Chiron's I'm reading today, and there's a lot going on in the news. To be fair, on Mondays we've got to catch up on a lot. We've got the disqualification ruling coming down from Judge Scott McAfee at any moment. We've got Joe Biden speaking live right now in New Hampshire. He's early. He said 230, it's 206. What gives? What did I do to deserve this punishment? Codstown. Colin, let us know what ice cream shop opens at 230. Let's take a second of him. I'd just like to hear where he's at in his speech. This is Joe Biden, your president and everybody. Let's take him live. Ah, Fox is talking over him. I'll have to pick up on that. Oh, it can't be that enticing. If they've already cut away to their own programming. Joining us now in the studio, we're so grateful to have her here, is Emma Foley. Now, Emma, you're joining us to talk about something that happened over the weekend. It's getting a lot of attention and it involves representative Nancy Mase. So before we play the sound cut, set it up for us a little bit. Walk us through why this interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC has caused so much controversy. So George Stephanopoulos invited Mase to the show and asked her basically, "Why are you endorsing Donald Trump?" Because of something that happened to you, Nancy Mase, when you were 16. So he asked about her sexual assault experience and said, "If since Donald Trump was accused of the same thing, why are you endorsing him?" Now, Grace, you had me look into the archives. Yes, before we go into the archives though, let's play the sound cut. 'Cause I thought, and I'm curious, Emma, if you'd agree with me here, I thought Nancy Mase did a really good job of putting George Stephanopoulos in his place. She didn't really take the bait. She didn't let the conversation go much further. She knew a tactic he was trying to employ, and she stopped it right away. So let's have this cut here, and then Emma will give us a little trip down memory lane. This is cut one. Yes, this morning. You've endorsed Donald Trump for president. Judges and two separate juries have found him liable for rape and for defaming the victim of that rape. How do you score your endorsement of Donald Trump with the testimony we just saw? Well, I will tell you, I was raped at the age of 16, and any rape victim will tell you, I've lived for 30 years with an incredible amount of shame over being raped. I didn't come forward because of that judgment and shame that I felt. And it's a shame that you will never feel George, and I'm not going to sit here on your show and be asked a question meant to shame me about another potential rape victim. I'm not going to do that. It's actually not about shaming you. It's a question about Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim of that rape by a jury. It's been affirmed by a judge. It was not a criminal court case number one, number two. I live with shame, and you're asking me a question about my political choices, trying to shame me as a rape victim, and I find it disgusting. And quite frankly, E. Jean Carroll's comments, when she did get the judgment joking about what she was going to buy, it makes it harder for women to come forward when they make a mockery out of rape. Really, there's so much to unpack there, but my takeaway from it was he's taking -- you hear this word "weaponize" a lot. You know, the Republicans are weaponizing this, weaponizing that. This is a case of someone taking a traumatic event from Nancy Mase's life and weaponizing it against her to make her seem like a hypocrite, taking the most vulnerable, painful experience that she's had and using it as a political weapon to -- exactly what she said -- to shame her into feeling dumb or feeling like she's, you know, not staying true to herself or true to her causes. And it really was despicable, Emma. And furthermore, what he said about Trump being held, you know, a judge affirmed this. Nancy Mase was absolutely right to point out that this was a civil case, and I want to read something here from Joel Pollack on "From Breitbart." He said, "But even if Trump were liable in a civil sense, not a criminal one," as Mase noted, "the fact is that he was never found liable for rape, and it borders on defamation for Stephanopoulos to claim otherwise." But what Emma's here to talk about is all those things are very valid. All those hypocrisies involved. But the major hypocrisy here is George Stephanopoulos' past. Give us a little insight on that. Right, so he's grouping Mase and all victims into one lump, and it's entirely degrading for women. But the problem is that George Stephanopoulos himself doesn't have the best track record working with people who were also accused of sexual assault. And violence. So he was the communications director for the Clinton Gore campaign back in 1991, and his own memoir states that he was rarely more than a step away from President Clinton for the entire first term and part of the second term. He then donated an undisclosed $75,000 to the Clinton Foundation between 2012 and 2015. He later apologized for that, not because of anything that Bill Clinton has been accused of, but because he thinks that it creates kind of a double standard with journalism. But would he have a woman, a victim, on his show and ask her about the absolute worst day of her life in order to get her to denounce Biden because of Terry Reid or Clinton because of Juanita Broderick or the Bimbo eruption squad? These are all such valid points and a lot of people on the internet, and I'm not saying they're nearly as eloquent as you are, Emma. But a lot of people are pointing out these double standards when it comes to George Stephanopoulos and you're right. And I applaud Nancy Mase for just continuing to say, no, you are shaming me. And also it kind of brings me back to the fact that he's saying, I'm not shaming you. I'm not shaming you. I hate to sound, you know, I hate to sound like we're going into, you know, philosophical stuff or anything, but if she feels as though he is shaming her, if she feels as though you're using that against me to shame me, then isn't that what the left always says, like, that's her truth? Doesn't she have a right to her truth? That's exactly what they would say. They also want, they want women to play the victim all the time. They want women to also hold this victimhood for other women. So Eugene Carroll, let's say. So they want you and I to vote against Donald Trump because of Eugene Carroll, they're all lumped into the same category. So it's incredibly shameful and incredibly degrading for all women. But of course, the Democrats won't call out Stephanopoulos on that. Yeah. And there's a really good piece by Bonchi in Red State. He said, what makes this so insane, though, is that Stephanopoulos worked for Bill Clinton, as Emma just pointed out. That would be the very same Bill Clinton who settled the sexual harassment suit with Jennifer Flowers and was accused of sexual assault by several other women. It is the standard now. Is the standard now that if you settle a lawsuit, it doesn't count, but if you take it to a jury, it does because that seems like a rather ridiculous line to draw. Stephanopoulos also openly roots for Joe Biden, who has been accused of sexual assault. And then later, what he points to, which I think is the comparison you were just making, and it's really something worth discussing, he says, if someone wants to assume that Eugene Carroll is telling the truth, that's their prerogative. But Stephanopoulos' attacks against Mace using her own rape against her is disgusting. Could you imagine the outrage if a news anchor asked Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez about being raped and then tried to use that to shame her for her political opinions? We'd never hear the end of it. The media sphere would implode. There'd be congressional hearings. This is the first thing that just came to my mind, and it's not the best comparison. I remember when Megan Kelly, who's found now tremendous success since leaving NBC, but when she was on NBC, it was very popular. It was very trendy to hate her. She asked Jane Fonda about, like, plastic surgery or something. And Jane Fonda had been very open about discussing it with everybody else, but for some reason, when Megan Kelly asked her about it, she decided to go viral and, you know, shame her for asking. But that caused such outrage in the media that Megan Kelly asked Jane Fonda about her plastic surgery habits and how dare she. Now you've got George Stephanopoulos, who has backed sexual assault or what I'll say is men with bad behavior because I'm not going to get into all of the people that he's supported in his past. And you have him asking this woman something so personal to use it against her. Have you been seeing any women outraged about this Emma? Is it trending on social media? Just you and me, Grace. Just you and me. But you know what I will say, if you really have to look at it and the whole question is, are we going to denounce Donald Trump for quote unquote bad behavior? We don't even know if it's true. You have to look at the policy. And Trump is the one candidate in the race who's actually looking out for women. If you want to look out for women, you need to close the border. You need to end war in the Middle East because people don't treat women that great over there. And a lot of leftists haven't opened a book, don't know history. They don't understand that. And also shine a light on human trafficking. They're 85,000 missing children in the United States. Only one candidate in the race for president is doing that. So who's really looking out for women? It's such a good question and you're right. And it's not that difficult to answer that. And I think a lot of people are seeing that to a different extent over the weekend with the situation involving Lake and Riley. There you have a woman who was brutally murdered by someone who should have never been in this country. And you have one president, one former president who's meeting with her parents and, you know, discussing how his policies would have stopped this. And that's what he plans to do going forward. And you have another president who's apologizing for labeling the murderer as an illegal alien. I mean, the juxtaposition Emma is breathtaking. Right. And you also have Nancy Pelosi on TV talking about how, oh, well, the label for the man. No, he was a murderer and he assaulted a woman. Yeah. Right. And he bashed her skull in and, you know, where are all the women? Where are all the women standing forward for Nancy Mays who was, I don't want to say she was humiliated on TV because she held her own, but it was his attempt at humiliating her. It was George Stephanopoulos's attempt at being a big shot and making her look dumb and it backfired in a big way as most things in George Stephanopoulos's life do backfire. He's always, he's not very prepared. Not very smart. And I would say that he was the one who was humiliated in that scenario. Emma Foley. Thank you so much for joining the show. We really appreciate it. Thank you, Grace. Get people your information so they can check out your latest columns. You can follow me on X at Emma Foley media and you can read all of my columns at GraceCarlyShow.com. All right. The number is eight, four, four, five hundred, forty two, forty two. I asked Emma before the segment. I said, do you want to come on and talk about George Stephanopoulos. Talk about this cut that's gone viral, but also you could weigh in on the real family and that's saga. And you said to me, no, I don't know what's going on. I know nothing. I don't follow. I know she's allegedly missing Kate Middleton. Yeah. You know what? The listeners are going to have so much more respect for you now that you've said that you know nothing about what's going on. And that's where I come in. That's where my expertise is put to good use. We'll talk about this when we come back. We've got that. We are going to break down the TikTok situation. Play some sound from Lindsey Graham. We will continue to take your calls. 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Let's do the poll question here before we move on to other things. But I do want to talk about TikTok here for a second. Today's poll question is brought to you by Silva and Salinas. Silva and Salinas, a small law firm with a proven track record of big results. Whether it's family law, criminal defense, or some other legal concern, Mark Salinas and his team are with you from start to finish. Learn more about Silva and Salinas at sslawteam.com. That's sslawteam.com. Jared, what is the poll question and what are the results thus far? Today's poll question, which you can vote in at GraceCarlyShow.com, is should TikTok be banned in the United States? Yes, no, or not sure. Okay, so on team yes, there's Tom Cotton. There's some other really, really smart senators who I respect immensely. On team no, you have Donald Trump. That's a new one. He used to be on team yes. Now he's on team no. You have Rand Paul. And then you have team, I don't know. And that's very rare in politics. Most of the time these people, especially if a conversation's been going on for this long, they have their talking points. Doesn't mean they're always going to stay with it, but they take a strong stance. Lindsey Graham, who typically is very much planted in one camp or another on these divisive conversations, he's unsure. Can I have cut 20? The house is planning to vote as you know, this coming week on a bill that would force the Chinese company to sell TikTok or face being banned. Trump initially favored banning TikTok. Now he's opposed, he's expressing his opposition. Do you support banning TikTok? Where do you fall? I think the goal is to make sure American data that TikTok collects doesn't fall on the hands of the Communist Chinese Party. I'm really conflicted here. I know this about social media. They're ruining America. They're so, sexual predators abound on these sites. You can't sue social media companies. There's no regulatory body. That's what I'm focused on. Banning TikTok, maybe that's necessary to protect American data from China. But if you can find a way to avoid that, that'd be good too. I don't disagree with him, and I want to actually talk a little bit more about this when we come back. So I'm going to vote IDK, shoulder shrug. 13% say they are not sure, or as Lindsey would say, conflicted. 10% say no, and 77% say yes. Speaking of the Biden White House being very clear, I don't know if people saw Biden's response to Bin Laden, but he decided to bring that up. This is a guy who's been wrong on every single foreign policy decision for five decades. Bin Laden being one of the biggest ones. Obama asked everybody at the table, "Should we go in for the kill?" And Biden, I think, was the only guy whose instincts told him, "No, don't do that." Well, he brought up Bin Laden, and again, this is perfectly clear what he means to say. We'll play the cut. Coming up next. Live from the Aviva Trattria studio. We were just discussing with Emma Foley the breathtaking hypocrisy. Although it shouldn't be breathtaking at this point, George Stephanopoulos has made a career out of being a hack who only follows double standards, but he was trying to shame Nancy Mace by bringing up her past experience as a rape victim and questioning her support for Donald Trump, implying insinuating that it makes her a hypocrite. And a lot of people on social media were quick to point out, and I always say, like social media is terrible in some ways, but in other ways, people are awesome at just immediately remembering exactly what makes so many of these hacks so contemptible. And this is a perfect example. Like nobody was letting George Stephanopoulos get away with anything. There was nothing left on the table when they were done with him. And Emma was pointing out his close relationship with Bill Clinton, who doesn't have a great track record with supporting women, and to put it mildly, you should do your own research on that if you want to find out more. We don't have enough time in the rest of the show to go into it. But also Tara Reed, who's accused Joe Biden of rape and who never really gets even a phone call from the media. And Tara Reed also took to social media to X to chastise Eugene Carroll, because Eugene Carroll saw this clip of George Stephanopoulos, and she thought it was just great, you know, that he was defending her so so well. And because she hasn't done a great job of painting herself as the most reliable narrator, including when she went on air with Rachel Maddow and was like, "Giddy!" But she was going to spend her money on, "Oh, Rachel, I'll buy you a house in France. We'll go on vacation." And so she comes on and she says, "Thank you, George Stephanopoulos, for defending me. I wish Nancy Mace well and I salute all survivors for their strength, endurance, and holding on to their sanity." Tara Reed came back at her on Twitter and said, "A reminder again at Eugene Carroll that you know I was raped by Biden when I was his staffer in silence by the media, and yet you publicly support my rapist. Sit down before you lecture other rape survivors, hypocrisy surrounding you. George Stephanopoulos knows I exist as well. She goes on to discuss more of the lies that are constantly being spread. And another topic that we just left off on that we didn't get to talk about too much is TikTok. And I was explaining how there's different camps in the Republican Party, but I always find those topics to be very interesting when the people within the same tent don't agree. Because it probably means it's a very complex issue and there's good points on both sides in this case. So you've got people like Tom Cotton who are rightfully saying TikTok is incredibly dangerous, not only is it horrible for the mental health of young people, it sets up all of these ridiculous standards. It's really promoting eating disorders in women, it's promoting violence. It's at best, it's just making people dumb. And then you have the data element that a lot of this data is being sent over, you know, wrapped up in a nice bow for China to take advantage of. But then you also have people like Rand Paul who are afraid that if we start banning social media companies, it sets a bad precedent. And I play that cut of Lindsey Graham where he said if we can avoid banning it, I think we should. And I guess I feel the same way about TikTok. And I do not like TikTok. I do not have TikTok. But I feel the same way about TikTok as I do about age limits. Like I wish that we as a society, we as American citizens, could come to this conclusion on our own without it having to be a set rule. And what I mean by that is we know TikTok is rotting the brains of the youth. The really scary part of it is that the algorithms and the content that China serves up to their youth is markedly different than what they're sending the children here, the young people here. They're sending kids here, these challenges that lead to people killing themselves. And in China, it's more educational. There's stuff that's based off science, math. It's a little bit of a healthier content algorithm than the crap that they're inundating the young people here with. We know all that. Parents know that. And we also know it's dangerous to send your data to a Chinese spyware app, essentially. We have this information. So where I come from is with this knowledge comes power. Why aren't we using said power to just delete TikTok? Like why do these apps have us in a chokehold where people feel like and I almost understand it in the sense that these apps are designed to be incredibly addictive? Even on Instagram, you can scroll through the videos, Jared, and I scroll through sometimes. No, I'm watching people. Sometimes it's just stupid videos of people cleaning their kitchens like, "Oh, I'm having a Sunday reset cleaning my fridge. I'm watching somebody stack up their fridge with all these sodas and reorganize their fridge." And before I know it, it's been 10 minutes. I'm like, "What did I just waste 10 minutes of my life for?" How you should always make fun of me and say, "Oh, I'd watch these stupid reality shows." And he would say, "Oh, it's chewing gum for the eyes." And I get it. I get that it's addictive. But it seems strange to me that when I'm watching TV, I get that it's addictive. But it seems strange to me that when I'm watching TV, I get that it's addictive. But it seems strange to me that her go-to is always a government getting involved in setting up these rules and passing legislation. And yeah, it might seem like a great idea when it's an app from China. But what about in a year or two years when there's a dangerous app that's made by an American company? Like, do we want the same rules to apply? I don't have all the answers. But I do feel like it's a great idea. And I'll always say, "Can people just figure it out for me?" And I'll always say, "Can people just figure it out for me?" And I'll always say, "Can people just figure it out for me?" And I'll always say, "Can people just figure it out for me?" Figure it out for themselves? Like, you know what the age limits are? The age limits are looking at somebody who gets up at a podium and completely freezes to the point where their aid, their staffer has to come up and pull them off the stage. That should be enough of an indicator to the American public that they don't vote for that person. That should be the age limit, but it's not. The common sense factor is gone here. So instead, like, big brother or Uncle Sam has to come knock on your door and say, "You can't download this app!" As opposed to a parent being able to say to their kid, "I'm sorry, you can't download it. It's dangerous. I don't want them having your information. I don't want you watching this garbage all day." And I'm sure there are parents out there who are going, "If only we're that easy." Or you could just explain it to your kid and they would delete it. But it's scary how many people don't get the message and are just using this thing and giving all of our information to China. 844-500-4242. Now, I teased this year at the whole show and I would be remiss if we did not talk about it. There's big drama happening with a very popular family across the pond. Can I have a little bit of royal music, please? I wish a lot of luck to Harry, because he's going to need it. He famously insane European monarchies of the 19th and 20th centuries. Hello, cheeky. You are much fitted than you look in them coins. Okay, so for people who aren't following this, Princess Kate, Kate Middleton. I still call her Kate Middleton. She was having, I think they called it an abdominal surgery. She was having some sort of surgery on her stomach and she was going to be away for a few weeks and she was not going to be able to go to events, public events. And she does a lot of those events. Like, I think she does the bulk of them for the family, her and William. And then it kind of trickles down to the other and the rest, as Gilligan's Island would say. They do some as well. But first of all, what I want to say is, and I thought about this a couple weeks ago. It's crazy how when William, because at one point he said, "I can't do my duties for the day or something." And people thought maybe he was just going to take care of his wife, but he had to back out of an event. And Kate was backed out of the event and Charles is out of the events because he's dealing with cancer treatments. Or he's dealing with his own issues, health issues. And so they had like Fergie and Prince Andrew at an event. So imagine that. You go from, "Oh, we're going to have King Charles, we're going to have William and Kate." And then all of a sudden, a couple weeks go by and you get an email like, "Hey guys, best we can do for you is Fergie and Prince Andrew." When they're down, the royals, when they're out a couple guys, and it gets down to the alternates, Jared, it's drastic. It's like, you notice it. You're like, "Oh, okay." So we are not prepared for this. This is the best we got. We're going to put these guys, Prince Andrew, I think at that point, you're better off just not sending anyone, in my personal opinion. Anyway, though. So Princess Kate has been out of the public eye for a while. Then people start getting concerned. They're like, "Where is she? What's going on? Why is she gone?" There was a picture of her in a car with her mom. And then she put out a picture. And it looked like the photo was taken by William, and I guess it's Mother's Day in the UK or it was this past weekend. And it was like a happy Mother's Day picture of Kate and the three kids. And people started to notice a couple things. They noticed that she wasn't wearing a wedding ring. They noticed the trees in the background kind of looked like it was fall and not spring. They noticed all these things and they started going, "Oh, this is so weird. Why is Kate?" The conspiracy theories were just re-energized, fueled to the fire. And they're thinking, "Oh, this picture is photoshopped," or whatever. Then she comes out and she makes a comment on it. And she says, "Like many amateur photographers, I do occasionally experiment with editing. I wanted to express my apologies for any confusion the family photograph we shared yesterday caused. I hope everyone celebrating had a very happy Mother's Day. I want to go on the record and say, "Before this, I thought the conspiracy theories about Kate, why she's gone, where is she, all these things." Some people think it's marital issues, some think it's health issues. I thought it was all ridiculous. Once she commented on the photo and said she tried to edit it, I now think those people out there are on to something. Something weird is going on. There's something they're not telling us. I hope everything's okay with them because I'm a huge fan of Princess Kate. But this was so bizarre, and also now they're having all of these photography agencies or all these publications pull that photo. So they put out this photo, another saying, "You can't use it." Has no one heard of the Barbra Streisand effect? That happened. The Barbra Streisand effect, I think that was like 2003. I was like 11 years old. And I still understand the concept. Once you start telling people, pull the photo. You don't let people see the photo. People like me who had no interest in this crap are suddenly going, "Why was up with the photo?" Go ahead Jared, you have it. No, I was just going to say, as the Tik Tokers would say, "This is hella sus, this whole thing." Mad sus, I'm sorry. Well, everyone has a lot of... Everyone has a lot of... The other part of it too is that the royals tend to be above all this. Like seeing Princess Kate comment saying, "Oh, I tried my best at editing. Whoopsies, it's just weird." Like that for me was the tip-off that something weird is happening. Because she doesn't usually dive into that nonsense. No, this is a very hairy and megan-esque thing to do from the couple that was supposedly not. They were above all of the fray and they seemed to have it put together. But now they're just as nuts, it seems, as if the rest of that weird weird group over there. But I wanted to give everyone that update because if you're seeing this, it's been all over the news. I mean, it's all over the New York Post, all over Fox. It's all over. It's CNN. Like everybody's covering this. That's what's going on. That's what's going on. And one other thing, because we'll end on a more serious note. That was just a little bit of fluff for ya. Joe Biden, there was one other cut, Jared, because now his team is going out there and telling us how perfectly clear he's been on everything. So I just wanted to play another cut because soon they'll be out here telling you that this was also perfectly clear. This was Joe Biden talking about the one positive thing, or maybe not the one positive, but a big win for Barack Obama was when they killed Bin Laden. That was the history book, as John Meacham might say. We'll look back fondly on that moment for Barack Obama. The one guy who told Barack, I don't think it's a good idea. You guessed it, foreign policy expert Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. He's, he's George Costanza. If every instinct he has is wrong, then the opposite must be right. I wouldn't be surprised if Barack went to Joe and asked him just so he could turn to his advisors and say, "Joe said don't go in and kill him. Let's do this thing." We, that's the only green light we needed. He doesn't think it's a good idea. Let's go. But this is Joe Biden talking about it. Cut 12. I sat with him, and I sat with a work cabinet. I said, "Look, don't make the mistake America made. America made a mistake. We went after bin Laden till we got him, but we shouldn't have gone into Ukraine. We should have gone into the whole thing in Iraq and Afghanistan. What's the necessary? What's the necessary? It just caused more problems in the race than it's been secured." There's so much wrong with that cut. It's so clear, Jared. It is so concise and well thought out that I don't even have time to fully go into all that's wrong with it. But he thinks the biggest mistake was killing bin Laden and also because after they killed bin Laden, then we went into Ukraine. These are all new things. This is the cool part about having Joe Biden as president. Not only does he have constant conversations with people who are dead, but he also tells us about this history that none of us were aware of until this very moment, which I think is kind of beautiful. 844-542-42. When we come back talking to Howie Carr about everything that's going on today, and I really want to ask him what he's predicting with this Fannie Willis disqualification hearing. We're supposed to get word either today or tomorrow and furthermore, how he can give us a rundown on George Stephanopoulos as well. I'm sure that cut drove him crazy. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. ♪♪♪ This is The Grace Curly Show. ♪♪♪ Today's Car Crossover is brought to you by ReadyWise with inflation, food and energy costs rising. Families are feeling the financial pinch. They struggle to make ends meet. Preparation is key. Our friends at ReadyWise have emergency food kits that will provide peace of mind. Go to ReadyWise.com and use code Howie20 at checkout to save 20% on your order. We're still waiting for news about this disqualification hearing. So instead, I'm going to turn my attention, Howie, to a cut that I'm sure you're going to get to today. And I know that you have a real dislike for George Stephanopoulos. What did you make of him attacking Nancy Mace with her history as a rape victim during his show this weekend? It's amazing the fact that this is the former chief of the Bimboer options unit for William Jefferson Clinton doing this. And also just continuing to say that a jury found him liable for rape when exactly the opposite was true. And anyone can make a mistake once, but he kept repeating it over and over and over again. And I heard on a morning show today that a guy is pretty tight with Trump's people. And he said they're getting ready to file a suit. I mean, they're not going to get anywhere with it because he's the ultimate public figure. But I mean, you know, this is what you call, what is it? Malice, a forethought and reckless disregard for the truth. Yeah. I mean, how could you not say this is reckless disregard for the truth? And Howie, I only have a couple of seconds here, but you said that George Stephanopoulos was the chief of the Bimboer options unit. What goes into being the chief? What are the job? What's the job? That means you got to huddle with people like James Carvel and come up with lines like it's amazing what you get when you drag a $100 bill through a trailer park. And you come up with things like that and you make sure that, you know, you use the nuts and sluts defense when somebody steps forward. I got a whole list of all the women. You know, we all know Juanita Broderick and Paula Jones, but that's just the tip of the iceberg of people who've accused Bill Clinton of raping them. Or sexually harassing them. You know, the Ann Coulter once said, well, you know, he tried to attack Paula Jones, but she turned him down and he walked away. And she said, Ann Coulter said, what is this? The boss gets one growth rule. Yeah, not to mention the fact how, and I know you'll get to it. Tara Reed is also being very outspoken about this cut between Nancy Mason, George Stephanopoulos. Howie Carr's got all of that and so much more right after the break. [MUSIC]