Built For The Game with Rob Cressy

Running To Rewrite Our Story

Broadcast on:: 09 Oct 2024
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When life throws challenges and adversity your way, how do you rise above it? In this episode of Built For The Game, Rob Cressy is joined by Lucas Guariglia as we share powerful stories of confronting mental health struggles and near-death experiences, using running as a means to transform hardship into personal growth and resilience.

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And Lucas and I have a long history together where when I originally created Bacon Sports, you are my apparel company for this, where your level of excellence and all you do at Robo Creative is something that inspired me and not only you're an awesome person, but the way that you do business is awesome, but we're not actually here to talk about that. We're here to talk about you running the upcoming Chicago Marathon and why you're doing it and why mental health is important and how you and I have similar journeys of how we are or have leveraged training and running for marathon for a larger purpose, not only for ourselves, but to inspire other people. So where do you want to start with this, Lucas? I think the biggest wall is, you know, what we're kind of entrowing in together of just that this people and specifically, you know, men don't want to get into this side. They don't want to show there's a whole stigma, there's, you know, there's just a whole side of things that we can't be vulnerable. We can't say that there's bad days and that bad days have, you know, ultimately almost led to the demise of days. So I think that to me is the big message, not only what has been to myself, but I think to the world out there. So I don't know, it's just days are tough and days have been tough, you know, I think certainly since COVID for a lot of people, but also there's life is just tough, man. We all wanted, you know, social media has a wonderful way of painting it, that everything is great and grand and everybody's successful and doing wonderful things, but you just never, ever know. And I think from my own perspective of that, it's not that I try to portray this facade, but you know, I found myself and sure what we'll dig into in a position that I never thought I would be in and never want to be in again and I never want anybody to be. Yeah, I feel that and Lucas, I don't want to bury the lead. You're running for a cause. Where can everybody donate to you? If they're inspired by this conversation that we have, you're running the Chicago Marathon. Where can everybody donate to your journey? So I'm running for a foundation called Hope for the Day that is their magnificent. I've worked alongside them on the merch side for better part of a decade, but the main cause is for mental health awareness and suicide prevention. So I guess in terms of donating, I'm sure we can drop a link somewhere or, you know, I'll put it in the show and it'll be a link, but yes, it's a wonderful foundation and they just, you know, there's some significant, significant stats of the amount of people that unfortunately complete suicide on a daily basis and the amount of people that, you know, probably either go unnoticed, the amount of people, certainly that a foundation such as Hope for the Day has been able to help, but you know, it really is, it's a foundation and it's a community and it's just a world of people that are just there to basically help and I never found myself or thinking that I would be reaching out or leaning on a foundation like this that I've done work for and, you know, and just worked alongside and supported and donated to and all of a sudden, a year and a half ago, I find myself needing to rely on their services. So there's a few different levels we're going to go around this, but let's talk about the mental health side of things and I'm going to share a very brief story with you, Lucas, that is one of the reasons why I want to have this conversation with you because my mindset saved my life because of running a marathon. Probably about eight years ago, I trained for the DC Marine Corps marathon and my goal was to run under a four hour marathon and at mile 25 and a half, I can see the finish line. I've got a few minutes to spare. I'm about to do my first marathon, hit this massive goal in my life and the next thing I know, I wake up in a medical tent packed head to toe and ice with medics surrounding me saying Rob stay alive. I went from the greatest experience of my life to being thrown in the middle of a near death experience where if I closed my eyes, I was dead. So imagine you're just running, running, running and then all of a sudden, all I can look at is a medical tent at the top with medics around me. I have no idea what's going on. My clothes are cut off and I'm packed head to toe and ice. And look, Lucas, before this call, you mentioned something to me and the reason for this is because I had a body temperature of 170 degrees and passed out with a heat stroke. And the reason for that is because I had like a 2% cold, meaning I was on the last day or days of the cold and I took some suit effect because I was like, listen, I'm about to run a marathon. I don't want to have the sniffles. Little did I know that the suit effect did not allow my body temperature to regulate. So my near death experience went on for 20 minutes because they could not get my core body temperature down. And that's the thing that almost had me die. And the thing that saved my life, that saved my life was my mindset and I was about this life already. Maybe it's not this extent right now, but I was already about this life coaching myself, being an entrepreneur. Lucas is the way that you and I get down living every day is the best version of yourselves and doing the work, the positivity, the declarations, the meditation, the journaling. And I sat there and even though I had no idea what was going on, I was like, what can I control right now? And I was like, I can listen. So listen for positive things. So I was just listening for the word good or anything that could give me any inclination. And then number two was listen to whatever these people are saying to me because it's literally going to try and save my life. And something happened, I was like, what's the other thing I control and a light bulb went off. And I was like, if I am speaking, I am not dead. Look at that. Yeah. And I was like, if I can talk, I'm not dead. So it was a Sunday and the only thing that I could think of because they're like, Rob, what day is it? Where are you? Like, I don't know any of this. Like my mind is scrambled. You know, that's when you're training. If you ran 20 miles, like at the end of it, you're just dead, you're toast. This is your brain's mush. So the only thing I could think of is I'm a Steelers fan. The Steelers are playing the Raiders. So over and over again, my mantra became I'm a Steelers fan, the Steelers are playing the Raiders. And over and over again, and eventually speaking that into existence turned into I'm a fighter. I'm going to live. I'm a fighter. I'm going to live in this went on for 20 minutes. And I share this story because my mindset saved my life because Lucas, how easy do you think it would have been for me just to close my eyes and opt out? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's that I don't think that, you know, I don't fault anybody for dying because you didn't, you know, you didn't have enough mental strength, but, but yeah, I mean, that you were, you were there and for you to understand that I think and to take that experience and say, no, this isn't going to be the story and keep moving is that's, that's empowering. And I, I only knew, I didn't know, I shouldn't say that, I knew this story because I remember I've seen you write about it and I've seen it and it's, it's, it's wild. And I remember thinking that's absolutely insane and now to know because we just intro with me saying that of course I wake up, you know, six days out from this marathon and I have a head cold and now I know don't take suit of fed. Well, what 100% so here's the yes into this. I had a story that did not serve me after this. So of course, as you can imagine, I was given a renewed sense of life where I'm now shooting rainbows and care bears out of everything. I'm like, I should have been dead. I'm alive. I'm already the happiest person on earth, but let's go. But here became the problem Lucas and this is about the mental health side of things. I'm an athlete. I'm always doing something. So naturally someone would be like, Hey, Rob, have you ever run a marathon? And now I have to say, yes, I ran a marathon. No, I didn't finish and then just reshare that whole story. Yeah. And I don't even, I get it. I don't think that counts. You did more than a marathon, but, but that's your perspective, right? So the story that we have, because that, I didn't want that to be the story. So no one sitting there being like, Rob, you didn't do enough. But my story was this not the story that I wanted in that just, it aided me, not in a massive way, just in a small, self-limiting way to where at some point I got, and there's a several years later where I was like, I want to change this story. This is not the one that is serving me, which is going to lead into what you're doing, because I then used that story to train for the Pittsburgh marathon in 2022 to say, I have a reason why I'm doing this, because I am doing this for the new story of who I am, and not allowing those self-limiting thoughts and beliefs to define who I am. Because Lucas, whether it's me having a story about not finishing a marathon, or the not enoughness, the scarcity, the challenges, the obstacles of life that feel so heavy at times to us, it's all one and the same, because as you said at the beginning, these are taboo topics. Everything always has to be puppy dogs and rainbows in the world. But what happens when we're not okay, and we have no one else to talk to, and for me, that's why I have used running as a way of earning my confidence to re-change my story. So can you share why you are running a marathon to change this story for yourself? Yeah. Well, one, I'm happy that you're here. Thank you, me too. This suitifed didn't take you out. But yeah, I mean, like yourself, I've always grown up, I've been an athlete forever, I've done over 11 triathlons, I've done half marathons, I've been, you know, I want to say that one of the most influential people in my life certainly was my grade school, and then into high school basketball coach. And, you know, I think it was not only, you know, I'm not in the NBA, and I was nowhere close to the NBA, but it was a sense of work ethic, and it was a sense of this accomplishment that if you want something, you know that putting in the hard work can get you there. And so, you know, I've had that mentality through and through in just life and the music industry and just in business in general. But, you know, where I came to as soon as I found myself in these dark days, and you know, they're not, you know, everybody goes through things, and everything doesn't have to always be the most extreme situation. But, you know, I find myself just in a situation I had two very, very influential and close, close people to me diagnosed with cancer. They both beat it within a year. I lost somebody that I absolutely consider a brother, had to give a eulogy for the first time, and it was just, you know, some of the toughest, toughest things. I've been dealing with some very life changes just in the business world. You know, I think there's still the impact of coming off of COVID, having, I have a wonderful three and a half year old son, beautiful wife. You know, we've had, we have all these things, but all of them happen very quickly through COVID and the world breaking down and trying to keep a business alive and kind of worrying about people and everything that goes through there. So, all of a sudden, I found myself in these dark days where I was just, I was not here. I would sit with my wife watching TV and I was so spaced out and removed that she would have to really kind of bring me back and just saying she could see it. She read it on my face and she would ask me what, what is it? And I couldn't answer, and I couldn't answer not because I didn't know, but I was so scared to death of the fact that this is in my mind. And I've never been this person, you know, when I got to the point, fortunately, of being able to talk to people about it, the first question that they said was, you know, did you have a plan? And you know, beyond that, I wondered what do you mean? Did you have a plan for suicide? Did you have a way to carry this out? And luckily, I didn't. And I don't know if that was the last step of this. I just knew that there was this overwhelming feeling of darkness and feeling like there's no way out of this. And the only things that really did kind of keep me there was the fact that one, there's just no way. I've accomplished so many of these things and so many hurdles in my life and like, are you kidding me? This is going to be this end to this story. And it was, you know, I say that now that, you know, to myself sounds like an easy thing to say and just to overcome, but it wasn't. It was just every day, the same thing and this darkness and closing in and closing in. And I found myself, I was having conversations with people, some of which I had never even met before, hour long, hour and a half long conversations to the point of getting emotional with them and not, you know, not pleading with them saying that I need you to save me, but not even realizing until months after the fact that like, I was reaching out to people. I was there and I was trying to be vulnerable and break down these walls and, you know, I'd go out on normal runs and halfway through, I would just break down. I would be crying to myself and not, you know, knowing why, but not knowing why. And ultimately, that's what kind of centered me on it. I had gone through, you know, I'd been in the midst of a lot of these dark times the previous summer, I committed myself to another triathlon and saying, look, these training sessions are a way for me to meditate. I can pray, I can talk to whoever I want to, I'm by myself and I get this kind of solitude. And so I committed to that and thinking, look, this is going to be a healthy way for me to deal with this. So I did that, made it through, thought that everything was fine and then found myself even deeper and that was, I guess, the first thing that I knew of what to do. I had already done, you know, a bunch of triathlons and my wife jokingly was like, you've done 11. It's not special anymore. You need to pick something special because we've gone to too many of these. And so I kind of half acidly was like, screw it, I'll do the marathon. And I knew in that moment that I didn't really want to do it. I love being an athlete, I love distance running, but I don't love the ridiculousness of marathon distance running. And to me, the commitment was, this is going to be grueling. This is going to be horrible at times. This is going to be its own mental battle, or mental battle. It's going to be strenuous and it's going to be lonely because training, yes, you can do group runs, you can do all of the stuff, but at the end of the day, having been, you know, a basketball player, football player, you have a team. You don't have anybody but yourself when you are running these races. You don't have anybody when you're in these training sessions or you're not wanting to wake up at six in the morning, you're not wanting to do this after full days or whatever it is. And that's what I wanted. I wanted that for myself. I wanted that for what this message could be to other people of, look, let's dig into it. We've already been here. We've been at the bottom of this. We've moved past this. It's going to be incremental steps of getting to the other side of this. And to me, it was just, it was symbolic of the whole thing, you know, getting to that point. And I'm not there yet at the finish line, but the whole time it's just been, I know that when I get over that finish line, that that is something that I will never forget from my own steps, just for the sake of running the Chicago Marathon, that's great. That's memorable. But it means so much more to me for that. And the times that I've been able to have conversations with people that are, have been struggling, that are currently struggling, not forcing you to say, go for front of Marathon. But you could take it into any context that it is and just know that you can do anything that you put your mind to. And it doesn't have to just be, how am I going to surmount this enormous mountain in front of me? You might not do that. You're not going to, but you can do it one step at a time. And knowing that the person you're holding accountable is yourself. And I see you day in and day out, you know, how many times that you don't want to go out for the run at five, five AM, that mental voice goes off like, nah, screw it, I'll just do it tomorrow. I'll do it later. I'll do it later. And so that self accountability is something that I think meant more to me in this because it's not only, you know, my heart and soul, and yes, everything that's on my back of, you know, for my son, for my wife, for my family, for the story, for my friends, for all of this too. But just the fact that it is, we can do this and we're getting there. And there's been a lot of those moments where I didn't want to do it anymore. And I just kept reminding myself that, that answer, that voice was not an, or it was an option in those dark days, but we turned that off and we said, I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to listen to this. I'm not going to have this be the case. And I'm going to beat this and I'll defeat it and I'll do it every step of the way that I have to do it, knowing that it's going to be terrible. And I think that the last, you know, in the last couple of weeks, I've been trying to like, we're, you know, in the tapering process of getting there and the long, the most recent long one of 20 miles halfway through it, I, I was emotional again. Because to me, it was like, we're here, we're here and it's taken so many weeks to get here and there's been so much that is here. And it was like, you know, the self validation of it, but we're doing it. And we've, we're, we're not there yet, but we're very close to it. And I took those moments and, you know, all of the moments between listening to music and podcasts and then getting bored of running halfway across the state and then realizing I can just be in silence too and really taking that time to myself, to, to think myself, to thank, you know, the higher powers that, you know, I'm a very spiritual person that thank you for this body and for this drive that I have, for the ability to get here and just really thanking the people that have been there and influential in my life to getting to that point. So I made this commitment, you know, a couple weeks ago that, what are you going to wear for the marathon? What are you going to do for this? And my shorts have, I think there's 11 or 12 of them, a list of 11 people that have been very influential along the whole road of this. And each one of those, there's no specific, you know, lineup of what that is, but being able to look down at any point, you know, whether it's in that 11th mile or the 10th mile, but just taking a time to step back and look at that, look at that name and say, I'm here because I committed to this and because I'm here and because I want to be. But also you're on this journey with me. You've been on this journey with me and I'm kind of carrying this pride and I'm carrying this for all of us. And so, you know, it's, it's an emotional thing and I don't, you know, I don't, I don't know what that's going to feel like at the finish line. I can assume what it's going to finish, what it's going to feel like. But at the same time, it's like that I want to get there so bad, but I don't want it to be over yet and it doesn't have to be over. And you know, I don't think that it is something that will be over because, you know, mental health struggle is, is, is something I think that, will it be there? Probably, you know, the stuff that I've gone through will probably surface in some element or to some aspect in my life again. And so this just looking at as a training regimen for that and a way to not only see when that darkness is starting to seep in and knowing that, no, we've done this before and we can do it again, but we're not going to let this happen. And that, you know, really beyond raising money for an amazing foundation and, you know, trying to spread this message, but, but doing it in a way that I just know that there's a lot of people who are either in a same position who may be too afraid to open up about it, too afraid to talk about it. And that's opening that door, I guess, knowing that, look, I'm not, I'm not the strongest guy in the world. I'm not certainly the most successful guy in the world or anything towards that, but it doesn't matter, we're all just the same type of person at the end of the day and there's hard days and there's great days and, and that, you know, I think I learned a lot of that coming off of COVID, too, but also just, you know, having gone through this, it is like, look, just be there, check on people, make sure everybody's good. And you know, if they need a little oomph, then how can I help? If you can inspire, you don't need to remember my name. You don't ever need to, you know, I don't need my shout outs, but I'd love to be that person at some point in some person's life, running that marathon, running that 5K or something that is like, man, I heard that story, you know, and it resonated with me and here I am and I'm, and I'm doing it. And after all these races, here I am in my daily life, just saying, no, we're not going to let this, we're not going to let this get us, whether it's the, you know, the ultimate worry of, of, of suicide or mental health or whatever it is, or it's just, you know, having to get through a shitty week and saying, no, we're good, I'm good, I know how to do this. So, I don't know, I'm excited, I firmly believe that a lot of things happen for very important reasons, you know, beyond having to be committed to this, but once again, you know, kind of connecting with you and having just a similar story of, you know, trying to find those bigger messages and really living in the moment of that. And so, I love that you've, you've been there, I loved it, you know, we've been friends, we've, you know, we've worked together and it's just, there doesn't need to be a bigger reason of why we were connected, but we've been connected and it's, it's very cool. So I appreciate your story and you having lived it and, and the fact that you're still kicking ass, you know, that's the, that's the point. Yeah. And, and thank you so very much for sharing all of that, Lucas. It was inspiring, it was giving me chills, it was real and there's, there's so many things that you said that I want to highlight out here because, for me, this is a mindset of lifestyle and a way of being. I always say I never set out to become a coach, I've just lived like one for 12 years because I know what it's like to not be this person and the, the things that I want to just sort of pop open in my head is that I have the fears, the judgments, the doubts, the self-limiting beliefs, the not enoughness, every single day at all times and that's sort of one of the ever present awarenesses of this of like, how in the world or why do you keep doing these things going for these runs on the days that you do not want to because I know that tomorrow that self-limiting voice is going to pop back up again. So if I do not, then am I going to allow that to win because it's very much a micro to micro moment. And it's why I say that this is a mindset, a lifestyle and a way of being because we are always aware that comfortable is always comfortable, look as it takes nothing for you and I just to say, not today, I'm not running at 5am, I'm just going to sit on my couch and then that one action becomes the snowball for everything else. So I took some notes that you said that really inspired me. This is going to be the end to this story and there's two different ways that I heard that, obviously, the one that you and I do not want, man, this is the end of all ends or the empowering one for people like you and I and someone listening right now. This is the end of the story that is not serving me anymore that you and I going for this run doing these marathons, the reframe that says, you know what, I know all of those other things happen to me and the quote that changed my life. So I was at a, I was running actually a race called Drive Way to Hell at Jesse Hitzler's house and it was an up and down hill half marathon and while there, there's a guy named Chris Houthe who is a former Olympian, I believe he's a swimmer and there was like an opportunity to like mingle with these like amazing people and I went up to him and I sort of shared this story with him about my marathon and like how this story just wasn't serving me about the, the not finishing and he says, Rob, you don't owe your past anything. And that single sentence right there changed my life forever. Yeah, that's powerful because when I embodied that, it is just the past and Lucas, you and I being entrepreneurs and family people, we look through the windshield, not the rear view, but mental health is oftentimes looking at the rear view or projecting the darkness. So if it's like dark day after day after day after day, it's so easy to get trapped into the, this is now the story of my life and I, I feel trapped and I can't get out of this. And when he said, you don't know your past anything, like it, it's on my belt for the game manifesto. I want that every single day because once again, this is going to be the end to this story question mark or exclamation points. And when I see that, I'm like, ah, this is the end because we have the opportunity every single day for how we're going to show up and choose what we do in this world. And you talked about the training sessions being an opportunity for you. And man, this is, this is where the way that I think about running got transcended because now the space in our thoughts for ourselves, well, what we were trying to run from, but now they become the opportunity to remove the noise. And it's a big difference, but it's a choice of which voice are we listening to. And when I would do my training runs, and I still do, I would take the first mile, maybe two, sometimes up to five, if it's a long run of no podcast, no music. I'm training in Sarasota, Florida, and it's 515 AM pitch dark out stars everywhere. And I look around not a single person, not a single car, me versus me. And this is where the empowering and the fire comes in Lucas because the story that I hear from you and me is like this Phoenix rising up because we're not going to judge ourselves for the person that we were that had these challenging times. We recognize it and say, we can do something about this. And the real courage is to take that first step, not overdramatize what all of the steps need to look like, because Lucas, you fortunately or unfortunately are going to experience how many steps go into that marathon because 40 million, right, the whole, Oh, it's so much easier when you get to the end, right from talk to Lucas at mile 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 and 26 to 26.2 and tell me how each one of those steps feel. You want to conquer your mindset? Talk to Lucas at mile 21 and then report back to each of us what you're feeling because I can tell you when I read in the Clearwater Marathon in January, welcome to the pain cave. I did not want to move forward. My mind was like, barf, I'm done. And you're like, and you said this, Lucas, not today, not today. I'm doing another step. So what I would do legitimately, I will walk to that sign. I am running to that mailbox. I am running to that person with a sign and this one mile from mile 21 to 22 was a series of sign mailbox, post person sign mailbox and then boom, mile 22 is there and you're like, oh my God, five more miles feels like I got to find a lot more, a lot more, uh, mailboxes. Right. Exactly. And I wanted to share this because the, the message that's really coming through me right now is that we're all experiencing this. And even on Lucas's journey of this marathon that you're going to go on, the man, you, you hear this certainty in this power inside of you right now. But what everybody doesn't see is that you're about to drop into the pain cave and transform yourself in a way where that which used to limit you now empowers you and you are not going to let the story of that moment, those steps from 21 to 26.2 to stop you from creating that brand new story for yourself. Yeah. No, that's, that's it. And, and you know, I think that it's sometimes it's tough if people haven't been in that to, to, to understand that, but yeah, setting those go, you got a lot of time, man. I mean, if you had four hours or five hours, that's a lot of time to have a lot of voices in your own head saying, why are we doing this? Why are we still doing this? We don't have to do this. We, we paid for this. So there's, there's plenty of time for, you know, those, all those negative things to come in, but there's also plenty of time for, for you to set those and say, I didn't want to go, you know, to that mailbox. And we did. Cool. Let's go to the next one. Let's go to the next one. And, and when I've been explaining it to people who have done, you know, certainly not heavy, heavy distance running, that I would get to a point, you get to a point where it became at mile, you know, 15, 16, there's only three more miles. And I would put my head down and all of a sudden I'd pick my head up and two miles would have fallen off without you even realizing it. And it, that's what I kept like setting myself back to of like, you know, there, it seems such a big monotonous thing, but also like, as soon as you start realizing, it's just, yes, it may seem a little ridiculous. It's just a mile. It's just another two miles. It's just another three miles. It is. But it's the same thing as, well, I could just get up and not do this work right now. But you could also just do it. And as soon as you're through, you're going to be like, oh, that wasn't that bad. And let's go to the next thing. Let's go to the next thing. So yeah, it's, it's, it's the goal setting. It really is. And I think that that just transcends, you know, certainly athletics and anything else. But you can do it. Take it in the small steps and, and it becomes, you know, a lot of steps eventually. And that's, that's something awesome to just to look back to and to say that, you know, it's people either just starting out of like they never ran a mile, run that mile and then that mile is going to turn into two, going to turn into five and you can take it for as far as you want to. But I think that that's just, you know, something that has always been inspired to me for, for coaches and just elite athletes, you know, like David Goggins, it is like the guy's a complete maniac. But you, if you, you talk to him and you listen to his mindset, there's, there's nothing crazy about him at all. He just turned off everything else and he's just so focused on what's going on. And, and there's something so miraculous and powerful to me about how much strength and power there is in our mind, part and soul that leaves the, you know, the body is certainly necessary as part of that vehicle, but you don't even need that. You know, you, when you think that you were at that, that's, I can't do any more steps. You are so far from that limit of, of that. It's just mentally getting there and saying, I don't even care what I'm listening to right now. You're, my mind is telling me my hips hurt, my foot hurts, but man, you could probably go another 20 miles. That's what Goggins said, you know, you've only hit, you've only hit 40% that's the number. So Lucas, I want to send so much love and strength and positive energy for you and running the Chicago Marathon. My wife has run the Chicago Marathon. I've got friends that have run the Chicago Marathon. I lived in Chicago for more than a decade. It's where you and I became friends. I've cheered people on. I'm cheering you on from where I am right now. And thank you for reaching out to me with your message so that we could share this message that if this helps even one person, then it is our duty in the world to share it. And that was our goal of this. So sending tons of energy with you and know that when you get to 21 to 26, that's where I am with you, that you got this. I'm proud of you and where can everybody connect with you? Socials, Lucas ideas is my handle on Instagram. I mean, everything else is pretty much posted on there. So beyond that, you know, the link that will drop in there for hopefully the day and any fundraising too. But yeah, likewise, you know, I appreciate all the love and all the support and everything. And, you know, I mean, just being able to carry on this message. So however we can do that, even if it's beyond this whole running thing, my phone's always on. I'm a complete maniac when it comes to responding to people and everything. So you know, my door is always open if someone wants to talk, if somebody is struggling or just needs anything, then I'm here, hope of the day, wonderful foundation. There's certainly plenty of others that are out there, but you know, take whatever steps are there and keep everybody in a good place. So yeah, I appreciate you having me on and just being able to talk through this. I love your story. I'm glad that you're still here. And it's inspiring to see that other people go through it and that we're here on the other side and really trying to hand that off to other people. So yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I might call you along the way and say I'm kind of bored right now. So gladly I shoot some fire and I'm going to leave with this. We all rise together. And if anything that Lucas Wright talked about today inspired you or caused you to think or take action, hit me up at Rob Cressio and all social media platforms would love to have a powerful conversation and support you on that journey. [MUSIC]