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5 Year Anniversary Of Howie Kendrick's Grand Slam, Can Teams Adjust To Jayden Daniels?
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Number one, I have been scouring the internet to find this all day. I saw it while scrolling last night. I kind of laughed at it and thought I'd bring it up to you didn't know if it would be on air or off air, but I keep forgetting so it's going to be on air. There's nothing funny about what's going on in Florida to be clear. Yep. There's nothing funny about it. Terrible storm. Our thoughts, our prayers with everybody. Hopefully those that needed to evacuate did sounds like it's going to be a brutal storm in the evening and throughout the rest of the day and on and in tomorrow. But there was this clip I saw and I'm assuming it was real. I guess it's possible I got deep faked on the internet. Like Anderson Cooper was interviewing a lady and he was asking her like, what are you bringing with you? How do you even decide when you're packing up your house? And she said, I'm just going to bring some clothes in my pickleball racket. The tone of her answer was hysterical. Like she was very sad and she's like, I'm going to pack some clothes and my pickleball racket. And I saw it and I meant to send it to you and I didn't. And now I can't find it anywhere. So there's like a 37% chance it was like a deep internet. It was somebody's AI bit. Yeah, but it looked pretty real, I will say. It did not look like a fake. But it was the latest evidence, I'd say that people need their pickleball. That was going to be what she used for her mental health. Well, you find the paddle that you like, you don't want to relinquish it. I mean, I think about this racket or a paddle. It's a paddle. What's the difference rackets for tennis or for a racquetball? But I mean, actually, is it, you know, racket is open like water goes through it where the paddle is solid? I'm sure there's a technical difference I'm not aware of. Okay. But like this to me, the pickleball paddle is a cousin of an actual ping pong paddle. You never call it a ping pong racket, right? You know, it's a paddle. So paddle, I think would be solid flat. Sounds right to me. Impenetrable racket. You like put your fingers through. You can aerate a little bit. Yeah. But you find you get it wrapped the right way, you get the balance on it. I mean, I've got my, there's different spots we can put your lead, your lead out, you know, tape weight, right, to change the sweet spot of the paddle. So I do the, I do the on top of my Ruby six zero, right, for a little bit more power, because that's a control paddle. Whereas before I had the YOLA G, you know, Gen one, I wanted at the bottom for more control. So you're always trying to find that balance. If there's a fire, I'm going to make sure my family's okay, but I'm going to get my Ruby six zero out of there. Is your current paddle, the paddle you'll have in three years? No. Oh, why is that? It'll wear out. I don't need that exact one, but that model. Oh, that's a question. Or are you still climbing? Like have you gotten the nicest one on the market? Or are you still like, well, I don't need the nicest paddle. So I'll get a good one that's not oh, we're not in the I don't need the nicest paddle phase. That's well, that's a long time ago. So you have the nicest paddle? No, I have a paddle that's right for me. So in other words, there are more expensive paddles than what I have. But I mean, I tested a million different things. How much does a paddle cost? Highest level ones can be three hundred bucks. I mean, that's outrageous. Give or take. So if I'm just going to go play once a week with other guys that don't play at all, what should I spend on the paddle? You could like, are you like, do you have any goals of ever like to this hypothetical? Of course not. It's so recreational. It just doesn't matter. Yeah, whatever you do is not what I do. Right. No, I want to just go out there. I don't in this hypothetical. Yeah. I want to sweat and play pickleball against guys that don't play pickleball. Yeah, I would say high end is probably 65, $70, 80 bucks, maybe, for a decent one that'll last you for a while. And the nicest one you can buy if you're on the tour is 300. Yeah, or sometimes north of that. Okay, what's Danny who they have? So my YOLA is a $300 paddle. I'm going to add my Ruby six zero. I think it was one 79 with a 10% discount code. That's the new one. Yeah, that's the one I have now. Oh, so you downgraded a little bit, but it's just different because the the paddle that I needed just as we talk about my pickleball game a lot is you and I obviously this is like what people tuned in to listen for. Yeah, like I was too power based. Like I'm going to supply the power. I was trying to over hit and bully people go through everything. I'm going to pull your wife and just stop you while you're ahead. But I'm almost done. You play gets high level players. I need to control two pickleball paddles for $500. Well, when you put it that way, it sounds ridiculous. I mean, it's but like how much money have you spent on this hobby? Again, you pickle balls. Well, yeah, of course I do. So I can play. I mean, it's just I would think it'd be one of the cheapest sports you could play. You just need a paddle and a ball. Well, you also need a court to play on and a net and stuff like that. I mean, but yeah, so it's a lot because I put a court at my house also, but like the point is that's right. So it's not just a couple hundred bucks that I'm in. I'm in a little bit deeper than that. I mean, your infatuation with pickleball. Show me your taxes. My wife been texting you. She is not. I wasn't even thinking about the court. That even makes it funnier than I'm like, Dana, you spent $300 on a racket. Yeah, it's a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of it. To the guy who built a court in his backyard so that I could play. It's a it's a it's a love. It's a passion. It's incredible. Good. It's easy to play with you. I've seen it now. Yeah, it's easy to play. Anybody can pick it up and start playing, but it's really hard to be great at. And that's the beauty of it. Like it's a lower barrier, eventually, then like a golf or whatever. You got to spend a million bucks and then you stink for nine years until you get like the right lesson and then you shoot a hundred and four and you're supposed to be happy. No, no, it's easy. Well, this clip, if it was real, was just an all-timer because this woman standing there and Anderson Cooper's asking like, how do you decide what you bring with you what you're putting in that suitcase as you're getting in your car, not knowing what you come back to. And she's like, I'm taking clothes in my pickleball bat, not a racket, a paddle. Five years ago today, where were you? Five years ago today, October 10th or 9th, I guess, 2024. I'll tell you where I was. I was living in Kingstown at a townhouse with my wife and our brand new baby. And I was the only one to wake downstairs and I started screaming at the top of my lungs because Howie Kendrick had a grand slam to help the Nationals beat the Dodgers in game five of the division series. As I'm watching these playoff games like the rest of you are, I'm longing for playoff baseball and I'm increasingly more annoyed, frustrated and devastated that the nats haven't been back in the playoffs since 2019. But we've got an anniversary today, my friend, the division series, the fifth game five years ago, man, and the grand slam in the 10th inning by Howie Kendrick against the Dodgers. I'll field shades right infield in all the way around to her and see her on the left side. Hernandez and Muncie on the right. Kelly's one strike pitch. So we got a fly ball center field deep. Bellinger going back to the warning track to the wall. It's a grand slam. Howie Kendrick has done it. They're going crazy and the Nationals dug out. Howie Kendrick with a grand slam here in the 10th inning of game five, the Nationals seven, the Dodgers three. Do you believe it? What a call by Jags. First of all, A plus second of all, let me take you back if you don't mind. Bottom nine. Enrique Hernandez, who destroys the Nationals, thank God they kept him in the yard, base it to left field and one out will Smith up at that. Sitting on a pitch, he drills a ball to right field deep. Adam Eaton is sprinting back towards the one and track towards the wall. The Dodger bench empties onto the field. Arms raised. We got it. We just did it. We just beat him. We're going to the NLCS Adam Eaton touches the wall, snaps it in, catches it, delivers it back into the infield. Everybody goes back quietly. I thought it was over right then. Next batter, Chris Taylor hits a ball 247,000 miles an hour to dead center field right at Michael A. Taylor. We go to the 10th. Adam Eaton works a walk off Joe Kelly. Anthony Rendon, of course, hits an absolute piss missile to left field that would have gone out if it had any air on it at all. But it didn't. Yeah, doubled off the bottom of the wall. Juan Soto intentionally walk. You don't want to mess with Juan Soto. How Kendrick bases drunk? Nobody out. I'm going. If there's ever a time, if there's ever a time with how we Kendrick who struggled in the series was putting balls around in the field like he'd never put a glove on before. Why not? How we Kendrick, the veteran, used to play in L.A. Swings in a first pitch slider rolls over a ground ball found going, Oh my God, he's going to hit no double play. This is the worst case scenario. What are we doing? Fastball down and then off the plate, lower below his knees. He gets it out to center field. I'm going, okay, maybe it's deep enough for a sack fly. There's Freddie Prince Jr. A.K. Cody Bellinger turning back on his horse running backwards. Disbelief gives way to joy. I have never, as a sports fan, screamed that loud in my life. That's the moment to me that everything changed. I rewatched that eighth, ninth and 10th inning in spurts with Clary today before the show, because the eighth inning people sleep watched and it was down by two runs three to one. And so many times in the past in October, you've had your heart broken as a nat fan and as a DC sports fan, because the team just didn't come up with hits, didn't come up with runs, couldn't score. And in that situation down three to one, Anthony Rendon, it's a home run off Clayton Kershaw to lead off the inning. And in the next pitch, Juan Soto at 20 years old, crushes a new complete no doubt at a right center field to tie the game three to three. Kershaw drops down onto his knees in disbelief and despair on the mount, staring at the ground because once again, this future Hall of Famer who at that time had no positive recollections and playoff baseball had been gotten. They immediately come out and get them. Dave Roberts, Yanks, the ball out of his hand. Kershaw goes and every other shot, the rest of the game was Kershaw staring on in disbelief after the camera facing in the dugout three to three back to back home runs. Then they go to the ninth. You referenced what happened when the Dodgers almost walked it off. And then in the 10th, the inning that led to the Kendrick Grand Slam change in the world. But, you know, for me, that the hit against the Brewers was kind of my reckoning that this is different, that this thing can actually happen. But that's when you knew they're a buzzsaw. They are a juggernaut. Yeah, this was the one to me. This is a magical carpet ride. They had been the hit against the Brewers was amazing. I'm not knocking it, but we're comparing like epic moments, you know, like, so it's winning our own up Mount Rushmore here. That was to get to where they'd been. And they got to that place again, where there's a winner take all game. And you just have that pit in your stomach where you're going. Is it going to happen again? Are we going to get Dodger again? Totally. Here's my argument, though. The feeling being in the ballpark that I had had so many times before in the cub series, in the cardinal series, in a game five, certainly. And namely, the worst was the Dodger series previously. That feeling of being in the ballpark all night, waiting for the big hit, the giant series I would throw in there from way back in 14. And the hit never came. It's like being on a deserted island, thinking every time the airplane light is flying overhead, that maybe this one's going to see maybe wants this helicopter is going to stop and hover and go, Oh my God, they saw me. And every time you're going, he might get a hit. No, he might get a hit. You do that for nine innings. And then you score once and you lose, right? That's what happened year after year after year. And the Milwaukee game, the same vibe, same feel. And they punched through with that inning. And it's bedlam in the ballpark at home. So that's why I put that one like higher for me. But it doesn't change the fact that my screams again, baby upstairs, wife asleep. And my wife knew what had happened. So that wasn't like she was upset, but screaming at the top of my lungs. In fact, Clary showed us a video today of him at his house. His dad's in the living room. He's laying in his own bed. He didn't want to watch the game with his dad for some reason, which is odd. We'll cover that another time. But he starts screaming in a way that you would have thought someone was stabbing him. I mean, and he's running around his house. It's a great video. We try to pull the audio, but it's it's on Snapchat from like eight updates ago. So yeah, it's it's tough. And I actually I convinced myself during that postseason run that when the Nationals were on the road, we would only win if I was watching the game in my bedroom. Makes sense. Pull those covers up. Yeah. We won. It was great. So that's why your dad was because on the video, you can hear your dad like in the other room going, come on, get it. Howie. Exactly. And Clary, a little Clary is sitting this 19 year old with probably Ryan Clary. Yep. Yeah. 19 years old then, uh, laying in his bed, watching the game, and then you jump up screaming and run out to the room. There's a big gap. Like, like as soon as how he made contact, and I knew off the bat that it was gone. And my life changed five years ago today, five years, man, Andrews and Stafford. What's up, Andrew? Andrew, you will get nothing. Andrew, and you will like it. Disappointing very much so. I wonder how that happens because he's still on the phone. So like, what is he hearing when we go to him? And so I was wondering about that. Sometimes I actually spoke to somebody who said they, they call this once and something was happening in their life at that moment. So they hit mute. And then they forgot that they muted themselves. And they said, they're going, Hey, guys, they're taking my call and we're not responding. And nothing happens. And then it's over. That already hates us. One of the two could be that. It could be these like, I like them enough to call them, but I give them the silencer because I hate their guts. The question on the call screener that made me want to pick it up before we moved on was he wanted to ask, did you scream louder after the Howie home runner after the Coosie goal? Howie home run? And because the Coosie goal wasn't instantaneous in terms of viewing. So if you remember it, you couldn't see the puck live. Now people right behind the goalie at Pittsburgh side, and they headed for the exits. He went five hole. You're right. And it was kind of like he started reacting like skating off, but it was not an easy it beat him moment. Yeah. So there's a delay and you're sitting there going, did he? Like, so what happened was my buddy who I watched these games with goes, he saved it. And then I said, no, he didn't. And then we're sort of sitting there and disbelief, and we all hugged and went nuts. But that instantaneous, I'm thinking it's a sack fly, and you can see the ball and it's beyond the wall. That primal euphoric scream I haven't had. The grand slam is also there's something about that. Yes, there is. It gives you a little more juice. That's hard to say. My reaction for Coosie was wilder. I ran around. I was hugging people. I was kind of squealing. I would discriminate. I was definitely screaming. I laughed a lot. Like, you know what I mean? I just sort of was like nervously cackling. For howie, I was by myself, which is different. And I was top of my lungs yelling. So I probably screamed louder for howie, but my reaction was more like if it's on camera for both, better for Coosie, if that makes sense. That was this like, finally that that I just sent down to just relief in the drink, Scott, John's in Arlington. Hello, John. Hey, boys. How you doing? Good. Good. I was just calling to thinking about the howie Kendrick anniversary and how prolific that playoff run was. At that time, my wife and I were expecting our first child and we were going back and forth about what to name him. And we decided on howie. No way. Because of all because of howie Kendrick. Yes, she'll show why and say it wasn't, but we don't know the truth. So howie is five now? Baby, howie's five or almost? Yeah. Well, he, yeah, he's almost, he was born in May of 2020. So he, she was just, you know, growing him at that time. Gotcha. So four year old howie, you got to watch with howie. I know, yeah, he'll go, he'll be pumped. So there's still, there's still debate. Like we're looking to name him howie. And then it's like fly ball to right field. If it's fair, it's gone. Boom. That kid's howie. Yeah. Part two, for sure. This was Bill Belichick on how he would defend Jaden Daniels on television yesterday on ESPN. Yeah, he's had a great start to the season. It's been fantastic. And, you know, he handled the, the Browns defense with, you know, coach Schwartz, you know, well, but this play right here is what you can't let him do is get out of the pocket and extend plays. He can run and, and when he gets out and has clear vision, he can throw the ball and make all the throws down the field. So the best way to defend him, I think, is to keep him in the pocket. That's easier said than done, but he's a very explosive athlete and can kill you with his legs. And, and if he has time and space, he can get outside. And, you know, like I said, find some space out there and, you know, find open receivers. So he did a good job against Cleveland. And that's not a bad defense. So we'll see what happens this week against the Ravens, kind of a crossdown rivalry there. But, you know, Jaden's had a tremendous start to his career and, and they're playing well, Cliff's running the ball probably a little bit more than he did when he was at Arizona. And as every quarterback knows, nothing helps a passing game, more in a good running game. I want to get into his idea of how to stop Daniels by keeping him in the pocket, because it seems almost like common sense, but it's way easier to say it than to actually do it. Do you guys think that's going to start happening? Our team's going to be able to do that. And do we expect an adjustment to come that really knocks Daniels in this offense down a peg early in the year we were saying, you know, that the bottom will fall out. The adjustment's coming. There's going to be a moment where Daniels and Kingsbury kind of hit a wall and then they've got to make their own adjustment. Do we still think that that is inevitable? And do we think that it is imminent, you know, happening here shortly? 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Bonus issued is now withdrawal bonus bets that expire seven days after receipt. Restrictions apply, see terms at sportsbook.fandul.com, gambling problem, call 1-800-522-4700. Yeah, he's had a great start to the season. It's been fantastic. And, you know, he handled the Browns defense with, you know, Coach Swartz, you know, well, but this flight right here is what you can't let him do is get out of the pocket and extend plays. He can run and when he gets out and has clear vision, he can throw the ball and make all the throws down the field. So the best way to defend him, I think, is to keep him in the pocket. That's easier said than done, but he's a very explosive athlete and can kill you with his legs. And if he has time and space, he can get outside. And, you know, like I said, find some space out there and, you know, find open receivers. So, but he did a good job against Cleveland and that's not a bad defense. So we'll see what happens this week against the Ravens, you know, across town rivalry there. But, you know, Jayden's had a tremendous start to his career and they're playing well, Cliff's running the ball probably a little bit more than he did when he was at Arizona. And as every quarterback knows, nothing helps the passing game, more in a good running game. That is Hall of Famer, Bill Belichick. Arguably the greatest coach of all time. Certainly one of the best defensive thinkers in the history of the National Football League on how he would defend Jayden Daniels. Welcome back. Ranting Danny on the fan. Do you think an adjustment to this Washington offense is looming? Is it imminent that somebody? I don't mean for one week. That's inevitable. That's obvious, but that someone's going to crack the code and everyone else is going to do it, where you just keep them in the pocket and you beat them that way or you take one of the superpowers away, whether it is the scrambling by spying him. We have not really seen anybody play man against them yet. And maybe that could be a way to do it. If you feel good about pressing and bumping and playing man, especially opposite Terry McClellan and you spy if you do that and then you feel like maybe you keep them in the pocket that way because that was the first few weeks of the season, the big conversation everyone was having is the adjustment from the league is coming. Well, not yet. Where is it? It seems like it's only a matter of time, Danny and Bella check seems to have something that he would kind of harp on in the week leading up to a game against his team this weekend. It's just easier said than done. Yeah, it definitely is. Now it requires a lot of discipline, requires, you know, great athletes and understanding that it's not going to work every time, even with your great plan, right? When you play against great players, that's adorable. You have a plan. Could your spies keep up with Lamar Jackson? No, nobody can, right? But you know, you keep trying to crash that wave on the shore in hopes that enough positive stuff happens on your side of things. Bella chick to me, like if I boiled Dennis coaching philosophy into a couple of tenants, tenant one is everyone does their job and we got a great chance to come out on top. Tenant two is looking at opponents. I know what you want to do and what you like to do the most. You're not doing that against me. And if you beat me the other way, if you beat me doing the thing you're less comfortable doing, I'll run out and shake your hand and be gruff and tell you people I'm on a Cincinnati. That's his whole philosophy. And I think at some point people are going to try that and, or you know, maybe more to a degree than they already have what you're talking about. Basically say, we are not letting Jayden Daniels be anything other than a passer. And I think right now he's good enough to punish teams sometimes. I think eventually he'll be good enough to punish teams all the time as he kind of grows into this thing in the league. But making him do things that he hasn't done just yet is as good a chance as anybody has of slowing this offense down. So I think that is actually the big question for me. If you kept him in the pocket, do you beat them? There are quarterbacks you win when you do that. Justin Fields as an example. This many years into his career, famously the Rams against Kyler Murray. I mean, they won that playoff game by a million points because that they said nothing else. That's all you're doing. He's the next one on the list. If you keep him in the pocket like Washington did last week against Arizona and he doesn't run, you win. He cannot win from the pocket. Kyler Murray cannot win from the pocket. There are guys like that field. Same thing around the league. Daniels to me is a better passer. Certainly has way more upside than those two guys. But already at this point of his career, I would take Daniels throwing the football over Justin Fields. I would take Daniels throwing the football. Just thinking about some of the other running quarterbacks over a handful of those guys already. I think it's true though. I don't think it should be some disrespectful comment. I posted this clip and a lot of commanders fans took issue with it and bristled like they're smarter than Bill Belichick, which I'm sure they are. But I would not view this at like, it's okay for people to have a take other than the Jaden Daniels is the greatest player in the history of the world every now and then without you viewing it as a slap in the face. And by the way, he is saying that he has been amazing and incredible. He's just saying, if you keep him in the pocket, you have a chance. And I believe that his best work happens now when he's extending creating outside. And I hope that that is the superpower. That is the cape on Superman that I hope never goes away. By the way, I hope he accentuates it more and more and more and more because he's actually got foreign away the highest scramble rate in the NFL and pressured. Have you seen those numbers? Yes. They're pretty staggering. We get to those in a minute. But I do think that if you keep Jaden Daniels in the pocket and you make him read through things that you could probably have success, I just think that that's obvious. Everybody knows that and nobody's been able to do it. The Ravens will try this week. Do you not think that the Browns tried to do that? You don't think that was a talking point for Jim Schwartz? Let's make sure we don't let him get out of the pocket. And on the fifth play of the game, he did and threw it 66 yards. Yeah, you had him dead to rights. Two guys were draped all over him and he got out of the pocket and threw it down, filled to record and to change the football game. Yeah. I mean, as I said, these are said and done, but that's got to be the planet requires an unbelievable amount of discipline, right? Like the, the, the one time the end gets up field thinking he's winning and Daniel's is able to step up and then move to his right. You're now dead to rights. Well, you're basically no longer trying to get your own sack. Yeah. You're now no longer really trying to add to your pressure totals. When everyone looks up your PFF numbers, you are, but your job on the outside is contained, but you're just rushing to the edge. The problem is if you're not working in unison with your interior D linemen and whatever linebackers and muggers are going to be in the A gap, then he's going to just fly. You're creating a giant hole. If you're just containing and he just flies straight ahead and has nothing but room to run. It's really hard used to be that the line that the team used when I covered him was rushed with vision. If you have to rush with vision, you have to see where he's at. You have to hem him in. I just think it's so hard. Here's the scramble rate numbers that came out this week that I was pretty stunned by highest pressured scramble rate by a rookie since 2006, minimum 50 pressure. So think about this. That's a lot of words. When you're under pressure, how often do you throw the ball away? Do you extend the play to throw versus just pull the ball down and run? Jaden Daniels scrambles twice as much as any other rookie since 2006 when he's pressured. It's worked so far. If it ain't broke, you don't have to fix it, but this is unsustainable. I guess is the point I wouldn't make. And either you care about the date or you don't. A lot of people will just say, I've seen the games. He's amazing. He's got nothing to worry about. I'm just saying you can't scramble on 37% of your pressures all year long. Inevitably, that will not work. Either you're leaving too much on the field from a passing standpoint. Some of those big gains on the ground become much lesser gains. Eventually, you take a big shot. Josh Allen, in his rookie year, Danny scrambled at the highest rate we'd ever seen under pressure. It was 18%. Right there with Russell Wilson and Justin Fields, about a percentage point more than Robert Griffin did as a rookie. Daniels is at 37%. Now, I think that number, because it's like twice as many as the number two players, right? Basically, over the years, I do think that number calms down a little bit as it gets more experience. I also wonder, what was that number after week one, after week two? Exactly where I was going. Where are we trending? Just my gut instinct says it's trending down. And we're still at a small enough sample where, I mean, I think he, what did he scramble eight times in week one on 16 dropbacks? Something to that effect, right? The week one that just petrified me. Yeah, right. That had me going, oh, no, this is broken. So, yeah, I mean, it's something to monitor for sure. If we check back in in three or four weeks and it's still at that percentage, we're going to go, okay, hey, this is a data point. But we're basically a third of the way through the season. No, you're right. We are. And here are, forget the rookie numbers, because I think those are less important. Here are the scramble when pressured numbers in the NFL. Daniels is 37%. Lamar is second at 18 and a half percent. Again, you're talking about twice as high as the number two guy and scrambling when pressured. Now, if your point is just, it's working, leave me alone. Sure. I would just say that's not the best way. Like you could have a lot of hits and you still need to tweak the swing. You know what I'm saying? The result has been great, but this is an area where he's going to have to improve. And I think it goes hand in hand with the Belichick conversation, because Belichick's point is, you got to keep him in the pocket. What he's been able to do is scramble out of the pocket. But what happens with teams rush with more vision, do a better job not trying to sack you like the Browns did, but trying to just keep you in that area. You might run into a sack. You might run into a sack fumble. You might, you know, not get out of the pocket. You get a hold, get an intentional grab. There's a million negative things that can happen. Things start happening. That's definitely the plan. The question is, can anyone actually pull it off? Because they haven't been able to. Yeah, I think somebody can. It's going to take a good defense. I don't know that consistently. No, I don't know if this Ravens defense can do that. Like, you know what I mean? I haven't seen it yet. In years past, you know that they're going to be disciplined and do everything the right way, et cetera. You know, the pass rush hasn't really been there. It's consistent. They got a couple guys that can really get after the passer. But can they play this way? I don't know how many teams can do it. But when you get into divisional winter type stuff, when you get into playoff type stuff, which by the way is fun to be able to talk about, yeah, someone will be able to say, we're going to make you do the thing you're not as good at right now and take our chances eight hundred six three six one oh six seven. Let's hit the phones on this next MGM national Harbor listener lines. Question for you guys right now on GND. You heard what Bella check said he would try to do defensively. I think that's the idea that teams are going to have because Daniels has made so many plays with his feet running when he gets out of the pocket. And then this past week and over the last few weeks, extending plays to throw. Do you think that adjustment is coming? And what does that look like when it does? We're great and Danny. You. GND on the fan. Another chance for you to win tickets to see the caps tomorrow at four o'clock. We're actually going to be out and about a capital one arena for the big event caps 50th celebration, 50 years of hockey. We'll give you all the details before we say goodbye. On top of the hour coming up in 13 minutes, Steve Maryucci, former head coach San Francisco Detroit and NFL network analyst is going to join us right here on the fan. We're fired up about that. Do you think there's an adjustment coming to Washington's office? Are you worried that at some point teams are going to be able to keep Jaden Daniels in the pocket and to take some of his running and extension abilities away? Let's go to Adam and Cole Pepper. What's up, buddy? How are you? Hey, fella. It's been a while, man. Last time I talked to you guys, I was in a real dark, dark place sports, speaking, you know, and this is this is awesome. A lot it's been a nice several of week rest been here. Well, I was about at the end of my rope after about 30 years, but yeah, I don't think there's anything you can do just because mathematics like you really can't. I don't think you can keep them in. He flips out too easy. You can't just keep them in there for one. And if you do, like, all right, well, now you're missing a safety. So we're just going to dump it off to offer that where for 50. You can't at this moment in time and for the foreseeable, you know, few games here. I don't see what anybody's going to be able to do the way he gets away. It's just so easy for him. It makes it look easy. No doubt. This is why teams all want the running quarterback. Yeah. It's because not only in the running game are you 11 and 11 head on a hat now, but okay, I'm going to take him away and make sure he doesn't keep. Well, now my running backs going downhill and read option and he's picking up yards Alfred Morris style to the tune of 1600. It's the, okay, you're going to keep them in the pocket. You're going to use extra guys and rush with all of those guys. Okay, I got my check downs, my dump downs. I got the middle of the field here, five and seven yard drags and crossers behind you. I got a drift, a little, you know, a little in breaker dig route behind your linebackers that are coming up to spy me. You should theoretically have an answer a lot of the time. And that's why everybody, it's hard to find a guy who can do it all well. But when you do it, it's the easy cake. I mean, it's like growing up, the league is different now, but in the NBA, you had a dominant center. It forced the other team to have to play a certain way. If you have Shaquille O'Neal, you simply have to commit so many resources to cover Shaquille O'Neal. And even still, you couldn't really do it most nights, but it left other things open and available. That's kind of the same answer key here. But one thing I would add is, and we bring this up about once a week, we try not to harp on it. And there's no reason to right now. In Cliff Kingsbury's past, his offenses always got off to amazing first halves, where they were in the top five, top 10 almost annually. And then it all comes crashing down. Let's go to Smitty and Hyatt's Phil. What's up, Smitty, fellas, fellas, fellas, what's going on, man? I think that eventually, yeah, some call them coordinators, that's what they get paid to do. They're going to stay up all night and try to figure out how to stop. That's what they do. So here's the thing, the same way they stand up all night, you got Kingsbury and Daniel showing up at the facility at 4 o'clock in the morning. So they're making adjustments also. And the very definition of being special is when the defense got the right play, the right call with the right players at the right time. And he still figures out away. Yeah, and he still snatches their soul. Mm hmm. Such a good call. The Browns made the right call and executed pretty well on the 66 yard throw to McLaurin. Their good execution got beat by a spectacular special elite play. Yeah, 100 yards of offense came on plays at the Browns did a good job. You think of that one and then the fourth down scramble by Daniels for 35 yards. Yeah, you know what I mean? Where it's like they called it up, dialed it up, did everything right? Sorry, you got to like the football field against you. It's a good point too about the work that they're putting in. And I don't know if Louvoo's comment, it's being taken as literal that he gets there at 4am. I don't know that Louvoo's like, you know, looking at the time card or whatever. I think he was just kind of saying the guy gets here before I get here and I get here. I actually like him get a little bit more sleep for rest or accuperation. Like five is fun. Hey, whatever he's doing, keep doing it as far as I'm concerned. But yes, he is a worker and he seems to care a lot about the stuff that matters that nobody can see. And that's always the first tell. Mm hmm. You give me the details on whether your quarterback prospect is burning the candle at both ends as a leader, as a worker, as a study or as a film watcher. And I'll tell you if they got a chance or not. And just so happens he also happens to be one of the best athletes on the planet. It's going to Travis and Calvert on the fan. What's up, Travis? Hey, what's going on GND? How y'all doing? Good. So I think even if they find a way to somehow keep him in the pocket, it's not going to matter because he'll just do exactly the defensinatic. He'll stand there and he'll take a big shot and deliver it right in the bucket for a touchdown. We've seen it. Yeah, he can do it. There've been some highlight moments for sure. But if you're a here's the difference though, if you're a ballot check or you're a defense, you'll take that because that is such a low percentage. I don't mean that play that place specifically. It was a 10% catch up next gen stats was like a 9.8% chance to be completed. So you're saying 91% of the time he's not going to make that throw and take that hit and Terry's not going to get open and make that catch, right? But you will take the chance that he misses. You know, the Earth's middle of the field could have been a big play near touchdown to Earth's like that kind of stuff. And it's not a Jaden thing. It's a quarterback thing. You're going to miss some throws. So if you're standing in the pocket having to read things out, you're much more inclined to miss something there than you are when you get out of the pocket to not outrun a linebacker. Because I could tell you he's going to win that one a lot more than 10% of the time. What did the paradigm become to defend Pat Mahomes? Right. Make him check it down. I guarantee you Pat Mahomes can execute a four or five or six yard pass. The guy that's that good, the best ever do it is probably good enough to do that. So you're willing to take and give up certain things, right? I mean, so it's not necessarily an insult to the guy to say, Oh, yo, we're going to make a post you can't pass. It's you're basically saying you've got to execute 10 11 12 13 plays down the field every time against us. And things go wrong. It's NFL. Grant and Danny with you on the fan, some really good answers and comments coming in the question. If you're just jumping in your car, Bill Belichick with Pat McAfee gave what he believes to be the script to slow and jade and Daniels down. It started with kind of keeping him in the pocket. And we're asking you guys, if you think that's coming and if there is something defenses can do based on what we've seen, that would be a big problem for this offense. We'll get back into this for sure. With more of your calls next hour at 800 six three six one zero six seven. But next, I want to ask the same question to Steve Maryucci. He is a former offensive mind play caller and a really good one in the NFL as a head coach, playoff head coach over the years. He joins us on Grant and Danny in moments. This episode is brought to you by progressive insurance. Whether you love true crime or comedy, celebrity interviews or news, you call the shots on what's in your podcast queue. And guess what? Now you can call them on your auto insurance too with the name of your price tool from progressive. 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