Grant and Danny

Will Montgomery On The Commanders OL, Calm Or Concerned- Under Performing Teams, Double Play

10.9.24 Hour 2

1:00- Will Montgomery, former Washington OL, joins G&D to breakdown the Commanders OL and discuss how well they actually have played.

21:30- We go around the league and name all the struggling teams... are you calm or concerned?

33;10- What's going on in our lives that has nothing to do with sports?

Broadcast on:: 09 Oct 2024
Audio Format:: other

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How are you doing? You know, I know we had lunch a couple weeks ago, although you may need to pay for my own lunch this time, although a couple years ago, you pay for my lunch. Different times. And I'm paying for my own lunch now. Yeah, that was pre covid. I've lost like three of my five jobs. That's what he does now. Well, it's it's nickel dime here there and everywhere. It's it's all it's like, dude, open up the pocketbook. Shrews McDuck. Yeah, he said, let's let's go have some lunch. And then by the way, it's like $75 of the park, another, you know, 50 for lunch going back. I need an expense report just to hang out with this guy. That's why we'll do quarterly meetups, not monthly. Okay, once a quarter at that NFL salary, did you okay? We're going to make it work. Maybe zoom a couple times just to yeah, just to glow the expenses. Yeah, I got to I got you. I'd like to get into but I gave you a little homework assignment. Speaking of money for free, we did not pay him to do this for us. But we gave him a homework assignment to dive in on Washington's offensive line because will the perception is that they've been kicking butt and the numbers that I look at and care about things like ESPN's run block win right, win rate, past block win rate, PFF's grading, all very, very favorable. Some of them top five, some of them top 10 for the commanders to this point. So what are your eyeballs tell you when you watch them? Well, my first impression is when you gave me the list of the interior three, which I'm familiar with these guys, I also appreciate you spelling their names with the pronunciation attached to it, like Nick, Ela Greti, Tyler Biotis, Sam Cosby. So hopefully I didn't box that too much. Trust me. But you did it. But no, those guys are all big men. You know, they're six, four, six, five, three, 20. I think one time when I was training for the combine, I got up to three, 20 at my highest ever. But that was when I was juiced up on three, 18 and these are macaroni grill every day and just benching, just bench pressing and squatting. So I think I played it more than about three or five, three or six. These guys are all north of three, 10, if not three, 20 plus. And the things I noticed about the way they block, especially in this, in this scheme is just not as much outside zone like the Shanahan area. These guys are doing smash mouth down hill football, public gasking that powers its counters, its traps. Obviously, they mix in a little bit of the zone read. So their version of the zone game is just the simple sort of inside zone that's more of the vertical zone and then the quarterback and read it on the backside. But I completely agree with your analysis that these guys are moving other humans off the ball, you know, to the court, Russ Graham, they are men and they're moving another men against their will backwards. So if you can move the defensive line off a spot, a yard or two, that is huge in the NFL because most of the times you're getting a stalemate at best. But if you can move the line scrimmage back, a yard or two, and then you're running back, it's going to get three yards in the cloud of dust every time. If you make somebody miss, now you're looking at those gas runs of 10, 20, 30 plus yards. So we'll kind of two parter here and feel free to tell me I'm wrong at any point in time. So I've always felt sort of non QB runs out with standing. So you know, forget about kind of a zone read concept or something like that where the quarterback can take off. But in general, I've always felt like it's harder to run from the shotgun. Maybe it's maybe harder for the old line. So first part of the question is agree or disagree with that. And then if you agree with me, how have they overcome that to be so effective in terms of run blocking? Well, I will say when you're making a snap from the center position, it's a little bit harder to make an accurate snap and then, you know, fire off and block somebody because you almost have to slow yourself down, trying to make an accurate snap and then speed back up and pile drive somebody. Now, if you're a guard or a tackle, I don't think it really matters either or, you know, if you're definitely in a short yardage situation, kind of goal line fourth and one, you see the eagles with the policy during the first position, all of that the center can definitely fire off better with your under center. Now, if you're in the gun, you can still do it. Hopefully you're sort of on the 45 degree angle. So you can kind of get a plant step down and then drive into your man with the second step. It's a little bit harder to get this straight fire off with that first step in the shotgun. But these big boys, like I said, there's three 10, three, 20 plus six four to the six six plus and then they're out and they're doing a great job with it. I want to start at center and will Montgomery started at that position for Washington for years, joining us on Grant and Danny. I think Tyler Biotis has been fantastic, comes over from Dallas, kind of a mixed bag with what I was told about his performance with the Cowboys. But obviously, Dan Quinn liked him enough as a guy as a leader and as a player that he made him a priority and free agency to reunite with him here. He's at 185 dropbacks basically in past blocking and he is allowed one pressure and it was a hurry. He has not allowed a quarterback hit, a sack, anything like that. According to the PFF counting stats, when you watch him, what is he doing so well? He also hasn't been penalized yet, by the way, which seems like a big deal. Well, first thing I'll do is give you the analysis that my seven year old son and nine year old daughter gave me. We had the game on and they followed big number 63 up there. But wait a minute, dad, are you still playing? How are you still out there? I'm like, no, that's another big 63, that's an inch taller and about 10 pounds heavier. No, but I noticed that, you know, and another quick tip with center is half the time you're in double teams. So that's another good part about center, unless you're playing the team with the two zero nose with a guy stacked over your head. So if you can cross your fingers during a couple games and not have many one-on-one blocks, that's why, you know, the worst off you get, the closer to the ball that you get, so you're basically double team blocking the whole time. But no, I think, yeah, this is doing a great job. You know, you see him ID in the mic or the rail or the sand linebacker setting the schemes. You know, I see where he's pointing. So I think he's doing an excellent job. He's a big, thick guy. He reminds me of like those old school Steelers and Ravens aligned with his big bodies and their stout for the quarterback, which is great. So the pocket is firm in the middle. So there's room to step up. You know, your tackles are allowed then to ride the guys by. That's really your prototypical, you know, power, ISO, heavy duty. Oh, I'm the commanders have that right now. Long time NFL lineman, one Montgomery with this here on G and D. So I'll go to the right tackle spot here. Well, Andrew Wiley got beat up pretty good last year. She's really struggling at the start of the season. Actually played better this season. White, but nobody noticed because they weren't any good and they were losing a bunch of games and his rep from early on wasn't the best. That was a spot where a lot of fans, dummies like me included said, hey, they could probably do better there, but they're maybe kind of stuck with a contract to sort of see what happens. I feel like he's played well as part of this group. What are your eyes tell you about Andrew Wiley at right tackle? Well, I'll say one thing in general and I'll pick up my buddy Tyler Columbus over there. I know he's doing radio work for the Broncos. You know, we can, we were able to hide tighter Columbus and I say that love in Tyler a lot. But if you run the ball and you, you know, you execute play action and you stay ahead of the sticks. When I say that, you stay on schedule. It goes first down second and seven, third and one to two and you don't let those pass rushes tee off. There haven't really been a lot of obvious pass situations. The run game has been there. The checkdown game, the quick game, really, if you're an old lineman, especially a tackle, you're sweating about third and long. If you can avoid a lot of third and longs and obvious pass downs, you have yourself a good game. Cause you enjoy the run game. You enjoy the play action. You enjoy the boots. You enjoy the zone read. And if there are a couple pressures, you know, your quarterback's going to bail you out of a couple of those and turn a sack into a 60 yard explosive play. So really the best thing you can do for a tackle who you, who you may not think is an all pro tackle is run the ball and stay on track. You know what I'm amazed by will is they're doing this weird left tackle platoon time share thing that would seem to me like it could never work. I remember early on, maybe Shane Ann's first couple of games. We were all stunned because I think it was Derek Dockery was like the entrenched left over. And he split time with Lichten Stiger. I think it was in soon enough. Stigs took over as the starter. There was another time where Columbus, who you just mentioned, I think it was Columbus, digging back into my time on the beat now. So I might be confusing it. But like him and Jamal Brown started splitting. And it was because he was about to take over that starting job or whatever. And I bring this up to say, this is by design now weekend and week out that it's basically a 50 50 time share between Cornelius Lucas and Brandon Coleman, the rookie. And I haven't really asked. I want to get over there when I'm able to for the next press conference to say, like, what how do they do this? Is it series by series? Is it to then the other one gets to? And what is the idea here? But it is working really, really well. What do you make of it? Well, historically speaking, if the younger guy is getting reps, that's because they want him to win the job. Now, if the older guy is still getting reps, that means the younger guy hasn't quite beat him out yet. And then there's also a financial incentive that I remember when I first started getting reps, I think artists, Hicks took too much pre-workout Jack. So I got in back in their right guard during the Shanahan era. And even though I came into the league as a seventh rounder and bounced around to a different bunch of different teams, I knew I had did not have a short leash at all because under the bugle era and zone era, the previous season, I had been bent for sometimes average play. So when I was the guy that they didn't necessarily want, I actually played seven. I would I consider amazing games in a row, and they couldn't replace me. So if you are the younger guy or the underpaid guy or the late round draft pick guy, you kind of have to play better than your you have to outplay the other guy no matter what. Now, you're going to get more chances if you are a high draft pick guy or the coaches have an incentive for you to play to make them look good. So there's a little bit of politics involved, but at the end of the day, the best guy usually will play, but it's just a matter of how many opportunities you get from where you come from. But just to make it work. I mean, everything we always hear about the line is continuity and reps and unity and togetherness to be series by series having a different left tackle seems like it goes against that. Yeah. I mean, I think the biggest thing is your guard next view. So a big nick over there is able to make his double team calls because really, I want to say they're running a simple scheme, but essentially what they're doing is they're double teaming, they're down blocking or they're running their pen and pull play. And what I mean, the pen and pull play, you get your title and tackle blocking down and then maybe your guard and your center are pulling. So they basically have three different schemes. And based on those three schemes, it could be a simple game plan where you have a four down defense. So you're basically double teaming, down blocking or pulling. I mean, so it's kind of easy to make those calls. Now, it gets a little bit trickier in the past protection game when some of these exotic blips has happened or I remember watching the Eagles years ago when you had Evan Mathis and their last tackle, they used to sit on different levels. And when I say that, the guard may set tight to the line and the tackle may deep set. So there's things like that where in the third of the obvious past situation, you want to make sure that you're in sync with both guys either sitting on the line or both guys sitting vertically off the ball to make sure some of those twists don't come into play. So I think, yeah, it's more of an issue in the passion game. But they've been avoiding a lot of these obvious third and longs and playing catch up. We haven't seen the commanders down too often. That's really when you can kind of see the holes in any kind of communication in the old line play. Well, Montgomery with us here on Grant and Danny, breaking down the Washington football gentleman's offensive line after a long career. Well, I just sort of wondered in general here, like there, I'm sure it's like a trade-off, right? But good and bad, I'd love for you to go through it. What it's like blocking for a quarterback that's this mobile, right? On one hand, a statue back there, you know where he's going to be. But so does the defense. On the other hand, you know, when the target is for three steps and you're still blocking, you can kind of tell that the guy isn't throwing the ball yet. Like, what are the challenges they're in and what are the benefits of it or blocking for a guy that's his mobile is Jayden Daniels. Well, I definitely blocked for both types. And let me start with your questions. You know, the other way, when I was in Denver in 2014, blocking for a non-mobile quarterback named Peyton Manning, he got that ball out in two and a half seconds. We led the league in the least amount of sacks given up. But really it's because that ball was out in two and a half seconds every single time, no matter what. And even if instead of throwing it away, sometimes he would just fall to the ground and take a sack. So half of those sacks, he was just diving to the ground. On the other side, obviously with a mobile quarterback, he's going to save you a couple of times. I mean, in this past game, obviously he, you know, did his Houdini trick and got out of a couple of sacks and some of those turn into explosive plays. So the play will be extended. And then conversely, that might accidentally add on to a couple of sacks later on because if that ball is being held onto more than three and a half seconds or if the quarterback is setting back to like 10 plus yards, then those sacks are really on the quarterback. If he's hanging in there at seven yards and that ball is out within three seconds, then those sacks are usually on the O line. But also some of these blips that we're seeing, if you only have five or six blockers, including your back and the brain seven, then you are hot. I know there's that big play this past week where the defense brought an extra defender off the right side that should have been a sack or if those take nanny, he probably would have thrown it away or just dove to the ground. But our quarterback here, Jayden was able to get out of that somehow and make a 60 yard pass down the field. So I think really sometimes it helps. Sometimes it may add to the sack total. Sometimes I'll get out. So I just kind of depend. Will Montgomery with us on GND? What's something that you get annoyed by or that you see with a lot of even media members, but like people breaking down a play or maybe an analyst on a game blaming something you go, well, that's not quite right. Like, what is something fans media don't always understand about the O line? Well, a big thing, I think, is who to blame the sock on. Do they think media and even pro football focus? I spent a year with pro football focus also a couple years ago, but they don't understand past protection schemes. It's not just like you're playing Madden and you step back and you take most dangerous. You generally go to a specific person, whether it's the middle linebacker, the strong backer, the weak backer. Sometimes you're sliding out to the nickel will. There are some cases where you're sorting strong or you're sorting weak. There's other times when they're running back, check their assignment and then they leave. But sometimes they're running back regularly and their guys come. There's other times where the line sees that their guys are not coming. So they kind of try to come back and late to help out, but in actuality, that's not their guy. If they happen to get a sack, the line is bonus in that case. So even like somebody like me who I think I understand protection as well, I can't be 100% sure on who to assign some of these sacks to, but don't, but the media and even pro football focus at times will automatically give a sack to somebody who came inside their gap just because, Oh, why, why would you block it in there? Why wouldn't you block that stand back and blitzing in the D gap? Well, probably because it wasn't his assignment on that play. The cue is either supposed to throw hot or that's the back guy or some other circumstance with the case. Well, only a minute or two left here with you, buddy, give us something to kind of look for here going forward, just a couple of your keys to maybe sustain this thing or even get any better on the offensive line. What are some things that you're kind of going? I got this circle that I want to see how they do. Well, you know what I've encouraged by, especially with the offensive coordinator, Cliff Kingsbury is I'll see a play where there's a pulling part play. Like I mentioned, the pen and pull where your tackles and tight ends are blocking down and you get some pulling pulling parts outside. And in the very next play, he'll run that same concept but throw the pass off of it. So I love how he's protecting the run plays with the play action pass. Not so different than how my seventh and eighth grade flag football team is going. I'll set it up with a reverse or a double reverse. And then I'll hit the fake reverse, the fake sprinting around and hit him deep. So if I can trick the seven and eight year olds with flag football, it's basically Cliff Kingsbury. It's kind of stealing what I'm doing to my flag football team and doing it with the commanders. You run the ball, you run the runs, and then you make it look like that. You take the play action shot deep. And that's really a different way of kind of running the Shanahan offense. If you think about it, you know, I know there's like seven or eight head coaches in the league running that right now. The run, run, run, play action off the run. Cliff is doing it as well. But he's doing it in his own way where you have a mobile quarterback and a few more reads in there. Sometimes the quarterback, I've seen him pulled it a few times where he maybe he shouldn't have pulled it. But more times than that, when he pulled it, it's a good choice. And I love how Cliff is protecting the runs with the play action shots off of those runs. Will, do you do any consulting? I'm consulting right now with you guys. Okay, because my six year old his flag football team between me and coach Matt and coach Luke, our offense is guys don't remember where to line up and ever just kind of runs forward, even if they're getting the football on a reverse like, we can't get them lined up right. So if you can come out to a practice or two, that would help us. Well, when in doubt, just kind of kick him a little bit, kick him in the butt. And then, and I'll honestly, sometimes when I tell these seven and eight year olds what to do, and then one second later, they ask me, Oh, where do I go? Sometimes I'm like, I don't know. Like, I literally just forgot. And I told you two seconds. I'm telling five kids we're lined up. There's a center quarterback and we're in the 505 league. And yes, that sometimes can get a little bit dicey. Will great info man, love a good a breakdown on the online left to take inventory on how they're looking again here in a few weeks. Thanks for the time. We appreciate it. All right. Thank you guys. Everybody good. That's our buddy, Will Montgomery, former Red Skins offensive lineman in town on Grant and Danny. We do have caps tickets to give away today in 40 minutes ahead of the Beltway blitz to make sure you are listening. Let's go through some of the teams in the NFL next that are struggling a bit. Should we be calm or concerned for their chances to make the playoffs? That's next on the fan. Hey NFL fans, you can start the season with a big return on FanDuel America's number one sports book. So when you get a hunch in the middle of the game, you can check out the latest stats, view live play by play and so much more on the same page where you place your bets. You'll get started with $200 in bonus bets guaranteed when you place your first $5 bet. That's fanduel.com/sportsfan. 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This is still a team with a high ceiling. The track record is there. So you know what rule them out at your own peril but this McCaffrey it's in both legs now and it's worse than we thought kind of it just feels like one of those snowballs rolling they're banged up. They can't quite get right. Nothing is that easy for Rockford anymore. I still think they end up having a nice year but it's not what we're used to. So that's why I'm saying concern. They're they pretty much got a bid when 1213 games. I don't like that's the case this year. YouTube audience and Danny I want you to look at my hand. What's it doing? You're holding it about a foot and a half and be two feet above the table. It's flat. You could balance something on it. It's still it's not shaking. Not shaking. My hand never shakes. Billy Costigan style. Billy Costigan. The San Francisco 49ers are just fine. They're in a division where they are one game back of three in two Seattle who they play this week where they win at three and three. They will be in first place in the NFC West likely to start next season pending the Arizona result. The 49ers are fine. They are super banged up and they are a one point loss that they shouldn't have lost against the Cardinals away from still without a bunch of their best players on the offensive side of the ball for durations of this season. Now being at the top of the division, I know it's tough even with Seattle Kansas City coming up Dallas before the buy, but they will eventually get this thing turned around. Tough schedule. Look at their stretch run. Bears, Rams, dolphins, Cardinals in that stretch. I think they're going to be okay. This is a playoff team. I am calm on San Francisco. Call more concerned about their division rival, the team that actually got their only win against the LA Rams. They have a buy week this week and then they play the Las Vegas Raiders on the other side with hopefully Cooper Cup returning. I am concerned about the Rams. I know they'll get Cooper Cup back in week seven and they have one game left to play maybe without Cup before he comes back against possibly Minnesota, but they're not very good. They're one and four. They were so lucky to beat San Francisco. They lost to the Lions by six. They lost to the Cardinals by 31. Then they shocked the Niners with that miracle fourth quarter when we were in since watching in our nice suite at that beautiful hotel. What was that hotel? The hotel, Covington, the hotel Covington, Troy Aikman and Joe Buck, although not in their room, that would have been weird. The Bears, they lost pretty handily. The Packers now they've lost to their one and four. I think they beat the Raiders two and four and then they've got Vikings, Seahawks back to back. They're probably going to be two and five and I just think that's too big a hole. Yeah, concern, although they're they've got one blowout loss here. It's Arizona week two. They looked horrendous. Everything else has been a one score game that they've been in. That's as a really banged up group. The thing is, I don't think you get unbanged up. I don't think all of a sudden they'll just going to get healthy overnight. Cooper cups coming back. Yes, for now, it just feels like one of those against snowball rolling in the wrong direction type groups where they don't have enough talent in a lot of places and it's Matt Stafford and Sean McVeigh's genius kind of keeping them afloat. I don't think they have it this year. Call more concerned after two weeks they were once America's darlings since then they're over three and the loss they're starting quarterback, the New Orleans Saints there are two and three and they host Tampa Bay this weekend. Concerned. This is who I thought they were coming into the season. I their head coach was the guy I thought it was going to get fired early on, right? Dennis Allen, but now he thought Dennis Allen would be Robert Salah. Yeah, I thought he was going to be the first to be fired. That's the thing I would have bet on if I were to have wagered on that, but they came out scoring 45 a game through two weeks and that's a distant memory. Isn't it? I don't think they've scored 45 combined. Maybe they have over the last three weeks total. 49 total through three games. They have been a dramatically different team over the last three requesting violently to the mean. Now without Derek Carr, I just don't see it for them. There are two teams that are at a minimum that are better than them in the division. They play the box in the Broncos in the next 10 days, I think it is. Let me see here the second game to seven. Oh, sorry, eight days. They have two games in the next eight days. So I'm sure that's good. They will lose both of them without Derek Carr, at least one of them. But if that's the case, and you're talking about three and five, I am concerned the bucks are good. The Falcons have trended up in the NFC South New Orleans is in big, big trouble. Call more concerned about our division rival here in the NFC East, the Philadelphia Eagles, who are coming off their bi-week to host the lowly Cleveland Browns this weekend. I'm calm. They're a Sake 1 Barkley pitch and catch, a catch that he makes a hundred times out of a hundred that my six year old makes off 96 times out of a hundred. They dropped that pass, which will never happen again, away from being three and one and having beaten Atlanta or just a couple of normal tush pushes or play calls away from being three and one. Despite having a rash of injuries, they've got an easy schedule here coming up. Cleveland and the Giants, I think we're going to look up and Philadelphia is going to be seven and four trending in the right direction. They're not great. They're not a juggernaut by any stretch and imagination. But people dig in their grave and write in their epitaph too soon. So I'm going to say calm in that I think they are going to be a playoff caliber team when it's all set and done. But I feel about Philly today, what I have felt about them since the season began, which is their frauds a little bit. I just don't think they're that good. And I'm not going to think that until I see a lot more deposits. Danny mentioned in their favor that they could be three and one. And that's fine. I could also point out that they easily could have lost the Packers shoot out when Green Bay had a couple receivers slipping and falling that were wide open that would have scored touchdowns. They could have easily lost their win against New Orleans. Oh, by the way, 15 to 12 when two defenders ran into each other on a mesh concept to give Dallas Goddard 70 yards in the game winning drive. So sorry about your luck. I mean, they could be on four just as easily as they could be three and one. The Browns, they should beat the Browns are terrible. They play the Giants. I think that'll actually be a tight game. I think they lose to the Bengals. I think the Jaguars is tough, but eventually it's Cowboys, commanders, Ravens. There's enough stinkers in here that they'll be fine and they'll get to nine, maybe 10 wins, but I'm not worried about Philly. They don't scare me. They're just okay. But I'll say calm in that their whole season still ahead of them. Call more concerned about the team that was the first to fire their head coach this year and they have so many prime time games that nobody acts for. The Jets said two and three who hosts the bills on Monday night football this week. I'm going to go with concerned. Aaron Rodgers looks old. He does not look very good. He was awful against the Broncos. You want to blame that on bad weather? That's reasonable. He was just as bad against the Vikings. And I don't think there was that much bad weather in that London game. That's too straight now where he has not looked good in their offenses, stunk. They're only Wednesday near against the Tennessee Titans. We're going to pick in the top five and the Patriots are going to pick in the top five. Now, if they beat the bills tomorrow night, I will possibly sing a different tune. But I think they're going to be two and four going into a matchup with physical Pittsburgh. That's going to be a toss up type game with their season on the line. Their schedule down the stretch is softer than it looked like it was going to be dolphins, jags, rams, bills, dolphins. So if they could just get out of there by in week 13 with a shot, they might be okay. But I just don't like what I'm seeing from Rodgers and I think their offense is broken. They can't run the ball. Yeah, concern. Before the season, I thought they were going to win the AFC East. I thought this group has so much talent. All they needed was a healthy adult quarterback. I'm not even talking about Aaron Rodgers MVP of a couple of years ago, right? I just mean someone that's sentient, someone that's not Zach Wilson, literally ruining things or somebody else. And it's not just Aaron Rodgers. They just don't look right defensive. They're still very good, but they can't run block all of a sudden for some reason. Who knows what the causation or the reality is there. Their passing game looks clunky and every yard seems like a, you know, nuclear fusion project. It's really, really hard for them to do anything on offense. I don't think, you know, a defensive coordinator or defensive coach for another defensive coach. Fix any of that. Final one, calm or concerned about the team that led us here in the Grand Danny radio show program come up to their stadium and put our feet in it. The Cincinnati Bengals who are one in four and have a stretch of the Giants, the Browns, Philly and Las Vegas coming up in the next few weeks. Strangely, I'm calm at one in four. They dug themselves into a great big hole. I was there. I saw it, but Joe Burrow through for seven trillion yards leads the league and touchdown passes at this point. They're offense with Jamal Chase on one side. And if you try to stop him, T Higgins on the other, they're going to score points. They're going to win some games. Now preseason, people are going, this is a 12, 13 win team. They're not, but I think they end up in the post season despite their terrible start. I don't think they make the playoffs because I think their defense is awful. They've given up defensively for straight weeks now, 26, 38, 24 to Carolina and 41, 41 to Baltimore, 38 to Washington and 26 to the Chiefs and sandwiched in there was a get right offensive game for the Panthers for God's sake. Yeah, salt and a quarterback. What are we doing here, Harry? I think they beat the Giants. That gets them to two and four. Then they play the Browns that gets them to three and four. The Eagles game is kind of a season to find her because if you can get back to four and four Raiders after that, maybe you're five and four, you've won four straight and then you play the Ravens. You're back in the mix. You're back. Let's go have a season, but that's a lot of wins. I just strung together without any hiccups for a team that just can't stop anybody. So I will say that I am concerned based on their record. I still think they're best footballs ahead of them and I love that offense. And if you told me right now they made the playoffs, I guess it wouldn't shock me. But one in four is a massive, it's a big hole to dig out of. That's just tough. You know, if they're two and three, I'd probably go calm. That was fun. Thank you, dad. Granny on the fan. We're big fans of you, dad. Love you, dad. Double play is next. What's going on in our lives? Nothing to do with sports and at the top of the hour in 20 minutes, we got a pair of caps tickets for you for next Thursday night and a Beltway Blitz. [BLANK_AUDIO] Grant and Danny on the fan. We're taking you up to 630 this evening. Thanks for making the show part of your day week six. No. Yeah. Yeah. How's that already happening? No, week six in the NFL. The locals trying to get to five and one there in Baltimore. We will get you a preview of what the Ravens are looking like with their health coming up on the Beltway Blitz, headed the Battle of the Beltways. Just a few minutes out. That's at the top of the hour when we give away those caps tickets. Time for our double play driven by our local Washington area, Honda dealers. Stop in for a great deal in the rugged and capable Honda pilot. Contact your local Washington area, Honda dealers today. Plits to pick up hoops last night, cheaping our Tuesday night game back at it. A few different games. So you know, a lot of playing eight just to keep everything is everybody rolling and a couple subs and getting some water and dab our faces off with with towels and stuff. Full court. Full court. Four on four. We did force. Yeah, it's a it's an elementary school gym that we play in. So it's tough for five on five because literally if you're on the baseline, trying to shoot a three, your feet are out of bounds. Like if you try to shoot from deep, you are a foot and a half out of bounds. Is everyone in good enough shape to run the whole time? Yeah, this this group is a pretty good shape. I would say. Wow. Yeah, which is which is good. So, you know, that's what makes the games worth it for everybody is to be able to come out and run. I mean, you people like me, I have to walk every once in a while. If there's a little bit too much back and forth, but first game, I had to cover Jim. Now Jim's about six, three, and it's a bigger guy. He can move. And when Jim is hitting shots on the outside, which was what he was doing in that first game, I'm just getting punished. I mean, he kicked my butt GP that first game. Well, maybe maybe the strategy is trying to run Jim around on defense. You know what he did? He just blocked my shot a couple times. So I didn't, I didn't tire Jim out at all. Jim did just fine for a couple of games. That wasn't a whole lot of fun. Then as the day progressed, everyone got a little tired. I got lucky. I got really hot at the end of the game or the last game we played. We were down five nothing. I took it upon myself. I took that personally. Jordan with the iPad style end up four for five out of from three had a pull up jumper in there as well for a total of nine of our team's 11 points and close out game to go home. And you only tell us about your games when you do really well. I told you about the first one I got my ass kicked. I struggled a little bit early on. I'm just a great shape. No, I answered. I mean, I've just given you information. Like it's not important. I'm just telling you what happened, right? That I, you know, four to my five threes. If the nine points out of 11 last night didn't happen, are we doing this as our double play today? Possibly possibly not two games like the first who's to say that we played five games last night, maybe six. Actually, yes, I sat one. It was six. So, um, I wonder if anybody is, is keeping track and doing the stats and has like some chart they're doing, because you're kind enough to break down your games for us on the double play regularly. The, uh, the four on four pickup games that you take part in. You're kind enough to give us full analysis of that. So we find from a couple of weeks ago, you don't have to. No, no, it's a wizard Celtics game. Um, so I wonder if anyone's just keeping tabs on your season stats. Yeah, again, overall, the percentages aren't great. There's not a lot of great numbers in there, because there are games at a time where it's just, I couldn't throw it in the ocean. But the reason I bring all this up is one to brag with two is you just, I'm kidding. Come on. It's just to tell you that I got home on a high because the last game, you know, competitive, like one more. Let's all finish out strong and I was on fire and it was great. It had fun. It had played next to you and pickable. I know you get into it. I'm going to do it. I'm competitive. It's, I can't just run. I need to do and have something competitive. I wanted to tell my wife so badly about what I had done because she's doing me a favor. She's got the kids solo. That's the witching hour, picking up from practice, getting them fed, washing everybody where they need to be washed, teeth brush, getting to pajamas, seven fights, everyone yells 14 times, read a book, get your butt down, answer all the questions, get the water, retuck in, say I love you in good night, 50,000 times, right? As I'm getting home sweaty and useless. I just want to tell you about the game I just played. Let me just talk from the beginning. So start off with cover and crack and Craig is a real good athlete. He gets up and down real good, but then I got switched on the Jerry a couple of times and Jerry started covering me. So I was covering Jerry. Jerry, the other is he scored, but Jerry didn't score that much. So I'm going all whatever, right? So she stopped after about four seconds of me trying to explain what happened and put her hand up very gently and said, I'm really happy for you. I'm going to bed. And I realized that's great. I realized I'm so annoying. And that's my double play. I love that though. That was my self-realization that, oh my God, I'm annoying. Like she's at a point where she's comfortable enough just going, dude, good for you. And I am happy that you're happy. I'm happy for you. She is happy, by the way. She's glad that you had a good time. She doesn't need to hear about your good time. That's the summary. I'm happy for you. I'm going to bed. But you hit nine of those 11 points. I did in the last game. Were they like, oh, like Danny's hot, Danny's making shots. Oh, don't let Danny get going. Stuff like that. Couple guys. Yeah. Like a couple, I got a couple head shakes from the other team, which was nice. Brian, who was on my team, Brian's a real solid player. Nice guy. He was kind of like giggling. You know, they go, I got another one. That's so fun. I'm like, yeah, whatever. It's not a big deal. You know, just pretending that it wasn't a big deal, but it's a big deal, my heart. I'm happy for you too. Thank you, buddy. And I listen to you. But right now I'm telling you, I'm going to go to bed. It's time for my double play. I just want to remind everyone that I thought the Joker was terrible. I don't think we did enough on that. I was reading yesterday, basically, how it all went sideways. Supposedly, the Joker too came to Joaquin Phoenix when he was having a dream. Like the idea for the movie and the way they were going to do it and the character disposition and like where they picked up, it came to him supposedly in a dream. And he called Todd Phillips who just had like cart watch to do whatever he wanted. And Phillips was like, all right, let's do this. I'm like, no one checked in the entire time. And the more I've thought about it, I think you hit it out of the park when you said you can't do a musical without telling people you're doing a musical. I need to know when I buy the ticket, if I'm singing a musical or I'm not. You don't need to tell me everything about the movie. There's a couple things I'd like to know before I purchased the ticket. Am I getting myself into a musical or am I not? Because I need to get into musical mood. All right. Do I want to see a musical tonight? Do I not want to see a musical tonight? That movie stunk. And the further we get away from it, the more annoyed I am by it. My initial response was like, God, that wasn't that good. I really didn't like it, but whatever. It's hard. Someone will like it. I don't know how anyone's going to like it. If you just not that good. Here is just a quick introduction and a thought for me. And I want you to take on this as a movie guy. I applaud in general. I'm generally like, if you ask me on a binary one or zero, do you want people to be adventurous, make bold choices, not just make the same old formula thing, be original, right? The original Joker was that we've done Batman. But the original Joker was not good. Yes, it was all of those things. It was a passive. Would you agree with that? That was not a good movie. Well, I do think it wasn't a good movie. You do? Yes. I think it was overrated. I think everybody lost their minds. And I think everybody should probably should have calmed down a little bit. I thought it was fine. Yeah, I'm like fine plus. Okay. Yeah. But look, I think it was all those things. Well, fine. But also there is like a ceiling, I think with like the dark movie lane that I'm just not going to leave. When you leave feeling like you just saw something really heavy, it does kind of watered down the overall grade. But my point is whatever you thought of the first movie, this one's not that. But you see where I'm going, right? I want people to make bold choices. I don't want everyone just to play it safe. Let's make the same old formulae crap where Channing Tatum ends up with the lady. And the same superhero we've seen in like an easily relatable situation, maybe he loses his powers. We've done all the same formula stuff forever. Now we're remaking things that were okay. You know what I mean? We're in this phase. So I generally want people to be adventurous. But then when it sucks, I'm like, well, you just go back to what you know. Just don't make it a musical without telling anyone. You know what I mean? Like, have some checks in balance. We don't really have to just do the full dream that Joaquin Phoenix had that time. Yeah, that's enough for that. I don't know that we need to do that. Enough of that. Beltway Blitz. Next, we're giving away caps tickets on the fan 425. What and who isn't getting enough credit for the commander's four and one start will dive into that on Grant and Danny. Hey NFL fans, you can start the season with a big return on FanDuel America's number one sports book. 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