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Ep. 915. Important Information in Conjunction with Borei Nefashot and Other Mistakes.
Important Information in Conjunction with Borei Nefashot and Other Mistakes.
Welcome everybody to Chinaman 915, getting back to our hilhas brochos, okay we are trying to finish off some enraged test mistakes in brochos, the after brochos. I just want to talk a minute about last year we talked about we spoke about the burn of fashos and if somebody mixed up we said la fida michibura it was no good according to how much it was good but there's one thing I just wanted to mention with something we spoke about when we learned burn of fashos it's important to keep in mind that if somebody has a suffix somebody has a suffix, right? In other words the bottom line is not to walk away from the table with no after broch of somebody has a suffix so he brings down to the safe right to our locus in what we quoted last week, last year and he's above, sim and rage Zion actually, sim and rage Zion is the sim and that talks about burn of fashos, he's above, he says that he brings it to us, so let's say somebody had apple pie, right? and cherry pie whatever the case is and they don't know if they ate so we said we said to make a la michibura right I eat some sort of a pie it's just an example it could be with anything, I have to make sure that I ate gazias of the zonos pot, gazias of the dough pot right under a four-minute period otherwise it's not gonna otherwise I have to make a burn of fashos right because it's assuming that I ate the apples and apples with the crust and everything together so I ate gazias under a four-minute period together but the question is did I eat did I eat a gazias of the dough pot so if I ate a gazias of the dough pot so fine so then it's a la michib but if um so if I didn't so then we ate we need a burn of fashos in other words you don't walk away from the table with nothing, but now let's say let's say I'm a supic I don't know right so we said let's share okay what about if it was a vardai I ate a good piece of cake right then I have to make all the michibs and may burn the fashos instead so that was weird where we had the whole question but now let's say somebody is a supic what today say in other words in other words I eat this apple pie and I'm not sure the good I know I make all the michib I ate enough of the dough right I ate under four-minute period because I the size of the dough but I don't know I didn't keep track I was I didn't keep track how much I ate which I do but but did I eat it because I is of the apples with the with the with the crust with everything together because I is of that under four-minute period yeah that I did but I don't know if I had enough of the dough or the dough is thin let's say thinner and it's I don't know if I had enough I don't know if I ate enough I don't know but I didn't keep track at a time be it as it may bottom line is but the michibs are one should make a least a burn of fashos in that case so that's what he says yeah again in the region similar which is I he says that yes only the whole chai I mean he's quoting from the shell she was different you know all this it was the dyke from the Elio Raba that's she ain't can cash Ash brochol of a toilet is not a brochol of a toilet cave on chai if it's you'll say well maybe it's a brochol of a toilet maybe I don't have to make a burn of fashos no cave in chai beloved hock in the burning of fashos at least that much you have to make for sure right do it because our local could different whatever he says so so he says we use the whole chai the body the very point of fashos a regular cuz I say eight of the whole thing with with the cake and then and apples again which is giving an example it can be with anything I can be with any type of a mixture but but be it as a may so so I ate the whole chai the body with the very important fashos um congratulations all cuz I is meet me no worship or hustle burn of fashos hi governor coolie I'm a murdered after the lifter is fake cuz I because I burn of fashos right so the bottom line is that's what he says if if you if you ever have a sofic did I eat it now today now in other words you don't say well I don't know if I have to make a burn of fashos because I don't know maybe it's really all amirja so I can make all amirja because that's the sofic brochol of hockol I don't know if I ate enough I'll make nothing no you can make nothing you can make nothing so you make at least so that's what he says to make at least coolie I'm a moe moe moe the f she lifter as fake cuz I in such a case whereby somebody has such a suffix to make a least a burn of fashos in those instances the same thing with somebody's drinking like we spoke about last time wine right you're saying it's partial wine partial water it's mixed and mixed I don't know if I drank enough excuse me I don't know if I drank enough for a for a a logef and I'm not sure um because it's watered down maybe I did drink enough I didn't so be it but but but I drank I drank enough under a four-minute period I drank enough in two sips or whatever it is and it reveals right in the right amount of time of the whole thing so at least a burn of fashos at least that much one could make and to the extent that we saw a remote we live we read last year from remote remote from the chuva want to save somebody to do it how far he goes that even somebody doesn't have a sitter I don't I don't know it by heart my alamik and I don't have a sitter and I just good I'll walk away and I can't make alamik I don't know it I know I thought I had a sitter I didn't have whatever a person should not eat on that side you know to say well I'll make a burn version that's it but but they should definitely not do that but if they got stuck that that's what we'll say that's where much is that somebody got stuck at least burn of fashos at least that much there those who would say it says very much at least that much just to make a burn of fashos not in other words point it's not to walk away from the table with no f de bracha at all so that's important thing I just wanted to talk out to keep in mind okay I just want to finish off because I want to hopefully next shared position we'll start with the back to the halokas of a main so with the same price of luck is back to our sim and rich test finishes off tol be rock in Islam a gimbal main gimbal the market burn of fashos let's say you flip it the other way right if you make a burn of fashos instead of alamikya so we spoke last year what about if I make an alamik a set of burn of fashos loyoz and now they that's not gonna help you where's the guy drank a coffee I'll make it's not gonna help me right so we said that's not going to help told bear a main gimbal the market burn of fashos is loyoz right so so I bought a limb came bear al-ho 8 unless unless somebody made the brochas main sholish they made al-ho 8 on fruits from a tree so then we spoke about that would be okay oh yeah filo pareza arret is yotza avel al-shar de verm is loy yotza so we went into that a little bit previously okay so we went a little bit into that in previous year I don't want to get into that too much if somebody um somebody let's say apples we spoke about and they put it into the you're supposed to make a burn of fashos but if you make a burn for your aids we'll cover both now that's just real quickly to read from the Mahabharash kes we spoke about them all called parents mischievous aminim somebody's eating fruit from mischievous aminim brochalta pukam and they also ate apples ain't circle of earth a lot of pukam you don't have to make then a burn of fashos separately shagam haim biklabir salawait that's part of the all the way shagam haim preuades preheim baht baht avel im al-ho kalta pukam if you ate apples vashosa yayin and you drank wine and then it won't help you so in other words the circle of earth burn of fashos then you have to make a burn of fashos a lot of pukam on the on the apples it's a separate thing but again if somebody mixed up there's various ways of looking at it we're not going to get into all there right now and one less thing which we spoke which we've been talking about how we started the whole thing of the mistakes is if somebody made a brochas main shalash obviously you have to say the correct thing we said in general if you said the wrong thing you would not be out there in general just work real quickly to finish off with the old safer as a law conspiracy main gimbal in islam the dahlid the top the hiskyo bah min shalay al-hul and you said the wrong thing could go in in uh al-hamasar is you ate cake for his karala gefen and you you you said al-hagefen you made a brochas al-hagefen leyotas not going to leyotas not going to help you that that's no good okay you have to say it again we've spoke about if you catch yourself right so we went through all that but if you said it then he said al-hagefen and he cake it's not going to help you al-imkain al-hul anavana unless you ate grapes for his karala gefen if you ate grapes and you made a al-hagefen on wine or al-hul tamarim or you ate dates we spoke about right um if you're his karala mikha and you made al-hamikha or al-hah eight or you made a al-hah eight or you just say yai and or you drank wine but his karala waits so those cases but the evid would be okay um yeah so that that's what we spoke about in those cases would be okay again but the evid again the the somebody ate grapes and they made a al-hagefen again they forgot or they ate tamarim the his karala mikha right because we said in my benching that would help or yalawait or they made an al-hul eight because you know be it as a maid it's a date is it's a fruit right or shall say yai in or they drank wine but his karala waits also so those cases again be the evid would be fine so that that's basically the end of the story again just ending off like he said like we mentioned the way back in the beginning so he finishes off the same for al-hul Akhas like we said we're all lenient shi-ta every time all these various cases we spoke about if somebody made these mistakes al-hul-pichibadi evid is he also even though we have to effect the cases whereby we said one is yoi-ta if to the fact the brokhana beriak by finomel he still make sure one should make sure to it has much as possible if they're able to to fix it with taqa-de-dibor and and the various different ways we spoke about thank you for listening us lacham brokhak al-duf