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Hurricane Recovery - Dr Bill Williams - Marine Jonathan McConnell from Meridian Global Consulting talking about Iran attack coming - Violence Abroad - Midday Mobile - Thursday 10-10-24
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I do know this that, so been set down the studio and opened up the Twitter feed here, which is at FM Talk 106-5 on Twitter or X and I guess I've been searching last night on that. I've been searching news from Hurricane Milton and so it's going to, the algorithm is going to feed you. So I've actually saw this last night, but the first thing it feeds to me with all, and I was pointing out, we've got some crazy pictures on our Facebook page, a damage in the aftermath of deadly Hurricane Milton, interesting that it's what we have heard so far with the deaths that came from the other coast, the east coast over St. Lucie, with those tornadoes, so many tornadoes being spun off of Milton. But the first picture I get on my feed is this guy saw him last night. Maybe if you all are on social media, you've seen him, the Florida crackhead. Now, is this, did this actually come from the oncoming Milton? Was it an old pig? Either way, I've got questions here and I don't know how, I'm thankful, I don't know how a crack pipe works, but I'm interested if that thing he's got, if you all have seen this picture, is that a lighter? Because if there's a, if there's a lighter, and I've had, I've good camping lighters and in my emergency kit, ones that'll work wet and all that stuff, but the winds look like they're blowing. I don't know, in this picture, 50 miles an hour or so, and the Florida man is smoking crack outside his house there, because you wouldn't want smoke, I mean, if you're going to smoke crack going out to the front porch, he's standing outside, I mean, it's blowing him along the front yard there as the winds are intense enough. But the lighter can still light the crack from this. So I really, if anybody knows anything, can you detect, is that a lighter? It looks like some, I don't know what that thing is. But I want it, not the crack pipe, but the lighter that will work in 50 or 60 mile per hour winds, and, and you can see that picture, maybe we'll just, I'm going to retweet this. So if you follow us at FM Talk 106 5 on X or Twitter, if not, you can go and do that. So you can see this, you can help me understand what's going on here as this guy is smoking crack outs and very Florida thing to do. Uncoming storm, he hasn't evacuated, but he's going to smoke some crack. I guess that goes together, right? The person that doesn't evacuate if they're close to the storm would be the person I would think would might be a candidate for smoking crack, but that's on there. Check that out. All right. And coming up in just a little bit, was it a pretty interesting story in international news? And I know there's been some discussion on the previous two shows about what's going on with Israel and Iran, they're calling it, is it, is it an earthquake or do the Iranians do something else? Because there's been a report of an earthquake in Iran. Some people out there say, maybe not an earthquake, maybe a nuclear test by Iran, and we'll show a force. We'll talk about that. And more of what's going on in that region when my buddy Jonathan McConnell from Meridian U.S. joins us about 1230, also Dale Lee from Land Yap coming up today. So that's all on the way for the show. I thank you, Firedog. So Firedog texted this in at the end of yesterday's show. If you missed it, we were talking to Spanish Fort Mayor Mike McMillan about the work to be done on the causeway because the causeway is going to take a lot more traffic when people start avoiding the toll on the one day to be completed, maybe attend mobile river bridge project, plus if there's an accident on the bayway, all the traffic there is on the causeway, and some of the things with the Al Dot that they're going to do to try to make it work better going across the causeway. And then I think as Marty had texted in, I think he wanted his ashes. He was asking if his ashes could be spread on the causeway. He would rather have them there than the bayway, he'd rather always take the causeway. And then I went a step further from Marty, I said, before we just spread your ashes on the causeway, why don't we build a funeral pyre there alongside the causeway and put you on it and burn you right there in the funeral pyre for people to enjoy as you're going down the road, you know, if you're picking your own funeral, then Firedog got this text in a little too late as we closed out the show. And I was so impressed by the text, I said, yeah, we will hold this over for tomorrow. And we have, he said, his idea for a funeral procession on the causeway, this is beautiful. So I had talked about Marty should be the funeral pyre fire dog said, he wants his funeral procession to be in a 22 foot tall truck that goes to the bank head tunnel. There you go. It instead of burning you on a pyre, would we fire dog? I think we would have you in the area that then impacts the front of the bank head tunnel. So the funeral procession will be go through and you would be in the, and then boom, you would go right. And then there'd be a piece of you or pieces of you in the bank head forever. So when family members love one tried by the case, look, that's, there's a little bit of fire dog right there in the, in the over, in the overhang for the bank head tunnel. So there you go. Fire dog. Yes. That was a beautiful thing yesterday. So I appreciate that. All right. All right. Sorry coming in here, the huge tornadoes. Yes. Yeah. Dan, that was incredible to see the size of those tornadoes hitting. And I think, you know, we're seeing a lot of pictures now and video coming out of Florida and the impact area. I definitely have seen more things that look like, do not know, but look like tornado damage than just straight line winds and it really rocks and people in Florida from, you know, were away from the coast with that interesting thing too. I saw a, like a heat map they do for power outages and it's looking at some of my, I've told you, I got friends there, uh, friends in Tampa, uh, don't have power, but buddy lives in Orlando, which was part of the track as Milton crossed Florida. He said, yeah, man, we never lost power. We never lost internet. So they were doing good there, but I looked at this, it's, you know, they have, they'll show you a, a heat map of a state or a country or whatever, show you more of this more of that. And so if you look at this and it shows, shows Florida and you can see by the colors on this map, how, how many customers of whatever is Florida power and light or whatever other utility is there are out of power. So it makes sense. You look at somewhere like Sarasota County right there where landfall was 75% of the customers are out of power. You go up to Tampa, 72% all right. So this is the front line of this makes sense. You go inland east to Hardy County, which is inland from Sarasota 98% of their customers are out of power. Okay. Uh, then as you track the way the storm crossed Florida, you would think maybe be inaccurate. You would think there would be less impact, you know, on power, but as you go further, you've got places like the Orlando area, hardly affected 14% of their people out of power. You go further east to Volusia County, it's like 50%. And then you go up to Flagler County on the coast on the east coast, north there 68% out of power. So it is interesting. I don't know if it's a study of maybe tornadoes in those areas because the storm has less strength as it crosses the landmass, or is it one of different utilities and different grids? And it got me thinking, so I guess I was going to show out of Huntsville today and I was talking about this on that show. Do we rethink in Florida and other places how we do power grids? Now, I saw this has been years ago in Puerto Rico and I forget, I know there's coast guard members here that probably worked down there, can remind me what hurricane it was, absolutely ravaged Puerto Rico and their power infrastructure. They went back in and they, instead of making the grid more connected, they balkanized it, they made it less connected. Now, I don't know how the implementation has been going forward, but the idea made a lot of sense to me, instead of having a grid that's so connected that a tree falls a mile from you or a transformer blows a mile from you, then you're out of power, they made the grid smaller and nodes that were independent of the grid over there, there, there. So instead of like everything in the world now is tied all together, but I'm seeing a change going the other way too, I see it at food, as people look for more local ways to produce food, internet, look what Elon Musk is doing with Starlink, right, instead of being part of a bigger grid, it's independent, it's localized, the same thing here on the power side in Puerto Rico, and it was really interesting, and we might dig into this and see how they fared with it, but this idea was that they would take the power grid and separate it from all its pieces. So you could affect one part, maybe have a power outage there, it doesn't affect everybody. Just interesting stuff got me thinking about it in the aftermath of the hurricane, Hurricane Doulton, and of course the next thing we'll hear, if we hadn't already heard it, when they get done with like saving human beings, which is number one, then when it comes to property that was damaged, how long until you think the insurance companies are going to start screaming about not being able to ensure people in Florida? Don't think it's going to take long. Be right back, go on this, we could talk about steering hurricanes and a whole lot more. This is mid-day mobile with Sean Sullivan on FMTalk 1065. By 1222 FMTalk 1065, mid-day mobile on this Friday eve, glad to have you along. Also speaking of the aftermath of Doulton, you've got the real stories there as people are just beginning to stand up and think about the recovery effort there in Florida. On top of that though, to challenge them, you know, you can't have a hurricane without a follow-up alligator story. It's formulaic, like you hurricanes, and then the national media, so this is from Daily Mail, they've got some pictures of an alligator biting a tire on a vehicle, but the headline here. This is just, I'm not a headline writer by trade, but it says alligators are stalking homes in floodwater after catastrophic hurricane built in barrel through Florida. Now, are they stalking the homes? Is it they're trying to bite a 3-2 ranch house somewhere in, you know, Dunnellion, Florida or something? Or what are they trying to do? But yes, of course, you've got to have, if you have a hurricane, you have got to have alligators on the land story and like I point out, you flood a bunch of stuff and land critters go to find dry land. You flood a bunch of stuff, the critters that live in the water, obviously alligators can live, you know, walk and run all the land, but it's an easier thing to do to just swim. They're all moving around. The critters are moving around finding, you know, looking for real estate options out there. So yes, but in the headlines, they are stalking homes in Florida. All right. Thank you, Jayce. That probably was Maria. He's at Maria in 2017 that Thrope punched the entire island. It's just, it's an older story. And I just think it's interesting. And I don't know if this will happen in Florida, but after Maria, Puerto Rico gets ravaged with their power grid and they, somebody actually had a novel idea there how it was implemented. I don't know. It's Puerto Rico. But instead of further connecting the grid, they said, what if we disconnected it? What if we made smaller footprints for this grid and for power? So if somebody a mile away has something happen, you lose a transformer, how the tree comes down on the line, those people right there are affected, but the people further down the line aren't. And I think it's pretty interesting. I don't know if they'll try. I mean, it's going to be, you're going to have to have a seed change moment to do something like that. So I, and I don't know if places in Tennessee and Western North Carolina, we have that moment to look at how we do the power grid and do you separate it out. But yeah, so this is, so thank you, Jason, for that. Firedog says my sister in Dade City, Florida, about 30 miles northeast of Tampa has no power, but her house is undamaged. It is interesting to look at where on that heat map there are places, and I wonder if it's different utilities or different infrastructure because you'd expect and it is like in Sarasota and Hillsborough County right there where they took the brunt of Milton 75, 85% of people out of power. But then you look at some places that are further east where you would think you would have less damage. They're higher than places on the coast. And then there's places like around Orlando, Orange County that have like only 14% out and then you go further to the coast like Volusia County and then they have 70% out. So I just, I don't know what to make of it. It just stood out to me. Tim says, a lot of companies, especially the bigger ones are connected by their transmission lines, but they are sexualized by meaning they have switches here that can be automatically opened up so everybody's electricity doesn't go out. This is, that's a good thing. But what about even further disconnecting it? And I know, you know, we're in this world interconnected, right? It's the internet and everything. But at the same time, look no further than the idea of Starlink, right? And what Elon's done, grid, grid don't matter, man. You know, you can crank up the Honda generator there and hook up the Starlink. If you're in the mountains of Western North Carolina, and guess what, you've got internet. That is where I think if we could take that kind of mentality when it comes to power, we might be better off dealing with this stuff long term. Newhall man said power poles are being phased out for underground utilities, less susceptible to tropical and traumatic weather, also less power poles are safer for people driving around looking at their phones. Thanks for the work y'all do. That is true. You, Hallman, I am, I've been in a year long, it's been a year that Alabama power supposedly. We signed the contract or signed the okay easement thing. They're supposed to be removing the power pole. So I live back in the woods and go down dirt road to another dirt road. And there's, I may or may not have counted the power poles because there's a chance I could get them once they remove them. But there's a lot of power poles on the way. And they came to us and said, Hey, we want to do underground power there. And so where the plan is to run underground power from airport Boulevard, the whole way back to where I live back in the sticks. So that's interesting. So I'm one of those people at the same time I had a rental house in country club village there. And two, three years ago, they did the same thing there, a lot of trees in that neighborhood lot of trees. And I guess they were tired of fixing lines when they came in. So underground is great too. But if you could underground, and then if you have to come up at a point, if you could grid that off and separate it, I think a trophy makes, you know, makes up makes it easier on the power company long term, but makes it better for people out there. Yeah, so Jim say, yeah, the power system has set up with circuits. I get that, but they have, they have further separated. This thing in Puerto Rico, I will, I will pull up this old story. And maybe on tomorrow's show, if not early next week, and we'll go through it, the way they were doing it was very interesting to me. It was some novel thinking, which gets me to pay attention. And I do wonder if we do more of that somehow instead of everything being connected part of a grid, we can actually start separating from grids out there. All right. Coming up in just a couple of minutes, my buddy Jonathan McConnell from Meridian US is going to join us. Two questions, I'm going to pose to him, I'm sure he's excited about this, is the story that came out, I guess over the weekend. So, okay, there was an earthquake registered in Iran. Okay. So it's 10 45 p.m. on Saturday, the University of Tehran's, and they, their team this year is fantastic. I mean, the new coach rebuilding, they've lost a couple of games, but they're really turning that program around. Virginia Tehran's seismography center announced a 4.4 magnitude earthquake had shaken the city of Airdan in Iran's Seminen province, I was probably butchering that, with tremors also felt as far as parts of eastern Tehran. The epicenter of the earthquake, which occurred 12 kilometers, all right, any metric people can convert that for me, I should know that, I've learned that and I've forgotten that 12 kilometers below ground were recorded and it gives the lat long. Hours after the news broke, social media users, well, there you go, began speculating that the Tehran regime had attempted to conduct its first underground nuclear test, presumably as a deterrent measure against Israeli attacks on its territory. So did they test it, or did they just have a little plate tectonic shakeup? Well, that's one of the many questions I will level and jump in the cuddle, he's on the way next. We'll talk one of six five midday mobile glad to have y'all here on this Thursday and let's check in with our staff meteorologist and tropical weather expert, Dr. Bill Williams. Dr. Bill Milton, or what was called, is it still called Milton and where is it? It's still Milton and it's headed east and picking up speeds out into the Atlantic now. So it's up to 20 miles per hour, which is pretty brisk for the forward motion of the storm, but it's moving away from the US mainland, it's east of Cape Canaveral and of course last night it tracked right across the heart of the peninsula and left the east coast and the Cape Canaveral area. At the moment, its highest winds are 80 miles an hour, but it's just going to continue to move east and it looks like it'll bypass Bermuda as a tropical storm and then they eventually just fade out in the North Atlantic. But the impact of that storm, of course, is being felt over a large area and they're still kind of looking at the damage and getting an idea of how extensive it was. It came in, the storm came in at around Sarasota where the winds were 120 sustained and higher gusts and we really don't know a lot about the damage there since people weren't allowed to go out and take a look at it, but they will be today and have a better idea. One of the big stories, Sean, has been the tornadoes. There were 126 warnings issued for tornadoes and they formed mainly to the east and to the south of the, of the center of the storm and what we call the feeder bands of moisture circulating into the system and so there were numerous tornadoes, a lot of damage came from those. The rain, another problem, particularly just to the north of the center of the storm, whether actually it was a weather front and all of that help to produce some rather large rainfall totals. St. Petersburg came in with over 18 inches of rain and it was not far from that in Tampa and Tampa got quite a bit of flooding and flooding occurred in other areas where that rainfall was double digits. The storm surge, don't know exactly how high it was in the Sarasota area, hopefully we'll find out. It was not as high in Tampa Bay mainly because the center of the storm came in just south of Tampa and therefore for a long period of time they had offshore flow and that lowered the water in Tampa Bay so the damage they had was basically from wind and of course heavy rain in that urban area and so there's a lot we need to know and we'll find out about the damage and which help us also figure out some of the things about the storm itself. Yeah, it looks like I guess we'll still get the pictures in from storm surge and all that but the ones that I've been seeing like you mentioned, tornadoes, so many tornadoes and deadly out there as well. Even place, I mean look at the other, I mean east coast, like you said, to the south and east of the storm, not even where the storm made landfall. Yeah. Well, you know, one of the saving things for everybody was the wind shearing that took place because as that storm gained latitude, gets farther farther north and this is going to happen with most storms, the farther north they go, the better the chance they will start to be affected by the westerly winds across North America and those upper air winds will guide the storm along but if they become too strong, then they start to tear it apart and of course we obviously hope that it will tear it apart but those upper air winds were encountered as it started to approach the central portion of the peninsula and it dropped those winds down quite a bit to where they were 120 as opposed to much, well, 24 or 36 hours earlier, they were up to an incredible 180 miles an hour to sustain winds that rose down near Yucatan. That would have been an entirely different story and we looked at 150, 160 miles per hour winds. We appreciate you keeping us ahead of the storm the whole way through and in the aftermath of it now and we will check back with you because if people didn't realize it we still got a little bit of time in hurricane season, it didn't over yet. That's right, exactly, we have the rest of October and we have had some storms around in November. All right, that's for sure, Dr. Bill, we appreciate it, we'll talk soon. Okay, Sean. All right, there's our staff meteorologist and tropical weather expert, Dr. Bill Williams on Hurricane Milton, although I could ask this guy, I mean because he's read in a lot of things, but mostly what I deal with, a Marine and a business owner of Meridian US and by Buddy John McConnell, we talk about international politics, reality, and warfare. Good to have you back on the show. Always going to be here, Sean. Okay, so we have not on air had a chance to talk since the last time we talked, I said, "Hey, man, do you think Iran's going to respond to this Israeli, the assassinations and all that?" Because remember the news cycle was any day now, right now, and you were one, Jonathan said, "Yeah, they'll probably sit on this for a while," and they did, they sat on it for quite a while here before they launched their latest missile salvos. I was surprised, well, I'll say this, Israel and Netanyahu have finally taken the platform that they've gotten and, I mean, they're playing chess, everyone else is playing checkers. I mean, when they did the walkie-talkie pager thing where they blew those up, so they took away their communication capabilities because that's how Hezbollah was communicating in Lebanon and basically they would, that's how they communicated because it was, I guess, a different band or frequency from cell phones, so it was a little bit not easy to track. And so Israel figures this out, buys a company and sells these pagers to them with these explosives in it, and then one day it just hits them all. So then you hit the pagers, then you hit the walkie-talkies, and then it's like, well, we've knocked out all of our communication, and now we've got to go to a meeting and they go to the meeting and they blow the building up. Yeah. I mean, like, that is just brilliant. I mean, so in your world, as a civilian, I sat here slacking John, texting you and going, did you see that? You know, and then in your world, I mean, they won, if there was the annual Intelligence Operation Awards, they won every category, especially since they hit the guy, shoot, it was the Hamas leader in Iran. In the secure compound, Israel plays a long game, man, because I don't know how long that ammunition was set in that compound, they didn't just walk in there doing so at least have been months, and then like you talk about, to get the company to provide the pagers and the two ways, you know, the walkie-talkies and all this, and don't you know, there had to be, to make it seem real, there had to be negotiations, and I don't know if I can get you all those by the 15th, and you know, like all that kind of normal stuff to get the buy-in, right? If I'm the inside agent, I try to put it on the layaway too. Yeah. I mean, can you imagine, like that's the story I would love to know too, is the Mossad agent or agents that ran that company, did they, to stay believable? Did they not agree with everything like that? I can't get them to you right now, but I tell you what, you know, I can discount these, but I can't discount those. I wonder if that kind of- It's really a good pink bottle, you know. Yes. I'll say this, I sort of wanted, I wanted to wear a pager around for a while if I could have found one, just for giggles, it'd have been a lot of fun, but no, I mean, I think Israel's done a, I mean, yeah, the Mossad has definitely gotten the Intelligence Agency of the Year Award, I think, which, but, I mean, the funny thing is they're like, "Ah, you know, some things happen." Yeah, yes. The way they play it off is hilarious. Of course, yeah. The other thing I want to see is what it was like back at headquarters, what had happened. I mean, where they're, they'd run down the halls, go, "Yeah, like something football gamers are like, "You did it, man, patting them all about whoever came up with the idea." So that part of it is brilliant and is acute, is not hand-fisted. Iran, hand-fisted, here come, you know, here come the missiles and at the same time you have Hezbollah shooting rockets right across the line. Now, that's the one that would worry me and I want your opinion on it because we, there is time to track when you launch from Iran incoming for Iron Dome to work, but something can get pretty, I know Israelis have moved into Lebanon and given a secure zone. I think that's probably so you can't get, so the rocket has a signature because right if you're right across the border and I'm firing, I don't, there's no Iron Dome that can hit that, right? Well, the point of origin is it went in, it's right there on the southern side of Lebanon, just what, north of the Golden Heights, then at that point, I mean, your response time is so quick. So you can, I mean, you can do mortars, but yeah, that's why a lot of the Israelis have moved down away from the border and, you know, away from areas that are not safe. Yeah, the longer that that projectile, missile rocket, whatever, is in the air, the better that something like Iron Dome gets to work. That's right. Yeah, you know, in, I think with Israel invading, not invading, they did a ground incursion in taking away the safe spots. I mean, I can't imagine what kind of yield they got from getting the weapons caches that are down along the border where all the rockets are being fired from. So, you know, are we about to start another World War? It would actually be very interesting because especially with, it seems like the rest of the world is not, I mean, how far like France, Macron has come like, like denouncing and like holding up arms sales to Israel and I mean like that, I'm like. At the same time, this is the same French president that wants to put French troops in Ukraine. Yeah. He is it. Yeah. Well, because he's more. Yeah. Because he's, first time we've had a war in Europe in, you know, since World War II. So it's in the French have to try to do some makeup work from the, from the last one. That's, you know, why are the streets in Paris lined with trees? Here we go. So the Germans can walk in the shade. So as you mentioned this outbreak of World War III or wider regional war, you've heard my lament and I worry, you know, so many of y'all that are veterans or active duty folks I worry about because we move more and more Americans into theater, more and more material. Got two carrier strike groups, right? I mean, we just keep it seems to me that it's almost putting it so close that it can't help but something hitting an American asset to give us a reason to come in there. I'm, I'm, stand with Israel supporting their right to defend themselves. You're the warrior here. I'm the civilian. Don't want another one. I don't think it's worth Americans going over there to do a job that the Israeli boys can do for themselves and girls can do for themselves. I think, I mean, Israel is, is, is handling it quite well right now. I mean, if honestly, if we could entice them to take out the nuclear capabilities of Iran, like that would win the day for me because at that point, we're completely not involved with what we are involved in the war, but it's not American sons and daughters who are sacrificing the lives of that. So I agree totally. You know, is Israel going to do that with as bold as they've been in the last month? Maybe. I don't know if they can. You know, can they go six kilometers down or, hey, maybe Masada is the one who did the earthquake, you know, and that's my question, right? So it could be. I mean, it is a, you know, I know that this doesn't work on Twitter or on Facebook because they push back past anything they don't like, there is a seismic zone there. There is some probability that earthquake could have happened there. But there's some probability that they could have been doing an underground detonation. Yeah. They've had their, they've had their centrifuges and everything else deep underground. Hence, we had to use, well, you all probably forgot about that 10, 15 plus years ago, the Stuxnet virus that somehow got in, you know, and I love that one. That was a great one. Yeah. It was, that's some fantastic. I said them back years. Yeah. I don't know, but is this, do you think an earthquake, if it's not, did Israel do something there to make something detonate or did the Iranians detonate it to say we got it? You know, I think that the biggest threat is like, how many, how many minds does it take to make a minefield? I don't know. None. None. Just the sign. Yeah. If you have a mindful something, I think that the, I think that it, I don't think it would be Iran testing their nuclear capability, because if they did, I mean, in showing it off, like, they could just already say they have it. It also immediately puts them into the sanction category back in sanctions. You know, so I guess they're going to give back $120 billion that Obama gave them. Be waiting for that to be flown in on a, whatever they're, see what they don't have a C-130. Whatever they got, fly it in here. I'm sure we only in $1 bills will be covered in glitter. I don't know how and go to here. So what do they do, Israel going forward? Because you could deal, God says one thing, you can take control of it, although I don't know how you want to take control of it long term, find some way to hand it off. You can feel good that you have castrated Hezbollah to some degree in Lebanon, you know, and yet the Lebanese army that is smaller than Hezbollah and heck, there are members of Hezbollah. There are also members of Lebanese army, which is a bad situation. But you could at least get that, but Iran's sitting there. I mean, the seal is, they, they pop the top on the beer. They have been launching missiles at Israel, let alone attacking our people and Israel and others in places like Syria and elsewhere. I mean, so Iran has worked a lot through proxies, but some of this stuff is not even been proxy work. Yeah. Iran firing the missiles is not proxy by any means. And so, I mean, in, in, and so, like, they're in an open state of war, but like, but you just said it. Yeah. Okay. That's what, that's what I think people dance around. To me, I look at it that way too. It's an open state of war. You just launch missiles into another country. That's right. That's, I mean, well, but what, well, obviously only Congress and American can, can define what a war is or declare war. But we can have all kind of, yeah, incursions all the time. I mean, like, I don't think, Congress never even approved, I mean, almost the last time they, they, we've approved a while, I don't even know to be there. I don't either. I have to look that up. I have a bad story in, but, but no, I mean, I think that the, you know, Israel is definitely in the state of war. I mean, they have to be their back is up against the sea and they've got every country around them. It wants to push them into the sea. And so how do they deal with Gaza in the long term? Like, you know, is it an occupation? I would want to be, oh, that'd be, that'd be a horrible, horrible situation. Of course, detail. I mean, but you've got a very densely populated area of the world that, you know, that you want it to thrive, but you also have 70% of the people in that country or in Gaza that absolutely just don't think you should exist. So how do you police that? Yeah. I don't know how you police it. I don't know going forward. I mean, if you, if you are policing it, it's not, they're going to wait you out. It's not like, oh, we'll do five years and then we'll turn it over. Come on right back. More with Jonathan McConnell right here on Midday Mobile. You're listening to Midday Mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM Talk 106 Mile. All right. Back in more of our conversation with Jonathan McConnell, we're already in the US. So not only does he have the experience as a warrior in the rain, he has friends and a company that's operating in the theater we're talking about and got folks that are in harm's way. Yeah. It's, we're a little bit further south. I wish we could do some stuff in the med. I really wish we would have like Pirates of like Norway and Sweden, like the Vikings back because like I just would love to vacation there or at least visit there. You say like summertime, if the piracy could hit like the North Atlantic and then summer time move down to the med and, yeah, okay, the med would be nice. Yeah. Those two would be great. Pirates, if you're listening out there, there's opportunities for you. Listen, I'll recruit you, but you, we'll put you on this side that will be on this side, but you've talked to us the whole time. Here we are talking about the proxies, Hezbollah, Hamas, you know, we're talking about the open warfare. I'm not glad you said that because that seems like people push back again, they launch and missiles in there. It's open war. It's a war, but then the Houthis, another one of the proxies out there, they give a lot of trouble, you know, to shipping interest, let alone military. And so, but they're all aligned, right? So right. They're all getting a paycheck from IRG. Yeah. And so, I mean, Iran, the Houthis are Shia Muslim, Iran, obviously, is the Shia superpower or power in the region and who wants to, you know, supplant Saudi as the superpower in the Middle East. They want that dominance. That's why there's always been the rivalry between Saudi and Iran. A hundred time there, do you think that the factionalization between Sunni and Shia is big enough to have what we're told almost happened with the Abraham Accords, to have the Sunnis go, "Okay, listen, we'll just accept Israel because we'd rather accept Israel than deal with the Shia's?" You know, that divide, the Shia Sunni divide is, I mean, it goes back to what the seventh century, 780 after the death of the Prophet Muhammad, I mean, it is one of those things that is still amazing because I think that you can still unify the Muslim world against the infidels which you and I are. I mean, if you're in that state of war, which, thankfully, we're not in America, which is so nice. Yeah. There are some wonderful Muslim people in America, like who are considered dear friends. That's the fanatics or the problems, but we kind of have that here in America as well, frankly. But, you know, I think that if we go back to, I mean, if we invaded, if a Western government invaded a Middle Eastern country again, I think that you would see some unity among the Sunnis and the Shios. I just, you know, I think that if we got involved with Iran, I think that you would see maybe not openly, but I even think that- Really? I think- So Arabs would back Persians, in that case, if we had, if we were involved against- I think maybe not all the Arabs, I mean, I don't think MBS would. Right. I love MBS. I think he's been so good for the Middle East. Women drive now. I mean, sure, he kills chop up people. Yeah. I've got my issues. But he's got the golf tour. You know, I was wrong. Yeah. I mean, but women now can drive in Saudi Arabia because of MBS. I mean, he is, he is, he's got a vision for what, 2035 he's like, you know, he's like, listen, we need to be off oil because we can't do this forever. And I mean, that's very sharp and forward looking, whereas- I mean, he's already stacked up the money. It's easier to make the decisions when you, you know, you're not worried about where next paycheck comes from. That's right. That's right. Well, in the prison at the Ritz Carlton, a couple of years ago, it's pretty awesome. Yeah. I've been waiting to get locked up there for a long time. So, I mean, you do believe that that, and I don't want that to happen, but that's interesting, the perspective that if there, I don't want to send it for multiple reasons, but that's another one there. But I don't know how you, if you're Israel, you can deal with Hamas, you can deal with Hezbollah, Houthis are down there, whatever. You may be able to castrate them, get, but Iran's still openly shooting missile has openly shot. Or is it an inevitable war between Israel and Iran to before this ends? How do you find a stopping point? What is an armistice? What is a war? I mean, is it troops on the ground? Is it, "Hey, our flag's now over your cap," or, "How do you define it? You're right." I mean, Iran and Iraq were in war for, eight, 12 years, and so, which decimated both countries frankly. And so, I mean, Israel doesn't have the ability to invade Iran. I mean, it's, you know, but can they shoot a bunch of missiles and decimate their economy, can they decimate their nuclear program? I mean, yes, they can do that. But like, what are the, I know this is weird for an American to say, like, what are the objectives of the war because we don't seem to ever think about that? Yeah, like, why? Why? Yeah, like, oh, you know, are we going to pull out? Yeah, let's do it tomorrow. Let's let everybody get killed on the airstrip, so, you know, it's, sorry, a little sarcastic there. But, you know, there's 13 Americans dead because of that and so many others. And, yeah, that one just decision at Abigade. So where does this go in your opinion in the next six months, where does this conflict go? I think we're going to, I think we'll continue. All the economists, all the, like, especially on the shipping side, they say there's no change that we don't see any change in the next, in the long term, like the next year. So insurance rates are still astronomical, you know, you're looking at, you know, even some shipping lines are banned from going through, like the, it's millions of dollars just to get the approval to go through, like the insurance to say, yes, you still have hull and machinery insurance to be able to go through there. But like, if it's in any way not commercial, they don't let you go. Wow. And that could go on, like, they're saying indefinitely, it's not like they're saying how we got six more months of this, yeah, they're saying it right now, there's no long-term change, which is crazy, but, but look at, you know, the Houthis shot a couple missiles at Israel and actually landed a couple in Tel Aviv a couple weeks ago, and then the Houthis responded in blew up, like, I mean, the reserve, they blew up their oil reserves and like that there. I mean, Israel just was like, Hey, you mess with us. This is what happens. And you know what? They haven't shot any more missiles at them. It's, you know, it's one of those things when you do that, like, walk softly and carry a big stick and you actually, like, do something, they'll stop. This is a very solvable problem with, you know, with the Houthis, but you know, we've got to have a spine and administration. Well, maybe that spine is coming. Someone that's, you know, actually here with this today. Yeah. Yeah. Right. That's right. We're, we're hoping, we're hoping, hoping Jonathan has always been, I appreciate it. Good to see you brother. All right. Tell, be right back. (upbeat music)