To grow in sports, podcast network, work, work. Hello and welcome to the Daily Newcastle. My name's Ian Mackay. I'm here to discuss yesterday's game with Everton, first of all, with our hicksboxing hopping knob. The lovely Joe. Hello Joe. How are you doing? I'm all good Ian, lovely to see you as always. Two weeks I've waited to say kickbox in cock and knob. I hope you like it. I loved it really, yeah. Cock and knob. Brilliant. And joining Joe and I is our very own professional sports journalist, Michael Graemslaw. Hello, hello, hello, hello, Michael. I'm doing good, thank you very much, how about you both? I'm a little bit better having seen that the Rafa beard has come back. I couldn't lose it for that long. It's a part of me, it's grown to me and it's going to be here for the rest of my life. Excellent. Brilliant. Well, we are here rather unexpectedly for Michael and rather late because of something that Joe's had to do with her dad, Peter, to hospital and we better not start talking about yesterday's game. Let's be honest. It wouldn't be that that had given him trouble with his chest. But I think we should have to say, Peter, I know you'll be listening. We really hope that you have a speedy, speedy recovery and, yeah, don't eat your crisps and your pickled eggs quite so I'll get the beans in the chest. He'll be good. He just likes the attention. Excellent. Anyway, Newcastle's final visit to Goodison Park yesterday ended up Neil Neil and Neil Neil's normally don't have very much for us to talk about so thank you guys and good night. No. No. But this was a Neil Neil. This was a Neil Neil that was quite full of hits, isn't I thought? Yeah. I thought we played really well but I'm going to throw it open to two opposing views, I think. Joe, ladies first, what do you think of the lineup first of all? No changes from the man's city game. I mean, it's what we expected. It's what we predicted and it's kind of what we wanted wasn't it really because we discussed all the changes that were made for Wimbledon and the fact that really it was, well, bad, but it lightly, anyway, back to the city and back to the Everton game. Sorry. Yeah, it's exactly what we expected wasn't it? Isaac's out. Let's hope he's back after the international break. But how we played? I think I do differ from what we've obviously talked about in the group, from how Michael feels about that game. If I remember, I put it, prove is wrong if you want Michael. Sorry. No, I've got to say you'll be right. No, I'm sorry. I don't think anybody on Wednesday or Tuesday, even when we played Wimbledon, who had a great opportunity to do something special and maybe force their way into the team, nobody really did it. No, no. So I wasn't surprised it was an unchanged starting line at Michael. Yeah. You agree? Yeah, I have to agree that to be honest, he got the lineup pretty much spot on for me. I mean, the game didn't exactly go on how we anticipated, but when you look at it before the game, you know, people can say, "Oh, in hindsight, maybe you should have maybe played Livermento instead of Trippier, a bit more energy," or, you know, "a long staff could have been in there," or "Willik," or anything like that. But realistically, at the start of the game, that was the 11 that you wanted. And, unfortunately, it didn't really deliver, but even after that game, if you say it to me, I think it's bright and we play after the international break, do you make any changes? I'm probably saying no, because no one's an impressing. Yeah. Well, I think that's your first controversial statement of the evening, to be fair, Michael. If you say Mickey Almoron, I'm not going to say Mickey Almoron, though. I, yeah, I ultimately was frustrated at the end of that game, even more so than at the end of Man City. Obviously, it was there for us to take our performance in the first half, I thought was very good. We are a totally unaware heel of a centre forward who somehow is standing on his own gold line away from Bruno Gomara's taking the lead after about 20 minutes. Obviously, Anthony Gordon then misses a penalty. We go in at heart time at Neil Neil, when really nobody could have complained if we were too up at that point. And I think the performance was worthy of that. I don't think they were isolated out of the blue incident. I was quite upbeat at half time. I thought it was just a question of time. We were so much in control and was a standard, as I think you were as well, Joe, when our miserable Michael came on and gave his character a game for the game was going. If me and Joe could just do our happy clapping, but we're not going to. You tell us about the first half, Michael, why was it so dreadful? Well, put it this way. You can see why we haven't scored in the first 30 minutes of games this season. I mean, we were the better team, granted, but I watched Aston Villa and Man United earlier and Oz was the worst game of the weekend. And I nearly fell asleep in the other one. It was generally, it was two really, really poor teams who just couldn't read. When it got the final third, neither team knew what to do with it. In midfield and in the back line, we looked solid. I think we were a bit real beat to start off, but Everton just coming off the win, a little bit of a roll behind them. They started OK. The rest, the other 97 minutes or something, they were dreadful. 87 minutes. Sorry. It's injury time, 97, but yeah, it just, for me, I'm rambling because I don't want to say the wrong thing, but ultimately, when Newcastle United has possession and we try and break teams down with a pass and style of play, we can't do it. And then we go to crossing the ball in to five players who are five foot seven. We saw it a little bit against City and we went, "It's City, sure. Try it. See if it works." Michael Keenan, James Tarkowski, and the only thing that got at is heading the ball, and we're still putting it in that way. Now, I will say, there was a lot of cutbacks at the same time, they're fine, but it did just feel all to one dimensional. And as I said, it's part of time. If there's any team's going to win this, it's going to be Everton. And when you look at the chance they had with the controversial penalty, which was, if I know, means ever apparently, you know, gay, sort of scored. And realistically, that was the best chance of the game. So maybe we should have lost, but I just hate Everton. And when we play badly against them, it really riles me up. Were you that balloon at half time, Jill? I wasn't, but you know what it is? He's making me like, or I'm alive and be glum. No, no, no, no, he's underation. He's just taking up this podcast. It wasn't like, no, Michael, I'll give you a due to be fair, like, listen to what you're saying there. It kind of made me think a bit differently, maybe, because no, I was not. I was really happy at half time. I must admit, I say I was happy, but, you know, said the same thing as we do all the time, texting my dad, whatever, speaking to my husband, that if we don't now take the chances or have we just missed our chance to kind of take this game sort of thing, because it is always that thing that do we just keep playing well with no end product, it has happened a lot in the past sort of thing. So it was a concern of mine at half time, but no, I definitely was not glum about it. However, Michael, I've got to be honest, you do make quite a few good points there, so I'm certainly not going to argue with them. But I was a lot happier than you obviously felt at half time, and I was happier throughout the game, I'll be honest, but it was just a massive frustration that we couldn't put it at bed, and it was one of those games that you thought that they were just going to make it at the end, thank God they didn't, but it was one of those, but that's always a problem with games like that, isn't it, you can go and go and go, but it felt like something that we were never going to score, no matter how long we played sort of thing. So, yeah, it was frustrating game in the end, I would say. Well, I am going to take issue with Michael's approach at half time, but I'm not going to do it until part two, because I believe you have a message from our lovely sponsor two. I do indeed, first one up is Zencaster, do you have a story to tell that the world needs to hear? Have you struggled with reaching new audiences who are engaged with your story? It might be time for you to start a podcast. Let me tell you about platform we use here at Global Sports Podcast Network. Zencaster makes it easy to start a high quality podcast built for growth from day one, with 4K video recording from your phone and AI editing which automatically removes, ohms, your nose, and 22 other speech patterns. Zencaster makes it super easy to start a podcast that sounds great. Ready to tell your story? Check out the link in the show description to learn more about Zencaster. Well done, Joanne. Thanks, now. Yes, Michael. Moving into the second half as well, I thought that throughout the Newcastle team there were some excellent performances, I thought Evan never really got much of a sniff. McNeil and the other winger whose name temporarily escapes me. They did absolutely nothing. I thought Lewis Hall had Jack Harrison in his back pocket the whole game and was still able to push forward and overlap on numerous occasions. I think we put some really, really nice transitions from defence through the midfield and then up into the final third together. I agree with you, it was frustrating that that final ball couldn't be found or it was played behind somebody or the two Everton centre halls who were live forgetting their body and the way of it were able to block it out. But, you know, 10 corners to nil. We were on top and we were attacking to get 10 corners without having attempts on goal or putting some pressure on the byline. I was confident that we would see our way to goal in the second half because I thought we'd been so much on top. I've got to ask you, do you think there was a mistake to let Anthony Gordon take the penalty? Michael. I've changed my mind. At the time, I sat there and went, he's missing this. I could bring my wife through right now and said, he's missing this, there's no way. And then I was like, why is he taking the penalty? So I actually looked into it, Gordon scored five from five and I think if you said to him, you're not taking this after letting him take one against City, that basically says to him, you don't think I'm strong enough mentally. And I can see why he took it now, hindsight, a lovely thing. Personally, I would have probably said Fabian shared the take and just go look great penalty against Wimbledon. Let's go that way. But yeah, I think Gordon taking the penalty was probably the right move, although I don't like it now. I think I've got to congratulate you on not having the 2020 hindsight that a lot of commentators who I've been listening to over this weekend have got say it was obvious not to let him do it. Gordon was snow pickford inside out and he probably played in the games where pickford had a record of saving two of the last 23 penalties that he's faced and Gordon backs himself to take a penalty. There was only Gordon. He's on the pitch. He takes the penalty. He backs off when it's Isaac that's there. So yeah, I think it was absolutely right to let him take it. And yeah, it was annoying that he didn't actually strike the ball very well. And pickford saved with his knee and his face. Calculated. What do you think? I'm with you guys. Yeah, I believe it was the right move. However, I did say at the time, his process that he goes through, one of my friends pointed out like he was taking a long time and she even said that before he finished his process. So if she had enough time to text me and everything, he obviously was taking his time now. I appreciate that. But I, you know, give him the benefit of the doubt. I understand why Gordon took it like you say, he scores, he scores penalties. It doesn't, it wouldn't make sense to not let him. However, what my concern was, I had said pride of that penalty. And I will say I said it throughout the match that I do believe the crowd did get them. I do believe something got him. I don't believe his head was perfect throughout that game at all. So based on that, I would have let's share, take it, but not anything else. I wouldn't have not let him take it just purely because it's his ex club and all his sort of malarkey, because technically, yes, he should have scored against Pickford, but you can flip that on the other side, Pickford, unfortunately with these wonderful celebration of that, knows Gordon, doesn't he? They played together England and Everton, you know what I mean? So we're talking about two players. I do know a lot about each other. So Pickford wouldn't know as much about Gordon as I suppose Gordon knows about Pickford. So it was going to be a real battle, I suppose, of a penalty. And at the end of the day, let's get real. It was a poor penalty, Gordon would score much better penalties than that. It's almost like he miskicked it almost. If you watched it, it almost like did a bit of a weird bobble type of movement. I think he did. I'm not saying, yeah, I'm not saying he did. I don't know. But it didn't look like that, didn't it? But he would be much better just smash it like he did the last time and just smash it and hit it at the left. I know. But his run up was exactly the same as it had been at Manchester City, and of course he sort of swiveled and put it in the bottom left-hand corner as we're looking against City. Edison went off to die to the right when he did that. So Pickford was probably thinking, I don't know, he's outthought him, hasn't he? I don't think that there was any mental problem with Anthony Gordon in that game. He was fantastically pressing, leaving from the front end. I'm not saying that game, by the way, I just think it was just little things. I was watching him kind of, I don't know, as I say, it's just an observation I made. Could be right, could be wrong, you know, but I think they get on a little bit. It's boundaries, you know, I don't blame. Better chance, better chance than the one that just again put over the bar after the none penalty shout for Everton was that lovely through ball, I think, that Mickey played for him, and that should have been nestling in the bottom corner. For some reason he tries to go for the roof of the net, we've seen him roll those in on either side of the keeper, maybe at that instance, ten minutes to go or whatever it was, and it's still being kneel-lil, maybe that did get to him at that particular point. I mean, it's moments like that, that I think that he'd just let something, whether it was the whole god knows, you know what it is, it's just our observations, isn't it? But it was, it was just moments like that, that at the end of the game, that's how I kind of reflected on Gordon's performance at all. Yeah, I think, I'm sorry, I was going to ask you something different there, Michael, which has occurred to me, for such a poor performance, which Newcastle players do you think let themselves down, because one that's brinsed around immediately, I've thought that they generally, they played really well. I know there were a little bit sloppy in possession on occasion, but you tell me who was getting the four out of ten from you, through that team for you to be so, I mean, you said they were both poor teams like Newcastle were the same as Everton, outrageous. There was clearly levels, but the same, Everton were the worst team in the league, and I think based off that performance, we might not be travelling any Everton Stadium any time soon, never mind Goodison. But the player that immediately sprinted mind for me was Harvey Barnes. I love Harvey Barnes as a player, but he's, honestly, that was the worst performance I've ever seen from him. From a Leicester shirt to his time, yeah, in the championship, it was one of those ways, up against James Garner, a central midfielder, and I don't think he tries to take him on once, and you're sitting there throughout the process of the game and going right, Gordon's not having a very good game, but you know what, actually, he's mentally, you could see it was getting to him, in the moments where he just didn't have to think about it, I thought it was incredible, in regards to just making the run, getting into space, I thought he was really good, but in the moments where he actually had to think about it, Gordon sort of led up a bit, but Barnes, I don't think he had one good moment in the game. And I think, you know, it was clear when he got hooked, we moved your lint in there instead, who, yeah, he was busy, he was quite good, but again, you're putting a player more like James Garner there and you're not making the most of the fact that their two wing backs, well, a full back, should I say, actually, because in Dye and Harrison, we're trying to get forward, just not very well, but Ashley Young, who, how are we still playing, I don't know, but then again, I think he's all of us combined. It's a miracle he's still playing football, but yeah, Barnes for me is more of a disappointment than what the Gordon thing is and I've seen people say, Gordon's let the side down, Gordon's the reason we lost, I don't think so, I still think, you know, you take those two moments out of the game where he should've scored, he was our best attacking player, full part, I mean, 100%, I thought Dan Bern in Lewis Hall, very good, but again, I would've said we were pretty poor again, I said we were pretty poor against Southampton in the back fall, we're all very solid, so it's, for me, I just want to see us pass the ball and actually try and play football, but get it in the back of the net as well, and there were some players who were really trying, Bruno, I thought, fantastic, Joel Linton, probably the most we've seen him on the ball in a little while, but then, Barnes, maybe not Murphy, I can't remember too much that Murphy did, to be honest, but I don't think he had a great game, but just the two wingers I thought, just not doing enough. Well, fancy that, I didn't, I mean, I was disappointed that Barnes got hooked, but that wasn't because I was desperate to get pulled off to bring Willecon, or I thought he was, I thought he was available, I thought he was, he wasn't as effective as he has been, but you know, he was a threat, and he cut in a lot and distributed the ball without losing it, I thought you were going to pick Tinalead, because I think Tinale was a little bit, maybe as he tired, he got more sloppy with his, with his distribution, and he got hooked, so Tinalead was a big second half, he was really poor, first half I thought he was excellent, so it's evened itself out a little bit for me, you can see the minutes I started to take a bit of effect, but when you saw that, you got hooked, so I guess credit to anyhow for that. Anyway, we're going to pause there, Michael, you're going to talk about something that doesn't involve describing Newcastle as a poor team alongside Everton, you've got another message from one of our sponsors, wait, do I? Of course I do, it's the Global Sports Podcast Network, now this podcast is part of the Global Sports Podcast Network, the only network bringing you exclusive, daily news and views on your Premier League team, the Premier League women's football, and fantasy football, and actually, as of soon, cricket. We bring you a unique listening experience that puts fans first, bringing you the very latest breaking news from your team, subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, and make us your first listen, every day, Global Sports Podcast Network, every club, every day. Well done, Michael, and I'm sorry for springing that one, you have to have it preparedly before we started recording, making a copy of the advert. I was going to scramble the phone and I'd pick it up, be like, I'll read it, it's not me. No, I just wanted to call it some havoc, it's fine. Mission accomplished, Michael, well done, mission accomplished, right, so after the game, it's a point, this has been being positive now, it's a point in Everton, which is a place where we didn't get a point last year. Same as the draw at home with Man City was a point where we didn't get a point last year, so I still think that in the general scheme of things, because of the quality of everything, apart from actually putting the ball in the back of the net, that Newcastle's trajectory is still up and improving over the course of this season. It left us, I think it leaves us in seventh after today, Sunday's games, delighted to see Villar and Man U draw, and Forrest take it, and Forrest hold Chelsea and Brighton come back and be Tottenham, because I think they're all fourth place rivals and they have no ground on us whatsoever. So that might be a very good point in the final reckoning. Absolutely. So I still think we can be very positive going into this international break. How are you feeling, seventh place, 12 points, I think it is for the first seven games, Michael? To be honest, I'm actually on the positive train in this regard, it's the same with Bournemouth as well, by the way, another point we lost 2-0 down there last season, so it's one of those that maybe if Man United had won, you know, Villar didn't have their injury crisis that they're currently going through, told you all by the way on the Villar side. We did tell you this was going to happen, listen to us more often, Spurs, bottle jobs as always. If all that wasn't happening, maybe it would be a little bit more negative, but you know, we're only was it two points off the top four and we haven't exactly played well, so you can only imagine what we're going to be like when it finally starts to click. When Kamal Wilson comes back after the international break, and we've got his hat on the left to help him go down the right wall what a forward line. Yeah, I'm super up, I'm up for the season, Joe, how are you feeling about the season? I'm feeling really good, I'm honest, and I've got to assume that any negativity towards it is just coming from the fact that we could have done better, but you could do that in any season, couldn't you, in any match, or we could have done this, we could have done that, and in the grand scheme of things like you say, it could also be worse. So I'm feeling all right, we've got a lot of positives to drive towards, and if this is the blip, because let's get real, sorry, at any point of any season, teams will have their blips. I'd rather get it out the way at the start of the season, we can just push onwards and upwards from here, you never know what we can do, but I'm feeling confident I'll be honest, I'm fine. Just far too early in the season, to start going into any sort of panic mode, or you ridiculous like you see people going on about any how and all this sort of thing, you've got to block out stuff like that, I think, and I think the players and stuff like that should as well, just keep the full focus on driving forward and we'll be all right, don't let that bite me on the backside, but we'll be all right. I think it's a good thing that we have some, after our benign start, apparently, to talk at a benign start, have you seen who Liverpool have played so far? Nobody, that's the answer, perhaps by the top of the lead. See how they look after they've played Chelsea and Arsenal in the next two games. We've got some quite tough games coming up as well, but I think that might suit us, and we've got a grime and then Arsenal at home, six points in the bag, in my habit, but we've got one point from those two games last year, I think, do we get a drill? against Brighton? I think we managed to avoid being beaten, didn't we, but Arsenal, why not we do we be? I can't remember if we've been. We've been in the moment just last season. Was that when we got the balls out, he's pushed in and he's all tied? The goal that will go down in history, yeah. Right, well, that's got to be a target, there's a referee mistakes. We can need at least four points from those then, but I think having sat through Newcastle managed to city and see how they can galvanize themselves and play against a team like that for 19 minutes. I think it might be what Newcastle need. I think it might be this sort of tougher in the fixtures that's coming up, and we end up with Chelsea in the lead cup after we've played them away in the league as well. It's all October, isn't it? It's tougher in the fixtures coming, but he's got a squad to do some rotation. I think we'll have a better feel for the rest of the season when we got through to the end of October, but I'm quite positive about that. I think we should have some further improvement in performance, and we'll do very well. Where are we at the end of October with you, Michael? Well, so if I look at October as well, the mid-table and out of the caravan, that's what you're going to say, isn't it? Level with Everton. I had a kid's nobody come to my house, but seriously, out of the fixtures that we had, the one I was least looking forward to was Everton, because as I mentioned on the tactics pod last week, the low block really scares me. Bright, not going to play a low block. Chelsea aren't going to play a low block, and Arsenal certainly aren't going to play a low block, so the way they play will almost play into our hands. Now I know Chelsea, the two games last year, had a lot of goals, and to be fair, the way they've started, until the last couple of games has been a little bit of a blip. They've started really well, but I generally think we beat Brighton, it wasn't all that. I haven't been all that impressed with them recent games. I think they and Legos need teams to open up and play, which we will do, but I think we'll go legit at home, I think we'll lose at Stamford Bridge, I will say, so then beat them in the cup, and then I think we'll get a draw against Arsenal. Right, that's what Captain Misery says for us, I think we're going to do that. I think we're going to do that. Misery, dude, that's all. I'll get Misery at the heart on now. The press is breaking news, breaking news, Michael's got a status hat, and the next point. How are we in Toronto? Oh no, oh my God, where are we at the end of October, Joe? We're doing all right, so all right, we're going to be Brighton. All right, and we'll get a draw against Arsenal, all right, and we'll get a draw down at Chelsea, and then we'll beat them in the cup. That's only one point more than me, where's the Misery, how are Captain Misery? But we didn't lose, that's why, because I'm not one with no loss. It's not an away game in between Brighton and Arsenal, there is, there's an away game somewhere. Isn't it? Well, you've got the international break now. Chelsea. Then we play Brighton. Right, yeah. Yeah. Is that a week where we've got a Chelsea twice than ours? Yeah. Oh my God. 27. Yeah, 27th is Sunday, right, and then Wednesday is the cup game on the 30th. That's all right. We've got England versus Greece and Finland versus England in between that. Come on! Jesus man, that's where I'm going to be Captain Misery. I know exactly. Can I borrow your hat, Michael? I'll go get it. Right. I think at the point where Joe was asking to borrow Michael's clothes, it's only a question time before Michael starts asking to go, so but Joe's clothes, that is a good point. It already happens. For us to stop. It's all gone wrong. Thank you very much indeed for listening.
