Grant and Danny

G&D Live At Caps 50 Fest, Too Early To Talk About Daniels Winning MVP?

10.10.24 Hour 1

1:00- G&D are LIVE from Capital One Arena for their Caps 50 fest! We then move on to discuss Hurricane Milton as it went through Florida this past evening.

18:30- Lots of people are talking about Jayden Daniels being in the MVP conversation... Should we pump the brakes?

Broadcast on:: 10 Oct 2024
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We are on the air, and we are taking you up 2630 on the fan. We are fired up to be out and about today. A capital one arena ahead of the caps 50 event. We'll tell you all about that in a moment. We are getting you ready for the commanders and the Ravens. Brian Baldinger will be on the show at 3 o'clock. We'll be joined on site by Oli the goalie. Colzig stops by at 530 today. Hello, Daniel. What do you say, body? We are at cap one arena. It's almost like we never left. Just-- it feels like we were just here doing stuff as it relates to the winter sports. But they're getting underway this week. It feels-- I'm not ready for it. Like, I'm still-- we're only five weeks into the nipple season, and now we're entering week six. But it's like, yeah, obviously, I get it. I mean, I understand how the calendar works. But it feels like this is all coming on very quickly. Head on a swivel, my friend. I am extremely ready for it. This is your boy's happy place being back here at capital one arena. The only thing that would make me happier is if there was ice laid out, there was a sheet of ice to look at. A sheet out in the middle of the bowl there in the arena. And people were filing in and cap sweaters already. That'll happen around five when the doors open. Instead of the ice, you're seeing flooring because there's a concert. Third Eye Blind is performing tonight, a little bit after 8 o'clock, I believe. But it's an all-night event. It's going to be a lot of fun. I've heard that there are 70 caps alumni that are going to be on hand today. Nice. We'll have Holy Colesic, among others, on the show, which is going to be very cool. And every single member of the current capital's roster will be here. I got to say really quickly, the capitals do stuff like this the best, better than any other team in town. And I'm sure the commanders with the new regime are going to try to close that gap. The wizards, the nationals, do things at a high level in their own regards. This is not to ding anybody else. But the capitals-- They're all chasing the cap. It's just first class. With everything that they do, it feels familial. There's something about hockey in that regard, too, where a lot of the fans that are here now, we're here in the '70s. It's just an awesome experience. I think that they're putting together for fans tonight. It's going to be a really sweet deal. They've got DJs planned throughout the day. The Stanley Cup's going to be here. The alumni mingling with the current players, with the fans. It's going to be a party. And it all leads up to the start of a brand new season on Saturday night with their red carpet event. 50 years they've been around. It's hard to believe. I remember just like the other 10s of people going to US Air Arena or the Capitol Center, wherever you used to call it back in the day in Landover, Maryland, making the trek around the Beltway, just slogging through afternoon traffic, with 7,000 of my best friends to watch them take on the Hartford Whalers. It's crazy that they've been around for 50 years. The majority, I don't totally make up 50 years, but I'm close as they age, so do I. The different iterations, the different memories I have of some of these Capitol's teams, some of which are really good. They have kind of long been forgotten. You go to a dark place for a little while, as kind of this, I don't want to say rebrand, but this rock-the-red era that's been led, of course, by a vetchkin, some of the mainstays, and some of those guys even now have graduated, right? It's now Ovi and John Carlson, obviously, one of the senior statesmen. But some of the dudes that were part of the furniture here, the backstrums of the world, are kind of no longer mainstays at this point. So it's always fun to have milestone numbers like, there's something different about 49 than 50, right? It's only one, but it's not. You can always kind of look back and think back on some of the good memories, the bad, the tough and everything in between, but they've been there. - Tell me I'm wrong with what I'm about to say. - Go on. - Tell me I'm wrong, Danny Ruier, or listener with your hands on your steering wheel. October's the best sports month. The last few nights have been amazing. I've gone to bed so late, and I've had so many different things on multiple screens. Last night, the wife, if she was going upstairs to bed, she says, "You're overstimulating yourself." Like, I'm some five-year-old, who's like eating a bunch of foods and just looking at too many screens, but I had multiple TVs going, previous channel button. I got the laptop up, the NHL is back, the Wizards were playing a preseason game, the cap preseason is over. You've got the Major League Baseball playoffs, which have been incredible, oh, by the way. The Dodgers forced in a game five against the Padres yesterday. Yankee's gonna try to finish off the Royals based on some of the proceedings. I don't know who you were rooting for, Mets or Phillies. Probably nobody. - Yeah, that's rooting against everybody. - Mets advanced past Philadelphia. And then, oh, by the way, in the NFL, we got Thursday Night Football tonight, a great game between the 49ers and the Seahawks. The commanders are good for the first time since 1914. Like, what is not to like right now about the sports landscape? - Yeah, it's all happening. - And then I took my French bulldog for a walk in 52 degree weather, had to put on a little sweat pant jacket tandem to go take a walk last night. - Pop that sweatshirt on on the walk to school. Sorry about it, sorry about it. Just not, the key, whatever one should want. I'm gonna, if you're an in-shape Instagram person, you're an influencer, you tell me about the latest 10% off code for your fitness product and your ginseng is better than everyone else's, whatever. This isn't for you, but the rest of us people. Here's your bar. If I'm, let's say I'm standing, just standing outside. - Ben standing. - Am I sweating just by existing? If the answer's no, welcome. Welcome to the fall. - Yeah. - Welcome to the time for us, regular people, right? If you live in a bikini and you're endlessly taking vacations and that's really not even your vacation where it's just where you are all the time, I don't know how you're doing that, but that's fine. For the rest of us working slubs with mortgages and concerns now, right now is the time. - Suck, soak it in. - Looking at the 30, 13 quarterback rankings that drop today, where they, based on just the performance this season, rank every single quarterback, they say reminder of these ranks, we're built around the following scoring system, skill set, how good a quarterback is, production score, EPA per play, and success rate. So it is a combination of how good they think you are and also how you're playing. The number one quarterback in the NFL right now is Jaden Daniels, according to the 30, 13. Their top five is Daniels, fellow LSU Tiger Heisman Trophy winner Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, and Patrick Mahomes. So he's on a list with the other four guys that are typically in the top five on everybody's list. Mahomes, Jackson, Allen, Burrow, and whatever order you normally throw them into. What's interesting though, is that they have Jaden Daniels first. - That is the interesting part, is you're not scrolling down, you have to scroll up. Once again, that's not a scroll down, that's a scroll up to find the Washington quarterback. How quickly things can change? - I don't necessarily think when I watch all these games with my eyes, that Daniels is definitively the number one quarterback in the NFL through five games. I think he's in the conversation. But then you start to look at everybody else. They all have the same misses, they all have the same, that play could have been better moments. Joe Burrow's team has lost all but one of its games. Now, you don't hold that all against Joe Burrow, but it's not like he's been perfect. He was great against Washington. He threw for 400 yards and five touchdowns against Baltimore. He might be, for me, the number one quarterback in the league so far, but it's not like the first couple of weeks didn't show some rust from him. Lamar Jackson has had some bugaboo moments to turn over some flaws. Josh Allen just came off a 13 for 30. I'm gonna put him right now over Jaden Daniels. And again, like we talk about with, are they a Super Bowl contender? Where are they on the power rankings? This does not mean Jaden Daniels is the best quarterback in football on some off-season ranking going in the next year. But you're just talking about what we've seen, which is to this point, 20 quarters of football, and just like you could say Washington is everybody as good as any team in the NFC, just like you could say the commanders if they beat the Ravens or a Super Bowl contender, you could also say Jaden Daniels is in the conversation as the best quarterback in football. - Yeah, you could pick some nets, right? And this is what I always talk about with rankings. When we used to go, well, they're not 28th, they're probably more than 24th, it doesn't matter, you're irrelevant, you're in the bottom bucket, you are and also, Ram. This just means I would probably say the guy that Jackson, who's ninth in passing yards and eighth in rushing yards in the NFL, not on quarterbacks in the whole league. - Is that right? - That's pretty incredible. Joe Burrow has been beyond prolific last week. Josh Allen got off to an unbelievable start regression a little bit these past couple of weeks. - Let me be clear, if I'm making my rankings, I would have those three go up above Daniels 'cause I didn't like the Tampa Bay game and I thought the first half of the Giants game. So basically it's three and a half really good games. And even this past week, where he had the unbelievable plays that are otherworldly that no one else can make, there was more inaccuracies and bad in there. But still, we're talking about one of the best quarterback performances of the season so far. - Yeah, to me at worst, and this to me is the entire point of the conversation, it's not to run down Jaden Daniels, I'm doing the opposite. At worst, you would go, okay fine, I'll slide them in sixth, at worst, given these rankings, right? And that's the point, you were in the conversation to be one, two, three, four, five. Shuffle up and deal, because there's 27 teams that are going, God, I wish I had that. - And he's number one on a lot of the EPA metric stuff, which is very favorable to the dual threat QB 'cause of the rushing stuff, number one, which accounts, so it should be. But it also I think is more of a team statistic than say like a pro football focus grade, which is very drilled down on, did you do your job on that play? But look, if he keeps playing at the level he is, they're gonna keep winning football games, he's gonna keep getting the accolades, and they're going to continue to be in the conversation with any lists that are coming out. I wanna talk to Brian Baldinger about Jaden Daniels and the commanders when he joins us at three o'clock today here on GND. There's a bunch of historical opportunities for Daniels in Washington this weekend against the Ravens, which we'll get to in just a minute. But did you watch any of the hurricane coverage last night? Are you a guy that watches weather coverage? - No, it's not for me. I don't, there's a million parts about it that I don't enjoy. There's also a lot of part about it I don't quite understand. Like when they're like evacuate, and then there's like live on the scene from where you should be evacuated, here's a person. - Yeah. - I don't, I've never loved how excited news organizations get about, it feels like they're getting about hurricane coverage or weather coverage. Snow stuff and everything else. - There is something about weather coverage that appeals to me, and I'm not alone, obviously. - Oh, totally, of course, yeah. - The ratings and everyone's watching it last night, and I wonder what that is. Why is that? The scenes are awful. Think about it. I mean, people's houses, and even if they did well, you know, one of our colleagues had a family member that was in that area, and, you know, parts of their houses damaged, and their fences ruined, and whatever else is going on. Like, even though that went well for them, that is a gigantic pain in the ass, where now you're on the phone for hours, and you're getting things fixed. That's kind of the best case scenario of last night. The worst case scenario is people lost homes, people are going to lose lives. It's terrible, but there is something to me about the coverage of these events that I find so fascinating. It's a lot of it I'm, like, looking at, and laughing at what they're doing. Like, this guy's trying to walk against the wind last night, and he's like, "I'm being hit with debris," and he's like, "Yeah, we get you," and I'm like, "Dude, you're dumb. "Like, what are you doing?" - I just kind of can't, that's the thing that I just do. - But why do we love it? - Why do society love it? - There's a, you agree that they do? - Oh, of course, I'm the weird one. I fully acknowledge that, right? I'm the one that's different. I think people-- - 'Cause I'm fascinated by weather in general. - Right. - Like storms, whether it's snow, hurricanes, tornadoes, the movie Twister, like, you make another one, I'll be there the first night with popcorn and cola. Tell me where to go. I think it's all feeding out of the same trough. I don't think it's a news thing. I think it's a weather thing. - There's a part of that. - Like our guy Kevin Sheehan is obsessed. He's like, "Snow totals this year." I was talking to a couple guys that have helped write the Farmer's Almanac over the years. They're expecting seven to 12 over the course of the winter months. Like, he loves it. I'm going, does the football team have a game this weekend, Kev? Like, he loves it though, and God bless you. Like, whatever you're passionate about. I just don't, and I don't have the interest in it. Never have. But be just, as to your question as to why. I, this is a little bit morbid, so a popologies. I think there's a huge section of television viewers that don't mind seeing bad stuff happen to people. On a small scale, it's like women are going and throwing wine in each other's faces and calling it the Real Housewives of somewhere. But the next level is like these sort of reality shows where awkward drama ensues, and this is like real life stuff like that where people kind of, I'm not saying you, but I think people are kind of enthralled by disaster. Like, I'm not. I don't like the idea of people, you know, losing their homes. - I would imagine that there are people, and it's a very small group of people, but you might be right, that are watching it like they watch NASCAR for a crash, and they're going, oh, come on, let's see the water rise. - But they don't know they are. - But I don't think that's the most people. Like, I'm watching last night because I'm going, this is a historical thing that we're covering in real time, that we have the technology to cover in a pretty significant way. And we're on the ground, so to speak, in these locations. I don't know, I just, I find it interesting and compelling why I'm attracted to things, or why I'm appealed to, you know, why something is appealing to me. But in this case, it is not just me. I mean, the amount of people texting me last night, as I said, I had all these games on, I got all this stuff going on, plus I got the weather, it was just a, I was basically a director in a truck last night going, camera three, camera seven, camera nine, camera four, your boy had a field day last night. It was, the coverage was incredible. Did you see what happened at the truck? - Yes. - Roof blows off. - The roof came off. - What if the rays were playing playoff baseball, which they almost always are, by the way? - Yeah, usually they're good for 92 wins with 11 guys you'd never heard of. - They would have been potentially home last night. No, they would have not had that game, obviously. But they might have a game coming up today or tomorrow. They're playing that on a neutral site. The bugs are supposed to play at Raymond James Stadium, in Tampa, Florida next week, I believe. Another fortuitous kind of grace of God thing. You don't have a home game on the schedule this weekend. But even still by next weekend, what are things going to look like? So I'm thinking about everybody praying for everybody down there. But from a sports standpoint, seeing the chop with the roof off was kind of a show last night. - That was, you're going, 'cause I, you know, you see the tweeter, see that somebody's the camera angle on it. And we're like, the roof is up, go, no, it's not. There's still, oh my God, there it is. Those are holes. It's not just light shining on one part of the roof. It's actual holes in the roof that have been ripped right off by the winds. - I gotta tell you that I think the trap is so slept on too. I like the trap a lot. - This may be one of your five or six hottest sports decks. - I like the trap. Now they need to redo the surface 'cause it's disgusting looking in-house and aesthetically on television. They need to lay some new carpet down or something. But as an indoor baseball guy, indoor baseball paulson, which you know, my experiences there have always been fantastic. And people are gonna think I'm joning, but truly when I go there, you have room to spread out. - You can sit wherever you want. - You have your own concession stand. You have your own bathroom. Like every time I've, and everyone's like, oh, you're just making fun. I'm not, I've always loved it. If I'm going to the trap in the summer 'cause I'm in Tampa or whatever, I know I'm gonna have an awesome time. It's air conditioned. The food is good and no one else is eating it. It's all for me. - Yeah, you'll see 16 strikeouts. You know, just a bunch of dudes just begging for that two-run home run. - I got a soft spot in my heart for the trap. - It's a dump. They should not have a team. Now, they're good. The organization itself, it's not their fault. They're just run by a bunch of MIT guys that are crunching numbers and, you know, wheeling and dealing every move they make is the right one. They can't afford to have a single bad signing. Whereas the Yankees just sort of like, it just gets chewed up in some sort of, you know, line item. Same with like the Red Sox, Dodgers, et cetera. They compete on one cent for every thousand dollars that the Yankees span, right? So it's not their fault. Those guys do a really good job. But the team should not be there. It's not supported. No one cares about them. It's the worst stadium maybe going in terms of especially in baseball. And it's kind of an embarrassment that the whole thing is, you know, sort of still happening. Now again, it doesn't change that I'm thinking about folks that are suffering and having to deal with things down there, just talking big picture for Major League Baseball. To me, they got a team before us because George Steinbrenner like vacation down there. And does like insisted that that's the spot that you have a team. Well, it's just the whole thing's a joke to me. I'm a big Eric Neander guy. They're general manager. They're really smart. That's a good organization I root for them. Real quick on the commanders and Jaden Daniels, I told you some history in the bounds this weekend. The rookie quarterback, you already know, has thrown for a thousand as a rush for 250. In his first five games, nobody'd ever done that before. If the commanders beat the Ravens, Daniels will be the second rookie at quarterback since 1950 to start and win five of his teams first six games, joining 2006 Dak Prescott with the Cowboys. He can also become the third rookie quarterback in the last eight years to lead his team to a five game winning streak at any point. Mac Jones, seven straight wins with the Patriots in 2021, Brock Purdy with San Francisco and 22 going into the playoffs, won five in a row as well. The commanders have scored at least 30 points in each of their last three games. With 30 points on Sunday, Danny, they will become the second team since 1950 to score 30 or more points in four consecutive games started by a rookie quarterback. They are doing things that nobody's ever been able to do really in the modern era. - Now, I've got, you may be aware of this, actually. I mean, you always have some really good stats and no good information. But I looked this up just to confirm that it was true. You know, Jaden Daniels is the odds on favorite for rookie of the year. - Oh, wow. - Do you believe that? - Right now? - Yeah, right now. - No chance. - He is, so, and I'm just probably anybody else. What is it, five times he's won a rookie of the week, or four times? - I believe four out of five. - Four out of five, yeah. So, you know, at an 80% clip, his odds have gotten a little bit better. Like, he's the, and I'm looking at looking this up, I think he's the, what we call the betting favorite. That's an industry term. It just means that he's now thought of as the most likely person to win rookie of the year. - It's funny you bring that up 'cause I actually want to get into his MVP conversation that everyone keeps having, which I think is a little bit premature. Feels that way to me, but I want to ask that question on the phones and I want to talk to you about it next. Let's open up the MGM National Harbor Listener Lines at 800-636-1067. The Daniels MVP Talk that you're starting to hear nationally more than locally. Feels premature, maybe hyperbolic. Do you agree or do you think it is reasonable? Is it warranted? That's next on Grant and Danny here on The Fan. - The seasons may be changing, but the deals and the sharpest rides are unbeatable as ever. Hey, what's going on? It's your girl, Tasha McKia. 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Or visit your local Toyota dealership today. Toyota, let's go places. I would say if I had to pick one that both of these two are elite competitors. Like at the highest level. And that shows on the tape. You know, the way they extend plays, the way they finish, the way they lead their group. So that's the part. If I was to make a comparison, it would be something intangible like that. Both of them have their own unique ways about them. But in this game, all these guys are fantastic competitors. And then like in most profession, there's the elite and these two guys are elite at it. That was Dan Quinn yesterday out in Ashburn. Commanders getting ready for the Ravens in the most anticipated game of the weekend in the national football league. Welcome back to GND on the fan. We're at Capital One Arena, head of the Caps 50 event. Tonight we're excited to be here. The event's going all evening long. You can get in for $19.74 to commemorate 50 years of Caps Hockey. It'll have 70 alumni and all of the current players here for the various activations and concerts throughout the evening. Including third eye blind going to be rocking behind us here, Danny. That's awesome. I think I can't remember which zims event it was, so they've all run together. That's what I apologize. But one of the first two that I hosted, third eye blind was the headliner. And it poured rain because it was supposed to be out on the field. So we had to kind of move under the concourse so it echoed and the sound wasn't as good. But it was still amazing to see a band who's like, I know their entire catalog. You know, like by adolescence and high school or whatever. They were great even as it was pouring rain around us. There's a lot of people talking, mostly nationally about Jaden Daniels as an MVP candidate right now. And in fact, if you look at the betting odds on NFL MVP as we approach week six, he is crept into the conversation now of top five in that category. At the moment, depending on where you're looking, I'm a fandal guy. He got Patrick Mahomes at plus 230. Josh Allen at nine to one. Lamar Jackson's about six and a half to one. CJ Stroud at six to one. And then of every other player in the league behind those likely MVPs when this thing's all set and done. Mahomes, Allen Jackson Stroud. Jaden Daniels is next on the list at eleven to one ahead of guys like Sam Darnold, Joe Burrow, Brock Purdy, his odds are twice as good as Jared Goughs or Dak Prescott's. So I want to have this conversation. I mean, is this a little bit aggressive for what we've seen so far? Is this a reasonable thing or is it a little bit too early to even be talking about this? Does it seem silly? This is actually really hard because for a betting perspective, a betting market is made to try to get you to bet your money. And I'm not calling that sinister. That's just obvious, right? We're capitalizing on this momentum. The NFL analyst part of it to me is probably premature. Does that make sense? Like in other words, he's been the star. He's been who everybody's talking about. It's now networks are fighting over having Washington on their primetime telecast. Or CBS is using one of their two rejections, black balls to basically be able to keep them at one o'clock instead of having it go towards Sunday night football. So from an analyst perspective, there are too many guys that are going to frankly have more MVP like resumes. The Daniels. This is not to run Daniels down at all. But for example, Joe Burr already has 12 touchdown passes to Daniels is four. Lamar Jackson's got 11 total touchdowns. I think to Daniels is eight and he's eighth in passing or ninth in passing yards, eighth in rushing yards when you combine the two. Josh Allen has had three of his five games be unbelievable. CJ Sprout is going to be the quarterback of a 13 win team in all likelihood, wheeling and dealing in his own right. There are too many names to climb over that are hallmark staples, stars of teams that are bonafide and rhythm really good. So from an analyst perspective, let's just say that guys have an amazing five games. A great rookie here so far. Rookie of the year, but a favorite. You do that MVP thing to try to ramp up the conversation, to stand out in a certain way. From a betting perspective, I get it. Right? Everyone's talking about them. You take people's money. But to me, so that part's not premature. The analyst part of it to me is probably a little bit premature. Does that distinction make sense? Sure, yeah. I mean, the betting market is its own entity and is kind of less significant to the conversation. But when you hear people on national television who are influential, say their MVP right now is Jaden Daniels, you got to kind of pick a side, I guess, which is to say that makes sense or that silly. And I've kind of gone back and forth on this. I'm going to side with it as way too soon for that discussion. Now, someone could say the same thing about the idea that the commanders are going to win the division or the commanders are going to, you know, be Super Bowl contenders. And to that, I would argue, well, they're 4-1. I mean, there's a percentage chance of making the playoffs when you get to 4-1 or winning a division, when you get to 4-1, just because it's a math equation. There's only 17 of these. You've now erased five. We're almost a third of the way through. Whereas in Daniels' case, I don't think the MVP thing plays out the same way. Every single week, the board can change considerably. You could be on the way to winning the MVP, and week 15 have two bad games and lose it because someone else balls out. So I just don't necessarily think it's the same as talking about the team and where they're headed. I think that the Bengals game that he played was as good a quarterback game as anybody's going to have all season. And the fact that that was in prime time is a major driver in all of this. Yeah, it's going to go a long way. I'm with you. I think the Cardinals game was solid. There was nothing wrong with the Cardinals game. It was fine. I mean, statistically, it was really good. He had 26 completions and 30 attempts. That was a less spectacular Jaden Daniels game. There weren't that many plays in that game that were like jaw-dropping only he makes. It was a pretty well-designed offensive plan. I thought the Browns game, the good in that game, Danny, are MVP moments. Yeah, the highlight plays were woes. The escaping the sack for a 66 yard throw. That's an MVP kind of moment. I'm trying to think if there were others. The 34 yard run- Yeah, a fourth of the three when he's dead to right. That's probably an MVP moment. But by and large otherwise, I think it was a very normal quarterbacking game. Even the 41 yard touchdown of the Army, which was a great throw. Most quarterbacks in a clean pocket with an open receiver in the end zone. Drop that into the bucket and throw that touchdown. So, I have a hard time with the MVP thing right now as good as he has been. I think that that is just a bit too soon and a little too much falling in love with the story by people who just want to crown him. And again, this is not the end-all-be-all, but I'm trying to offer a way of example. It sounds like we're knocking Jaden Daniels and I hope it's pretty clear that we're not doing that. The fact that we're even having this conversation is delightful. He's on pace for 14 touchdown passes. Now, that's not going to hold because there's been a lot of, you know, tackled at the ones or you know, Tara McCorn, drop one this past week that goes in there. There's going to be a couple of games where he throws for bunches, but he's got four through five games. Whereas, again, Joe Burrows got three times that amount. Now, I know since that he's about winning games particularly, but certainly not Burrows for all this political decision. You got to add in his rushing touchdowns too. I have. So, he's got eight total in that regard, which again, it doesn't rank anywhere near the top five, six, ten. You're doing them with you. Yeah, so, again, it's not to knock him. This has been wonderful. It continues to be wonderful. I can't wait to see him play again on Sunday. It's must watch. But MVP conversation, it's just, it's because people fall in love with this new thing. Whereas Washington, everyone thought was in one category, myself included by the way, which is the category of badness, of can't get out of their own way, under talented. They're not going anywhere this year. This is maybe clear the deck for a couple seasons from now to this previously more about organization that is nothing but investigations and a travesty. Not only are they out of that bucket, but they're in the bucket of an actual good football team. Allah Houston, who C.J. Stroud last year. People just want to quantify that somehow. And instead of like going through every bit of nuance where, well, you see the Harris group, they redid the one practice field at the facility. Or, you know, they're actually doing a nice job to have people come down on the field in this sort of pregame thing that you can pay extra for with your ticket. Instead of going through every bit of nuance, it's, we got to find some way to celebrate how crazy this is. So again, it was the MVP. And I think that's a little bit over the top. The thing I will say that will bode well for him is, and we've seen this with Lamar Jackson winning a couple of them, deservedly. But, you know, when you're a dual threat who runs around and makes plays, A, it's sexy and it's fun and people like watching it. But voters like watching it too. Yes. And there's this feeling of, and sometimes it's reality, like you are worth more to the offense. Because you don't just throw you also run. And in the case of Lamar and in Jayden Daniels case, I think the running backs getting yards benefit from you, just like the receivers, obviously you're throwing them the ball benefit from you. The whole offense kind of revolves around you. You're the son of the solar system. So I think that's part of why they get pushed a little further into the top of the MVP board than just your traditional passer who's having a really good season. Because they're not as responsible maybe for the run game in the eyes of some people. But I think that's part of why he's now in the top five. But, wanna see where you guys are at on this? I am, I'm just not there yet. And I don't mean it's too early to talk about it, which is probably the case. But like that's not my answer when someone says are they a contender? Because they win the division. I'm not saying it's too early to talk about it. I think there's a little bit of a difference. I don't think it's hypocritical between team and player individually, week to week. But on top of that I would just say, I don't, if I'm putting together a ballot right now, he would not be in the top five for me. He'd probably be really close. But I think that the people that are talking about this are the national folks that are seeing the highlights. And there aren't that many low lights for the record. But yeah, I would say his highlight reel is the best in football at this moment. Which was the entire Cincinnati game, the crazy play he made, couple of them this past week. Like his good is the best. His good is really, really good. Let's go to Danny who's an Ashburn on G&D on the fan. What's up Danny? What's going on guys? How you doing? Good buddy. Listen, hey, listen, first, I just want to get a second to just kind of scratch the surface with you guys right here. And this is, this question is mainly for, for Grant. You say you don't want to get behind, you know, getting behind, you know, Jaden being an MVP man. I mean, when, let's, let's talk about the past 10, 15, 20 years. And when have you seen what he has done? Don't forget, when he came in the league, he said he marked down what, what Stroud did for his, for his first year. And he said he wanted to make sure that he's going to beat every record that he has. This kid comes in four o'clock every morning. This kid comes in, he's a leader, he's confident. He has no fear. He's smart, he throws the ball probably as good as I've seen anybody in the past 15, 20 years. So how can you not get behind somebody that is playing like he's playing? Absolutely. Like, I mean, listen, he's, listen, Grant, listen, Danny, I love you guys with that. But get behind this kid. We appreciate the call. Nobody's not doing that. It's getting behind him. I don't know what that means. We're asking, should he be the MVP of the league right now? That is a different thing. We've done nothing on this show but rave about him and frankly be floored by his performance for a month. Like, now, totally behind it. Let me say this. I think he's going to be an MVP candidate in his career. And this year, I think he's going to be an MVP. Well, you might end up being one. Yeah. The way he's trending. But that's what we're talking about. The idea of like, get behind him. I don't know what that means. Support him and knowledge that he's doing well. Like, I don't know what you're asking for. What I'm asking today is, is he the MVP of the league? Like, people are suggesting. And I'm saying, no, I don't think that's the case yet. If you need me to do that. You said, when is the last time I've been this blown away by a rookie? Well, he's doing things we've never really seen rookies do. Although, I'd point out that last year, at this time, CJ Stroud had seven touchdowns and zero picks and was on his way to a pretty monster season for the Houston Texans. So, I mean, there are occasionally great rookies. That Prescott had a year like that. This looks like it could go down all time. And that is why he, if you're asking me, is he the rookie of the year award front or? No kidding. Yeah, I wouldn't even bet on that because you're not getting any value at this point. But the MVP of the league is different. And I think that's what, that call exemplifies a little bit of what I think what's happening is, like, you can't say anything other than the best thing. Now, whatever the most friendly, nicest, amazing thing is, and it's like, no, no, no. This is amazing and it's incredible and it's awesome. And he's been, as we just said last segment, the fourth, fifth, sixth, best quarterback in football probably to this point. And when that's the case, you're an MVP candidate. But the idea that, well, get behind him. I don't, I don't know what that means. Like, stand behind him in a line. Or like, what do you, what do I need to do? Like, be a cheerleader. Voice, voice your support. And that's the confusion. I feel like every Monday for, for the six thirty, you, you, you got a couple guys waving their pompoms here on this show. But if you're asking me, is he the MVP of the league right now? No, I, I don't think that he is. 800-636-1067, is it too early to have that conversation? That's the question on the fan. [silence] With Danny, I'm Grant. This is the fan. Welcome back. And thanks much for making the show part of your day. The question at hand, Jaden Daniels, MVP candidate. Nationally, you see an analyst come out and say he is their MVP right now. Pretty cool brace with the rookie quarterback who is seemingly playing like the answer here in the nation's capital. Do you think it's too early? Do you think you could make the case that he is the MVP of the NFL right now? I got a text from a buddy during the break and he says I hear you, but who's your MVP? I really haven't thought about that. But as I do, I'm going, well, who would I put on my ballot ahead of Daniels? It's a very small list for the record. Yeah, it's, it's not like a hundred names. Because it's one thing to pick Daniels apart and say, I don't know if he's an MVP because of this, this, this. You could do that with everybody, right? So when you look at it through that perspective, it definitely makes it more a conversation. But I would say CJ Stroud, I would put ahead of him on a ballot right now. I like how he's played for Houston. And that's a really good team and a guy that, I think it has been proven to be kind of less scheme and creation and more. That guy is just awesome. Lamar, I think you could put ahead of him right now. I think he's got nine touchdown and one or two interceptions and running all over the place. We're going to see him this weekend. He's been very good. And without him, the Ravens would be in big, big trouble. That's correct. I'm not a big Sam Darnold MVP guy, but it's hard to argue with a five and 0 team. You know how that, what that does to move the needle and vote. Sure. And it's not, it's like Alex Smith, five and no either. It's not like he's just checking it down. He's made some, some great plays. Now he was much worse this past week. Yes, he was. And I think he's going to fall off. But if the MVP award was doled out today, 103 rating, 11 tuddies and four interceptions, 1100 yards, eight yards per attempt on an offense that's hummed and hasn't lost. He'd be up there. And then I know this sounds silly because he just hasn't played that well. But Patrick Mahomes, they are giving the ball right now to a running back that was on the street two weeks ago. And their number one receiver this past week was cut because he couldn't make it for the Patriots. And they're still winning and Mahomes is still putting up 300 yards this past week. And they're still making it work. So, sorry. I mean, he's, he's got to be there. He's got to be in those, that would be my shortlist. And then it's wide open. I really like the way Gino's playing. We'll see him tonight. I love the way Jaden Daniels is playing. We'll obviously be seeing a lot of him. Yeah, I think it's all fair. I mean, Mahomes is someone I bet on more so than I would say should be ahead of Daniels right now on my ballot, if that makes sense. Like six touchdown, six picks at this point from Mahomes. It's, it's, they're five and no, he's still the best quarterback in the world. If I'm starting my team tomorrow, I'm still picking him. Right? Nothing has changed in that regard. But in terms of blind ballot style, the resume for this year, I put Daniels ahead, but that's- Like he's played better, you're saying. Yeah, but that's what I get. But again, I'm trying to figure out- But that's what we're talking about. Totally. Four and one versus five and no is not a big difference, but they're five and no because of Patrick Mahomes and their running back was available to be signed 10 days ago. And their leading receiver this past week was the sixth receiver for the Patriots. You're not going to tell me it's not impressive. Like, I won't be hearing that, but just in terms of this particular word, I'd still include Josh Allen. I know he had a terrible week this past week, but you look at the overall numbers, you know, I think it's 11 or 12 total touchdowns, no interceptions that without him, Buffalo is the group that are sitting right here at Cap Warner right now. Allen, before two games ago after three weeks, was my, I think he had played the best quarterback in the league to that point. And they were three and now. Now, let's go to the phones that Gary's in Fairfax on G and D. Gary, is it too early for the national dialogue and the discourse on Daniels as an MVP? Hey, good afternoon, guys, buddy, Danny, you were funny, dude. Boy, you're a sweetheart. Thank you. Hey, look, I could argue for him just based on the fact that, all right, this is like a straw poll type thing that they do every year, right, at the, at probably at the quarter mark of the season halfway through the season, three quarters and so on. So right now at the quarter point of the season, I don't care what position we were talking about, but does anybody, has anybody else been voted, you know, quarterback? You broke up, but I'm guessing, thank you for the call. You were saying four out of five weeks. I mean, it's not that he's been voted quarterback of the week though, he's been voted rookie of the week. So that's just saying of all the rookies and football, he's been better. It's not to take away. I mean, guys been utterly dominant and look, the way he just said it is kind of interesting. I think there's a point to be had here. When we look at this and say, ah, seems crazy, seems too soon, we're basing it on that one rookie since 1950 has ever won the MVP, it doesn't happen and it's not going to happen. But he's saying, if you gave out an MVP for the first five weeks of the season, that's all he's saying. If you gave out an MVP right now for the first five weeks of the season, would it be crazy if he won the award? And the answer to that is absolutely not correct. So maybe it isn't too early to have this. And that's, I haven't made a very good job of making that point, but that is absolutely the point here is that this is not crazy talk. Like it's not, stop it. It's not like you had one good quarter or one good drive, everyone's going, don't you have a VP like settle down, you know, while Homer Simpson, but this is, the fact is there is a legitimate conversation. We started the show with this. The third team has said, this is the number one quarterback who has played the best this year. Yeah. Janos is number one. That's not insane. You could say, well, that's probably, he's probably third. Actually, you know, he posted before, here's why I don't care. We have one of the things we have the thing that every other team, including mine for decades is jealous of and desirous of, like it's here right now. And you know what I got to keep figuring out for me is I am such a data driven, numbers driven guy that you lose sometimes like the plays over the stats, the plays over the numbers. Jaden Daniels has incredible numbers too. 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