Seated With Lebo and Thato Rampedi
TOXIC FRIENDSHIPS and HABITS : Know When to Walk Away!
So what's up, what's going on, welcome back to a brand new episode of Seated with Leuwen Tata and Betty, Chief, yeah, how are you chief in the room, we've got 32.0 which is crazy. Yeah, he's like literally, yeah, literally the first episode known as Mike, he was meeting Betty Lucas so he's like, he walked so we could run, what's the thing, I need, but if you guys don't know, he used to be one of my co-hosts three years ago with my other friend Lucas who goes by cat now, but yeah, that was been saying this chief thing because he hasn't watched podcast and he thought I don't watch podcast in whole, but I started watching like, oh, so I did, I did like a, because I said to myself, I want to be a bit of podcast that, and I said to myself, okay, let me watch every popular, that African podcast. So I was, I'm not going to say the names, but no, no, no, see, no, it's podcast, it's called open chats now. So I watched open chats, open chats, open chats like that podcast then, I don't know if you guys know it, but it's literally like, these, they are the most freest bros. Chief, chief, chief, did you operate ahead, chief, chief, you're smiling today, did you operate somebody? Nobody, something, but I watch them and guys, by the way, I'm watching all of them to like get research to see what, what do people react most to, et cetera, in a podcast, et cetera. Um, very, very funny stuff, very shout out to them, et cetera, I, I could never do that type of content. Yeah, they brave, man. But you guys are brave. I, I mean, it makes sense because being brave comes with views. Yeah. Like, that's what I've noticed. But you see what that one is like, I wonder how monetizable it is in the long, in the long run, when it comes to brand affiliations, when it comes to the gym, but the one hand on that podcast, she said that like, that was a snippet. You don't watch the whole thing. And she said, what, when she was saying, 15 breaks or something, you saw that thing. Those things, they're, they're, anyway, we don't speak about those things yet, guys, but anyways, yeah, sorry. Yeah. How are you? Yeah. What, what are we talking about today? Actually. Oh, yes. Got it. My turn. Um, before we go into how are you, um, today's podcast theme, guys, I have no idea. The theme is facing the decision to let go of something and then we're going to go into our agenda, which is obviously letting go of rotten habits are the friends you have now going to become the friends you want later in life. How we deal with the loss of things that make us happy in order to achieve our dreams. And what did we have to do to get to where we are right now? Yeah. Yeah. Like, oh, I was having this conversation of someone, uh, let me not say someone because the person, when I say someone on the podcast, someone tells me, someone else tells me that when you say someone on the podcast, let me talk about a girl and you say, uh, he's talking to my boys. Say my boys. Yeah. I'll talk to my boys. And we were talking about, um, the interesting thing of how like your future self is the death of your present self. So you have to let go of things that you like really, really enjoy. Yeah. Such as like, for example, it can be something simple as drinking, for example. And like I thought that we speak about that and speak about, um, different things, but before get into it, this question is, how are you? We didn't do this last time, bro. Yeah. I saw the conversation. Yeah. We're so sorry, guys. We didn't do the, how are you? I think it was actually my fault. Yeah. And then episode I was so fixated on like, oh, that structure, like what we're speaking about. I wasn't too bad though, but I kept checking my phone to see like, okay, where are we? Yeah. Because I just felt like so much pressure to have a good episode. But, ah, man, I'm good, man. Yeah. Hey, I'm trying to think how am I good, like, yeah, we're doing something very exciting. I'm opening up a studio, guys. So I'm opening up a creative center for content creators to basically, you know, create the level they want to. I think one thing you guys have seen that I really appreciate and love doing is like creating a high quality. And I want to make that quality accessible to young creatives or make the quality accessible to old creatives just for everyone, man. And the point of it is to enable you guys to create content, to learn how to create that level, but also make content creation sustainable because my biggest goal, like when it comes to everything that I do, is not for me to get it right, but to get it right for myself so that I can show other people how to do it. Yeah. That's been my dream for the past couple of years. You guys have seen with the e-book, I'm constantly speaking about content. I'm constantly taking up mentees, I'm watching a mental people. So for me, this is all for me to crack the code so I can make young black people successful when it comes to content and help you guys eat. Like everything I do and I try, it's not for myself, it's for my peers and the ecosystem. Yeah. So yeah, I'm sorry for the people that do for excellence. By the way, for us guys, I think there's the same line, this is at the end, I don't do this for me. It's okay, it also adds on to you, you know. Honestly speaking, I don't do it for me because like, let me tell why I say that, man. Yeah. I feel like in life, I understand that like the more work you do, the more complicated your life is, the less free time you have. You can choose to live at a salary of the sake of just 20K a month. You can say 20K a month is enough for me, for the wife, for the kids, I live at this level of life, but I've got this much free time. We need to accelerate it from 20 to 40, from 40 to 80, 80 to 120, and it takes away from your time because you're responsible for so many things. Yeah. So I could have easily tapped out at whatever number I was comfortable at, but it's like, you know what, let me try, do more so that I can teach the kids that are doing it. That's how to make content creation sustainable, because I feel like the whole ecosystem is so messed up, bro. Like people have been taking advantage of people that don't understand, there's lack of resources. And if we come together, we come together like we did with ASM, like we mentored the other blues that have left us now, we can do a lot of change. No, we've mentored people that have forgotten that we have been so sick. No, no, you mentored them. We've mentored people, you people have come and go and she's, it's not easy, she's not easy listening, but that's good, that's good. Yeah. How about that? Life is also good, man. Yeah. Happy. You know, when you can't speak about it at the beginning, you're happy, like I'm happy. Yeah, I'm happy. Good. Yeah. Thank you to the people that are making me happy. Yeah. Shout out to them. Shout out to them. They them, yeah. Oh. Shout out to peasants. Yeah. Yeah. Life is good, bro. Community is also like absolutely lovely. You still bowl every single Wednesday. Also, like we're trying new things with dibbling and dabbling, I don't know if you guys can see on this keeper, but this is like something that we're trying to create, but like it's a king. What's the word? Prototype. Prototype, but this is literally seated with a match, guys, so. Yeah. It literally says seated with the bottom. Look at that. Aye. It was in my room, by the way. Aye. You guys seeing this? So we're trying to play with chairs and you know, trying to see if you put in the French, you put in the back. So I'm sure you guys will be seeing with a bunch of different variations of like this potential merch, then maybe we might launch, we don't know if you guys are interested, comment down below. It's tech seated, I guess. It's tech seated. Oh, but yeah. That's all I feel like, bro. Things are good. Yeah. Mommy paid me my commission. Like my influencers are paying me, which is dope. Oh, yes. So it's like, yeah. Happy. Anyway, been talking. How are you? Oh, how am I? I'm okay. Very hectic time. I'm going to summarize. I don't think I'm feeling a lot of things. I'm fine. I'm really, I'm fine. Life is not bad and life is not amazing, but life is also like, it's, it's, it's, it's feeling good, but it's also just always goes left, right, left, right, like goes into the, the, the, the, the bad side of life and then comes back out. But I'm, I'm okay. Like I'm surviving. I'm hustling, dog. I mean, my hustle face for real. Yeah. How's it, how's it been transitioning from guaranteed salary to? Yeah. This was, I think this was, this month was my first month, not receiving like a, like a salary. I think, yeah, it was my first month receiving a salary or last month was. But I will say, oh, staff, man, all of a sudden, all of a sudden, I get, I hit the prices at the stores. Now I'm reading it. I'm reading milk is this much now he's just taking a nursing movement. But does the nook need a name? Does the nook need a name? Does my wittbeaks need a name, it does not need a name. So we get the no names now, but I'm hustling, dog, like I'm on my grind. It's good. Um, we're signing contracts, you know, we pushing, we increase, I increase my management team as well. Um, you know, working more professionally posting higher quality content and, you know, we're trying to make sure that, you know, us as well, myself, excuse me, myself as an influencer is presenting best products to clients when we approach and et cetera, which is a very good thing for my part. Like, I try to give them the crispiest, best content I can, whereas in the boss, it used to be like, you know what, let me just make my money and just getting it done. Yeah. But now I'm really, really like trying to be intentional about it and intentional amount of content. And it's really, I think the other day, I told you, like, I was like, yo, um, like, dude, you know, to her today, 5,000 people such my name, and I showed on TikTok, I was like, yo, 5,000 people such my name, it's like a thing on our screen. It's crazy. Yeah. She's like, I was like 5,000 people. And so it's my name today. Mm. So you're on 5,000. I was like, yo, like, cause you said it's one thing to like, you know, one thing to see. Yeah. Like one thing to follow level and look at his content, but to be like, Hey, labor on pay. That's crazy. To be like, yo, labor on pity. Yeah, you want, you want 5,000 people's minds. Yeah. So that, that was really lit. Um, but to be fair, like I posted like three bangs that day, yeah. Yes. I forget to achieve. I don't know. I'm convinced if we say chief a hundred times, I might get a new follower. It's impossible. I don't know. Let's operate. I don't know. I'm just. Yeah. But I'm okay. Am I like, business is all that I can think about. Of course. Um, survival mode. Yes. I, I don't, I hate using the words survive. It's a very deep thing. Every day, we shouldn't have survived. It's the truth. I think I'm trying to uplift. I'm not surviving, baby. The uplifting. I'm uplifting. I'm not surviving. I'm not surviving. The uplifting the youth. I'm not surviving. I was thinking innocent yesterday, man. No, I'm just saying, when we speak surviving, we say, Hey, there's no one on the 10th. You know, like just this guy like one unit left, but I'm not surviving. I'm trying to uplift my lifestyle and trying to like upgrade myself and be a better consecrator, have more followers, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. Yeah, that's me. Yeah, but let's get straight into the podcast, guys. Um, before we even start here, you've had a journey, right? It's like you picked up a camera. So the other day actually on your Instagram, um, at Twitter and Biddy, you were saying, like you posted, I think it was your first YouTube video. Yeah. Like snippets of like, my favorite pieces. Yeah. Like your favorite piece has been like, I think it's six years ago. Yeah. So the first video I posted was seven years ago. Yeah. And then I posted season four of looking from Jolo, I posted on YouTube then, I posted a documentary that I shot in Lompopo, yeah, and then I posted our collab with Stella. Oh, yeah. So huge portfolio, a lot of success, a lot of, um, you know, going up the ladder. And I think that a lot of people face difficulty with letting go in order to get to their success point, which is how I call it the success point for this podcast, right? Let them go. Uh, and, and that's the question I was literally about to ask you, what things do you think that you had to let go or to be where you are now to have the level of scale that you had now? That's such a crazy question. Because I was thinking about it for myself in my career in terms of like, um, my jobs that I've had, like the craze I've had, like, in terms of in the corporate space, and as well as a content creator. Yeah. And I started deep in outside, you know, that I actually let go of like a lot. A lot, bro. Like we used to go to like Pretoria, like every week, I don't know, you know, and you know this stuff. We used to go to Pretoria every weekend, um, during the week, we would barely link up. It'd be nothing. There's nothing productive happening during the week. Like it'd be like work only. I'm talking about my content life now. Yeah. I'd be working as well. I'm realizing I was like, no, dude, you actually had to let go of a lot of people. Yeah. A lot of money. That's also another team. Yeah. And a lot of you have to let go. A lot of money guys. You want to reach us at six point? Yeah. Am I wrong? No, it's true. It's true. Okay. Can I pick it from there? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think I want to throw it back to 2021, my first year working in the content space full time. Recent graduate, first thing I had to let go of was my entire degree. I studied to become an engineer that had to go. Yeah. And then I had to let go of potential work opportunities. I had a bank saying, hey, we can give you 35K. How much is it? It was different from 40K a month. They were like, yo, you didn't get into the graduate program, but we can give you like a position based off of just the fact that you show entrepreneurial skills because you do those content stuff and your degree is very powerful in the banking sector. I had to let go of that. Then from there, I was living at home, I was living at home with my parents. Were you there? You weren't there? I was in the home of my parents. So I had to let go of my... Let's freedom. My freedom. Yeah. So my space, that had to be let go. So many friends as the year progressed because I then was like, I was given a grant by YouTube. Right? Oh, and the grant comes with YouTube, bro. You're getting enough money for the year to do whatever you want to do. So if I take a job, basically, you know, basically get your salary for the year in January. So now my cash flow is insane. I have no responsibilities. So now I start to see friends that are not necessarily good for you. So now you have to either let them continue being bad for you or you have to let them go. So I have to let go of a lot of friends too. I have to let go of also like relationships also because it's like, and this sounds crazy. This even happened in 2023. When you're working to, because I know you don't like the words of life now, but I can't fail. I'm working to survive. So when you're working to survive and you can't see failure, you don't prioritize things like relationships anymore. You start prioritizing things like love anymore. You start prioritizing friendship. You start prioritizing family. And it's because it's like, yo, I can go to the family function or I can work and I can try to elevate this thing. I can take my goal on a date or I can network and go to this event where maybe I'm a robot boy and I've seen a robot boy's been working with San City and maybe he can correct me, but obviously I need to get to know robot boy first. So it's like, you let go of a lot of like a lot of things in the beginning, bro. And then as you progress, you start letting go of like who you are. And like when I say we are, I want to describe a better, like you let go of your honest humanity, humanity is a bad word, but my license died. So I used to be someone where like, if you need help with content with the work with the what what, I put you first almost immediately. Then as you grow all these stuff, guys, and every time you help this person with this content piece, or this person needs advice and you'll find every DM and you should not uplift everybody and try to help this friend, that friend, this sister, the brother, it's you're always pouring into people's cups. And it's like, I had made that into a habit of just always pouring into other people. Try to let go that accessibility people had to me also, which is also very painful because it's like, I enjoy helping people, I enjoy, you know, doing those things. So those are some of the things I had to let go of. I think definitely there's a there's a huge link between learning and letting go because I think we progress in our lives and we discover identities, we discover direction and we learn what is necessary of us. And then we say to ourselves, okay, what do I have to let go? And in your case study, you know, links with like our next team basically is letting go of a rotten habit. And I thought I. What do you get to go off? Oh, yeah. I think for me, if I had to answer the question, I definitely think mental health has always been like my number one, I want to say like my number one success resistance thing like I don't know explain that like success resistance like it makes me it's it's my mental office the reason I am not where I want to be now. Oh, it resists your success. Yes, it resists my success. And one thing that I had to let go of you've had mental health problems, see? For a long time. Like, because I say it because you've spoken about it, but this guy has had like a lot of men's like high school, first year, second year, when I was a kid, I did therapy was a kid. I did physical therapy was a kid and I did in high school, I had gang mental health issues and I did therapy when I was in university. And then after university, I had again gang mental health issues and then boom. And now for like three years now, I can say confidently, like I've been like quite stable. Yeah, you've been, you've been good for two years, like two years, three years have been quite stable. But one thing I had to let go of in order to become who I am now is letting go of the perception of negativity that I had on myself. Like this is something that I think a lot of people relate to. We are all our worst enemies, which is so crazy because at the start of the day, you determine the love that you get in the beginning of your day. And that mindset change that I had of like saying, okay, dude, like this is actually your life. This is actually something you should be grateful for. This is something that like, like it all stopped when I was driving and I was like suicidal out of my mind. Like I was like, oh, I'm going to end my life. I hate my life. And I saw a brew selling sunglasses and a hat and it comes and says, I'm like, I don't have money. You know, you don't think you do your clothes doing the thing, you know, like a shop. Now, all of a sudden you do a sign language, yeah. And I thought to myself, dude, every single day, there are people that wake up who have less than you, they have way less than you. Yeah. And they don't give up on themselves. Yeah. And it goes to a story my dad told me, or no, not my dad actually. It's actually, I think Trevor knows that you want to interview or something like that. I don't know if it's my dad or Trevor. A gold, by the way. Yeah. But he said gold. He knew an artist, that guy would travel around Paris. He paints and all these things, lived in luxury drive, the fastest car. And he knew a guy, man. And he worked at like a game or something like that. And he had the worst time ever, like he was just like, he had lost everything, his wife left him. He didn't get ownership of his kid. I know he worked at like a shoe place, where they put shoes on him, like what is it called? Like a sports team, basically. And he put shoes on people and stuff and everything. And he had studied law and everything, he wanted to get married young, so he lost everything to the wife and et cetera. And he was still alive. The guy that was in Paris traveling, what about a he committed suicide? And the whole thing about this was that, dude, life is what you perceive. Like your life is what you perceive it to be like, which is a very, very difficult, difficult, difficult conversation. Yeah. But yeah. It's fine. All those cuts. But yeah. That's what I learned. That's why I let go. Yeah, dude. Let me, but yeah, let me, I wanted to actually define habits in order to like, like give us a basis of where we're going in this podcast. But habits are repetitive actions or behaviors that become automatic over time, often triggered by specific context or cues. And keep in mind habits, habits can be good and bad. Yeah. Like, for example, jimming, if you jimming every day, that's a good habit. But smoking is obviously like a very like bad habits, for example, right? Distinguishing which habits we should keep and which habits we should let go of is something that like, I think people obviously like struggle with. What do you think you did in order to establish, okay, this is a good habit, this is a bad habit. I don't, I don't think we, I don't think we struggle to establish what's a good or bad habits. Yeah. I'm not talking about like the normal ones, like smoking, drinking, grooving. Talking about the, the, the, the small ones, like for example, you wake up and you don't make your bed that affects your day, or you, um, I'm trying to give you like examples or your phones always dead, but like people need to contact you type of bad habits. You know what I'm saying? That we need to like, that might not be identified or might be hindering you from opportunity, et cetera, et cetera. Oh, so, okay. So I hear you basically saying there's habits that we do, which basically self, they, they, they, they are bad for us. Yes. So we're not aware of the fact that they bad habits and they impact. Yes. So we're not seeing the impact of these, these unseen habits. Yes. So you asked, give me what are some of the habits that have discovered me? Like how do you, how did you identify that? And like you can even name some of the habits. Yeah. I'm trying to think of the habits. So for me, like cleanliness was the biggest thing. Yeah. Like I remember, I only used to, not that I'm a dirty person, I was a messy person. Wow. So I would always really pack up and stuff when I had like my girlfriend coming over, or if I had like a friend coming over. Like if I was in isolation of, I was alone for five days, like I had jackets everywhere, shoes everywhere. Yeah. And it was extremely messy. Yeah. And I didn't realize that that mess was an indicator of like my current mental state, maybe fatigue, or I wasn't even sure about the impact of it preventing productivity. Which it does. Which it does. Cause like, even if it's not even a state of like bad men's or half or whatever, it could just be you're just a messy brew, but that mess is like it's preventing you from being really productive. It actually, it affects your like, your aura that day, like affects your like guys, a messy space. And I think especially for people, ever since COVID happened, I guess, people work at home now. So our home spaces are also the places that we occupy like in terms of for work. And I can guarantee you a messy place, it does not help with productivity. It's hard to work. When you still have conditions in the sink, your flow is not as a mess. There's a hoodie on the chair and we will have that chair, you know, people make those chairs in university and they just throw all their clothes on that one chair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Another bad habit. You know, when I told us, leaving your mind, but just gonna grab it, another bad habit for me is not prioritizing my cleaning list and like the food that I eat in an excuse of I have to get this done. So for example, I'll have many deliverables at work even back in university. I mean, think about exams season for anybody. It's like exams season. I don't have to take out. Take out. Take out. Take out. Yeah. And that's a bad habit because if we were in university and we prioritized that extra hour on getting good nutrients into the body, it was going to be a better study session. Probably would have slept that way. Yeah. Even if I, if I had to, like, you know, a bad habit is me waking up late, being sluggish, taking a shower. Yeah. And laziness is a big one that I think people have, which is often linked to procrastination. Yeah. Procrastination is like one of the bad habits that like a lot of people have. I procrastinate guys, but I've watched this TikTok about this thing saying like, anything you think you're going to do is probably going to take you less than 30 minutes. Yeah. So time perspective is like very good. So if you've seen dishes in your sink right now, put on the airport and go, go, go, oh, they're volcanoes, you don't discriminate yet, you know, they don't discriminate from Bluetooth devices. Yeah. But you know, you know, you know, what procrastination made me what I think it made me into a good manager. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Because I always procrastinate work because I don't like doing it. So now I've found people to do the work that I don't want to do for me. I think every good entrepreneur is lazy. Yeah. Every good entrepreneur at heart is extremely lazy, but they have a good work ethic. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I always link to. Also, you need to know, like you need to know your work style here. Some people are meant to be managers and delegates and some people are meant to be generate like, you know, pushing the workforce. So me naturally, I think I'm also going to be a manager because maybe I'm just good at managing. So I prefer to have a team and then I'm like, guys, who you're comfortable in, maybe push the ship. But now if I didn't identify that I prefer being a manager versus someone that's like an expert in coding or something, I would not have a happy life. So that's one thing people need to understand that you should know from a very young age at the university or high school, what role do you prefer doing? Do you want to be an expert and be the best coder, be the best forecaster, you know, be the best pianist or do you want to be someone who's a conductor and helps the piano come alive with the violin and creates a beautiful piece of music. That's the thing about life, bro, guys. Like this thing bangs like, and this is coming from someone like, like as stated in the podcast earlier, who has like struggled with mental health for me to say that out loud, it has taken a lot of life. You can literally become anything you want, bro, at any time based on your means based on your space. You know, Loki, you can become anything you want. If you put enough time, effort, I promise you, you can literally become, I could literally say to myself, now let me become an artist, like a painter, watch, I can do it too much. And I'm telling you, like, obviously, I'm being very like romanticizing it, but it is a reality. There's so many different ways to live life. But what's the concept? 10,000 hours? Like if you put 10,000 hours into anything, you can become, wait, you hear this? You're good at it. That's 10,000 hours. Isn't that like a, there's a song called 10,000? No, man. Like I know like a lot of rappers will be like, yeah, boy, I've been pushing your, you know, when you get to 10,000 hours of doing something, then you've done it. Us there, us, us series there. How many hours do you think? No, it's called 100 seconds. You know this song. I'm going to get us copyrighted. I know, five seconds. So, so did you have series? Hey, Siri. Do I have series? Thank you. It's enabled. Is it enabled? Hey, Siri. It's not responding. Hi, Siri. I mean, my series British, so like, I have to do like an accent. Anyway, because you're AI, look at this guy, I'm comfortable, this guy is with me holding his phone. He's shaking. I don't like having to hold my phone like, what's on their phone? Hi, Siri. Hey, Siri. So your series is not enabled. There it is. I told you this is a bit British in it. Siri. How many days are they in 10,000 hours? Yeah. How many? Yeah. So 10,000 hours. So basically, if you do something for 417 days, you should be, you can be. I see that question. Say if I do. Hey, Siri. How many hours does it take for me to master any skill? Skills depend. I'm very, very serious. Yeah. It takes 20 hours, not 10,000 hours during a skill. So this is a 10,000 hour. Well, I wanted to actually tell you guys about a TikTok. I think it was an Oscar wild quote, right? But he basically said, I feel bad for people who know what they want to do for the rest of their lives, because they have now denied themselves all the flavors that life has to offer. He says that the person who doesn't know what to do with their life is constantly rediscovering themselves and constantly finding new ways to love their own journey. That's not how it looks. That's, I know that's not how it looks. That's not how it looks. That's the thing. When you don't know that he's not, it's very one sided view. It's a, it's a, you don't think of it short term, you know, but your whole life. No, but like the actual state, actual feeling of state that you're in is not like that. When you don't know what you're going to be in life, you feel confused, you feel lost, like of course you'll try this thing, you'll try that thing, but you feel like everything you do, like you feel like nothing you do is enough. But the, but the ability to imagine you just said, I just want to be a doctor and that's that. Like, how, like, people, do you ever watch, um, no, that took us off. Do you ever watch COS and be like, Oh, no, when I was like 30, I was a waiter at some like tiny place and it's like, Oh, no, I told me this, this, this, people lose out on real life experiences because they know what they're going to do from the beginning of time. It's a truth, bro. Am I spinning? My guy is kicking his fingers off camera. No, you guys kicking back home. Well, you guys will decide. You guys will decide. No, man, I feel like we, we always romanticize the counterpart of any situation. Yeah. Right. So for example, now it's like, Oh, you choose the one you want to be in life and sticking to that. You rubbing yourself off, you know, of the world and adventure and when you go live in the adventure and throw, it's not an adventure and throw, you felt there's no purpose. You feel lost. You feel alone. Everything you doesn't feel like it's tough enough. The same way, you know, you can say, like, Oh, no, when I graduated, uh, graduate program that offered me 40,000. I said, Nah, man, cause you knew what you're going to do. There are people that will be like, Hey, you know what? I'm actually not sure. Let me try the 40,000 and find out that they, that, that life would never suit them. You just knew. Do you understand how like, um, it's a different type of experience. The life experience of getting that job, going 95 every day and saying, you know, I actually hate this thing. And then going into your, the space that you occupy now, that's ever so motivating. Is it not? Whereas just going straight into it. The, I don't know if I'm making sense. I'm saying there's a, that's, that's, that's beauty in the journey, man. That's different. Yeah. That's when J called, called being broke. Nice. He said, there's beauty in the struggle. Look at beauty. Beauty. Beauty. It's like the, I think they are saying something else. They are speaking about like following your purpose. Yeah. Cause the ideology that you gave in it, cause I agree with the following your purpose day. And like, you know, study it and, you know, do it your hard ones. It's powerful to follow what your heart desires. I agree with that. But I'm saying the way that person is describing, not sticking to one thing, it's not how it actually feels like, do you know what I'm saying? Like he's saying, no, you shouldn't just choose to be an expert in your field. Just live life and try this, try that, try gaming, try this thing. That's very, that's very confusing and you're not, nothing fulfills you because you do two percent of everything. You'll go and hike and you'll say, me, I want to be the best hike on the world. You do two percent, you're like, ah, fuck it failed. Don't you forget about it. Don't you say, let me try be a sprinter, sprinting fails. Don't you say, let me try to do triple jump, triple jump fails, you feel like you've never, you feel like you've never achieved anything. But you're looking at this, is it half empty, half full? You know, the ability, the ability to try many things is also in itself a privilege. You feel me? You don't have to experience all things life has to offer. Guys, life doesn't have to be a single route, graduate, get a job, go and die. You can get a job, you can travel to Greece, be homeless in Greece, come back to South Africa, be regions of Africa, go to, I'm saying like, yeah, there is, there is beauty in choice. I agree with that. Yeah. But I want us to play a game. Um, this one's a bit of far oldies that listen to the podcast, yeah, I call you old. Um, it's called, would you keep it or let it go at 30? Now, you're 27, you're three years to go to 30, um, you have five seconds to say, let go or keep. Two and a half years. I think I'm 30. At 30. Keep in mind. We've got a couple of things. Let go. Keep, we'll go one by one. We have five seconds. Club. Keep up. Keep. Okay. I'm a piano. Like, it'll be that brilliant. Listen. I'm a piano 30. Yeah, I keep. Keep. Okay. Dating. Let go. Let go. It'll be made it hopefully. Ranting. Let go. Let go. There we go. Amen. In the name of Jesus Christ. Smoking anything. We're talking hardly cigarettes, um, grass, um, funny grass, welcoming grass with you. Let go. Okay. And of course the last, last one that I've said, um, debit card. I don't know. I said that. I think it was like a type of debit card. Because you know how people move on to private wealth. So, and then so you're going to still keep the same bank account that you have now, or you're going to move on to whatever is it, because guys, by the way, the bank is very smart. They've picked black people in this country to thinking if we give you more bank services, you are more luxurious than the nose of every cat. You understand how insane that is? Yeah. That's insane. If we actually do our jobs as a bank and guide you, we'll give you a card, but pay us extra. How does that make sense? But anyways, yeah, but, uh, yeah, that's basically the game. I hope you guys enjoyed that. But I moved towards private law because of his benefits. Yes, they have you. It's benefits and I live with my lifestyle. Yes. Yes. Yes. But a lot of people get it for the color of the cash show me why it's black now. You're still using gold, you know, uh, but, uh, but moving on to the note, like something we talked about there, banks actually saw Mr. Ape because I worked in the banking sector. You guys, I wish I could say, um, like banks, banks have the ability to truly position us as individuals in the best financial direction, best of what we earn. As an economy. Yeah. So like, for example, if I earn 7,000 a month, yeah, the banks should play systems, which guide me on tato t, the 7,000, give us one, reinvest this by grocery, some, like the bank can really guide you guys, guys, but I think they are winning from our, um, guys, local financial. The bank. Let me, let me break it down to you guys. The bank is one huge bank. They're taking advantage of us guys. I wish you guys knew how much these people. So let me place a little bit of education, right? I didn't mean when you give money to the bank. Okay. That's the bank's asset that I've made money. Oh, no, no, no. Sorry. I'm doing it the wrong way. You have money to the bank. That is the bank's credit. Like, I owe this money to people now. The bank owes the money that we put in the bank. The bank owes to us. So it's like, it's a credit for them like that. But the amount of credit they give out to South Africans is an asset because I agree, you know, this person's going to pay you per month of installment. Yeah. One, two, three, four. And by the way, like the bank, the government work very closely together. The bank and private sector very closely. We have to start our money. So you tell me, there's a place where the government and the private sector keep everything. This is capitalism at its peak. And they make all the traces of rates, how much money we pay for our cards, everything like that. And we just give them money. Keep mine. You guys see on your phones and you see your bank balance. You say, uh, whatever, let's say it's a 10,000, you see 10,000, right? You're thinking to yourself that money is there. The bank can fail. Yes. The banks have failed before. We've had Bank of Africa fail. I think it was Bank of Africa or something like that failed, I don't know if it was Bank of Africa. It was actually something else. It was in South Africa. I want to say, I want to say city bank or something like what is it, huh? I think it was African bank. Yes. Yes. Yes, yes. Banks banks can fail guys. And if the bank fails, tell me now instead of bank closes today, what are you going to do? Are you guys already sets a limit amount? So let's say in your account, there's 10,000 ran. If the bank decides today to say, okay, guys, we've now made a loss. We are closing the bank. You are only in short up to maybe a thousand of 500. It has happened in countries all around the world where banks fail and the economy just collapses. These will have so much power. That is why the CEO gets paid. What is it? Is it a middle of the day or is it 17 million ran a day? What's that anyways? Yeah. That's my banking rent. I worked in the bank. So I have a lot of consent and a lot of money gets misplace. I don't understand. That's all I'm going to say. Oh, no, no. Is he holding me there? He's saying. Hold me there. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. I'll just speak here. I'm listening to you very attentively because I'm like, this guy cannot breach his NDA. Yeah, but everything you said was general. No, but those things really do happen in banks as a whole like money does get in this place. There's a lot of things they control the economy. They control the direction of the economy. They control how much the economy has and et cetera. Because banks are so selfish that they don't even want to bank only South Africa. They also bank people outside the country. So they have so much control. So like, I forget you have an economics degree. Hey. Same. All right. Do you want me to say something else? Same. I also forget. I also forget. Let's talk about this podcast. I'm sorry. Yeah. You're right. I'm sorry. Yeah. Hold on. Okay. I'm sorry. Keep on taking it. Yeah. Okay. Clamp. No, no, no. I'm going to give you new ones. Okay. Yeah. Goes below 25. It's fine. I don't want to die before my partner. I don't want to die before my partner. I don't want to die before my partner. Keep on taking it. Let's go. You don't go. You don't go. Keep on taking. I don't know if I'm a sweet question right now. No. Let's go. Let's go. Okay. Creating TikToks. Keep. I'm so sorry now, but creating TikToks is definitely for people in the 80s. I think when you go to the 80s, like, I don't know. Go to that doctor. That's married. People make content. I think the content type isn't primo older than 30. Isn't it like 29? Yeah. It's time, Chief. People say it's like a good, like, 40 years for making content properly. Look at Pop's. Exactly. I'm not saying Pop's is old. No, no. Pop's not making TikToks like this. How old is Pop's? Searching Pop's. Leave that. I think it's 37. Go to TikTok. Okay. What's the meaning of his age? It's insane. No, no. There's noise. He's names. He's Asian. Sorry. You got it on. Let me see. Hey. You huge. Pop. Give us a photo. There's movies. TV. You huge. It's 37. Pop's is in a movie. Or 47. Or 37. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think. Like, I don't know. I'm just being weird. They get an age where your content type needs to elevate me. Yeah. Like, the TikToks you're making, you should not be making a 30. I shouldn't even be going live at 30. We can go live. But it's like, I don't know. Like, and I'm not saying you have to come through with value and everything. Can you imagine someone like, like, ghost could be going live at like 30 in his campaign? Or like 45 in his campaign? A lot of you have been speaking on my name type shit. And you've had enough. I did indeed not have, but that is bad. But today, yes. Yeah. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you. The new video is coming out next week. Uh huh. Yeah. Type shit. Ooh. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. Like, even if you look at me, I'm the perfect case study. You guys to be loud. So you think, as Magita's dead in three years, like, we're dying? As Magita's very palatable. We can do it in our 30s. We can do it in our 30s. Very palatable. People do go challenge late. For example, you see the video that's out now, or let's just drop. To break the ABMB best versus worst. Yeah. I can see a bunch of the old doing that. Yeah. So it's very palatable. It's good. But certain type of content, chief, it's for the youth. Yeah. It's for the youth chief. Let's pack it up. You're there, standing in the line. 45. Like imagine. Smash your paws. Yeah. Imagine doing as much a puzzle. 45. Or imagine, like, I don't know, going to every restaurant ordering the food at 45. I don't know, man. It can be like a critic and stuff. Also, guys, knowing that anybody tell what you can't undo. And 45. Maybe you're 35. You want to be a content creator? Watching Kim Omar goes to be. And you want to cook that content? You want to cook that content? You want to cook that content? You want to do it? You want to cook that content? Yeah. You want to cook that content? Yeah. You want to cook that content? Yeah. You want to cook that content? Yeah. You want to cook that content? Yeah. You want to cook that content? Yeah. You want to cook that content? Yeah. You want to cook that content? Yeah. I want to cook that content. Yeah. I want to cook that content. Yeah. I want to cook that content. Yeah. I want to cook that content. Yeah. I want to cook that content. Yeah. I want to cook that content. Yeah. Yeah. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. Yeah. I want to cook that content. Yeah. I want to cook that content. Yeah. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. I want to cook that content. Yeah. I want to cook that content. And live and he's just chilling, voice-smoking, habri-kru-kru-kru-kru-kru-kru-kru-kru-kru-kru-kru-kru-kru-kru-kru-kru-kru-kru. I'm so scared to say, "Oh, this is an old content creator." Because I imagine, are you chilling at home, watching seated with all of a sudden, catching straight? That's what they say about us on the internet, "Hey, that guy level of video is old. It's live." If you hold your old, it's crazy. It's all perspective because to us, we actually, or Hundt is even an old person to be a new age, guys. Like, the content creator is right now, but yo, guys, yo, wow, what a conversation. I'm even viewed as an OG, which is crazy. Yeah, because you're still here. How am I an OG when I'm still... Yo, I don't even want to do the rest of this thing. Like, I'm having a good conversation to think about if this is an age, but how do we deal with the loss of things that make us happy in order to achieve our dreams? I think we touched on that a lot. What did we have to let go to be here? I think we touched on that a lot. We talk about agencies, bro. You know what I've been realizing, guys, and I hope you guys, I hope there's some content creators at home. Do you guys understand that these people don't know what the hell they're doing? These agencies that are choosing content creators to do certain campaigns, they don't do research. They don't know. They don't even know the content creator. Yeah. Only some are, like, you know, reputable. And it's so sad because I've even taken a campaign where I'm like, "I might not have been the best choice for this campaign, but I do this type of work and I enjoy this product so I'm going to promote it." But like, I thought we need a new sort of legislation, some sort of committee that's going to... We need a union, boy. We need a union because why is there what I'm betting promoting? Yeah. I would promote it, that's what I don't say. No, I don't think, really, find anything. Why is there what I'm betting promoting? Your new flavoured module, yes. Get them now. Like, it's gay, Jan. I would, I would promote anything for the rights amount of money. Like, I'm saying, like, why would you promote promoting rights? These mics. I don't know. I don't know. I would promote anything for money. It's a dog joke. Slavery. Crimes against humanity. Yeah. For money. No, but no, that's a joke, guys. People, I think people are going to be at a room saying, "Hey, this guy." No, but that's a joke. But, dude, people with sign, I think it was something to this lady from an agency I just did a band deal with her. And she was saying, content creates a sign contract by the, like, the, they just see their amount and they just sign context. They don't care about repurposed. They don't care about, like, how long, how long are you going to get paid. They don't care about, like... They don't read the contract. That's what I'm trying to say. They don't read the contract at home. You don't look at the usage. They don't look at... They don't look at usage. Exclusivity. Exclusivity. Payment terms. Payment terms. You're competing. You're competing rights, by the way. Yeah. They don't look at who... That's a big thing, also. Who owns the content? Yeah. Hold your thoughts. Not yours. Not yours. They can put it on your thing. Ever. By the way, there's some countries that say you cannot delete this from your page. Ever. Some people say you can delete it after 30 days, 60 days, whatever. Yeah. Some people keep it. Some people don't. Being a constant creates is actually like... There's a lot of trouble with it as well. It's like a lot of stress. Yeah. But I do. It's also nice. It's also very nice. But like... It's gonna be the time to... Small things like payment dates. A lot of people don't know. People... You sign a contract that says you get paid after 100 to 10 days. What do you do then? You have rent. It's not even a joke. You have... I'm not even joking. There's rent and... 80 days is the max. There's people that you have to pay for shooting the work. Already. You're like, "Hey, what can you say?" I wish you had a DJ in my porridge or something. I'm coming. We're loading. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. I'll give you the OG. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. That's all in the game. No. That's all in the game. I'm going to be playing the producer of the talent. I understand his perspective when he says when he wants to own a specific amount of the work. As much as we've got talented talent, this would not exist without the vessels that we use. If Pori made the decision to buy, let's leave me. These cameras are all 50K. I've made the risk of getting a spin 150K to enable content creation in me taking that risk and killing a quality of life for a year. Surely I should be reaping the benefits in the future. Yeah. It's like a balanced game, bro. But they shouldn't be gatekeeping, though. Yeah. It's like a balanced game, type 5. I think with Pori and music, we're complaining about being influenced as artists have 10 times worse, bro. Those guys don't even get a percent of what they produce. You know who has it really bad? Actors and actress. Yeah. Oh, yes. That's the worst one. I'd say that's the worst one. I think that's the worst. They take advantage of those people. Like being an actor, you could take advantage of. I mean, you're working conditions are horrible. Commercials, anything. A lot of like underpaid or so. Abuse, like verbal abuse, physical abuse, sexual abuse. Underpaid. I've heard crazy. Underpaid. Like a lot. Like I know a lot of actors, I was speaking to this one guy. He's quite a prominent actor in this. Yeah, he's a prominent actor in that. And he was saying he acts out of passion. It gives him his name, but his roommate comes from influencer marketing. He was speaking to you about some campaign that's like paying him retain every month. And he's like, bro, this gives me so much security. That campaign, not just sounds like it's not that much money. But for him, it's like, yo, security. Then I'm like, yo, dude, these guys really are like going through a lot. When they get a gig, they have to pay the agents. They have to pay crazy tax. Okay, we'll pay tax. They have to pay the agent. They have to pay tax. And something. It's like, you're meant to get 100k. You end up working with like 45. I just hate how like you're working 12 hours a day too. Sorry. It's so smart. Like you convince young people who are obviously like acting space. Like I don't understand why F doesn't offer like law. That doesn't make sense. But anyways, I don't know today to the students. Yeah. Also, how is like how is I'm so sorry. How is learning how to act so expensive, but then the return is like so low. That doesn't make sense, bro. Also, I hate how like these production companies are so smart, bro. They'll approach you and say, okay, cool. Listen, we're going to do a season of Esma Jita. Esma Jita, you're going to do it for 150,000 pays. That's your cash for this. You shop and they're like, yeah, 150,000, yes, yes, yes. You sign away shop. The show becomes a global hit. And it makes like what? 1 billion, a billion ran. Yeah. And the whole time you made 150,000. There's no, you didn't negotiate in your contract. They're like, yo, if it gets repurposed onto like DFTV, then like. You need to still pay me because it's a different platform. It's a different production company. It's so sad, bro. It's very sad that how people don't know. I know with me, I did a TV show in Packing Cape Town for two months. With the channel Honey, the show's called Kiss Kitchen Relay. There were camera guys getting paid a bit of day rate than I was getting. Allegedly. No, it's the truth. There were camera guys getting paid a bit of day rate than me as one of three main talents. Yeah. But it's like what you said, like you are the talent, but they providing you the vessel. Do you see how like it's both sides, bro? Yeah, it's both sides because I'm pretty sure something's wet. He's probably like angry and saying that, ha, my father. Why do they care? I just picture something so it's always singing. I don't know why. Why am I fine? Yeah. I'm a master. I'm a master. So that's a nice way for us to end this episode. I asked you guys a question. Which one do you guys think is more important? If you've got a production company and you've got talent, who should get the biggest cut? Do we give the people enabling the ability to create a piece of content so the production company or the record label or whatever? Do we do they get the biggest chunk or do we give the talent the biggest chunk? Because they are the content basically. Because they are the content and they wouldn't exist. So who is more important? The art or how we make the art? The art or how we make the art. And this student percentages here, like say like they should get 50/50, they should get 70/30. I'm so curious to see. Also, I'm stealing this and this is the first time that it actually hears about this. But I was watching a podcast the other day and they have an active Spotify playlist where they add music every episode. They add like three, four songs. And I think that's something that me and Todona try, but I wanted to like propose it to you first. You guys let us know. I love music. I'm always listening to music. So yeah, more than willing to like handle that as well. And I think that would be a good interaction for us as well. You guys get to listen to the music after the podcast. Have a good day. Do both. Yeah. Maybe we do a playlist per episode, but we'll see. We'll see. What's the time? There's a lot of music. It's not actually, I like five songs. You can add 10 songs and done. And we say guys, today's this week's theme of the music is this. Check it out. Yeah. That'll be cool. Also, my show recommendations. I've been watching this show on, okay, first of all, don't... Do you want to be on your love? Don't, don't, don't, don't start. Okay, never mind. This new series of Netflix. I think it's cold. Don't you start. I watched the video of those people reading the script and no one said anything. You know, I've seen so much critique on the show and I feel like people aren't giving the right critique. The acting was amazing. Quest does acting was good for these first time. My problem with that show was a lack of storyline. I didn't understand what was going on. Like, story, the story of the story, beautiful, but then like, continuity. Was that a voice notice in the beginning? Did he use the, did he send a voice note on WhatsApp to the production companies? Like, I share the same frustrations as everybody with that one. I want to say guys, I keep my, don't give, don't think this is South Africa because watch that and watch Blood Legacy. That's what I'm watching now. And watch the difference in short, story, story, selling, it's a production company. That's what I'm trying to say. And the director from Piano Love is such an amazing director. He's done, like, a person was telling me that this guy is lovely. But you watch Blood Legacy, guys, wow, that's what I'm going to recommend you. That's what I'm recommending. That's the new series, isn't it? Beautifully. We are finally, I think we're finally, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we're finally scratching what production should look like in South Africa. We finally, we got it, we got it with Blood and Water was like our first, like, big push into like, this is how good the quality could be for, as an African show, but we just, everything. No, but the writing and Blood Legacy is phenomenal. It's amazing. It's impeccable. Yes. The writers of Piano Love need to catch it. Only two characters. Not directors. Only to stop writing. I love them. Even the guy, they're just hosting the pen in the corner that says, what's the name of your game? And I hope, I hope none of them are watching for so long. Yeah, I'm sure they're watching this, isn't it? Ah, Chief, come on. No, but in the writing, a beautiful story, you need to work on it. Now, I'm like, connect the stories together, bro. I'm gonna connect the stories, bro. I'm actually lying. All of them need to be fired. I watched the first 10 minutes of that, it was the movie, right? I watched the first 10 minutes of the movie, I paused it, and then I vented about it. And then I switched it off. And I said, I won't waste my, I won't waste my pen man from this. Yeah. My debit order is too good to be. I bet this is the same debit order that pays for me to watch, and it has to be the same level, guys. And I'm sorry, but a flop. That's what I'll say, in terms of writing, a flop, flop, or linkage. I'm saying like, you link this scene to the next. What's happening? Storyline. Storyline horrible. But she was playing, she was playing, uh, she's playing, bye bye, thank you. She was playing piano, she gets in trouble with, bro, like I'm not saying she, but like, they said to her friend, right, um, of course, who plays the lead female? Is it Bunque? Bunque Moudisela. Yeah. Great. Her friend. She looks 32. They, they're the principals that, no, they're costing my friends. My friend. The university's the best thing. Yeah. And buddy, go back to your ex. I mean, I'm not into costing or anything, but I'm pretty sure I can university student ages for my 19th, I mean, some of you are 28, but 32, I'm sorry for hating, man. You know, like, it doesn't crack, but I know, no, no, no, she's in the scene sitting next to her. I'm going to get in trouble. I'm like, dude, she's still a university in this, in this movie. She's still in the, I knew they didn't have to make it like university driven. They, they could have done it, they could have put it in the work, in the workforce. Because also that goal is in race and the boyfriend is quest, the quest that looks 40. Yeah. So, what's the key, what's the key, what's the key during the beginning scene, quest that's fighting his baby mama and for the taxi transport, the baby mama takes any refuses to pay the taxi driver. I said, is this in this means, or are they just playing now, they just shoot and act. Oh my gosh. We're gonna get you. Bye bye. Bye bye. Bye bye. [MUSIC]