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"Animal Farm" by George Orwell

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11 Oct 2024
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All right, everybody, welcome. Get ready to use your brains a little because today we're gonna be doing a deep dive into animal farm by George Orwell. - Yeah. - And we're not just talking about pigs and horses, right? We're talking about revolutions, power. - Yeah, exactly. - And it's one of those stories that stood the test of time. So it's gonna be really interesting to kind of pick it apart. So to set the stage, we're on Manor Farm. - Yeah. - And these animals, they're tired, they're fed up. - Absolutely. - They've had enough of Mr. Jones, the farmer, right? So they band together. - Yeah. - And they're like, all right, revolution. - It's that classic, you know, the desire for something better. - Exactly. - It's that hope that things can change and will change for the better. - Yeah, and you see that in the very beginning, you know, they have this idea of animalism. - Right. - And they have these really catchy slogans, like four legs good, two legs bad. It makes you think though. - Yeah. - Is it really that simple? I mean. - And that's the thing about ideology, right? Is it often takes really complex issues. - Right. - And boils them down to these very simple. - Thus versus them. - Exactly. Us versus them and it makes it very easy to manipulate people, to manipulate opinions. - Yeah, to control the narrative. - Exactly. - So we've got these animals, right? And at first it's like, wow, this is amazing. This is great, right? Snowball has all these great ideas. - He's the idealist, you know? He's with the big plans, the windmill, the literacy program. - It's a visionary. - Yeah. - But then you've got Napoleon, right? - Oh, yeah. - And he's got other things on his mind. - And you start to see that power struggle emerge. - Absolutely, yeah. And it reminds me of actual revolutions throughout history. - Absolutely, yeah. The French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, they all had those moments of great hope and then the infighting. - Right, the power grabs. - Yeah, exactly. - And you see it in the most chilling way when Napoleon unleashes the dogs on Snowball. - Oh, that's a turning point in the story. - It is, those dogs, they're like his secret police. - Mm-hmm, very much so. And it shows how quickly things can shift from, you know, a collective struggle to a very controlled environment. - And control the information, right? - Yeah. - If you control the information, you control the people. - Absolutely, it's a timeless tactic, isn't it? - It really is. And then it's like the pigs, right? They were supposed to lead this new, equitable society. And what happens, they start walking upright, they start wearing clothes, they're making deals with humans. - It's the ultimate betrayal, and it's something that we see time and time again in history. - Power corrupts. - Power corrupts, absolutely. - And it's like that line, all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. - Oh, that's the one, isn't it? The irony, the hypocrisy. - So good, so good. So why do you think this book is still relevant today? It was written so long ago. - Well, it's a story about human nature, isn't it? It's about how easily we can be manipulated, how power can corrupt. - It's a cautionary tale. - Yeah, it is. It's a reminder to think critically, to question those in power. - To not just accept things of face value. - Exactly, don't just believe the slogans, you know, look deeper. - Absolutely, and you know, when we see so much division in the world today, and all these slogans being thrown around, it's so, so important to be critical, to be informed. - Absolutely, ask yourself who benefits from this, whose voice is being silenced. - Wow, so, so much to think about everyone. Animal farm, not just a book about talking animals. - No, not at all. It's a mirror reflecting our own world, our own struggles. - I must read for everyone, really makes you think. Well, thank you so much for diving into this with me today. - Absolutely, my pleasure. - And to our listeners, keep those brains churning.