On today's show, host Allen Ruff is joined by National Affairs correspondent John Nichols to break down the September 17th presidential debate and discuss the respective campaigns at length. Nichols writes for The Nation that Harris won the debate, and he explains why on the program We then hear from callers who are grappling with the election in light of the on going Israel-Hamas war. Also joining Ruff and Nichols in the studio is Bert Zipperer to ask for listener donations. The WORT Fall Pledge Drive continues through Sunday, September 15th and donations to this program can be made at wortfm.org/donate. John Nichols is a national affairs correspondent for The Nation and associate editor of The Cap Times. He has written, cowritten, or edited over a dozen books including the New York Times bestseller It’s OK to Be Angry About Capitalism cowritten with Senator Bernie Sanders. He is a contributing writer for The Progressive and his writing has been featured in The New York Times and Chicago Tribune, among others.