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Can't wait for the MPCE this weekend. Great start to the PGA Tour event this week. Ryan Fox is tied six in the Black Desert Championship. Oh, if only we had shown me the money. My G's not top ten yet, but he is just three shots off the lead. Having shot an opening round, six under sixty-five for Ryan Fox, including... Gosh, it was a terrible start, actually. Bogey two of the first three holes, and then rattled home with one, two, three, four, five birdies and an eagle on the par five nights. Go Foxy, go you good thing. Bit of a mixed show today, folks, our BJ Watling will join us just after one. We've got some great cricket aficionados out there. So load me up with what you'd like to know from BJ Watling, an absolute gritty... I always just remember him as a gritty performer that just hated giving his wicked away. And I didn't mind that he had scored 50 runs off 130 balls because that's usually what we needed from BJ Watling. So he will join us just after one o'clock. So you've got an hour to get your questions and I'll save them in the cricket questions folder that I've just created. And I put as many as your thoughts or questions to him. And you're welcome to ring up in the first hour as well, 0800 150811 for those that have got us. I know a lot of the country's got the rule round up at the moment. So it's almost like an exclusive club of afternoons with Stephie on Monday, Wednesday, Friday between 12 and 1. So if your lines are open, 0800 150811, so BJ Watling. Sadly news for me, I'm lucky enough and I say that genuinely, I am lucky enough to know Dave Latelli very well. I've known him a long time and I just always marvel at how selfless this man is. Everything he does, he does for others. He fixed himself first, then he's trying to fix communities and the rugs being pulled. And I'll put this to him, that the government gave him $87,000 this year. He estimates it takes about a million dollars to keep his food shear program going. Now people like Rod Pecamble, foodstuffs, the supermarkets, they donate like crazy. I know Leo Malloy helped pay for the kitchen that he does the cooking in his food shear for. And I remember during COVID when people were just losing jobs left, right and center. I went down to his BBM area and that's when he started his food shear program. And the queue of cars needing assistance. And these aren't people taking the pedal trying to get freebies. These are people with zero food in the cupboards. And then you open a press release that the government's putting $33 billion into roading and $87,000 to help our very needy people. And I'm pretty sure Dave will say it's the kids. The kids have no choice what situations they're born into. And we all know, as long as I can remember, the squeeze on food banks, et cetera, goes in hard at Christmas time. And it's not about treats or anything, it's just about feeding the people. So a very broken Dave from La Tally. I can only imagine, like I know how much he cares for people and having to cut off a food supply to a big section of people. He's a broken man. So I just want to take the opportunity to give him some airspace on the show today because he sees it. You just sort of see it through Instagram and you see it when you drive past, he lives it. And he's tried everything he can to keep this thing open. But it's going to destroy him if he keeps it open in the current system. So I know it's not sport, but it's life and life's more important than sport sometimes. So we'll give Dave La Tally we have a chat to him just after two o'clock. 230 Mark Clayton with Racing Tips for the weekend. He always gives us long shots. So you don't need many of them to come in. He'll admit not an amazing strike rate, but if you get a $15 shot, that's good for 15 weeks. That's how I view it. That's how I treat myself. And Jimmy Smith at 246. 246? Where did that come from Jacob? Is that what it says in the rundown? No. 245 didn't we? Yes, it says 245. I don't know why I said 246. Oh, right, okay. I just don't know. I wasn't even going to save the time. Jimmy Smith at 11 7 E C N Sydney. He is the afternoon toast over there and he joins us each Monday and Friday. And I learned this morning he is commentating Beth who is this weekend. So he will be very excited for that which will guarantee that he will take Monday off. I'm going to give him some swish about that as well. Welcome to call R80150A11. Text message. We've got thought bubbles. We've got back in the days. We've got lost in the wash. We've got the whole lot. But first of all, it is the midday mixer. The midday mixer. Sorry about the delay. I was just scrolling from the bottom of my rundown to the top to note the temper bed post credit. First on the midday mixer staff, let's talk about Johnny Sexton. Oh, awesome. Here's a reply to Rico Ioani. I'll play it out. Here is his response. Did you get bothered when the stuff with like Rico Ioani and the Kiwis? Does that not matter to you? Because as long as the people in Ireland and Lenster know who you are and like you and respect you. What happens outside? No, I do care. Like I do care. But like the most important is your team mates. We are the people in your country. But like I was a bit shocked by the reaction to that because I toyed with taking it out and putting it in. But the reason I put it in was not giving out. Like this is just what happened. I mean this is just, I'm not, I don't. You still the truth? Yeah, the only answer, a certain part of me was just trying to protect. Because I got criticized after the game from my reaction. Because people thought, "Oh, here's your man being a sore loser again." But they didn't see what set me off. So it was just me explaining why, you know what I mean? So as Johnny's sort of response to Rico and why I put the excerpt in the book that he's releasing? Yeah, well he put it in. There was going to be some backlash. She knew that two things out of what he just said there, the interview said, you know, in your hometown and your home country. People like you and respect you. From what I've seen they don't. And then he said, "Oh, there's old mate just being a sore loser again." He knows he's a sore loser. And that's what's, that's what's brought up no support for him. Because he has had a career of complaining during a game, after a game. It was never going to end nicely for Johnny. But I tell you what it's done. It spiced up the game for All Blacks Island. It has massively spiced that up. Yeah, absolutely. And like personally, from a personal note, I kind of feel a bit, like I don't feel completely on either side. Rico, Ioannis or Johnny Sexton's in this, in this, the stowsh I suppose I'll put it. But do you expect them to bury the hatchet when it can't win? All Blacks take the field in Ireland November 9th. Like if they see each other off the field, do you expect you know a bit of a dap up? All good bro, all good bro kind of thing? I don't. No, two other people might, but I don't. And you think back to, if you're old enough, the Brino Driscoll tackle with Tana and Kevin Milamu. Brino Driscoll still isn't over that. He said they intentionally took him out of the tour. And he's still not, there's no peace pipes being smoked there. It's going to be interesting, nevertheless. Two. Two, let's talk about Joseph Parker's death. He was unfortunately left off the Usec Fury undercard for the December 21 bout in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. What's next for Parker in your opinion? He's earned the right for a big fight. And that rhymes and it didn't mean to, but... Oh, it didn't know. Joseph's in an awkward position where people don't want to fight him because A, he's good and he can beat anyone on his day, which he has shown. But his ranking's not high enough for the ones around to take on. So the big dogs who have rankings higher than them, look at Joe and go, do I really want to give this guy a go? Because of the people he's stopped. He's probably the best he's ever been there. There's no upside for an opponent to fight Joe except for money. And because Joe's a Kiwi and he's not European or American, the money's not as big. Doesn't matter what you like. If he got, I don't think he'll ever fight Tyson Fury, but if he fought Tyson Fury at Wembley, for example, it'd be 90-10 split and he'd have to agree to it. AJ, 90-10 split. Dubois, 80-20 split. He's never going to get the big. So he's in a horrible situation of being a very elite world-class boxer. But as a proposition, he's not an attractive proposition for people below him and people above him. He's going to struggle to find a fight. He's probably going to have to take someone quite low who says, "I'll give it a crack." Yeah, I feel for me because he's right now, had a couple of years, three years under Andy Lee training with Tyson. He's just been training with John Bones Jones. He's ready to go, but no one will sign his dance card. And he's best when he fights, right? A lot. A lot, yeah. Yeah, it's another interesting aspect to the boxing world. Great. And three on the midday mixer staff. News of Stephen Adams' investment in Auckland FC alongside Formula White's Tim Brown, Noah Hickey and Winston Reed. It seems to me they're doing it the right way, Auckland FC. You know, kind of getting free promotion/news stories. Every time they get someone of their, this esteem on board. What do you think? You know, I can't fault anything they're doing in the setup of this club. I think it's been brilliant. And you're right, the, what do you call it, the indirect promotion they get from the likes of Stephen Adams. When he just goes to a game and does a selfie and the number of eyeballs that's going to get on it. You can't, money can't buy that. In fact, he's giving money and then giving you that as well. I wonder why Stephen Adams has done it. I haven't read into it. I love that he's done it. It's a win win for him, I think. And he's got a number of investments back in New Zealand. All the basketball camps and whatnot. So it kind of goes along with that. And his friends with Tim Brown, who basically convinced him to, you know, spend a bit of a dash. You know, God knows he's got a lot of it, so. So it's Tim Brown. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, I think it's just something that he's, obviously it's an interesting aspect too that Stephen grew up in Wellington, right? And played for the Saints before he went over to play college ball. And him, you know, his connection with Auckland FC could be something that's used in promotion with the rivalry with the Phoenix going forward as well. Yeah, no, it's interesting. I've got my Auckland FC shirt on today. You have? So a bit of a bias opinion, but I think. I've got my Wales rugby jersey on today. I've joined in footy shirt Friday for the first time in about two years. I've got the Welsh jersey out. I've got a few sideways glances. And we're looking for someone from the New Zealand rugby union in the cafe. There's no one. If Mark Robinson turns up the coverage, I'm just going to walk past him and say, "Hey, Robert." Hey, Boil. Hey, Boil. From the valleys. All right. Oh, 800-150-811 is the number to call, getting a few text messages about. They've to tell you as well with some solutions or some ideas, which is great. And I'll save those. We go to Cliffy. Must be on the way to the golf course. G'day, Cliff. Oh, good afternoon, Stephanie. No golf yesterday. We had a great day. After all the road, we've had down here. There was only a little area of the course. It was a bit damp. It was amazing. Just had to put a wind the last couple of days. Just take the edge. The course was nice. The greens had a bit of pace, which was nice. Just being cut. So that was good. Yeah. I think about these boxes. You know, you can't be playing regular ring time at once. You're not getting hit too much. Yeah. You know, you don't want to be stale and never getting out there. It's a bit like rugby players that never seem to get on the field. They're always carried flags, but never get the game time. And then they wonder at the end of the year that the amount of minutes that some of these all black fringe players have played in a rugby season must be quite minimal. For the opportunity, they end up not having. I'd love to see how many minutes Noah Hothan played last year and how many minutes he's played this year. Well, you know, the guys, the most hurricane boys, Ruben Love and the midfield have just lost his name. You know, they wouldn't have played bag of raw rugby this season. You know, since the hurricanes have hardly played any minute. So the game against BG and the rest of the time they've just been running around hitting tackle bags. Yeah. But to see Fox, they're a good start. Look, he's always a slow start. He's always wonder whether he ever hits enough balls before he starts playing. He's always susceptible in the first two or three holes to drop a couple. Yeah, you're right, actually. Yeah, I've watched a lot of Foxy and every most round of golf he starts at round one. He'll drop a first or second hole, usually the first. And I sometimes think he's first drive. He ends up in a bit of trouble and he struggles to make hard because it's usually a part four. He'll get himself in a bad position off the tee and then he'll struggle to make car. But look, he came back strong all those birdies that are in an eagle. I think he's tied for about 10, which is good. Looking forward to listening to BJ. Yeah. Just talk to him about keeping. I feel our keepers now, since they're a wee bit grabby. They seem to throw their hands at the ball instead of waiting and catching it softly. And I think some of our slip fields men are the same. They reach, they throw it in their hands instead of cupping. And I think whatling and God like Jeremy County and that could show fellows how to catch. Because I don't believe at the moment that we're learning how to catch a ball properly. This tennis ball stuff throwing hitting guys with tennis balls and things. You can't be getting privileges off of it. If you could work out something and get fine if you're just playing off. Because you don't know where they're going to go the same. But some of the hand work in the back caps at the moment is very average. I think there's coaching in the team. I think there's too many coaches and there's not a real coaches. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, instead of sport on this weekend, the old motor race is always interesting. I've never had time to sit and watch. So I did back in the day, back in the probably three years ago. I used to love it. But the old VXs and the Commodores and those early days and the early 2000s. It was just, yeah, there was something about it. I think it's gone a little bit. But like you're racing the outset. It's become a little bit too, well, just not interesting enough. Not enough noise and, well, I don't know. Yeah, me, I sound a bit like old smitty. I'm a bit old fashioned. I did like it when it was the Bathurst 500 and it didn't take six, seven hours. I did like that. But I still will watch the whole thing on Sunday. I do every year, but it is quite long. Yeah. But that's an interesting rugby on this weekend. I hope Wellington goes right through. I've met my second day in the target, so I'd always been. But I'd like to see Wellington win the end piece of a national champion. I still like it called that because it's the national championship of rugby. And I hope the boys do the business. Yeah. I think we're in for good, for good games. Awesome. Cheers, buddy. You too, mate. Take it easy, mate. Oh, at 100, 150, 811, we've got Paul from Northland on the line. G'day, Paul. Hey, Stephanie, you've got a lot of Fridays, aren't you, mate? Oh, too high, ever. Fish and chip Friday. I love it. Fish and chip Friday. It's a shame there's no footy on the line in the leg on tonight, but never mind. I like to the wife, mate. She's juicing a tension, mate, after the season. Come on now. Give it one evening. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, I was listening to the assistant station this morning. Michael Carrianos talking about Leo Thompson off-contract with the Knights and possibly coming to the Warrior. That would be, that would just top it off as far as props go. Yeah, he's a real killer. He's getting better and better, so. Yeah. Oh, Leo Thompson. The other one was Sean Stevenson. What are your thoughts? Do you think he would come over to the Warriors with one toy? It looks like he's kind of the bulldogs. I think he would. I do think he would. Do I think he will? I'm not sure yet, but. Yeah. I just, I just wonder if that New Zealand 15 that he's been picked in as New Zealand rugby, trying to appease him, but he wants, he wants the big show. And good enough for long enough to get, to get a crack, I feel. And I think it's quite clear he's not because there's lots of young fellas ahead of him. And so if he wants to play some top level footy and he's been over, he's had talks with the dolphins. He's had talks with another team as well in the last couple of years, but that would be less disrupting to him if he stayed in New Zealand and in Auckland. I mean, he plays for North Harbour, it's just across the bridge. So, and he's a sort of guy, I think, and I'm not going to say whether he'd make it or not. I have absolutely no idea, but he's a good footballer, he's a good athlete. Yeah, it would be interesting, you know, the fact that they've picked them for their all-black 15, you'd think that they wouldn't do that if he was considering going. But that's, I mean, that's interesting. Well, they may not know. They may not know, and if they asked them, he'd say no. Because, you know, I think the other cards you play close to your chest if you're the player. Yeah, yeah, true, true. I was listening to, well, Rick, he's an impressive young man, mate. And I think, I can't wait to see him in that black jersey for Kiwis. He's, I was listening to him. He has reps on that Stevenson, he reckons he could transition, and he even said himself, he's still coming to grips with, you know, learning and the pace of the game and so forth. But he's going to, it's going to be really good to see him in that Kiwi jersey. Oh, I still think we've got a good team. The Kiwis have got a good team. Sean Johnson's been out for four weeks. You know, he's got the legs. He left us by hitting ourselves this week, mate, because it's going to be a bit of a shock to his system. But, gee, what a man ate that just say, "Yeah, I'm available," you know, and then to answer that yes, so he's called. It's a bit like old Alfie Lange when he came back to help Queensland win. Hopefully we get the same situation with Shawnee. Yeah, absolutely. And I don't think he'll be expected to play 80 minutes. He'll be a bit of a conductimid field. His running game won't be where it could have been if he'd stayed playing. But I definitely think it's a tick rather than the cross that Sean Johnson's back in the Kiwis. Yeah, yeah, just for a go. So, Leo Thompson, I think his brother is an All Black, is that right? Yeah, is that right? No, Tyrone Thompson is a place for Hawkes Bay. I think, not an All Black. No. Oh, OK. Yeah, well, he'll be a good home alongside Barney and Fisher Harris. Gee. It's a good engine. It's a good engine, mate. Yeah, you have a great weekend. Mate, love your work, mate. You're awesome. Cheers, buddy. You take care, Paul. Thanks, mate. Good league man, Paul, up in the north up there. We shall take a break. On the other side, I can see him just ringing up after this. I feel like we're going to get our heartland rugby preview with a great man, Josh, from the West Coast. Welcome back in, folks. Had a lot of text messages. Just before we go to Josh and the West Coast. Staffy, could you go through the all-time Kiwi selection that they were talking about in the last hour? Only got to hear the reserves were. It is, if I go back to the top. Matthew Ridge, Sean Hoppy, and Phil Orchard are the wings. Dean Bell and Joey Marno, the midfield. Olsen-Philipina and Stacey Jones. Ruben Wookiee and Kevin Tamotee up front with Isaac Luke between them. Simon Manoring and Mark Graham. Taubeda Nikko. And the bench was Lance O'Hire, Kurt Sorenson, James Fisher Harris and Hugh McGahn. And the coach, of course, is to Graham Lowe. What a team. What a team. Heartland update. With a great man from the West Coast. It is Josh. G'day, Josh. Good, mate. Coming to crunch time now, mate. Can South Canterbury go down? Well, it's any final times. We'll touch on the other semi-first of the Lahore Cup, which is Longanui taking on James Valley. Last week in both these teams were actually quite disappointing. Longanui getting the good touch up by Ken Country and, of course, losing the balance. Longanui in the process, and James Valley, well, they were upset by Hoddle for Newark Avenue. Both of these teams put on a performance and make a bit of a statement in order to beat one or the other semi-final, which, as you touched on, could well be South Canterbury. But South Canterbury, well, they've got to get past mid-cannery first. And I know last time they played, I think I did tip in mid-cannery for the upset. But to look at the results the last few weeks, I think South Canterbury just could be too strong. They've had some really tough games even last week. They managed to hold off a brilliant West Coast. And again, the win by near a few points. And mid-cannery, they've had some, I wouldn't say there's no easy games in the heartland, but they have had it last two weeks against Poppy Bay and Boron of one comfortably side. I think to this one South Canterbury could just be a bit more hardened for this match. So I'll be tipping them in. It could be close to the first sort of 50, 60 minutes. But I think they'll win comfortably in the end and run away with it. Yeah, so that's that game now for the Lohawk up. First semi final was King Country taking on East Coast. King Country have had very strong season and I think they actually deserve to be in the top four. But the drawers hasn't formed their way from this year. They've managed to play all the top teams and they've had some pretty close losses. But if anyone can upset them, I've got East Coast every chance this one. They've actually been pretty solid on the road, winning a number of games on the road. So for this one, I think King Country won't be by much. Yeah, for the main game of the heartland this weekend, West Coast coming up for a bit of a revenge match because Horofenor, if we think back to round three, Horofenor actually beat West Coast and there was in the 80th minute just to steal the win. So the boys will be going up there. They'll want to put on a bit of a show and you get some revenge because it's not good losing while they're on your home track. So we can do the same to them on their own turf. And I teased it on yesterday. There's a special man on the reserves bench this week for West Coast. His name's Jamie Kearns. He's the club captain of Kiwi and Hogatega. And at the Reichhold age of 3D 3, he's on track to make his debut. And yeah, it's sort of a rags Richard's story with staff. He's, you know, most weeks he's on the embankment being quite vocal. And this weekend he's going to be sitting on the bench for a heartland semi-final. So it's all going well. And this has the potential to be some sort of documentary on Netflix. I'm calling it now, Steph. And when he gets on, when he gets on, I'm assuming he'll just start folding as opponents because yeah, he doesn't mind the defense. What position does he play? Well, 10 years ago he was one of the premier centers in the West Coast club competition. But he's moved in a bit now. He's a loose forward. He'll be coming off the bench. I know the coaches will be listening to this. So, you know, boys need to give him a good 20 to really make the state make an impact. So you don't want to give him 10 minutes and he'd just be getting warm. He'd just be warm and he showed us up on his forearms. Yeah, that's right. It's a lesson you've run out there just to never give up on your dreams. You know, if you want to play for your provinces, keep betting around the clubs then. You just never know. You could get the call up and play for the semi-finals. You'd never know. Yeah. But I'll throw him to give it just a quick multi-step. And this is how I think it will unfold. So I've got Bonga Nui, South Canterbury, King Country and West Coast all kids are here. That's paying 7.20. Ooh, that's not bad. I quite like them. And I hope your Coasty Boys get up, particularly for Jamie Coons. That would be just amazing. Oh, well, he's like I said, he's a bit of a fan favourite. And yeah, a real story that, you know, you can do anything if you put your mind to it. Do you know, Sky Show One game a weekend from the Heartland? Do you know which one they're showing this week or if they are? I think from memory, I think it's one of the lead cap ones. I'm not too sure if it's, I think it might be the South Canterbury one. Okay, I'm just checking. You know, we make Canterbury. I'm just checking my app here, which usually tells me. No, it doesn't tell me. I'll see if I can find out which one it is though because I'd love to watch a bit of semi-final from the Heartland. It's such good rugby. Yeah, well, we're in, like I said, if there's always one million times though, they really need to make a statement if anyone wants to beat you up the camera because I have took them in to lose. It's not going to be this weekend, it has to be next weekend. So all the best of the teams. And yeah, if you're in the regions, get down. Get down to the state and get some support going because it's a great competition. It really is. And yeah, there's some good players out there. Very entertaining. Awesome, Josh. Thanks, buddy. Take care, mate. There he is with his Heartland preview. He's become Wanganui, South Canterbury, King Country, and West Coast for the upset of the weekend. Tim's Valley. I'm not sure what he was calling it, Thames. I do enjoy the Heartland rugby. I've done that text messages. Brendan has said this is around how we catch. Tennis balls are used to help have soft hands because they bounce out very easily. It also helps protect hands as they do more catching than in the cliff stay. Having said that, our catching does need to improve. It does. It really does. Brett says, "I took it step the foxy bit, top 10 on its own, and chucked in the top 20 at $2.50 in Maltese. I'm sneaking off to watch some Group 1 racing. Enjoy your weekend, everyone. Brett's off to the Liverpool at Tierrappa tomorrow. I wonder if Claydose got some roughies in Group 1 day at Tierrappa tomorrow. I know that gave us a couple, and I had it. This is me turning the page. Here it is. Topo. I think he gave us two for Topo today, so I'm just going to keep an eye on them, and it was race four. This is terrible radio. I can't get up today's races from Topo on my website. Never mind. I'll keep trying. I shall keep trying. Double eight, double three. Any questions for BJ Watling that's coming up just after the one o'clock news? Your observations and share his observations as well about this team. If you want questions about captaincy, about wicked keeping, about tactics going to India, do we just preserve, do we go and attack? What does it all look like? Yeah, I want to ask him the questions that you want answered, so let's do that. But we shall take a break. On the other side, a thought bubble. Go on, what are you going to squeeze my brain with today? Yeah, hopefully I don't pop it like the bubbles. Melbourne Rebels staff, they launched a 32.6 million Australian dollar damages claim against rugby Australia in the week, and news up this morning that rugby Australia have launched a counterclaim. Apparently the Rebels have been insolvent since the 31st of December 2018, so why did rugby Australia prop up the franchise since 2018? Why has it taken so long for them to dissolve? I don't know, I guess they would have put financial plans to rugby Australia, said this is the way we'll trade our way out of it, but we need a $5 million injection or whatever it was. Maybe there was a player transferred to Queensland, from Queensland to the Rebels, just trying to think who it was. And he said, I'm not playing till you pay, because they agreed to pay his removal or transfer, shifting his house and stuff, and they do it. The name of the tip of my tongue, he was a winger, I think. Was it for uni violin? Could have been, could have been. It was something like that. Yeah, I can't remember who it was. But yeah, so that I've had issues for a while, it's interesting actually, yeah. An old boy of my old school, Pami Boys, is one of the pad owners, or was one of the pad owners, or on the board or something like that. I wonder if we could get him on, just go through my old school weaving. I mean, that would be cool, but I'm not sure if they can talk about it, as soon as there's a lawsuit coming around. That's a lot of money. It's a massive amount of money. And kind of stemming off the back of that, I've had this jotted down to ask you in the week, when this news came up. It's a topic that we've probably spoken about at length over the past three years since the station launched. Could New Zealand rugby do without rugby Australia? Rugby Australia need New Zealand rugby, right? More than we need them. Oh, I would say so. We need to be symbiotic with someone. We've lost South Africa. Yeah, but I'm not sure we do. I'm not sure we do. If we didn't have Australia, we wouldn't have super rugby. We'd go NPC. Bigger. Is that a bad thing? No, it's not a bad thing. I'm fighting a sneeze. Oh, yeah, okay. Well, I'll fill. Because in my eyes, the NPC, I've said it on the show before, has the most potential at any competition, I think, sporting competition that I'm currently aware of. The NPC could be New Zealand's NRL with Fiji and Samoa and Tongan teams. Yes, it could. And like, what if we got 12? How many is in the NPC? 14. Yeah, 14. And make it 18. And spread the talent so we don't have these telephone numbers because it's super rugby players now playing. Because a lot of super rugby players don't play NPC because they're in the all-blacks, et cetera, like that. And have the NPC playing at the same time as club rugby. NPC starts in February. And away you go. Full season. Have a break at June for the internationals. Have your club rugby finals, your under-85s. That's your highlights. And then back to the tail end of the NPC. Whatever it's called. And then the northern tour. There's the season finishes before the northern tour. And I think the trap is when we talk about expand the NPC or finish the super rugby, it's just about getting the New Zealand rugby competition. Whether it's called NPC or called super rugby, or whatever it is, the New Zealand rugby championship, let's call it that. And do it. But we move so slowly with innovation and enterprise and all that. But I just wonder what super rugby is going to look like. And when we had the new cheering at this a long time ago, he pretty much said, and I get it because they'd just been appointed. We've got to get through 2025 with the 11 teams. The draw's been done. We know who's playing where 2026. That is make or break day or make or break year for super rugby. Will we see an Argentinian team? Will we see a Japanese team? Will we see an American team? What do we see? The trouble for me is that we're in, like, I think the domestic competition sacrifice that for the growth of the international game. And I feel like looking at the NRL and their PNG expansion club, that's what I don't like about it is the fact that it's kind of going away from having the single-minded approach where it's domestic plus the warriors. And that's super rugby. That's where the fallacy in super rugby has, like, become, right? Where it's the time zones don't match up, who really cares about this and that. Like, fans don't go to away games, right? Also, like, that's another aspect that the NRL, although it does kind of struggle with, you know, fans going to, across, yeah, to across, you know, states. But it's more, fans are more inclined to go to a Sydney Derby and it drives interest in it, right? Yeah, they are. That's something that's super rugby lacks, highly. I think we will see improvement from Australia next year because they've lost a team. So the talent... And ability. On the field. Yeah, I get that, but fan interest, I'm not, like, will that increase? I'm not sure. They need to start winning. They need to start winning at Wallaby level. They need to start winning at super rugby level. They're a power force that's not powerful at the moment. But they could get there again. But what I'm saying is, like, the whole nation filled Suncorp and Optostadium and Perth, right, under the banner of the Wallabies. But I don't think the Warrittars are going to fill out Allian's anytime soon. Well, they've been so bad for so long, that's the problem. And Ozzie's love winners, they're more fickle than us. They're backing winners. They'd just laugh at me supporting Menoratou for how long. And, like, when did they last one? 1977. And you still support them. You're mad. You know, it's a different mindset. I get that. Mmm. Here's a great text, and I didn't know. Steffi. Last week in Sri Lanka, the New Zealand over 45 men's indoor cricket team beat Ozzie to become the World Champions. And the over 35s lost to Ozzie on the last ball of their final. Robbie Kerr played for the over 50s. And there's been no mention in any media about it. Plenty of people will talk about it. Just ask. I didn't know. I put my hand up. I didn't know. And I think, I think Jesse Ryder plays for New Zealand indoor cricket. And I wonder if he was in, would he be in, he wouldn't be over 45, but it'd be probably over 35. I used to love indoor cricket as a 20s. Everyone played indoor cricket. We had indoor cricket courts all over Palmer's North, and they were booked out. Bocked out. I can see we've got a phone call. We'll take a break and take them up to the news. Okay. Ted, you ain't there. We'll take your call after this break. Welcome back in. We've got Ted online. G'day, Ted. G'day. Steffi. How are you? Very good, sir. Hey, just listening to you guys, chat about Australian rugby. And here's a talk. I always thought that Australian rugby struggles a bit, you know, struggles because they don't have a competition between club rugby and super rugby. Like in New Zealand, we've got NPC. South Africa, they've got a carry cup. You know, they don't have anything in between. Once super rugby is over, you know, there's nowhere else for the top-line players to go. I was just wondering what your daughter on that were. Yeah, I asked Jeremy Paul about that when I said, what are the non-wallaby super rugby players doing now? And he pretty much just said their training. That's all they've got. They did try an NPC type model. I think they had six or eight teams. And it was hellishly expensive to put on. No one went. And I think it lasted two seasons. They probably need to. And I was going to talk to Jeremy Paul about it today, but he can't come on the show today. But expanding their club competition, they get good crowds to game games and Gordon games. Maybe they could combine the club rugby between Queensland and New South Wales and have an NPC type of thing. But they're bleeding money at the moment, Aussie rugby. And I don't know if they've got the finances to be able to do something like that. Yeah, I kind of always thought that that's one of the reasons why they kind of like dropped off the map. Yeah, they do. They do. They need more rugby over the effects for sure. I don't know what the answer is for them, mate. Cool. Oh, thanks for that, sir. Have a great weekend, mate. Ken's texting saying, "I'm one of the South African teams that didn't get into Europe looking at the possibility of joining Super Rugby again. That cheaters, I think, probably be a lot of roadblocks, but you never know yet." Was the cheaters? I was just thinking, though, if these ones South African team, like logistically, we used to go to South African play three games or two. And then a couple in Aussie on the way back. The cheaters would have to make so many trips to Australia and New Zealand. They'd probably have to make three trips. Three threes, sort of thing. Three trips are three games. And then just sit there and we fly and play again, fly out. Logistically, don't know. If there were two, you could probably make it work. Who are the other ones? The wild elephants, the something. There was another one. Get them going again. Hmm. All right. PJ Watlings coming up after the news at one o'clock. I've got some questions for him coming in. And I'll send out a message for them when the rule roundups over as well, for all those of us to get involved. And the cricket chat with BJ Watling. I want to ask what you want to know, so text them in 003. Shut up and let me go. This hurts, I tell you so. But the last time you won't kiss my lips, now shut up and let me go. Your jeans were once so clean, I bet you'd change your wardrobe. Since we met now, oh, so give a leap. Oh, for me, John is left. It's you, the opps beholden me. I'm not containable. This doesn't happen. Not sustainable. I ain't freaking. I ain't freaking this. I ain't freaking this. I ain't freaking this. I ain't freaking this. I ain't freaking this. I ain't freaking this. Welcome in. Just go one o'clock and a big welcome in to all those that have been with the rule roundup for the first hour with Andy. I need the listening audience to help me out. There was a super rugby team out of South Africa that wasn't the Bulls, the Cheaters, the Sharks, the Cats, the Lions. And I said wild elephants. It's something like that. And I just can't remember. I feel like they only played for a couple of seasons and they were terrible. But they won the right to play and a promotion relegation into and against the Cheaters. I'm just going off memory. There's a team. I just can't remember their name. I can't remember their name. I'm on my more text messages. We've been talking about all sorts of things in the first hour. BJ Walling, we've just had to pause him for 15 minutes. He's got something else that's just come up. So here we add about quarter pass. Was it, Jacob? 20 pass, quarter pass. 20 pass. 20 pass. All right. So we'll have a chat to quarter pass. So the new listeners, if you've got any questions you want me to put to BJ Walling, former black cap keeper, I've got a few have come in already. So I'm very happy and I'm desiring your questions to come in. No Jeremy Paul today, he's got a, this is a word that Sam Hewitt used to hate. He's got a luncheon. He said it's a lunch. It's not a luncheon. And I said the difference is you get dressed up for luncheons. It's an official lunch. It's a luncheon. He just makes a skin crawl. So I always used to use it. So he has a luncheon. So he can't come on. So we are going to chat today for the telly just after two who's made a very hard decision to close his food sheet bank. He is a very selfless man. He's worked tirelessly. It's been in our news today as well. And I just rang him this morning. I've known Dave for a long time. And boy, he's got one of the biggest hearts of anyone I've ever met. And he was a broken man when I rang. And I said, I offered him to come and talk on the station so he can help educate us about what's going on, what he sees because he operates in the world that we don't know much about really and don't get to it. Southern spears. Thank you. And the kings. The Southern spears and there was the something kings, yes. That's it. So Dave for the telly after two, two thirty. Mark Clayton with some tips for the weekend. He hosts the Good Oil on Saturdays here on AC&Z. And Jimmy Smith, before we head away as well. They are in practice three at Bethurst at the moment. And Feeney is fastest so far by Evanham Perkins, Wood Holdsworth. So it's obviously the B drivers are in the cars at the moment. Southern Kings, yes. Why did I say wild elephants? I don't know. He's just singing safari I suppose. Maybe it was the logo. Maybe it was the logo. Anyway, more texts. I know there are questions for BJ. That's questions for Dave Latelli. Questions for Chris Hibkins. Well, Joseph Sue Elite will make a difference at the war. That's he sure will, Chris. Very much looking forward to seeing how he goes. He'll take a while low. Am I from Kimberley? Hey, Stephie. The house you and Dean from Dunedin co-marketed a few weeks ago, sold ten days later. So the radio is going off to a different house on a hill over Yonder and Ricardo country. That's right. You had an open home and AC&Z was on the radio during the open home. And me and Dean were talking. Well, I'm pleased it helped sell the house. Renovations to start all over again. Thanks for your expert broadcast during the open home. I'm not doing a Bethurst menu this year. My life is in boxes. Stank tuned. Kimberley over and out. Good on you, Kimberley. You'll be listening though. You just won't be cooking. What do we decide we're going to do? Lost in the wash. Is that what we said? We're going to do that now. What's been lost in the wash today? I don't know. Yeah, let's get lost in the wash. Before we go to BJ Watling at 20 past, Steph. Raffa Nodal officially retired from professional tennis. First lost in the wash. So, Roger's finished. Raffa's finished. And we're Novik Finishes. Get ready. Get ready. Get ready for the world of tennis to change. Yeah, totally. If you turned up on upside down on its head. Janik Sinner and Carlos Alvarez. You'd like to say 1-2 peering for knocking out all the mages. Yeah, I'm more talking about off field. Are you talking about off court? Right, right, right. Okay, conspiracy. Round the Yennex in it. So, we need a name for you. Consiberacy, Steph. Something like that. I don't know. It doesn't really rhyme or anything. No, you can't. It's suspicious, Steph. Suspicious, Steph. Yeah, that's good. Just when Raffa announced his retirement, did he write it or did he say it? I'm not entirely sure. I'm not entirely sure. Just seeing headlines about it. It's quite amazing because it's far back as you can think. Raffa's been playing tennis. It's far back as you can think. I'm sure you can think back farther. But far back as I can think. Yeah, I can go back to... Yeah, that's true. John McEnroe and Yvonne Lindel and Matz Villando and Steph Anidberg. Hmm. There's others. Anyway, let's go to the next loss and wash. You're looking at me puzzled. I'm not sure if you were going to add anything. No. Okay, yeah. Next loss and the wash. Rooster's Coach, Steph, unfortunately has suffered basically a gas explosion, gas bottle explosion. Oh, what did he eat? Yeah, well, I think... What did he eat? No, gas bottle explosion. Oh, I guess bottle. Yeah, he's on the barbecue. On the barbecue. Trent Robinson and his wife are rushed to hospital yesterday, following a gas bottle explosion on a farm they were at. Wow. It's pretty big news. It's a pretty big business. He's in hospital Trent Robinson because they've got to monitor the lungs 24 hours after gas inhalation, I believe, so... Wow. Yeah, so he's in hospital currently and suffered burns. I'm not sure of what degree, but yeah, pretty big news in the office. That would scare the bejeezers out of here. So last... When I had my 21st death, I had a bit of a drunk uncle situation cooking the barbie that day. And old mate basically set fire to the barbecue and there was a fire underneath the barbecue. And I lived in a townhouse, you know, close proximity to my neighbours. No. And my mate was said to my mum, "Is this supposed to be a fire underneath the barbecue?" And she goes, "Oh, my God!" And then turned off the barbecue and, you know, our panic ensued. But yeah, almost had a gas bottle explosion myself a couple of years ago. And I've been freaked out of gas bottles ever since, to be honest. So I can't imagine Trent Robinson's PTSD from that event. Moving on, Tommity Ellison staff joins all blacks coaching staff on full-time capacity. Wonderful rugby mind, Tommity Ellison. Not a great radio interview, but a wonderful rugby mind. He was touted to be a future head coach of a super rugby team because he's been head coach of the Wellington Lions. He's been assistant at the Crusaders. They obviously like what they see of him. He's a real thinking man, Tommity Ellison. Good on him. Precisely. Good on him too. I agree. Harry Brookstaff finishes with 317 runs as England declare on Guess How Much. So there again. So he scored 317 himself. And I'm guessing the England total. Yeah. He got three, what number does he bet? He bets five. Oh god. So it's going to be more than double. Seven, seven, four, seven, like a plane. You're close. I think it was 823. I'll just do some... That's ridiculous. Yeah, 823. Yeah. For seven, basically. So they weren't even bolded out. And then Pakistan currently trail by 115 themselves. Because they made over 500 in the first innings. Oh, that's just not enough. It's just not enough. Their prediction on Google's is 51% draw, 49% England win. And there must be less than 1% Pakistan win. Really? Yeah. So there's... I think there's... They're on day four, so that was day three. And just a few stats from that. And England's first triple century since 1990. And Brooklyn Joe Root's fourth wicket partnership set a record, a world record of 454. Now, that must be... I've got here. It must be day... I've got Pakistan $61, draw $21, England $1. That can't be right. Well, one of them's wrong. Either your stuff. Well, likely me. I'm known to be wrong. I'm not smarter than a computer. But, yeah, pretty batting on a road, obviously. And then Ollie Pope in that innings got naught. Useless. There was so many memes. There's the table tennis strip, yeah. I've just got an update on Trent Robertson. So, John Quail, who's a former CEO, I think, of the Roosters, he said this is what happened. We were just having a barbecue. And about an hour after we'd eaten, a gas smell was there. So Trent checked the knob, and the knob ignited, and it blew up. They're both okay. Emergency services were called. We're in a pretty secluded area, but the ambulances came straight away. They were treated straight away with cold water and cold chows while the attendants treated them to make sure everything was okay. We summoned the helicopter. We're taken to the hospital. Sandra Robinson was kept overnight, and Trent was kept for two nights as they're both home now, and they're okay. So they're home now. It must have happened a couple of days ago then. Didn't know that. She's there to be scared of the bang. Totally. Totally. Next loss in the wash. Clayty McMillan's message to Hoskins to Todo, Steph. Just the same as all the other players. This is an opportunity to showcase your skills for higher honors going up to the old blacks. Interesting. Geez, that's deep. No, no. Blackfin and squad's been named, Steph, or the final WXV test against France. Oh, now I haven't seen this hand on heart. I haven't seen this. I bet they've changed half back first five. I believe so. Is it my Joseph and Hannah? No. Hannah King's number 10. Oh, okay. At a Tana, Ohio is number nine. Okay. It's only half back here. Ruhei's second five, but yeah. I don't know if you want to go through the squad one to 15. Steph, but I've got it written down in the runway. Give me the back line. I'll give you the back line. Okay. Hannah King, starting 10. Caitlin Baccolo, starting left wing. Ruhei de Mont, and... Um... Silver, your brand? It's not. It's someone else. Oh, I'm going to... Oh, no, no, it's Silver, your brand. Sorry. It is Silver. She's got the enormous... Yeah. I'm just looking at that name thinking, oh, my kick. How do you pronounce that? Uh, and then Alicia Lityainga, right wing, and then, uh... Mira Rangi, Paul, uh, signing footwork. Rangi Paul's a footwork, interesting. Okay. There we have it. Yeah, precisely. And then, uh, my solo Montoya, Steph, granted early release from his worries, contracts, expected to join the Bulldogs as Josh Attica's replacement. Oh, the Bulldogs. I thought it was West. Did you? Nah. I thought the rumor was West. Nah, nah, Bulldogs. I thought the Bulldogs. Well, he's Josh Attica, kind of go. Interesting. You know, stocks are foreign in terms of, you know, I'm not sure, actually. I saw someone on the text line text Sam earlier today about a potential swap deal between Montoya and Attica. Would you want the... What did you want Attica, the Warriors? I'm not sure if he kind of fits in. Mate, we've had Matt Lodge. Yeah, I get that, but we're on different times now, Steph. Yes, I know. Yeah. Last talk, can I read this? Oh, goodness me. Mark, love South Sydney. I can't read that out. Mark, you're just about track me. You're just about track me, Mark. Mark, love South Sydney. I can't read it. I can't read it. I can't read that. Can I, Jacob? You're reading it now. Yeah, probably not. It's a joke. We'll take a break. BJ Watling will be next. We'll come back in. We've just gone 20 past two, joining us now. Former Brett Capps for a week. Keeper, one of the best we've ever had joins us. BJ Watling. Welcome in, BJ. Thank you. Thanks for having me. What's your initial reaction after the recent test series that Brett Capps were involved in? How did you feel about it? Yeah, yeah. I mean, obviously results-wise. It didn't quite go any way. I know a couple of crucial tosses. I mean, especially in the subcontinent when the toss is reasonably crucial. And yeah, I think they'll be disappointed with obviously the results and the way things ended. But I still look at areas in particular that second test. I think it would have been a different story if they had managed to hold on to some of those chances early on in that first innings. And the game takes a completely different conflict. Lots to work on, but I think there was some really good stuff as well. The second thing, for example, I think the way they attacked the game came out with some different options and adjusted was good signs leading into India. What's it like being out there in those dust bowls with a repressive heat and you've got more clothes on than most people because you've got to have the pads and the gloves and it's thinking hot and you're on the receiving end. It must be so hard to stay positive at times when the other team with the bats in their hands are just dominating you. Yeah, it certainly can be. That's what test cricket is. It's a challenge. And I think that's what cricket is. A lot of about it too is, yep, we get to play in New Zealand and we know our conditions. But the challenge is being able to go overseas and playing in different countries, different pitches, different bounds, all that stuff. And that challenge really can drive you. But it can also be, yeah, quite a mental drain at time. We've got some big cricket fans that listen to the show. And of course, we broadcast all the cricket on the station as well. We had a guy ring up earlier and asked me if I could ask you about wicket keeping. And his words, he said he feels like we're a bit grabby instead of letting the ball come to them. They're sort of snatching and in the slips as well. The art of catching a cricket ball, I'd imagine there's a lot more to it than someone like me would understand. Yeah, I mean, everyone catches it differently. And if you look around the test sides in terms of keepers, everyone's got their own method. I know the English stood a little bit differently to say the Aussies, for example, and that comes through different conditions and different pitches. So I think the way you're brought up is kind of reflective of the way that you might catch a ball. I mean, as a coach now, I think it's about finding what works for you and your method. And I've watched Tommy B over the years. And I think he's a great keeper. I think he's catching the ball really well, moving really well. And yeah, it's always challenging and the sub-continent when the ball is spinning large or bouncing or potentially keeping low as well. So yeah, it's certainly, it's good fun when you're in the action in the keeper. Yeah. How did you learn, BJ? How did you become a work at keeper and learn the art of keeping? By doing, by lots of doing. Yeah. I think you just pick training wickets that might spin, training wickets that might be nice and fresh and green that kiss on and you just find certain ways to try and replicate what you can out of the middle. And when you're a kid, you're in the backyard on a piece of grass and that's just, yeah, I think you just do it and then do it and do it. Is it hard to stay in it because you're involved in every single delivery when you're in the field and you can be there for a day and a half, sometimes two days. Sometimes, it's a bit like when we're driving on the motor and you think, geez, I haven't really been concentrating because you have to concentrate every 30 seconds for a whole day and be fully concentrated. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Different guys are there, definitely, but this is the routine piece that you might have and trying to switch off between balls or switch off at the moment that you're actually not required to concentrate and I used to think of it as if the thing was running in. That would be the time that I'd start to switch on and obviously I'm watching the ball release out of his hand, so that's what, maybe five seconds, so 30 seconds and over. Mm-hmm. And if you work out like that and the rest of the time I might be drifting around a little bit or talking to Ross Scott's first slip or cane, a gully. You're really trying to get away from this game a little bit in the sense and, yeah, that was the kind of method that I tried to use and a bit of a laugh every now and then. You've evolved in coaching domestically and there's been a bit of, what's going to say, criticism or observation that there seems to be a reluctance to change the makeup of the black caps and to himself, and now these copter bit of criticism from the cricket public as well that how he kept getting picked when we've got Ben Sears over there with Matt Henry's been wonderful, but Tim got one of the two Cima ones. Will O'Rourke was brilliant? Have we got the stocks underneath the black caps to start pushing them up and having a crack? Yeah, it's a tricky question. I mean, I look at Tim and the things that he's done for such a long period of time, the experience that he's had, he's still a very, very skillful ball, and he's still got plenty to give to the scoring team. Look, unfortunately, there's a couple of tests there that he was unable to get going to picking up any wickets, but when I see him ball and I know it's a very widely, widely quicker, the likes are very exciting to see him coming in. He looks aggressive, you're tacking. So it's great to see these young guys coming through. I certainly think there are stocks around, but the challenge is, obviously, we've got nine tests in a row here. It's a tough ask, especially in the subcontinent, to keep backing up, keep backing up, keep backing up, and having the likes of them around that group, I think is extremely important. Moving forward. I wouldn't imagine there'd be a more mentally and physically taxing assignment than test cricket in India, because they investigate you every minute of those five days, whether it's batting, whether it's boomerang, whether it's spin bowling, the crowd, they can be quite chippy in the field as well. Is that one of the toughest test assignments on the calendar in India? Definitely, definitely. I think you will see challenge through the conditions, the heat, the humidity, the sweat, the cramps, bits and pieces like that, as well as a quality opposition that know how to play, especially in the conditions. The spinners and things that are both very challenging, and the crowd is an interesting one. Every single run they score, the crowd goes long, and it can be quite... It's an awesome atmosphere to be involved in, but you certainly know you're a mile away from New Zealand. If you were involved in that last test series, and you've got a few weeks off before the challenge of India, what, as a collective, will the black caps do, will they get together, formulate plans? Do you go away and work on yourself? How does it work because they have broken out? Some have come back to New Zealand, some have gone for holidays, and do buy some have gone on to India, and are doing a bit of work themselves. How do they address what went on, and then what needs to go on in the coming weeks? I'm sure this would have been happening over the last two or three months leading into this 90's match for each day. A lot of conversations and planning would have gone into this. Personally, I think guys will do it individually. Some will feel like a bit more practice, and doing a few actions will help their preparation others. I think it might have been to refresh, and getting away from the game can be extremely useful. I mean, you've got guys in different phases of their career. It's a very individual thing in terms of what they would be doing over the last week or the last few days or so, because it's grind, it's three test matches in India, so preparation's important, but also managing to refresh and mentally get ready for what will be a tough time and support them as well. So I imagine, yeah, individually they'll be doing their things that they feel at best. What words, finally, talking to BJ Watling, former keeper for the Black Ops, what would success look like for you in this three test series? And I'll lay mine out, if we can get one win, I'd say that's a successful campaign in India. Yeah, yeah, I'd like to challenge us to obviously win a test series or even draw a test series there. It's just certainly a tough assignment over there. Heaps is scrapping. Yeah, and without the results driven stuff, the results will be the results, but if we fought hard and pushed them hard in each of those test matches and certain situations, I think that would be a good marker for our boys and for our side. Awesome. BJ, really appreciate your time today. Mate, you're still involved. You're coaching ND last year, you're doing that again? Yes, yep, yep, got the ND boys again. Yeah, we were not far away from our now, our season and about a week's time, I think so. Looking forward to some cricket. Awesome, mate. Plenty of cricket. There we go. And a good summer and no rain. Let's go. Yeah, yeah, that'd be nice. Thanks for joining us today, mate. Thank you. It's so good that he's not been lost to cricket in New Zealand and he's still involved with Northern districts and looking forward to planning our cricket. And, of course, we have one day in our three day in our Super Smash All to Come, big summer of cricket coming. We shall take a break. Are you looking at me funny, Jake? I just wanted to say, you know, we have commentary of the Indian series, all three test matches on ECNZ from 5pm each day. Ball by ball. Ball by ball commentary. Perfect. Yes, with the likes of Daniel McCarthy. And Ko. It's going to be a great time. Well, I mean, something historic happened last time. The black caps went to India. So, I just crossed something similar happens. Yeah, we have straight memories off it, won't he? Yeah. Oh, my wordy will. All right. We'll have a break on the other side. A TV update and a weekend watch list. MUSIC TV update time. And if you were listening to Thad Taylor yesterday, he goes two horses in total. The first of which is running at the moment. End at one. Proseguir. And when he gave it to us, it was about the $5 mark. And I think it closed up at about $350. TT, he's on the board. He's on the board. The first practice session, or A practice session for Bathurst has just completed the updated market for Bathurst 1000 overall winner. C's car 88, the Fennie 1 Cup partnership as favourites. At 450, Wilbur Allen, Scott Pie are $5. Chance Mostert and Lee Holzworth 550. And then Waters and Moffett at Seven's. Matt Payne, the Kiwi. Alongside Garth Tander. $9 shot, the best of the Kiwis. Andre Heimgartner is at 21's and then it's out to comfortably double figures for the rest. So, Brock Feeney, who I think was favourite yesterday as well, remains favourite. In that, looking for some movement in the MPC market. Geez, well, I'm going to move in again. $1.16. Playing Counties, Menakea, who put 60 on them three weeks ago. 480 for Counties. 320 Hawkes Bay in the Battle of the Bays. Bay of Plenty of $1.30. Tarunaki 140 against, I think, the best chance of an upset for the weekend, Waikato. Sorry, Tarunaki folk. I'm not saying you won't win, but I think Waikato are going to be a searching assignment for you. And Tasman, $1.42, Canterbury at 270. If it goes to form, Wellington Bay of Plenty Tarunaki and Tasman will be your semi-finalist, but I just don't feel like we'll go through a whole weekend without one upset. We've seen so many upsets in this year's National Provincial Championship, which is the greatest rugby championship, provincially, in New Zealand. Shall we start calling ourselves World Champions? I definitely, which should be the World Series of Club Rugby. The Rugby World Series, just to take the piddle. I'd like that. I'd be like that. Actually, it's not the only upset we're banging for in the rugby this weekend. West Coast. Up to coast. West Coast, I can cheer for them now that Bull is gone. I'm going to fend the Bull of Boyce. The T.A.B. odds are all available. All the American sports is the boxing. It's the UFC for the weekend. The NPC, gosh, anything you want. T.A.B. code are oriented, but just download the app. Download the app. Am I all you there? Get the essay into your app as well. When you're having a flutter do it responsibly, please folks. It's sort of folding nicely into that. All of these will be on the weekend watch list. Yeah, too right, Steph. The weekend watch list. A lot of NPC action, obviously. We've covered that just now. And Heartland this weekend, but the Blackferns too. Play in France. Ooh. 11.45 this weekend. Is that Monday? I've been playing on Mondays. I believe so. I believe so. I'll check for you. Thank you. I'll check for you. Checking. There it is. It is 11.45 Sunday. Sunday. I thought it was Sunday, but I didn't want to say. Just before Bathurst. Which I think starts at midday-ish. Or the broadcast starts at 12 and the race starts at one. Yeah. I've got midday in my hair because I always make sure the dips in the fridge by 10 o'clock. Make sure it's chilled. What is your Bathurst spread? Normally. It's just junk. Just the chips. I just love sour cream and chives. Chips with magic onion soup and this late. Reduce cream. Yeah, here we go. It's pretty standard. And I might go dumplings this year. Yeah, well, I ordered the online supermarket thing the other day. Oh, yeah. We're through Woolworths and it's called the milk run. Yeah. And then your audio. And I just needed something. I just couldn't be asked with the traffic. So I ordered it. And it arrived 45 minutes later. And there were three massive packets of dumplings that I didn't order. Oh. Right. In the bottom of someone else's dumplings. Well, I don't know because it was in the same bag as all my other stuff. I think it was the packet swap. I don't know. I don't know. It's a dumpling frenzy this weekend. Well, now only Bathurst goers are going to have dumplings this weekend. I don't think any will, to be honest. I'm pretty sure I won't be the only one. I think you might be. Dumplings I think you might be. They're a magnificent food. Like, you know, food trucks going around. I'm sure there is at Bathurst. I've never been, but I presume there is. Yeah, there will be food trucks there. There won't be any dumplings. Food trucks. Definitely not. Do you not think? Just throwing it out there. Definitely just the hot dog and chit. Who's the legendary dumpling food truck? Is it called John's dumplings or something like that? Not sure. Yeah. I'll take your word for it. John's. Anyway, moving on to the next weekend watch list. Sport this weekend. Staff, the MBL, Round 4. The breakers aren't in action this weekend. Obviously, they're travelling back from the US. But I picked out a couple of games for you to watch this weekend. Thank you. Tonight, Adelaide 36's against the Sydney Kings. 930 on ESPN. Watch the Adelaide 36's last week against the Ella Warra Hawks. They won by two points. And Ella Warra. They've got this guy who's a point guard called Kendrick. I've forgotten his last name. No, it's not Lamar. He's not rapping on the court. He's a great basketball player. And he's outstanding and exciting. So I would, you know, tune in tonight to watch him play. And then I picked out the other team in that match up from last week. The Ella Warra Hawks. They're playing the Tasmanian Jack Jumpers. Saturday at 730 Chrome time. Tasmanian Jack Jumpers. Finalist last year. Presumed. Similar squad. It's a cool name. It's a great name. One of the best names in sport. I'm a Jack Jumper. I'm a Jack Jumper. Jumping the Jacks. And then Monday, Steph. It's not so much the weekend, I suppose. But it kind of falls under the umbrella. International football. All white second on Malaysia and North Harbour Stadium. Oh, they're playing here. Oh, yeah. And I believe $5 tickets if you want to hit along. And you're hitting along. I will be hitting along. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going. You're a good fan, Jacob. Thanks. You are a good proper fan. Yeah. I am. You go to life at V. That's so, so, so, absolutely. No, I'm serious. I mean, I do try and go to. I mean, he was going to be in the office. You're doing a drive by an old B man again. Brendan Wellington. Huge Wellington Lions fan. He admitted today. He waxes on about being a Wellington Lions fan. Do you know how many games he's been to in his lifetime to support the Wellington Lions? Over under ten. Nine. Oh, okay. And none is an adult. None is an adult. That's pretty special. That's pretty special. And he was dragged along. And he's wearing a Wellington Lions jersey today, so disgraceful. That's pretty crazy. He's probably dropped over a grand on Wellington merchandise or hurricanes merchandise. And he's... Yeah, never goes. Interesting. Good on you for going, mate. I respect that. Thanks. It kind of goes along with the football starting next weekend. I'm really looking forward to staff. So, this is... Or this is... Or this weekend after. Or clean F.C. Brisbane Raw. Mounts Mart. Go media. Go media. Yeah, go media. When how many you'll go? Well, I heard in the week that they'd sold out their membership block at Mounts Mart. So, hopefully a few. I unfortunately won't be going, but I know a few people that will be. It'll start with a bang, won't it? Oh, you'd imagine so. And hope so. And then the week after, staff. Is the week after, week after that. Second of November, nevertheless. I'll be heading down to Sky Stadium to watch Auckland F.C. take on Wellington. The Wellington Phoenix. That will be an occasion. That'll be so good. I'm so looking forward to it. What an occasion. Yeah. But obviously, that's not on this weekend. And we're doing the weekend watch. Let's see. Back to it. Back to it. The NFL staff, week six action, as I picked out the Ravens Commanders game for a reason. Ravens Heavy favorites on the TAB market. But the Ravens, two quarterbacks going head to head. So, Daniels, the quarterback for the commanders, just drafted in the last draft. Going to be headlining the NFL sort of, you know, quarterback stocks for years to come. He's had an amazing start to the season. All those are points. So can the Ravens. That's happening at Monday, 6 a.m. So I would definitely keep my eyes peeled for that if you're excited for a bit of NFL action. My last week. You quarterback too. Yeah, exactly. He's making a lot of headlines this bloke out of LSU and LSU. Don't tell me. Louisiana State University? Correct. Is it? Yeah, yeah. That was just an absolute guess from nowhere. It was some w, a genius and you are one. Yes, thanks. BJ mentioned scraping in the interview. Oh, actually, yes. Scrapping and fighting. Yes. Right. Look at what he's talking about. Fighting. So he mentioned scraping in the interview. And he was a fantastic example of that. How many times did he apply himself at the crease when we needed to hang tough for crucial moment of the game? And he was a top keeper too. Hope we apply some grit against India. Jared. That's why I went to BJ because I really miss the make up of a player like BJ Watling. That absolute not having my bucket. I don't care about runs. You can all cry at me. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't give them up my bucket. Just that. He planted the back of the car going up the mountain last night from Pete. There's a true Bethus fan. Pete knows all the deals. Chris, can you confirm the strong rumours about Sean Stevenson signing with the Warriors to place Montoya? Cheers, Chris. I can confirm the are strong rumours. But I can confirm if the rumours are true. But I can confirm there is a lot of talk. It's about the third time there's been a lot of talk about Sean Stevenson to leak. But I feel like this one's just got a little bit more weight to it. And when has Godfather Beaver was asked about it on their own home about going to say about six weeks ago? I think Beaver texted him or called him and he said no. That's the last I heard too. But that was the last rumour. I asked Beaver about a fortnight ago, Ash, and he basically laughed it off. So yeah, I don't know. But obviously when there's smoke, there's fire staff. Or is it embers? Is it just embers? Yeah. It's kind of low-hanging fruit in terms of a rumour. I want to know where it started. Yeah. And who knows? But who knows where the last rumour started too? Because the mole got a hand of it over across the ditch. And he's a big room man in the narrow world. And I think the word discussion's being held. But ultimately he ended no. But now that Sean Stevenson has missed all the all-black tests this year, he's limped into the all-black 15, which is really a bridesmaid's dress. He wants a bridesmaid's dress. And... I'm sure he wants a groom's dress, but yeah sure. I mean, groom's suit, I say. He does want to be second all the time. And what's... you get a game and a bench probably? It seems a bit token. I do agree. Is there a... please stay. Same with Hoskins. From my perspective, and I don't know about yours, but it does seem a bit token. Like, you know, Clayton McMillan coming out saying that he's just as... He could have said something special because there's all these rumours. He could have been like, Hoskins got to do this. He's got to do that. And then fans know, you know, he's within a shot of making the all-blacks at some point in his career. I'm still not over the Ricky Riccatelli. That one's pretty... I'm dumbfounded by that one as well. I've been searching my head for two days. I just cannot figure out what the reason is. I can't... I can't... Like, even if they gave us a reason and I disagreed with it, at least it's the reason. It's like Hoskins' attitude, which doesn't do it on both sides of the ball. I sort of think maybe he does, but they don't. At least I've got the reason. Yeah, fair enough. And now I'm just like mystified. I just... I don't know. I don't know. We shall take a break before the news. Text us, double eight, double three. If you like anything on your mind, happy to share it with all of our listeners. Text from Costa is a good rugby supporter as Costa. Hey boys, I'd love the NPC to replace Super Rugby. But how do we pay for all those new full-time professional players? Five teams going into fourteen, or are you going to have semi and full-time professionals and playing in the same comp chairs? Yeah, cost will be quite high. You take all the money from the five, all the existing money from the fourteen and add that to the money from the five, and it's still going to be quite short compared to the poor team. But no travel to Australia, and we know how expensive that is. Like on the Good, the Bad, the Rugby podcast, down in Shen, the former all-black manager said it costs about fifty grand a day for the all-blacks to be away. Just the all-blacks. Fifty grand a day. So if they're away for... Well, you do the massive, they go on a six-week tour, and it's fifty grand a day. Man, that's astronomical. So Australia probably wouldn't be quite as expensive, but we've got five teams going there, I don't know, three weeks a year, something like that. So that would cut. It wouldn't be too hard for someone at NZR to do a feasibility cost study. But then you start bringing in the international commercial partners. They produce some money out of America, out of Japan, and they can buy in to all of these teams. The relationships are already there. There's a memorandum of understanding between New Zealand rugby and Japanese rugby, which I don't really know quite what means. Okay, Steph, this is on why Ricky Ricci Tally isn't being picked. I'll give you the reason they don't believe he plays the style of game that a hooker in 2024 has to play. He's too tight, he doesn't get in the wide channels, and he's very narrow in the field. He's also considered not a great tackler around Ricky Ricci Tally. Thank you for giving me a reason, Texta. The reason is Jason Ryan. Simple as that. Ask Akira. Cutting. Cutting. Ken, you could be right though. I'm going to take a break for the news. Dave LaTally, just a great man, forced to close his food share. He's a devastated man, and I said, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Dave LaTally next. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Just gone two o'clock here on Essie. Normally the Jeremy Paul Shobard, he's away at a lunch, but a lot of people that can't have lunch is what has driven this man to do, what he does for the community for so long and toil so hard. And I was going to say one of the most selfless people I've ever met, but he is the most selfless person I've ever met. I met a very young and a very large Dave LaTally before his very first boxing fight, and I could see something in that man's eyes. Little did I know that stepped forward quite a few years, and he is one of the biggest difference makers in our society, and he's had to pull a rug from under himself through lack of support. Dave LaTally joins me, some will know him as the Brown Bartimene, I just know him as a champion New Zealander. Dave, I rang you this morning, mate, about you having to close the doors on your food share that's been invoked for about the last four years, and I've shared with the listeners, you sounded the most upset, the most broken that I've ever heard your mate, so I invited you to come on and share your story. I'm heartbroken for you, Dave. Yeah, thanks for having me on, but it's just, you know, it's a nightmare. I'm trying to catch myself because I just feel like, you know, I'm pretty down about it all. I'm in a bit of a spiral of eating crap at the moment. Just some chips in a kebab, you know, knowing that I feel bad as soon as I finish the last bite, and I'm just trying to catch myself in. Can you get out of it? Like me, I can't quite believe, but I do believe that you got $87,000 from the government, and when I read that, sitting next to it was a headline that they're putting, like, $3 billion into roading and stuff. You don't need much on the wider scale to help. I don't know, you tell me how many people you've been helping. Well, man, I mean, even at our low scale now of, you know, 200 families we're doing, if you look at that, extrapolate that out, you know, if you go on the average of four or five people, you know, thousands of people, and some of the homes we go to is 10, 15 in the house. And the thing is that it's not just, you know, we're not just handing out food, we're helping with employment, helping with fitness, you know, a true community. You know, we've lost this part. It's, you know, we don't need much of it. They keep talking about social investment, all these words that they use, and we're going to take the money out of the bureaucracy, put it into the community. We're all still waiting, you know, we have social investment out out, built English Impact Lab Report, you know, former national leader going to report on us, a $13 return for every dollar invested. You know, what we do works, we support all these other smaller groups, supporting thousands of people, yet we just struggle, you know, I just can't continue to bridge the gap. And I've been hopeful, waiting, and wait, it's not just this government, the last one too, you know, it's like all governments, you know, like, we're just like, we're here, we're waiting. And it's always the same, we get leveraged and used, and, but now we just can't continue. Otherwise, we're losing everything, you know, and I just can't risk that. You're out there doing it, living it, seeing it, experiencing meeting these people who are on these hard times. I want to read you a text message I got. These are the words of a text, and I think a lot of people think this, so I just want you to clear this up. He says, we've just had six years of handouts from the previous government, which has perpetuated the getting something for nothing mentality that exists in sections of our society. The thought of kids going hungry is bloody sad, but you have to ask yourself the question, what are the parents of these children doing? Or why do people who can't support children keep having children? I know if my kids were starving, I'd get a job and treasure it and make sure the kids were the priority. There's plenty of jobs out there, Steph, believe me, don't get me wrong, I have huge admiration for Dave and what he's doing, but maybe instead of him being an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff, we need to think of strategies to get the parents of these children to have a different mindset. That's from Vince. I know you do that and other stuff as well, so can you two explain to us, you're not just standing there at a warehouse handing people food. It's more than that. No, I mean, first of all, if that's the sentiment of a lot of people, what we've got to understand is, it doesn't matter what you think of the parents. It doesn't matter. It's not the kids' fault. It's not their choice. You talk about why they're having kids. What effect does they are? These kids exist. They are here and they're in need. It's not their choice. You have no choice of the family you're born into, the environment you're being raised in, and if we don't help those parents and those children, those children become the parents, but worse. Every generation gets worse and worse and worse. If we want a better New Zealand for all of our grandchildren and future generations, we better help. The thing is, with what we're doing, I've been saying this every speech I give, there's so much the government are investing all this money in police cars and ambulances at the bottom, but they're not investing anything in a sense before the edge of the cliff. On the other end of what we're doing, we have a recruitment company. We're helping people into work. We have our Mums and Buzz program where we wrap around the support to get these Mums into a work or into a further study. We're helping, we run use programs where the whole idea is to equip them with basic life skills, to get their license, to get their tickets, to get them into work or to further study. We have programs from the couch where we're helping Mums, thousands of people who are from the couch where we wrap around the health system and the social system around the community so that we can save lives. Now, when I'm talking to bureaucrats and people that don't understand, we have to invest now with what we're doing, so say with the health stuff because by the time they present the hospital, it's almost too late. Not everyone's going to go there and wait six hours, so they wait and wait and wait. They have multiple long term health conditions and it's costing us millions. Why don't we invest a little bit in programs like ours that have proven to work. We've got impact lab reports. We've got messy and Auckland University studies that shows this is unbelievable, this program. What we're doing is we're going to save millions of millions of dollars, the most important thing, it's going to save lives. If we just focus on health, because we have our health programs, so this system, it's always top down. So they invest in this obesity clinic where they give people optifars to get them skinny enough to get the operation. If they can afford it, that program got 1.4 million in the third year, 2.9 this year, million dollars. We, our program from the couch, gets $216,000 and if only until next year. And we see 30 people at a time, we do three or four cohorts a year in West and South Auckland. And yet we still struggle and it's proven. I understand where Vince is coming from and that's exactly what we're doing. But no matter what, I keep going back, no matter what, there's choice implies equal starting points and not all kids are born into equal starting points and we must help. We have to put everything aside, politics aside, ego aside, we must help these kids. People that come to you, it's not a first resort, it's a last resort, isn't it? When they come to you for the food, which you're going to have to close the doors on, which breaks my heart, but you don't just give them a box of food and seeing them on the way. I've seen you guys operate. I'll give people an example of what happened to me one day, right? And did you start this in 2020, COVID time, wasn't it? COVID out of COVID, yep. The nature of people is to help, but they don't know how. I went to the supermarket and bought 200 bucks worth of groceries and took it down to your warehouse there. And they were cast queued up, donating food and cast queued up, picking it up. That's the society I want and I don't know why we haven't got there, Dave. Look, I don't get it either, I don't understand why we have to be so far left or so far right. Why can't we encourage success, celebrate success, encourage our children to be successful and be rich, but not forget to help the less fortunate. Why is that so hard? I don't understand. Another example, Bo, about a month ago, I get a Facebook message from a lady who's in public order watching a young mum with two young children outside of her house. Search being searched by the police. Outside of the kids' school bag, they pull out sausages, bread and butter outside of the kids' school bag. So no wonder we had more and more crime. It was just got to help. I go to the last school holidays, I go to a grandmother's house, got five of the grandkids, right? She felt like she had to prove to me just how poor she was. Opens up her fridge, half a dog, roll pick at a truck steak, opens up the cupboard empty box and we fix in a bottle of coconut oil with five grand children. If I didn't help, what would have happened? They go to wins, make an appointment, we can see you in five days, but they need food now. It's the thing, it's just the basic necessities of life. How can we expect these people to work their way up and to break these cycles? I don't even have the basics. We've just got to put it all aside. If we don't invest now long-term, that's another thing that all governments don't get. You have to invest long-term with a long-term view of thinking, "Okay, we're going to invest now. It's not going to be immediate. We're not going to see immediate results, but for our grandchildren, they're going to be living in a better New Zealand." You do, the Food Bank is what we're talking about, you're from the couch program. Can you give us a couple of living breathing examples of lives you've saved and lives you've enriched? There's some huge people start from the couch program. One of our team leaders now who runs from the couch is a guy called James. Sean Fitzpatrick's nephew, actually. I met Sean and he was crying. How well James was going. He turned up a couple of years ago. He has lost now 140 kilos. His whole "why" and purpose was wanting to be able to stand on the sideline and watch his son play a whole game of rugby. He couldn't stand for five minutes. He's lost only almost 140 kilos, but not just the weight loss. He's gained life. He now works for me four times, hadn't worked in years. We've got Phil who's lost 150 kilos, just moved to Australia, worked for me for five years, hadn't worked in 15 years. He was on a sickness benefit. 15 years, massive lymphed edema in between his legs, which would leak multiple long-term health conditions. We've got people left, right and center reversing type 2 diabetes. It's all proven. You've got people that couldn't drive to see us because they couldn't fit behind the steering wheel now driving. That's the whole thing. We're trying to take people from the couch and into work and living their best life. That's what it's all about. It's with support from total health care. We wrapped around the clinical support. We wrapped around the social support, and we're there, like you were talking about. This is the community I want to live in where we're there for each other. If you fall down, we're there because not everyone, we have to understand. Not everyone has good friends and family that can help when times get tough. Life is not fair. If we can help, we should live that way. This can be a better place. You get lots of visits from politicians and these lots of handshaking and lots of nodding and lots of smiling and photo opportunities. Do they say one thing and don't follow through without naming names? Yes, 100% they all do. Look, I've just learnt. We have a really big following, and it's growing. I think one of the benefits with us is that we're across the board. We have mainstream support. We've got all nationalities, all people from all walks of life support our work. It doesn't matter about the politics, they support our work. They keep coming to us because they know we've got the people and it's always the same. I'm left. I'm so hopeful. Every election, everyone, I'm so hopeful and then nothing. I just want to clear up as well. A lot of people have been commenting about, "Oh, he should have got some of Mike King's money." We need to understand that Mike King hasn't got $24 million in his account. It's what that does to him. The way that I've structured that is it could be the end. But it's very tough. We need to ease up. He hasn't got $24 million in his account living off the interest. A lot of text messages saying, "How do we help Dave?" Jimmy says he's going to throw some money and says, "Is he and his listeners do one less punt at the TFE this week, or pledge our winnings that will help surely?" I know you've got to say, "What's the easiest way for people to help and improve that they want a society like you and I have talked about?" You can just search bbmprograms.com, and you just hit the donate button. Or just search for bbmdonate and Google, you'll find it. The thing that everything we get goes to where it's needed. That's the first time. I'll share another story with the listeners. I, through the bbmprogram, I lost 15 kilos and my clothes didn't fit. So instead of taking to a close shop, I put them in big canvas bags and I took them down to your guys. Your people came up and hugged me. Two guys had tears in their eyes. One guy had to go for a job interview and now he had a suit to wear. And I didn't have to do it. That was so easy for me to give something to make someone's day. And I don't think people realise how us normal people that have our 9 to 5s and we have our power and we have our fridges and we have our cupboards. They don't realise how something really small to us can be really big to someone else. Yeah, it's just, I mean, again, it's just making, I mean, you know, you think of that and how good did that feel? Amazing. You know, and, you know, we had, I mean, you know, people just don't, a lot of people don't understand. You know, we helped, a lady, we helped the lady get work. So we, she came to pick up a food parcel of us. We support it. When she, when we were loading the food in, this was last week, we quickly realised she's actually living in her car. So she wants, so this is what people have this stereotype of, all these lazy bums not wanting. That's a small minority. You can't treat everyone because of the actions of a small minority. So this lady's wanting a job, she got her a job living in her car. I said, look, I'm going to pay for you a motel so we can find something. When couldn't help her because she's single with no kids, so she can't get any help, right? She didn't want to take our help of the motel to, you know, too proud. Got her a job and then I put a post up on LinkedIn and today she's moved into her house, you know, from a guy from LinkedIn. Like you, little thing that he could do and it's just, it's amazing. Is it too late, Dave? Have you had anyone reach out in the last couple of days? Have you had anything meaningful happen? Nothing solid. Wayne Brown's office reached out yesterday and asked how much it would take to keep it open. Look, I never say never. I don't want to close it, both. Oh, I know you don't. You know, and so we, you know, Christmas is our cutoff after Christmas. You know, that'll be it unless something sustainable comes along because, you know, so I'll give an example, bro. Like, you know, we've got so much press conference. This is how tough it's one people to understand. Just how, I mean, everyone, it's tough and we get it. So over these last two days with all the media we've gotten and we're very grateful for this, but we've gotten just over five grand in donations. Again, very grateful. It's going to go to great cause, but that's how tough it is. Even with all this media coverage we've gotten, you know, it's just no one's got any money. And the people that do have an unspinning. So as we all know, it's tough. David Talley, I love you, mate. I love everything about you and it hurts me so much to see how much you put in. And the people that should be helping you aren't. And that's what guts me. I know Jack and Joe along the street, we've had people saying they're donating today. I know, and it's a difference and you'll be grateful. But holy shit, we need the big boys to bloody do what's right. Yeah, you know, it just makes such a huge difference, you know. So, you know, I always think the way I live, if I can help, I do. So if you're out there, you know, it doesn't take much, you know, in the scheme of things for what we need. And the return is huge. David Talley, much respect, mate. Much love, brother. Thank you so much for everything. Cheers, boy. David Talley there. I get emotional listening. He's 24/7 helping people. And I just feel like some people in power are 24/7 not. When they put into places of position where that's what they're supposed to do is help people. This isn't free handouts. This isn't luxury items. This is mince and potatoes and vegetables. And he does cooking classes. He does classes helping kids how to write CVs, how to conduct job interviews, how to dress, how to speak. He gets over 200 kilo people and get them losing track loads of weight and feeling good about themselves. He feeds kids that are born into families that when you're born, you don't choose what family you're in. You're in the family you're in and I could go on. I was going to say we need more David Talley's, but we don't. We need more people in areas of influence that have been put there by the public to help our societies to do just that and the bloody not. $87,000 from the government to his food share that is supporting 200 families at a time, which is over 1,000 people. And now he's having to say no. And I know deep down here, when those doors close, he will take on personally that he will feel he is closing the door himself on 200 families. And that will break him. Oh, BBM program is the website. If you can do, if you can't, I'm not saying you have to, but just a little something which I'll be doing as well. We shall take a break. We'll come back shortly. We're right standing in the league. Your spirit just goes clean. Attentional Panthers, it's Kledo's Terps. Welcome in to the wonderful, to one and the only, Mark Kledo. Good afternoon, Steph. How you going? Oh, good. I'm always good on a Friday when this group won racing the next day. It just makes me sleep a little bit better. Oh, it's just opening about it, just an edge from Wednesday when the fields come out. There's a release to the week, isn't there? There sure is. And it's disappointing for Hawks Bay that the Livermore meeting isn't going to be at Hawks Bay. But I mentioned a fair tailor yesterday. The Terrapa Trek pretty much affords all runners an even chance with that big straight. I love a racetrack with a long straight. Oh, so do I. They just absolutely love them. And saying that leaders can win up a long straight, so everybody gets their chance. That's a beautiful thing about it, isn't it? Yeah, it is. Should we just go straight to the big dog, first of all, the Livermorel? Goodfield. Five hundred and fifty thousand, you'd hope so, Steph. Getting up there, isn't that the stake money? Right, and I almost think these big racers are the hardest to pick because just about every horse has got a chance, because they've got their own merit. Well, yeah, this is the grand final for a lot of them, and you know, they'll be named specifically at this rate. So, you know, this is the gold middle race tomorrow, and so that's what you've got to really do your homework and be on top of your game. And, you know, everybody's there to win, everybody's a winning chance. We don't need to do our homework because we get you on at 2.30. You do the homework for us, Kledo. Please, please, share. Yeah, well, look, like you say, it's real open to heavy track at the moment. Even if it's heavy, you'll just dip some to flow tomorrow, or soft. I think it's dipped to soft already. Oh, isn't it, okay. Oh, you're more up with the plate than me. And, look, Rawls, the ortho-ray to come over. Anything pushed on, put lit a pose, ended up on Wednesday at Metamata. Nearly won the 2,000-metre race. So, Harry Grace has come over. He's a very accomplished rider. And I just think a roller coaster, the Rawls has been on, I think. It's sort of a 50-gate drifting, but I think he's a big show tomorrow. What sort of patent is there to sit sprinters up on the pace kind of horse? Oh, he's still a teamy, like you've flooded in nicely about four to fifth last time. So, you know, you can work across Harry and, you know, these good riders can get in. And there'll be a lot of jockey in position. I mean, you know, saying as if you don't get in, you could be crucified out there three wide to trip. I see, it's about 750 grand, too. So, it's won some decent races. We've got a million-dollar win-a-thon Campionessa, the Tangerine Army, Opie Boston, Group 1. My God, favourite. Raw nicely. Can't find anything wrong with it. No, no, she's a real leading hope, Campion. There's a beautiful mirror and, you know, this race fits nicely for her. I tell you what, the Smoky, the Smoky. Mm-hmm. And I think it's her first run over 2,000 metres. She sort of been kept a sprinting up to a mile, but, gee, molt kind. That's the lovely little girl, and I think she might. Just first time over a mile in a quarter, you might be saying a short enema. When you pop me over at 2,000, five years ago, I'd be screaming out for 2,000. But I think she could get away with it. Her run at Madamata was really good, even though she watched the start. But we know she got a turn of a foot on her, like not many horses have them. Ace, more than Carol, he said, that Group 1 ride at the Arrowfield start, eight. So, you'll know what it's all about. And some of them attract to rural Carca when he gets wet. So, I'm a big believer in rural Carca, all of them, Toronto, all sort of, you know, coping with both. Nice, nice little balance there. What about any of the earlier races, Cladock? Well, I think in the first race, Kiwi Skyhawk was really good when he won. He's a two-year-old taken on the older horses. He had a first start and run third knee synthetic win. In the run, I thought it'd drop, even though he's run fourth, it's a favour. And I still think it was a really, really good run. And another one by contributor, and Matt Carrite, he's kicking a few goals. So, I think Kiwi Skyhawk's a good way to start the day. Well, it must be good because that's the first ever favourite you've tipped us. So, it must be bloody good. Oh, sorry. No, that's fine. That's fine. It endorses it as a pick to me. Well, I'll tell you what's there. It is an all-driving put up with a scratching, but it's a really, really hot field. And the filly right down the bottom, I don't know if she's still in, but try it. It's got a bit of a sticky gate, though. They might not go there, but I'll tell you what, try a star or something pretty special. Aye, star is the number 13. And that's paying eight bucks. Not bad, drawn 11. Craig Grills pays the bills. Craig Grills, he pays the bills. Yes, he's a lovely filly, say. Grills, he was the board at Topo. Yeah, Topo, Topo, Topo, so. Knows the filly well, and it's picking with us, so wherever they go, we'll try a star. Very nice. That's race one and race nine taken care of. Is there anything in the middle of that sandwich? Well, I did like one in the last, and the track might have come back to a soft. And look, she's been knocking on the door all winter. Got over on last started to wrap on a Sunday meeting. And she just absolutely roped, and that was locked a train. And I think number 11, number 11, number 11. Yep. Race number 11 is at nine bucks, drawn to Matt Carr. I've become a big fan of this Aussie boy, Matt Carr, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. I think you and a lot of us have staffed us, told himself well, and rides really well. And he's enjoying this time in New Zealand, so. Do you think you'll stay here, or is he here for a season, and then? Look, look, why, why would you leave at the moment? You know, they've got the, you know, the Melbourne Cup count on the line. Basically, he's doing a great job here. He's getting the pick of the rides here. No, all powered on, stay here. Stay here. Through to the end of the year, and see how it goes. And then we've got the Auckland Cup count on it all through to Mahatch. And, yeah, I'd, I'd think about it then, but I reckon he's found his niche. Yep, nice. What are the big races out of Aussie tomorrow, Clayton? Oh, there's plenty of core-filled guineas tomorrow at a core field, and the two rack. We've got our old catch, we'll go around on the two rack, and up against gives it lightning. Another one of our former Kiwis, who was the one that last start. So looking forward to that late in the piece tomorrow afternoon. Nice. Are you staying on late, late, late again? You're stamping the invoice with time and a half for everything? Well, time and a half. Oh, yeah, forgot about that. I might have to re-dig that invoice. No, no, we don't do that. But, um, my, it's a marathon effort. I tell you what, about two or three o'clock, how about three? We could have looked at each other and was like, man, this is hard work. And boy, I tell you what, the last two and a half hours just blew by with that good racing. And we're bouncing around in our chairs at the end of it. And the sun that we love and, you know, we've loved the game. And boy, it didn't fail to disappoint last Saturday, and it won't. It won't. You're on in. Right. Who is warming the chairs in this studio with you tomorrow? Um, and now I'll have Steve McKee, I'll stickie. He'll be in there with me, and Matt Rothonowski in the Wellington studio. Beautiful. All right. The three-headed monster bringing you the racing tomorrow. Awesome, Kledo. It'll be a ripper of a day, um, group racing in New Zealand, group racing in Australia. Oh, you wouldn't rather be anywhere else anyway. Yeah. Who wouldn't want to be a punter? That's a raping enthusiast. Good on you, Kledo. Thanks, buddy. Thanks. So much. Tune into the Good Oil tomorrow from 12 to God knows how long they go until the big races are finished. And, yeah, tomorrow is the Might and Power group one race. There's the Herbert Power Stakes as group two. The big screen listed race. Uh, the Corfield guineas as he mentioned. Broadside in $1.60. Holy hecka. Um, the Scallachi Stakes, which is a group two race as well. It is a full board of big races, and it finishes with the two-rack group one. The last race on the card. So that goes at 7.45. So they'll be here till then. It's another eight-hour day in the studio. And he mentioned orchestral, will we starting tomorrow? $11 chance. Favourite in that one is a horse called another Will. Desert Lightning at the $7 mark. We're not far away again to Jimmy Smith, but before we do that. Some text messages after I spoke to Dave LaTali. Um, sorry, but Vince needs to get a boot up the arse and told to clear off staff. People are struggling, choose Ken. That's why I read it, Ken. And I'm not going to point my finger at Vince, but I don't, thankfully, people fully understand what Dave LaTali and Butterbean do. Um, fitness classes, work experience. He reaches out. He's got really good context, but context don't pay the bill. So he gets people into jobs. He does a wonderful job. Uh, Ken says, "I'm doing it, Steph. I'm donating." He sends some help to these great people. I think he can. Steph, there's a company in Petoni here called Kibosh. They get food, supermarkets are going to throw out and give it to community groups. I'm sure Dave has seen or thought of something similar. There is a group in Auckland called, ah, I went to a function of these last year. It's called something like dinner for all or meal for all or something like that. And they do exactly that. And they've got a cafe and they, they, you go in and you don't have to pay. You pay what you're comfortable paying. And some people can't pay anything. They're in, um, only hunger. Uh, Paul, you hit a, you hit the nail on the head. A lot of people will be criticizing the parents and in some cases, fair enough. But the kids don't choose the life they are brought into. And that's the point, Paul. Thank you, good sir, for reiterating that. Steph, you mate, you're a bloody good man. That hit a nerve in me. Are there any listeners out there in the tiny house business? Should I organize a big game of pub cricket? I'll catch a pig. I'll sell the beers and all proceeds go to Dave. If he needs any work done at his facility or any of these homes or whatever, me and my crow will all jump in. Jimmy, I tell you what, reach out to Dave. He's, he's very reachable. Uh, LinkedIn, he uses a lot and he'll reply to you. Um, he's got, he's got Instagram. He's, he's all over the place or his webs, or his website, BBM program. If you reach out with the offer of service or any help, anyone, any help you think you can give, do contact Dave LaTali. We should take a break. Jimmy Smith next. Jimmy Sydney. Um, I'm sure Mark Stephan and the crew over there at SCNZ would be very jealous of me right now. Hang on, just another... Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh, yes! We're at, can you paint the picture when you look out the window, what you see? Yeah, I'm above the pit, so I had to walk, uh, not quite half way up the hill, but it's, you, you know, the track, right, you're coming down Conrad Strait, and they've just got the elbow there to take the speed out of that last corner. Yeah. That's where we are. In the Barbecues Galore Steakhouse, thanks very much. Oh, no, you're just reaching food to me at 245 New Zealand time when I'm very hungry and having had lunch, Jimmy. Have you haven't had lunch? No, I don't. What's your strategy? What's your strategy? Do you eat at, say, 10 a.m. and then push through to three? What's your strategy? Now, this, this'll make you close. I eat once a day at about Hub Us 4. Oh, you're one of those guys. Yeah, but we- You're one of these intermittent fasters, are you? Yeah, not without giving it their title, but by definition, I can say. I've had a text to the show, Jimmy, from T. Oh, yeah. And he says- Oh, good. Well done. Things must be looking up over there then. You like the start of it. Hey, Stevie. Jimmy Smith was right. That's right. And he goes on. Olivia Könick should have won the Karen Luffy medal with the stats and performance she put up, but she never made the jillaries. I will forever now call it the Jimmy Smith calls when deciding player of the match. Well, yeah. My thought was around the NRL game, but that's a crazy situation that we have ourselves. And now the NRL is investigating. And how do you run that investigation? Who do you get to run that investigation? You know, like, you can't get Peter Bellandes to go, oh, yeah. She played pretty well. Yeah, she probably- No, but I didn't put her in the show because this was- Oh, right. Like, you know, everyone's got their own opinion and Brad Donald, of course, is entitled to his, but I tell you what, the evidence was quite overwhelming about Olivia Könick. Has he given us reasons? Yeah, he said she was just outside the squad. He said that she came off the bench for New South Wales in the state of origin series, that was a little bit misleading because in the first two games, she wore number 15, but she started both games, started the third game in Jersey number 13, and was basically the central figure in all of Kylie Hilde's attack for the first three- for the first two games of the series. I'm like, dude. You didn't watch. You didn't watch. Well, I don't want to say he didn't watch. Of course he watched, but he maybe didn't watch closely. I don't know. Like, are you split-screening it with something else on the Friday night? On the Thursday night? I don't know. I don't know. But the big news, Jimmy, and you'll be delighted with us. Vintage SJ. Here we go. Go on. Go on, Coach Kate. Give it to us. Come on. Sean Johnson, with the little one two step off the left, put it's vintage SJ. Yes, boys. Oh. You know what? I will say, Staffy, when there was talk about Sean coming back when Jerome Hughes was available, and I was like, no, no, no, no, no. But when Jerome Hughes was unavailable, I say well done Stacey Jones on attracting Sean Johnson out of retirement. Now, I don't think New Zealand are going to beat Australia. I think they're going to have their hands full with Tonga. Yeah. But what a great interest provider for this Pacific championships with Sean Johnson coming back. It is. Well, he wasn't the player he used to be all season, and the fact he's been for two runs in four weeks, and he'll probably be running right now. We're here. He's got a suspect Achilles, but he's just said you never turned down the black jersey, and Stacey obviously put a good taste to him. And just the knowledge in his mind. I don't think he'll play 80 minute games at all. But having him back in the camp, we're feeling pretty good about it. And you should be feeling good about it. And this is going to be a really challenging series for New Zealand, who last year, as we know, 30-nil over the Kangaroos, it's a very different looking squad. It's a different coach there in Stacey Jones. So this is going to be straight into the fire, isn't it, for Stacey Jones. Up against Malmaninga, who has spoken basically for 12 months about how disappointed he is in the performance of the Australian side, and has selected a team that suggests he's got one eye on the 20-26 rugby league World Cup, but has very much two eyes on winning the Pacific Championships in 2024. A question for you. Josh, don't care. Where does he finish up? Is there anything happening? Do we know if he's going to play for someone next year? I would suggest he plays for someone. I'd be very surprised if he played for the Bulldogs. I heard it mentioned this morning, Michael Carriano shot it down straight away. Addo card of the yields, no. Addo card of the dragons. Well, the other point about it is, so you're always going to wonder what price you get, Josh Addo card. And now with this latest incident, and there was a heap of incidents at the start of this year, and at the end of last year, you're saying, I've got no doubt that the best footy shoto card is behind him now, too. So you're going, well, what is the true value of Josh Addo Carr and what sort of impact? I'm talking off the field. What sort of impact can he have on this playing group? And as a result of that, I reckon clubs will be very careful about whether they recruit Josh Addo Carr for 2024, and you'd have to do it for beyond, right? You'd have to give him more than a one-year deal. So that's the challenge confronting Josh right now. Super League for him. What about, we're hearing Leo Thompson, Knights to Warriors. Warriors? Yep. Okay. That's why we're here. Have they got enough money in the cap? Yep. We're losing James Fischer. James Fischer Harris. We're losing Ed. He was our highest player. Yeah, but he's... But he's... But isn't Fischer Harris coming in? Yeah, okay. I'll tell you what. I mentioned it earlier. He's on 350 from all reports next year. I don't think he's worth twice that, but you get close to it. Yeah, he would get close to it. He really would get close to it. And oh, we're losing Montoya as well. He wouldn't have been a high-paid one, but we used to know why. No. No. But anyway. Now, what's going to happen on the weekend, buddy? What are you up to? I watch every second of Bethist every year, and this year will be no different. I love it. Okay. It's a great moment in history. I just... There was a slow mo of Peter Brock driving down Conrad Strait where there's elbow on the window, with the window open, and the left hand on the steering wheel just having to look around while leading. I'll never forget it. Peter Brock made me fall in love with the mountain. Is there ever been a more charismatic, certainly racing driver, no. But Peter Brock, you could put him up in the upper echelon of most charismatic Australian sports people of all time. He was Ozzie's James Bond to me, who was just so cool. Yeah. So cool. And he only won the nine, Bethist. He just bounced, like, just the nine. So, like, yeah, what an out-and-out legend, out-and-out legend. You know, I can only imagine how many people bought a Holton because of Peter Brock. Yeah. Like, O5. Like, these 23, Michael Jordan, and these O5 Peter Brock. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't really... And I'll tell you what, the Kiwis have got a rich history over here, as well. Yes, of like, massively. Greg Murphy led the gods. And you know who was fastest yesterday? Go on. There you go, Matty Payne, who is the latest Kiwi to come over and make an impact in the supercars. So, mate, plenty to watch for the Kiwi listeners. You enjoy that, Staffy? Absolutely, mate. You go well. Good on you. There he is. Staffy. There I was. Staffy. There he was. Jimmy. Back in the day next. Here's what happened back in the day. 11th of October 1980, the Dallas Mavericks opened their first season in the NBA with a victory against the Spurs. They won the championship in 2011. 1999, Manchester United manager, Alex Ferguson, drew the first £1 million testimonial match. When 55,000 people paid to see the rest of the World Team beat man new, 4-2 at Old Trafford. Don't remember that. 2010, 41-year-old Brett Favre became the first quarterback in NFL history to throw at least 500 touchdown passes. Birthdays today, so Bobby Chaplin, born on this day in 1937. Steve Young, 2 in 63 today. Greg Chalmers was a lefty golfer, 2 in 51 today. The number one movie, I don't know what year, but it was a number one movie, was in her shoes, 0-5. And the number one song was Kanye. Oh, she's a gold digger. Well, time. That dig on me. Oh, did you give me mine? Nah. Kanye and Jamie Foxx. Big thanks to Jacob for your help this week. It's been a wide and varied week. Enjoy the NPC. Enjoy Beths. 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