Kap & J. Hood
10/11 7 AM: Week 6 Bears Friday: Bears vs Jaguars Preview
Hour 1: It's another Bears Friday! Bears take on the Jaguars on Sunday morning from London. The guys preview the game and discuss what the Bears need to do to win, Bears Chairman George McCaskey gave an update on the new stadium, will it be in Chicago or Arlington Heights? If the Bears move to Arlington will an AFC Team hit Chicago?
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(crunching) - Chicago. This is your morning routine. - Listen to respect my name. - Cap and G hood. - That's right, that's right, we're bad, huh? - Watch the show on Twitch. Follow ESPN 1000 Chicago. Stream the show on the ESPN Chicago app. And on in there. 100.3 HD2. And on ESPN 1000 Chicago. Now, no, no, no. David Kaplan and Jonathan Hood. - Good morning, everyone. - Bring 'em out, bring 'em out. (upbeat music) ♪ Bring 'em out, bring 'em out ♪ ♪ Bring 'em out, bring 'em out ♪ ♪ Bring 'em out, bring 'em out ♪ ♪ Bring 'em out, bring 'em out ♪ ♪ Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa ♪ - Oh God, welcome in to the Cap and Jake Good Morning Show. On ESPN 1000 and we are streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. With David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you, we've got Shane. We've got Jay Moore, we've got you for a three hour ride on this Bears, football, Friday, with open full lines for you at 312-332-3776 is our telephone number. We can also watch our show on YouTube, YouTube.com. Hit the ESPN Chicago subscription button and that way that you'll be able to see everything that we do here at ESPN Chicago and Cap. It takes place on Sunday, Bears and Jaguars from the UK. Our cover starts at five with Jeff Miller and his fantasy football show. Then we get underway with six o'clock and don't forget the kick is at 8.30. You can hear all the coverage right here on ESPN 1000. Look at forward to it, Cap. As we get ready to go into the buy Bears and Jaguars, gotta take care of business to Bears if they wanna go four and two on the season. - I'll be up at five just because we don't need alarms anymore. This is our life. - Yeah. - We've chosen mornings, I love it. I'll be up locked in on the station. So I hope everyone, as you get up, you get a pot of coffee going and you'd be locked in two, man. This is a big, big game. I'm not here to tell you it's a must win 'cause it's not, but it is a big, big opportunity. Jacksonville, and I've been doing a little research, Jacksonville did the exact opposite of the Bears. Remember we had coach Eber Flusan. You get him the day after every game, 8.20. Here on the home of the Bears, ESPN 1000. Coach Eber Flusan, we talked to our sleep doctors and our medical people, they wanted them to leave Monday. They were originally gonna go on Tuesday night. They went Monday night and they are out in the countryside. They are not in downtown London and then busting through all the traffic. London has horrible traffic even though I love that city. And they have got this training camp vibe that Tom Thayer talked about with us yesterday. They go, they are every Thursday with us. So he said, I really, really like it. Tom is not one full of hyperbole. He does not come out and paint a rosy picture if he doesn't take its rosy. You know it. We ask him questions. - Oh yeah. - And he'll say, I'm a little concerned about that and that means he's really concerned. - Yes. - When he expresses concern, he's really concerned. He really likes what he's seeing. So the Bears get out there Monday, they get this great vibe, the whole deal. Jacksonville flew out last night. They're there for two games and they didn't land till this morning in London. So like six hours ago. People are going, why didn't you leave earlier? Well, from what I'm hearing, a lot of players are like, whoa, we want to make sure our families are right here. This storm is no joke. - Right. - We saw the roof ripped off of the Tampa Bay Ray Stadium. - Yeah. - They want to make sure, are we okay here? Are we going to be surviving? What's going on? And if you remember when Carlos Zambrano threw the no-hitter in Milwaukee, that was because that was supposed to be an Astros home game and the hurricane had hit down there with all the flooding. - That's correct. - And yeah, he was great that night, but a lot of people said those guys' minds were not there because their homes were getting damaged. They were worried about their families, they had to evacuate all of it. This is a massive opportunity to punch them in the mouth, so to speak, from the get-go. Let's go, let's go. - So you're saying that the bears have a Milton advantage here. - They do have a hurricane advantage, yes. - I say. - It's horrible as that storm was. Yeah, does that mean they're going to win? - Yes. - It does not. - Damn right, they're going to win. - I believe they're going to win. I pick them in the Sun-Times with Sylvie and Potash, but this is a massive opportunity, but you cannot allow them to get a quick score, quick three and out, another three. Oh, my God, we're 10 down. Here we go. No, you've got to take the feel like you own it and go, hey, you feel horrible about the hurricane. Bam, right in the mouth. Let me know if you need anything when we get back, but I'm beating your ass today. I think that's what it comes down to. That is what's got to happen. You buy hook or buy crook. You have got to find a way to get on that plane Sunday after the game. Eat a good meal and go, we're foreign too, guys. Have fun in Mexico. 'Cause a lot of guys are going to travel for vacation, which they should. And then they come back, recharge, let's go. You don't have brisker. I'm not sure Tevin Jenkins is going to be able to start, which the way Bill Murray played, I'm okay with it right now. So there's a lot at stake here. It's not a must win, but it's a great opportunity and you've got to walk through that door. - We always ask on Fridays, you know, the Chicago Bears will win if and we want you to fill in the blank. And I would say before we start taking phone calls on this cap, I want the Bears to be able to replicate what they did last week and then some. And then some because when it comes to Caleb Williams, 20 for 29 at 304 yards and two touchdowns, you know, for the Bears. But zero interceptions also was very key, that Caleb Williams and the offense took care of the football. They did not turn it over. Zero interceptions, very key for the Bears. I want the Bears to be able to do what they did last week and that is to open up holes for the running game. The Andre Swift is not washed. The Andre Swift needed holes, like any other running back. And he's been able to get the last couple of weeks, the Rams game. And what we saw this past Sunday against Carolina, run the football effectively. Because like anything else cap, the running game opens up the offense in a big way. The play action, I liked that Caleb Williams was able to move the pocket we saw on a play where he rolled to his right to connect a co-commit. These are things that has to continue to be a repetition for Caleb Williams, so he can get comfortable. The last couple of weeks is the most comfortable we've seen him in the offense. And again, offensive line play, running the football and finding his weapons and that turning it over, that's all ingredients to win. The hope is that there'll be the case in the UK against Jacksonville on Sunday. - Yeah, and Trevor Lawrence is no slouch now. He was the last generational prospect. When he came out, never how everyone was like the Jets upset, who? - Yeah. - The Jets ended up getting, I think the number three pick had they lost one more game, the Jets would have had the number one pick and they would have gotten Trevor Lawrence. People were like, what are the Jets doing? And Jacksonville got him. It hasn't worked out like they thought. Some of that's on Trevor. Some of that is on hiring Urban Meyer and it was a train wreck and they went two and 14 and all of it. But he's still, that guy threw for 360 some yards what a week ago. So that dude got a force you gotta be wrecking with and Tank Bigsby? - Great coffee. - Bigsby coffee is the best. No, that's Big B coffee. Wait, is it Bigsby or Big, whatever it is. Tanked. That's not his real name, by the way. - Oh, it's not his real name. - It's not. - His real name's not Tanked. - But that's how he's listed in the program. - I understand that. - Usually it would say, like if they, we call you hoodie, they wouldn't go, yeah, there's hoodie with his out of the back of his shirt. But he used to run around as a little kid banging into things, so his mom nicknamed him Tank. - Yes. - And it's stuck. - Yes. - It's like cordarius, or I'll look it up, but whatever. This is an opportunity, Jonathan, to get a win, catching an opponent that's wounded. I remember coaching. We got stuck in a snowstorm. We were supposed to play on a Wednesday night in Muncie, Indiana. And our boss had to pull over. The blizzard was so bad that we took over a La Quinta in Merrillville, Indiana. - Yeah. - We stayed there. We were supposed to be in Muncie the night before, get up, team meal, practice the whole deal. And we're at the La Quinta. The roads are opened. They called, do you want to move the game to tomorrow? And we took a vote with our team. Coach, what do you guys want to do? 'Cause otherwise we're going to drive three hours or whatever it was, get off the bus and let's go play. No walkthrough, no scouting report. We would just give the report, I would, in front of the team, right before tip. That's it, every guy. Let's go down and beat their ass. - Yeah, we lost 82 to 64. - Yeah. - Back in the morning moment on the Huskies right here. - We were flat from the get-go, flat. We had zero chance. - Yeah. - One eight, 1986, I just looked it up. - Okay, so you're saying the Jaguars have a chance now? - Sorry, 1985. - By you telling that story? - No, like we were the jags. - Uh-huh. - We weren't jags, we were like the jagwars. - I see. - Rolling in, let's go. - Yes. - We got pounded. - Yes. - So it's an advantage for the Bears, but you cannot allow them to punch you in the mouth first. You cannot allow it. For those that are looking for some greatness at the quarterback position from Caleb Williams, we mentioned the numbers he had against the Panthers last week cap. The 126.2 passer rating was the best by a Bears rookie quarterback in the AFL NFL merger. The previous high was set by Jim McMahon against the Rams in December of '82. - What about that? - It gives you the good vibes, Kappa, the quarterback position for the Chicago Bears. We have not seen a quarterback. And by the way, I didn't know that there was a passer rating going back that far. I don't remember reading about that. Do you? - I did not. - In the early '80s? - I don't remember it all. - Yeah, I don't. I don't recall that, but it's the best passer rating for a rookie quarterback that Caleb Williams has since Jim McMahon. So there you have it. The good vibes cap of you trying to build on something, Caleb Williams trying to build on the infrastructure that the Bears have put together, defense, offense. Special teams, and I believe the Bears can be able to ride that crest of the good vibes and be able to win on Sunday against Jacksonville. - It's, I don't have a final score yet, but I believe that that's gonna be the best. - Yeah, do I think we're gonna blow them out like they did Carolina? I don't. Like Jacksonville is a better team that people give them credit for. They should have beaten Houston. They're lost in the final moments. Should have beaten them. They do have a win, they have talent. The kid that's run on the football is averaging eight yards a carry. - Big speed coffee, correct. - And Trevor Lawrence, as they just said, that dude can play. I loved him and Kyle loved him. So find a way, man. - All right, three, one, two, three, three, two, ESPN, three, three, two, three, seven, seven, six is our phone number, Bears fans. This is the last time that you and I can talk about the Chicago Bears cap. Last time because it's a football Friday. It's the last time that we get a chance to get the final prediction and final thoughts about the Bears before they play on Sunday. So let's get your phone calls in here. The Chicago Bears will win Sunday. If there's a lot of good things they've done the last couple of weeks, is there one thing in particular? The last couple wins that the Bears have to do to be able to win this game against Jacksonville. Think about the last couple of games? What could be implemented in this one on Sunday? Right here on the home of the Bears, cap and J-hood. (upbeat music) Cap and J-hood are big. We're putting the band back together. The nerve center of a great rhythm and blues band. On Chicago's home for sports, ESPN Chicago. Cap and J-hood on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. We have shot or no shot. Coming you way to eight o'clock right here on Chicago's home for sports is we get ready for the Bears and the Jaguars. Don't forget full day of coverage on Sunday right here on the home of the Bears, ESPN 1000. The Jaguars, by the way, are 31st in the league in total defense cap. Now you think about this, the names that stand out for that defense. Trayvon Walker and Josh Hines, Alan and Eric Armstead. And yet this team does not have an interception. So what I'm saying is, is that for the Bears offense, keep doing what you're doing, but even better. Because this is not an opportunistic defense at all with this Jaguars team. While they're down, keep them down. They are a team that you should have real opportunities to make plays down the field. But if you take them lightly, as I said to you, if you let them start feeling themselves, they won't feel the jet lag. Ooh, we got a seven nothing. Oh, we're up 10 nothing. Oh, we picked off Caleb. Hey, fumble. That's how you short circuit yourself. Yeah. Take care of the football, make plays when they're there, punch them in the mouth, run the football, right Adam? It's probably going to be Bill Murray at left guard. Let's go. They're allowing 400 yards a game. Yeah. Right now the Jaguars. No question. And of course they got off to such a terrible start. They're still averaging, given up almost 30 points a game as well. So they're off to a bad start. So what I'm saying is just continue the momentum. Still to come, we're going to hear from George McCasky, his thoughts about a new stadium for the Bears. Where's it going to be? George is going to talk about that coming up after 730 right here on Captain Jay Hood. But first, let's go to the phone eyes to talk to you. It's very simple Bears fans, Bears and Jags. The Chicago Bears are going to win if, fill in the blank for us as we go to Ivan and Glenview on Captain Jay Hood. Ivan, good morning. Well, what up, Captain Jay Hood? How y'all doing today, man? What's up there? Ivan, how you doing, brother? And man, so feel good Friday, man. Like you guys said this morning, man. The vibes are at the highest they've been in the wild. So I think the Bears will win this while we see our boy, Caleb Williams, continue to progress. And as Bill Murray can step up as the next man up, open up those holes for DeAndre. And I want to see DeAndre go for 100 total scrimmage yards. Bear down, yeah. And shout out, beef on Brooklyn, you heard? And I'm going to let y'all do your thing, so take care of y'all. Have a great weekend, Ivan. There you go. Glenview, it's like my second home. I coached the Glenview 10-year-old team this summer. There you go. I have a warm spot for Glenview. Have you been retained? I think that's the question. I know it's a one-year deal. Will you be back next year? Maybe. Next summer? Absolutely. The winter thing, the Jay Hawk's been all over me about coaching the winter team. The wife said no. Wow. The wife said no. Sorry, not happening. I don't think that's-- I don't think that's her call. I think that's our call. We want a route for you. And it also gives you something else to do. I told the Jay Hawk that I would come in and watch from the stands. Cheeraman once in a while. I think you should be right there in the mix. I think that's the wrong call again by Mindy Kaplan. No, I don't have that kind of time. I want to see my grandkids. I went to the pumpkin jack-o-lantern world last night. We went out to dinner, went to jack-o-lantern world. Those are family things. I want to do with my grandkids. It was super cool, by the way. Guys, Adrian, whooped around? Skate-o-boy, you hear that? Up in Lake Zurich. It was awesome. So how's the work in St. Bonnys? Everything good there? Everything's good. Yeah, I'm taking the job to be the general manager of the DePaul program. Oh, I see. Oh, fuck that. I'll say that out loud. They'll get engaged in five seconds. Based on how things are going on over there. Be careful now. My guy, Dwayne Peavey's, my buddy. Love Dwayne Peavey, the AD, a big Wayne Peavey fan. Now he's shaking ass to get the job. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. They're really going to have take that along the baseline at the ball. Take that. Take that. Take that. Take that. Hey, it's unbelievable David Kaplan. He's revitalized Chicago. Look at the basketball. Thank you, Mr. Vitale. Yes, when Vitale, when he does go back to the booth, ESPN+, 3-1-2-3-2, I want him. Jay, I want him on the VMI. I want to do those games. Enough with the old-- I'm sorry, there's no other way to put it. The old men coming back to the booth. The ALDS with the Yankees has been an absolute disaster. Enough bringing these guys back. I get Bob Costas as a legend. Nobody needs to hear him this way. He was horrible on the series. Enough. See, he bottled that take for the last couple of days. Is there no-- He hasn't been able to say it in front of an open microphone. Only-- is there no young blood that we can get to have these moments? Wait, till he turns like 60. Oh, my God. Yeah, we're going to be using a younger person to do Chicago's college tailgate. Cool. Good. They should. Good. I'm all four young people getting into it. We don't need Bob Costas at 50% on the ALDS. It was a disaster. Enough. You couldn't wait for that take. You just had to just blurt that out 22 minutes into the show. He's been bottling that take for 40 hours, man. He couldn't wait to open a mic and talk about that. And since you mentioned it, here's what it is, Cap. You know what that is, right? I know what this is. So a lot of the issues with Bob Costas come from young people. Bob is a studio guy, but it's done play by play. We've heard him do all different sports back in the day. It was him, but Dick Endberg hadn't come over. He was doing football. It was Bob with Billy Packer rest in peace, even though he was a jag and Al Maguire, who was a great dude. Rest in peace. Yeah, the backup tomorrow on the NBA has done some NFL. The oldest thing, but see what's happened is is that you age before your very years. Bob's been around for a long time, but to a young guy like that, it's like get him off my TV because he's a lot. He over talks around darling. And then when there's a line drive, the eyesight's not like it used to be. There's a line drive right to the second baseman. It calls it a base hit. Well, the other thing was it sounded like he had money on the Yankees. He was mad about a double playbook. But just understand about this business, whether it's TV or radio, you're not allowed to age. Just telling you. Like the same, when you can have your fastball and obviously your fastball is not as fast anymore, you're not allowed to age. But because when you make mistakes, they're an awful announcing immediately. Correct, see. But when Harry was toward the end, he made a lot of mistakes. I wanted him on my screen. All right, I get it. Like this guy in here, he'd have been like, he's done, get him off my screen. He's Harry Kerry. He's a legend. I want him. You're not allowed to age in this business anymore. It's stuff on TV, people, and I mean, Dick Stockton's out of the business for a good reason. Dick wasn't good anymore. Right. Just wasn't if you're part of the expression. The local guy's different too. Like a shot to Leslie Viscer. Go ahead. Harry Kerry had been here forever. He was a legend. He was local and he was still good at the end. Like, wasn't the same, but he was still good. And the local guy can survive longer. When you pull Bob Costis out of a freezer and put him on the ALDS for a national audience, and he clearly hasn't watched much of either team, it's like, what are we doing? Now, Shay, to be fair, he has done that game of the week all season, whatever, that MLB network game of the week, whatever, but no, let me just finish. He's done a game a week all season. But in these big moments, as you are correct, it's just not very good. It's not very sharp. One of the faces of baseball, Bobby Whit, makes a great diving play and turns two. And I got to hear Bob Costis go, diving stop, and then, will they turn two? They will. [GROANING] Yeah, it's the play I'm talking about. I was like, did you have a parlay on the game or something? I'm like, what's my watch? It's not Stanton's fault. He just moves slowly. Same guy, by the way, that stretched the scene onto a double yesterday. But he runs slowly. And slowly, basically, the other night. OK. Thanks, Bob. Makes the event look worse. But that's the whole thing, Cap. When you get up to Nat's stratosphere, he's a Hall of Fame broadcaster. But at this point in time, Brian Anderson, he runs laps around Bob Costis. Brian was unbelievable yesterday in that Tiger Cleveland game. What? What it is. This is why I get away from all of that. I have to go back and look at the clips of that, because I'm a radio guy. I'll listen to the radio call every time. I can walk around the house. I get steps in and still listen to what's going on and get a clear picture. Don't have to worry about the bad play-by play on TV. Yeah, see. Lewis and Lyle on Cap and J-hood as we talk bears here on a Bears Monday or Bears Friday. Hello, Lewis. Hey, good morning, guys. Happy Friday. Happy Friday to you, Lewis. Thanks for listening. Always a pleasure. Hey, so I got a good way for the bears to win this. Look, the Jags from the Jaguars. Look, I feel bad that they just got hit by Milton. But you know what, Cap, you said it best. You got to hit him in the mouth. Right now, the way that we win is we start out fast. We hit them hard in the lot trenches, and we add injury to insult. This is our time to just really run it down their throats. They're tired, run it down their throats, get Caleb on the play action, get it deep. And you know, I have a good first drive for the first time this season where we can score a touchdown. I don't know why our scripted plays don't seem to work, but get a quick touchdown. And I think that they're-- I think they're going to land-- or the Jaguars are going to learn through this. Have a great day, guys. Have a great weekend, Lewis. Shay, could you please give us the rundown from Monday to where we are right now, as far as the public money for the bears and the Jaguars? Because in front of me, ESPN Bet says the bears are one-point favorite. What's been the ebb and flow of how people have bet this game this week? So I know-- I think it was 2 and 1/2 at the open. It was sat at two most of the week. The bears have been the public team the entire time, and now it's down to 1 and 1/2. Typically not a great sign. The public doesn't believe the bears can win, Cap. Well, no, the public is all over the bears, but I'm saying when the public is on that team and the point spread is going against them, that's typically a bad sign. Oh, my gosh. Thanks, guys. Why is that a bad sign? Because it's telling you, like, despite all of the bets and all of the money being on one side, the books are willing to give you less points to take that side. Means the actually good money is on Jacksonville. Do you agree with that, Cap? I don't know. Whether or not they win or lose, I'm just from a gambling perspective, the good money is on Jacksonville. I don't know if I'd agree with that, but again-- Yeah, it's a fact. The point spread is moving towards Jacksonville. That means the good money is on them. There's no arguing it. It's a fact. The number is going down. Chase said the number is going down. You said it's starting at 2 and 1/2 now. You see it at 1 and 1/2 right now, in front of you? Yeah, 1 and 1/2, I'm looking. OK. So he's saying that it's going in the opposite direction. Whether it wins or loses is irrelevant. The process leading up is the smart people are betting the Jaguars. OK, why do you say that the public is betting the bears? Because if it's moving, and obviously everybody's betting the jags. No, what I'm looking at right now is 81% of the bets and 61% of the money on Chicago. And yet it's moving Jacksonville's way. That tells you something. It's called reverse line movement, little gambling terminology for you. OK. That the line was 2 and 1/2 now. He says it's-- and you have it in front of you as well, Cab. You say it's 1 and 1/2 in front of you? Don best, which does the Vegas rotation when you see the number-- like number 746. When you go to the window, you don't go ahead. Like the bears are like, what number? 746, bears, jags. And jags would be 747. They have all across the board. Golden nugget, bet, MGM, all of them have it at minus 1 and 1/2 Chicago total, 44 and 1/2. So when does that line tell you? Like the cap line would be what, 3 and 1/2, bears? No. I would have probably had it 2 and 1/2, 3. Really? 2, 2 and 1/2, 3, right in there. And my takeaway from it is the game's probably going under, under, 44 and 1/2. Under 44 and 1/2. OK. That's my gut feeling. So we'll see. It's going to be a-- I think it's a close game. I really do. Would it have been on the neutral site that way? It would have been on neutral site. And you believe it's going to be a close game. And I looked up the Jacksonville paper, the Florida Times Union. Demetrius Harvey, is there a beat writer? Yeah. He said bears 24. Jaguars, 10. Yep. I think with the Bears defense, I think that's very possible. And the other guys have the jack-- all of them, the rest. I think they have one other. Most of them have the jags winning, close. 17, 16, 24, 23, something like that. I think that number on the Jaguars is a good number because the Bears have held opponents to 21 points or less in 11 straight games. That's the longest active streak in the league. So it's a top 10 defense. And they are bento break. More times than not. And so I think that they can hold jack the bill to a lower number. And again, we'll have our picks coming up at 8/18. But that sounds like the play. The Bears and the Under. That's what-- how I'm playing. Bears-- I'm playing Bears Money Line. Just win the game. Sure. And the Under 44 and 1/2. All right, George McCasky, what's some thoughts about the new stadium? Where's the stadium going to be? Find out from George next on Captain Jay Hood. Captain Jay Hood are back. And you know this, man. Chicago's home for sports. ESPN Chicago. Captain Jay Hood weekday mornings at 7 here on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. Here's hoping that you're going to have a great weekend. We're with you until 10 o'clock. And Mike Greenberg will be with us at 10 o'clock followed by Carmen and Yurco. They will be at Buffalo Wild Wings in Berlin. Are there football feasts at BB Dub? Also, Waddling Sylvie, 2.30 to 6.30. And then Northwestern Wildcats football. They take on Maryland. That only started 6.30 right here on ESPN 1000, Bleckenumdala on their YouTube channel. YouTube.com looked for Bleckenumdala. So Captain George McCasky is in London with the rest of Chicago Bears. And just like Ryan Polls and Mattie who flew to some of the players we interviewed, they found George. They did. And George was affable as he always is. He's a good guy. And we think he's finally figured out the hiring process for a GM in Ryan Polls. Things are trending up. And then he hired Kevin Warren to be the president of the operation, and they've got to figure out how they get a brand new stadium deal done. And it has a language pal. It's not going well. I'm just a fan. I'm not a football evaluator. Yes, we understand that, George. But your guy Kevin Warren has spoke to the press. First, Kevin Warren. Warren says the opportunity is huge to build here in Chicago. I don't know of saying imminent or inevitable. I think it's the best site, you know, as of now. Because one of the things we have to do, and it's great about traveling here, and it's a reminder of how small this world is. And that's one of the reasons why we're here, is to shrink the world. When you look at the infrastructure, when you look at the city of London, you look how things are built here, we have an opportunity in Chicago to really think creatively out of the box, to say that we have a piece of land. I still argue it's the most beautiful piece of land in the world, with the lake, with the downtown, with the museum campuses. And what can we do to be able to pull all that together, in and around the museum campuses, downtown, the lake of football stadium, green space. And so I look at it as an opportunity. - Okay, on George McCassy's talked about the new stadium. Listen. - Going for the best deal is possible, where it's most feasible financially, politically, geographically. And the lakefront is an excellent sight. And we think that a roofed stadium, just south of Silverfield, can be great for Chicago, for the region, and for the great state of London. - Kevin said that the goal's still breaking ground in 2025, that's two months away. How do you get there? - Oh, it's 14. (laughing) - I can't do the math on that. - That's why-- - Too much better. - Yeah, it's way too much better. - Sometime in 2020. - So, how do you, what's the next step in terms of town and securing public funding, is still that next step? Where do you think things are? - Yeah, so there's a, a veto session in November. There's an induct session in January, and then the spring session right after that. Sometime in one of those sessions, what impact do you have some sort of available and legislation to do around the project? - Do you share his confidence level that you'll get a shovel in the ground, Mr.? - Yes, we're confident, Kevin. - All right, so, George McCasky, apparently, outside the airport. Plenty of planes flying in, Lufthansa, TWA. - Correct. - Eastern, flying in there to London. - Lufthansa, no, there's some people that might try and rob the cash that comes in over the weekend, and they're gonna make a movie out of the Coca-Cola. - Oh, God. - Well, I believe that there's a possibility of a news stadium, and I, I really believe that in 2020. - Oh, you hear me? - But did you hear the last part of it? - The legislation. - The last part of it, I don't know if everyone was paying attention, they get their coffee or their whatever drink in the morning, I get to get to school, I get to get to work, blah, blah. Right at the end, the question was asked, do you, did they say do you believe it's still possible or feasible to get the shovels in the ground in 2025? How did he answer it? He said we have faith in Kevin. He did not say, oh yeah, we believe we'll have shovels in the ground. He did not answer it that way. We have faith in Kevin. Okay. And if Kevin comes to you tomorrow and says, I got a call from the governor, it's dead, there's no chance. Not gonna happen? You could still have faith in Kevin, he didn't lie to you. That's fair, that's fair. But, Cap, as a Cook County resident, I gotta pay for this, right? - Well, it depends how it's financed 'cause if it's through the state, Jay Moore lives in Cook County, I live in Lake. - Yes. - You and Shay live and cook in the city, but Jay Moore and I are not city addresses. - Yes. - All of us would have to pay if Governor Pritzker green lights us. Now he has said, quote, there is no appetite for public funds to help build a billionaire stadium. - He said that for the bears and the white socks. - Correct. Like the socks thing is not happening through public money according to Governor Pritzker. - Look, I don't believe that my tax dollars with all the issues in our state, I don't believe my tax dollars should go to build somebody a stadium. And you can tell me all you want. Look at what it's going to bring to the city. Do you know how many cities have said that for the last 50 years and they get the public money and it never works out that way? The last study we both read was the only one. The only one in recent memory that is showing any help to their economic area is the Atlanta Braves Battery Park that was paid for with public money and it's actually now turning a profit for them. That's the only one, every other one. There's a guy named Dr. Rob Bodie. I don't know if he's still working. He was a stadium expert and he taught it. Lake Forest College. He said it is the biggest rip off to the consumer possible. Build a stadium and it's going to bring in all these jobs and all this much. He doesn't believe it and he's an economist. That's what he does for a living. Me paying taxes, I would rather have more police if we need them. Pay our teachers more. - Education. - Education. Give the supplies to the kids. How many kids do not have Wi-Fi in the inner city of Chicago? I'd rather my money go there. - Yeah, yeah. Jay Moore. Do you think it's a cover to put pressure on the people in Arlington Heights? Like they really try to push this lakefront agenda in order to get them in Arlington Heights to help out with building the stadium there? 'Cause I don't understand why would they spend so much money on that land out there and not do anything with it? - Because Kevin said reportedly had he been the president when that parcel of land came up for sale, he would not have bought it. Ted wanted it and George agreed. And that was, remember, their sole focus is Arlington Heights. And then Arlington Heights played hard ball with the taxes. From what I'm being told Arlington Heights has put an amazingly good offer now on the table. But Kevin wants to be in the city. - Okay, who do you think is gonna win that, Cap? Thank the McCaskys will win that. - I just don't see how you're gonna get this done here with the friends of the parks and the governor. The mayor could say all he wants. That's actually runs counter to how the mayor ran to get elected. Now he's in bed with the billionaires. And again, I'm a Bears fan. I just want a cool stadium. If you can get it done, God bless you. I just don't think I should or you should or anyone else out there should have to have their tax dollars pay for it. - I just think it's common sense. And the common sense is is that if the Chicago Bears have bought a parcel of land in which they could be able to control every inch of it, they don't have to worry about friends of the park, they don't have to worry about anyone saying, hey, you can't touch this, you can't touch that. You'd rather be in some place that you could control something that's open 24, 365, even when the Bears don't play. And on top of that, having all these mega events was the final four WrestleMania concerts, whatever it is, you can have it all there. Versus a place over here at the lakefront where the friends of the park says, nah, you can't touch that column, you can only build it this way, you only do this. I know it's beautiful and I'm a Chicago and I get that, but times change cap, times change. - I agree. - It just makes fiscal sense. If you bought a parcel of that, so some of the Bears don't build our odds and heights. So what are you gonna do with that? Bears own it, so what are you gonna do with it? - Well, I guess you would sell it to a developer who would put more malls over there. - So the death of the American mall is a real thing. If you do some research on it and I recommend is, if your tax dollars are being levied for a stadium, you should do some research. Because of Amazon and Instacart and all these different things, the American mall is a dying horse. Look, go walk around some of these malls in nice areas. - I know, but the Bears will take a loss because if they sell it to someone else, they're not gonna get what they pay for it. - Oh, I think they would. I absolutely think they would. The proximity to O'Hare, the highway, 53, 90, 100%. I think 294 is not far. I think they would get a deal done. They would not lose money. I don't believe that. - I'm just saying that if someone buys it, like, what are you gonna put there? Now there's, I'll give you an example, like evergreen plaza in Chicago, outside of Beverly, is coming back, but they got a raising canes there. They got a Starbucks there. There's, you know, a few shops. Is it as thriving as it used to be? No, that is coming back versus Calumet said River Oaks, which is dead, nothing there. Like maybe a Carson's maybe, but the old Sears, there's nothing but just parking lot there. Used to be something and now it's just nothing. - Okay, I had to buy a couple of things that we needed for the house. I needed a paper towel hold. - Yeah. - Used to go to the mall. Or I used to go to Bed Bath and Beyond. They're gone. - Sure. - You can get them online. I went on Amazon. It'll be there between 10 and three today. - Yeah. - Oh, perfect. - Very convenient. - Don't have to get in the car. Don't have to spend any gas. Don't have to do any of that. - Yeah. - I get it. I just, if I own it cap, I'm gonna put something on it. I'm just saying, if I'm the Bears, I know what Kevin says and what it looks aesthetically pleasing, but I own the land. I'm putting it there. And by the way, if it's politically motivated, dude, I don't think that that's the right way to go about business. - I know there are people that don't like the rickets. I think they're really good people. I know them. - Yeah. - They paid for their stadium. They didn't get one dollar of public money and they fixed up a wriggling. It can be done. - As they should too, because people can bitch about how much it costs to go to a wriggly field and how much it costs to get a beer, but at least they built it themselves. The thing that makes me the most angry about asking for public money is you say, this will be great for the Bears fan. This will be great for the people of Chicago. No, it won't. 90% of them are gonna be priced out of that building by the time it's built. Gonna cost you $200 a seat to go to a game. Most people can't afford that. - Fair. - And they want personal seat licenses. - Yes. - I get it. - But more jobs though, Cap, jobs. Well, that's always the thing they dangle out there first is the jobs. Yeah, we'll get some calls. We'll get people's thought. Cap and Jay Hood weekday morning, seven to 10. - Follow Chicago's Home for Sports on Twitter at ESPN1000. Cap and Jay Hood are back on ESPN Chicago, Chicago's Home for Sports. - Robert is on the road as we talk about the Bears in a possible new stadium on Cap and Jay Hood. Robert, good morning. - Good morning, gentlemen. How are you? First time, long time. - What's up, man? Hey, listen, now hear me out here. Where are the Bears playing this weekend and why? - They're playing in London because the commissioner's goal is to have every week in the next five years or so, international game every week. - So, expansion. - Yes. - I think we're thinking about this all wrong. I think an AFD team is coming to Chicago and I think it's gonna happen soon as it goes. - No shot. - No, no, the Bears have the right to block that. It's in the charter. See, once again, Robert, I've been telling this man this for years and he won't listen. You're 100% right, Robert, but this guy won't listen. He doesn't understand that the power of the National Football League. Cap doesn't understand it. If the NFL wants a second team in here, there's gonna be a second team in here. It's gonna happen. - 100% - Absolutely. The power of the NFL compels them to say, hey, you know, we got two in New York, we got two in LA. Hey, if Soldier feels like I'm gonna be used, we're gonna put an ASC team in there. - And I think all of this hand-ringing and all of this decision-making is the Bears get the first rider refusal. That's the one thing I believe the NFL did for them. And they're just trying to make their choice, make the right one. And I think they're gonna make the wrong one, like they often do. - Okay, their charter says that they control the market. They cannot put a team here. And I know the power of the league and hoodie's been all over me about this first. - It's gonna happen. - Many years. What if, let me ask you a question. - And thanks for the call, Rob, have a great weekend, buddy. Keep the rig on the road. Okay, see that nice older building right across the street? - Yeah. - It's got the torture museum, it's got the Chick-fil-A, it's got stops where the Chicago theater is. That's another building. Okay, Chick-fil-A says we'll sign a 25-year lease with you. We'll rent it, we'll pay whatever the rent is. - Sure. - Okay. But we wanna guarantee we'll give you the 25-year lease at a hundred grand a month or whatever they pay. You cannot put another chicken fast food place in there. And then the torture museum, what's got a nice piece of property right there says we're out, we're bankrupt, we're gone. Raising Keynes calls. - Yeah. - Hey, we'll take that and give you a 50-year lease and we'll pay you 200,000 a month. I can't do it, I signed an illegal document telling Chick-fil-A they'll be the only chicken place in the building. - Sure. - Can't do it. - That's fine. - I'm Chick-fil-A and I get the call from Bob Jones, the real, hey man, it's Bob. Hey, Bob, how's it going? Everything good, the building, yeah, everything's great. I got a chance to get Raising Keynes to take over where the torture museum was. They're gonna pay me double what you guys are paying. Too bad, sorry. I got the chicken concession here, not happening. - Do you know the ramifications if the agreement is broken? - You get sued. - The ramifications is that money rules all. That's the bottom line. That's the idea that the NFL does look at Chicago and say, hey, you got an open stadium. Hey, you know what, we can put a team in there. It would happen tomorrow. It would happen that quickly. You think the commanders like the idea that Baltimore is that close? That the Ravens have a team in Washington, they don't like that at all. Absolutely not. But the NFL says yes, absolutely. Is that why the press, you know, for the Bears to stay in Chicago is so important? So another team can't come here? Look, I mean, I think that from the Bears standpoint, at least from Kevin Warren's standpoint, he wants the Chicago Bears to be in Chicago. I get that. But as long as the Bears are on an alternate height, when that does happen, and I think it will happen, it's gonna be like, hmm, you got a place over here that's empty. What are you gonna, the NFL said, what are you gonna do with that place? What are you gonna do with Soldier Field? It's just like, is this dormant, unless there's a soccer game where HBCU basketball game. Yeah, we should probably put an NFL team in there. Do you think if Lightfoot was still the mayor? Yeah. That she would be pushing to keep the Bears here. I know they had that, like, remember the plant, it was like a video. Here's what Soldier Field would look like with a dome on it, and I was quoted by many. And I said, Soldier Field's a dump, and with a dome on it, it's a dome dump. Correct? You need a new stadium, that's a fact. I think if she daily, manual, if they were the mayor, I don't think their priority would be. We like to keep you. Yes. They're not putting their neck out to put billions of dollars of city money in the stadium. No, and by the way, they also know, maybe Kevin Ward doesn't understand, they also know they can't do anything because of the Friends of the Park, even if they wanted to. Correct. And the governor is not on board with this. Governor Pritzker has said, this state's got other issues, man. I'm trying to balance a budget. I'm trying to cut taxes. I'm trying to cut taxes around it. We're not putting our money into a stadium. All I'm telling you, Robert, is that you are on the right track. I might be pushing cap around the wheelchair when it happens, but there's going to be another team in Chicago. It is going to be another team in Chicago, because there's too much money there, cap. You think people won't come out when the Bears are on the road to see another Chicago sports team that plays football? Absolutely they will, especially if they win. You know how we are? You start winning, we're backing you. There's going to be AFC team in this town. It's going to happen. 'Cause money rules everything. Yeah, you're, any time there's a question, just follow the money, I agree. That's it. I just don't think they're going to get that done, but maybe I'm wrong. We'll see. We'll be old and gray. - Great error, but it's gonna happen.