(upbeat music) - We have to continue to do what I said, dude. And as they focus and run this city, the way we have successfully done for two years and 10 months. - Welcome to New York One's off topic on politics. I'm New York One investigative reporter, Courtney Gross. There have now been 11 departures from the Adams administration in the last month. This week, Deputy Mayor Phil Banks resigned, then first Deputy Mayor Sheena Wright. There were others too, like Winnie Greco, the mayor's embattled head of Asian affairs. As if it wasn't hard enough to keep track of the mass exodus from City Hall, there was another criminal complaint from the U.S. Attorney's Office. The mayor's liaison to the Muslim community is now facing federal charges. The second arrest as part of this federal investigation into the mayor's campaign fundraising. It's hard to keep up, but we'll break it all down. And then to take a break from the turmoil in the Adams administration, we'll tackle some presidential politics coming to town. Former President Donald Trump is planning a big rally at one of the city's biggest venues, Madison Square Garden. The rally slated for later this month, just nine days before election day. Not surprisingly, deep blue New York electeds are not sending a welcome party. Why come to the city so close to election day? We'll discuss. And joining me for this discussion is our Bobby Guza. Hi, Courtney. I'm going to be out of town on October 27th. - For real? - Yeah. So we're going to need you to go to MSG and bed yourself with Trump supporters. - There's a round show that I saw. I actually saw an MSG show this year. Noah Kahn. - Noah Kahn? - And whatever pronounce his name at. I'm going to have to say what's wrong. - Probably a different vibe. - It was definitely a different vibe, but actually kind of country and got to say the show was a little disappointing. Anyway, and our Bernadette Hogan is also here. - Hello, hello. I will also be out of town. - Wait for real. - But this isn't like a personal like sharing show. So like, I'm just taking the lead from Bobby, but I won't be. - I am going to be in town. So, you know. - I would have covered it. - Yeah. - Bring it on. Why not? Okay, let's go back to business. Starting Monday, there was just a cascade of news coming out of City Hall. Phil Banks was leaving, and Sheena Wright, Rana Abasova was fired. The main, and Rana Abasova is the main cooperating witness for federal prosecutors and the mayor's indictment. And it just went on and on and on. And Bobby, I mean, it felt like this week in particular, we've been reporting on these resignations for many weeks now, but it felt like this week in particular it kind of reached like a fever pitch. - Yeah, I will say though, everyone who left this week and in the past couple of weeks is kind of in a different category, I would say, because they are all people who were touched by one of these investigations, right? One of the federal investigations into City Hall. So, it felt less like, I mean, from the outside, it probably looks like chaotic, and there's this, you know, people jumping ship at City Hall, but I actually think you could look at it more like a purge, right? These are all people who had a cloud over them, and now they have all departed, although they all resigned, and weren't technically pushed out except for Ron Abasova. So, you know, you could argue this is sort of the cleanse that the mayor needed, and that maybe he had been kind of pushed into doing by Governor Hookall, that's a whole other conversation. But also, these are all people who are Adams loyalists, right? Everybody who's left in the last couple of weeks are people with longstanding relationships to the mayor, people that he goes back with years, if not decades, a lot of them worked with him at Burrow Hall. So, it's almost like, you know, you could say, now everyone who's left are, none of them are Adams cronies, right? They're all people who are like-- - Well, there are still some of them there. - Well, there are still some of them remaining. - There are still some exceptions. - Ingrid Lewis Martin, I think is a notable exception. But this seems sort of deliberate, although the mayor said this week that none of these departures have anything to do with the investigations at City Hall. So-- - I mean, Bern, can we actually believe that? I mean, Bobby said that these people weren't pushed out. I'm gonna argue the opposite, that they weren't pushed out. I mean, I don't think that on Instagram yesterday, I think she had right posted a song. I forget the name, I recorded it on my phone, but I can't remember, you know what? Let me actually see if I can find it, and I can play some of the songs for everybody. Just so we can. - I was looking at this last night. - And also, Sheena Wright didn't apparently submit a resignation letter. - And neither did Phil Banks. - And neither did Phil Banks, which is not typical. - No, right, and that's actually something we've been able to, New York One, has been able to obtain throughout all of these, or majority of these, resignations. Lisa Zornberg, Tim Pearson at least, those are the two that I've been involved with. And they have submitted written reasons why they have left. Sheena Wright, she's somebody who, you know, we were hearing all of last week that it would be her last day, and even over the weekend. And part of this, back to Courtney's point about whether or not these people were pushed out, Governor Kathy Hochl has made it clearer now. At first, it was a little murky. At first, I would say, from talking to those around her, and from the governor's own words, she didn't want to get in the middle too much of City Hall and appear to step on the mayor's toes. But at the same time, it is clear, she wants him to clean house and step it up a little bit. So, you know, resignations from Pearson, from David Banks, those are all part of this mandate that she's going to get there. - Right, she said she wanted significant staff departures, right? That was a couple of weeks ago. - Yeah, that was, I mean, that was the day of the, that was within the two days after the indictment, because I was working that weekend. And I remember it wasn't clear, and then she made it clear, right? 'Cause she sent out that statement saying, "Listen, he needs to prove to me and to New Yorkers "that he can stay and continue to work." And then it became overhearing about their private conversations on the phone, that she was like, "You need to shape that up." - Right, so she's asking for significant staff departures. And then, you know, within two weeks, all these people leave it. So it's like, none of it is unexpected, right? For Tim Pearson, and Phil Banks, and Sheena Wright, and Ron Obisova, to all the-- - Sorry, not to interrupt you, Bobby, but this is the song that Sheena Wright posted on Instagram. - And then made private. - Yolanda Adams, church doors, do you know this one? - I don't know. - I thought she would, I think it's a pretty famous song. Either way, like, the words, right? I hear your spirit say, "Girl, you're not done. You ain't seen nothing yet. Like, what is the subliminal message?" - I got some stories to tell. - I got some stories to tell. - Some testimony. You can sing, Bernie, you wanna? It's okay. - I don't know the song with the words. It's actually a really great question. - And I don't wanna, like, wow, our listeners do not-- - Anyway, I can hear her. - So, clearly, you know, this goes back to my argument about being pushed out. I mean, I don't think these people are actually leaving voluntarily, like Sheena Wright, Phil Banks, you know, the banks and Adams have had such a long-standing relationship. We're talking about the father of Phil and David Banks and Terence Banks was a mentor to the mayor in the NYPD. And now they are, I mean, I'm not gonna say that they're victims because they are obviously the subject of federal investigations, but they certainly, you know, and Sheena Wright, perhaps, thinks that they're victims in this situation. There's details, I think, in the New York Times or one of our other, you know, I'll say competitors, I was gonna say colleagues, but whatever. (laughing) There was details about, you know, I think Ingrid Lewis-Martin consoling Winnie Greco in the halls of City Hall when she was told that she was gonna have to resign. I think this is clearly being done by the mayor, by City Hall, to try to save his legacy, to save his ability to stay in his office. But here's also the issue of, you know, Ingrid Lewis-Martin consoling Winnie Greco. If we were in a private company, right, you would have an HR personnel going in and saying, listen, you're fired, you wouldn't be talking to your boss. I mean, I'm not talking about it from experience, I'm just saying, this is how it usually works. You don't have people dragging it out. Like this, at the end of the day, it could be a violation, too. You know, people that are fired from City Hall could end up suing the city. But the fact that the mayor and his top aides are friends with all these people outside of the work zone is also why this has become such a problem. The mayor doesn't want to fire people who he knew their father, and he came up through the ranks of the NYPD and worked with them. There's just too many layers. There's just too many layers. Well, there's too many layers. A warning signal when the mayor first took office, that we haven't really talked about, is the cronyism and nepotism that occurred when mayor Adams took office, you know, how many elected officials, former city council members, his friends and buddies from the NYPD, how many members of commissioners now? Or, you know, look at Louis Melina. Like these are people that have known Adams for many, many decades. Right. He installed loyalists inside the administration, despite the fact that some of those loyalists, some of those longtime family friends, et cetera, had some real warning signs. People told him to not appoint Phil Banks as deputy mayor for public safety. You're talking about someone who has already been ensnared in a federal investigation what going on 10 years ago that was an unindicted co-conspirator. Right, and this is also the difference again, between people that are civil servants, right, and you have to take the civil service exam first and appointment based because appointment based, I mean, this happens in every administration and every level of government, right? You end up hiring people that maybe there are some semblance of connection. But the Adams administration across the board has cabinet, those connections are almost like tripled, right? Like you look at Sheena Wright, first former, first deputy mayor, married to David Banks, who was the former outgoing DOE chancellor, whose brothers with Phil Banks, who's also brothers with Terrence Banks, who's a lobbyist, who is lobbying the administration, allegedly. Yeah, there's so many connections that are in a personal, yeah, not just professional level. And it goes to the idea of were you hiring these people because of personal political relationships or based upon merit. Right, but now they're all gone or almost all of them are gone. And look at who he's replacing Sheena Wright with, you know, you're putting Maria Torres Springer in that position. She is a long time city bureaucrat, how many administrations has she worked for? Yeah, she was in Bloomberg, the Blasium. I think she said that she's worked for the city for 30 years. You know, she is someone who is an expertise in housing and economic development. She was the deputy mayor for those categories prior to her ascension into the first deputy mayor role. And I installing her, I would argue, is that the mayor is trying to, you know, put forward a clean slate saying, I am putting professionals forward. I'm burned, you know, how much involvement, I mean, the mayor was asked about this, how much involvement the Hochl had on her selection. Okay, so the mayor has said, listen, no one tells me who to hire. No one says this is the personnel choice, the governor, the next day. But he said he took some of her suggestions. Right, right, right. I'm just saying what they've said on the record, right? And the governor said, listen, I'm not giving him a list and he has to check it twice. However, those two have been on the phone back and forth more than, you know, just covering Hochl, more than I've seen those two talk in weeks or months. Yes, they're close, they're Democrats, they're moderate, they care about crime, they rep a huge constituency that Hochl really cares about. They've been on the phone almost on a near daily basis. Hochl has said to him, and her staff has been talking to City Hall, you need to clean house of people. I don't know if she said you need to elevate Maria Torres Springer to that job, but she has said, listen, there are certain people who there's a problem, deal with it. So, Maria Torres Springer, I mean, like you guys just said, she worked for Bloomberg, she worked for de Blasio. She also is somebody who's been up to Albany a lot because of that housing package. So she has had firsthand experience dealing with Hochl and her top eights. So, the governor's team knows that they can work with Maria Torres Springer and she's someone that is different than those friendship-based appointments. The mayor was super defensive when he was asked specifically about whether Hochl had signed off. She had signed off on the decisions. Yeah, let's actually take a listen to that. The governor made it clear that you're the mayor of the city. You have an obligation to continue the success that we have done together. The governor and I have been extremely successful together. She's a partner and she's the chief executive of the state, but she has made it very clear, you have to pick your team and make sure that you can continue the success that you're doing. Okay, so clearly he's trying to tell New Yorkers, at least trying to tell New Yorkers via the press, that he's still in control of City Hall. Right, and I thought it was interesting too that he said Maria Torres Springer is now gonna be conducting a review, I think he said, of personnel and policies at City Hall, so it sounds like there may be some sort of restructuring at City Hall, although at that same news conference, somebody asked him, are you still gonna have a deputy mayor for public safety, which was Phil Banks' role and was kind of a new role that didn't really exist before. And he said yes. It did, I think many decades ago, and it was suspended maybe under Bloomberg. But that position and Tim Pearson's position kind of had the, you know, kind of seemed to have been created for them. And the mayor said he is still gonna keep those positions. He's gonna fill them. So I don't know how much restructuring there will be really, but also Maria Torres Springer, you know, like you said, she already has a full plate. She's dealing with housing, which is a huge job. She's in charge of ushering through this city of yes, legislation, or trying to usher it through. And then now on top of that, she's gonna have all the responsibilities of a first deputy mayor, who's basically like in charge of running the city. - Yeah, through the office manager for the entire city and all the city agencies. - So she's gonna have a lot on her plate, I think, suffice to say. - So we have all these people leaving, and then what happens also this week is new charges. And these charges are for Mohammed Bahi, or listeners may not know who that person is, but he was a senior liaison in the community affairs unit of City Hall, primarily working with the Muslim community. He had resigned this week. That was one of those resignations that we got, I believe, on Monday. And then just a day later, at six o'clock in the morning on Tuesday, he was arrested, and he faces charges of witness tampering and destruction of records from the same federal prosecutors. - Oh, going through. - By the way, two. - Who were indicted by the mayor, yeah, just so happened that he resigned and then was arrested. So the indictment says Bahi helped organize a fundraiser for the mayor in 2020, and as part of that fundraiser, Bahi allegedly encouraged the owner of a Brooklyn construction company to reimburse his employees for donations, effectively making them illegal straw donors. When the feds caught wind of this, Bahi told those people, those straw donors and the business owners, the business owner, to lie to federal investigators. And then when feds came to search his home in July, he didn't answer the door for a while. His ex-wife answered the door, and then finally he answered the door. And feds said, according to this criminal complaint, that during that back and forth, he potentially allegedly deleted the messaging app, Signal, on his phone, which is how he was communicating with the mayor. All of that happened, and then the mayor had his weekly off topic briefing. And this is what he said about Bahi. - I always found him to be thoughtful. I always found him to be willing to go into all the communities, but what he has done to really bring down the noise in some of the conflicts that we're seeing today. I think the record will speak loudly for what he has, and that's what I'm going to do. - He's still praising him. He says that he is a good public servant. - I can't imagine another mayor doing that. - Well, you know, a cynic might say when somebody has been indicted, and one way to get leniency when you've been indicted is to begin cooperating with federal investigators. - And this was not an indictment, this was a criminal complaint we should know, which is a slight distinction that means that the grand jury has not officially indicted him yet, so that basically the feds, the people from the US Attorney's Office, went to a judge and signed off on this criminal complaint, so we can arrest this guy, which is also a tool that you could get to get somebody to flip. - Exactly, so let's just say in a scenario where Mayor Adams really didn't want this guy to begin cooperating with federal investigators, probably doesn't want to say like a lot of bad stuff about him, so he had only good things to say about Muhammad Bahi in this complaint. By the way, you know, for people who don't know signal is a messaging app that you use when you don't want people to know about your communication. - Yeah, it's encrypted, and it deletes after you set a deletion period. - So the fact that-- - I actually don't like using it because I like to, I use my text messages sometimes with sources as like-- - 'Cause you go back and look at it. - Yeah, so I don't use, I mean, I use signal at one point, but then I was like, you know what, this is just annoying, too many apps. - So I mean, the fact that Muhammad Bahi was using signal to communicate with the mayor in itself is not like illegal or unethical, but it's a little weird. - Well, I think that the feds are very interested in the mayor's use of signal. - Yeah, right. - But I mean, I would say that I was on the one hand, I was kind of surprised that this arrest and indictment didn't get more traction this week. Like it didn't actually seem to blow up into a huge issue for the mayor, which you might think, you know, 'cause here's another person who's been arrested in connection with the investigation into the mayor. On the other hand, it wasn't really, if you read the complaint, it wasn't really that incriminating as far as the mayor is concerned, right? I mean, yes, he was communicating with him. - I disagree, I disagree. - But it doesn't say, well, first of all, the only time it mentions the mayor is the communicating with Bahi on signal. And then also Bahi said when he told these alleged straw donors to lie, he said, "Well, I spoke to the mayor "and the mayor believes that you're not cooperating." - The mayor does not think that you're going to cooperate. - Right, so, but I mean, we don't know if that's true, and even if he did, somehow, I mean, it's almost like witness tampering, but like one degree removed. And even if, I don't know, and also, by the way, wasn't that in the original indictment of the mayor? - This anecdote about a Brooklyn construction company is in the, I think he's businessman for indictment, I think. - So I'm just saying there's nothing that new or explosive or damning of the mayor in this complaint. If there had been, I think that this would have blown up into a bigger story. - Yeah, and to Bobby's point, this is also what the mayor's defense attorneys are kind of banking on and saying, "Hey, you don't have any text messages or emails "or proof that the mayor or recorded phone calls, whatever." You just have people saying, "Oh no, I talk to him." It's kind of like, to play devil's advocate, it's like if I'm at school and I'm like, "Oh yeah, my mom said I could come over today." Just banking on the fact that my mom will say yes, right? So it seems like the mayor's defense attorneys will hinge on something like this, and then conversations with Rana Opusova, the other city hall aide who is, we've confirmed as mentioned in the initial indictment, who is also speaking on behalf of the mayor, but we don't have the mayor's words either in proof of emails, texts or audio that we know of. That we know of, we just haven't seen it yet, and that's also what the defense says. They say, "Listen, we've got it all. "We've got it, we'll show you. "It's gonna look great." But if they haven't, I think that they would release it. I don't know. I don't know, I mean, I don't know. I think it depends on how, is there gonna be a superseding indictment, which most people think that there is going to be a superseding, that there will be additional charges against the mayor, and there's potentially, Damien Williams said that, or even the U.S. attorneys, that their most recent court appearance, the AUSA's, had said that there's going to be potential new charges and new defendants in this case. We already have another defendant. - Yeah, they said it was possible there'd be more charges against the mayor, and likely, I think they said that there would be more people charged. Well, and now we already have seen more people charge, but there will most likely be even more to come, I would predict. - Yeah, it is a head spinning amount of development and information, and it feels like every day, it's just hard to keep up. But we're doing our best here. So, for now, we're gonna keep it there, we'll leave it there. 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Okay, but at the end of the day, honestly, if I moved to Florida, I'd be like, "Yeah, I'm from New York." Who wants to say you're not from New York, and who wants to claim Florida? No offense. - And then you would come back and play MSG? - Exactly, I'm doing that. No, but my point is, you know, I think with all of the news over the past couple of weeks and months about New York being back in play and being a battleground state or with battleground districts on the congressional end, just talking to people, they say, "Listen, yeah, Democrats do have the voter registration advantage over Republicans." But Trump, it almost seems like he's coming here to play on a little bit of the woes that Democrats have been complaining about. Again, they're worried about not having pickups in these congressional districts on Long Island in the Hudson Valley, who, you know, they rely on the New York City media market. Also, with Eric Adams, Trump has commented on Adams and said, "Listen, yeah, I think he's gotten a raw deal to paraphrase, you know, and I understand that." He's gonna get a ton of coverage when he comes to New York. It's a couple of days before the election. I, you know, Joe Biden easily won in 2020, New York, but it's kind of like a way, perhaps, to make a big splash and antagonize their opponents. - Right, and kind of get under the skin of Democrats. - Exactly. - I mean, to be clear, New York is not in play in-- - No, the state itself is not in play, but there are congressional seats that are. - No, for sure. - And Trump was just in Long Island a few weeks ago having a rally and brought out Anthony Diasposito, right? - Yeah, Anthony Diasposito, Nick Lalata, and, you know, Tom Swazie just won back the George Santos seat in a special election. But, you know, Long Islanders commute in. Long Islanders read the New York Post, the Daily News. They watch TV. I mean, yeah, they have news day, but like at the end of the day, they do really follow what's happening. - So you're saying that the rally will help those Republicans who are running in those congressional districts? - I would argue yes. - I mean, some people said this is just a vanity thing for Trump. He wants to play, play a Miss, play a Miss G. - Speak it up. - That's not really Joel now. - Play the garden. - Yeah, I mean, we'll see if he can pack the house. It's, I think it's 20,000 for this type of event. I mean, that would be pretty impressive if he could fill 20,000 seats in MSG. - I mean, he filled the Coliseum, didn't he? - Yeah, how many people are there? - It was close. - It was smaller, but-- - It's smaller, 5,000 or less. No more. Okay, why am I saying things with numbers? I'm so bad at numbers, but-- - It's gonna be a mess, by the way, 'cause there's gonna be protests outside. - And just the area of the city, it'll be a mess. But look at where it is, right? Penn Station, you're gonna have people pouring in from New Jersey, from upstate New York, from Pennsylvania, Long Island, Connecticut. New Jersey doesn't arguably, again, they rely on New York City media market or Philly. There's plenty of people in New Jersey who, yes, it's also a democratic state, but if you look at like the local races, Phil Murphy had a tough time winning re-election in the last cycle, right? Like, I would really, really not count out Republicans in this-- - And Trump had a huge rally on the Jersey Shore. - Yeah, that too, right, because deal, right? He'll get people at the rally, but he's not gonna win New York. I mean, the last time a Republican won New York was 1984. I mean, when Biden was still at the top of the ticket, there was some polling that said that there was single, there was maybe a single data race in New York, which would be astonishing. However, that was months ago, and I think subsequent polling we've seen, is that Kamala Harris is, you know-- - Yeah, about double-digit lead at least, like close to 20 points. - Yeah, but only, no, it was 13 points, I think it was 13 or 14, the most recent ones. So, I mean, so clearly she's going to win, I think we can safely say. - The veteran Biden was doing. - But Biden won by 23 points. So clearly New York has skewed closer to, is skewing to the right, compared to where we were four years ago. I mean, again, Trump is not gonna win here, and the conventional wisdom is like nine days before, election day you should be out in the swing states, not in a state where you have no chance of winning, but first of all, when has Trump ever done something conventional, and he's done pretty well up to this point? And, you know, second of all, it's just one day that he's gonna be spending here and to your point, Bern, it's gonna, you know, it's the publicity is priceless. - Is there any way you think that this doesn't happen, that there's gonna be enough vitriol, or, yeah. - No, he won't pull back. - And MSG's not gonna, I don't think so. - Well, think about James Dolan, right? - Yeah. - As he's a complete albatross, he does his own thing always. I mean, I was talking to people yesterday about, I was like, what is his relationship at this point with Governor Cathy Hochl, or with the prior governor in Drew Cuomo, and it's like, it's kind of like whatever serves his benefit, which, at the end of the day, I guess you have to give him credit for. Like, he's not like other billionaires who are just like, well, I have to do this because like, I have so many stakes. Like, he said FU, so many times. - Yeah, but he's literally getting lawyers arrested for why he was. - But I guess my point is, I don't think we can look to MSG to pull the plug on this because you have people saying, and also, look at the governor yesterday. When I asked her about this, she said, this is America, and we have the right to protest. I mean, sorry, we have the right to, sorry, Bobby's distracting me over here. We have the right to gather, and you know, well, if MSG needs additional security, the MOPD will be fine, but like, she wasn't even saying, no, we shouldn't have that, because that asshole sets a danger as president, too. - Yeah, right, and MSG's not gonna change to their minds just because Brown women see all, who comes out and says that he thinks they should cancel. - At the end of the day, they're a business. - Yeah, I mean, he compared it. Brown home in Siegel compared it to what, I guess, the Nazis had a rally in the 1939. - Yeah, which, right, and that's, you know, freedom of speech, he has the right to say that, and say, listen, I'm completely opposed, and I will be there protesting, but at the same time, this private entity also has the ability to net a contract with this campaign and make money off of it. They don't care. - Yeah, and by the way, we should mention Trump rallied in the Bronx, right, a few months ago, and actually drew a huge crown. - You were there. - Yeah, I was there. I mean, there was people who didn't get in because it was so crowded, and the security line was too long. - There was some reporting that I saw that there were like 60,000 tickets requested for the Nassau Coliseum rally. I don't know, like, I mean, that was probably a Trump campaign figure, so who knows if that's true. But there's enough demand, I think, for him to fill that stadium, honestly. - Yeah, but then there's the, you know, Democrats, they didn't roll out the welcome mat yesterday, but they're also saying, "Hey, if Trump wants to spend his time here and not in a swing state, you know, then better for Democrats." So, I don't know, there's maybe something to that, but again, one day in New York, sure, it's nine days before the election, but he's spending plenty of time in Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. - I think you guys made this point, but he's coming to the media capital. - Yeah. - So, you know, there'll be a lot of coverage. It's, you know, - You'll be there. - You come to New York, yeah, we'll be there. - We hope you're there covering it for us. - Oh, yeah, you guys are on vacation, forgot. Okay, that will do it for this week's episode. 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