The Real Money Show
The Real Money Show - October 11th, 2014
broadcasting on the course radio network and worldwide via the web for over six years you're listening to the real money show brought to you by guild hall wealth management today in studio we have the president Paul Wiseman as well vice president Jeremy Wiseman and our senior analyst is here as well Darren Long and while respecting the bullying community have been addressing and speaking with the public at large and their seminars and speaking engagements for a combined 21 years and guild hall has been helping people the world over since 2002 to purchase an own physical gold silver and natural fancy colored diamonds they are representatives not financial advisors or planners and past performance of gold silver colored diamonds is not indicative of future performance the number to start investing always one eight seven seven eight silver the real money show dot com and make sure you sign up for the precious metal advisor when you're there good afternoon guys so you start i got to say congratulations Darren you got written up a couple of articles um on the internet that happens all the time i know we get written up all the time but it's usually what articles were all you're talking about the good thing the good thing it's all yes no it's it's a when we write we try to obviously expose the rest of the world to what we're thinking and uh fortunate enough to have another article published this week and uh went out to i believe gold eagle and uh gold investing news and a few other sites from there but um that's been a long process and ongoing and uh obviously it's something that we're very so we're still gonna be friends when you're famous yeah no we would definitely be that famous or infamous but if you if you don't know which sites or you don't catch it on the other sites you can sign up to the precious metal advisor because they're always on on that and i think after this week everybody needs a little breath of fresh air considering where the prices of gold and silver have gone as we tape the show here on thursday the prices of gold and silver have rebounded dramatically over the span of the last twenty four hours gold is trading well above twelve twenty now and uh into the twelve twenty five range while silver is uh traversed its way back up towards the seventeen fifty range both had lower prices during the week and of course everybody panicked this is of course the regular plight of folks who have invested in these markets but the consumers we have the people who have invested in gold and silver saw this as an opportunity john and majority of them came across and bought something whether it was one ounce ten ounce or a million ounces people came and uh looked for this opportunity as a buying opportunity and we're here because we want to congratulate people take advantage of that lower price of course it's a falsity it's not true the price that you saw on the screen is definitely something that is the result of uh no real news substantial news there's been no real significant change in anything relating to the bullion markets and uh quite the opposite this week we've had a ton of buying and demand numbers are backed up and as we approach the end of the week we're sitting here watching the Dow and the stock market in the u.s tumbled today over three hundred points well i i think one of the most interesting pieces of news or or perspectives was put out by john embery this week being interviewed on king world news because everyone was so excited about all the job numbers that came out and when we looked specifically at the job numbers it went to mostly people above 55 when we're talking about the job numbers in the states over i think it was around 250 thousand jobs but yet over three hundred thousand people dropped out of the labor force or looking for a job as the fed keeps their stats so the u.s actually lost jobs last week but everyone was excited the propaganda machine was rolling and when you look at the states and you see that their unemployment figure is down to six percent from i think the high of eleven five from a high of about eleven percent and yet as john embery was saying about ninety five million people are unemployed in the united states you kind of have to ask the question what is actually going on and you know i have a friend this week who um heard his ankle heard his foot and he had to go to the hospital and when he came back he has a cast and he said it's not broken i said what do you mean it's not broken he said well the doctor says it isn't broken but there's a tendon so it's in a cast i said so let me get this straight your legs in a cast and it needs to heal for for many weeks he goes yes i said that's a broken foot it doesn't matter how you say it it's broken and the u.s. economy is broken doesn't matter how they can decode it the u.s. economy is toast and you have to look at these numbers and start to say okay what is the game plan now now the game plan of the central bankers they don't have one they're just going to come up with the next excuse to create more money out of thin air with with what they perceive to be no consequences but no one's been through this and truth always prevails and everyone's going to realize that the u.s. dollar has no value so why is it going up in the first place well the reason for it going up is really simple all the other currencies are going down so the u.s. currency is the best house on the worst street i mean basically that's what it is right now every time countries print money it doesn't matter whether it's the u.s. canada europe great Britain they have the ability they have that machine to print money what's happening japan as an example they're printing up so much money that they make their currency so cheap the u.s. dollar has to go up so now you've got the stock market they're needing an excuse on the dow for example we're recording this show thursday afternoon on Tuesday the dow dropped almost 300 points you know the people on cmbc they were back pedaling they didn't want to say yesterday the stock market went back up 275 points nothing's changed it's beautiful the stock market is great you should keep on investing in the stock market today we're down over 300 points what's the excuse again you know the markets the empress got no close and if you don't see that these markets have been manipulated especially the stock market the fed is coming out with zero zero zero interest rates you you know banks are borrowing for nothing yet they're not lending the money they're putting it into the markets and that's what's going up there's a cool case going on right now now where Geithner is a witness that's timothy Geithner timothy Geithner and it's a i g which was financed or bailed out by the u.s. government that took over 92 percent of their business in 2008 the investors are suing basically for 50 billion dollars because they got shafted they really got shafted between Bernanke and Geithner and the rest of the boys and they did a pretty good job the since 2008 the fed has come in and that we've had money been put into the markets we've had so much money put in but it hasn't trickled down to Joe public the average person that got burned in 2008 has not recovered the wealthy they had a hundred million dollars and they dropped down to 50 million they didn't lose a square mill you know they still had their places in Palm Beach they still had you know their homes in New York they didn't do any damage obviously the prices have gone up they've done pretty well and they've recovered everything that they lost the average person had 30,000 40,000 in the stock market got reduced down to 15 $18,000 never put his money back into the market the retail investor never got back that's why you've got to look at investments like gold silver natural fancy color diamonds hard assets we were smashed down and this is probably the best time to buy gold and silver i bought silver and gold myself this week i thought it was an unbelievable price and i'm very very pleased with my investment one eight seven seven eight silver and the real money show.com Darren well i wanted to just talk a bit about the headlines versus the reality and again it's one of my favorite subjects but Jeremy was touching on the job numbers and we did mention the last week's show that we would expect the NFP report the non-farm payroll report to show decreased unemployment and of course an increase in jobs but what is amazing about the report if you look at it and read behind the headlines is that apparently not only are part-time and temp jobs now considered equivalent to full-time jobs which they call temporary help services which is one of the economy's fastest growing segments of course in the US but so are short-term subcontracting assignments more over three quarters of the jobs created in the fastest growing segment which is they call professional and business services emanated from a subcategory titled and this is not a lie administrative and waste services primarily temp services that's an actual category and it doesn't doesn't amaze me anymore that when you look behind these headlines what you're getting is a clear picture that we could add 10 million temporary jobs it doesn't add up to the real full-time career positions that are needed to move and generate real revenue real tax streams to get the economy back on track for me the essential ingredient in understanding how i can get ahead as an investor as an average joe somebody that just wants to put a little more bank into their dollar every time they invest it it's to find quality assets that over the long term not the short term but over the long term will generate a return for me that's honest and that certainly speaks volumes towards what is happening in the rest of the world if the rest of the world is sincerely really having the problems that we in the show talk about surely then assets like physical gold physical silver perhaps some real estate in the right market location location location is a simple no-brain decision and should be on the top of everybody's list now to get bullion in your investment portfolio or to own it it's very simple in calling our firm what you're going to get is enough information and education to understand the markets but if you go to our website and you're literally if you're in front of a computer right now go ahead and go to guildhallwealth.com in the top right corner you're going to have a small logo that says a e-store for guildhall and if you click that it'll open up the ability for you to buy bullion online in coin form in bar form small and large orders and it couldn't be easier and what we suggest is taking a look at your overall portfolio and perhaps putting as much as 15 to 20 percent towards bullion to help you gain and get ahead as time progresses on now the other option we have which is really simple if you want to store your bullion you're not really comfortable with taking it home or if you're buying a larger portion of silver or gold we have a depository and it's really really easy for you to come in meet with our team anybody that you're going to open up an account with decide what you want to spend and then of course allocate that money towards gold or silver in doing so the depository will allow you to store it it's vaulted segregated allocated you can get your serial numbers if you so desire and of course you can visit your product and see your product whenever you like provided you give us a little bit of heads up notice that you're going to be arriving and again this is something that we've done for a long time and couldn't be easier for an investor and what we actually also have for the depository is if you're out of town and you can't make it to Toronto to you know go and actually audit your product yourself we do have video audits so you can see your product you have your serial numbers you know what your inventory list is and then you literally see the guys in the warehouse auditing your product on camera and then we send that to you it's a small fee but it's a great way to say yep I know it's there thank you very much and go from there again what this all comes down to is we don't know where all of this creation of fiat currency and denying reality is going to head to but we do know that the currencies don't have the value that they pretend to have and so if you want to protect your wealth or in this case because bullion is so low in price and undervalued it's an opportunity to grow your wealth it's a great time to look at the market if you if you don't know much about it get on to the precious metal advisor call an advisor get an investor kit um if if you do know a little bit about the market you've been watching it just as we saw this week we saw a lot of clients come in and say well we know the price doesn't get to look this good so we're going to finally make that entry point so we believe it's a great entry point great to have in your portfolio to protect we're not saying you need to have 50% of your portfolio but to start 10% maybe 15% you can call us at 1 8 6 6 2 7 4 9 5 7 0 you can go to guildhallwealth.com you can go to therealmoneyshow.com we're making it very easy for you to learn about bullion get involved whether you purchase it and take delivery through the e-store whether you deposit it into the account or whether you buy it directly from us we're going to help you and the beauty about the e-store is that there's you know there's no specific amount that you have to buy I mean if you want to buy you know 10 maple leaves you know it's a couple hundred dollars worth of metal you can get into it whether you want to pick it up or you want to have it delivered um on you know on our e-store e-commerce site you can buy maple leaves you can buy silver maple leaves seaver eagles one ounce bars 10 ounce bars a silver hundred ounce royal mint bars same thing on gold you can buy um gold maple leaves you can buy one ounce uh royal mint bars you can buy 10 ounce bars we brought in a kilo bar john to show you in in the studio you know that's a forty thousand dollar bar at all it's heavy it's heavy but you know it's nice buy that type of product they put it away they put it in the depository it's safe it's secure and as Jeremy said and and Darren said we can give you the bar numbers it's allocated it's segregated it's insured with Lloyd's in London there's no better way to store your metal you know I don't recommend putting metal at home you know there is home invasions and it's not a good thing to keep anything of any value especially coins uh gold silver at home it should be in a safety positive box or in a safe security positivity one eight seven seven eight silver and the real money show dot com start investing we'll take a short break lots more of the show coming up the number has always to start investing get on it one eight seven seven eight silver and the real money show dot com Jeremy tell me more about the e-commerce site tell me more about the depository if you would sure well we can combine them um it's we make it very easy for anyone to get involved in the market and see what type of bullion that that is available what the pricing is and you can either take the straight delivery through the e-store or you can have it shipped to our depository where it's uh allocated segregated um you get your serial numbers you get your title documentation you can visit your bullion and audit it yourself and it's fully insured actually until January 1st um we are offering free storage for new purchases on uh on bullion so this is a great time to get involved in the market not have to worry about your your cost of doing business because obviously it does cost a store and ensure um physical precious metals but at these prices we want to encourage as many people to buy as possible it's a it's such a great time to get involved in the market if you look at the fundamentals if you look at the supply demand structure i was talking to someone this week as an example he was telling me that someone was saying that the reason the miners are stopping and slowing down is because they've been mining so much that there's actually a dearth of physical precious metals and specifically silver out there which is why the prices are going down now it's this sort of fallacy and and bad arguments that have no bearing in the real world um it doesn't take much to find out how much bullions actually available and if you look at the Shanghai warehouse and how much silver is being depleted out of that warehouse you would quickly say well there couldn't clearly be a big supply of silver if the if the supply that's already there has dwindled over 90 percent in the last year what's going to fill it back up well what's going to fill it back up is mining industry and miners aren't making money at 17 dollars an ounce i'll tell you that they're probably making money above 20 dollars an ounce so silver couldn't be more oversold it couldn't be more undervalued and so we want to encourage people to get as much as they can in their portfolio especially if they're new to it and the easiest way to do that is to either go online and just pick your bullion and take it home or you can put it in a depository and not have to worry about any storage up until January 1st and again there's no fees involved and our normal you know storage charge is probably one of the cheapest storage charges out there is 1.3 percent a year for storage that includes insurance and it's insured with Lloyd's in London you can't get insurance for that type of money and look at your home insurance that goes up every year try to ensure your jewelry or you know it's an incredible incredible price to ensure so 1.3 percent a year to store your metal is very very cheap and we're giving that away to the end of December 31st you won't be charged any storage till the new year this is a great great opportunity and Jeremy said you know metal is being sold at an incredible rate there was more US Mint Silver Eagle sold I believe this month or last month record numbers so you know you watch programs like CNBC and they just tell you that gold is down silver is down the stock market is wonderful yet why are people buying up in hoards absolutely hoards precious metals and we sometimes get into a situation where we actually get back ordered from our suppliers we know what's happening in the market this is a wonderful opportunity to buy product when you buy physical product at Guild Hall we only sell physical product we don't sell equities we don't sell ETFs we don't sell certificates futures options and futures we sell physical product as I said before we showed you a kilo bar of gold John it's something of value that's a forty thousand dollar US bar that's you know ten bars of that is a home it's it's incredible what you can hold in your hand so this is a great opportunity as well get our investor kit get our precious metal advisor this will keep you up to date every single week of what's going on in the metals business one eight seven seven eight silver online like Paul said the real money show dot com hey Darren hey john hey Val he was just reading earlier today an article and one of the things I like to do is follow trends and one of the trends that's happening with the ultra rich right now is purchasing has gone up a significant percentage this year of four hundred ounce bars four hundred ounce bars are not for everyone right that's cold right yeah four hundred ounce gold bars right I mean those are expensive and they're not for everybody but the fact of the matter is that if you look across the board in measurable statistics the major sources for four hundred ounce bars are reporting a significant increase and if we draw our attention to the super wealthy these are people who have 20 million or more in wealth net net value they are moving out of paper assets and into physical they're buying real estate they're buying gold and it's just one of those things it's happening I mean to me it's like the Italian job happening everywhere you know people just want their gold bars tucked away but these are usually stored in vaults of central banks or kept underground places like Fort Knox although we don't believe the product is there these bars are now going into the hands of individual investors and families and they're protecting their entire family's wealth with them and this is an article again you can get from the precious metals advisor it's called the super rich or preparing for a crash are you and that's just an essence an article talking about how to follow the smart money and if we take that premise at face value that's just one of the things that's being done right now to assure people's long-term wealth now in addition that we were talking about job numbers earlier but one of the things that those ultra rich are commenting on right now is that they feel they don't know exactly how it will happen what it will look like but they feel as though there's a changing tide that the stock market has been bolstered up by falsified investment data like job numbers that tell us things are okay but in reality or not and when you look at those types of numbers and you compare them to the data for me and it's only my opinion it's just a matter of time before things like gold bullion silver bullion get explosive and really get out of control for the average person there will come a time during the span of of of when we are here and doing this show in which we're going to see the price of gold be unattainable for the average person at three or four thousand dollars an ounce which is not a big jump at three or four thousand dollars an ounce the average person is now starting to buy half an ounce of gold instead of one ounce of twelve hundred and change and to think that that won't happen is in my opinion slightly naive but quality assets are hard to come by and we are staring down the barrel of a market which everybody knows I mean we're not going to beat around the bush about it has allegedly been manipulated for a decade or more so what do you do do you invest in these cheap prices or do you sit idly buy and continue to do the same thing over and over again well right now a lot of people are sitting on the sidelines and they're not spending their money what money they have the little money they have they're putting in the bank and they're getting nothing in return for it in fact they're losing purchasing power because they feel more confident that in keeping it in the bank there is no wrong turn however the worst mistake we can make as investors is actually to see the market jump higher and then to start participating you don't really want to wait for gold to go back to eighteen nineteen hundred to be a confirmation of sorts that the price is going to be higher long-term you want to take advantage of this and to do so is just a matter of understanding the very basic fundamentals is there an expectation a reasonable expectation that the u.s. dollar will fall long-term the answer is yes is there a reasonable expectation that because of the amount of money that's been printed that we will have some bout of inflation long-term the answer is yes this is pro gold by the way pro bullion is there a reasonable explanation to to to why the geopolitical instability continues in the world there is people are unsafe they're unsure and terrorism among other things is a huge threat so long-term that's not going to slow down there's still going to be pockets of that everywhere and of course sovereign debt that goes along with geopolitical instability and the world is now globally in debt and then lastly do we think that it's reasonable to assume anytime soon that we are going to have some type of new geological discovery in which we're going to be inundated with hordes of gold mines or silver mines take a look and do your research and come back and email us if you have the answer in fact Jeremy Paul or myself or anybody at our firm email us if you can answer me this question how many knew what we would consider blue chip or very large mining operations that are pulling pure silver out of the ground have cropped up in the last 10 years if you can answer me that I will give you a little bonus something there you can get people to call in we'll give them a little something I don't know what it is just threw it off the curve one of the interesting things you just said Darren is that you know gold could go to four thousand dollars very very quickly um I just went back on looking at some records um in early 1970s you could have bought a single family home in Toronto for around about forty thousand forty four thousand dollars today that single family home is going for around about four hundred and forty thousand dollars now gold was trading at thirty five dollars an ounce so we've gone from thirty five dollars to a high of nineteen thirty but let's take today's price of twelve hundred and twenty five dollars it would take to buy that home for forty four thousand dollars at the time it would have taken twelve hundred and fifty seven ounces of gold at thirty five dollars an ounce today that single family home is worth four four hundred and forty thousand rather than forty four but the twelve hundred and fifty seven ounces of gold is worth a million and a half dollars in actual fact one million five hundred and thirty nine thousand you can't live in gold obviously but as a second investment it would have done pretty well and that's over the span of four decades but at today's price it would have only took 35 ounces of gold to buy that house for forty four thousand that was that one kilo bar that i actually brought into you you could have bought a home so if we see an uptick in gold to thirty five hundred four thousand it will be unobtainable for most people because the people that own gold and the people that take gold out of the market we're not we're talking about we're not talking about paper markets we're not talking about equities we're talking about when you buy that physical product that is taken out of the market it can't be you know multiplied a hundred times over and leased out or rented out you've got it whether you've got in your safety deposit box or whether you got it in our depository it's time to own gold especially these prices twelve twenty five i think it's an absolute still i'm looking at the stock market right now we're down three hundred and thirty points on the down this is the start of our ruts it's going to move down and when the stock market goes down gold and silver goes up i'm telling you today today's date remember it markets going to go up one eight seven seven eight silver on the real money show dot com yeah we had a we had a chart this week in the precious metal advisor that showed that over time generally speaking not on a day to day but but even a month a month or over a period of a couple months that gold has kept up with the rising debts in the u.s. and what you can see in this chart really clearly uh picture says a thousand words is that for the last two years gold has not been keeping up with that debt and for whatever reason over literally a century there's been a disconnect between where the price of gold is and that the debts keep going up it's pretty clear that this is market intervention and not not the market uh naturally finding where the prices are but what it does show and Paul's just touching on that is that gold is undervalued with where we are right now and in 1980 there was a trillion dollar in debt and gold hit a high of eight hundred and fifty dollars that was one to one with the Dow imagine if gold were to go to the current 850 to where uh the current debt is in the 17 trillion and and the Dow at 17 000 points you'd be looking at a 17 times increase on that 850 dollars so do we need it to go there no but it does it does demonstrate the point that the that clearly the debts need to come down the Dow needs to come down or otherwise gold is going to have to be revalued much much higher from here the physical world matters Paul's talking about housing the physical world matters what what you pay for gas matters what you pay for um chicken breasts matter what you pay for gold matters and you need to start thinking about what am i paying in a matter of gold for this product what has gold always bought in this product well how many dollars does it take it quickly makes you help you have that paradigm shift that fiat currency you don't need inflation you don't need anyone to to just steal your gold or confiscate your gold inflations doing it all on its own you're losing purchasing power gold and silver help you maintain purchasing power and since they're so undervalued right now it's a great opportunity to help you grow that purchasing power so get your inflation rebate check by buying physical gold in silver and storing it and i want to leave this segment with with uh something that we always use in this industry is you don't wait to buy gold you buy gold and wait take a short break one eight seven seven eight silver and the real money show dot com the number to start investing one eight seven seven eight silver and the real money show dot com paul let's talk diamonds i love this part yeah well there's been some real real interesting things happening in the uh diamond world uh the argyle tender which we often talk about is um a mine the argyle mine is owned by Rio Tinto and every year they put 55 to 60 of their best best diamonds of the year into that tender it's a blind tender it's held actually in Perth Australia Hong Kong and it was held in New York um a couple of weeks ago the tender closed this week and we will know uh probably in the little while who won what product um we partnered with with uh our partners out of New York uh in some of these stones last year we didn't win one stone in 2012 we actually got three um this year we are hoping to get some you know magnificent stones that we are interested in uh the thing about the argyle tender it's all about color um this year's tender there was only four vs diamonds out of 55 diamonds i believe all the rest were si one si two and i one but the colors are the most important there was actually some reds there's some purpleish pinks um pinks and tens pinks and vivid pinks um but only four stones were vs quality uh and there was a little bit of larger stones this year which was unusual um which means there's stones for the argyle mine of just over a half a carat the argyle mine produces smaller stones a guildhall our argyle diamonds that we normally put on are a minimum of roundabout a quarter of a carat we feel that that is the best investment grade though the smallest we do sometimes is a point 18 point 19 if we're buying it on pure color and color alone which is very very important but every year when the argyle tender results come up the prices of diamonds especially pink diamonds and then the vivid yellow diamonds and other diamonds follow seem to move up between 15 to 20 to 25 percent according to what these tender prices now we had an auction last this week or last week yeah um in early september we we mentioned that there was going to be an auction with sotheby's in hong kong talks about it a few times on the show that um what was going to be auctioned let me just get the right info here was an 8.41 internally flawless vivid purplish pink diamond so we did talk about it we said that it would probably that the max that they were looking to get for that was about uh 15 million for an eight and a half carat diamond again it's a vivid purplish pink and this one particularly happens to be internally flawless well when we skip ahead to what we what what happened when the gavel fell on the auction it actually rounded out into the 17.7 and a half million dollars for that diamond so what we have now is yet another record at auction for pink diamonds and colored diamonds in general this is not so much of a surprise for us we've seen this time and time again it's a reflection of of the very wealthy seeing these diamonds as a great place to store wealth they're buying them because they are investments they don't buy them just because they're beautiful they buy them because they're extremely rare and extremely beautiful and when you can buy something that is of such exquisite quality it's always a good investment and what does that mean to pricing though overall especially for you guys well what you're seeing is then you get the auctions now we're going to combine that with the fact that that the people bidding on the tender diamonds are willing to spend a little bit more and so what we're going to end up seeing is the diamond price is just like last year and the year before that and the year before that and the year before that people are going to be willing to spend more and it's not just because someone was willing to spend that money someone's willing to spend that money because the demand is there but the supply is not these diamonds don't come along every day pink diamonds don't come along every day last year we saw over 10 diamonds that were a vs quality in the tender this year it's it's less than 10 it's four less than five four so so defined quality is very difficult even selecting from those 50 you know yes there's sight holders for argal and and we'll be able to find maybe another 10 if we're really lucky maybe 15 diamonds that are a vs quality argal pinks throughout the year that's still a minuscule amount of diamonds that we're going to be able to get our hands on that is the quality that we're looking for to help the the customer be able to profit from that by investing in that so auction prices breaking records tender bids going up as usual the combination is prices are rising and it it makes complete sense why we can never hold a 0.22 to a 0.38 diamond that's pink whether it's fancy or whether it's intense we can barely hold on to that that type of diamond when we bring it in especially if you go to our website guild or diamonds you'll see that we're selling diamonds you know especially the argal pinks they're very very hard to get the vs you know the argal mine produces 90 percent of the world's pink diamonds you know the other diamonds come from Brazil in some parts of India and South Africa but they produce 90 percent of the world's diamonds yet it's only one tenth of one percent of their total mine production so you can see how rare these diamonds and to come and they cut and polish their own diamonds so when we get a hold of an argar diamond it doesn't if we put it up on the website we actually had two diamonds this week that we sold before it even went up on the website we sent out to our customers mailer and they actually got sold before you know they went up this is what happens when you're a customer a client of Guildhall diamonds we give you the insider we give you the inside track to diamonds so when we bring a diamond in and we think it's a spectacular diamond we let our clients know that we've got the diamond before it goes out you've got that opportunity to buy it and sometimes in most times it's much cheaper than it's going to go up on the website because i haven't even got an appraisal on it yet i'm just going on a cost plus basis but they are great great investments there's a proven track record since people have been keeping records for the last 40 years natural fancy colored diamonds have never ever dropped in price 1 8 7 7 8 silver and the real money show calm is the number that Paul is talking about to start investing um let me ask you something if someone is a client of Guildhall they've just heard about the auction and they've heard about the increase in diamonds they must be looking their chops if they decide if they decide to come back and sell the diamond right because you'll take them back yeah if a client bought a diamond from Guildhall first we want to understand that Guildhall had to work really hard to find that diamond so we're standing behind that that product as it were and we're more than happy to help a client sell that diamond of course it has to be understood that that's going to be sold at the right time you can't buy you know unless you're unless you're spending half a million dollars or a million dollars on a diamond you're not really looking to sell that six months later or a year later just like you wouldn't buy a studio apartment and try to sell that the following year and try to make money on it just doesn't happen so it is understood that you have to hold a diamond for a certain amount of time now that's going to be a conflict for most investors because um after five years six years the type of gains that you're going to see in the diamond are going to be so encouraging tempting you're not going to want to let go of it because you know that it's only going to keep going up in value and what we sort of term in the industry is money in the bank that when you sell that you'll feel naked you'll say okay i just sold something that i bought for 20 now it's you know it's been 10 15 years now i'm selling it for 60 000 or whatnot 50 000 60 000 now what if i buy a diamond if i try to buy that diamond again look at where i'm at i'm not really moving up i'm gonna have to put more money in so just like people buy real estate they go from the studio to a two bedroom to a house to a bigger house and then sell and go retire this is what's so wonderful about color diamonds it is a retirement plan without having to think about it you didn't have to sign a whole bunch of contracts you didn't have to monitor it day in day out and maintain it and worry about it if you buy it if you buy a diamond today for your children's education 15 years from now you know yep i'm gonna have it so i think that security aspect of it knowing that there's a place to help sell it when the time is right is very comforting to the investor and that takes away a lot of the risk the only thing that the customers aren't necessarily getting is that liquidity you don't you don't sell a diamond in a minute and but you're not looking to sell it every minute and you know a lot of people say well a stock is is is liquid yes but when are you selling it if it was 50% down it's still liquid are you going to sell well the color diamonds color diamonds only go up in value so yes you have to wait but and you you lose a little bit of that liquidity but what you trade off on that is the is the returns and no customers ever lost money buying a good or natural fancy color diamond and we feel that this is one of the best kept secrets in investing one eight seven seven eight silver and the real money show dot com will take a short break and lots more the show coming up hang on one eight seven seven eight silver the real money show dot com Jeremy I noticed Guildhall Diamonds the website if you go there's a point five three argo on sale up on the website great looking diamond a what kind of investor is looking for that type of diamond and what kind of a return would you get on that type of stone yeah it's it is a beautiful diamond it's a it almost has a a strawberry pink type of color to it and we've enjoyed having the diamond but for 129,000 this is for someone who maybe knows about color diamonds they they've seen the type of growth that they've that we've seen in pink diamonds and so there's very little risk in purchasing a diamond like this diamonds and in this range you're you're going to be getting 20 plus a year on this diamond per year at least in the last five years this is what we've been seeing well over more than 20 gains every year on a diamond like this how do we know that well not just the auction records being explosive as we talked about not just that we know people are over not over bidding but bidding higher and higher for tender diamonds themselves but we know every time we go to replace a pink diamond because the supply is so short because everyone's vying for such a small amount of product that the diamonds are always more expensive when we go to purchase them so this diamond would be very very difficult for us to replace so this would be for anyone again who knows that they don't want to take a lot of risk with their money they're happy to put it away for five to ten years where they're going to in this case probably double their money two times over at minimum and enjoy it at the same time what's also nice is this diamond is big enough being at over half a carrot that it can be that it can be placed in jewelry and really worn and enjoyed at the same time so many different people could be looking at this but I think ultimately if gains are what you're looking for and you've got a little time on your side let's say five years this is going to be something you really really want to look at it's an emerald cut too right so it's just in a piece of joy that's really going to pop right yeah emerald cut is is wonderful what it emerald cut really does is show off pure color yeah because you're not getting that colitis scopic a thousand points of light that you would get let's say in a radiant it's it's a wonderful um vintage cut in in the sense of emeralds have just those nice clean lines they used it a lot in art deco a jewelry and ultimately it really shows off color this is why argyle really likes to use the the emerald cut for their diamonds one eight seven seven eight silver the real money show dot com and i'm sitting on it right now gilt hall diamonds dot com beautiful beautiful stone ball it's an unbelievable stone and this is the type of investment i mean if you're sitting you know with with money in a g_i_c_ and you're making one percent a year if you're lucky and you're being taxed on it uh you know this diamond would be an unbelievable investment to put away whether it's five years ten years fifteen years you know anybody that's looking for that great great investment you should buy an argyle pink it's safe it's secure it's a it's a great great investment and the argyle mine is supposedly going to be closing anywhere from 2018 to 2020 and what this means it's like a great artist that all of a sudden dies there is no more art there's not going to be any more pink diamonds available and and if if you've been involved in real estate and you've seen some great gains in recent years and you you've maybe sold a property or two and decided to take that profit and now it's sitting in the bank and you're not quite sure what to do with that and maybe you feel you don't want to take any additional risk in the in the real estate market at this time again when you're purchasing a colored diamond you don't need a lawyer you don't you're not signing a stack of paperwork it's so easy all you have to paying land transfer tax yeah exactly all you have to concern yourself with is is how you're going to personally store that diamond which isn't the biggest deal so i think if you if you've been in real estate and maybe you've taken your profit and you're you're sitting with a you know three hundred thousand or whatnot you want to put a bit of that to work again this is a very easy way to do it and you mentioned you mentioned wealth to wear is that something you guys facilitate you can make that happen of course we have a we have a designer we make bespoke jewelry we assist the clients to design a piece themselves uh they they pick and choose things that they like from retailers or designers and they come up with an idea and our our designer will help them bring that idea to life that would be so much fun to do with a nice diamond well it is as well and remember you know my daughter Nicole she's a gia alumni diamond grading graduate and jewelry expert and you know we have her input as well when we work with a client of what design you know to suit the customer and you know if you're at a certain age as well and you know you're looking at your investments and you're looking at estate planning in my opinion there's not a better way to do estate planning to you know give you your whether it's your kids your grandkids an investment whether it be gold silver or a natural fancy color diamond especially a diamond you know if you go to guildhalldiamonds.com you can get into a natural fancy color diamond a yellow fancy for just under ten thousand dollars and that's an internally flawless diamond all the way up to you know three four hundred thousand dollars that we show on the website we also have other diamonds that are in the seven figure range uh but again that's by selection and choice uh that we especially you know use with our clientele but this is an investment that you have to look at as a long-term five ten fifteen years that you put away this is when we're talking about auctions the diamonds that we're seeing in auction are diamonds that were kept by the very wealthy royalty that are now coming to light we you know you don't see diamonds of 25 and 30 carats in pinks or yellows out there today they're just not available you know you have to mine round about ten thousand carats of white diamonds to find a natural fancy color diamond that doesn't mean it's an investment grade to find an investment grade diamond you have to mine over a hundred thousand carats so to find a one carat vivid internally flawless you're mining maybe a hundred and fifty thousand carats of white diamonds to find that type of diamond so this is extremely rare extremely valuable and this is the type of investment you need to hold and especially you know we love diamonds but the other product that we feel is a great great investment is gold and silver and we offer gold and silver through two different types of investments you can buy gold and silver take it at home delivery or we offer you a depository if you go to our website guildhall wealth you there's an we have an easter where you can buy online gold silver with a click of a button and we'll get back to metals in just one second one one question as it retains the diamonds Jeremy still the best kept secret i think it absolutely is the best kept secret we're still not seeing what we're seeing is retail stores are starting to get involved in colored diamonds because it's uh it's new it's different for them to sell that white diamonds are beautiful every single white diamonds gorgeous but in some cases it's not expressing the same sort of individuality but if you're on the street and and you happen to to be with someone or yourself have a colored diamond you know that this is still a best kept secret i know for myself when i'm out with my wife someone will see her her yellow ring and say oh my god is that a canary okay yeah that's a that's a that's a term that's it you know it it yes that is a term for colored diamonds but it's so much more than that and i think that to learn more about colored diamonds it doesn't cost you a thing you just log on to guildhalldiamonds.com and request some information and learn about colored diamonds and i think the fascination will grow from there and when you're purchasing diamonds because there's all different types of of colored diamonds they're not all created equal what we're really trying to do at guildhall is to say look if you're going to buy a colored diamond just buy the absolute best quality colored diamond that you can buy not only is it going to be beautiful but it's also going to retain and grow in value why go out and buy something that's not investment grade you're talking about that Darren have a little one two punch help with a diamond and back to some precious metal what's great right i have a client last week who did exactly that bought a little bit of silver five thousand ounces of silver 200 ounces of gold and a couple of diamonds and although this is not for everybody and not everybody has that type of budget to start with uh the idea that you're going to diversify within this uh asset class is important because it's maintaining one of the premises of investing as a whole which is to remain diversified and that's a great thing because on one hand you've got silver and gold which is let's not beat around the bush of volatile asset to hold from time to time but again because of its volatility uh in terms of speculation long-term you've got that expectation that on any given day you could gain you know 10 15 20 percent uh versus the diamond which is steady there is no volatility you're not going to wake up and get a phone call from your broker seeing the diamond market is diving and again at least not in the last 40 years anyways and although certainly past performance isn't indicative of the future what we like about this is that by putting a little bit of money in every category you give yourself the opportunity to benefit from both classes so if gold and silver are doing really well one year and of course you gain you know a nice 20 30 40 percent uh ROI on that investment side you might elect to sell some of that silver and gold and again bulk up your collection of diamonds many clients can't stop at one it's like a Dorito chip i'm telling you but uh or not Doritos is it it's uh lays it lays but it's uh it doesn't matter it's tasty yeah they like they enjoy that idea that at first it's just a raw investment they know very little about diamonds but they're interested in making money but then they realize that collecting these is something to talk about uh you get lineage with these there's a story behind every diamond like Jeremy was saying before the process of selling isn't as easy as picking up a phone like a stock or a piece of gold or silver the idea that we want to instill in people's understanding how that diamond was created in some cases it took months months upon months to create a diamond one diamond by one to cut it to cut it and make that diamond finish billions of years to create it well to read it but i'm saying just to cut it right so in terms of selling why should selling be any less you know sometimes the right buyer is out there but we don't want to compromise on price we don't want to compromise on quality and you're sure is heck not going to compromise on your return and investment so that's important in key parts of this ownership of those assets. Paul talked about that diamond you showed the point five three and you know hang on for 10 15 20 years could you imagine a diamond like that in a hundred years from now goes three generations it'll be unbelievable 150 years from now that's what's happening now in the auctions i mean these diamonds that coming into lighter from the turn of last century of middle of last century uh you know they were exquisite exquisite diamonds that were held by basically royalty and now they come into market you know people have lost faith in fiat currency and what you're seeing at auctions is is very very wealthy people high-end jewellery companies buying these diamonds to resell to other royalty or to other new new new rich people and people understand that this is an investment that will keep on growing in value as as i said in the last 40 years since they've been keeping records have never ever ever dropped in price and the other thing that we find really important is you know to own a hard asset gold silver is really really important we've made it very very easy we've introduced an e-store e-commerce store on our website guildhall wealth management you can go you can buy as well as little as you like him you know silver maple leafs gold maple leaf 10 ounce bars of silver 100 ounce bars of silver all from the royal mint it's available for you of a click of a mouse and the same time if you want to open a depository account which is safe secure allocated segregated this is where we can store your metal for you for a very very inexpensive way up to January we're not charging any storage our storage fee is 1.3 percent a year storage that's including insurance with loyds in london which is an unbelievable deal this is a great time to own gold silver and a natural fancy color diamond give us a call you've had your education now make the next step one eight seven seven eight silver and the real money show dot com he's an exceptional assassin to celebrate the thrilling new series the day of the jackal showcase and stack tv are giving one lucky viewer the chance to win a trip to london england police all over europe are looking for him let's go as a ghost head over to our instagram and see the contest posed for details on how to enter i like to win so do i and watch the new series the day of the jackal premiering thursday november 14th only on showcase stream on stack tv