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No, no, because this is only the first part and we'll be recording the second part later in the week listener. I nearly said Joe Pearson, who constantly is a guy that I play football with on a Friday night here. Who isn't a Palestine and would not be able to offer many good opinions. But anyway, Joe Pearson isn't here, Jack Pearson is here and Joe Walker is here. You can tell I've had a long day today, Joe, how are you doing? I'm very good, thank you. Yes, I've already been on the pod talking about this game. Of course. Accident. Well, I say, yeah, walking out of the ground and who shall I see, but Rob Sutherland and Julian Chenery, so I just stood my way into the conversation, very difficult when Julian is there. Joe frantically googling other exits for where he sits for a round next time. Did get a couple of comments in, but yeah, lots more to talk about still. Can I ask on behalf of all patrons, Jim, are you and Rob putting in the Comedy Sound Effect of horses walking up Omer'sdale Road or is that actually just consistent every week? Yeah. That is genuine. But if you like it, I could sample it and just drop it elsewhere and maybe I'd drop it in this podcast as well. Who knows? Who knows? There might be some horses. I don't live on a rural road. There probably are some horses. You live in the china. So, yeah. I might say, it's a listen. Joe, what? Just have a little listen. Steve, you can hear some horses later on in the episode if I remember to put that in the edit. It has a bit of spice, isn't it? Spoilerless. Spoilerless, he will definitely not remember to do that. Right. Let's, in a minute, talk about that. Neil, Neil, draw as Jack said, sort of game with two halves, really. Before we do that, a shout out for our patron content, loads of content. 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We're going to do three-to-one later, Jack, and I think we all know who's going to probably win the three points in that, and he's had the most questions, so feel like, shall we just go into that, and we'll just cover... Will Hughes. I thought he did okay. Two-to-one more. So no more. T-shirt coming soon. T-shirts. Yeah, indeed. I did enjoy your tweet after the game, which simply was just, I thought Will Hughes did okay. One, because it's an in-joke now and a reference, and two, because it worked. He did okay. Yes, he did. Worked for all occasions. Worked for all... Worked for all... Worked for all... Yeah, we'll come back to Will maybe a bit later. He might probably win 3-2-1 a bit later on. Dean Anderson got the plaudits. It's a matter of natural performance, really, wasn't it? I don't think it's much of a spoiler to say. It's probably going to get three points in 3-2-1. Brett Steinman says more 3-2-1 points for Henderson. How about Brendan Rawlsen giving him six points? Brett, we'll get to that. We'll get to that later one. Tony Rundell says, "The reason we have such great goalkeepers is they get so much practice, smiley face." Jack Aubrey is one for you from one chat to another. Anderson Blinder, keeping us in the game, is that good or a bad thing? Well, the speed at which he was needed to make saves in the early part of Saturday's first half was alarming, the ease at which he and I were getting efforts on goal was alarming. Thankfully, he was bang at it and made some very, very good saves. I think the pick of them was probably the first of no, which I think was the gone-attro one, where he gets it around the post, but I thought the delicked head of one, I mean, it's luck and I don't want to take credit away from a goalkeeper, but his body positioning allows him to make that save and his response was as good as it can be in that situation, but delicked really should score that. I guess the other one I've noticed was later in the first half when it was like a hybrid of a moonles deflection and a tip round the post from Henderson, which I wasn't quite sure if he did make a save, but I think he did. I think I've seen it back and he did. But then we pulled ourselves together and thankfully the only save of no in the second half was the flying save from gone-attro's curl deficit, but the first half, the first half was, no, Neil, Neil, the one man's efforts only and rightly so, Dean Henderson is starting to get us plawed. I think we need to find a better chance than Dino as I thought Dean Gordon had made an appearance or something instead, but... Dean Austin? Dean Austin, all the greats, but I haven't actually, I'm not going to go on tangent, but listen, I'm just going to say, are there any other clubs who have had more famous deans than Palace, but... How are we doing 11? Can we do 11 of deans? I will not. I think we'll do well to get a six-assigned team, but yeah, I thought he was excellent, but the ease at which I'm getting through was very concerning. In open play, as gone-attro got played through by Xerxes, that was too easy, and then the header from Delict was far too easy as well, and I think Laquat was probably a fault for both of them. He improved as a game went on. I'm sure we'll talk about him maybe a bit later, I don't know if we've had any questions about him, but yeah, that first half was not great, and the reliance upon the goalkeeper probably typifies how off it we were in that first half. I actually thought, and I haven't seen it confirmed, and I was only watching it from home. I thought he tipped the gone-attro shot onto the bar, the one that's again in the first half that curled onto the bar. The one that then Fernandez Vollied onto the bar. It looked like he got a tip. No, I'm really talked about it. Maybe he didn't, but he certainly was very close to it. He had a very good first half. I don't think he had that good a first half. You might have made that one up. Okay, maybe. Correct me if I'm wrong, listen, if you've seen another angle of that. The thing is, Joe, we've, what's the opposite of giving someone their flowers taken away their flowers? We took away his flowers in some games recently, where he has been at four or four goals, or collectively at four for some goals. There's only right that we praise him, and I guess it's a reminder that, and Jack's right, that there's some of those chances were created way too easily, and Palace were completely under the caution. The other day, the keeper doesn't have us great a game, and you go in two or three down at half time. It's a reminder, and Glassman said it after the game, that you do need an excellent goalkeeper in every, in every Premier League end of season, and we clearly do have one. So it's a nice reminder that after a few weeks of being a bit unsure about Deano and some of his mistakes, that there is a £20 million goalkeeper there, but it's not the way you want to be reminded. No, I guess not, but maybe it's the only way to see that demonstrated really to your club of our size, a Manchester United goalkeeper or an Arsenal goalkeeper. You've seen when they, when they sign new ones, that the test for them is more about their concentration and their discipline, and actually they'll be called upon once, and will they be there when it's called, when they're called upon, whereas I think you can't avoid it with Palace. It's more about, you're going to have the world thrown at you at some point in the season, if not every game, and it's, how, what are you able to do about that, can, are you able to take the, the barrage of chances when we play a, a team that's on the up or just got a hold of the game when we don't, because of our recent success, maybe we haven't felt like that for a little while, but I thought Saturday was a great example of that. Maybe the game he needed as well, you know, you can add all the extra motivations that people have seen have put on to him for it because it's been his previous club and left there perhaps a little prematurely for his liking, but a goalkeeper with a big price tag certainly in Palace history, Palace context. So a game where he's busy making lots of saves, what we said last week comes across a bit of a confidence player, would have done him the world of good, and it was so many chances that the crowd was, or it wasn't just a little bit of a credit, I think the whole stadium knew why it was Neil, Neil at half time, and who was responsible for that. So really pleased for him in that respect, given what happened on Tuesday, you know, has a really great moment, and then reason to take that away again, if you're a particularly cynical supporter, or just frustrated, whatever, whereas Saturday, thankfully the cross bars, you know, all that stuff. Even at one, Neil, he over performed to keep us in the game after that first half. You know, a good thing that the second half of the only had a really one big chance to deal with, which even he admitted in the post-match, there's a nice Sky Sports' YouTube, they uploaded their full post-match interview of him, which obviously didn't see it at the time, because it was at the ground. He admits that was a bit of a Hollywood one from Garnet, showing us the cameras. I think Phil Jones calls him out on it as a pundit, and he agrees, not that reluctantly, but yeah, that, I guess, symbolizes how much we changed at half time, how much we just genuinely improved as a team. I could talk for, I could talk for 14 minutes about that first half, there was a lot that was wrong. There was a lot that I would not like to see again, there was a lot that I couldn't understand why we, you know, a plan that we seemed to keep trying that didn't make any sense, and I'm glad it all changed at half time, and I think in the post-match pod, when I made my cameo, I was trying to stress that, you know, it is good that those things are seen eventually, and changes were made. It was slightly more proactive than reactive, I was trying to give him credit there, but the initial plan, plan A did not work at all, it was as bad as I've seen it, underclass. It was, and it was kind of a lot of the same issues, which I think we've already covered in, in, in, for recent weeks. Just with Dean Henderson, I actually think, I think he's very palace, because he's clearly very talented, has flaws, and that's obviously the reason he's at palace, but he's a, he's a real character, he's big celebrations after making saves, you know, a genius message in and said, "Great shot, stopper, but the inability to play football with his feet kills me," he says, and that, that does, that is true, he does often seem sort of panic, panic to clear it, but I just, he feels very palace, so I think, I think he, he feels like a palace goalkeeper, but on a Jack, moving on to the subs, as Joe said there, and I think, I think you do, at that point in the game, I think you do have to call it proactive rather than reactive, because it is very early to make, making subs like that, there were a lot of eyebrows raised, because it was watered and mettedter off the lemur and salt, not the moves I think people were expecting, but to hand it to Glazner, the match changed, and the second half was absolutely nowhere near as, at one sided, as the first half was, what was your reaction when those subs were made, and do you think this is a moment where we do need to give the managers some credit? Um, well, I think you have to say, I'm happy to give him his credit for making the subs and, and changing the, the course of the match for the second half, but I think he got it wrong before kick off with that team selection and the way that we were set up. So I think, yeah, you, you give it one hand, but take away, well, you take away one hand and then give it back with the other hand, given the, the, the sequence of the changes he made. So we're going to give him his flowers and then take away his flowers. No, no, we take away his flowers, then give him his flowers, because he, he then improved as he went on, but it is good to see a manager react like that. You know, he, he didn't send the same 11 out. There's probably issues that underpin both substitutions. You know, we don't need to speculate more about Adam Walton's fitness, but it's clear there are issues there. He didn't have a particularly good first half. And, um, it's a shame that he didn't come back out, but clearly something's not quite right there, but I won't speculate as to all that is. I have no idea. I suspect it might be related to just general fatigue. That's my hope and I hope we're not. Um, there's me saying I won't speculate and then going on to, to speculation, but you know, young midfielders, I think I referenced it a couple of weeks ago, I do recall Stephen Gerald when he was coming through really suffering with the amount of football he was playing and his body still growing and developing. So I, I wonder whether Adam Walton's experiencing something on those lines. Sean Flick, my test is an interesting one for me because I thought he had a shocking first half, but at least he was providing us something centrally, which I didn't think could be matched by anyone else. But pleasingly, Ishmaelah Sart had a very good second half, I thought. So in retrospect, the subs did work at the time. I thought, well, that's, you know, two of our best performers towards the end of last season, which we keep harking back to being hooked. Um, so it was a big decision by the manager, but he got it right. The second half was a lot better. We were a lot better structured. Um, and, and I enjoyed that second half in parts. There are elements of it still that things aren't clicking, but I think what we should probably put on the record is just how much an improved Manchester United team that was compared to what we saw in May and, and not to talk about another club because I feel like we made one of the episodes last week, a bit of a QPR centric part, but I was genuinely quite impressed with United at points. There's, there's still toothless in parts, but yeah, they, they look a much better side. Um, and I think that's a good point on Saturday. Um, I get, I do understand the frustration that, that people include myself are having in terms of, uh, you know, when yet they're season the league and in all clicking as fluently as it did towards the end of last season. But I think we have to look at, at that point on Saturday as a good point and made all possible by the changes that the manager made in, uh, made it a half time. Yeah. It's actually six teams without a wind decision, but I think it's the most so record. Yeah. Yeah. In the Premier League. In the Premier League. So since, since people began in nine, nine, two, um, I think you do have to think, uh, they were bold changes, Joe. They were bold. You know, it's not the way to say it. They were, they were ambitious changes and, and, and they paid off. Rob Lewis has said basically the same thing Jack said there. Glasgow has shown real class decisions and tactics at halftime. He now needs to get it right from the start of the game and maybe change the tactics occasionally. The wingbacks aren't working, but I would rather have a manager who, and I think you, I think you kind of get this right from him in press conferences as well, like is ready to admit when things aren't working and he's made a mistake and change it up. Um, because part of me thinks at some, at some point he will then get it right. If he's someone that's open to change and open to holding his hands up and going to say it working, then surely odd suggests that he will start getting it right from the start of the game. Yeah, not, not that it is a choice, but I would always take the kind of manager that will own those mistakes and make the changes rather than one that will just stick to the initial plan regardless and, and own them, own their mistake in that way. Um, but yeah, to not just make those changes, but to take off sort of the golden geese, if you'd like, on, in the team, it's a very popular players. I guess, you know, with a sort of a deep refuge and step back, you understand why a war to the animateta might be taken off broadly, apart from the first half performance. I must admit, my, uh, having come out a minute or too late for the second half, I just assumed that a commander had been hooked and I was like, yeah, great decision, of course, you know, you know, yeah, you've got to change, you've got to change the, the most recent, you know, if it's this bad, you take out the most recent change in the team. So yeah, obviously it would be comada. And then just having a look round and can't see Adam Walton and go, ah, okay, maybe I'm going to be more luck to an agreement now. But, um, that's, that was for me was the biggest call in the started lineup on, on Saturday. And he clearly rates him. It's clearly his guy. And, uh, he's, it's almost like it's on a personal mission now to make sure that we see what he sees so that it doesn't become this. We don't, we don't have this. It doesn't get, it's not a talking point every single week that that's comada. And I did think he improved in the second half. Um, but there are lots of changes in, in the tactics as well. For example, there even before half time, Chris Richards and LaQuire were swapped round. And that really seemed to stop Garnacho generally. I think, um, I think it was Richards that then seemed to have a much better handle on him than LaQuire did in the back end of the first half. There was just so much, you know, the, uh, I think if someone mentioned the listener mentioned, uh, Dean Henderson's kicking. I couldn't tell if that was just by design, like as in, by that who's being asked of that because so many of them, granted, some of them were over hit and stuff, but they were all towards Daniel Munoz, who, you know, it's not much of a, you know, Dallas, not the tallest fallback, but he's also not so, so short that he should be the target every single time we hit it long. And I found it really amusing and that as a symptom of that, and a thing that I've had a problem with, I spoke about on last week's episode, having Daniel Munoz do everything on the right hand side while an Eddie and Catio or Dutch commander has a, goes as a walk wherever they like as fun as that can be. Um, I think we finally saw the really bad consequences of that in defense. Normally it's been an issue about our, where's the overlapping and attack to help him. We're not, we've been a bit toothless down the right side. That first half we saw actually Daniel Munoz is 60 yards up the pitch and United are just playing the ball between him and this huge gap between him and La Croix and gone at Joe was having an absolute feast for a period there. We did eventually quell it, but yeah, I felt like that between that and the way the midfield was first off, they were just bypassing several players with a single pass on, in that first half. And it was just incredibly frustrating. Like it was, you know, had you not seen this team before? What's going on here? So yes, good day changed. I think as a result La Croix grew into the game. Um, and the midfielders, you know, for all the kind of the, the commander chat and they may be more, I, I did think he improved the game. And is my lassar, dare say we were talking about, will he get a starter Premier League soon? I, I would almost expect to see him start there on Saturday now because I think it was that much of it. It's the longest he's been on the pitch, I think for us. Um, and equally, it was the biggest impact he made. Was it very unlucky not to score? But what would have been a very fortuitous winner I suppose? But, um, yeah, just really good hold up play. And, um, you know, just turn of pace, taken on players. There was a chop for the, the as a big as a chance of second off, there was a lovely chop that took out to United defenders in the box. And he's got quite a box of tricks. 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But even that worked by, yeah, it was a good 45 minutes for the manager, but it's on the back of him getting it wrong in the first place. So I will temper my congratulations to the manager because he had to get it right after getting it wrong. But even that sub worked when a lot of the fans, including myself around where I was, were thinking why you're taking the kettier off. He's been now most direct threat, I think, because I think it's his diagonal run across the pitch, which led in the last five minutes of the first half to Eddie's first chance, which I think has been somewhat forgotten about because of how good the second chance was. But that chance the first half is one that you'd really expect to have to make more of than he did. But that came about with Eddie and Kenny running kind of right to left and playing Tyreakin, who, again, a bit like the JP's first goal against Leicester, first time cross back in. And I think should do better with that. But what about the chance in the second half? I mean, I was just waiting for the ball to kind of hit the net there. That was quite the chance and would probably would have been quite a famous win, actually, given how poor we were in the first half if we had nicked it. Well, that chance sort of summed up as a this season so far, really, and got into a lovely, lovely interchange with Sarr and got into a good position. But why he's not going across the goalkeeper there? I don't know if he's trying to sort of give the keeper the eyes and the obvious one seems to go across goal. My theory on that having watched the replay of it, Epps falls over in the build in the run up to that chance. Yeah, he's a dancer. So I think Sarr has chopped those two defenders, and he's still on the ground where I think he's had an accident. He's tripped with a United defender. And so he is sort of cool like, you know, the evolution of man. He's like, pulling up to all of steps, trying to get upright. And that ball is on its way to him. And I think he just throws a leg at it, or at least just tries to do the rather than take a touch and get some composure. I think he's just right. Let me just try and place it into that corner, a corner which he knew as well, like a corner, by the way, which where he was aiming, and Anna had totally covered. So I think he would have saved it. It was on target in that corner. It needed to be on the other side. And they're just very unfortunate. But yeah, that's, that's it. It's funny, even though the kind of more, what would you call anonymous is heart, even the underperforming as performance by his standard still has a couple of really guilty chances where he is always likely to still be a difference for Palace this season. And that that's a really interesting evolution that we've got with him at the moment. But it's still one you take given how few chances and goals we are scoring is that you let him go missing for long periods of time. If he's still going to end up on the end of things a couple of times in the 90 minutes, that says, you know, it's a cliche, but it's why you have flares like that on the pitch, because they will still find those spaces and those opportunities, even if they're playing a six out of 10, a five out of 10. Rhett Steinman says, would the essay at the end of last season have scored those two goals and the opportunities he had? Well, the first chance is very similar to the goalie score downfield in the first time finished between the legs. Maybe that's the vibe he's going for. So yeah, I think Rhett's probably, yeah, maybe recalling that, that incident. Yeah, he, I don't know, it's tough isn't it? Because in another universe, he's scored seven goals this season or something stupid with, you know, the chances that he should have scored and the shorts off one at Brentford and the one that overlaps off his mind of Charles Lacy, so therefore he didn't score that against Norwich. Like in another season, his stats look incredible, but I think so many fans are seeing it in terms of ebbs at the moment that I think it is fair that we talk about it, but it comes with no malice. I think there's nobody dare suggest that he doesn't start the next game because you both just suggested he's the man who chances of falling to and he is there. And there are bits of his before I grew, which I think anonymous probably is the right words used for his first song performance on Saturday. But then there were elements of his performance that I think are quite brave. You know, he comes looking for the ball and he dances across the halfway line and, you know, he's trying to make something happen because there was literally nothing happening for us in that first 40 minutes on Saturday. And he did start to come to show. I think he got fed up himself just thinking the ball's not coming through to me. And at times I do think if Daishi Kamado is going to play in the midfield too, that line between Daishi Kamado and Eberich he has a does need to be looked at because often if Mark Gay is looking at playing the ball into ebbs, well Daishi Kamado was almost man marking him at points. You know, looking from the homes down lower, straight to where episodes are thinking that the lines aren't working as much as you would like them to. So, but that's I guess is an element that we and many other fans are talking about that things just aren't clicking yet. And, you know, I think Salzy said on the supplement, you've got a week between United and Everton, then you've got a week between Everton and Liverpool. And then you've got two weeks between Liverpool and whatever the first game after the International break is that I can't remember off the top of my head. But you've walls will possibly or no forest is forest on the Monday night. Oh, yeah, got moved. So you've got now the type of gaps between performances with everybody available. Be it will lose some for the International break that Glazna benefited from so hugely last spring when he took the players away. So I'm hopeful things will start to iron out that type of clicking as we've called it. I hope we'll start to come. But yeah, more second half than first half, please, Palace. I think I think we are we feel like a team that when it does click, you know, happened last season, Glazna didn't, you know, hit the ground running. There was a spell where things are coming together. But when it clicks, obviously we had Lisa, who's, you know, the clickiest of all clicking players, but it doesn't make sense. But I feel like we are a team that when it does click and we have players that many times, I say the word click in one sentence that when we do when it does start clicking, I think, and and abs is exactly one of those players. I think we just need a bit of patience as fans and a bit of belief. I think we need to believe as much in this manager as equally does in himself. And I think we said it last episode. We need to show the team players like commander and abs as much belief as possible. Because I think that that's all confidence will make them better players. And just before we move on, speaking of confidence and I guess ebbs, Ebbs, late substitute, Jeffrey Sloop, I thought was excellent game on. And I really hope that if that if this is a role that he's going to be called upon a few times this season, which I imagine we will because of the size of the squad and the fact that depth is always tested, that gives me hope that we'll still get some moments out of him this season. You know, he's quite maligned. He's quite a little bit of a punch line. I would love to see another great Jeffrey Sloop moment this season. And he really did pin man, you know, back for that last five minutes or so. There was a moment when the ball dropped to him and I flashed back to that ball in front of Tuesday night. When I thought he's off and then he checked himself. And I thought that's either the years catching up with him, I say, five years older than him. Or he was just told to maybe not go on such extravagant runs and just maybe play the clock a little bit. But I thought he did well. I said earlier, I thought he used to do well when he came on. Thought Lerman was good, but it's made us all probably the pick of the subs. Yeah, the little run, jinking run towards the the byland, didn't he? Whenever he just come on and then went to prepare course. And that is a lovely of old. I think we would love to see again. But yes, I suspect it will be late cameos for the likes of ebb or sloppy this season. Really briefly, before we go on to three, two, one, then ag boy money has said, when is a red card tackle? Not a red card. And I think it's the only other moment of the game we have to talk about Jack really, because that was insane that he didn't get sent off for that ridiculous decision by player to to make that that tackle. That's all like I I I say, do you think it was record? Well, yes, in principle, but by the letter of the law, it's not because he has to break does she come on as ankle or dislocate all of his ligaments and his knee for it to be considered a red card was the P G M O L's explanation was not a bit make contact it. It was reckless, but it wasn't dangerous because he didn't make contact, AKA. Yeah, I mean, the bit that is actually very concerning about that is not just if he can't if he'd make contact of commanders leg, the angle, which does she commander is at that could have been a horrendous injury. That could have been, you know, two legs of pressure down on a on a angled right leg of does she commander? I think we could have seen does she come on as leg ligaments, everything going one hit there. And look at this way, if David Cooh had pulled out a red card, it would take one hell of a B AR to say that's not a red card. Yeah, absolutely. So I think it's disgusting that he decided to make that tackle. And for the protestations from the United players, people like, this is where people like Bruno Fernandez, Bruno Fernandez, my inner Portuguese, go out there. I liked it. That was nice. To protest at that and for Dean Henderson to get a yellow card for saying, are you serious? Seems ridiculous when equally within five minutes later, the ball ricochets in the penalty area and three United players run around the referee asking for a penalty that was never likely none of them receive a yellow card. So it kind of typified the different approach. I mean, that was not the moment of the weekend regarding the Premier League referee or PGML's statements. But yeah, I thought it was it was really all from Martinez. And from my opinion, for what it's worth, justified a red card and I doubt about it. It was a weekend of errors. There was some West Ham should have had a penalty. Obviously, there's the whole man, a man city Arsenal red card thing. There was a goalkeeper that handed outside the box and it was a Brighton game and didn't think it's better. Mad. But this is, I think, Joe, this is really all about intent, isn't it? Because it's really hard, I think, to defend that kind of challenge without saying that there's or try to defend the angles and there's no intent. You can't clearly, there is, you cannot jump off the ground with stud showing and then say there's no intent to injure or damage. Even the stupidest football in the world will know that there's a high chance you're going to injure someone by doing that. And surely, that means that it should be a record. I'm really interested in some of that because it was obviously a big talking point after the game. It's a really interesting kind of analogies that people were using and as to their reactions to that tackle. I saw one that said, if that was on a Sunday League pitch or Saturday League pitch, that's a 22 man brawl starts there. That is an absolute kind of provocation for really bad reactions, which tells you to kind of, you don't have to get there. Just the fact you're diving in like that at all is just non central. I follow multiple Sunday League Twitter accounts that have many challenges like that. Yeah. Kind of the reason I watch it. That's my problem. Yeah. And then for someone that is apparently kind of this, only the eyes of many night fans, it's sort of an elite defender. It's certainly world level to be doing that in a Neil New York seller's park. It's just bizarre. There's no there's no prior needle there in terms of him as a player and commander. It's just an extraordinary challenge. And in terms of that, it wasn't Rob said, drink driving. Yes, if you get away with it, if you don't hurt anybody when you're drink driving, you don't get charged as much as if you do. But there is the charge for doing it anyway. It's still enough of a punishment that it's inferior deterrent. And I feel like a yellow card for that kind of challenge is not a terror at all. Not at all. And so just everyone looks stupid after that not being a red card. I think even sort of Manchester United in a cold light day will be pretty embarrassed how that is. It's just like so strange. I missed it at the time of the ground. I didn't realise I didn't see the necessarily how he challenged into that ball. I just saw the, I just couldn't work out what Dean Henderson would have earned a yellow card for. I was like, what's the foul that bad? And the fact it didn't go to the fact it was overturned by VAR is your reaction from Henderson and Gay said it all for me. 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Before we do that, their lads, I would like to do a shout out to the panelist women's team who kicked off their inaugural WSL season this week. Unfortunately, it was a four-nil defeat at Tottenham. A tricky game on paper, and as it turns out, a tricky game in real life as well. I did watch the game, and I should say that I think, or this one certainly is, I'd imagine all the games are available on the WSL YouTube account, which is what I watched it on. I know Palace is next game at home to Chelsea this Friday is live on Sky. If they're not on Sky, I suspect they might be available on the YouTube account. So definitely worth checking out. Most games are 2pm on a Sunday afternoon. So perfect Sunday afternoon fodder. Yeah, I watched the game. It was a very, very difficult first game away at Tottenham. And in a way, it was a weekend of keepers for Palace, because Palace's best player was Shay Ianez. I think making her debut, I mean, a lot of debutants, because obviously Palace made a lot of signings I talked about last week. She was excellent, absolutely excellent, pulled off. I mean, the sort of saves that really could have kept it down from double figures. She was absolutely brilliant. One double save at one point was superb. But Tottenham have got a lot of class in their team. Hailey Rasso opened the scoring, and they signed it from Brown Madrid. And it was a very, very well-taken goal with some good footwork. True Spence got another one. Jessica Naz scored. So big game players, and Alice really struggled with the quality of Spurs. The other player that came out with a bit of credit was actually vieden, who was Palace's Dutch left midfielder, another new signing, who offered a few things going forward. But other than that, Palace did struggle. I think Shay Ianez has got a potential shot possibly from three to one points, but I think it's maybe hard to give a keep of that in four goals points in that, but very promising debut from her. But other than that, a difficult opening check for Palace for me, and then at home to Chelsea at the weekend. Yeah, that's going to set it in easier. Yeah, it's raining. Yeah, raining champions at home. I mean, Spurs are better middling in terms of the prospects of this season. So it just kind of demonstrates what a difficult season is ahead for the women's team. But a lot of new times we talked about last week, it will take some time then to bed in. Some of them came in quite late, so I don't know even how many times they play together and other than I suspect not many, if any. But it doesn't get easier. And this is the issue with one of the women's Super League at the moment, and a gap between the women's Super League and the championship. It's such a challenge for any club to make that jump. And I'm sure the team will make a good fist of it this season. But yeah, I feared that might not be the only kind of four-nil dropping they get this season. But let's see over a couple of weeks. But yeah, it doesn't get easy with the reigning champions arriving this Friday. The only two players in the starting line up played last season, I think, which is Emily Everett, who's captain and a Bell Blancheard, who's number 10, who's obviously at the starting season. Other than that, everyone's new. They did show a bit of fight back when it was only one-nil a half time. But I think it's one of those games. And we've seen it with the men's team so many times where the quality opposition just sort of like just plays out. So it'll also be fitness. First game with that intensity. Spurs are very experienced this level. They've signed players from the continent. There's just a lot of acclimatizing to this league for that team. Even though it's a big turnover of players, it's going to take time for them to settle. It didn't help that Brooke Aspen was also sent off half an hour after coming on for her debut in injury time for kicking. It was one of those ones she got booked for a foul, tugged the player back. And then it looked like it looked soft. And so if you protested, turn right, keep the ball away. And the ref did that thing where they went one yellow, two yellow off, which is, which is, I guess technically correct, but brutal. Brutal in your first game in WSL, your debut for your new team. And you're already four-nil down. You'd think at that point, you'd just say, I'll give it the yellow, just calm down. Don't do that again, or learn from that. You'd like to think the ref might pretend they've not seen that. Yeah, brutal welcoming to the WSL, but I think the Chelsea games at Cellars Park on Friday night, I believe. Is that right? So you listen, the women's team are going to need loads of support. We saw last season that the support was excellent. And it did help. So get down there and support them because it's going to be a tough season. But I think they got some fight and spirit there. So real vibes of the Palace Men's team's first season in the Premier League, which we talked about last week with the opening game against Spurs. And we know how that played out. So it's not over yet. Let's get on to 3-2-1 then. Matt Smith, Henderson nailed for 3-2-1 points. Keith Dimond, D&O player of Blinder, no-one can deny him. Man of the match, 3-2-1, would all know it would be three points. Brett Steinman obviously earlier said the same thing. Joe, I'll let you do the honours. Do you want to take the low-hanging fruit? Do you know what? No. Just to give it some suspense, let's go somewhere else. Given my... This is 3-2-1, isn't it? The expectations really dictate where the points can go. And someone like Daniel Munoz, who has worked, been worked like a dog to no success, gets nothing. Meanwhile, somebody that's taken their time to impress, maybe looks a little bit more impressive on the pitch. And in that instance is why I'm... Basically, I want to give my point put forward. Sorry, Max, it's LaQuire. I felt... I felt the end of it. Wow, that was not expecting that. Wow. I mainly, for the second half performance, I don't think the first half was great. Half points. Yeah, but I guess this is just me keen to see him do well, because I think once that defence is comfortable again and is working and has sorted itself out, I think we're going to have some very good players back there. And the QPR appearance was a bit... I mean, he wasn't alone in it, but there was some extra touches, some hesitancy, some just blind, hopeful passes that didn't pay off. I thought once we kind of weathered the storm at that first half hour or so, or 45, and let's be honest, I thought some of his passing and distribution in that second half was very, very good. I've even realised sort of after the fact, I've seen statistically backs up as well. He's actually rivaling Joachim Anderson this season on successful long passes already in game. No, 3-2, not I've expected that. 3-2-1 is not the place for stats, my friend. This is a vibe only. It's true. I realise I need the shock on your faces, and I may be able to throw in some extra help. Some quantitative data. Yes, yeah. I guess he's sort of aesthetically less pleasing in the past than Anderson, because they're not aerial balls. A lot of kind of on the ground passing out wide to, well, in the second half, it was Kamada and Saad, him and Saad, a few exchanges, as did Munoz and La Croix, and then also we began to see the first real instances in a palisher of La Croix running at pace, recovering when someone's been sent through. I think it was Rashford. I think it was also maybe a Garnet show as well. I can't remember. But we really saw for the first time Maxis La Croix kind of get up to full speed and clear some stuff out of play. He can move about pretty quickly, and I look forward to seeing a little bit more of that. Somehow a clean sheet as well, giving that first half. That's him and Munoz weren't quite clicking in that first 20 minutes, especially. But after that, for the first time, starting to see why we would pay that much money, why Lesnar is such a fan. Separately, I think he might be our main aerial threat of corners for the rest of it, certainly moving forward. I mean, it's not quite, was it Gabriel, Arsenal, sort of classic John Terry, but he is very close to getting on the end of it, but almost everything that's going in that box, and he's quite a tall guy. So I wouldn't be surprised to see him grab three or four goals from set pieces this season, even our set pieces. I mean, I think Jack, I think this is the first sort of preemptive three to one points that I think Joe's predicting that, you know, off the back of his performance that there might be more to come. I don't hate it. I don't hate it. And that's the beauty of three to one, you know, that we get surprises. Do you know what? I struggled with his performance in the first, I alluded to it earlier. I thought he was not as tight to Mark Gay as he needed to be. And he may have suffered as a consequence Daniel moving on being, you know, as Joseph earlier, the only palace player on the right hand side of the pitch. But the performance of the second half, it did warn me. I think in terms of his recovery pace, we saw that. I think the defense were better as Ian. I thought Chris Richards had a much better second half. I'll come on to Mark Gay in a minute, spoiler. Because Jim, you can have the low hanging fruit this week, my friend, we always take it and you always end up trying to find Barbara the T lady from the third point or something like that. I also wasn't a player on my life. I got four players on my list. Well, okay. Well, I might change my mind, but I thought LaQuar, there was one moment where I thought, okay, and he played this lovely kind of inside foot pass into the middle of the pitch. And it was a pass that I did not see. And I thought, okay. I do have those. I had two loads of the game. And I thought, Blimey, it's quite difficult to do that when you're in stadium to pick up passes that no one, I mean, if I could see them, nobody could see them, I mean, honestly, my reading of the game. But it was very good to see. And I think he grew in confidence. We will naturally compare him to Joerke Mandeson because he's effectively replaced him. He's wearing the same number as Joer ended up wearing, albeit only for one competitive match. But yeah, it was positive to see him grow into the match because, you know, another character type would have suffered greatly at that first half an hour that he had because it was not great. So I think it is right that we call him out positively because he did grow into it. But I want to see it a bit more consistently. I want to see him part of that back for a unit. And if that involves us having to maybe adapt how we look at our right hand side, then so be it while he settles in. But he's got the physical assets. He's got the ability to see on the ball. We just need to see it all together in 90 minute phases. And I think any doubts that Palace fans have about him would be harsh given that he's only played three matches. Will quickly disappear. Yeah, I'm really excited to see who you're going to say for your chat. Well, I mean, for the sheer marketing purposes and view of the t-shirt, I hope you released soon. I was going to do Will Hughes. But I actually thought Mark Gay had a pretty good game. I thought he was, I thought he was very good. I thought that was possibly his best match of the season. But again, that vibes only. But I thought, yeah, I thought he was decent. And I think he's of the caliber that we sometimes do forget. So if I can't give him a nod in a nil nil, then he's probably going to end the season on very few points. I'll put Mark Gay for it. I thought he did well airily. I thought he was impressive against both Xerxes and Hoyland. I mean, it was a weird 10 minutes when they put Marcus Rashford centrally. And he was very disappointed for United. But yeah, physically Mark Gay didn't suffer against either of the two kind of more typical No. 9s, very quick across the ground as he often is. And yeah, I thought he had a pretty good game. So yeah, I'll put Mark Gay for it. I guess Joe after a nil nil, like actually, you do have to give credit to the defense. And so it's not outrageous to be named back into the back three. I have to, I think we're Mark. And he has such a slow start to the season. I think it is right to give him credit when he has better games. But again, he suffers from someone where the bar is so high that he doesn't have a good game. Here's an average game. And everyone's like, Oh my God, also by Mark. And then he has a great game. Everyone's like, Oh yeah, great. So actually, you know, and again, I don't hate that at all. But I have to admit it didn't jump out to me watching at home as particularly great performance. But I forgot you weren't. I mean, this is the classic in the ground on the sofa. I know this happens to me every time I watch a game from home. But I'm like, I did not see that. It is so interesting, the different perspectives and who are you to say? If the goalkeeper is the obvious one, who are your other shortlist? Well, I did have, I did have Will Hughes down. I think possibly part because of the branding, as you said. But again, I thought Will Hughes did. Okay. That outside of the boot pass across the penalty area was, yeah, yeah, you die for. Yeah. Again, I think he continues to just do the business as I'm going to call it one. I thought it's from Alyssa again. He's the one. He probably is the other one vying for a point. As you said, they're incredibly unlucky, not to not to I mean, that is an insane double save from from onana. That is why you have elite goalkeepers at elite clubs because that's mad. But again, again, the the chop back for the for the essay chance as well. Very, very good forward play. He continues. He's making, he's making right decisions. And I think one of the problems this season is a lot of our players making the wrong decisions in far away areas of the pitch, but he continues to keep making the right ones. And I think that's why he's having an impact on the game when he comes on. I thought in Katia again, had a good game and can continues to impress maybe not enough for points this week. But each game that passes with him, I'm encouraged by it. And I think he fits into the system well, and he's trying really hard. And I think he's trying to impress as a new player. And I think goals will come for him. Just on Eddy, though, just quickly before you take that low hanging fruit and please do it. I mean, if we don't do it. Oh, can you imagine? We've it's already, I think, been this might be the most three to one round of the season because we have we took an absolute hammering in that first half. We've by some sort of mysterious voodoo we've managed to get Nick a gold straw. And we picked the two set offs. But that is a measurement, I suppose, of for what you were saying about Margay J.D. is that I think because we've not had to worry for so long now, I think it's almost like a willingness to we're almost back to what we should be like, you know, there were the signs and then we're rewarding sort of a lower level than what we normally would for them. Generally, at the back, they're never one specifically Marco or La Croix. So yeah, maybe we've got both Jack and I have got a little bit carried away in that. But hey, that's the game. That's three to one. But just put on Eddy, who, again, I did I agree if you had an impactful game in ports, but I still don't think we're necessarily going to get the best out of him playing where he's playing. But that's for another day. When Saar came on though and Saar carried on or was put through the middle, that did surprise me. And I think that says more about the manager wanting to persist within Kettia as his starter at the 10 than Saar planning through the middle. But fortunately, Saar's performance through the middle didn't provoke any further questions. But I'm putting both of you were quite surprised to see that that Saar did go through the middle and then Kettia did stay where he'd been in the first half. Yes, but which is our version of yes and if you're doing improv. Saar's already showing this season that he can perform. And stretch there. Yeah, yeah. So it wasn't quite a complete curve ball. I think it actually makes sense. And this manager, the vibe I'm getting from him, Joe, is that he is someone that persists. He's persisting with Kamada in the position that I'm not sure it's best for him. He's persisting within Kettia at 10. So I think that is something we'll probably see more of this season than we expected to. Yeah, and perhaps also dictated by the scoreline. I think if we'd have been behind on the at the break when the changes were made or even by the time that and Kettia's hooked, for example, I do wonder if we'd have tried to chase the game with and Kettia as a two with Saar and/or, well, Mattetta's already off by that point. But we have only seen that very briefly this season. And I guess that was Lester at home when we were behind. So perhaps, perhaps Eddie is not really ever going to be considered bar injuries as the lone striker option. Perhaps he will only be deployed there as a two, which I'm not too mad about because he seems to be confident enough at the ball on the ball, sorry. And coming back to get it, I suppose with his abilities, maybe one of them a bit higher up the pitch more, but that will come. I keep saying, I keep saying words of that sort in the last couple of weeks on the puddle. This will be fine. Yeah, don't worry about that. We'll work that out. There was a point later on in the game, though, where it looked like Eze and Saar were playing two false nines, and it was like 2017 again, and Josh and Will fucked up again. And he won it, though. He won it, would nearly won it. And you know, that didn't work out too badly for it. That's it. Anyway, look, let's let's let's let's confirm these points. So I think before people start throwing their phones out the window, Henderson's got the three and that's that's been that's been in place since the start of the podcast. Laquan Gay, happy to give them the points. I think it's I think it's a nice opportunity to do so. How do you guys want to dish those ones out of two in the bomb? Let's give the new guy the two. Okay, like purely because you blindsided us, Joe. Like, I think we deserve you deserve the two points for like, yeah, exactly, for the boldness. As bold as lastness subs at half time. So I think, you know, it's bold is the vibe of the podcast. That puts Laquan joint with Munoz Klein, Mateta and Sauron too. Henderson goes out in front overtaking water and on six points, water on four. Gay, he then goes up to three joint with Encettia, a nice mix at the moment. That's, you know, I like it. That's the end of this week's part one. Thanks very much for listening. We're back later in the week with questions, answering your questions. So join us for that Thursday morning. But until then, enjoy the rest of your week and we'll see you again soon. Goodbye. [Music] This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network.
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