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Good, pod 181 sponsored by Vector Printing for all your printing embroidery needs, go to vector.co.uk and that's vector with them, and JCIS, the global research and brand consultancy from South London visit JC-IS.com. I will. Good. Congratulations. We've got the efforts out of the way and welcome this. And that's we've done that for the day. Yeah, see you later. Thank you very much. Well done. Your check will be in your post. It will be black. Check. This is your FA Cup final podcast, folks, and joining us, we've got some very special guests. But before I introduce them, I'm going to introduce our regular crew, which is Kevin Day. Hello. How are you? Oh, very well. Thank you. Excited. Of course. I've been bothered about this. I can't lie. Listen, we've discussed this before. I may have indicated around the third round that it's lost some of its glamour, but it is the biggest cup tournament in the world. I'm very, very excited, more excited than the man of my age should be. OK. We won't go into that. James Endocart. Hello. Very well, thank you. Yes. Goodening it. Stick around for the. Actually, stick around for the whole party. Oh, man. Unless he falls asleep, which is on his current. Yeah. I'm very happy. It's very happy. And that is true. Hello. And joining us, we have got two very special guests, both of them returning to the podcast. First up, it's Palace Corona, Steve Brower. Hello. How are you? I'm fine. I'm very, very happy and very excited. And joining him is a man who has also got a beard. I was going to try to think of a seamless length there where I couldn't. He's got a beard. So I went to the beard angle. Right. It's on the plate. Jesus Christ. Because he's the captain of the Palace Corona. I was going to get to that. That was the next year. The beard really comes across the podcast, isn't it? No. I don't want to give the viewers... I want to give the visuals. I want to give the visuals. Yeah, correct. Is that it? It is, of course, Palace Captain. Milage isn't that. Millet Hallard. Thanks. How are you feeling? He's so happy to be here. After that, he took an intro. I'm very excited. Very, very excited. To be on the pod, I want to be in the FA Cup one. But give the correct answer. Well done, Chancellor. One's a lion. One's true. OK. So it is an FA Cup final podcast. Yes. I mean, given where we were this season, Steve, at times, do we think we'd be here today? We're here today doing this podcast. I don't think you'd ever think you'd be in the FA Cup final. It's something that comes along so rarely, isn't it? I mean, I was saying to someone the other day that Crystal Palace fans who were born supported the team all their life, died of old age, and never saw Crystal Palace in the Cup final. We didn't get to until 1990 having been formed. What is it? 105. 105. Take away from 85 years earlier. And, you know, I'm fortunate to have been to the 90 Cup final, but did I think I'd ever see Palace in the Cup final again? I don't know. It's just fantastic. And it says it is the greatest football cup competition in the world. The history is incredible. It goes... And we did it the hard way as well. Oh, yeah. Much harder than the 90 team. Absolutely. Yeah, it was apart from Reading, it was all Premier League teams, and Reading away wasn't an easy match, but I need consideration. It is strange how it was initially a distraction from a slightly iffy second part of the season, but then as each game went on, you start to dream. And the fact is, no matter how cynical you get about the FA Cup and the way it's been treated, it's the FA Cup, and it's just a wear in it. I don't think Man United fans quite realise what they're in for in terms of the support that Palace will have on. Sadly, because the only consolation I take, I've said this before, is that if we do lose, which I don't think we will, is it will be the first time that the losing fans out sing the winning fans when they lift the FA Cup. Because Palace fans won't leave like the wheels does, and we'll be there at the end. And I can't wait to see the start of the semi-final when you walk in and see the red and blue stripes at the end. I think it's a real psychological boost for the team, I mean, me they will tell you if it was, but that's what's going to happen on Saturday. And for United to take these things very casually, it's not a big day out for them. It's just another, they assume it's their right to be in the FA Cup final. The more Paul's goals talks about just winning the FA Cup won't be enough for the Louis Van Gogh, the more I like it. Because every single player, it's great, I hope they keep doing it, because none of us will take it for granted. We all think we've got every chance of winning it, but the occasion is going to be fantastic. It's just genuinely exciting, we're in the FA Cup final. Well, we're all excited, but what's it like as a player? I mean, is it difficult to contain that excitement? Do you focus on just one more game, or do you really play on that kind of a little bit? Well, I think now that we got yesterday out of the way, you know, the way it did, it's time to get excited. You have to be, you know, you've seen today, we had a huge media day. We got out of the way today, and there was cameras lined up in every room and whatnot, but it just goes to show what a big deal it is. You know, touching on Kevin's point there, regarding what's it like for someone to walk out at Wembley with and seeing a whole sea of red and blue. I mean, having had the privilege and the opportunity to do it twice, it's probably beyond words. I probably won't do it justice, because both times on those occasions, we were the best supported team by far. And we walked out, didn't we, really? And you know, and then knowing that going there again on Saturday is, you know, gives you a lot of heart going through that. When you decided to, but when you grew up as a kid, like we all did, did you watch the upcoming final every year? Do you watch it just thing one day? Not probably as religiously of what it is here. We did get it. So I said it many times today, it was one of the few games that they did get live, and the build up was phenomenal. It was always big, you know, and the games, I remember a few of them, but it was always, you know, we got to stay up this weekend, it's the FA card. You stay up past midnight and things like that, but always very prestigious, but just remembering what it was like and seeing, you know, not even so much the games as they were, it was more, you know, the fans. The whole thing around it, the walk up the stairs and, you know, lifting the trophy and seeing how much happiness it bought to people, and the crowds, and you can't help it. I mean, you've been to when they've got so to interrupt, but you've been to when they've come to times, but it's like, it's never got final now. It's something special about it, isn't it? I mean, for us as fans, it's more than, it's only final, more than, so the playoff, this is something- Is it more than a playoff final? It was pretty special. It was actually, it was pretty special. No, but this is the FA Cup final, Steve. Yeah, I think we're from your point there, it's, you know, it's, I think that comes down to the history of the FA Cup. You know, it's, we all know our prestigious cities, you know, worldwide, you know, for one second, if you, if you ask me what's more important, the FA Cup, I'll still say the championship playoff final. No, okay. Because that, for me, you know, was a day that I'll never forget, and it was just incredible. Will it be replicated on Saturday? I didn't change the fortunes of Crystal Palace Football Club completely, whereas this is, this is one game, which will be brilliant. No, no, it's not any, it's not any less, it's not any less significant from that, because as a, as a player and as a, as a fan, you want to go into these competitions. You want to, when you get there, you want to win. These special days, you want to go and win. Of course, yeah. And that feeling, you know, if it does happen on Saturday, it would be, we're all going to be on top of the world. Let's, let's not kid ourselves, we're all going to be on top of the world and, and so, so it should be. I will pay you a beer. You might as well win. That's fine. Because it isn't quite as significant. I'm not nervous about this game at all, before the championship playoff. And the semi-final was petrified, because it doesn't have, it's already a bonus in the way. We're in the final, the greatest cup tournament in the world, but it hasn't got that. Our future doesn't depend on it in a way that, the championship, the championship playoff final did. So anything that happens is a, is a bonus. So I don't, I was terrified before the semi-final of this as well, but now we're in the final. It just feels. And fans, fans of our age, the 1990 final that we actually lost. It's still one of the greatest days of our life, and we remember it. It was amazing. The survey, yeah. We don't remember that at all, but, but just imagine if we won. Oh. Because for me, that was one of the great days, and if, if we win it, it's just another level. Well, also, it was one of the great FA Cup Finals as well. Yeah, it was, it was a great game. You'd still rather win, you'd have won one in the rubbish game, and you'd bet. It was a great game. I think I still have the kind of specialness for one to the real world. To the fans and to players. Does it feel like they've been lost over, off years? I don't. I think a lot of my friends, you've talked to Arsenal, Chelsea, Man U, Man City fans. It probably doesn't, because they get into the final, or they get to Wembley on such a regular basis. It probably has lost a bit of that, but to everybody else, of course it has. I mean, one of my best mates is a Villa fan. He's still talking about the final last year, even though they much. Of course, to most of us, it's an astonishing game to be involved, because it's the most famous game in the world. You know, every single country will be watching television pictures of our club at Wembley. And that's why, that's why, in a way, as I say, I'm less nervous. The fact that we're there is, is brilliant, but we're not there to make up the numbers. We've got every, you know, we've got a really good chance of winning the game. That was a good point, but every club is the playoff final to us, as Palace fans, was just massive. Yeah. And as I say, it changed the fortune of the club, and it took us up to another level. But it only really was of interest to us, wasn't it? You know, it wasn't, I don't think the rest of the world was watching. Yeah. But this game is, you know, it's everywhere. Mila, do you use, you know, it took about visualisation. Do you use that sort of technique? Do you imagine lifting the FA Cup up, or was it, or do you kind of feel that that puts a little jinx on it? Do you try not to? No, I never think about jinxing, but... Well, you go through your routines. I mean, I've been in situations, very similar. It's hard to get too caught up about what's going to happen in the future. You like to make sure you're doing all the right things in the now, in the present. You know, the next couple of days, good training. You know, we will start doing more on them, and how we're going to nullify that. And you can have a little dream. There's nothing wrong with that. You know, get you in the right frame of mind, and you know, at the end of the day, it's going to be a... These finals, they always, anyone can win on the day. And having an experience in finals in the past, and being on both sides of it, you know, I've learnt that you don't want to lose a game like this. Did you experience, because you're experiencing big international games? Is there any comparison between this and representing your country in front of... Well, I was just playing a picture for you, so this is going to be a huge game for myself. Personally, the football club, you know, fans are alike. So in last year, in January, when we won the Asian Cup, that was at home. That was in front of... That was in Sydney, my hometown. I had about 80 people there that were family and friends. So it's probably as big as, like, for myself as it came at that point in time. But this is my home away from home. And it's, again, you know, you're giving the opportunity and the privilege to go and do something special for a football club where you've experienced, you know, a lot of great things. And to be given the opportunity to try and potentially add one more piece to that puzzle is, yeah, it gets you really, really excited. How do you keep those kind of emotions in check, up to leading up to the game the day itself? I think, for me personally, it's just, you've got to just stay focused as hard as it sounds and maybe as cliches as it sounds. It's, people do things, they might tell you other things, but, you know, yeah, you take all the atmosphere in. Absolutely, you do that, you know, when you get out there and whatnot. But you're going to have a game plan and you've got to stay, you've got to try and stay cool, as cool as possible. And not get, as mad as it sounds, you know, I remember the semi quite well and I did hear the roar at the start of the game, but after that, apart from when we scored, for me, it was almost quiet and it was like, well, I'm in the zone here. I've got to just try and block it out as, you know, there's comes a point in the game where it might be a little bit more difficult to block it out, but you have to do your utmost and, you know, call on all your experience and understanding of these sort of situations to use it in the big stage. And it's nice to know that, you know, I've done that in the past and I've got teammates out of experience as well, which is also very, you know, very nice. But if you need to relax from about 12 o'clock in the Greek man, there's probably quite a few points back in there, you've got to narrow it in there, lady, you've relaxed there. Well, that would be great. I suppose it's a good thing, isn't it, that we had the semi-final at Wembley, because people go on about how it spoils the FA Cup, having the semi-finals, but Manuel and I have got a team of players who've obviously played more games. They've all played at Wembley before, haven't they? But for us, it's probably it was a good rehearsal, if you like, to have played the game at Wembley in the full stadium and had that. So it's not, you know, I don't think the Palace players are going to be rabbits in the headlights because... Yeah, record at Wembley is very good as well, isn't it, recently? We've got a core group in the team at the moment, including yourself, Millet, Damian, and Will Yannick, who've, you know, it's the third time at Wembley, with Palace, won't it? - It's all award, isn't it? - It's a few, yeah. Exactly, yeah. Although Yannick didn't play in the playoff final, isn't that amazing? He was on the bench, wasn't he? Yeah, incredible. Which is weird when you think about that now. How he's come on from being a guy who wasn't good enough to play. So just about every bit of coverage that you see written about the final mention is 1990. How much has that been, sort of, drummed into the player by Alan so far as it's something that just goes out of mention, something that he likes to bring you back to all the time? It's been mentioned, I don't think it'll get mentioned. Are you sick of it? No, no, no, no. It's not that I'm sick of it. I think, yeah, look, we definitely touched on it in the build-up. Yeah. But I think, as of this week, I think it'll be the sole focus will be on us. You know, the manager will probably use his experiences and maybe share some of them, but, yeah, he said it quite sharpishly today that he wants the sole focus. It's, you know, it is, I know you guys remember it like it was yesterday, but it was, you know, it's 26 years on and both clubs are in a different point in their time and are looking to, both are looking to, particularly outside are looking to create some history. Yeah. I mean, everyone talks about the size of the picture we're looking at. And it looked in the 75 a lot, we used the picture really well, but does it, is it? No, it's really, any bigger? No, it's probably looks bigger because there's so many more seats around there. Yeah. Used to, but I think it's probably on par with sole focus to be honest. No, it's just, it's just, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why it's not. I think if, if, if anything, yeah, it probably may or may not like it, but old traffic's probably bigger than Wembley. Right. Yeah. And size is a little bigger. So it felt that way anyway. I don't know. Old traffic just looks bigger when it's empty because somebody's left fake bombing it. That's basically, that's. Oh God, yeah. Well, it's full. Well, they've still got to pay their, they'll pay their last game tomorrow night. Can you just see what team? Yeah. I mean, they can't just, they can't just touch you. Normally these pods, we often talk about the previous game and what happened. But obviously, you know, you and Stevie, you know, the cup final coming up. But, just touched on yesterday's game, which I was there. Erm, Balassi and Wilf also weren't playing yesterday. And erm, they're a real, real strength for us. You know, the real strength that you go. And it's like, only dollars a week. So using that width that we talk about, sell out at some Wembley. Do you think that's going to be something that we're going to use to our franchise? That's something that we made you miss a little bit yesterday. You know, I don't want to go too much by yesterday because it was whatever. But I think that's something that I think, you know. No, it's a fair point. You make a fair point. I'm not going to just, you know, you guys have got to play in and use to do what you do. But it's touching on yesterday. More than comfortable talking about it. I know it's over too. It's not, it's not the ideal result. I didn't think the performance was that bad. I didn't think it was all. I didn't think it was fine. I thought it was the score line for the number. I was really fine. You're right. You're right, you're right. I think, but when you've had two guys in such form as what they had. Exactly. And we all know what sort of threat that they've been. Exactly. It's a massive part of our game. It's been a massive part of our game and our identity for the last. Yeah, that's what I mean. Almost for as long as I've been at these football clubs. Yeah. So, you know, to say we're going to try and use that on Saturday. Of course we are. And Wolf has been instrumental in the run itself up to the final. Yeah. We're at Palace of Beaten like Todola Kevin. Some fantastic teams. What's his impact been like on the team? Because he picked up player of the year as well. He seemed to really sort of stepped up with Yannick without the injury. And Wolf feels like, for the stands, like it's become one of our main traffic threats. Yeah, he's always had that, you know, like it or not, maybe directly or indirectly. But he's had that sort of responsibility put on him. But one thing I do know and probably all know about Wolf really is he never shines away from it. You know, even if he has a bad game where he comes out of the team, he'd be the first to, when he does get another opportunity to take that. And it's been great. Like I said, I've, you know, I've had the, you know, the pleasure of playing with him for a number of seasons now. And to see him grow, not only on the pitch, but off the pitch and see what he's like. And see him, you know, essentially come grow up from being a boy to a man. It's been, you know, it's something that, you know, it's really, really bring me a lot of happiness. And like I said, we all know these sort of stages and what he can deliver. And I have no doubt that him, Janik, and everyone else who ever called upon Saturday night, on Saturday afternoon will be, will be prepared, focused and hopefully delivering the performance of their lives. Well, Wolf seems to react better now to being physically assaulted like he's in some games. He bounces back and gets all of it. Whereas a couple of seasons are going to be tended to maybe soak a little bit. But I think we've talked about this on the pod that it helps with your around on the pitch because you're always the first one to go over and talk to the ref or talk to the players. You look like you're protecting him. Yeah, it's, you know, when I haven't been there, it's been, you know, Damo's done a great job at doing that as well. But I think it's, for me, it's important to know who I'm playing with. And, you know, I know Wolf's temperament and what he's like and things are going to wind you up in. And same with other players, but, you know, there comes a point in time where you can only argue so much with the ref, with yourself. You just, you know, sometimes someone needs to go and tell them to, someone needs to be told a little bit more sternly. The other one, can you get your arm around them? But it's always meant to have the same sort of impact and that's all about understanding what players are around you and, you know, how you can get the best sort of response from them in that moment. But as hard as it is sometimes, you know, everyone's boy is full of emotion, seeing red sometimes with getting hacked down and, you know, a little niggle here and there, but, you know, someone's got to take responsibility for it. And a lot of the time it's the captain on the pitch or some of the other senior players and, you know, I do it because I do, I can do it and I know I can do it and, you know, that's, I'm happy to, I'm happy to do that. Like it's something that no one has to tell me to do it, I'll go and do it on my own, but, as long as you lose, as long as you lose. You love to, you love to. I'm not getting myself in any trouble, it's, you know, you have to help your teammates out in every wheelchair and that's one of the ways. I mean, as leader of the group, as captain, what's it like, what are they like as a group to lead? I mean, as a group who had a couple of years, he played a lot of them and an easy group to be in control of or you have to kind of step up the lines sometimes. Look, Sony, you know, as a player and, you know, as one of a, as a fellow teammate, there's certain expectations of you and what you, what you're required to do, obviously that's set in place by the manager and his expectations and stuff as well. But, you know, if you feel the need, that something has to be said to somebody, or be it, you know, to tell them to wake up or kick up the backside, then it needs to be said. Otherwise, you find yourself in a situation where you let things slide and standards tend to drop. So, you know, we've been lucky to have a, like I said, a core group and real togetherness, not only this season, but, you know, you can talk about going back to that playoff game and that playoff year and, you know, togetherness is essentially what got us promoted to the Premier League and the Unity, not only from, not only from the players and the playing staff and the management, but, you know, supporters and the owners and everyone associated with the club and, you know, having that still around is a big part. And I think something that we all, Steve, and I know I can take a lot of pride from because, you know, it means an awful lot to see that the club is still doing those sort of things. One of the themes of the pod this season has been how difficult it is to define what a leader is, define what leadership takes, but we would agree that whatever it is you've got it. You know what I mean, it's hard, it's such an intangible thing, but do you as a player know what it is that makes you a natural leader because you clearly are to the others on the pitch. Look, it's, you know, it's people talk about, you know, what, I always come back to how I was brought up, what values I was taught as a kid, how my parents were with me, you know, at all the siblings and all the around all the people, it's more importantly setting my own standards and trying to always set an example whether I'd be the youngest guy in a group or the oldest guy. It's just trying to set an example, you know, not always be the most fleshiest player, but try and be consistent then. Do you want to take that over into management one day? I'm not done playing it. It gives a great story to you. I don't know if you can find this. Look, it's a fair question. I've had a few times. I didn't know it today though, which was nice not to hear. It's late now, Jim. Look, it's something I haven't thought too much about, but yeah, why not? Like, I mean, you know, why not if I decide to go down that path? Or I think having the experience as I'm doing now playing and you can definitely use that going forward for sure. Does the beard help with being authoritarian? You'd have to ask, you'd have to ask my teammates and maybe opposition. Maybe we'll ask Joe about it. It doesn't work with my two little ones. That's for sure. It's a laugh at me. You know, it's one story. In terms of psychology as well, there's a lot of palace fans who talk about this. Just the fact that we've got the home kit helping anyway at all. I don't really, I haven't really thought about it, but I don't see why not, because, you know, everyone's... Because everyone, all of our fans will be in red and blue. Yeah, I don't know if it helps us, but for me, Matt is denied it at these red shirts, isn't it? Yeah. So then being anemic or whatever the word is, you know, them not being in their red shirts does feel like a slight victory. We've got the upper hand. Well, it did, because they're not the red devils, they're the sort of white devil. Well, it gave us these things. And that's saying no one wants. But it did give us a lot of fans a little boost though, because a lot of fans assumed... Well, a lot of fans didn't know there was a toss. They assumed that the so-called Bigger Club chose, but when we won the toss, it was a little filip. It was like, okay, it was a little victory, that's fine. So it was a psychological help for us. It's nice when you, you know, nothing better when you see the sea of red and blue and you're coming out wearing a kit. If we dust the toss and played in white, then some fans would have worn the white shirt. It would have been a sea of red and blue and a bit of white. So I think it's good that the wall of red and blue will be a hundred percent. Absolutely, yeah. But also, I mean, in terms of superstition, we were in this centre of the Cloud Final. Yeah, we were in the other end of the semi. There's not no need to be in one particular end for, you know, your superstition, for example. I don't think there were mentioned ends, but, you know, that's why. You're obsessed with ends, for some reason. You're always being around to ends, I don't know why. Since you moved to Cheshire, it's just all ends end, yeah. But no, you're right, because it's just, that's a corollary. The fact that we played it Wembley a few times, and it is kind of nice that we've won a different ends. But the kit thing is very important, I think. It just gave us a little psychological boost. Yeah. But not really the plan. I don't tell them about the player, though. You know, I'm thinking a bit, obviously I'm more than happy to be playing in a home kit, but if we had to play in the white kit and the away kit, then we would have done it, and hopefully the same outcome. And took it to pods, the, when we lost the replay of the 90 cut final, because we did lose it. I know we don't remember those. We did. I don't think the players liked that yellow and black. The fans didn't. So the kit was relevant then. That was weird, because that was a one off. Yeah. That was a kit made for one game. I don't know, it happened. How did they make it out? Do you think you have to play this? Well, everyone was played with Steve Coppleblain. Obviously, if it was Jeff, Tom was played with Steve. If we did one of the replay, that kit would have maybe carried it. It would have been iconic, wouldn't it? It would have been a great excuse. I think it was a Rod Nodes gamble that we were doing. But it's definitely odd in a massive game. Oh, yeah. To have a brand new kit knowing no one's ever played. You think, just psychologically, you need to know your teammates have had that. Well, it's like when you go and meet your girlfriend or your wife, you're out there eating. Or both. And she's wearing a wig. Yeah. It's different. It's the same person as I got. It happens to me. Yeah, I'm a favorite. I think maybe she's trying to run away from me. I don't know. Or disguise herself. Or disguise herself. She probably feels the same way about your ginger wig. It's not ginger. It's Viking gold. I don't know about it. I've got a Viking gold there. You go there. Okay. I think that's a good part. In part one. Yeah, when we start. I'm crossing down to a terrible level. When we start bickering, it's always a good time. In part two, we got questions from our listeners for Steve and Miele and some of us as well. I think for me. Okay. And so, join us after the break. Great. It's time to get your checking account to zero with three checking from Penfen. That's zero ATM fees, zero balance requirements, and zero time spent waiting for your paycheck to direct deposit. Because you can receive it up to two days early. Open your account with just $25 and see how big zero can be. Apply online today at penfed.org/freechecking. Early direct deposit eligibility may vary between pay periods and timing of payers funding. To receive any advertised product, you must become a member of penfed, insured by NCUA. Hello, and welcome back to the five-year plan FA Cup final podcast. Sponsored by Vector printing for all your printing embroidery needs go to vector.co.uk and that's Vector Wither. Okay. Correct. And JCIS, the Global Research and Brank and so on, see from South London. Visit JC-IS.com. I will. Oh, very nice. 60 radio voice. Oh, he's growling it in. Okay. Right. Part two is always question time, and a lot of questions for Miele and Steve. A lot of them were themed around the beard. Thank you. Which one? Fortunately Steve, Miele. There you go, Steve. There you go. I thought I'd just get them out of the way, get the beard ones out of the way. The first one was from Karl Mortimer. I called Karl. He said, "Can you ask Miele who copied who with the beard? Did he copy Joe or vice versa?" No, either, I think. I think we just grew it up. You can win some different times there and literally coincidental. I shaved one. I had it, and then I shaved it, because I had to get a new visa to stay there. So I shaved it. And then I grew back over once I got back from the Asian Cup. It sort of grew back, and then I've kept it since. But Joe, yeah, he's got some nice growth there. That's for sure. Who were your plans for it? Keep it. Yeah, keep it for now. Why not? I haven't been told to shave it by my other half. So I'll keep it for now, even though my kids are on me all the time. No, we don't want you with the beard, but it's staying for now. So the next question is from Matt Phillip Harris. Hi, Matt. It says, "Gedi, if you knew shaving the beard off would guarantee us winning the FA Cup." Why do you do it? Yes. If it meant guaranteeing the FA Cup, then of course I'd do it. It's a silly question. It's not the... We know you want to know that's not it. So let's hope the beard stays, and we get the FA Cup. If you could fill the FA Cup with beard. Shave it off into the FA Cup. You can't do that because I've got a problem with that. Because if we win the FA Cup, I'm putting some very expensive wine in it. Really? I don't want to eat beard hair. Which one's that? We'll drink it though. Rose on Sadler. Chateau Rose on Sadler 1990. Oh, wow. I have a contractual obligation with Mr Delaney that there'll be some 1990s in the FA Cup. OK, Steve, we have actually had a question about your beard. Ah! Well, that's the first. Are you ready first? Yes. It's from Ben Allen. Hello, Ben. Hello. Ben. Dad. Dad, can you show me off, please? He wants to sort of know what was behind it. And his question is, with extra time on his hands, has Steve been... ...be grown his beard to take on work as a Brian Blessed impersonator? Gordon's alive! I haven't got the D voice for that. Where's the extra time on my hands? What's this extra time? I don't know. Maybe on Sadler? Yeah. No, it's just that I'm getting old and sort of covering up my chins and things like that. It looks lovely. Well, the thing is, if you uncover your chins, you get called Roger Millie by Caboza the football club. You did look like Roger Millie. It's never in trouble. The players, what is it? The player of the year? The player of the year. It was a really dodgy photographer. Kevin, who is on the pod who you... ...if you look on the online and see pictures of him, you look a little bit like Roger Millie? One photo, please. One photo. Yeah, he's defensive, isn't he? Great job. Roger Millie, right, and his complaint about that. Next question is from Rob Morgan, I think. Hi, Rob. Hi, Rob. It's at Millie. What's the difference in pretty much preparation between League and Cup? If any. No, there is none. No, it sounds weird. I've got to ask the question today about contrasting form, cup and league. It's been hard to put your finger on exactly how wide it's been so contrasting, but in terms of preparation and the way we went into every game was always the same, maybe knowing that it was a cup game and not three points. I think it might have had something to do with it, but as far as individual preparation and team preparations, it's been pretty much the same way, and I don't think it'll change this week, that's for sure. With the 14 game winless run that we went on, was there any concern? That's not right, I think that's not right. Was there any concern? No, no, no. Was there kind of a thinking that it'll turn around somehow? I think anyone who knows, I don't know, what did you, what did you, I would love to hear what you guys thought at this during this time. Well initially, we thought it was quite funny, to be honest, because it was came out of the blue, but the problem was, the odd thing was that apart from I think Villa away, maybe Bork, there was never a game that you thought we'd played badly. Even the Liverpool game for the first hour, we were a better team, so it just seemed... We did have a lot of bad luck. No, we didn't. He didn't talk about bad luck, but... No, we did, we'd play as out, but with refereeing decisions and all sorts of stuff, but... It never felt like we were on a bad run, we, you know. Well, because we had those cup games included, I mean everyone talks about that bad run, but I don't see why you have to take out the FAKE UP games. No, no, no, no, it's Crystal Ballot, it's playing big teams. You know, why are those games not counted? Well even the Tottenham game, we weaker the scores, three or four, in the home game against Tottenham, we hit the bar twice, we were on the front foot the whole way through it. Liverpool, that penalty at the end was just... For the first hour, yeah, for the first hour, we were much the better team, it's just... You can see the confidence wasn't as high as it would have been maybe, but... Of course you do get concerned, because the league team doesn't lie, but it wasn't like... We were never Villa, it was never catastrophic, because we were playing well... There was never any lack of commitment or energy or enthusiasm. It was quite clear they were still playing for the manager, but... I thought Villa Hawaii was the only game that... Yeah, that didn't go well today. I didn't claim it, back then. Oh, that's a perfect answer! I still take responsibility for it, obviously not. No, in all honesty, I think, coming back to the question, I think... I really do think that anyone that sort of knows us as a group and knows... Or everyone touched on it about not being overly concerned. And we as a playing group, I never once thought that we're not going to not win again. We're not going to get out of this right. Knowing me, knowing who I've got around me in the changing room, and how hard we were working to try and fix it... You just knew it was going to turn. Did we want it to go on for 14 games? No one ever wants to go on and run like that. You know, especially after putting ourselves in such a good position in the halfway mark. But you always knew that we'd have enough and enough strong characters and belief to just... It may have not been the prettiest, but we would, you know... I'll say it, and I'll say it as the way it was. You grind your way and you grind out victories and you grind out results, whether they be draws to stop the rock. You know, it took people understanding that and rolling their sleeves up and doing that on countless occasions. Coming up short, but then going again and doing it the next week and psychologically, I don't know, maybe some of the... Maybe people were feeling a bit down, but I was always one, and I know a lot of other guys with me in that changing room. And most of us were like, "Well, the only ones who are going to make it right is what we do, and we need to stay positive." There's nothing to... We shouldn't be... The alarm bell shouldn't be ringing. We've been... I don't think we've been on a 14 game run, but we've been in some bad positions before in the league. Maybe having the first half of the season behind us and knowing that, obviously the expectations changed. But having the first half of the season and doing so well and having a little blip along the way, you knew we'd be all right, because we'd done it before. I think if it were the other way around, then it's a little bit different, like we had done in the past few seasons. So, you know, it was nothing that I hadn't seen before being involved with the football club, but again, nothing that anybody shied away from during that time. I think that's why the punch's reaction, the other players' reaction to his goal at Norwich against Norwich, was so important, because there was never any doubt. Every single Palace fan realised that it meant as much to the players as it did to the fans. It wasn't just a job for you, that you were aware of what had gone on. There was that big release of emotion for the players. I ran the other way, because I tend to say my energy and go the other way, but it was lovely. Like again, it was nice to see that, obviously seeing all the footage and stuff after, but even just in that game, obviously it was a tense day, and we all knew it was a tense day, and it was going to be like that. But, you know, everyone sort of keep them emotions in check. We're playing at home, we're playing at home. That's part of your job, though, to feed your emotions. You have to, you have to. You've got to see it. You are a leading matter, you're the leader. You've got to keep your emotions. You've got to see the game through. We got one meal up. I can't remember when we scored it. It was at the 70th in it all, a little bit earlier. No, I know. We were 60, 60, 60. That's what we're holding over there. So, there's still a lot of football to be played. I mean, the fact is that we're emotional as fans. Oh, yeah. Players are involved. But that's one of the reasons why you have got to be there, people. Yeah, but it doesn't mean that I wasn't celebrating. No, no, no, no, no. It's like, it's, I remember saying... I'm not saying that. It's good that you have that thing where you have that thing. Yeah, and you get that from experience, though. And I remember, you know, I remember an other incident where going back to the playoff final, and, you know, the moment when we should be all celebrating, I don't care if Phillip scores that goal, it's stupid. I don't even stupid back on the tapes. I remember everyone celebrating, and I'm there barking out. Listen, we've got to see this out. I don't care what we have to see this out. It's the way it goes. But that's natural to you, isn't it? Well, that's something that... It's something that Kev talked about earlier on. And I think it was natural to you. Because, you know, you know, with your own experiences that, you know, when you've had such a big high and such a let out of emotion, you're more vulnerable the next few minutes. And it happens countless times throughout the season, but, you know, it's they always say, and you learn from people, is that when you do get such a big high release of emotion, you've got to try and not curb it or stammer. It's using it in the right way for the next little period. Concentrate, concentrate. But, concentration is... It's key. Keep on the job. Keep on the job, obviously. It's not what we shout at you. It's not what we just say use. We're on hearing all of you. Look, you know what we will do? I'm sure you'll shout at each other. And it was... To be fair, we shout at James on the call. Yeah, most quite a lot. I'm just trying to... What's happening? Well, I was just thinking, when we were talking about the run from the start of the scene there, and obviously it's been a crazy scene with Lester winning the title as well, kind of blowing that wide open. We're blessed to success. Has that kind of made you, as a player, or the group of the players think, "Well, hang on a minute. "Blessed can do. "Why can't we?" Yeah, obviously you've got to take heart from that. I think everybody in the country takes heart from what Lester's done. I think you guys, as big palace fans, will take heart from that. You know, people saying it's the year of the underdog in that. Why not use that as something like that as motivation? And, you know, it's been a funny old league this year, and literally, apart from them, who, by far, you know, the result was the best team. It was near enough anyone could beat anyone on any given day. And that's why, over here, it's the most celebrated league, and people love, and the audience is such so big globally and rightly so. And, you know, you will use that, I think, of course, on Fosado's game, which is, again, a one-off. As fans, we sometimes struggle to separate out the performances from the results. We'll sometimes get to the end of match, which takes very badly, but of what, and how do you focus on the fact that it's a wonder? How do you, on a Monday, when you go back into the training grounds, know that the performance has been great, but the result hasn't quite gone the way that you wanted. How do you focus on just focusing on those? Yeah, I think, you know, when you play, when you play so many games throughout the year, you're never going to, not every week, you're going to have the perfect game, any individual, or as a team. So, it's always important to highlight your positives. But it's also important to, you know, work on what didn't go so well, and, you know, being able to take psychologically the criticisms and come back and back it up again, and pick yourself up, dust yourself off and go again, and try and put in another top performance, and if it doesn't go well again, then try again if you get given the opportunity. And that's the way I've treated not only this season, but, you know, throughout your football career, because, you know, it can be taken away from you at any point. So, it can be difficult, some players react and respond in different ways, and some like the adversity, some not so much, but, you know, we're here as a team and we're here to help each other and pull each other through us sometimes as well. And I think this season, you know, we've had that as well, and it should be a credit to us as a group for helping each other so much and getting each other over the line in the end. OK, the next question is for Steve. It's from John Dodds. - Hi, John. - Hi, John Zee. - Good old Dodds. - Yeah. He says, "How different does it feel to be at Wembley as an owner and supporter rather than just one of the Red and Blue Army?" Oh, not much. I mean, I'm going in the away end. I'm not going in the rule box. - In your way, I'm going to go in the way end. - In your way, I'm going to go in the way end. - The pally said, "Yeah, yeah, it's not in the away game, is it?" I get thinking it's in the way again. No, I'd like to think I've always had my fan hat on more than I've had my owner hat on. And it's much better being with a fan. I mean, people think, "Oh, you're lucky going in the director's box, but you're not. You have to put a tie on. You have to behave yourself. You can't have all your mates and all your kids with you, because they're not allowed enough tickets." So I'm definitely -- I'm going as a fan. And I mean, obviously, we talked earlier about the playoff. As an owner, that was massive, because financially, that meant that the four of us weren't personally putting in money every year. So it was huge, whereas this doesn't matter financially so much. But as a fan, this is one of the biggest days of my life. And I want to be there with my kids and my mates. - And you and me? - And I will be, and I'll be enjoying it as a fan, definitely. You must be proud, though, that people identify you with the club so much, aren't you? - Yeah, I thought I'm proud of all four of us. You know, all four of us came along when the club was definitely getting kind of bust. And that's something that I'm sure all four of us will be proud of forever, that we helped to save the club. But I always say that if other Palace fans had the financial where with all that, they'd have done the same thing, just we were able to do it. - Well, we are saving up the money as a pod, too. - Yeah, we do. - We've got two sponsors these days. - If you vector up the money a little bit, we will be trying to buy you out. - We will be renegotiating. - I'll give you Josh and David's number. - Next question is from Jerry Murphy's Fringe. - Oh, oh. - My favourite player, my favourite Fringe. You may not know about Jerry Murphy, but he's... Underestimated by some of the Palace fans. He's my favourite player from the '80s. - Okay. - We were crapping the '80s. - He was single-handedly the laziest player I've ever seen. But when he wasn't being lazy, he was just the perfect. He never moved to the sort of ten-year-old centre circle bit, but he was the best part. He was the best pass with the ball on Palace. He was just... And he was the proper mod for engine. He was looking up, googling. - Oh, he was like... - So I'll ask question first. - Will you do this? - That's the question. - What else are the questions? - I'll ask it. By the way, I'll ask it in a slightly less loaded way. Some people think they're out of tin captain is old-fashioned. What do you think me like? Or to put it aside, what does being captain mean? - Good question. - Have you played in a team when you weren't the captain? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Many a time. - Were you the captain of... No, when you came to Palace, you weren't captain straight away. - No, I was waiting. - It was badly. But I think... And, you know, it's... The role of being a leader or the role of... Being in a leadership role within a group of people. You know what that entails and what you're going to need to do. Obviously, you know, my roles within the Palace group and how I've been captain here and my role within and how I've captain at the national team. Slightly, they vary slightly. Obviously, you don't have so many nationalities and stuff and you go play the national team. So it becomes a little bit more trickier. But I think one of the... The best things I can say is that I've had the... And I have the respect of all of my teammates. And I've got the respect not because I've asked for it, but I've earned it through... - Yeah. - The way I conduct myself, you know, on that training round. And, you know, on that pitch, on a Saturday, you know, even giving that opportunity. And, you know, and I think all the boys will know that when push comes to shove, that I'll be there backing and no matter what, you know, whether it be as a captain or a fellow teammate, it doesn't really matter. - You know, captain of club team, captain of your national team. It doesn't get much better, does it? I mean, come on. - No, it doesn't get much better than that, man. - You are right. - It gets you a club of captain of your team. - You are right. - It's amazing. - It's amazing. - Come on, man. It's... - I'm proud of you. - Yeah, I'm absolutely honored to have both of us. - Yeah, you know, it's a big deal. - Give me five for that one. - It's a big deal. I don't definitely don't take it lightly, but I know it's a big deal, and it will probably be even a bigger deal when sat there comes around. - Okay, the next question is from Peter Hostakny. - I'd like to open it. - He's done. - He says, "Mile is a great penalty taker. What is the secret?" - Apart from obviously scoring. [laughter] - No, he answered it for me. [laughter] - Yeah, look, I think just from experience knowing, you know, taking penalties in the heat at the moment and on, you know, relatively big stages. I say that, I say, you know, having a clear mind, and, you know, I mentioned to you guys before about having a stadium full of screaming fans, but not hearing too many things. It's just maintaining that focus and basically seeing where you're going to visualize where the ball's going to go and try and hit it hard enough so that even if he goes the right way, he doesn't get a finger on it, or if he does, he's putting it in the back of the net. - Who decides to win a game, who takes it? - Do you as captain get that call? - No, I don't as captain. [laughter] - But, yeah, we've had a system this year, and, you go by it and you respect it, and you hope that every penalty you get, we score. - You've never missed one, apparently, isn't it? [laughter] - The match goes to penalties. - Okay, does it? - It must be, it must be, it must be, it must be. - No, no, no, no, we've done a, during the build-up of the, so the semi, he's mentioned earlier, the semi, bizarrely enough the whole week was centered around the penalty shooter, and the mindset of the penalty shooter. - So there's obviously you and Johan, top penalty takers, but is everybody else comfortable? - You've been surprised that you've got a good group that can, that are comfortable taking it now, and I say comfortable training round. - That's a bit different, but, you know what, that's, you know, it's not for me to judge. And you've got to be put into that situation, and, you know, being, being around the guys and knowing them, I like to think that a lot of them can handle themselves in that sort of situation. - Yeah. - It won't come to that. - Who's the best player you've played with? - Does it better? - Golf, you sir. - What, Palace, or anything? - Anyway, anyway. - Okay, all took the mean penalty, it was to play with it. - I'd like to hear the name, mate. - You know what, he's been lying. - Actually, one of the guys from the National Liberal, she used to take a good penalty, yeah, he, he really missed. - I can still see Kevin Phillips while I went with him. - Yeah, Kev was, Kev was, Kev, I want to say Glen Murray, because he missed quite a few. Even though they were all for hatric balls, you know. But, no, Kev, Kev, obviously that, that penalty is the one, isn't it? That sticks out, you know, for, for us as, for me as a teammate and, and you guys as fans, that's, that's the one under, on such a big stage with so much at stake, extra time. - And the keeper did go the right way to do it. - Yeah, but he did that about, you know, making sure you hit it where you can't get it and hitting it hard enough. So if he does go the right way, it beats him. - Yeah. - Next question's for Steve, and it's from Delirious Dave. - Oh, Delirious? - The question's a little bit of cogent, I think. Are we close to seeing any proposed plans for rebuilding the ground? - Steve is, Steve Parris is, is working on that. There's, there's things that need to be sorted out. I think as people know, we have to talk to Sainsbury's because they own the car park and they own the bit next to the white horse lane in. So he's talking to them and I think he's hoping to be able to announce something this summer. - Okay. - That's not saying it's going to start, anything's going to start this summer, but I think he's hoping to announce it, perhaps, show some plans. But he's, he's definitely spending a lot of time on it. It is a plan. Josh and David are totally signed up to, to, to paying for and building a new main stand. Speaking of Josh, one of the next questions from Joshua, I and my Josh shut up. This one's for me, like, who, me, like, if he did vote or if he didn't vote, who would you have voted for? For player of the year in gold this season. - For player of the year and? - And gold of the season. You got to exclude yourself of this thing because they'll just be a little bit biased. - Oh, we'll do that. [laughter] - I think, I think they won. I think the award, obviously. Player of the year was, was a tough one. I think, you know, Wilfred, fantastic season. I would, I would have had it, I would have had a three-horse race, to be honest. Probably out of him, Yannick and Scotty. - Yeah. - That's just... - Dan, I think... - I'm not going to say one. - Dan, I think, I think, I think, got down for me was... - I don't know. - But it's interesting, the players... - I think the Scott Down and the fans went for... - Wilf. - Is that interesting, then? - I think so, yeah. [laughter] - When you were the only one that's over left on the part, this is... I thought Scott Down had a massive chance of winning the main... the first prize, but as it turned down more. - Well, apparently it was a very close fight, so he might have been... - Yeah. - Yeah, we don't know. - Okay. - Obviously, but obviously... - I'm not on the part. - But the players judge... you see them close up weekend. - I said... - You know, we'd done the players player. It was the first time we got asked to do it, and... I don't know how close that vote was, but... I'm pretty sure it was the unanimous decision, but... it's not to take anything away from what Wilf had did this year. - Yeah, I know. - I mean, that's... - That's... - These are, you know, a rightful winner in a... and as far as your goal goes... - Well, we all know the best chunk equals to this. - Yeah. - But for some breaks, that didn't... - Well, but... - Yeah, but then you... - Well, then what... it was obviously an emotional decision because of what that goal meant for... you know, the punching goal meant. - Oh, the punching was amazing. - You know what I mean? - Yeah. - So, in that sense... - And it turned... - It turned... - It turned... - It turned... - It turned... - And he's one of our own players. - And he's one of our own players. - Well, yeah. - If players had any sense of mischief, you would have all voted for Chiang to win Player of the Year... just to see... just to see how this plays as he walked up to get... - But it's... - Yeah, that's... - That's... - You're players take these things seriously, by the way, at clubs. Players... pleased when they get nominated for these things or win... - Oh, wow. Of course you should... - Yeah. - Of course you should. - You know, you want it? - Yeah, it's not him. - Yeah, I did. - I did, yeah. - So... I can't... - The goal of this... - Didn't you win the goal of this? - Last. - Oh, yeah, honestly. One of those... Liverpool, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So... - Nah, it's... - Ah, it's always nice to be acknowledged like that. - Yeah. - Yeah, it was interesting venue this year. - Yeah. - And it was... - Yeah. - Gotta say, but... - Yeah. - It went relatively smooth, I thought. - Yeah. - Let's go. - Apart from that. - That's a different comparison. - Yeah, that's it. Thank you very much for your questions this year. - Thank you. - There were some good... - Apologies we couldn't read them all out. But thanks for sending them in. And that's it for part two. So, Jon is off the break in part three. ♪♪ - It's time to get your checking account to zero with three checking from Penfen. That's zero ATM fees, zero balance requirements, and zero time spent waiting for your paycheck to direct deposit, because you can receive it up to two days early. Open your account with just $25, and see how big zero can be. Apply online today at penfed.org/freechecking. Early direct deposit eligibility may vary between pay periods and timing of payers funding. To receive any advertised product, you must become a member of penfed, insured by NCUA. ♪♪ - Hello, welcome back to the final part of this week's FYB because the FA Cup final podcast. ♪♪ - Good. Sponsored by Vets printing for all your printing and body we need to go to Vector.co.uk. - Okay. - Okay. - Okay. - Correct. And JCIS, the Global Research and Brank and TomC from South London. Visit JC-IS.com. - I will! - Nice! - That's another mic gone. - I will! - Okay, so it's the final part of the poll. - I will! I really will! - I get it. You're going to do it. - Do you enjoy my wine industry? - I love your wine, Steve. - Can we do every podcast round at Steve's house? - I don't think Steve wants us round every week. - No, he loves us. - He's my best mate. - He's my new best mate, Steve. - He's so lucky to have you. - I stole so much the wine, it's the Five Pints of Largum. Pretty wine. - Shh. - Okay. - The Five Pints of enthusiasm. - Okay. - Okay, so we've had a bit of a substitution for the pod. - Yes we have. - Mealy off. - A palace later is gone. (laughter) - He's standing in my shirt. - Mealy off. - Mealy off, because he's got training in the morning. - He needs to, obviously, go to bed. - We've replaced him with a main haunted fan. (laughter) - With a caveat that he's actually from Manchester. - Hey! - Wow! - And that is Ashley Margolis. - Yes. - It's so pretty good. - I feel very intimidated. Not because of you lot, I think. It's because of that I've been replaced. Mealy now. - Yeah. - This is just ridiculous. - Yeah, unfortunately you haven't got anyone near the bed. - It's a bit of a bed. - No, I did have the other week, but it's gone now. - Bad timing. - Was that for a bad timing? - No. - Just because of Lazy. (laughter) - Now, we've been told that you're a main iPhone, but you actually want Palace to win on Saturday. - Well, I don't know. - I can't ask you to say that out loud. - I can't say out loud. Well, no, there's reasons. There's reasons why, but I think ultimately I want United to win. But the only saying this out loud is bad. Well, no, it's not actually. The only reason I'd want Palace to win is because it would give United more reason to suck LVJ, in my opinion, which is a big comment. Who do you want to win? Who do you want to win? Who do you want to win? - I think Mourinho, because I think that he's our only chance at the minute of getting trophies. - So what's the most important part? - Part isn't going to come, though. - If Mourinho comes in, he'll probably win you a trophy and then disappear after two years. To an outsider, LVJ has brought young players in. - He has, but I feel like he's had to do that. I think it's been a club of kind of made-and-do because statistically, we don't play nice football. I don't think we play very good football anymore. He's made a few comments that to me quite harsh saying that our expectations are too high. I think that that is not right for United. - I think you should lower your expectations. [laughter] - Because those days are over. - I don't think they're- - If you're under the glass of wine, lower your expectations, mate. - Well, how do you know- - The thing is, you know, wherever we like it or not, you know, it's still one of the- - Even in terms of Brent, they are one of the biggest clubs in the world. - Yeah. - There's no doubt about it, in terms of global support, global popularity, as we've seen with everything- - I think Leeds United is to them, isn't there? - No, I don't think ever- - I mean, you know, they're going right up there with- - Round between the last level. - Yeah. - We've just seen with their recent financial figures. It's like they shouldn't be scrapping around together. - Yeah, to get fourth. - To get fourth spot, I think it's- - It's funny. - No. - To get it on the hedge, you shouldn't be happy. - It's funny, the Arsenal fans are very critical of anger. And he delivers Champions League football every year, and that's apparently not good enough. - Well, Radha's up in the Premier League, they're better forwards for quite some time. But I've talked about it's still not good enough. - No, it's amazing, isn't it? - But a trouble with that, you know, actually, is that any manager who's not focused on these- - Yeah, I think it's a- - I think it's a- - That'll be a problem because he was there for so long and his reign was so consistent with trophies. But I think what we've done is we've taken two backwards steps, and now with City getting Pep and Conti coming in and Poch is doing well at Spurs, I think United need a manager that's going to win them trophies, and I don't think LPG's the month. - So you'd be happy to have a manager like the radio who brings in- - Yeah, I think it's our only chance of getting trophies. I'd love Giggsy to come in, but I don't think he's been under the right. - I know he's been under Ferguson for so long, but I don't think as a coach. - Oh, he's got a ******. (laughter) - You can't, can't, can't, can't. - Ashley, how about May 9th and feeling about the finals out there? 'Cause they're going to be favourites, but are they worried about Penn Palace? - Erm, I think- - Probably not, I think- - Ooh. - Oh no. - One answer. - One answer. - One answer. - I'm not a bit here, master. - I think the- - No, I think our main issue is the- the bournemouth game getting cancelled is kind of going to knock us off sync a bit with the fact that we're not going to have a full week. - Erm. - Are you not going to play- - We can team it now. - Yeah, we are. - Well, I guess bournemouth. - Yeah, imagine so. - Like it's Palace. - Yeah, probably. We've got, you know, unless we're going to win 19-0, we're not getting champions League, so- - Is there nothing to play for in that game? - Erm, well no, I think there is because at the minute, Southampton are ahead of us, I think. I think we're 6 now, so- - Yeah. - I think it's still- - Depends whether you go in the straight to the group stages or you have to be pre-qualified. - Yeah. - Then you win the epic. - If you win the epic game, then it's straight in. - Yeah. - Well, same with us. - Same with us. - Same with us. - I don't really know if, you know, our weakened side is kind of- it's been changing all the time. - You know, we can side it any better than your actual side. - Yeah. - I think that- - Yeah. - I don't know what our weak side is. It's been so- it's been changing at the time, so- - Oh, do you think about a Rudy playing- where he's been playing rather than- because clearly he seems to want to play as the focal point of the attack, but- - Yeah, I think he's- I think he's- I think he's not going to get much- I think he's still a great striker, but I think when Rashford and Marciela playing so well, I think he's not going to get lucky, and I think he- he is a better distributor for the ball for us because Armid Field slightly lacks that sort of quality to sort of, you know, the old Skoll's type getting the ball forward. So I think Rudy would, you know, he's great for that. So I think I like him playing in the field. - Yeah, do you feel about floating? - Salini. - Skows are in that. - It's probably my favourite box for me. - Skows are in that. - I remember- - I remember being at Old Trafford when- when Paul's played, you know, I had to Old Trafford because he was going to Salini's first game. - Yeah. - And he came on as a server. I always remember the past fans who was the Skowser in the week. - And they sang out. - But it was your favourite. - Yeah, that was me. - Yeah. - Sorry. - Yeah, yeah, thanks a lot, guys. Thanks for the podcast. It's been great. - Yeah, yeah. - I'll see you next week. - But you are taking the piss out of a bloke with a big, big curly head. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I am. - I feel like Steve Brown, yeah. - I feel like Steve Brown, yeah. - Steve, can you elaborate on that for the people who are listening on the radio? - I think I can think with Marie here as well. It's too outside as it seems. - I'm probably Bobbie Chilton, I don't want Marie here at the club. Is there an issue? Do those two seem to have a massive amount of influence? - I think it's still... I mean, I hope so. I think yes, they do, probably. I can understand why... I think if they were going to give him the job they would have done already. - Well, that's... - He's been out, you know, they've had ample opportunities to do it. - Well, that's why I just think that Harley's going to stay. - Oh, if I was a man you found, I did want that hard. I'd be slightly worried that he hadn't already been. Unless they've sort of... Because it went tits off a man's city when they got rid of preliminary mid-season. - Mm-hmm. - So unless they're thinking that we can't just take into Louis van Halber. - Maybe. I just think that they've, you know, like with the Sanchez stuff that, you know, there's talk of the fact that he's sort of, he made them pull out of that deal. You know, makes me think, well then he's, you know, if he's dictating transfers for the, you know, some that he's staying. - Well, it's also apparently dictating the training schedule and the pre-season schedule. - The tour, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I've been thinking about it, you know, like the fans are on his side. - I think they probably are. I mean, I just, I just think that our football isn't as good as it was. And I think it's slightly better than Mois, you know, when he took over. - That's... - I mean... - That's stabbing me, thanks. - Slightly better than Mois. - No, it's slightly better than Mois. - Yeah. - But I just think that his football is boring to watch. And we're not very good at attacking. You know, without Marcial and Rashford coming in the season, we kind of... - The only thing that, the only thing that worries me about that is, it fills all their similarities to the 1990 final when, obviously, Ferguson hadn't won anything. - Yeah? - Yeah. - Yeah. - And was a bit under pressure. - Oh, lots of rumours that he was about to get sick. - Well, exactly. And then, I feel like there's similarities in him and the LGBT a little bit, you know, and maybe, well, I hope it doesn't go the same way. - Well, I think Ferguson was under more pressure back then. - Yeah, definitely. - And I'm very hollow now. Because it was different back then, because managers, they weren't sacked as well in Italy as they were now. Folks have got bought in with a massive reputation that just didn't work from at all. And we all feel that responsibility, that if we had probably won the FA Cup final, you know, it would have disappeared into obscurity. And then, for one of them, I think so. - Well, they might this year. - No. - No. - Yeah, we're not going to... - Is this a big game for your heart? - I think it's a big game for you. I mean... - Yeah, FA Cup. - Yeah, I mean... - We've not been in the FA Cup final for 14 years. I think it is. - Really? - Really? - I think it is. - There's a lot of pressure on the night to win it. - No, haven't won it since 2004. - 2004. - That's 12 years ago. - That's 12 years ago. - You know in France. And the club, it's a big game for them. I was just like, "Oh, Italy." - No, it's a game that we should be in. I think it's this is the one game of the season that we should be in, for sure. We should be challenging for Cups. And, you know, if it's FA Cup, we should be challenging for the league. We should have been challenging for Europa, you know, this year and stuff. But I think it is a big game. I think because as well, it will tie... Will it tie us with us? I think it will tie us with us. Why don't we have the 12 FA Cups? I think in total. They got 12 and we've got 11. - You know what? I think it's not enough. - You know what? - I've absolutely no idea. - I think it is. - You know what? I don't even care. - I think we've got 11 FA Cups. - We've got no idea. - I think it'll be great. It'll be good. - I'm not asking a question. - Yeah. - It's good. - Yeah, it's good. - Ashley. - Chris. - As a man, you're not a fan. - Yes. - What do you know about Paris? - You're... Where are you in the league? - Is it? - It's not that much. - Not much. - Not much. - Yeah, it's like... - What do the non-Paris fans know? - Similarly, the table one. - You don't have to think. - You don't have to think. - You don't have to think. - You're not going to be one bit of likely a don't make you count on all. - Oh, yeah. - You don't have to be a bit of a... - You don't have to be a bit of a... - I'm not meant to. - You're going to be a doctor, Richard Cozman. - When? - When you were born? - 93. - You're born in a gym. - You're born in a gym. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You've got homework to do. - You have your own. - Like studying. - Studying. - Are there other players at Palace that have now that you think could threaten? Like, where do you think Palace can hurt United? - And as you can do it. - Obviously, it's a hard one. - Of course. - You've got patience in your team. (laughter) - And, you know, I think we've got quite a few sort of slower players. (laughter) - Can you name them for us, please? - I'm going to do it. - And I'm going to do it. - Why, you're a... - You have a score flash coming through from... I'd just like to pass on my commiserations to the entire South Coast. - Yeah. - I mean, I feel right. - I feel right. - Exactly right. - The championship makes season. - Well, that's good. - Brian, had they played in the season we went up, would have won the league. - Oh. - Better fail to go up. - Oh, so... - I think it was all season. - Is that confirmed? Is that confirmed? Is that confirmed? - It's confirmed. - What's the score? - One, one. (laughter) - That means... - Did Barry Bannon score? - Barry Bannon did not score. - But Barry Bannon's played. - So, Brian has lost to the second note. - So, Brian, you're not... - Oh, man. - Oh. - Fantastic. - There you go. - What a shame. - In the way that we're probably too obsessed with Brighton, I mean, you know, it's still too obsessed with Liverpool. - Hmm. - Hmm. - What is a fan? - I would say. - I would say. I might have watched that group with some United fans. - Yeah. - They're obsessed with Liverpool. - Yeah. - Liverpool. - More so than city. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I mean, like, my auntie's like a die-hard red. And she'll say that she won't, if she's doing, like, fun-ceely. - What's she doing? - No, she puts, yeah. (laughter) - Come on! If she's doing fun-ceely, she won't have any Liverpool players. - She's a comedy student. - Yeah. (laughter) Yeah, I don't think, no, I don't like Liverpool. They've got a good manager, they, and they'll do well. - So what's going on, Sega, when you lose, they've got final? How are you going to feel as a club? (laughter) You know what I'm like down in? What's going on? - Jake's had to go up BBC. (laughter) - Not soon. Is it working out when you lose? - What are we losing? Are we going to lose? I don't think we will. I think we will. - How are you going to feel? - How am I going to feel? - Well, not you personally, but you as a club. - What is he doing? - I don't know. (laughter) - There you are as a club. - We've only just discovered he's 23, haven't we? - No, he is. (laughter) - He doesn't know you. - He's a respected guest of our podcast, Jake. - I like your lot. - I like your lot. - I like your lot. - Oh, thank you. - I do like your lot. - Okay, but we briefly mentioned Wolf's Art. - Wolf's Art. - Wolf's Art? - Play tonight, he did. - Do you know how fans feel that there was an opportunity missed or that it did sort of a flop - Yeah, I just think it just didn't work with him. I think he didn't. Yeah, he didn't play. Really, I don't know. He might just stop playing him and there was obviously something that just didn't click there. Well, I don't know. I don't know what was going on. I'm not in the club. - I mean, it would be, it would be, it would be, I don't know. - I don't know. - I don't know that one. - It would be almost quite a priority, wouldn't it? For Wolf to get the winner, wouldn't it? - I don't know. From Wolf's point of view, I don't know. Just David, every Palace fan that saw Wolf go to many night in as a positive thing for him and for England. - And for Palace? - Because one thing that Steve Peri said was that, you know, I'm very honorable in their dealings with Postbats. - Yeah, yeah. And they let us have him back online. Well, it was part of the deal. They would have had him otherwise. - But the one thing, the one thing... - And we wouldn't have got promoted if we hadn't. - Yeah, that's right. Yeah, he was... - But the one thing we didn't know was that folks was about to leave, you know, because I don't... Wolf would have learnt a lot under Focus. But boys just didn't fancy him as a player, didn't think he worked hard enough. And also, at the same time, put too much pressure on him by when he made his debut, saying, "Go on and witness the game." But I don't think Wolf would actually feel that he's got that much to prove against you. Because it's a totally different... - It's a different team. - It's a different team. He plays everyone. - Yeah. - I think, you know, we lack in our wingers and that's where he was, you know, he's a strength. So, I think, but it is, as you say, it's not a focus in the item. This is a totally different team. So... - Okay, well, we're hoping for a different result on Saturday from the 1990 Cup Final. But, Ashley, thank you very much for coming on and giving us the opinion from the other side. We really appreciate it. - I'd give it a terrible sad angle. I really never want to see you again. - Okay. - I think you're probably going to be fine. - It's a pleasure. - Steve, Steve, thank you very much for coming on the bus. - No, cheers. - Always glad to be here. - I really appreciate it. And Kevin, James and Andy, thank you very much for being here. - Thank you for hosting. - You are welcome. That is the end of our FA Cup Final special podcast. We will be back with you for one more pod at the end of the season after the Cup Final. But to play us out, we have now got the unofficial, but kind of official FA Cup. - You're now, isn't it? - It's basically... - The FA Cup Final song from Friends of the Podcast, Doc Brown and Verbtee. This is Cloud On Over again. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
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