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You save. Full details on example policies at selectquote.com/commercials. Hello and welcome to the five-year plan podcast. Hey! I'm a little bit cheerier than Kevin and Andy are. Well, I don't know. Is it time to be cheering? It's a warm and dry. I've got my health. Someone called me "scrooge" on Twitter in February the other day because of the pods. It's a huge. He keeps Christmas in his heart all year round. He runs a business on an even keel. A lot of pilots try to. Something to be said for. I wasn't out of the game on Saturday because I was... Were you busy being embroidered? No, I was rehearsing a show at the Terrell London. He's never told me that Palace have lost. Really? He took great pleasure in doing so, I have to say. I've seen the extended highline. Was that one of their waiters or was it the head chef at Beef Eater? Oh, I see. Don't say to their face, they're very proud. Speaking of better businesses than Beef Eater. Terrell London is not Beef Eater. Oh, sorry, different kind of better. Well, a beef eater you do have to pay the money every year. Yeah, for a license. Does it pay anyone to drink that fill? We get paid, I think, to promote our sponsors, actually. Oh, yeah. That's a little segue there for you. It's like JD's in the river. This podcast is brought to you by Vector Printing. That's Vector Wither. And then also JCIS, the global research and brand consultancy from South London. Visit JCIS.com. Oh, I will. There we go. Great, well done. I've rehearsed this. JD's must ask me to remind everyone that Vector has actually produced two T-shirts for us, for FYP. And you can buy them at, I believe it's T-shirt Monster/FIP. Yes. And having modelled them. I'm wearing one at the moment, actually. And he's wearing one at the moment. So it looks a lot like the picture of JD wearing one, except I don't like an undernourished child with a vitamin deficiency. So I just imagine that. And I'm looking at a little less like Hailey Cropper. And then you've basically got what the T-shirt looks like. He looks very thin apart from his guns, as he likes to call them. His muscles, which he's got. He's got a haircut now, so he looks even thinner. Oh, for the more portly listener, by the way. Don't go for the XL. He doesn't want to buy the XL. The XL is not as expensive. We call it the end of the cup. The end of the cup. Right. Yeah, millets might be the best bet for the proper size. I would say that I think we're kind of delaying speaking about the inevitable, aren't we? Religations. I'm seeing if we can get a whole hour without talking about Palace. I know. How was your weekend? Well, it was fun until I went to Palace. It was pretty awful, wasn't it? I mean, I guess you could argue that the first half was probably, we were put on the back foot at the minute that the referee gave the penalty, which I would say was probably justified, but with a caveat. And then, after that, finally, after half time, we came out and looked a little bit like we had some intention of actually doing something with the match, only for our defensive frailty to kind of let go. Would you say that that would be the decent sum of the other? Well, as I said, I only watched the sort of extended highlights on Sky. I think we were all a bit disappointed because we were quite bullish after a one or draw with Swansea last week, and I thought that we would come out of the traps. It's slightly worrying to hear how you talk about not being able to find the right balance at the moment, which is pretty much his job. It's annoying that we've lost the left back for the next, but I presume it'll be three games. I think it'll just be one, because it's only violent conduct that you get. It was a very nice challenge, but I think if they thought it was particularly bad, that type of challenge, then they might make it up to three guys. On the other hand, of course. The FA Cup game, notwithstanding, we've got a bit of a rest before the next league match. Things are a bit more optimistic about the Lassie. It looks like Addie Boyle will get a couple of goals. We just need to find a way of properly working towards him. That was a disappointing result, actually, because we were really excited. I talked about that. Swansea was being as good as a win in the circumstances, and I just didn't see that happening on Saturday to be perfectly honest, especially with Watford's recent form, and the fact that we've got a really good record against Watford for the most part. I genuinely didn't see that happening, and the first half performance, I just don't understand how that could have been allowed to happen. I think there's a real psychological issue. I mentioned it in this five points thing that we do on the website, and I think that there is a psychological issue that we have a game plan, and obviously that seems to be drilled into the players from about Wednesday onwards, from what I've picked up from the documentaries that ballots have done for American TV. We have this game plan, and everything is all about getting into their mindset, that this is how the game should work, and this is how if we play our way, it will work out. Then we were doing that, and then for ten minutes into the match, I think, was it ten minutes when? It was sixteen minutes into the match. You then end up in a situation where the referee makes a decision, which is completely and utterly justified, but to me, I think that you could argue that at that point in the match, perhaps the referee should have actually pulled both teams to one side and said, "Look, I can see there's some pulling going on." Instead, he let it carry on, and then, and then, deadnack obviously ends up giving a penalty away. That wrote off the game plan, but from that moment on, they all just kind of heads dropped, it was amazing seeing it. What is actually, there's three issues here. The first one with the referee, it is a penalty, but if you're going to give that one, you've got to give six or seven penalties in the game. There are opportunities later in the match where he pulled them both. That's fair enough, I don't mind him giving that. Because a lot of referees view those incidents in a different fashion. I don't know referees, so I've been there. Referees will sometimes go into the dressing room before the game. Some referees will say, "Look, I'm all over the pulling thing. I will penalise you." Some referees will go in and say, "I don't give a monkey to do what you want. I'm not going to penalise you." That is what it is. The head-dropping is a worry because that happened as soon as Ballmouth equalised. As soon as Ballmouth scored the first goal, we knew they were going to get the next goal. The thing about the game plan is professional footballers. Professional Premier League footballers. If our coaching staff can't coach plans BC and D into them, or even better, leave them to their own devices, they should be clever enough and good enough to adapt to the way they play once they go down. These are all little things that are building up and making you worried about what is going on behind the scenes, because we should have roared into that game off the back of this one, because everyone talked about it being a monkey off our back. Everyone talked about getting off the 31 points. Everyone talked about the newfound resilience back to the old days, if you want. Then we went out and we played like that against the team that we should be beating. Again, it adds to the home-form debate, but it adds to all sorts of things that make you worried about what is going on. We just don't seem to be able to cope with those teams you play in the manner of Whatford and Ballmouth and Leicester, who really press, but almost do so in really selected parts of the pitch and getting your faces. Every time we seem to have played against one of those teams this season, we don't seem to have come out of our shell. We seem to have been a little bit overall and have looked a little bit panicked. It looked a bit like that, again, against Whatford, certainly the first half. Second half, there was a marginal improvement until for just the most baffling reason ever, a party decides to shift it again tactically for a third time in the match and bring on Fraser Campbell, which I just thought was a ludicrous decision, which I'm going to go so far as to say it possibly lost us the match. I guess one thing that came from that game was the fact that matches we've all been crying out for the slight retrograde 442 that does seem to work for other teams. Unless you're drilling that into your team, it seems week in, week out, every single day in training four days a week for months and months and months. It seems that a team who's been drilled in the manner that Palace have been drilled really are going to struggle to adapt to it just like that. It might be the case that in certain matches where it's starting to go a certain way, like this one that you can just change it up and hopefully something might work on the fly, there's something that really needs to be drilled. You can't just hope that a Plan B will sort of, you know, come out of thin air and fall into place without any form of long-term, working towards that. Yeah, this should be so big. It's not the same as Warnock saying we're going to play a diamond today, like it's the way he did against Southampton on Boxing Day. I mean, that's a completely different radical shift in the way they play. And just being able to adapt on the fly after going to go down, there should be something that professional footballers can do anyway, and there should be other options. There should be, you know, every manager you would hope would be saying to them, "Look, this is the plan, but if we one deal down after 15 minutes, I either keep playing or we change it to this or we do this or I'm going to do that and bring that." And that doesn't seem to be happening with Palace. We don't seem to be able to adapt to any circumstances. And the thing is you talk about attitude, under pureness, and for the first part of the season under part of you, that was us. We were the team without attitude. We were the team that was going away to other places and getting in people's faces and snapping and snarling. And not only are we not doing that now, but we don't seem to be able to cope with people that are doing it. And it's not like they're doing it particularly well. We're getting bullied out of it by what our essentially championship team has recently. That's a really worrying sign, because Pardu keeps talking about what a big physical side we are, and we're not, we seem to be backing down. Would you say that there's a problem with an inability to know what the balance is between being maverick and trying to go for the win and kind of seeing that this was an opportunity to maybe get another point? We're leaving the ballbacks so exposed at the moment. And they are not particularly good fallbacks defensively. I don't care what anyone says about Joel Ward being good enough for England. He's not that brilliant position at times. He lets the ball drop every show. He doesn't know where it's going at times. Which happens in the first half. It's happened to fair him out this season. And there have been certain performances where he's kind of been given a bit of a free pass as to some of the basic errors he's making. That's nothing as to some of Tuare's basic positioning. Which at times is just baffling. He'll sometimes want to stick within three yards of Delaney on the left hand of that box. And then sometimes just hug the touch time for no particular reason and let his man get five yards on him. And effectively that's all happening because you're playing a slightly more expansive system. You're not protecting the space in front of the back four. All of a sudden the pitch is stretched. That back two that we've got in Dan Delaney much as they're great and will throw their bodies on the line. They're not that mobile. So if you're trying to play that slightly further forward slightly more expansive system they can't recover quite as well. And we've looked so open recently. And we're making so many basic errors and much I'd love to pin it all on Wayne Hennessy's incompetence. You can't put it all on Wayne Hennessy. I've seen people trying to say well the clear and obvious answer is that the defence have just lost confidence in Wayne Hennessy and it can all be attributed to that. And that's just a nonsense to me. They're making basic errors week in week out. And that in part is because those defensive type players that we've got in that back four are not suited to that system. And it's partially that they're just bereft of any confidence at the moment. I think it was. Sorry. I mean the thing is it was working before Christmas. That same style was pretty much working before Christmas. And that's why we didn't really talk about a plan B that much. I know Andy, you're the one who's always gone on about it more than the others. But mainly in the sort of context of the old game that we drew and perhaps we should have won. But for the most part before Christmas it was working. I think partly it's because the thing with Balassie, we know we miss Balassie, but Swaray, I think Mrs Balassie more than anyone, because Swaray and Balassie had a really good relationship going. Whether they'd worked on it, whether it was instinctive, or whether it was Balassie being cleverer than we thought he probably was. But Balassie really, really covered the world for Swaray. They linked the world together. Balassie dropped in when Swaray went forward. It's a word noting that they both speak French. I know it sounds really naive, but then you look at Lee, who at Swansea really struggled on covering for Swaray. I'm not really sure that it's possible. I don't think so. Maybe one of the reasons why they go on well, I don't know if they do go on well together. But they seem to have a partnership, I think. I've heard Balassie's beat. I don't think Balassie's French accent and Swaray's French accent, they're compatible with such. I wouldn't have thought it was as simple as that. But whatever the reason, Swaray was clearly happy when Balassie was there, and they were clearly working well together. And all the options that have been tried in front of Swaray just haven't quite worked. And it's still a sense where we look, maybe just for a few games, concentrate on the defence that goes forward as much. He's not going to be doing that now because it's suspension. The other thing you could ask is, do you think that it's a case that the defensive unit have kind of lost that trust in each other? And I'm not just talking about Hennessy and Dan and Delaney, but one of the key reasons why we conceded that goal against Watford is because Ward cut inside, tried to cover the centre backs because he didn't think they would reach. He didn't think they would get the header. He didn't think they'd get their head on the ball. There's also a kind of mistrust of the fact that maybe that should have been one of those opportunities for Hennessy to come and collect or punch, which is what Gomez did for Watford on a couple of occasions. You know, there's no harm in trying to get the ball clear whatever way you can, but clearly that seemed to be a problem for us. And that's happened a couple of times now, and it ended up with Joel Ward getting dragged inside. Troy Demi standing on the back post completely by himself. He just needed to take one touch. And Chongyong Lee could have been there covering as well. It's about how you're that though, isn't it? Because the bottom line should now be look defence. You've not got both Kebai and McArthur ahead of you. You've got someone who's a demonstrably worse footballer and passer in Medai Jeddonak who will be the one man you would feed it to. So if you have to keep it simple and put it out into touch very, very quickly because the only option you've got on is Jeddonak with a couple of yards of space around, and then do so. But there's not really been that sort of... Technism. Well, no, and just not an acknowledgement that the personnel that we've got there are different now and you've got to become a lot more pragmatic about it. It's just, right, we'll try and play the same way, but put out a few different players. We'll try and approach the game in exactly the same way. We'll just effectively play with the same tactical approach because it's not really varied that much despite Jeddonak coming in for McArthur, and they could not be more different as footballers. What do you make of part of you saying that he was disappointed in the quality of the football in terms of, you know, he said that there wasn't a problem with application. There wasn't a problem with the amount of, you know, with their effort, but rather the quality and the way that we kept trying to rely on long balls, especially in the first half. That changed in the second half. Well, what sort of team relies on long balls, a team that's bereft of confidence? And frankly, it's where part you need to now be earning his salary in trying to pump the squad back up and trying to reboot morale levels because we've seen it at other teams that he's had control of, that they go on these long losing streaks and that he's not necessarily able to turn around the morale and to pick the confidence up in the manner that you probably expect to have a manager at his level to be able to do. So when teams start making those sort of basic areas with their passing and with their first start, just because they're tense, because they're lacking in confidence. They're starting to really freeze up whenever the ball's coming into them. The muscles are more tense than they normally would be. I don't think down to any lack of application or to them being, you know, worse footballers than they were at four months ago. It's a lot of it down to, well, yeah, poor form as well, but also a lack of confidence. The long ball thing doesn't always indicate a lack of confidence because the PULISES team, in its pump, were playing long balls. I think that's part of the problem is you've still got players there whose natural instinct is to hit the ball long in the first place, because that's what they were sort of doing by PULISES. And I think what we forget is that there weren't that many games we played brilliantly in the first half of the season anyway. We've talked about this before. There's only probably a West Brom at home man united maybe, a couple of the way games ever and away, but we were getting good results because of the resilience and the shape and the compactness or whatever, but also we were getting away with it because ballassie was such a useful output. And I suspect that Addy Byall and ballassie, when they're both fully fit and in the team, will make some of those long balls look more effective than they are. Simply we haven't got anybody up front at the moment who can turn those long balls into attack or can hold on to them. They're coming straight back, but if we knew that you'd presume that the PULISES coaching team are having the same conversation, because it's not that long ago that we were talking with Delaney and Dan being arguably the best centre back pairing in the Premier League. And our defence being as good as any in the Premier League. So some things happen, whether it's Hennessy, whether it's confidence, whether it's ballassie. I don't know what it is, but some things happen. And I think it's a big case we're putting boating in from the start now, just for the energy, just for the being out of cover. We love Jen that. And Jen, that's clearly a good footballer, but his time has passed for Palace I think. Because he just hasn't got the wheel, but he hasn't got the ability anymore. He starts behind everything. He looks now how he looked when he first came into the championship team. He looks off the pace a little bit, a lot of layoff through injury. All the travelling he's done in the last two years must have caught up with him as well, because that gets into your bones, as they say, the cliche. You've got boating there, look good when he came on against ones. He's just got that energy, that exuberance. He'll get across the pitch. He's a big lad. He has no fear. I just think we just need something that needs to change, and it's got to change in that midfield situation. So we haven't got enough variety on the bench to change it about four completely. He's clearly not going to drop Hennessy. So the obvious place to change it for me is midfield. And Bow Ten seems the obvious choice. What I'd like to see is him starting against Tottenham in the cup game. So I really don't give up. I think those Palace fans, I don't give a flying toss what happens against Tottenham now. But if we can use it as a, and I hate to sound like a championship team or a league one team, if we can use that as a way of getting experience for some of the players who haven't had a go, then I would do that and let the other players have a rest before. With taking the what for defeat was obviously quite difficult. But I guess there might be a couple of positives that we could look at. It was added by yours goal. And in an example of what we've landed, in terms of that, you know, that that header was a nothing opportunity really. I mean, you look at, we've had so many crosses into the box like that previously. The keepers have just come collected it or defenders have just cleared it. But added by your managed to get that extra yard on his defender and struck a beautiful header, didn't he? Yeah, I think once, none of us disagree that he's a good siding. And that's after just, I mean, essentially two games of needing to kind of get up to speed. Yeah, I think once he's fully matched for it he'll get us. He will get goals and he'll get goals out of nothing as well, which we haven't had for the striker for a long time really. What about you, Andy? Do you think, what about Wilfred Zaha? Would you say that he was a highlighter such? I think he had another strong game. Another game again where I sort of alternated between delighting at what he was doing with the ball. And then just utterly despairing at the inability that he's got the amount to put a lid on his temperament. Yeah, again, he looks rattled. And yeah, again, there were sort of opposition players in his ear and, you know, slight kicks all over the place. And fans basing him from the other side. Second time in a row where we've heard that he's going to cry in a minute, Chan. Because I think he just lets his emotions show too much. Well, yeah. And frankly, if he's going to, and he's playing out of his skin and he deserved to win the award that he won the other week. So player of the month or whatever it is, it will all be against a fairly scant sort of competition field in terms of how our squad has been playing generally. You know, if he's going to continue to progress at the top level, he really, the thing that separates people who have ability at that top level. And people who achieve all the time at the top level. A lot of it's psychological and a lot of it is temperament based. And if he wants to be a genuinely international class footballer, I think he's probably got it in him actually over the long term. He's still very, very young. He needs to learn how to think like a top level footballer, not just to play like it. And needs to learn how to act like one in terms of, you know, not reacting in the way that he does, not, you know, constantly whining to the referee. Not being the subject of baiting from opposition fans, because he constantly looks emotional, like he's about to cry. There's lots of stuff that he needs to just become a bit more steel about. But then again, you know, he had another outstanding game at times. He was beating men for fun. He was creating opportunities, is crossing into the botches now far, far better. Could have created the goal for Adebai or if it doesn't end up being an amazing piece of recovering defending from the Watford defender as it was in the end, you know, a certain goal. He's putting him fantastic performances. My worry is that eventually at some point he's going to get himself sent off. He must be really frustrated at the moment though, because he's having his best spell since he came back to Palace for that and he doubt. And no one's noticing, because he's, we're in a bad role in a form. And the fact is, of course, he's desperate to get in that England team. And Hodgson's not going to come to sell us part while we're playing the way we're playing. They're not going to come to watch anybody else. They're not going to come to watch Wilfred. So he's in the form, he's playing the sort of football game in the England squad. Where are the only ones who know that? So, of course, he's frustrated. But it's not just down to him. It's down to the senior players. It's down to the coaching and management to deal with the frustration angle as well. And also it's a little bit down to managing referees as well, because we're in that sort of... Everyone complains about refs, so you only have to see what... He was terrible at the time. Yeah, but he's one of the poorer of the new refs, medley. But you only have to see what Atkinson did yesterday and Clattenberg did yesterday. And every club in the Premier League thinks they're hard done by. But we are in a bit of a run at the moment where we're just not getting the rub of the green from refs. And that will change, but I think we need to kind of... Carden up a little. We've talked about this before. We need to get into the ref early on in the game and just... The senior players need to be saying, "Look, he's getting a batter in here. He's not making this up." Because at the moment, referees seem to be targeting Zahar as a diver, rather than as a target for serious foul play. And Andy talks about the rotational fouling, which finally media picked up a little bit on Leicester yesterday, where teams basically take it in terms to foul somebody. And that's what it's being done as a hire. And the court is frustrated, but I think it's easier said than done just to say to him, that he's got a man up and toughen up, because he's got to be helped in that. You know, another player, you know, every now and again, we need some of our midfield players to say, "If someone's targeting Zahar, give them a whack." Or let him know that we know what he's doing. It was frustrating. Because I mean, there was the Watford number 11 who was there. I think their winger committed about four or five thousand the first half and didn't get a card. And then he committed a fifth foul and right at the start of the second half, still didn't get a card. And it kind of makes me think, like, how many times? I understand that there's a kind of intent to, you know, if it's not, it can't be that serious a foul and then you're not going to book him. But then after four or five thousand in a row where you're questioning. There's two ways of looking at this instead. Most of the day, too, summed it up last night. The ex-players are going, you know, not every foul is a booking. And that's fair enough. And against Palace, it certainly isn't. But they're all going on about the Arsenal thing. They're all about Sanchez showing the pretend you don't have a card. All right. You don't like to see it, but it worked. And they ended up with a list to play again, sent off because you've got to let referees know that you're really upset about what's happening to your players. And we're not doing that at the moment. And one of the things we did under Pewliss, and I wasn't particularly proud of it, but it was effective, is we used to crowd the referees. We used to let referees know what was going on. You have to do that. You've got to man up a little bit. And we're not doing, we're simply not, we're not going head to head with people at the moment. I don't understand why that is. And it can't just be because Pardu is worried about his potential England chances and doesn't want us to have stupid sending offs, because it's going to happen anyway, because we're getting frustrated. We just have to compete more. And that doesn't necessarily mean tackles. We've just got to get in people's faces. We're not doing it. We look weak at the moment. On a final point, is it worth making a note of the fact that Pardu said, in the pre-match press conference, that Palace are not the kind of team to win penalties, especially at Sellhurst, we haven't had a penalty for X number of matches. And then within 10 minutes, we already end up conceiving a penalty from the referee. The more often we get players in the bot, the West Brom game, for example, when Will got the penalty at the end. He must have been in the box in that situation 20 times beforehand. It just doesn't, there's no one driving into the box at the moment with any pace. So we're not going to get penalties the way we're playing at the moment. And it will even itself out. These things always do. It will take a lot of evening out, but we will get the luck of the green, as we've had in the past with penalties and bookings forever. It's just, Frank, we shouldn't. I remember clearly when we were fifth saying on this Pard, "This is great, but we mustn't get disappointed if we end up 13th or 14th." And my wildest dreams thing that was going to happen. And now it is, and I don't think we're going down. But I can't, I'm so cross it, it's come to this. And of course we can't put our finger on why it's come to this, and it can't be as simple as Balassie not being there. But it just shouldn't have come to. We shouldn't be having these conversations. I don't think we'll go down. The reason being, well, yeah, Balassie, we'll get to 38 points, and that's what it will take. I can't, we're not going to not win two games. And the reason being Addie Boy will get some goals, Balassie will come back. And the fact is that Parrish is quite ruthless. If we lose four or five more games, we'll have a new manager. And then we'll win two or three games under them. Because that conversation has to be had eventually. Yeah. Well, on that note. Well, yes, I mean, so I mean, it's a bombshell. No, it does. How many more games do you have to lose? Four, six, eight. Well, I mean, yeah. One knock in the league actually had a similar form to Pard you did. I don't want Pard you. I think Pard you was potentially the best manager we will ever have. And I've talked before. I want him to stay for four or five, six seasons. But Parrish is a ruthless man. And we have to be in the Premier League next season for our finances. He won't. He can't let it happen. He can't. We can't get in the situation that Westdown didn't say, "Well, let's check our good Pard you as a manager in the championship." Simply won't happen. So if we have to get the two wins because Pard you has been sat with six games today, we will get it. Because, you know, with the goal difference, two more wins gives us 38 points. That means Newcastle needs 16 points to get ahead of us. And I can't see that happening. And we will. We'll get a little spell of games. I can't believe some of the chat that I'm seeing online where people are talking about like it's a really distinct, like not just possibility, but a probability at the moment. No, it's not at all. And you're talking about over a 20-game period effectively. It would end up being a palace playing in worse form than Villa were in their worst period. Yeah, we're on a bad run at the moment. But no, if there's anyone want to look at me straight in the face without smirking, and tell me that we're going to only win one game in 20. It's just, you know, that's not going to happen. But I think Kevin is entirely right that Pard you does need to start earning his wage, and he does need to start thinking, well, you know, the building of the troops morale and the resilience on all that sort of psychological stuff that is down to me as a manager. It's all very well talking about my management when things are going well, and I'm putting my arm around players' shoulders and saying, oh, you're playing really well. Keep it going. You or I could do that. So where Pard you should be differing is being able to pick them up again when they're down. Yeah, everyone said yesterday that if Leicester had beat an Arsenal and gone eight points clear, they were uncatchable. Everybody said that. There wasn't one football person who said that Leicester wouldn't win the title if they went eight points clear of Arsenal. And where eight points clear of Newcastle, with the goal difference, nine points clear. So no, I generally... A Newcastle actually win football games on Arsenal. Yeah, and I generally don't believe we will go down because there are much worse teams than we will pick some points up. But at the moment, we look like we're sleepwalking into... There doesn't seem to be any urgency. Again, which we talked about this before, there's no... You just want people to acknowledge that there is a problem at the moment, and they're trying to find ways of sorting it out. They're going away this week for a bit of sunshine, you know. And it will change, but at the moment, it's really, really frustrating. It's just... I kind of... You know, you get into these complicated battles with fate on a second-guess it, and take fate on in these arm-wrestling games where you're trying to lure them in to make sure you win stuff. And that's partly why I said all that stuff before Christmas when we were in fifth, saying, "Well, let's not be disappointed if we do drop down the table." Which is my way of saying to fate, you know, "Don't let us drop down the table." One of the things... Street is always talking about reverting to the normal weather, but we're not. We're a better team than we... You know, probably eight-four-ninth is a realistic position. We're a better team. We're a better team than we are. I just want to point out that since changing the music back, we haven't won a single game, after the change from the music in the first place, we won football matches just saying... Fair point. Right. You didn't change it back properly, do you? Well, let's go to part two, where I think we're going to be taking questions, and then after that, we'll be looking at a moment in history, I guess. Alright, join us in part two. Welcome back to part two of the five-year plan podcast. I don't think I mentioned, but this is part of 169. It is indeed, isn't it? Yeah, apparently so. And this podcast is brought to you by Vector Printing. That's www.vector.co.uk, and that's Vector Wither. Okay. Because I think I've missed the website as well. And you missed for all your embroidery needs as well. Oh, you're embroidery needs. What is wrong with me at the moment anyway? I suppose it's difficult. You've picked big shoes to fill. I mean, there's bad form as palisite. Big skinny shoes to fill. That's true, yeah. It's true, you know. There's no way off. They were his shoes. At least you've got proper broad shoulders, like... It's true, yeah. Scottish. Yeah. Structural shoulders. And we'll hit the podcast. It's also brought to you by... Is that a thing? I didn't mean I was having a thing. Scottish shoulders. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I do the Edinburgh Festival every year. The Scottish shoulders, yeah. Like with delicacy. The doors are wide up there, you know. Yeah. The haggis that we eat. JCIS, also a sponsor. The Global Research and Brand Consultant at the Sea from South London. That's jc-is.com. And... I will. You won. You said visit JCIS. Crying out. I will, yeah. They're mine. Actually, before we meet, I just... I just think about what Streety said there. He's a rational diatribe about changing the theme music. Ludicrous. It's got no scientific basically logic whatsoever. But if you were to change it back and we win the next two games, that means Rob has to host the rest of the pod for the rest of the season. So that means you don't have to spend any time in J.D. Yeah, because Alice will still win. Yeah. That'll be the magic form. That'll be... That was the downside. The old music. No, there's no doubt about that. He's Scottish accent is the downside. But you have to have the doors wide in there as well. He has Scottish shoulders. He's in political Scottish accent. What you don't realise is we have a sorry voice to kind of voice over the bits that I actually say. Because we're our dog, don't you? He's very... No, it's a bit racist. That's a bit racist. And my dad's Scottish accent. I say what I like. That's some of my best mates I've lost. Yeah. I bet your dad, he talks about you doing so... I don't think you haven't met my dad. Didn't he change your gig, didn't he? No, I don't think so. Oh, who's I talking to then? Oh, my God. That figures. Normally people's mum's have got a bad record with this. I don't know. We've got any questions. Well, very quickly, J.D. also wants me to mention the T-shirts. Because we've got... We've seen them a lot of T-shirts left. Really cool T-shirts that are for sale. One with the FYP logo, another one with J.C. Not J.C. I.S. Vector printing's logo. Well, I said that I'm going to get a bit of the image of J.C.I.S. T-shirts. They just shake it up, so... They would really, yep. And they're available for Cushion. Cushion.com, I think, forward slash FYP fans in, I think, maybe. Or something like that. I'll podcast something like that. It's T-shirt monster, so yeah. T-shirt monster. We'll probably tweet it out. You really are evoking J.D.'s lackadaisical style. Quite perfectly, yeah. I'm quite impressed. I usually have notes in front of me that are very specific. In this case, I'm kind of going off the top of my head. Anyway, we're going to go to questions. You're not going to go and turn off the top of your head, are you? No, I'm not. Give me one second. I've got them on a screenshot. Oh, no. Okay. And if I ask questions... Oh, they actually exist. You can see them this time. Yeah, there they are. And can you not do that thing that J.D. says, which is thank you for your questions. I'm sorry I didn't get to read them out. Enjoy the game. Yeah. Have you noticed that? Everyone says enjoy the game. Enjoy the game. Oh, no. I'm thinking when I'm being told to enjoy the game. Number one, bit preachy. Yeah. If I want to sit there being miserable, then I will. Yeah. And number two, have you guys not seen Palace recently? Are you sitting outside when you're saying enjoy the game? In my head when I hear that, I think now I'm not going to enjoy the game because he told me to. Yeah, exactly. You're not the boss of me. Yeah. Also, where does enjoyment go anything to do with? It's not enjoyable. It's not enjoyable to football. What was it? We've lost. We've not. We've only won how many games at home this season? I don't. I don't want to think about it. I just can't even come up with it. Anyway. You're in my life, that's like that. Oh. The joy of the game. It's 1972. Shut the game up. No. Anyway. One of the first game I saw was pretty much it. Jack Pierce. Hi, Jack. Hi, Jack. He's one of our regular contributors. He's asking, "Yo, hankabai for 10 million, or Golo Cantay, less the city for 6 million. Does our recruitment scouting need a proper look at?" I'm wondering if he was reading my slightly pissed up tweets on Saturday evening. I made the point not detracting from how good a footballer, Yo, hankabai, is because he is fantastic and not detracting from some of the good performances he's had for us. Was 10 million pounds in a fee for a 29 now 30-year-old midfielder in a position where we already had James MacArthur and there are the FFP restrictions that we spoke about at some length last week in place and you're paying him 100 grand a week, or they're about 90 or 100, whatever. Over 4 million per year. Was that the best allocation of resources when there were other positions in the squad that needed upgrading probably a little bit more readily? When you could, as you say, go into the market and find a cantayoube, probably half the amount in wages and a far smaller sum. I think it was one of those signings that affected me. It was all about making a statement and it was all about basically demonstrating that we are a big club now and sometimes when clubs make signings of that ilk and I'm thinking man united with Falcao and Di Maria when they wanted to, again, establish that they were still one of the preeminent clubs in Europe and wanted to put a stake in the ground. Sometimes those signings don't come off quite as much as you expect them to even though that player might be brilliant. Angel Di Maria is still a fantastic footballer. Yo, hankabai is a fantastic footballer. But it doesn't mean that it's necessarily the right fit or the right allocation of resources at the right time. I'm not convinced that it was the most prudent signing to make. And that is retrospective and people called me up on it on Twitter. They said, well, I bet you weren't saying that in August. No, I wasn't saying that in August. I was excited as everyone was. But that doesn't mean it was a good decision in the first place. And frankly, I'm not in charge of transfers or we'd spend it all on vinyl records. I think we are being a bit unfair in hindsight, to be honest, because we were very excited about him at the time and we talked about as well about Scott Dan saying one of the reasons he stayed on the side of the new contracts, which is because players like Kabai came in. The fact is that we did need cover in other positions, but 10 million quid shouldn't have been our one, you know, we could afford other players. I think Kabai was a really good player at the time. No, I knew Kanto was going to turn out to be as good as he is. He's had one brilliant season. We may not hear from him again. Mares was scouting around the hole in the Premier League via video. And eventually came for 400,000 quid. No one knew that he would have a free season out of the Blues. I just thought he was playing for Fleetwood three years ago. No one knew that he would turn into the player he did for maybe one season. You just can't tell at the time when you buy these players. You don't know. It's like when we buy Balasci. Harry Kane, for example, he was a mill and they hated him. He's one of those players that are not achieving, I think. Harry Kane went all over the place. Balasci is one of those people who went all over the place. No one was particularly excited when we bought him and he turned into one of the best players we've had to see. So hindsight is a wonderful thing. It's a 2020 vision to you. I think in the end, I'd still rather have Kebai in my team than Kantane going forward. But it's just, you know, no one knew that Kantane was going to be that good. Less to kind of, I think, lucked out a little bit with the players. Less to have had all sorts of things going for them. Lack of suspensions, lack of injuries. If we'd had the same thing, we would be saying, "Well, I brilliant by Kebai." Was Kebai is a genuinely top-class footballer. The fact is, being two of them got into... in the last couple of years, you're going to probably need to kind of build something around, I guess. Well, I mean, I would hope that it will become less of an issue because we'll limp over the line to safety in the summer. The regulations that I was making in brief there in that we spoke about last week will probably, I reckon, be loosened in the summer anyway. So there won't be quite a restriction. When he was signed, it was kind of to a certain extent putting your ex in one basket. The one thing we need to put this team onto next level is that player in that position of a certain quality. He is a quality-quality footballer. I don't think that should ever be in doubt. I think a lot of people go, "What's you done? What's you brought to the team?" That is not the point whatsoever. I think once we've limped over the line and we've been able to hopefully bring in some of the reinforcements in the summer that we need, particularly give them that there'll be some who are out of contract going out and taking a fair amount of the chunk out of the wage-builder allowed to be spent elsewhere, then we'll perhaps see the real quality that he has. He looked better when everyone was fit because he had some better players around him to feed with the ball and to find their runs off. He looked far better when Balassie was in the team, for example. We weren't having this conversation when he had the most intercepts in the Premier League, second most tackles in the Premier League. After the West Brom game, we were saying, "What a brilliant player." If Cante was playing for us, he wouldn't be saying he's the best player in the season. It's like Dick Echoy came up with a brilliant reputation, didn't quite work out. Cante has found himself in a team that's freakishly playing out of its skin and has had every single thing going in its favour. It's unfair to compare them, but I kind of couldn't attract any other sort of players as part of their problem. There was such a basket-case last season, let's look around for players that somebody else wasn't looking at. That doesn't mean to say that I think we've got a brilliant scouting and recruitment system. We haven't yet because we're playing catch-up because Simon Jordan didn't believe in that sort of thing. We didn't want to spend money on that, and rightly so probably put more money into the academy than on a national and international scouting system. We are probably behind other clubs in finding players like that. I think it's unfair to criticise because Leicester have ended up with a player that has had a really good season by hasn't been as visible, and that's part of the problem. Again, we've always talked about it. A lot of people thought goodbye was going to be a number ten or a creative midfield player. And hasn't been, so you just can't, you know, there are different sort of players. It's not the same sort of defensive midfield player as Cante. Dan McKinnon. Hi, Dan. Good question. It was a good question. Yeah, enjoy the game. Dan McKinnon had a 12 league game. He asked, with 12 games remaining in the league, how many points do you think will have by the end of the season? I think it's going to be probably a depressing 42. 42. I don't think fewer than we probably predicted when we were fifth. We will say at the end of the season, I imagine, well, at the start of the season, we would have been happy with this. We probably won't be, but enough, I think, is the answer. We'll pick up. The good thing is, we're bottom of the form table at the moment. That's not the good thing. The good thing, though, is that four of the other bottom six in the form table are the bottom four in the Premier League at the moment. So, you know, we are going to limp over that line, but it is going to be a limp. We'll pick up a couple of unexpected. Well, again, I'm not sure. I suspect that when the sun is shining a little bit, we will look back on this period and go on an awful middle third of the season we had, but things didn't turn out too badly in the end. I think 42, 43 is all right. At the moment, that's what I'll take. There are things in the future that need to be addressed about. The season ticket prices have been announced this week. That's something that needs to be sorted out because the home form really has to be sorted out. I know we've sold 17,000 season tickets already, but if I'm freelance, my wife's freelance, we can go through periods where we don't get paid for quite some time. If I was short of money when I was buying a season ticket, I'd wonder whether it's going to be a good value because at the moment, it's a bit like paying 40 quick to go to the theatre to see a play that you've seen before that you didn't like. So, you know, it's got an unhappy ending and going to see it week after week because then why would you buy a season ticket when you think, well, we're going to win five games at Sellers Park? It's not enough to, you know, season ticket prices and ticket prices have been in the news for the last two weeks, and as it happens, palaces are manageable certainly for a London team. I don't think the club takes a piss out of us for ticket prices at all, but why would you buy a season ticket? Our loyalty is relied upon all the time. It's assumed. This would be, we kind of have a fourth season of terrible home form because this is the third season we've had where our home form has been shocking. And why would you pay that amount of money when you're turning up to watch something that you're probably going to be unhappy at the end of it? It's not enough to say you're watching your heroes play. It's got to be, that really has got to be resolved the home form. And in terms of, in the end, especially with the new American investors, it's only a threat to the commercial side that will make something happen, but it's got to happen in terms of that home form because otherwise we'll be here this time next season having exactly the same conversation, but possibly we'd better play. It's a cycle that needs to be broken that I don't know how to break it as I'm not a coach or a manager, but it's got to be, the home form has got to be resolved, it's got to be. We can't keep relying on our away form because that will get seen through as it is increasingly. We've got another question. Dan R, asks, "Why is Hennessy not controlling his area and more influential in the box?" She's not a very good goalkeeper. He's a goalkeeper at six foot four. You have to claim the ball in the air. He doesn't really gain quick enough, his feet aren't quick enough, and he's not got good enough handling, so I think a combination of that and there's lack of confidence in coming to claim the ball. He's dropped it a few times this season. On the very little press, he did say at Swansea when there was no one around him, and he did say at Watford, and he's done it a few times. I don't think he's the sort of goalkeeper that probably put his thought he was when he first signed him. I know he's the sort of goalkeeper that his frame would necessarily suggest. We've got to deal with it now. Unless you're going to put in McCarthy for the rest of season, just say singles for him, we're probably going to see Hennessy there for the rest of season. I suppose we've just got to suck it up and deal with the fact that he's not going to command his area particularly well, and he's not going to take any pressure off the defense, which to be fair and to his credits, we're only starting to do last season. He's starting to come and claim high balls. It'd be very much higher in mouth-type moment occasionally, because he'd come flying out like a leaping salmon at times, trying to claim the ball, and didn't always do so effectively, but he would put in an effort to do so. We're not going to get that with Hennessy. I think it's also worth mentioning the throwout that Hennessy tried to perform to Swire, which actually led to Swire committing that holiday. I think we should try and be fair to Hennessy. He's affected by the same lack of confidence. His distribution, without a doubt his distribution is weird at the moment, because he's persistently trying to throw the ball out where it shouldn't be thrown out, and that's one of those things he'd go right. That was rushed to the one to Swire, it was a complete mess. His confidence is strong. He's Wales number one goal. He was clearly a good goal kit. With the start of the season, him commanding the box wasn't an issue, because we were stopping crosses at Source, and Dan and Delaney would deal with most crosses that did come in. But I don't think I've seen him claim it. Did he claim a cross against Watford? I can't remember if he did. He got caught under the flight of the one that he then had to save. To his credit, there's nothing you can do on either those goals for Watford. I've never had any confidence that you get anywhere near a penalty, because you're just kind of in the back of my mind. But you can really blame him for not getting to a penalty, and the second one, Delaney smashes it in. He makes a small save in the first half of the second half of his feet down and down like. I think it's quibbling, perhaps a little bit too much to have a real gut hit about. It's probably a bit hard to criticise him after this. But Liverpool, you know, to look at him in that much detail. Liverpool fans are in the same conversation about Mignalade. He is a Premier League goalkeeper. He's not top draw Premier League. He's an international goalkeeper. He'll be at the Euros. But he's suffering from the same lack of confidence. They're all suffering from it. It'll be interesting to see what he does with Swarrae out. Swarrae may only be out for the Cup game, presumably, but where he puts Marry Aperin, where he could play left that, where he puts Ward left that, Kelly right back, has happened last season. I don't know. It might be that a change in the back four will do them all, but I really don't know the answer to that. I suspect Hennessy won't be out first to us goalkeeper next season. I suspect as I suspect Delaney won't be out first to us in the back next season, she hadn't certainly won't be first to us midfield. Well, I know some people disagreed when we said that we thought Rob Green would have been an upgrade. That's, you know, that's an opinion one way or the other. I can see why people would argue it either way, but it did show that at the very least the club was looking to, or part due, or whoever was looking to bring in a new goalkeeper. So you'd be incredibly surprised if that wasn't continued in the summer, and they didn't try to bring in someone else. I didn't think Rob Green would be an upgrade. What I said was, I thought he would be an upgrade. I don't think they were buying him to be on the bench. I think they were trying to get him to be first to us goalkeeper. So, yeah, without a doubt, he would be amazed if we didn't have two goalkeepers brought in next season. Yeah. Let's have a look. So what another question is, has the time come to sell Jeddonack? Who's that from? We can't answer the question. Sorry, that's from Martin. It could be some John Martin. Yeah, it could be a chance. We can't answer the question. So he's on Twitter at the Shepard's dog? Oh, that Martin, that's fine. Has the time come to sell Jeddonack presumably to China, maybe throwing in Campbell as a gift with purchase? I'm just not sure that you have to try and Campbell. He's linked with one of the Dubai clubs, one of the Middle East clubs. Apparently after Jeddonack. From Jeddonack's personal point of view, he'd make a lot of sense for him to be closer to Australia in terms of his travelling for international games, because I think he'll probably play for Australia for a while yet. I mean, it's awful to say, I hate saying this about any Palace player, let alone one that's been such a good player for us and it's such a decent bloke and it's such a nice fellow, but yeah, it is time. If the transfer window is open now, we're trying to say, it's just quick. Yeah, I mean, I don't care whether he says whatever happens, he can't start a midfield mix. And I really, I take no joy in saying that, but he simply can't. We just need to, we need energy and freshness and legs and creativity. I suppose the things are says that he is very much, I'd say probably, you know, fourth, fifth choice there. We're not the fact that we're shuffling everyone around. You'd be having probably much play somewhere a little bit. We're missing MacArthur, these are two central midfielders who would normally probably be... But he does look like an accident waiting to happen at the moment, Jeddonack. And he does, like, the one thing, yeah, he was never brilliant on the ball, but the one thing that he did have in that first season and half in the premiership was Premier League, sorry, was that his sort of skills of anticipation and knowing how to read the game were pretty top notch, actually. The reason he made so many interceptions and so he's happened was because he was up with the pace of the game. Once he got the ball, he wasn't, perhaps, quick enough thinking to be able to then move on, but I think the off the ball thing is now he starts to slow down. But would you say that that comes with sharpness, because to be fair to Jeddonack, it was quite a bit of time in the first team and, you know, he went from being a promoted side then playing in the first season and then he pretty much played the whole of the second season. Well, we talked about this earlier in the pod, didn't we? With all the travel he's done and the injuries he's had. And there was a time when he used to be picked out by pundits because he never went to ground. His tackling was brilliant, he never went to ground. There was always an issue with, and I think Pardew was quite open about this, there was an issue, the fact he wasn't there when Pardew took over, and then he got sent off against West Ham. I mean, Pardew always felt that he slowed things down because Pardew wants the ball moved quicker, and if it got to Jeddonack, it stopped. All that stuff about fitness, pace, is understandable, forgiveable. What is lost? He used to have this enormous presence, Jeddonack. He was the one on the pitch that the players, the other players looked to, and he was never the best player on the pitch without a doubt. But he stood out. It's a weird thing to say to me, he doesn't look as tall as he used to look. He doesn't look as physical. He was the one that went to the referee all the time, and we saw a little bit of that against Bournemouth when Zaha got booked for diving, and Jeddonack was in there. But Jeddonack would be the one who stood over our players when they were injured, who went head-to-head with the people who had failed us. That presence seems to have gone, and that's what you can't get back, and that's something indefinable. I mean, indefinable. Other Premier League fans would say, "Why have you got Jeddonack? What's he doing?" He'd say, "We have to watch him week in week out." And he had something indefinable, and that's gone. That leadership quality is gone, and it's almost sad to watch it in a way. Just very quickly to kind of morph this into another question, just because I think it can kind of cover both. Stuart Norris asks, "If you had to pick three players in a squad to sound replace in the summer, who would they be?" I don't sell you. Well, Jeddonack is probably Jeddonack. Well, Andy, you were about to say something about Jeddonack before. Well, I mean, I'm so rude. Well, I was just going to say that the thing is, you know, you get different players in different positions, peaking at different ages, and just because of the very nature of how he used to play, Jeddonack isn't actually that old, you know, he's not 32 yet. But his game just always relied on such a high intensity of energy and such a sort of mobility really in some ways. He was never sort of super fast, but it was very much a destructive type game that perhaps his peak was at the age of sort of 28. And I think because of that, you know, the thing, yeah, perhaps maybe sort of two or three games down the line will do what we do as a sort of matter of course on this podcast, and we can't completely, can't be whatever's saying that he looks very sharp now. And he's probably going to have enough games now given the injuries all over the place to try and play himself into a bit of sharpness. But I'd be surprised where he not to be one of those that is looked to be moved on. In terms of that question, I think, you know, if we're going to try and progress at this level, Fraser Campbell isn't a Premier League striker by any stretch of imagination. I think there's probably some mileage to try and sell him, but not at the sort of ridiculous price that has been moved about him in the January transfer window. I'd be incredibly surprised where he not to be. And he's young enough as well that you would have thought some club somewhere will be interested in him. You ought to think about players that are going to be coveted by other teams to a certain extent, and I suppose the only other one who is going to be really within that sweet spot of palace, not necessarily perhaps wanting them anymore and being coveted by some other teams is probably Dwight Galligan. You know, there will be other teams who are willing to pay a bit of money for him. I think he probably isn't all that of... I'm not going to, you know, impute or sort of infer how happy he is, but, you know, he's not playing football all that regularly even when fit on the paths. You say, I'd be surprised if he's not a little bit annoyed with that, and he's going to have a little bit of reach out of value still, so I'd probably say him as the third for me. I'd be the happiest person, like, if GenNet was to have a summer off and come back fit and firing, I'd be delighted, but I'd rather not see it in terms of who to get rid of, who you bring in. I don't really care who they offload in terms of wage bill, but we know where we need to improve. We know we need cover at full back, both full backs probably sent the back, so that's three players you need to be. We know we need a creative sentiment field player, maybe another defensive on stats five, and a strike, so that's six, so the question is not... And a goalkeeper. And a goalkeeper, seven, is the question... Well, if we want to stabilise and move on, the question is not who we get rid of, the question is who we bring in, and I think we are six or seven players short. If we're talking about, you know, being in West Brom and retaining our place in the Premier League every season, in 15th or 16th, then we need to replace three players, and we're talking about getting up to eight wherever to not, or should be, then we need to replace six or seven. It's as simple as that. And I don't really care who goes to facilitate that, because none of them have left us down deliberately. They're all playing to the utmost. There's no one you could say isn't playing 100%. Some of them are good enough, but that's not their fault, as the street has already said, always said about Fraser Campbell. It's not necessary his fault, but we need fresher, more vibrant players. We need cover in a lot of positions, and the things I can't see, it's all about players to get rid of. I can't see a lot of... I'm not going to get a lot of money for players we've got. Most of them, you'd think, would go to championship clubs rather than Premier League clubs. Gay always the big mystery, because he could have gone from what we gather. He could have gone to two or three clubs in the transfer window and a club. Very adamantly he wasn't going, which makes you wonder why he's not getting closer to the first team, because he probably would have gone... I can understand the logic, because apparently Leicester are after him, Norwich are after him, Swansea are after him, and we probably could have got £5 or £6 million for what I can gather. I can understand the logic of saying, well, we're not going to sell him to teams in a rounder's, in the relegation struggle, for one of the better word, but I don't think it's as simple as that. He's not that good a player, but you assume they keep him because he's part of his plans, but it doesn't seem to be, but it constantly amazes me, because I still think he could score goals. I think some combination of Wicca, Maddie Bail, Gayle, Balassie, Zaha... There's got to be goals in there somewhere surely, didn't there? They're players that you would imagine at any level would be scoring goals, but the big problem for me is next season is going to be sent back, and we need to in midfield players. MacArthur coming back could be one of them, but we need some creativity in midfield, as simple as that. Very final question from Dr. Wake Stevens on Twitter. Hi, Doctor. Is that as in the Democratic Republic of? No, it's not Doctor as in the long ago. I'm not heard of the Democratic Republic of Wicca. Yeah, Doctor of the Democratic Republic of the Wake. Could be, somewhere? He asks, would you rather crash out of the cup or just a chance of a fresher team, as in go with some young players and try... We're not going to... the FA have made it quite clear that they don't want us to Wembley by consistently rigging the draw to make sure that we get Premier League teams, and, you know, I still... I'm going to say this until they sue me, until they take me to court, it's rigged the FA Cup draw. You can't simply keep giving Arsenal teams below them at home. It's a card... I hope the... The Emirates Cup... Yeah, Emirates FA Cup. If they're not listening to this and you know them, send it on to them. The FA Cup draw is rigged to make sure that we can't win it. Working on that basis, then let's not worry about it. Okay. And, as I said earlier on, I would, yeah, give... Yeah, play-boating, play-gale, give... yeah, Tottenham are in such good form at the moment. Well, actually, I wouldn't put it past Palace. We're such a perverse team. I wouldn't put it past any boy altogether and score a hat-trick. But I really won't... I don't really don't care what happens. And, in a way, I almost wish we were at the Cup of Rudy, so we could have a proper two weeks. It's nice, though, isn't it going... One of the first matches that I've had in a long, long while, where I'm going there on Saturday. Zero expectation. Well, you've got... Genuinely zero. Like, the last time I can remember going along thinking... If you go this Saturday, it'd be very zero. Oh, Sunday, isn't it? Yeah. Well, I'm getting there early. No, you don't tell me. It's just on Sunday. I'm just going there early. Zero expectations. But, yeah, you know, I suppose I'm going to be riding on the quest of a wave in terms of, like, Premier League sentiment after beating Man City. They've got the Europa League. If there's probably one thing they wouldn't mind that much this season, given they are genuine in the hunt now for the Premier League title, they probably won't care as much about the Cup as us. So, there's a chance. The thing is, there's no point. I think the last thing that Pargy will want is a draw and another game that sell us part for us to lose in front of a race. But he's also going to want to go into it with winning at it. You know, he's going to try and approach it. Well, they're going to take it seriously. But I do think it's an ideal chance to maybe give boating a run out. Presumably, Mary Aperit, left back. I don't know. Why not give Go the two? I don't. It'll be interesting to see how both teams approach it. But I think the fact that we haven't got a league game this week, there's no Premier League. I think that actually probably really helps us, in terms of Balassie's fitness, in terms of just giving us a chance to regroup. I know they're going away for a couple of days to see what happens. It might be that we get a really good positive result against Tottenham that then feeds into the lose, although it didn't happen against Stoke. We all thought that Stoke result might be, you know... The Southampton result. Yeah, but it... Yeah, maybe we do what we can do when the Cup and stay up, you don't know. Let's round it off there. Join us in part three for the... Do we do part three on this day? We do, yeah. So join us in part three. Yeah. Thanks for the question. Show the working. That's always good. It's like behind the red button. Join us in part three. Welcome back to the FYP podcast. Thank you. And we're now in part three. After that. Ultra extended part two, I think. It seemed to be a little bit stressed out. No, that was certainly shorter than last week when Streetie did his 29-minute... Of course he explained what was going on around the world. I reckon plenty of the listeners won't have woken up yet, frankly. Seemingly, some of them didn't listen either, because there have been lots of questions as well about finances. Brilliant. That's nice. Okay, I can answer them again. We've done the questions. He's a confidence builder, isn't he? Oh, yeah. Great. I tell you what, all the people who asked questions about fire, down like 1.6.8 and stop bloody sending questions. They didn't ask questions. I mean, the people who have made comments on Twitter about, oh, well, you know, if only Parrish had spent more money in the window. Well, listen to 1.6.8 to 1.6.8. It's still, having said that, I mean, it was really interesting what you said last week, but it's still hard to come to terms with what it seems to be. What we were told is a world-run financially secure club that suddenly... I can understand why some fans think this might be an excuse. It's been sort of crowbarred in from somewhere that... The system seems a bit rigged, though, when you end up with clubs that have huge stadiums that... Okay, it's as rigged as the FA Cup draw. We've had a Premier League. It's, of course, the Premier League is corrupt in the same way the FA are. Brilliant. Leicester won't be there to win it. They all get really assassinations. I don't know, I can't stand it. Lester and Bournemouth. I keep doing radio shows and other people's general football pods and stuff. Isn't it brilliant, Lester, don't I? I'm the only one who goes, "No!" Can't abide in cheesy little snidey or Steve Clarity little... Speaking of players that were accused of being diving cheats... Is it in this week? It is in this week. Oh, this is what happened a while ago, isn't it? Well, back in, actually, it was back in 2003. Andy Johnson then. Correct. He scored his 18th goal in 16 games. I can't do it. With a first half hat trick against Stoke as Palace 163 in that fixture. Oh, valence of my day, massacre. I seem to remember even Michael Hughes scored like... Michael Hughes scored a great goal that day where Wayne Rowley's the little pirouette... Championship. ...on the ball, win the championship still. I can't remember that at all, 6-3. That wasn't the bounce back, Michael Hughes's goal was beautiful. The one way flicked it. That wasn't the bounce back ability game, was it? No. No, I don't need to say that. Well... I need to stop drinking as much before games. How did you deal with the strike time? Well, Andy Johnson didn't dive, by the way. He maximised his falling opportunities. I haven't mentioned this actually. He filled the contacts a lot. Jamie Varley did just him. I haven't mentioned this. I'm going to get in trouble with JD as well because I didn't do the whole JCIS thing. No, we don't have to. Victor, when you can't go to the JCIS. I will, I will, yeah. I will, yeah, I will, yeah. I have been working hard on playing as much money to play. Speaking of Andy Johnson, because he's such a huge figure, he's not, but he's going to be playing for Palace in the Robert Eta Memorial Fund game at the Amex, which will take place in May, I believe. You're not taking JD's place. As JD will be furious at a proper football game. But he's rather wonderfully agreed to play. That's brilliant. Which is a great reason to get down. It's a measure of, I think, Andy, one of the reasons Andy Johnson was so popular at the club is not just because of his abilities and his attitude, but because of the pitch. He was one of those players that was, like Julian, is now, he was only too happy to take part and help out. And new his responsibility to the community as a football player. Also, I know it's a great carrot event, but I really hope that it takes it incredibly seriously. And just goes all out to try and score eight goals. Yeah. Like eight goals. Yeah, great. Yeah, it is a really brilliant event. And it's wonderful that two football teams who hate each other get together to raise money for a very important event, but I'm fed up losing that game as well. Yeah. Basically. I don't even watch it. And I'm still annoyed at these. So, Andy Johnson could score some goals and maybe hurt a couple of people. I'll be there. It's a great charity. It's a great charity. It's a great charity. They do all sorts of great stuff in London as well. They've donated to clubs in and around Selhas Park, youth initiatives and so on. So, if you can, please, please get down there. It's a fantastic event. But Andy Johnson, though, it's a classic example of, you talk about penalties and referees and whatever. He was in the box. How much, you know, he didn't do his defensive. It was fun. If you're always trying to take people on, if you're always looking to get on the end of 60-40 balls, you're going to get fouls. You're going to get the free kicks. You're going to get the penalties. And inevitably, other teams, fans, 40s, a diver. But, you know, the Jamie Vardy thing yesterday was a classic example. It wasn't a penalty. But, you'd be a furious if your player didn't do the same thing. And that's what the sort of thing Andy Johnson was really good at. The sort of thing the liquid was really good at. Making a defender look like he'd fouled you. And so, Andy Vardy did that brilliantly yesterday. I'm furious that I gained 13 years ago. That's ridiculous. He's got a Michael Hughes. He was a really good player for a while. He was a captain. He must have been at one point. He was a little one. Going from a... Dowie? Dowie, of course. Going from Palace Hero to someone who's a little bit less popular. No, not quite. He wasn't a player. This was back in 1981. Ron knows again, is it? It is. It always is. And it was actually the transition of one chairman to another. Is it? But, Raymond Bloy. Yeah, correct. You're fissionting about Raymond Bloy. On this day, sorry, Tuesday 17th of February, which would have been tomorrow. What, sold to Ron? He would have officially stepped down as the Crystal Palace chairman. And walked across the Sainsbury's car park with the... He was duly elected to... Why you're all barrow full of cash? That's right. That's right. You can't defend the dead. That was valuable. And then, just a day later, this is... It's ironic because the last time I hosted the podcast, these were the pages that I was supposed to read. Oh! So on this day... I thought I'd run a bill. Just a day later on the Wednesday 18th, he run notes stated publicly that he had killed off the idea of ground sharing with Wimbledon. Yeah. Which, I mean, it's... And then what happened? He ended up doing it anyway, didn't he? Well, yeah. Erm... Er... What else can we find? Oh, sorry. I'll just be just bringing about somebody having happy memories now. It's all up for you. Like, you were kids at the time. Some of us were growing up adults. Let's see. You've been kids in 1981. How old did Haggard do I look to you? I was born to 1984, you bastard. It wouldn't even twinkles in your peritone, look. A bit of a focus. You know when I was when it was like, you weren't there. You weren't there, man. It started even bridge. We're gonna have one more whole life. You'll be like this in 25 years time. This is quite a 25 minutes in time. I thought I'd have more control over the podcast. I was trying to just run at least. Right. Tuesday the 15th... Well, it's always the sale of a supply to each other, I'm afraid. You watch yourself. Erm... After school detention anyway. Tuesday 15th February 1967. Oh, it's more like it. Erm... Johnny Byrne. Mmm. Return to Crystal Palace from West Ham for £45,000. £45,000? Erm... Erm... Yeah, and it was Bert Head who negotiated the deal with the former England man. So what you're saying is, "Yo, Hank, goodbye." Now, earns enough in probably three days to pay for Johnny Byrne's transfer fee. Correct. It was 1967. I mean, there were times where... It's funny. That's... It was one of those meanest stats. Do you know how they ended up doing the deal? They were on the same train back as West Ham Palace were. And Bert Head decided to negotiate a contract with him at that point. That was probably actually illegal, even in it. It probably was tapping up with the sounds dodges, isn't it? Yeah, but it's just how quaint that sounds. They're both on the same train. The way fans would have been on it as well. But it seems to have to have been... It's not that long ago in the scheme of things. And Raymond Bloy was chairman for... What, 15? Much like... Those days when the local tradesmen was like chairman of your club forever. And the managers stayed forever, no matter what. The managers just didn't get sent to those days. And Bert Head was... Bert Head was probably only about 35. It looked 70, but... What? I've now... I've gone. You've lost me. I've come back. I'm in the TARDIS. I'm watching Telly on the black... I'm watching football on the black and white Telly now. Oh. I saw childhood. You can't tell which. We've got the white shorts on this one. That's all right. I will bring that kick back one day when I'm running the club. What the... You've got to let it go. No. Every one of the... No. It's been on 167 podcasts now. You brought up that you're bringing back the current break. It's not coming back, man. You keep referring to the news. It's coming back if I'm running the club. And Jerry Murphy's going to be a kickman. With the thin stripes. We're talking the Steve Kemba one. Steve Kemba. Yeah, with the yellow trim. Yeah. That was nice. I did like that. Yeah, it was lovely. Yeah, I'd go back to that as well. Oh, there you go. Screw you, Street. Got a petition guy and he's the best host we've had. There you go. Thank you. Join us in part four where we'll cover the Spurs game. And welcome back to the FYP podcast. Hi. Brought to you by JCIS and vector printing. Yeah. I will. All right. Enjoy the game. Yeah. It's not still doing the crazy. Well, God knows. Anyways, we're moving on to the Spurs game. Quite an interesting one coming up. Isn't it? I guess FA Cup. All that fun. Does it matter? Do you think it matters to you that we win the FA Cup game? Or are we going to be focusing? Is it more important to focus on the league? I hate to say this to somebody of my advanced years. A generation that grew up venerating the FA Cup. I'm not even flying monkeys about anymore. The FA was, I think, we clearly ascertained our corrupt. Along with the Premier League and Arsenal. The FA and the BBC have contrived to destroy the FA Cup as well as our concerned. The fact that you've got eight games this weekend between Friday and Sunday. The draw during the one show with some bored clowns and Tracy Elman on Monday night. It's one of those games. If we were to win it, you'd go fantastic on a quarter of time. I really generally don't care. What I won is that we come out of it without any more injuries or red cards. I kind of hope Addie by all doesn't start. As I know, it will be important to him. But I just have this image of him trying to prove himself, trying too hard. He's not fit enough yet. I can just see him wanting to be top dog show and Tottenham fans and Pochatina. What they're missing, injuring himself, getting the yellow card, getting the red card. I'll be interested to see how seriously we take it. I think Pochatina has always said he'll play a full team as much as possible. I just think it's one of those games. Will that be a mistake? There's a bonus in that. I don't think he'll play Mario Epper. I think he'll play Ward left back and Kelly right back. We might have to defend properly rather than bomb forward, which we can't do. But my only hope for this game is that we come out of it with everybody fitting ready and another rested for the West Brom game. Andy, do you think that it could give us the boost? I mean, we talked about Swansea and the Southampton game and the Stoke game, all these different opportunities where it might give us the lift. But do you think a win against Tottenham could actually give us a boost? I think it's a bonus game for Palace because we're not expected to get anything there. And if we lose in the FA Cup, I think much as we'd all love it to be what it was as a competition, people don't care quite as much. But because Spurs are that high caliber of opposition as opposed to a Southampton or a Stoke who we've had previously in the Cup and done well against. I think if we go to White Art Lane where they've done particularly well this season, against the team we've been in just in serious form and looked very, very good with it this season, I think the players couldn't help but be buoyed by that. And you would hope that even though we thought exactly the same would happen in the Swansea game after getting a draw there and we thought the same would happen after beating Southampton and after beating Stowe, you would have thought that beating a tight team that's in with a real, real shot of the title at their home ground in the FA Cup, which is a distinct possibility. Given there'll be a little bit distracted by that and given they've got the Europa League just before, you'd hope that the players really would be buoyed by that. I still love the FA Cup. I want us to win every match that we ever play frankly and this will be no different. I've nearly turned up 24 hours earlier than I was at this ice league. I had no idea it was somewhere until I did this pod. But anything can happen. A couple of notes are ridiculous, cliche, but the players won't be as inhibited as they have been with the league form. They've shown that already in the two games against Southampton and Stoke in his hope. Yeah, I'd get a bit more hot. Oh, really, of course, I really want us to win it and I hope we go there and you hope that Tottenham have taken an eye off the ball a little bit and will be a bit complacent. They only beat us one day when the league had a white heart lane on a day where everybody admitted we weren't our best and we still restricted them to a 1-0 win. We had chances that their goal was a mistake by McCarthy as I recall. We're a Premier League team. We deserve to be rated highly against the Premier League team. I think our streak has really no disgrace if we lose them. But I just don't think it's worth taking a risk with certain players. They're talking about Blassie getting back to Fitness this week. I don't think it's - don't let him anywhere near that game. And I worry that if you put Addie Boyer there and Addie Boyer was a volatile, proud character who will be looking to, as I say, show Tottenham and Levy what they're missing. Why take the risk of him trying too hard getting - the focus has got to be the league now. If we had 42-44 points, I'd say, yeah, go for it. If the TV money wasn't available in its season, I'd probably say go for it. But the fact is, I hate myself for saying it on a purely commercial survival level. The important thing is that we're in the Premier League in its season. If we were to win the FA Cup, and Addie Boyer was to score his tenth goal in a minute, I'd be - of course I would. I'd be swimming Nate at the Cos4 and he'd pond with a happy smile on my face. But I just - scraping the concrete - scraping the concrete and moving the police legislation side and keeping the women away from me because they'd have to be so excited because I'm like, especially the elders. The reason these two are laughing is because Missy's day just turned around with a massive eyebrows nearly touching the ceiling. She's a woman of a certain age now. I hate myself for saying it about the FA Cup because I'm of that generation that does love the effect. Of course it does. I grew up with the magic of it. That magic's gone as far as I'm concerned, and I - it's one of those rare games. We have of course the one palace to win, but I won't be able to say it if we don't. The thing I'll be looking at is that our players come through it not on red cards and unscathed because sadly, from a purely commercial position, and again I hate saying it, we have to stay in the Premier League and that's the important thing. For me, I think that there are two things to be hopefully kind of buoyed by. Firstly, the squad have gone away to kind of perhaps recollect themselves a little bit. And then also Spurs have got a European game, which they might be tired from, which might end up having some kind of potentially lasting effect. You just don't know. Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed, yeah. It's the magic of the Cubs. Spurs end up getting injured on the Thursday night and we end up winning. Tottenham have got the best squad in the league as far as I'm concerned. Tottenham have got a really deep squad. I think the going away thing is interesting because I think, Street, you mentioned it, it's probably before the pod, but we're talking about things that break the luck. You can try all sorts of things and that going away thing might give them a bit of space. It will get them to know, because Addie Byor, when we talked about GenNAC earlier on, the one thing Addie Byor has is presence. He really has that and I think once the players get to know him and he's a proper leader out there and I think the break will help in that process and it will help velocity obviously. And it might be that a change of environment means that they sit down and sort of work it out themselves. It might be that's what they need and they'll come back refreshed. But as I say, I hate myself saying, I don't give a flying monkey. It's been perfectly honest. It's the West Brom game is the one I love the FA Cubs. I hope you like. Let's round it off on that. Thank you Kevin and Andy for both joining. As a host, I've really enjoyed it. Join us next week, I guess, for the fallout that will happen. All right, see you then. Bye guys. Bye. It's time to get your checking account to zero with free checking from PenFed. That's zero ATM fees, zero balance requirements and zero time spent waiting for your paycheck to direct deposit because you can receive it up to two days early. Open your account with just $25 and see how big zero can be. Apply online today at penfed.org/freechecking. Early direct deposit eligibility may vary between pay periods and timing of payers funding. 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