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Unless you have HubSpot's AI-powered marketing tools to help you do all that and more. Get started at HubSpot.com/marketers. My brother-in-law died suddenly, and now my sister and her kids have to sell their home. That's why I told my husband we could not put off getting life insurance any longer. An agent offered us a 10-year, $500,000 policy for nearly $50 a month. Then, we called select quote. Select quote found us identical coverage for only $19 a month, a savings of $369 a year. Whether you need a $500,000 policy or a $5 million policy, select quote could save you more than 50% on-term life insurance. For your free quote, go to select quote.com, select quote.com, select quote. We shop, you save. Call details on example policies at select quote.com/commercials. Yes, listeners, this is the five-year plan podcast. Oh dear. Yeah, it's going to be one of those, it's going to be one of those. You'll have noticed at the top that the old music is back on the pods. The reason is on the previous pod Kevin realized that we changed the music and Palace had started losing. So we've changed it back for this podcast in the hope that after this pod, you didn't do the other thing you should do in the pod on Monday. So we had the new music before the ball with a game, did you? Well, we're all too busy, aren't we? We're all too busy, aren't we? We're all too busy, aren't we? You guys are. You said the whole day get the Jimin Chesham, so we all do. Yeah. And now I've got the guns to show for it. Sorry. The porn DVD, your life. You just hang around. I wish it was. Hang around. Wait for the milson Chesham. The music is back to hopefully trying to curb this run of defeats and we've got the gang here to talk about that. In fact, let's ensue some Kevin Day. Hello. Andy Stream. Hello. And James Endicott is not here this week, but we're replacing one endicott with another endicott. Oh, no. And we're making his pod debut as Travis. Travis Endicott, how are you doing? I'm OK. I wonder what I could see some of the cheer. Well, it's a bit like, it's a bit like, I'm going to port this vector and say, you know, we can show you, Travis, you can show it you want because we've discovered he doesn't listen to it. No, either. Feel free to say what you want about your dad. It looks like we've got him. We've got James from 1989, so the 1989 endicott. Well, there's a photograph that James showed us recently when, I think he was still in the band. Or was he still in Luke? Luke, yeah. It's a spitting image of... Oh, yeah. There's a few knocking about every time we upload to one of these. Oh, my god. Is that me or is it? Yeah. It's my dad. Well, if it's, you're not talking, it's you. OK. OK, we're going to get through our sponsors, we've got lovely pod sponsors. They are JCIS, the global research and brand consultancy from South London. Visit JC-IS.com. I will. Yeah. Good. Well done. I mean, begrudgingly after this week of absolute shy play. We'll get to that. We'll get to that. And... So we're going to be perfect since they started sponsoring us. Well, no. Stop drawing cool things between Facebook and Facebook. Yeah. They've sponsored us since the start of the season when Palace for Fantastic. I'll try again. I will. Well done. Good. Vector printing for your printing embroidery needs. Go to vector.co.uk and that's Vector with us. OK. And we're going to start off the pod by reading out some competition winners because last week we announced... We saw a bloody win in something. Good. We've got two winners of... How did we draw these, by the way? Randomly on Twitter. We've got people to tweet us saying, "I love F.I.P. and Vector with a K on Twitter." Get it on the one shy. And we've got two winners of the brand new... Well, they've got a choice between either one of the brand new F.I.P. T-shirts, which I'm wearing on this very pod and we'll tweet a photo out of and the Vector with a K T-shirts. And the winners are... Can I get a drum roll or something? The winners are Nick Shepherd, who's Twitter handle is the honor gruffer, which is brilliant. And David Cheeseman, who's Twitter handle, who's Twitter handle is Cheesy Palace. Oh. So, well done. We will be in contact and we will sort out get a new F.I.P. T-shirt. So, well done to you. And from two people who have won something to a team that hasn't won anything for five games, Palace Lost at Bournemouth, we've actually had two games since last pod. We have actually won a game. Yeah, we won and played all against, don't we? Yeah. So, should we start with that or do we not start? I've done bournemouth games. It's not nearly as much fun. No, the stoke game was quite encouraging. I thought Lee played very well. I thought Fraser Campbell won his best game for us for a long time, for an hour. That's why it was good. Punch him was good. And that's sort of more of a central role than on Saturday and Wilf was very good. So, that was a role in encouraging science against the strong stoke side and then last night it happened. Well, let me ask you guys this. Why is it? So, we've lost five games on the speed and we haven't won in seven or nine, no. One in seven in the league, but we've won two other games on that one, both cup games. Why is it Andy that we seem to play with the shackles off in the cup a bit? Is it lack of pressure? Why are we okay? And then we seem to be struggling in the league. Well, that's a very, very open and broad question is that I don't think, you know, cup games are a sort of one off. You're not sort of worrying about your form. You can kind of play different combinations, put different players on the pitch. Quite often you're planning as a team who might not necessarily play a full strength side, might rest in players against you. Some teams don't play with quite the same intensity or speed or pace in the FA Cup as they do in league matches because to some teams right or wrongly, it doesn't matter quite as much. And Stoke had gone to extra time against Liverpool. Stoke had gone to extra time, you know, on a bit of a bad run themselves and also like say the shackles were off because we know the FA don't want us to win near FA Cup. So they might as well play well. See how far they get. They're not going to get to Wembley because the draws fixed so we can't win it. Unlike Arsenal, who have now had, I believe, off the top of my head this might be wrong. Thought we won out of 42, home draws against teams and lower leagues. Really? Who the sponsor boy? Oh, yeah. Point. Well, we only get teams starting with S this season in the Cup, don't we? Yeah. Premier League teams. Well, I taught them. Spurs. OK. I don't know about thought it was a good, because Stoke got a good strong side and they did pretty close to a first team travels or four, but I was actually quite encouraged going into last night's game off the back of that performance. Other than that, I think the Stoke game was players that they had out have been dangerous this season on the other pitch and just do what themselves are in the game, previously playing the 120 odd minutes, which they did against Liverpool, and the moralising losing that penalty shoot. I think they just think, can we've got to a semi-final, we proved ourselves in a Cup competition this season, they're doing OK in the league, dipping in and out, but I think they're just more concentrating more on that than they are. Well, they're talking quite seriously. I mean, the frosting of some of their tackles indicate how seriously Stoke took it. Well, this is the island tackle one. Once they realised it. Yeah. Once they realised it, Clamberg was distracted by something on the other side of the snare for half the game. Probably his head. He's always distracted going as a seller's partner, isn't he? Two. And blew the whistle early again, which ups it, Mark Hughes. Well, there is a theme of other opposition players going in tough on that. We talk about it every week, don't we, that we don't have enough protection? At the moment, every team says, when I say it to other people in pubs or offices, they will say, oh, everyone, everything, things like that, at the moment, it does seem that we've had a succession of piss poor for one of the better word refereeing performances. There was another one last night where, I don't mind referees giving the benefit of the doubt and being bossed about by the top four, do you expect that, but not a team like Bournemouth, and Wilson's getting no protection at all, goodbye must be the most physically assaulted player in the Premier League without a doubt, because, and the fact that punching ended up getting the yellow carded today, ref must know, the whole Palace team stopped. You could see, it's a shame there's no proper replays of it, but the photograph looks terrible with photos of difference, you know, with a baller's beat, it's clearly a bad tackle. For punching to get booked for that, Clannberg, the last night Jones, we'll talk about it so hard later on, but ref last night gave no protection at all to our forward players, which is basically allowed every time we went in Bournemouth's airspace we were getting. And once again, that's just a theme that I keep coming back to, once again Pardew stood with his hand in his pocket to not reacting to anything that the referee was doing, which is a complete difference to seasons before, not just the Palace, but other clubs as well, and whether that's because he wants the England job or whether he's worried about another fine, I don't know, but I think he's having an impact on the way we both, he's just being so passive at the moment, that I think that's communicating to the players slightly frustrating. It was just not to be bizarre decision from Clannberg, I know he was waving on that he had seen the guy play the ball, but it's clearly in the laws that if a tackle is using excessive or dangerous force, or reckless, or reckless, it's a foul, it shouldn't matter if you go in with the stud over the ball and you win part of the ball as you go through, it's well known that you're going to get a free kick given it against you, and rightly so, the game's so fast now and the players are so quick that if a leg is left rooted and you go through the ball and take them out of the leg and it's rooted in the ground, you've got a snap leg all on the side, so it was just a ridiculous decision from a ridiculous referee. And even more for us today, I thought could probably be played really well, and him and Punchy were really moving the ball about, and someone could buy his passing, especially because I was really good on Saturday in Bodewell for last night. Well I've said it before and I've kind of maintained it again that there should be some form of rule change, where if you're persistently fouling a specific player on the opposition side, eventually one player should take the flag for the rest of the team, tactically target in here. I quite agree. Even if it's for example on out of it, if he were playing first foul, and he goes and targets could buy when five is over two years of run sign, they're all taking turns. It's not bringing in persistent fouling on one specific opposition player. Are we, Travis, do you think Palace are too nice in a way, because Kevin's alluded to the fact that sometimes our players don't surround the referee, which you know, it can be seen as a good thing. Do you think we're a bit too nice sometimes and we get bullied by team? I think there's problems with, the main person who gets fouled the most is obviously Zara. I think there is problems sometimes with some players who might just think, because he does go to go out a bit easy sometimes, I'm not going to take that away because it's true. But I think the players sometimes feel, you don't want it to be surrounded or free, saying that you're being, your team's being fouled when it's, you're not sure whether it's actually happening and just to start surrounding referees and start to build up a reputation like Chelsea do for surrounding when players aren't even actually fouled going up and surrounding referees. It feels like what Kevin was saying earlier, pardon you, not having anything to do, you're shouting at the referee, the players aren't going to then get the confidence to go and do it. It just seems like there's a drain of everything at the moment. Yeah. I don't, I don't know. I don't want to see Palace Place trying to intimidate the referee, but it's just not. And it seems to be the passion there at the moment. It's not. We've had in previous seasons. You can see last night, when we've got booked for diving that first night, you could see I was quite close to it and he played it was all over him and you could see, yeah, we'll talk about Wolf's attitude later on, but he was angry because he got hurt and Geno had to come over and sort it out. The ref got it wrong. It's simple as that. So, and it's, it's at the moment, it's just, you know, you could argue, people will argue, maybe we got some lucky penalties in the first part of the season. I don't think we did. I don't think we did. No. But there's something lacking in the team. We're not. Well, let's talk about no bite. There's no snap. There's no. Yeah, they're okay. Let's talk about that then. There isn't because earlier in the season, whenever Palace conceded Andy, they looked like they thought it was Neil, Neil, and we start again, whereas now when they concede, they, they look beaten, even at one or last night. What's gone on? What's, what's changed? Everything is wrong in the middle of the park for me at the moment. You've got Judnack, whose legs have gone, frankly, particularly for this sort of level, albeit that he did a few okay things on the ball last night. He's just increasingly becoming less influential off the ball. You've got Joe Ledley, he looks at Shadow of his former self. To buy a MacArthur, I'm not sure he even worked together, but obviously, you know, now injured. We haven't got a single natural number 10 in that squad, either one that's in form or one that is able to sort of play there at all. Yeah. I mean, if you discount Punchon, who, you know, I would debate whether or not he is a natural number 10 anyway, given how one foot he is and given the fact that he will only find angles on his left foot and can't turn onto his right, that it's just everything is wrong in that mix of the three. We've chopped and changed it all season. There's not been more than a couple of games at the very start of the season where we were going with that three of could buy a MacArthur and then punching ahead of them. We kept that for a little run. Since that's been disrupted a little bit, partially that's been because of Punchon being out form and partially that's been because of injuries and so forth. It's far too easy for teams to cut us to shreds through that middle part of the field. The only time we ever create anything on the flip side when we're being offensive is down the flanks. We never creating a thing through the middle and really it was absolutely crying out for not necessarily a natural number 10, but someone with an engine and we've spoken about Shelby in previous weeks on his podcast, but it was crying out for either a presence that was mobile that could get about in the midfield and I'd like to actually note at this point that I said, "Can't I add a physical presence when he's five, six?" No, I suppose so. You can still have physical presence but there's strength to him and it's just for me starting to go wrong all the time, in that particular area of the pitch. Last night was the first time in genuinely angry about a parlor's performance properly angry for a long time and it's partly to do is to see the club seems to be in denial about it at the moment. The transfer window, I'm sure we'll talk about it, but it seems to be no acknowledgement of the fact that it's gone beyond a couple of bad performances and I think we kind of know as guilty as anybody else to say, "Well, the Villa performance is the only one that wasn't very good." Last night, Bournemouth were a snidey, all these stories about the events of Bournemouth, they were a snidey, sneaky little championship team. We should have bit their championship team, we should have beaten them, but we allowed ourselves to get drawn into little niggles and little battles and getting involved in the petty exchanges with the referee. In the fact is we might as well play 4-4-2s, we're not scoring goals the way we are. We're getting an out-maneuvered in midfield with three people in midfield, we're getting their Bournemouth pastors, after we went 1-0 last night, Bournemouth is the first time Bournemouth have won from being a goal down in the Premier League, that shouldn't have happened. It shouldn't have happened, not to sell us part, but it was our time as soon as they equal us, they were going to be the ones to score next and they were all over us in midfield, all over us in midfield, so we played 4-4-2 because we might as well be properly out-numbered because we look like we're out-numbered as it is. It was not a great performance, it's not a great result, but I thought we started quite rightly, we attacked until we scored, and then it fell off. Lee looked to right, Lee again had a lot of energy, Lee's first touch is probably the best at the club, I mean technically he's really good, but it goes back to what Street he said at a long time, the system sort of worked against Stoke, it was kind of an odd system because punching was quite central, then you had Lee and Swari just doing everything down on left, they tried to work that last night, they worked, but as soon as it doesn't start to not working, we don't change it, nothing changes, and that's what happened last night, there's not even any sense of urgency, there's not even any sense of panic, there's not even any sense of going long ball, even Holloway would go long ball would switch to the way we played for him, there was no sense of urgency coming from the touchline, which I'm sure people would say it's good, but it's just so frustrated with that performance last night, and the transfer window is so frustrating, either we're being really complacent, or we're showing a lack of ambition, all players don't want to come to us, but whatever reason that transfer window, so you're parrying something to satisfy with it, it's disastrous compared to anybody else. What would you guys have liked to have seen in Travis, what would you like to see in the defensive midfield to come in firstly, because I like punch, number 10 completely, because now I'm just trying to figure out ways around the situation we have at the moment, and like we're talking about Lee's touch, I think you might be able to slot into that position for a game or two, because he's the type of player that we're playing him on the wings when he comes on, or when he starts, and he's the type of guy that when he's running a player's, he's not a willful ballast, he's not going to do a bit of trick, and he's not going to beat a man, but his first touch takes him away from someone. I feel like a Johnny Easter. Yeah, when you have those balls being pinged in from Kebai, from just behind the halfway line in the centre circle on MacArthur, you need someone like him who can faint one way, go the other, and then it's kind of opened up that space in the middle of the park, and then you've got, now we'll have someone like Adebayor, when Gail comes back running on, if you could slot a pass, it would make a big difference at the moment we're missing that killer pass in that number 10 role. Should we have a pass? I think punching just needs a rest, he looks like a bastard. Yeah, he looks like a bastard. He looks like a bastard. Yeah, exactly. He's doubtful for the next one to get him, I think, he looks like a bastard. He looks like a bastard. Can I offer? He doesn't seem to know what he's doing. And he keeps getting 90 minutes as well, which doesn't help you. But can I offer you this? Because I agree, I think we all agree, punches have been out of sorts this season, and nowhere near as good as we know he can be. Apart from the cup games? Apart from the cup games. But can I offer you this? In the Premier League of the seasons, I'm not including the cup in Premier League, punching has created the most chances of any player, 44 chances. Is that including shots on goal or is that just passes on goal? Not sure. That will be set pieces properly. Well, that's the thing I was reading a bit further to that, and it will include set piece and giving it takes all of our corners and all of our wide briefings. Still not a bad stat, though, is it? No, it's not a bad stat. The trouble is the trouble with stats is that we've watched him play the last set of games and he's not doing that. I thought it was worth it. It's a really good player. There's no dispute and he's a really good player, and there's no dispute in the second part of last season. He was fantastic, and he was one of the key reasons why we played so well and won so many games. But at the moment, for whatever reason, and again, it's him and Hennessy and Tahaul are the things we talk about every week on the pub, and at the moment, it's just not working for Puncher. He just doesn't seem happy where he's playing. He doesn't seem to particularly what he's supposed to do. His confidence is low, so we need to change it up and party seems in the same way that he was really reluctant to rest molasses when we thought molasses needed to rest. It's the same with Puncher. He plays in week in, week out for 90 minutes, and when it's clearly not working, and he's not working for seven or eight games now, did you? The thing is, as well, I'm not a physiotherapist, and I'm not. Really? That's the first time I had a lot of conversations. You started a lot of conversations. That's the first time I had a lot of conversations. I've ever said that on this podcast. It's not a worlder. But, I mean, Puncher has now been played into this hamstring, has gone, and Blassey was played until... I mean, I know that his injury was exacerbated by a set-by celebrated, but if you play players for 90 minutes of every single match, every single week, it just increases the chance that at some point, if you're not occasionally wrapping them in cotton wool, that those injuries will be picked up. And now, Puncher is out, I would imagine, for the next game, or is at least a doubt, just because he's not been given that time to take a rest when he needs it, and he's sort of over exerted. I thought it was really interesting, I looked at the team sheets for the most Premier League teams in the FA Cup, and we were pretty much the only one that paid of what he would call a four-stroke team. And that surprised me, because I thought Attabai would probably start the game on Saturday, but I thought he would rest a couple of players, and obviously, he thinks it's a tournament we can win because he clearly hasn't worked out at the FA, don't want us to win it. But I was quite surprised by it, and also, we did approach that game. There was a real intensity about Palace on Saturday, and you have to believe professionally, despite what my dad says about it, professional footballers, they should be at play two games. If they tell you that it's really hard to play on Saturday on Tuesday, you have to believe that at this pace, and it must be. And quite clearly, we've got players that are suffering from that. But if Pardee was playing a likes of Pardee, like a Puncher in each week, is that an indication that he doesn't trust the backups in our squad? Well, he thinks Puncher, it's hard to say, I mean, he's seen the best of Puncher, and we know that on his day, Puncher's a really influential player, but he just hasn't been recently. And I think Travis is absolutely right, I'd like to see Lee in that position. Give him a go, at least. Yeah. Technically, he's a really good player, and he's full of energy, and he's full of endeavour, and he's full of enthusiasm. Well, the fans weren't happy quite rightly when he got taken off. I was completely shocked by that, it was completely shocked by that. First time, some boos, I don't agree with that, it was first decision. He was the one after they scored the first goal. He was the only one who looked like he wanted to pick the ball up and get on with the game. And like you say, that's how we were, for the last, you know, especially on the Pulis and his first part of Pardee, that's how we were anyway. It's like we're finally starting to see with Lee, why Bolton fans rated him far hard. He was signed a sort of CY. He's taken a good half season to see that from one point of view, but I think he's decent. So I'm going back to the transfer window. Should we have signed a centre-back Andy, because we talk about North Korean goals, but the defence has let in a lot of goals. Is that more of a concern than our lack of work? Well, I think there were plenty of positions. We could all talk about it here and we've, Travis has picked out an offensive midfield. I would pick out a defensive midfielder with some sort of physical presence as being required. Others have spoken about the fact that we need a goalkeeper, he's a genuine top 10 goalkeeper, we're on what we've got there. We brought in Adebayo because we need another strike. There are plenty of positions in the squad that need bolstering. The centre-back is undoubtedly one of them, both Dan and Delaney looked a little bit out of sorts for me against Borma. Dan got ridiculously easily rolled by a phobe when he just would not expect a player of his sort of experience and stature. And just his general resilience to do that sort of thing. And Delaney, at times, has gone and walked about and leave him with Swari rather than picking him up himself, particularly in the lead-up for the second goal. They did a little bit out of sorts as well. And the back-up options there are Hangarland and... Kelly and Mary Appa. I mean, I'm sorry, Parrish has spoken time and time again about three-year cycles. And there's plenty of players out of contract in the summer, including, I believe, Hangarland and Mary Appa. I think that's right. And maybe it's just one of those where we're going to try and limp over the line to get to the summer with those then off the wage bill, to then bring in the new faces, that centre-back and so on and so forth. But it's not going to do anything to allow the frustration of people who then have to watch the team limp over the line, knowing that the reinforcements are going to come once the squad is trimmed a little bit in the summer rather than being dealt with now. There's a short answer. I think, yeah, there is a need there for all new centre-backs. The trouble is good players are less likely to come if you finish fifth from bottom than you finish fifth from the top. Undoubtedly, but the thing with the centre-backs is you know all the back four that it's harder, I imagine, to slot in a new... The back four has been pretty much picking itself. The back five has been picking itself. It's harder to slot somebody in halfway through a season, I imagine. But also, it's not entirely their fault. It's the back four. They're not the only ones defending. And the fact is, as well, we've talked about this. If they know that if we can see the first goal, we're pretty much going to lose the game. That puts a lot more pressure on them in terms of stress, in terms of defending. And they're just not getting enough cover, it comes back to the midfield. Everything is the midfield at the moment because they're not, at least in previous times, it's been time you think, "Well, we'll get anyone ill then because we know how to defend." And that's gone out the window and that's partly because the car for injuries or whatever haven't started nearly as many games together as they had done earlier in the season. And God love him. We all love doing that, but the others are not good enough. And there's not enough defensive cover in the moment. It's not just the back four, or Hennessy that should be getting blamed. And I understand the logic. I'm pretty sure Andy's right. I'm pretty sure that these were decisions that were made when we were comfortably top half of the table, and then comfortably top six. I'm sure they sat down and said, "Well, let's do our shopping." And then someone says, "No need to worry about it now." But at the time they realised it was, it was probably too late because these things take some time. But it's frustrating when you see players like a phobe going at the ball, or if you see players like Naismith going to Norwich, you see players like... Even Stephen Ireland. Stephen Ireland is not getting picked in the league team for Stoke, and much as he's a dirty, needly little sod, and he's not as good as Deliali. He's exactly the sort of player we want. And we haven't got that, and shall we go to Newcastle, it baffles me. Town's then going to Newcastle, baffles me, because these are players that we know we were probably interested in. So again, it comes back to that thing. What is it that's stopping them getting summoned in? Because we test. God love him. We all love Freda Hanglan as well, but we're watching him warm up down the touchline last night. It doesn't fill you full of... At least both things, anything. Well, that's a good sign, but there's just something odd at the moment about it, clubby can't... What did you guys think of Adabayor Travis's first... Not an ideal introduction, isn't it? I mean, they've just scored, and the cheer for him coming on is... It's almost like the former fans were cheering him coming on as odd, so it's celebrating the goal they're doing. Yeah. Not the best circumstances to come on. I think if it started the game, it just doesn't look like the team had enough time to figure him out as a player yet, because there's a lot of strikes that you see trying to get into the line of the long balls coming in from Delaney. He seems to be one of those strikes, because it drops off and waits for almost a nod on type of thing and will run in behind. A poacher type of guy. He had that one shot, could have put it on target, almost won a header in the box at one point. He looks like he might score a couple of goals, tap-ins and be in the right position at the right time, which is what we need from a striker. He's not a slow go. No, he's not. I mean, he's a top quality Premier who played for a round. Is that that being with the most fake Premier? No, it's not. It's because I know as a couple of mates one who are just really, really furious about it, but it's kind of no brainroom. If he's available, he's only 31. He's played for a round with really good quality striker, but again, you can be the best striker in the world. You can't make goals out of nothing. I do wonder if the fact that, because it looked like Gayle was definitely going to go up one stage. I do wonder if we've kept him because he might be looking to play Addie Biles again. I don't know enough about him, but I'm pretty sure that he's not the sort of striker. He normally plays up on his own. Normally, he had somebody playing off him. Well, I was thinking to him, once when he was back, when he was at Arsenal, when there was a few games during that season, it was like, well, when he was at Arsenal, about five years ago, and he complained that he had played about three or four games by himself in front of him. And he had felt as though that was when the Arsenal were starting to turn on him, and he said, well, what can I do? It's almost not my fault. I like playing up with someone. I don't want to try. I mean, this was back at the time when there was the John Terry's, the Rio Ferdinand's, Vidditch's, who were at the height of their game. And when he was playing for us, playing those top teams, it was hard for him to beat two defenders at once. But I think he was someone that would work with another striker up with him. And judging by the injuries we have in the centre of the park as well, why would it not be a good idea to possibly just rotate and try and change your finish? Yeah, absolutely. Unless they're at the top of the table playing a 4-4-2. Yeah, exactly. What, for the doing? Well, it's 4-4-2. Yeah, exactly. High current. I don't know. It's a tough one. And we've said for a long time that maybe Gail would be a much better player who's playing as a second striker. Yeah. Because Gail is hungry to play. He's hungry, and he's also fast as well, which is something we haven't... There's no real... I mean, Gail has got the pace, but he just doesn't run into the players when he's got the ball. He's just so... He's just for straight... He's just for straight... First, first, first, second. I feel... I really thought maybe there was a breakthrough with Campbell's. He really looked, but then there's that one that hit his head loud and... It's just not a natural... He's not a natural finish, and the trouble is... Half it added by. I was probably going to get you five goals. I think the police got it. He doesn't get 10 for obvious reasons. But if he gets us five goals this season, fine. That's a good move. We're not paying all his wages. He tends to play well, as everybody says, when he's looking for a contract, whether it's from us or other Premier League teams. I don't think there's... It's a no-lose situation in a sense. The other thing about the ball is he's got... He's not a selfish footballer, but he likes to talk about himself and think about himself. And he's six goals off 100 in the Premier League. So he's coming to our club. It's not just like he's coming going, "Oh, I really want to help Palace." He says that, of course, every player would when they join a team. But he's got a lot of personal goals that I think you want to achieve. It would be a benefit as well to us every once. No, but he's also foreshort of becoming the highest scorer in Africa and playing in Premier League as well. Which also would you argue, Andy, is something perhaps our current corporate strikers don't have that kind of... Or lacking that real self-belief and confidence ability to score or... First part... But that's the worst selfishness. Well, yeah. And I mean, that's probably not surprising when you've got statements in bad form anywhere and you've got a striker in Fraser Campbell. He's probably a top half championship player. If I'm honest, I thought some of the dog's abuse that he was getting at so last night was absolutely disgraceful. The guy doesn't pick himself. He's not going to say to part you when he is picked, "Oh, no, you're all right, gaffer. I'm not actually good enough this level of football to help you feel about getting your IOS." And I go back online and put him up front in his dead parts. I mean, there's no lack of effort. There's no lack of effort. And when I hear people saying... I'm trying on the field. Well, exactly. When I hear people saying, "Well, he's a professional footballer." Of course, you should be able to control a football. It's a bloody fast place of football at Premier League level. And you've got to be an exceptional footballer to be able to play up to that level. He's not good enough for that. But that's not his fault. And to scapegoat him and make out all of the issues and all of the failings in the team at the moment, when you've got a dysfunctional midfield, when you've got an out of form back to in the back fall, when you've got a fall back to a consistently, positionally unaware, shall we say, and you've got a goalkeeper who makes errors. To blame everything on one striker who's running around the load and isn't that good just seems beyond myopic. It's like any organisation where they used to work at the ambulance service in recruitment. If you get a bad ambulance, man, it's recruitment's fault and training's fault. It's not a player's fault or the ambulance's fault. It's just slip through the net. It's like we shouldn't have bought it. We should be buying better players. That's the problem. And that's a problem with this transfer. It's just that we don't seem to be out of the spot. Other players at Premier League clubs bring in just don't seem to have been on our radar. I would like to know, I think the club's culture has slipped back a little bit into sort of pre-2010 days. It's a real lack of information sharing with the fans at the moment. I'd quite like to know if we did go after people when we were turned down or what the reason is that we didn't go for. But I think fans deserve to know. I've got two points to make on that. The first is that obviously with this new ownership structure, it seems that all three of the general partners as they're called now have a right of veto, which I'm sure must make it far more difficult than the days previously when effectively it seemed that Parrish had sort of an informal ability to go out there and sort of do the business that you needed to do. I'm not going to draw any inferences from that new structure, but it's going to be more difficult to get things signed off and that's not of indication one way or the other. The second thing they told us to learn blue in the face of their money, their investment was for the stadium and not for players. So why would they get involved in that? I mean reading in between the lines from what Parrish had said in his press conference I think last week when he said that obviously Parrish will come to me with the potential signings. I have to say yes and no and then we'll have to get them signed off by David and Josh as well. So it's a buy-by platoon and buy-harris. So yeah, I mean the sort of predominant aim of that investment was presumably to invest in the infrastructure, notably the stadium. But it did seem that you'd need that level of sign off where I'm not sure whether that was just done informally before and whether it's now sort of subject. It's all speculation normally. So there's that point. Then there's also the point that, I mean there was discussion about FFP, which I just found it utterly bizarre given the actual rules in that particular. And just to be very, very brief about it, teams have to over this three-year cycle not make a loss of more than 105 million quid in year one of that cycle. Palace made a profit of 25 million. So you're talking about a two-year loss of 130 million if Palace were going to breach through that particular boundary. So to see Steve Parrish talking about it in the press just seemed a little bit odd because I think it would have taken some quite extraordinary spending to have gone through that boundary. I think it, to me, if we're going to look at that transfer window, it just reads to me as, you know, most businesses generally done in the last week of that window. We had already embarked on a poor run and that poor run had commenced before Christmas. I think they got to the point of which most clubs would be starting to do the genuine business and the genuine transfer window, which is middle of January onwards. And had a look at it and thought, do you know what, are we going to read twist on this now when the hopes of Europe have receded a little bit and where we're probably looking safe? I just think that it was the risk-averse option that was decided upon just because that bad run had already commenced. Whether or not there's an argument that the business should have then been done very, very early in January, I can see the merit in that. But I mean, that's, to me, the reading of that particular transfer window. And it's incredibly at this point and, yeah, then you get a meltdown, is there a little bit disproportionate from lots of fans? Lots of fans who take it a little bit too personally and get a little bit weird about it, frankly. But there was a clear need and an obvious need for reinforcement in a load of material positions that we didn't end up reinforcing. Yeah. One name we were linked within the window was Rob Green, which is on deadline day, a very late one. Given Hennessy's another mistake for the second golf form of Kevin, is it time to drop Hennessy again, given that McCarthy was dropped for less errors, really? On that logic, then, yes, on that logic, it's because the trouble is, it's pretty much won over two games now. And it is an unfortunate fact of goalkeeping life that the costiness goes. And then, yes, you can argue that the defender should react quicker and, you know, he shouldn't be in that situation. But, yeah, for his own confidence, for his own sake, I imagine he'll be, he's going to be the goalkeeper for Wales anyway, so that's not an issue. So, it's not like he's going to be knocking on the manager's door saying, "Please don't drop me." But, yes, the simple answer is, at the moment, something needs, but again, it would be windowed. I mean, that's almost, again, that's old-time Palace, we're linked with Rob Green. I wouldn't mind if we're linked with a 23-year-old keeper that everyone's talking about as a next big thing, but we'll link with Rob Green, who at the moment isn't that much better than what we've got anyway. You'd just be placing light for like, in a sense. He was a really good goalkeeper. He's not that good anymore. He's prone to quite a few errors, even at championship level. So, that, I mean, that was a sticking class to Palace. It was just like, "Let's get someone in to solve this short-term problem when there are other short-term problems that need solving." And I'm sure Paul would be sitting there going, "Well, we'll have the lassie back soon, and I'm the face of it. It's a hard, lassie, eddy boy, or that's a good front free." But, if this keeps going on, I'm not going to say we're not, I'm not going to say we're not going to go down, we probably won't. But, you know, if we get to the end of this, we talked about the next five games. If we get to the end of this, these five games with only one more point or no more points, then we're in serious trouble. And already, other, you know, I'm, I'm part of this one of the best managers I've had for ages, but it's the complete lack of acknowledgement of the fact that we're in this bad run that worries me. It's like, no one's putting hands up and saying, "Yeah, we understand your problems. We're working on it. We're going to try this. We're going to change that." It's just like, they're just carrying on. It's just like, "Yeah, we're still mid-table. We find it's not a problem." The money Newcastle spent, they didn't buy defenders, which was a mistake, so I was unconcerned. And it doesn't necessarily mean, you know, I don't think Norwich will necessarily stay up because they spent a lot more money than we did in the Premier League in the window. But it's just frustrating when you see teams in and around us doing that, acknowledging the situation by bringing new players in when we don't. And then they saw the players that we could have, we could have happily used. If we'd simply bought Shelby in the transfer window, I'd say that's a brilliant window. Shelby and Eddie Boyle, that's a great window. But they're just not addressing the problems. And we all know what the problems are because we're watching the team week in, week out. That run he did in the first half last night. It was fantastic, but he took him out in a game for five minutes. He was literally like a kid in school kneeling down with his hand on his knees afterwards. It's quite clear that there's a lack of energy and there's a lack of passion in midfield at the moment. The lack of passion is unfair, so I'm sure there's no lack of commitment. There's a real lack of energy in midfield at the moment. And that's really worrying. And as Andy said, everything begins and ends with the midfield at the moment. That's where all the problems are as far as I can see. That's why I saw it go 4-4-2, missed the midfield out. Start going long ball again. Just try something, just try it. Just try it, because you saw that with Lester last night with Vardy's goal. And we've talked every week pretty much about looking out at the team squads and going, which of their players we're getting out to start the season. And I include Vardy in this, you wouldn't have taken any Lester player. You wouldn't have said this, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. We didn't know about it. Start the season. You looked at Lester squad and you looked at ours or Lester's first team. There's not one single Lester player that you'd say, "We'll have them in our team." And there's probably four or five that they would say, "We'll have an out team." And look what they're doing. And the fact is they do mix it up. They had some brilliant passing football last night. And then they score a goal from a long ball out from the back. And we're just not mixing it up. We're not trying it. Street keeps saying, "Plan A doesn't work. At least try a plan B. We haven't got a plan B to try it." We haven't, but we do on the podcast. We do a plan B. And that plan B is part two. We're going to go. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. After this, after this, short break. Welcome back to the Five Year Plan podcast. And Pod 167 sponsored by Vector Printing for your printing embroidery needs. Go to vector.co.uk and that's Vector Wither. And JCIS, the Global Research and Brand Consultancy from South London. Visit JC-IS.com. I will. Very good. Well done. You should explain. People need to listen to a previous pod to understand that. Yeah, just go listen to the previous pod. Yeah, yeah. All of them. All of them. Start from the first one in your scary flat and partner. It wasn't scary. It was just... It was for me. It was, yeah. Pokey. Right, the first question... I said no, but... It's the safety word next time. Right. First question, we've got a lot of questions. I'm going to try and get through as many as I can, but I won't be able to answer them. I've got a question. Are you aware with your new haircut of how much you look like Haley Cropper from Coronation Street? Yes, I am. I am because you keep sending me photos of Haley Cropper from Coronation Street. Haley Cropper hasn't got muscles like who he's got. No, she has not. Listen. For every five side of Haley Cropper, they get tweeted to JD or FIP. I will donate 50p to the British Heart Foundation. No, I'm good. There we go. I'm going to have to block my Twitter. Okay. Oh, what? You want people to drive heart attacks? No. No, actually, I don't. Please send me those photos. Haley. I am going to get a haircut sooner. The first question is from Phil Hughes. That's Phil. Phil says, "Is the home pitch, or sell us pitch, too small for the type of football we play? We always seem to do better away from home and wider pitches to give our wing us more space to operate." An interesting way of looking at it. There is a good question. Malcolm Ellison in the '70s had the pitch widened a little bit too much and went over the regulation pitch size. He had the pitch as wide as possible for light to be a tater, but that's a good question. Our pitch is apparently one of the narrowest in the... I mean, albeit, albeit, albeit, whatever. It's only by a yard or two, but it is a relatively narrow pitch considering the style of football we play. And there is room to extend it a little bit on the new stand side. So that's a really good question. That's a really good question. Of course, I've never thought about that. Yeah, it's a good question. Ben Allen says, "When does a blip become a complete collapse in form and confidence?" Not yet. Now, not yet. I think we're not far off now. I think we're not far off, but I think it's once we're... Two more losses, mate. Yeah, one or two. I think once we're a loss away from the relegation going, that's when it's a big problem. But I almost feel that that type of thing might be able to knock us back into form. I suspect. I mean, the thing is, until I suppose... Objectively, I don't know. I didn't have my objective glasses on. I was just cross pretty much for most of the game last night. But, yeah, we didn't play that bad against Tottenham. We did play well against Stowe. You know, most people at the club said four-nil probably wasn't quite the right school line at the city. But we're not far away. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It breeds itself, isn't it? The confidence gets lower every time we lose. And losing the home form, it's almost a separate entity. We need to get back to that away. I think all it takes is it's going to take a win or two. We need four or five wins for the rest of the season to be still half decent. But at the moment, I can't see where they're coming from. And the worry then, of course, is that they'll rush Balassie back and he won't be ready. I don't think it's a good question. I don't think we're far off it. I mean, I think there's been a certain... I do think there's been a certain complacency around it. And you just don't see any energy or passion or... I'm not suggesting they should be panicking and waving their arms about. But clearly, they're obviously dealing with it. But at the moment, they're not acknowledging that we're on a poor run of form. They just seem to be carrying on the zerks business as usual, which... Well, maybe that's the way it's dealing. Yeah, but I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is. I think he's being acknowledged, he's been dealt with in the wrong way. I think sometimes I look at the team and I think the goal-scoring drought is leading us to try and... attack more, leaving us more open at the back. So sometimes he's swearing, bombing down the left-hand side so much and leaving... Because more isn't the type of player that bombers for is, but hasn't got the pace to do it. That's why it does and can whip in a few balls every now and again that are semi-decent. But it just seems like all defensive responsibilities are being lost. And I think back to other games where we usually do win. We win off 30% possession. We defend the whole... And it's especially more obvious away from home than it is at home. But we win most of our games on the counter-attack anyway. It just feels like we've been in the League two seasons now. It feels like the whole team is expecting to play like a premiership team. But once we're playing games like we did yesterday where... We're keeping possession in and around the box, but we never look threatening. We look threatening once. They're pushing players up. And they have most possession, most shots. We have less, but they're better chances because it's the three against two. And I don't think at that point then you need Balassie Anzar. I don't think Balassie might actually be the problem at the moment. It's just making the defence play and be as tight as they were in the past two seasons. And I think that will sort out... Because we're conceding far more than we ever used to. We just came in exactly and then Keith came in before... And it just came back to basics. It seems like that. I'll take a couple of Neil Drolls now. Just to get the confidence there. But that's a good point and it shows me. It's a second half on Saturday when Kebai went off. And Lee was so many of our attacks in the middle. I've came when Lee broke down Stokes attacks basically. And then we broke really quickly and we got to Baldur. We were far quicker on Saturday than we were doing last night. It was quite laboured last night. Hey, it's how palace way to take a tackle like Barcelona. We're in the same colours but it's almost... That's it. Yeah, that's it. As I said earlier, in the absence of a genuine number ten or an informed Jason Pudgin playing at number ten, it's going to be incredibly difficult to play in front of teams and break them down through the middle. And it seems if you try to play in front of them and you try to do it down the flanks, it's very easy to defend against at times. You just double up on the wingers. You just make sure you're dealing with the overlaps by not going completely to sleep. And then it ends up becoming a little bit pretty cool. How do other teams manage to win at home then? Because that's sure it's the same for all of them. Because they've got more than one centimetre field usually though. Fair enough. We always play down the wings. And quite often recently when teams have come to sell us, you see them playing five at the back. Sunderland did it and we had nothing going forward really. As soon as they scored that, as soon as they scored their second goal the other day, they had three at the back and they had those two wingbacks running up and down. And it was a, we can't break down big defences. We have to understand that I think almost. And not try and be a team that we're not at the moment. And it's so, so close. It's on his dad, isn't it? Yeah. He talks far more sense than his dad does it. Yeah. I haven't got the musical element from the centre yet. I'm not as boring or obsessed. Yeah, I do miss the musical. That's hard for them to say. I'm surprised he managed to talk for so long today. I was talking about Ballasic. He's realised how much older I am now than anybody else on this point. Yeah, but when you're a dad to you, that's not a problem. I'm thinking of Ballasic then. The next question is from Chris Kay. Hi Chris. Hi Chris. And Chris says, "Is there now too much pressure on yellow to rescue our season when he's back? Or will we thrive on that challenge?" Yes. Undoubtedly yes. Because there are systemic problems with that team at the moment. And they reach far deeper than just having one player out. And albeit that he has this ridiculous chaos factor to him that's great to watch. And he is an important player and he's been one of our best players over the last season and a half. Yeah, there is a bit too much. He's going to take him a little while to get back into the flow of things. He's not going to be instantly match up to be enough for a relatively prolonged period. And fans are now going to expect him to be the silver bullet they're going to go. Well, he was there when we were winning. Yeah. He's not been there while we've not been winning, bringing back and we will win again. And he was there and we were defending well and he hasn't been there since we happened. Exactly. He's defending well only. I mean, defending with all the other problems you have. The thing is, you probably inevitably he will come on as a sub-woman one deal down again, which will affect everything. But he will, I think there is pressure on him, but I think he's far more so than Zaha for example. He will thrive on that pressure because he's more mature, grown up, individual than Zaha clearly is. And I think he will just give everyone a lift. I think he will lift the rest of the squad, he will lift the fans. And he does, it's not just what he does. It's the space he provides for other people. And the fact is, and what Travis was talking about, he really helps in that process because, even though he's playing out wide, he is a hold up man. He can hold the ball and one other place. It's very strong. And if he loses the ball, he will get it back again. And that lifts everybody. In a way that if we'll lose his ball, you can first see his hand go on his hips or he starts. He takes him a while to stand up first before he can put his hand on his hips. He turns in the air. And to be fair, and Wilf is a really good player and he does get singled out for battering. I don't think he is protected as much as he should be by referees. But he needs to learn from Balassie because Balassie bounces up and tries to win the ball back. And it's physically, I wonder why because we could see the difference in Balassie from season to season. And he's just got physically much stronger whether that's off his own back or the clubs. But Wilf just isn't a good player. I've seen everything in broke strength. At the level of Balassie, of course. But I think he's not getting knocked off the ball as easy. He gets locked off it a bit easier once he's in that final third in around the box. But he still seems to forget that he should understand the nature of the Premier League football. He's going to get physically. And he used to stand back up and go with the ball. And then when he goes out and play, then have a pop. Absolutely. And then turn around. He has been our best player for the loss. He's probably six weeks old. Without a doubt, I quite agree. But with that comes responsibility as well. The responsibility is because I've thought he was wrongly yellow-carded last night. But there are other occasions where he could have been yellow-carded. He could have been sent off quite easily. Even after he got yellow-carded in the first half, only because Jen next stepped in that I think he stayed on the pitch. And then came out in the second half as well. So he needs to learn from that. Someone's got to tell him that. Because if he is our best player, and I know for a fact how keen he is to go. And I know Hodgson's been watching him. He wants to go to the Euros. He's not going to go if he's attitude is that. Because there are players that as good as him. And he needs to learn that. Because if we lose him as well. You've got to be able to trust your players. And he was absolutely sensational last night at times. Completely unplayable. But if you can't trust your player not to lose his head and do things that should rightly have got him sent off yesterday. It should have been sent off. Maybe two times over. You're going to end up putting your manager in a difficult spot at some point. And I think you're completely right. Despite his brilliant form at the moment. And despite the fact that he's been easily our best player to my mind for the last two months. He's not going to get himself a spot on that plane unless he looks like a mature professional at the same time. The thing is it's all very well said he's unplayable. But there's still not anything coming out of that. Against Stoke he looked far more mature. Stoke his movement was much better. He took that goal really well to finish him. It's just a shame they clearly didn't have enough cameras there. Because the highlights package was reasonable. That was a really, really good goal. A really good team goal that he took really well. But he can be as brilliant as he wants. But there's still no end product. And that's not always down to him. It's because the thing... I think his end product has been improving recently. It hasn't. It hasn't. It's shooting. It's still not good enough. And in fact here's again. We've set it on his pot to a blue in the face. There's only so much he can do if he looks up and the midfield is still trumbling to get. And again it's that one last night with the Jeddonette running the first half. That was a really good run down the neck of him. No one joined him. And if you can't keep up with Jeddon then you can't keep it up with Will. Exactly. Because that was really... And the fans were in the White Horse last night. The fans were getting really frustrated there. And rightly so. Because what Jeddonette did was he injected a real bit of energy and pace into it. I think we'd just gone to one all. And the rest of the team weren't responding to it. And in months gone by they would have done. But either they're not thin enough or they've not been told not to do it. But that's the trouble with Will. And what he needs him, what he was happening a little bit before Jarlle was injured. Is that Will, if Blaster was going down the left hand, so Will was coming in and getting into the box on the right hand side. And vice versa. And he's playing really well but it's still not getting his goals for the most part. It's not going as many. I feel like it's his end product. It's still not as good as it could be. Well so scoring a cup in stone. But he did get the assist against... For the last two league games against Spurs and on Tuesday. But you're right it doesn't... Yeah, still an assist though. No last night. No last night is really good. No that's very nice. But you do feel like with Will they're still a lot more to come. Or a lot more that they could come. Yeah but it's from within. It's attitude wise. And that's not just from him. It's the club that got us all there as well. Which he clearly did with Balassie. Because Balassie was a fringe player two seasons ago. Even Albeit and excited when we're chaos. And because of his own hard work. He's made himself a player though. Well I can believe it took so long last night for the senior pro's to go over to World Off. And just to say just pack it in. I turned around to JD. I said if I'm Damian Delaney or Jen Mack at this point. I'm going up to and going. You're going to get kicking when you come into training tomorrow. You can carry on with this and get yourself sent off. But maybe that's just coming down to the fact that the team were a little bit down on it. Or it was anywhere and people don't want to really sort of take anything by the scarf their neck. Okay. The next question is from Will Thomas. Hi Will. Will says considering our scoring trouble. If you were offered one and only one goal per game till the end of the season. Would you take it? I think you'd have to think that's pretty much what we've been offered. Just twice as much as we've been offered. Yes. That's a good question. She've only eventually got a jam your way to a lucky clean sheet or two. And then you've got the few points that you need to stay up. So I think ultimately I would probably take that personally. Well I would until I really annoyed me that Bournemouth, that's the first time they've come from behind. Because that going one and up against Bournemouth last night should have been enough of a platform. And probably would have been, I hate to say this, under Pewter's. We might have been under siege for the last, for the second half. I remember the West End game almost exactly two years ago in Shamaq School. When we were battered for the last half hour. But you had pretty much every confidence that we'd come out of it with our head ten high. And probably a point if not all three like the other West End. For that to happen last night. So no, I probably wouldn't take one goal at a moment. I think, what we need, a couple of one there was a way for me. We will be fine. We'll get a couple of results. But at the moment it's harder to see where they're going to come from. Okay. So I was just contradicting myself. I think actually up until a few weeks ago, four or five, we had come to stats again. We wanted teams that once we had gone ahead, had them lost. We were like the only team in the league who had done that. So where that's gone wrong, because it's now having to get us taught them. It's happened again last night. We also had the least number of, we've been behind for the least number of minutes. Yeah, the least number. It was up until near December that we hadn't been behind at half time even. Yeah. And that gives you confidence going second half. It's huge score of goal five minutes later, they score. So who's the confidence going to be coming into the second half? That's the funniest, because that taught them one. The taught them one I don't mind, because you saw when they played Norwich off the pitch last night. And oddly enough, we had team. They are really good. I mean, oddly enough, we had as many chances as we had in five games before and against taught them somehow. So it did look like we were sort of turning the corner. Yeah, I'm pretty sure there'll be a couple of games when Gary and Nick will be laughing, they'll score more goals in that game than they have done in the previous ten. But we'll take that. Yeah, of course we will. Yeah, there'll be two goals. Okay, the next question is from Dopi Dad. Hi, Dopi. Hi. Dopi Dad, five, eight, six, nine. Sounds like a weird chakra room. Let me use the ring. Anyway. Anyway. You've not stopped me with hyperlinomics. Dopi Dad. Dopi Dad. He calls himself Dopi Dad. Anyway, he says, "We all feel that match officials aren't protecting our creative players, but does the crowd hostility make refs more anti-CPFC?" I know a couple of referees, and they always say the answer to that question is, "No, of course it doesn't." I think they're human beings. Cletenberg hears his name being booed as it was rightly so. Before the Stoke game, there are probably a couple of 50/50s where he goes, "It's got to be 60/40 before we get the decision." But there's not nearly enough hostility, frankly, at the moment. It's not like referees are getting terrible abuse. It's not like I could use other grounds as well. Yeah, I reckon every club feels that hard done by the refs. I do think we're in a little spell where we're not getting the robbers agreeing. I do think one of the things I liked about PULIS was that you probably got three or four decisions in every game that went your way because he was a frightening presence on the touchline, and that's probably not happening at the moment. But I think he's overestimated. They're probably good professional referees, and I certainly don't think they would be dishing out yellow cards or wrong free kicks or fouls, but they might be the odd. But they are human as well. Probably the odd 50/50. They might, because they do factor things in. I know one referee in particular said, "When Ferguson was manager at United, you really played instant in your mind, which they're trying to do." Unless it was really obviously a foul against you, you probably wouldn't give it because you knew what you were going to get from Ferguson, you knew what you were going to get from the press, unless it was a clear foul. If it was 51/40, you probably wouldn't give it. And that is human nature. They are human beings. We'll get decisions. I'm sure I've been with fans probably when I last night. Everybody thinks the refs. That's true. Well, in respect to that, Martin Patrick. Hi Martin. So is it time for Pards and the club to start showing their teeth more? Are we poor decisions to protect our players? Absolutely. Yeah, we could talk about that, but we have done the answer to that. So a really good question, the answer is yes, without a doubt. And there are probably ways you can sort of say things without eating, caring, fines and sanctions and so forth. All he's got to say in press conferences is after him actually just be a bit more vociferous about needing to protect creative players like Wilf and, you know, pointing to specific instances and pointing to the injustice of it, not going punished in a lot of these instances. He's not got to call the referee, he's not got to say, you know, that he's biased, he's not got to say any of that sort of stuff, but he can make points in other ways. And I don't feel that at times that he's doing that. He did do that on after Tuesday, didn't he? I think he said if I was still a Newcastle manager, I'd have got more decisions tonight or something like that. So he's maybe finally doing that. But the figures you're not allowed to do, you should be allowed to do it. You know, they should be sending footage of the Stephen Ireland tackle to the PGMOL or whatever they call the professional match game of whatever, you know. They should be showing that to officials and saying explain to us why that wasn't, you know, why that was waived on it should be, you get done for doing it. But yeah, there is about time we showed the team for the club a little bit. Okay, next question is from Matt Tassle. Hi Matt. Hello. He says Sunderland and Villa last season, Sunderland and Bournemouth this season, whatever happened to under the lights at Silver's Park? Good question. It's a good question, Travis. Well, we used to be on stuff, wouldn't we? Are we on stuff, Bournemouth? Yes. There was definitely a deck that we hadn't... I think three days or something. We didn't lose on two days anyway. I think it was on Sky, wasn't it? It was almost like we went from the championship up to the Premier League and started playing. And eventually the good run at the start of the Premier League is under the lights, which was a small sample size, which was replaced by another small sample size of games that we've not done well in Premier League. I think it's not an event. It's not necessarily just under the lights. It's a sell-out part in general, so that home-forming general is just not good enough. And I think also it reflects the fact that in a way, perhaps if we were to lose a couple more games, we might get back to sort of under dog mentality. It reflects the fact that for the past, certainly the end of last season, the start of this season, there was more complacency from the crowd as a lesser. We didn't have that feel that we had the first season, and then when Pargy came in for the first couple of weeks, that backs to the wall, you know, relegation dogfight stuff. This season started as though we were a mid-table team. I'm going to stay that way in the atmosphere. There's been a little bit of a little bit. It's just we morphed into our mid-table Premier League club before we were at mid-table Premier League club. Yeah, yeah. We've got into mid-table positions from being near-relegation battles in the last few months of the season, and it's always had the team voice that's going to fight for, the fan voice that it's going to sing about. And it's just all the stuff you read on all the Palace fan pages you read about. You see fans there that are just going, "Oh, it's a disaster." It's not a disaster. There's a mentality has changed in the club. It almost seems too quickly, and it's back-firing on the performances. There's not that... Like I said earlier, I almost feel like I want to drop into this relegation battle sooner rather than later so we can get out of it with plenty of time. Do you know what I mean? All right, all right. It's in the next two weeks. Because we were out of it with plenty of time last season. Pargy came in anyway. It was at a point where people got, "Oh, Pargy's going to save two teams this season. Newcastle and Palace." And he did pretty much. And he got us out with five or six games to go. We're going thinking, "Oh, we'll be all right. We'll be all right. We'll be fine. We'll be fine." And we were fine. But I just think in the next two weeks, by the time we're mid-February, if we are 3.2 points off the relegation zone, everyone would just take a big look at themselves, and the fans take a big look at themselves, and just go, "Ah, cheers." When the reality is struck a bit, we're not a mid-table team yet. Stoke are only just becoming that proper mid-table team, pushing up into the apes and sevents, and they've been in the league for twice as long as we have. And they've got more strength and depth. And they've spent, for the second window running, they've spent a lot of money. And you talked about, Andy talked about bringing players in, other than strike, because they've just spent broken their club record. Yeah, 18.3 minutes. Really for a defensive mid-fill player that most of us, if we're honest, hadn't heard of. My favourite thing about that signing. My favourite thing is that he played against Stoke in a preseason friendly. Charlie Adam kicked him off the pitch. He had to get off injured. And I'm now signing. Couldn't you get a more stoke transfer, so I'll go in there. But Charis is absolutely right, but that mentality changed. Some of it has come from the club. It was the club, and Steve Parrish at the same start of season. We have to change our mentality. We have to look up and not look down. We have to be a bit more bold. Is that now sort of coming back to bite us away? A little bit, because these progressions are slowing incremental. It takes season after season of improving probably the weakest position in your squad to get better and better. It's not going to happen overnight by signing one French midfielder on 100 grand a week and expecting all of a sudden a team that was in the relegation zone nine months before to all of a sudden turn into a top eight player. That gave us the lift at the beginning of the season. That's why we're in the position we are. We got to fifth because that gave everyone a bit of a boost. You just need that boost from somewhere. Having said that, if Rich Corley or wherever it says to be a press conference, you're fifth, you're looking at the youth, whatever. There's not a chairman in the country who's going to turn around and go leave it. Of course not. He has to publicly say we're going to aim for the stars, of course he does. But yes, there is a way of managing it, but it's nothing. I think again, like Trevor says, it's taken us by surprise a little bit and we're still adjusting to where we are as a club. We're still well and up for it's by all. I've said with season, I don't actually want to call it five years of the season. No, I don't want it to happen. It'll be the down for whoever it did happen. I don't in the next two seasons. Well, you must have got the thick end of the wishbone of Christmas in because you're getting your way. Maybe I was too vocal about it. Okay, final question then from Tony Dobson. Hi Tony. Hi Tony. Tony says, "When are you changing the theme music back?" Back. We're doing it now. I think he means to the old one. We've done it this week, Tony. After losing three points to mine, you couldn't be asked to do it. And you know, I'm just going to be sci-furious if we now end up winning the next match. It'll be great to end this losing running to get a win on the ball. Blah, blah, blah, blah, but just more than anything. The look on Kevin's face when I see him at the pub thereafter and he goes, "I told you, I told you it was all down to the music. It wasn't the midfield. It wasn't the full backs. It wasn't the goalkeeper. It was a bloody music, wasn't it?" I've heard seasons would be relegated. I've turned left out of the bunny hole every game. I've tried the same amount of guineas before. We lose game after game and still do it. But yes, it is the music. We know that. We've got to do our bit, haven't we? We've got to do anything we can. Yeah, we should have done a pod on Monday. Then we would have got three points last night and then we wouldn't be having this conversation, but you don't care enough about a club to do that. I mean, it just would have had the shortest shelf life of any pot ever. Download it now, guys. Listen in the next 15 minutes before we lose again. Because right now we're in a post FA Cup win glow. Right. We're going to end part two there. Part three via our old jingle that we're bringing back for this pod. In part three, we're going to go back in time for in this week. Thank you, listeners, for your questions. Sorry, I couldn't read them all now, but they were some very good questions this week. So join us in a bit. Yes, welcome back to this week's five-year plan podcast. Three. Pod167 sponsored by JCIS, the global research and brand consultancy from south London. Visit JC-IS.com. I will. Good. And vector printing for all your printing embroidery needs. Go to vector.co.uk and that's vector weather. Okay. Right. I know you're more optimistic as the body's going on. Yeah, absolutely. We are actually. And the music's changed. Just on the exuberance of youth in Travis here, rather than the usual bitter old crowd. It's just my dad who took that in. That's a good point. I will go and report. It's also a random man to me. He's also talking about me. Not quite. Yeah. And he's sitting across the table talking about me. Well, I'm here. In your house. Right. Your dad wouldn't mind it, bro. He calls himself a statler or mortal. He does. Right. We're going to go back in time for in this week to some famous palace moments from this week. And the first one is Tuesday the 5th of February, 2002. Ooh. So out as well, before the transfer window, I guess. Yeah. Before the transfer window. Who did Patterson? Do you do this every week? Yeah. Well, it's the whole point of the future. Andy Johnson. I'll give you a clue. Andy Johnson. I was thinking that. Signed 2.4 million pounds. Addy, I can buy it. Yeah. Not really. I should be signing it. Addy, I can buy it was signed on 5th of... 2.4 million pounds. 2.4 million. Didn't you? Yeah. Can't think of me as Simon Jordan run out of money. How much money did we get in front of? From Leicester City. Where he was playing well, and then joined us, didn't play well, and then left. Was it Burnley after us? I think he didn't want to Burnley. He started scoring loads of goals. He started playing loads of goals. He scored like three, two or three goals. Can we take that? No. He really didn't. Any idea what Simon Jordan said at the time when he signed it? I've wasted 2.3 million quality out of mine. This has got a bankrupt. He's bright. He didn't use to come. Addy is a player I'm very excited about, and I'm sure he will fly with this club. He said that that daily had a bowler. Another Addy. And in fact, we've just signed an Addy, haven't we as well? Yeah. So hopefully it'll be better than that one. He was big one when he came to us. He was a bulky guy. Yeah, it was. Yeah. Much like me after going to Chisholm gym six weeks. Oh boy. I just like my weights this week actually. The sixth of February, 1915. Wow. Back in the day. Crystal Palace played their last ever game at the Crystal Palace. Oh, yeah. What do they do this? Yeah. A Southern League fixture against Reading. It's only 100 years that we've been away then. And they're all 101 even, sorry. I was into it as quite a lot of history, because football carried on for quite some time after the first World Star. It much to the chagrin of the press and the government. Any idea what happened to the pitch? After that. It was turned into an allotment. Well. Or there was something it was thinking by the army. It was taken over by the army, wasn't it? Exactly. That's exactly what I got here. The Addy and the Realty requisitioned the stadium. I thought they were going to say, turn into a gastropub and set a cross face. But obviously that came a lot later in the triangle. No, I think it was. No, they must have put guns on it too. Addy Zeppelin guns, but the whole thing was churned up. Okay. And then we lost, obviously most football clubs. There were a lot of misgivings that young fit men were playing football rather than signing up for. Because it was before conscription. Yeah. Understandable. Right. Sadly the sick, no. Sadly the sick, February 1937. Ooh. I'm only mentioning this one because the guy I mentioned in it has got a brilliant name. So Palace beat extra city. Eight nil. Someone got a hat trick and his name was Bob Big. Oh, Bob Big. Bob Big. Bob Big. I'll Bob Big back now. I love it if he was five feet tall. Apparently, Croydon Borne Big went on to score 41 goals and 114 in appearances for Palace. This is actually not a lot. It's Croydon Street now. Sounds like it's Pawn Star now. It'll be big. I don't think you had a lot of Pawn Stars in 1937. You did, but it took longer to upload. About 44 years. So that's when you went to technology first. Okay. Yeah. That was, yeah. That's a good one. I don't know if you've ever seen them. You're probably having copies of old problems, but it's when Croydon advertised used to do match reports via comic strips. Oh, amazing. They used to do like a comic strip version of what happened in the game because there is one with him because it says about his name. Which is great because they've now with their content concept. So, yeah. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Other websites and newspapers are available. Like the SLP, which is far better and available for 50k every Friday from your local news agent. Right. Okay. Pass you out the window. I'm going back. Do you know how I normally like to dig out Palace vs Brighton memories? It is, dude. We're going to go to Saturday the 11th of February, 1950. Yeah. Palace played Brighton at 7. Well, we'll have all of you for asking what it was like. We're above that. This is your normal response. My end is in here otherwise. Yeah, we're here. Okay. Any idea what the result was? In 1950. Uh, 41. Two. Palace. I wasn't really happy. Six, two. All right. Well, you got, you got the Palace one, correct. But you're way out with the score. Uh, would you reckon straight? Six, two. Three, one. No, one, he said. Oh, we won. We won. Straight is the closest. You won. Six nil. Whoa. Brighton six nil. Ronnie Rook. We've got some good names tonight. Ronnie Rook scored a hat trick with 15 minutes to go. Whoa. Okay. So, you're a hat trick and 25 minutes. He, the 38-year-old. Wow. Yeah. Brighton was so bad they let a 38-year-old score a hat trick. Would be our top scorer of that season. Yeah. There you go. Well, in those days, it was like 62. Yeah, it was like 62. That was like that. Uh, okay. Way down wild real cream as well. We're going to end on... Big power of, uh, Bob Bigster. Bob Big and Ronnie Rook and Rook and Big. Good, good night out with those two. Robert and Ronnie. Down at the weakest center. Going on with that out of the ball was proper sizing those days and had laces on it. Okay. Days to get down Joe Bananas as well. Yeah, it was still open, I think, Joe Bananas. Um, right. We're going to end. We're going to end with, this is great. And, uh, credit to Terrence, who runs Red and Blue Army for digging this one out. Um, he does a regular on this day on his website, which is well worth checking out. Um, I don't know the date of it. I'm guessing it's in the agency. It's our dream notes on this day. 'Cause he's dug out the, uh... No, I'm going to give Terrence some credit 'cause it's actually February the 3rd. And he actually does on this day, rather than vaguely around this period at some point in the distance as fast as I don't know when. Yeah, 'cause actually February the 3rd. What Jay D's done is stolen his idea and made it worse. Yeah, he did tell me this week. He could, I could use his ideas. Anyway, this is the clipping from the paper from February 3rd. And it starts like this. Eight Crystal Palace first-in players were involved in a punch-up after Saturday's home defeat with Man City. The players, amongst them, George Wood, Henry Hooten, Jerry Murphy, and Alan Irvine, were drinking quietly in the club's Tudor. And Trevor Adler. And Trevor Adler. Were drinking quietly in the club's Tudor bar when a group of drunken supporters began insulting them and hurling abuse. A lot came up for some particularly bad abuse, and then a fight broke out. The supporters chanted, Ron knows out. A reference to the club's owner were finally injected from the bar. That would be 84. So, Trevor Adler was single-handedly the worst striker, obviously, in the public. My favourite thing is they rejected from the bar by the barman and goalkeeper, George Wood. Can you imagine that now? Frank Fraser Campbell, were you there by the bar up in the red and blue part? Well, I just thought, I'm not really dead and I'm a lot on the pit side. I had to do something for the club somewhere else. Do you want any loyalty points with that point again? You should imagine Julian being behind the bar, though, just letting to help out. I can imagine if he changes or anything. That required then? It was good for George Wood, wasn't it? So, yeah, there you go. Trevor Adler was involved in a punch-up with fans. He wouldn't have landed a punch. He'd have gone way over. I'm pleased. He had told me Langley, he was just... His nickname was "Donkey" for various. Yeah, we had Beringham fight, him or Bamford? In a fight, I'll probably have Raylott, but on the pitch, I would probably be better than Trevor Adler. Patrick Bamford, better than Trevor Adler. Yeah, at first. They were proper, Doctor. I mean, that's when we'd gone from 52,000 in 1979 to 12,084 and six, seven years later. There's as low as fours, well, they were really bad days. So that, I mean, this season's bad, but it's not that bad. Yeah, it's not as bad as that. Yeah, it's normal. We haven't got a punch-up in the 2010 lounge. Not yet. Not yet. Did anyone see, by the way, speak the 2010 lounge? Kenny Sampson on Goals on Sunday in the morning, which was... It's back at the club now, then. It was a really... Any panelist found you missed it, they tried to see it. I thought they started off in a very insensitive way, with Chris Camara and Ben Shepherd tooling about. At last, they could drink, because it was the first of February. But they did a really good interview with Kenny Sampson. Very well handled, very honest, pulled no punches. But he was brilliant, and he was really, really good about that Palace team he played in as well, and how many local kids we had. So it was really heartening to see him looking so fit and well. And the club are doing a lot of important as well, which is... And he acknowledged that as well, and he acknowledged many things that you've done wrong to people around the club. So that was a really good story. We're at all the best of Kenny, we're absolutely good to see him. I'm doing all right. Good, right, let's end in this week there. In part four, we're going to look forward to putting this next game, which is a trip to Swansea. So join us in a bit. Yes, welcome back to the Five Year Plan podcast. Hey! Oh, I thought we were more positive. No, he's tired now. No, okay. So, we're going to be on 6/7 sponsored by a vector printing for all your printing embroidery needs, go to vector.co.uk and let's vector with that. Hey! And I've got you can buy brand new exclusive FIP and Vector with a K T-shirts, or you've got to do a go to t-shirt-monster.com/FIP. I will. You've ruined the next bit, because the next bit is, "Responsed" by you idiot. JCIS, the Global Research in Brand and so on, see from South London. Visit jc-is.com. I will. Good, there we go. No, we went smoothly. Right, we look forward, in part four, to our next game. Our next game is Swansea Away. Has there ever been a Palace game, Travis, with more pressure on it? Yeah, cool, so that's a lot of games. Yeah. He was for the FA Cup for the '90s. He was being a bit facetious, but there is, given the run, there's a lot of pressure on it. Given the run, there's a lot of pressure on it. But I was reading today, things, I don't know how it's going to go. I don't know how it's going to go. Hopefully. We've got the midfield problems, but one thing I was reading today is that we haven't scored in three away games, and Swansea haven't conceded in three out of four of their last home games. And if we're not scoring goals and they're not conceding goals, it's not going to look very likely that we're going to score in that game, considering how unthreatening we do look, hopefully, add away all spark that new... Would you guys start away off his fit? I would. If he's fit, I would. It just, it needs a boost, I think, and I think he would give that boost. Coming on 20 minutes after a team's just scored, he's not going to give the team that boost, but starting a game might do. Like I said, with all the injuries, it's going to be difficult to... The one thing about, I think, the last two games have been low scoring draws. The one was the one, or I think, when they... That's, I think, and then it was Neil Newell last season. I think both games, we've sort of been a bit lucky to get results in. Yeah. We've weathered the storm. I think the one thing in our favour is that they are going to be expecting to win, because they're still in a ready... I mean, they played really well at it, and I saw that game too. They look really good, but they will expect to win this game, and I think that might play into our hands. With the counter attack? Yeah, and the longer it goes without a goal, the more... Desperate they'll become... Yes, basically. Yeah. I mean, I think it's his first home game for the new coach, where he lost no one. Don't know. They'll be a good atmosphere, and they'll be up for it, and they'll be expecting to win. So, yeah, we... We always predict, if it changes on a bad run, it's possible to come to. So, yeah, maybe this is the unexpected game that turns our run around alone. Sure. Andy, would you... We talked earlier in the pod about sort of going for broke and tweaking the system, sort of nothing left to lose. Would you go for two or something or change it? Well, you've got any plans left, let alone tweaking the system. I'll be happy if we can get 11 out. Frankly, we've got punching out now. Yeah. We can still suspend it. I could have quite conceivably end up with a central midfield of Jeddonack, Borotang, and Leip, which would just be phenomenal. Yeah, it would be Jeddonack much. Much. Yeah, much. I don't think we'll do that. I don't think we'll do that. I think we'll do it. I think it'll be pretty much... Pretty much. It would have been better if it was delivered. I don't think he hasn't tweaked much so far. He probably won. I'm just asking what do you guys would do. The thing is, if he does start adding by all those, like we said right at the start, as Trevor said in particular, if adding by all doesn't like playing as a lone striker, then... I think why would you buy somebody who doesn't like playing as a lone striker then playing as a lone striker? So, we kind of hint that he will be making some changes. I do think... I'd like to see Lee start, as I do think Lee's bringing... I think he obviously will start, but I think he's bringing an energy into the team that we've lacked a little bit. I agree. As I say, he's a really accomplished player, and he looks full of confidence and full of energy. So, I think he's a bright spot at the moment. A lot of the time to start a 4-4-2, couldn't he? I kind of think it possibly could be the game just to try and figure something out. The next three games are Swansea, Watford, and Sunderland, is it? They're three games that, if we're in the beginning of the former season, we could look at them and just go, "Let's get nine points. Let's get nine points." Realistically, no, I think I'm looking at this and thinking forward would be nice. But maybe it's the type of, instead of trying to change things up against the Arsenal's and Tottenham's and City's at the league, it might be easier to try and play with something now and see if you can get a result out of it and take that into the... The Sad Factory, I would take four points in the next four games now. I probably would, too. I would simply take... A couple of games without defeat. I would clip the second and middle draw just to arrest the kind of slump we've been in and just kind of plug it a little bit. You see, though, we're trying to change everything too quickly. He's mentality, and we know that the apologies mentality is to try and win games off and draw them, which is why he goes on these runs. Yeah, which sometimes he can go against you. I mean, the fact is, let's face it, we probably will go on a little run somewhere within three or four, and so we probably will look back on this and go, maybe we've reacted. But I think those optimistic fans that are left are wrong to be to have a go at the ones that are... Some Palace fans are overreacting, but it was cause for pessimism at the moment. And it's so easy to say, "Well, we're not doing brilliantly in Premier League, that's great." And that's a fair comment, but it costs a lot of money against these Palace games. Oh, yeah. And so if we're getting back to the dark old days of previous managers, when if you're going to sell as part 21 games, or 19 times a season, and you're only going to see them win four or five times, fans have got every right to be spending 500 quid in the season ticket. And it's not... I don't necessarily buy into this whole idea about being entertained, because you're entertained when you leave with three points. Exactly. If you know at the start of the season, and at the moment, there's no reason to believe that it will change next season. If you know at the start of the season that you're paying that much money to see five home wins, then of course you've got to be right to be a bit concerned. It almost feels like the start of the season. We're playing so well on getting so many good results, but we almost call too much value for money. You know, we got... We've sort of cashed in all our good results. We've said this before. It's only arguably Newcastle, West Brom, Southampton, are the only three games that you could say we were the better team... Home games. Home games. We were the better team all the way through. That's a good point, but still, it's not a massive return for all that we're at mid-table. Whatever happens this season, the home form's got to be addressed. Well, I don't know, that's the 30s, and I don't want to be exactly the same as the end of the season. And it isn't enough to say, "Well, we're set up to play away from home," because teams play different formations. You know, it's less to say you can play a different way away from home than you do at home than we can. You do have to... And the fact is that, you know, you're talking about a new stadium, you're talking about new markets. If you want to do all that stuff for the parish, so if you want to expand and become a global brand for one of the better world, then you've got to make the brand a better one than it is at the moment. Yeah, absolutely. Because the only reason we're going is because we've got season tickets, we pretty much have to. Yeah. Well, we'll always go. We'll always go. That's why we've got everyone to do that. But also, it's not... I mean, I'm always trying to be positive and look at things from positive point of view, but five defeats in a row is a bad run. You can't criticise fans that are disappointed with that and are frustrated. Frustrated. Yeah, well, like, you know, people talk about... Yeah, I always talk about passionate fans up north with all that bollocks. Family fans are upset by... Family fans live for the club. Whether that's good or bad is another arguing, but it does affect you. I was confused. It took me to about three o'clock this afternoon to stop talking. I'm a grown man. And it's just... And, yeah, the upside of that is you go, "Well, you get the fun and the pleasure when you do get a good result." But, yes, that's how football fans are. There's no logic. We've got as much right to moan about a run of five rubbish games. We had to boast about a run of five good games, yeah. It's not like we've lost five games and played decently and there's been entertaining things. There's been nothing to get excited about. So there's nothing to even get excited about. But it does make... The only thing we're excited about is... It's a lot easier. Yeah. It's far easier. Yeah, I would... What we've drawn the most in the league apart from one of... I think we're drawing... Really? Yeah, drawing a fewish... You're always at the league? Which is four, I think. Well, bizarre, especially as me going on about Pargis doesn't like drawing. Okay. Well, actually, on that note, I think we will draw on Saturday. I think we'll get a point. Well, good. I hope so. It'll be the change of music that does it. Well, we will see. We will see. And now to play us out now is the old theme of music. Lucky music. So there you go. See, if we do win on Saturday, we will be keeping the theme music. And for the music. Thank you for being here. Travis, thanks for coming on to Pargis. Yeah, great, David. Yeah, strong David. Story, strong David. Well done. From the youth team, we've got a good academy. Yeah, we have on the pod. It's good. Yeah, we can't afford the high trend. James is going to try to get back into someone. Yeah. I think James will. He won't be pod fit for a start. He won't be pod fit. I don't know. He's ever been pod fit, to be honest. Um, you two as well. You two at the moment. Yeah. Yeah. He's the head maker of the pod. Andy Kevin. Thank you as well. I sure like that. Well, he doesn't listen anyway. Listen, thank you for listening. You'll hear from us after the Swansea game. So. See you then. Bye. See you then. Bye. My brother-in-law died suddenly. And now my sister and her kids have to sell their home. That's why I told my husband we could not put off getting life insurance any longer. An agent offered us a 10-year, $500,000 policy for nearly $50 a month. Then we called Select Quote. That found us identical coverage for only $19 a month. A savings of $369 a year. 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Two games in a week for the FYP podcast to chew over; a win in the cup and a defeat in the league. Why are Palace great in the cup but struggling in the league? The boys - aided by pod debutant Travis Endeacott - try to work that one out and finally switch back to old intro music to see if anything can help the Eagles out of this slump.
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