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That took way longer than it should have done. Let's talk about, well, let's introduce who's on the pod at any stream. All right. James Endicott. Hello. Kevin Day. Good evening. Good evening. As appropriate. Good evening to you. What time you listening? Yeah. So, Palace lost again. 3-1 home spurs. We scored a goal. No, we didn't. We didn't. We had a goal scored for us. Yes, I did, yeah. But we lost 3-1. After the game, a lot of people down the pub were feeling a bit depressed and on social media. I actually think we played quite well and that actually wasn't that bad. And we probably would have taught this one down as a defeat anyway before the season or even in the last few weeks. Oh, well, well, well, well, well, well. I think we played quite well. We played quite well. And that actually wasn't that bad. And we probably would have taught this one down as a defeat anyway before the season or even in the last few weeks. Oh, well, well, well, well, well. Why have you not done that? But I think we played quite well. What do you think about that? I couldn't get to the game for family reasons, but most of the pundits and reports seem to encourage you. So, Peter Reed, yesterday on Girls on Sunday, was very, very praiseworthy of Palace. Did that cliche about Will Play worse than that in the season? And Lewis, and we had more shots on target than previous games. We were unlucky, but Tottenham arguably have got the strongest squad in the Premier League, I would say. And this is probably their best chance ever of possibly winning the title, certainly getting into the top two. So, there's no, there's no disgrace. And it was, I think, a more encouraging performance. And as Peter Reed said, if you can't win a game, you can at least take some heart from the performance. And to be fair, I mean, hitting the bar twice in, for what, 15 seconds? And Lewis made some really good saves. But again, it's one of those games that you, at the start of the season, you go, that's probably a game we might not win. Even if we've been playing much better. What is important? Is there the next five league games are, Bournemouth, Swansea, Norwich, West Brom, and Watford? And they're the important games there, because if we've got, yeah, if we come out of those five games with 40 points, we'll be laughing. If we've still got 31 points off those five games, then we might start to get a bit. Well, that's when this mini slump becomes a full-blown crisis. Yeah, I mean, the fact I think we do have to, I think we said this last week, the only disastrous result was the villain one. To be fair, we've played Chelsea, who'd be Arsenal yesterday. So we've lost to Chelsea men's that he taught them under normal circumstances. That wouldn't be too bad. Yeah, if we had 37 points and we lost to those three teams, we probably wouldn't be that upset. But it's just now we've got to run our games at Leicester City. For some reason Leicester always shouldn't be playing teams, but, you know... But they aren't in the league, you know. They've never seen the part I don't know how it works out. So we've got a run of games now against all of which we would have been expected to win before Christmas. So I think that's where we judge the season after those five games. I agree, Dan, I think we are good enough to win. And for what I can say, for what I can gather and watching the extended highlights, we gave Spurs a really good game, but in the end they deserve to win with a flukey deflected goal from Delhi Ali. I need to see it back up. Was it affected James? I'm not sure. I don't know, I don't know. It's still a good goal, isn't it? Wayne, the keeper was the concierge plot. There were players in front of him. Dan and Jeddonak were spitting around like a ballerina with his head down transit in the ball and Dan were in front of him. But it was a great strike, I don't think it was a wonder goal, but it was a good goal. I think Jeddonak had to go off, that was actually better. But Jeddonak first makes it all work to him. A lot of time in space in which to do it, it's not a wonder goal. I mean, when they talked about it, when they first told about it, and Saturday afternoon, I thought even later, because normally I don't watch goals scored against us, but I thought I'll make an exception, because clearly this is a goal the like of which Pele and George Best put together never scored. I've seen better goals in Sunday football, frankly, and it takes an inflection. They're building up because it's Delhi Ali. Of course, they're building up and what surprised Roy Hodgson was there. They were building up and there's always coming up to every major tournament that England are going to be in. There's always some reason they're building up and he's the one. And he was good. He was good. He had a good game. He was good. He did have a good game, but he does have a little bit of Devil about him. He's got a little bit of Devil about him, hasn't he? It's all right for him to do what he's like. It's five minutes a kick combined in the back, isn't it? Because he's got a bit of Devil about him and he's English. He's going to play in the Euros. Where's Wickham? Where's Wickham, who was very stupid? Absolutely ridiculous what he did. Do we all agree that Wickham's elbow was intentional? Yes. He deserves a retrospective. He'd been charged today. What do you think? There's no intent there, is there? More or less collided with his elbow rod the other way round. Why can't he be as rational as I am about Delhi Ali's goal? Why do you have to be argumentative like that? I'd already left that for that site. He'd clearly be in contrary. You don't? No. It was a bad challenge. It was a bad challenge. He deservedly sanctioned for it. He was being pulled back. He wasn't either here or there. Exactly. You got the experience in that. There's two ways of looking at it. Either it doesn't matter because our strikers aren't scoring goals anyway, or we've lost our most experienced strike of three games. It's very similar to be interested to see how Pargy reacts because he was furious with Jenny. Will the ban include the effect of game? Was it just the league games? No, it's the day three games. We'll include the stock game. We'll include the stock game. I don't know. He hasn't replied to it yet. He's got two or two nights. No, six nights tomorrow. But he'd be an idiot if he does because he'd get a four game ban then for malicious appeal. I think change has got a point now. Delhi Ali's knee into the back of... Vatongum was really... Vatongum was really unlucky because the elbow was stupid and it's a terrible thing to do. But I'm likely to put somebody out of the rest of the season with an elbow to the face. Whereas what Delhi Ali did to Kebai was malicious and could really have hurt him. And I failed to see why that hasn't been cited in the same way because the ref took no action at the time. So I just think for me it's as bad and it's more likely to put Kebai out of a couple of games through injury than what Wickham did to Vatongum. And of course Wickham was being held back and the ref didn't see it. But again it's not over here and all that. You can't do that. Yeah, I mean Wickham's not unlucky. Vatongum is unlucky in the way he's fallen. He's fallen on his knee and potentially got a bad knee injury. But Wickham, the actions of throwing a elbow in his face is just so... It's not even... It's obviously very dangerous. But it's just so pitch-land and just so... Well also just so... Yeah, people of my generation and James' generation, you still hear them. You still hear the old footballers talk about the old days when you can do stuff like that. It's just stupid because they know... They know full-world is cameras. They know the rules. They know you can get cited for it afterwards. We couldn't forgive it, but you could almost understand it. If that rule wasn't in place, if there was no way of charging him afterwards, you'd go, "Oh, well, you know, he took a chance and he got away with it." But when they know that they're going to be done, that really is daft, especially in the situation we were in at the moment when... He's our number one choice. Yeah. I'd be surprised if he actually wanted to clock him fully square with the elbow. I'm sure he wanted to rough him up a little bit, because they were roughing a little bit over the pitch. I think it's one of those you can't really complain about having been sanctioned by afterwards, and it does look very bad, but it's one of those that... It's kind of connected in a way that sort of nine out of ten other times it might not have. And that doesn't justify it at all. And it's all about heat at the moment. It seems the moment, but it's also... It just adds to everything else. I mean, yes, you're saying, J.D., that we played quite well, and we did play quite well, and it wasn't a Phillip performance, but it's another game without scoring properly. It's another game without getting any points. Added to that, it's just... You just feel there's that little niggle going on. There's that little impatience. You can lose two or three games, and you can be buoyant and still be positive. It seems to me that maybe there's a bit of negativity coming in, a little bit of frustration. And I think that's something to do with that. Having said that, I do think we are going for a spell on all football fans, because when decisions aren't going for us in terms of... We talked about this, the Chelsea game. There should have been red cards with Chelsea. Things seem to be happening to us that are being punished, and other teams are doing and aren't getting punished. It's probably not right, but that's how it seems. And if it seems to be fans, it probably seems that way to the players as well. The rub of the green is not... The penalties that we were getting start the season, we're not getting... We're getting yellow cards for fells at other players. Certainly other teams aren't getting. So that's probably where the frustrations come. Wouldn't you rather have players that are frustrated by those kind of things on the run? Rather than players say, you know, new cards were going for their worst patch. Players turning up looking like they don't give a shit. You're not playing it much rather than frustrated. Rather, they took their frustrations out by scoring goals in legally justified ways. Yeah, they would if they could. That happens when they go on bad runs. You know, I think it was not bad when we haven't scored goals all season. That's true. Oh, yeah, that's true. I mean, you look at their first goal on Saturday, and Delaney was a fault for not jumping. I mean, well, he didn't even jump. I think that was one foot was on the ground the whole time. But his face afterwards, and I see the replay all the times, he was obviously really annoyed of himself for very frustrating. I mean, it's just that general frustration that's creepy into the whole Palace team at the moment. And I just think, you know, yes, you know, moving forward, we're just going to get out of this because, you know, all right, we're 11, if you said the beginning of the season, 31 points, 11th by February, blah, blah, the H really good. Yeah, yeah, great, great. Bite your hand off. But, you know, we are. But we're in a bad run. We need to get out of it. Full start. We need to do a Watford loss four on a spin and then came up against new cards. We came up against the first. It's bad team for one of the better ones. Yeah. And now we're entering that phase. So we need to do, it's no doubt we can do it. Of course we can do it. Yeah, I think we probably will have enough points after these five games. But it's the longer it goes on, the less funny it is. But I think we do need to judge it against those teams rather than... Well, it does end with pressure on those results, isn't it, on those games? The thing is with Delany and Dan and the whole back forward, again, we've talked about this, is that they know that the minute the other team score, that's the game gone more or less. As soon as they equalize, the home back forward knows that we... When are going to score? We're not going to score. Simple as that. As soon as the team goes ahead of us, the back forward knows. So that puts much more pressure on them. Because then suddenly, you know, a party is probably sending them out and saying, "Look, if you can't win, at least get a new one else." So the onus is on them much more than it has been in the past. I do think Will have had a great game on Saturday. I thought Will was back to the Will that we'd know and loved, causing a lot of problems, putting in some great balls, making use of himself. It's just a fortune, he didn't have a partner up there with him, anybody they were into. I'm not saying we could have had a bad game, but it just didn't seem to... But I thought Will was the one of the... But he got this for the goal? That's really good as well, because that's clearly, because we've talked about him taking responsibility. And don't forget as well, we have got... I'm fairly convinced if we do get somebody in, it'll be the likes of Eddie Beyer or Benton. But we have got Balassie to come back and that's... Yeah. That will give everybody a real lift. It'll be like a new signing, Kev. It's not a phrase I heard before, instead of the stage of the season. But yeah, do you know what? Well, you put your finger right on the nub. I just thought of it. It just came on top of my head. It could have been like a new signing. Well, by the next podcast, the next podcast will be after Deadland Day. So the very next podcast... Or... We could be talking about a new signing. But we could have had a Beyer and Benton dream team out front by the end of the show. Well, yeah. Yeah. Think of the pace and dynamism. That's the day we've ever played together for us, Norm. Any of those today? Must have. Same time. Maybe. But by definition, whoever we get it now isn't who we want it to get in. It's going to be a panic by surely. That's because if we had somebody lined up, we would have gotten them. Well, I was talking today that we're favouraged again to sign Remy, but... Very difficult to read to you by head to that. I thought Remy's talking. Remy's become available again because Chelsea trying to sign this new... Pat's home. Pat's home, yeah. I mean, that would be great because Remy's publicly said this afternoon. He's frustrated by his lack of thirsty appearances. Let's talk of us being favourites to sign Vareini from Sunderland. Who'd you do? The kid from Utrecht. You know, Nicholas Benton and that really would send a shot across the belt as well. He's around. On the one side. The one thing we need is an aging day with pink boots, who'd... That's the picky's number. It's just... It shouldn't have gone this far. No, it shouldn't. It shouldn't have. We always get the chance of it right at the end of it. We want to get the beginning of it. It's one of those things. The club have talked about this for ever since we've got... No, it's a Premier League. We have to get a Premier League mentality that on and off the pitch we have to start conducting ourselves. We get second-guest every transfer window. Why is that, though? I don't know. I don't know. Why would Charlie Austin not want to come last, which apparently was the case? Because he was on 100 grand a week. Well, I don't know. He was offered to us at 15 million quid. What's happened here? Why were we not in for the likes of Naismith? Well, it would be nice to be. Because it sort of reverted back to Old Palace when we're not even being told. Pard you, I think, said once that he's got his eye on a couple of people, not the ones in the papers. And we need to freshen it up. That's it. I don't think there's any harm in telling us that we... Even if they say we tried to get someone this week, but it fell through. But we haven't... Or even the last few windows. We haven't... We've done all right. We've got James McArthur in last time. That was a good sign. We had that Pulitzer Gallery window. We've got Dan, Ledley, Hennessy in... The window where he brought in Kevin Doran, an 82-year-old Andy Johnson. There's obviously the bad ones. And I know that was a good one. Well, Sware came in that window. It does... I mean, you're right. It does feel like... Well, it just feels like we have these windows. It's a very pallet. It's a very nice minute. But actually, when you analyze them, they're having some good signings in some of these windows. Yeah, but I'm less worried about other windows. I don't care about analysis. I care about the now. I care about the now. I care about what's coming over the next seven days, which will determine how we go to the end of the season. We can't talk about... We can't talk about the next seven days. And I know we won't go down. I know we won't go down. We probably won't go down. But we want some positivity. We want some positivity on the pitch. And it's, you know, can it come from everywhere, from top all the way down through to the fans? That's all we want. Yeah, no, I don't think we were that bad. I think there was positives on that. No, that's fair enough. No, that's fair enough. I mean, they had 24 shots. They could have been three and a lot with and a half now. Christian Erickson created more chances than any other player in the Premier League last weekend. But other than that... Yeah, there it is. He's a brilliant player, though, Ericsson. You know, we're also talking about... We're in the game for longer periods than we have been recently. And also, we're playing a spurts team. I think most seasons, we always assume a spurts of this nearly team that don't do anything or never quite reach their potential. This is a spurts team that is their best ever squad easily. Deepest squad. They're getting the best out of all those kind of nearly players. I chat with Ian Ericsson all that. They're playing very well. This is interesting. It's a really good team. And we played OK. Well, we were talking there about Deliali and having a bit of a go about some of his slightly, you know, more... I wouldn't call it malicious, but the slightly more sny side to his game. But having him and Denvera at the base level of field, they have their real physicality spurs. And it's something that I've said throughout the season. I think we're too timid in the centre of the park. And I think that we brought in someone in kibai who physically is a bit like MacArthur and slightly diminutive and doesn't really strike the fear into opponents. Whereas spurts are a great example that if you have someone who is a bit more physical, a bit technically gifted and mobile as well at the base you move fields. Not the same though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we said it last week about Lester and Kante. And, you know, all the teams who are there particularly well and who are towards the upper echelons of the league and performing well do have that sort of base in their midfield. And I thought, again, we were overrun a little bit. And kibai and MacArthur, whether it's just because they're a bit knack and they've played every week or whether it's the fact that they're not quite there. I mean, because I'm still not entirely sure. But we were outclass thinking most departments. And that's going to happen against him, I suppose. I think they'll comfortably finish in the top four. I think they'll push people a lot closer for the title than they've been can credit for. And they've got a good outside chance at that. You know, I think Arsenal and Man City will probably ultimately win it. But Spurs will probably be there or thereabouts until probably about a month to go in the season. So they're a good side. The just one thing is that, you know, it's a goal conceded in what? The 84th minute to Delhi Ali. And then obviously the third one's going to come. But it's yet again an instance where we seem to lack that resilience that we want. Once had, there will be a time where you thought, right, only 84th minute is one or... Palace. If there's one thing Palace will do here, it's hold out. Yeah, that's true. They'll be disciplined, they'll make sure that everyone knows their job, that they sort of transition very, very quickly as soon as they lose the ball and get back into shape, that they're blocking every single shot, they're not letting cheek balls go in from the wings, all that sort of stuff. And that's not really there anymore. And whether that's coached or whether that's down to the individual players, we're not as resilient and we're not as defensively disciplined. And that's why we lead goals here and there. Well, there was an excuse against West Ham, because we down to 10 men. But it happened at City as well, you're right, in City. He did bring Jeddonack on, which most people would think, oh, that's him clearly doing that. But then Jeddonack was the car that got spun for the car. Well, those legs have gone, I think we can be honest. I think he's passed it. I don't think we'll go down, we all know the areas that we have to improve. Before Christmas, we talked about us looking like a Premier League team for the first time. I think we looked like a championship team again now. I don't think we looked that much better than we did when Pulis... I think that's a... I understand what you're saying. I think you look individually, you look dispassionately, objectively at our players. And for the last six weeks, we looked like a chimp, we looked like I was struggling, we don't look like. And I know that's a lack of confidence, a lack of form, and these are the same players that have got good results and did look like a Premier League team. I think it depends on who's playing it. It's just a tightness and lack of depth, really. Yes, because the same players have to, basically, we've got... We've got the first 11. Yeah, he's had to keep playing. But this is a thing we've been talking about. We haven't got any depth. And it's now starting to show. When it was August September, we only had a few good results, it was fine. We all said we've got a lot of depth. We all said, "I wonder what's going to happen when the suspension's also injured, all they get tired." And here we are now, nearly in February. We all thought it was going to be all right. I think we overestimated quite how good the depth in the squad... Yeah, it's the best goal we've ever had, that's undoubted. And it's got some very good players in it, but it's got players in it. Tignoli is not a top 10 Premier League footballer. Jordan Mutch is not a top 10 Premier League footballer. Joe Ledley is no longer, even if he once was, a top 10 Premier League footballer. Mila Jettnack is not a top 10 Premier League footballer. And all these players are playing apart now in the team. Bakari Sakai is not a top 10 Premier League footballer. And they are the immediate second string. And the way you improve your overall standing in the league is you keep on incrementally in the worst position in your squad or your team better. You don't keep on going out and buying marquee signings. You go, "Right, we need to make sure that the cover that we've got are as good of, if not better than the people that are in those positions." And at the moment, we don't really have that. It's really exposed us having a few injuries in some key positions. I suppose you would argue, sorry, Joe, to each other. You know, Wofford would probably be arguing that they haven't got any players. Lester, you couldn't... Oh, exactly my point. I do think at the end of the season, the last podcast of the season, we'll probably be sitting again, "Oh, are we panicked a little bit, didn't we?" If we ever react to that, that really bad run. And the villa result was the only bad run. When have we ever admitted that we've been broken apart? Well, we've been broke in the past. And I think it's a corollary of the fact that we've had two... The last two seasons, the second part of the season has been really good. And I think we're all expecting the same thing to happen again. Maybe it's the right round. Yeah, at the moment, it just feels a little bit... It's a throwback. And again, we all laugh as we go. It's Palace, Expanse. But it just feels... Somehow it feels worse than the start of the last two seasons. Because we expect it to be in trouble then. And why it feels worse is because now we're underachieving. Yeah. It feels worse because it's easier to get to... When you're doing so badly and there's nothing to lose, it feels a lot better than when you start doing well. But does it feel like we're potentially throwing away sort of our best-ever opportunity to finish? No, I think it's just one of those sort of frustration things. And I was reading something about Everton today and predictions about them at the start of the season. And it said, you know, effectively they're exactly the same in terms of the amount of points they'll probably get the other seasons they were under Moise. But they now get it in a different way. They now go on ridiculously good runs where they look like a top four side. And then they go on these ridiculous losing runs because they don't have the same sort of discipline or resoluteness life. They don't have the same way of playing under Martinez now as they did under Moise. And in some ways we're a little bit like that with Pardu. Previously we had Pulis where you'd be like, win, draw, loss, win, draw, loss, win, draw, loss. One nil, nil, nil, one, nil, nil, one, nil, one, nil, one, nil, one. And now it's just completely the opposite way. It's more erratic and it means that, you know, we're capable at times of getting some ridiculously good results, like winning away at the bridge. But then came one going on really badly. To be fair, it's what Alan Pardu always said would happen. He always said that we always knew that we would get this type of football. And I guess the bit where it's not going so well is where we start to scratch our heads and get everyone better. Everton fans have been more upset than we are, so what's the good against Swansea? But I mean Swansea deserved to beat them yesterday. And arguably Everton, probably in most positions, have got better players than each position than we have. I mean they've got some really top quality players, but it's just not happening for them. And they look great going forward, but they're still not scoring that many goals. And Everton fans were really unhappy yesterday at the end of that. So it's not just us and it's still, yeah, it's just a dose of reality that's unwelcome. I don't like reality. No, I don't. Of course neither of us do this. There's no mirrors in this house. A player from Saturday then, still question marks over from a lot of fans, Jason Punchin. I only think he played on Saturday. Still out wide for me as out of position. Do you think he played alright? Yeah, moments I think. Still not getting the best out of him. I think it's going to be interesting what happens to him when Balassie comes in, basically. Because you'd imagine at the moment, depending on who you get in, Punchin would be the one who goes, I would say. But at the moment it looks like Punchin wouldn't mind that himself. Again, he's one of those players. He has five or six really good games and then five or six off the ball. But at the moment he doesn't really look like he particularly wants to be there. Well, I think he's being played personally, playing out position. I think he's much better than number 10 in the middle. I don't necessarily think he's playing like he doesn't want to be there. I just think it just seems like he's playing about his depth. Yeah, the game seems to be passing by. He's not quite on it. And when he's on it for one of the British, he goes looking for the ball and at the moment he's not looking for the ball. We know he's a sort of player who wants to be involved in every corner. When he's really good, it's like living for away last year, the last day of the season, he was into everything. He was demanding the ball and getting it and turning and looking. And again, we've talked about that long and hard, because he's a bit upset that Cabay is the main man now, I don't know. For whatever reason, at the moment, he's not. But who do we drop before? That's the trouble. Again, we go around in the same circles, because there's no one on the bench that's better than him, arguably. Anybody on the bench that's going to come on and make a difference either, which is one thing that we don't have, a lot of teams around us do have or seem to have. I don't know. It's that element of surprise that we're missing as well at the moment. Yeah, unless they sign someone, they won't. But no, you never know. You came into this pod today all night. I know you're over there, we're crying. You guys have brought me down? I've brought you down. I'm happy we're 11th in the Premier League and it's still in February. Of course, I'm happy. We've got 31 points, and yes, you're right. I'm feeling a bit better now, because you've pointed out to me. We've actually lost to three really good teams. We haven't played that badly. We've only played bad against with Villa. Exactly, they're rubbish. Yeah, but we played all right in Southampton in the Cup. Played right up. A point where a ball isn't a bad result in a great scheme. In Swansea, that was disappointing, but our home form has been like that all season. We know these are things that have got me rectified next season. The only thing that worries me is that we've said that in the last two seasons. There's two things that have got me rectified. It's our home form and scoring goals, and it's not. These things don't magic themselves. Players, we've got those suddenly turned into... It's like Sanogo, people say, "If Sanogo's goal wasn't disallowed, he might as well fly." No, it wouldn't. He was scored one goal. He's got an admin disallowed. If people say that, "Wicking, as soon as he gets one, he won't." The floodgates aren't going to open. He'll get one. We're not going to magically get goals from the players we've got. But Lassie, with his enthusiasm, his driving determination, will make some things happen. I'll be really interested to see whether they think they need to bring someone into the centre. They need to bring someone in just to say to the fans that there we are. Sure, maybe. We're not bringing somebody in for the sake of it. Just finally, there's part one. When you were talking there about these are the things we've talked about in the last couple of seasons. The home form and scoring goals. At what point do you have to admit that maybe it's not the playing squad, but maybe it's the system that pilots play? Well, we don't. I mean, there are still people who say it's not fully part of the squad yet that he's still playing with the cards that people have left him to an extent. Not just in terms of actual players, but in terms of the mentality that Pewley's put into the Palace team. He has been there over a year now. He has been there over a year. That's a good question. It is a good question. As I said last week, it's one of the new castles. Do you know the answer? No, that's not my job, is it? I just asked the question. And did you know the answer? No. I wasn't listening in. That's not my fault. Well, how do we play on the system? You can sort of, you know, end up agonising over that type of question a bit too much. You think it ultimately does come down to squads. I mean, if you, Lester, if you look at how they're playing this season, it comes down to the fact they've got, can take a huge guy at the base of them in fields, variety playing on certain outballs, and more buzz between the Lions and being in brilliant form. Ultimately, you can send out Barcelona and tell them to go and play a 4-4-2, but they've got such amazing players that it really is, you know, a fairly moot point. So part of it comes down to instruction. Part of it comes down to the fact you've got two fairly average fallbacks defensively. You've got a central midfield who aren't all that physical and can't bully anyone. And you've got a fairly predictable where playing going forward. And we could change the players, I suppose. And I've basically just flip-flopped on from my answer to the other day. I'm going to say it's both the system and the players. So there we go. As Oscar Wilde once said, it's the mark of a gentleman to hold two contrary opinions at the same time. But you look at Leicester now. It's already a maras we're missing for four or five games. They didn't score. They didn't score a goal. It turns out Ballassie is a much more important part of the team than we possibly thought of. But just in terms of his defensive work as well, which is clearly something we're very much missing. And also that he brought us that physicality that perhaps we haven't got in other parts of the pitch because he's without the physically the strongest player we've got and can take two or three defenders out the game. He'll be scared of him. Defenders are generally scared of him. I'm not sure we have anyone else in the final six. No, it's like that. No. Okay, right. Let's wrap up part one there. In part two, we've got questions from our listeners. So join us in a bit. Yes, welcome back to the five-year plan podcast. We've all calmed down a little bit. Yeah, we're about to get loads of questions from our listeners. I'm sure that will rile us up again. They probably won. Part 166 sponsored by JCIS, the Global Research and Brand Consultancy from South London. Visit JC-IS.com. I will. Thanks. And I'm just trying to get them in a little thing like that. I could become there. I didn't want to explain to you why we were doing it. But I'm doing it. Okay. Okay. And vector printing for your written embroidery needs. Go to vector.co.uk/ inspector-will-a. I will. Oh. Oh. Oh. You can win an exclusive FYP and-- I will. And shut up. Or vector with a K T-shirt by-- You've got it. We're giving away to these brand new T-shirts by going-- By tweeting, "I love @fypfanzine" and @vector.dot.dot with a K. Send that tweet out. We will see it and we will pick two winners from there. Of course, if you just want to buy a T-shirt and outright you can go to T-shirt monster, but that's Monster Without an E. Monster Without an E. Yeah. Yeah. T-shirtmonster.com/fyp. How are we-- How are we deciding who wins the-- Could be random. So we'll get all the people that do the tweets and then we'll just randomly choose-- Hell. How? I don't know. Put the names in a hat or something? I don't know. No, because people do today in terms of conditions. Oh, OK. We're going to put the names in a hat. Right. OK. Thank you. Compliance need to know these things. Right. First question comes from Karl Mortimer. Karl. Karl. Karl. Karl. And he says injuries.dot.dot. Do you think it's part of his method as he had a lot of injuries at Newcastle? And Pew List never had many if at all. What you mean is it his method, i.e. Is he purposefully making people get injured? Or is he training people to injury? I mean, make of that. You will. It's a bit ambiguous, isn't it? It's an interesting question, though. It's something else. Maybe it's the new Dezo pitch. Yeah. That's not an Irish name. I thought it was a new jazz album. It would be very good. We've seen it with Liverpool. Arsenal was well asked or sent to get more than the fresh air of injuries. Liverpool arguably clops, gone too physical with his own players. But I don't think there's really a pattern. I mean, apart from Schumacher, whose hamstring seems to keep going, there's not really... I think the answer is probably nothing to do with parties, because there's not really a pattern in the injuries. It's not. If three or four players were out with a similar injury, then you might say, yes, there was something wrong with training methods. But I think we're just... It's just unlucky. It's just not lucky. It's just not lucky. It's just that part of the season. Also slightly aging squad compared to squads in the past, maybe. It's maybe more prone to... Very good question, though. It's a good question, though. I'm sure if we look to the stats that we've improved wrong. I wasn't aware of the new... I'd be interested to look back at Newcastle and see... Yeah, there was speculation at the time that that was down to there, sort of training. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got no idea if that's... But he's very, very not, because it was said by lots of Newcastle fans. I think it is very cold. I don't think so, isn't it? It is pretty cold in the north, isn't it? Okay. Next question is from Rob Wall. Hi, brother. Hi, brother. He says, "Does Andy want to start a punk-rock band with me called Aggression to be Mean?" Best question ever. I think I'm a bit old to be in a punk-rock band, but why not? That is more of a pun on your constant mantra about regressing to the mean. Yeah, which we haven't actually mentioned once on this podcast yet. Because we said we'd hit him if he did, as well. Oh, yeah, that's a fair point. No, I'm not allowed to say the J.M. thing anymore. Do you hear him? Oh, right. We've all agreed not to. Well, there you go. He said, "That one can save regressing to the mean." Can you be an instrument? Right. You don't need to feel a punk-rock band? Yeah, fair point. Fair point. Fair point. Enders made him make a career out of it, you know. That's a good one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Shoegaze. Shut up, we were not shoegaze. I hate that term shoegaze. He can't see his shoes. He can't see his shoes. Oh, I could 25 years ago. Well, I was wearing winkle pickers. Don't know what they are. What's wrong with shoegaze? There is shoe. There is a shoe. It's a stupid point. There's home counties for music. Rubbish. I can't love that. I just want to postcard, please. That's my fishing number today. Right. So what sort of music was that? Can we move on, please? Sorry, I'm just interested. Can we move on? Yeah, because you haven't got the next question ready. Just move on. It's ready. Okay. Next one's from Mike O'Donnell. Hi, Mike. Hi, Mike. He says, "Though, as an American, I am enjoying the new Behind the Badge series behind the scenes documentary thing on NBC." Oh, I've not seen it. I've not seen it, though. I've seen it once. Very, very good. Behind the badge. Behind the badge. Awesome. We haven't won a league match since NBC started filming us. I don't really believe in Curtis and the like, but do you think it's impacted us negatively? Yeah, I believe in Curtis. I believe in Curtis. I believe it's impacted us negatively, yeah. I think so since the American money came in as well. It's all going to be. Well, yeah, that's totally a bit fair-shaped, doesn't it? It has a bit. It's just, you know, it's... I've been the quarterback. It's nothing to do. If the worker says we'll be able to locate the source and everyone kicked out of the ground, it's the same, a good luck in it. If we can find the person who's... No, that's true. It's just, it's just, we're just re-cressing to the mean. Yeah. That's quite work. It is done. Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, if you want to start saying it, give me that. I'm an articulate, intelligent man, and I couldn't think of any of my friends. It's the only, it's just driven out of my head. It's just, I've found myself saying it the other day in an office. Me too, it's interesting to me, and I think we're looking at it again. What are you talking about? You were your lawyer or something. Now, you know what my life is like. So, yeah, just sort of, you're going to be fine. Thank you. We love you. Yeah, well, he said that I don't charge for people. Oh, no, I do. Yeah, you do. I do. You do charge me. People have to listen to me, yeah. Like, he does. Okay. Not as much as the lawyer that I'm running. Yeah, yeah. You wait until all the... Very good questions, though. That's a good question, though. I'm going to ask you a second when all the lawyers are strong up in the guts of all the... ...and the world will be... Well, it is Elizabeth II. No, Richard Lissen. No, the Cleveland. So, I'm moving on. Moving on to next question. I'll check. Cool. This question is from Paul. Hi, Paul. Paul at The Wild Sea. It's nice to hear that we've got American listeners, by the way, from... Yeah, we have quite... We have a lot of listeners from around the world. Yeah. We've got absolute loads. You can go on sound cloud and see the stats where they listen to. We've got some... Okay, I'll do that later. We've got some very far-reaching... Just as you remember, JCL. I will. I will. I like that. I will. I will. Paul says, "Has any side in any division ever been mid to top half of a table this far into the league when none of the strikers have scored?" I think that's a... That's a good question, but we have discussed this before because it's kind of... I mean, bless you. Oh, dear. Sorry. That's bigger choices than that. It's hard to... Yeah, I think... How do you describe Will from Indiana, then, if not as strikers? I think it's a slight misnomer this. I guess, in that traditional sense, they were signed to be strikers. But you're right, the way we play is fluid, isn't it? I mean, for the last two seasons, virtually every club in the Premier League apart, from what? Has any had one striker? Anyway, so most clubs are only looking at eight or nine girls being scored by a striker. So I think it's a slight misnomer. We're not scoring enough goals full stop as a team. Doesn't matter whether it's a striker scoring or more. Yeah, because there are a lot of clubs where the main striker doesn't score many goals, but the midfield players and the why players chip in, so we just not... But it's a good question because if you look at our... And it's... Shame is our goal differences on South as well, but it is a good question because you look at the amount of goals, but it's still not the lowest score in the league, though. No, no. No, not at all. I mean, I've got no idea. We certainly remember the lowest score was in the top six, top eight, whatever, but we're not. It's got to be village, surely. Yeah, there's other clubs who have scored as few goals a little. Sunderland, probably Sunderland, yeah. It does make you think both what could have happened if we did have a striker. Exactly, so it's a one. Wow, we're doing really well to be doing that. But also, like you say, if we did have a striker, maybe we could really be... Well, we'd have got one goal, then the gates would have opened. Yeah, but I'd see... For a start, we didn't expect Wickham to be out for quite as long as he was in the start. Yeah. So you don't know what would have happened if, you know, presumably the system would have been slightly different. Bamford, we all thought Bamford wasn't a bad shot, that he would possibly weigh him with some goals. I mean, it was impossible to predict that this would happen. It's not necessarily the style of play that's causing him, but it is a good question. Yeah, very good. Oh, sorry. Only Villa, out of the bottom five, have scored few, isn't it? Really? Yeah. Something that scored more? How's that? New car's left? Norwich, I've born with half, right? Well, good step. Yeah, yeah. Not very good step. Well, I'm just basically reading the lead tabs out from a five over one over one over one. It's a good step. Okay, I got quite... I'm going to crack on quite a lot of questions to get through. Okay, that's fine. James Duff whistle. Hi, James. Says, "Is our massive dip in form due to your changing in theme tune music?" No, I've ever... What did you change in tune music? What did you do now? I don't even know. What did you do now? What did you do now? You have theme music. We just felt like changing it up. Why? Because we were fizzing the table. No, we were talking about... You'd be around me around there, yeah. We've got Americans asking us where the curse is coming from. And the answer's sitting right across from the table. Are you serious? No, so why did you do that? So why are you thinking about it? He wrote it. He wrote it? It's not even a problem. What did you say? What did you say? I didn't write it. I didn't make it off Apple Loops. What? You committed a crime. Well, no, they're... Well, whatever it was... I'm not sure I can make one, six, seven. Change it back. Shall we change it back? Change it back. Change it back. Change it back. Change it back, yeah. Change it back. Like this. Immediately after the ball of uncertainty results, you should have known it was going wrong. Well, I've got kids... Change it back after the next... Oh, no, because we've got a league, aren't we? Well, they teach you at schools about luck and superstition. Do you change it back for this podcast? Yeah, all right. Change it. So if you're listening to this, and you've heard the old theme... This is right. This is right, yeah. Exactly, yeah. Oh, it's perfect. You got that sorted out. I would love it if we change it back, and Palace got on a fantastic run. Yeah, absolutely. We will do. We will do. We'd all love it, and it'd be your fault you'd push. Yeah. It'd be here. Jesus Christ. We can't believe it. We can't believe it. We've got a different refresh. No, no, no, no, no, no. As I was saying, now, it sounds horrible. We've watched the brand. So I've changed it to be great with that. It's not going the wrong way out of the pub. We're going out of a different door from the pub on next day. Why would you do that for? Even if you've lost 10 games in a row, you don't get out of a different door on match day. Well, you don't. What if the one door is like shut? Well, we don't. Well, you stay in the pub then, isn't it? Okay. It's a matter of principle. You stay there until all of it opens, or it's... Yeah. ...you don't have to stay there. Okay. You're the first thing that we don't do. You don't. It's like turning right out of the bunny hole. You don't do that. You don't change theme tunes after a season when we're doing really well. All right. We'll change it back. Right. Thank you. We've got that in the public school. Oh, that's cool. Right. What do you mean? I don't really know. He's starting to be really important. You don't do different things. You can't? Right. You're not actually fipping the Premier League. You had the same food until season now? Right. Okay. We're going to change the theme tune back. Right. Next question. It's gone. It's gone. It's gone. Dad, you know, I hope you'll do. It's standing out like a whippet, shivering, and it's freezing cold. Right. Right. Eight stone. Superstition. You're such an idiot. It's like a swearing yourself on a James Joyce stream of consciousness right now. All right. Next question is from Simon Allen. Simon Allen. He says, "Do you think our lack of goals is due to missing a number 10 as opposed to somebody up top?" No. It's due to some fuck, which end of the time. I think we've actually taken that quite clearly. Right. Okay. I'm going to find some other questions. Yeah. Matt. Sorry. Sorry, Simon. Sorry. It's a good question. It's a good question. The question that we'll answer is properly gone. Okay. Well, I have to go back and find a question again. Do you think our lack of goals is due to missing a number 10 as opposed to someone up top? I think it's a really good question. I think there's not a natural number 10 in that squad. Jason Puntin. I'm not sure he's a natural number 10, frankly. He played there well for six months. But he's not played as a number 10 throughout his entire career. And arguably, he did have in his early pilot's days on the period, did have some very good form out on the wing then. Everyone seemed to sort of re-imagine him as this sort of dynamic number 10, partially because he played that role a little bit on the part of the last season was pretty good in it. And because he started this season there and there was a whole sort of three of him with Kebay and MacArthur binding that I think people quite like the idea of. But I'm just not entirely sure that he is an actual number 10. And certainly, whether you want to make that argument one way or the other, we've now got no one to play in that position in his absence anyway. Now he's had to shift out wide and to sort of fulfil that role pretty well. So, no, I think it is a big problem actually. And at least it's something that we've spoken about sort of in previous weeks today. I'd be interested to see, if you look at the purest season, I'd be interested to see where our goals came from because purest played in particular style, we got the ball forward as quickly as possible, mainly in order to try and win three kicks and score from there. I just off the top of my head, I would imagine we'd probably scored as few goals from the recognised striker under purest. Yeah. And what we expected, I think, piled you hinted all the way through the close season that we would be playing a more attractive game and more. And the fact is, we can talk about strikers for as long as we want, but the midfield, they've got to be creative somewhere. We've had a midfield that's pretty much bypassed under First Holloway and then purest. In that, the midfield has spent a lot of time watching the ball going over their heads and scrapping for the second ball, but the midfield have got to take responsibility for creativity. And the fact is that two of the midfield are playing so deep, and especially the one that we all hoped would not be playing as deep as we could buy. And the fact is that we simply haven't got the creative person in midfield or other, because for all the talk of players like Kante and DMS, for all the talk of big, strong ball-winning midfield players, other clubs have got creative midfield players around them. We simply haven't got that. We've fought. And the only time we did see that happening against Newcastle, it worked very well. But there again, you have to say it was against the players team in the Premier League at the time. But we get the ball wide too quickly, so as I'm concerned, we need a Charlie Austin. We need somebody in midfield that sort of player, somebody in midfield who can change it up, who can play a short ball or a long ball or hold the ball or change the tempo. We can't seem to dictate the tempo of the game, especially at home. And it's probably the key to the home for us. Second half of that Pulis season, punched and scored seven or eight goals in the second half of season, it's something like that, from a central dumb attempt position. So that's why I get frustrated with him, because I feel like he definitely can do it. And something's not going right somewhere where we're not maximising him and getting the best out of him. Yeah, that's true. You're right. You're right. You're right. He's one of the genuinely Premier League quality players we've got. He's a real match winner. Yeah, he's a real match winner, but something's not quite happening. Okay, next question then is from Lima Bride, aka Pete the Eagle, and he says, he's written pod question in capital letters, because I never read out his questions, so here we go. Having watched the Burgess Hill Panto recently, sponsored by Vecta - oh, the horse. Oh, it's sponsored by Vecta or Vecta? He watched his Panto the other day. If FYP was a Panto, who would play each of the traditional roles? Oh, good. Well, in true theatrical style, as all the actors always say, I would, of course, give you my dick. That's what the actors love that too. Oh, okay. It's the same. In Shakespeare, I showed my, I gave my bottom in Shakespeare, I gave my dick and dick to do, yes, we know you talk about him, implying that you've got your penis out of order. Well, I don't know, end it, of course, I don't know, I probably would have been a weirdo drinking. I think it does that to be a twine kick. I want to be a female, definitely. You two would be babes in the wood, wouldn't you? It'd be buttons, wouldn't you? It'd be buttons. It'd be buttons. That'd be a very good, I'd be very fast. I'd be a really annoying button. It'd be a very good button. I'd be a very good button. Well, isn't this time you slapped your fire? It'd fall over. You'd knock yourself out. No, no, I'd start going down the gym, mate. Oh, yeah, you showed us your guns at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll refer you back to my cat, not only sneezes, it was a bigger bicep. Actually, that's a good question. I don't know any other characters, but... Oh, yeah, you do. Oh, yes you do. It's got a panto. Good. How many times are we going to start? It's not a point, is it? No, it's not a point. Right. I'm going to try and squeeze it. Oh, I think one? Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah. Are you could have Prince Charming? Mmm. The wicked witch, the ugly sisters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got enough characters there, so... Thanks. Really talk about this. Really talk about this. Yeah, but it's still panto, isn't it? It's actually your favourite Christmas character. It's still panto, isn't it? It's still panto, isn't it? It's still panto, isn't it? It's still panto, isn't it? It's still panto, isn't it? It's still panto, isn't it? It's still panto, isn't it? It's still panto, isn't it? It's still panto, isn't it? It's still panto, isn't it? It's still panto, isn't it? You could be wishy-washy. It doesn't exist, which is why he's able to change your theme music halfway through with that. Right. Matt Philip Harris says, "If you could pick a palace player to model the sexy new FIP t-shirts, who would it be, and why?" Well, you know, I know he would look good on, but I've only had to mention it. Is it Jerry Murphy? It probably did pick for him now. I think we should do, we should do what they do at the player of the year, and pick two of the first things to go to that really, really embarrassing. Yeah. You know, it's a haze of dry ice, standing with a new kiln. I don't know who would you charge, who's, well, let's choose, let's choose our top gold scorer. Oh, I'm gold. It's our top gold scorer. It's our own gold, our top gold scorer. No. I'd pick it surely. I think it's goodbye, isn't it? I think it's goodbye before. Oh, yeah, we've got five. No, we've got five. Five, no, he's got five. I'd pick duels to model the t-shirt. You've got to do something. It's really cold on the bench. It's a bit boring at the moment, isn't it? We'll get duels there. We'll get duels as well, because it's interesting that Pardue went out of his way to praise Hennessy after the Tottenham game. So he's back on form after two really bad games. Yeah, he was okay. He was okay. He made one good save from Rose. He made a save because he's a got keeper. He's okay. He didn't make it, he didn't make it blunder. He didn't make it mistake. Oh, that's great, isn't it? Sorry. That was fun. That was fun. It's a step in the right direction. It's a step in the right direction. That was fun. It was a step in the wrong direction. No, it was fun. Very good. Very good. Right, final few questions then. I've got these, this image now that Kev just wakes up in the middle, not going to have footwork. Regression's going to be footwork. For work. Sorry, I think. Mr. Stesser. Oh, Mr. Stesser. Hi, Mr. Stesser. It says, if we'd start, this is more of a serious question. If we'd started the season poorly and gone on to a good run, as we have done in previously seasons, to get where we are now, would the mood amongst the fans be different? You know, I always, it's, I've always done since I was a kid, is every time you, I've had more practice than you, but at losing. But every time, so for example, when I look at the lead table after the Tottenham game, I pretend that we've won to go on to 31 points. And it actually does, when you do it like that, it does make you feel, because then you look at the table when you go, actually, we're only a couple of points behind menu, and we're ahead of Chelsea. And so it's quite a good exercise sometimes to do that. I mean, the interesting thing to somebody pointing out the other day, purely out of sort of stirring it a little bit, that if this has been our start to the season, everybody would be saying, well, we need to do manager. Yeah, because we know it's a good manager, we don't. I do think one of the problems is, I don't know if people laugh at me, and I think it's not all conspiracy-free, but I do think, it's like, when Colin Cheney talks about Newcastle being a bit too nice at the moment. And I think, because Pardier is keen to get the England job, I think a bit of the devil has gone out of our team a little bit. A bit of the deli. But a bit of the, there's not, there's no real, street he talks about, no, I'm really being frightened, it's not necessarily because of the size of our players, it's just a quite aggressive team, we're quite an antsy team. And that seems to have gone a little bit, seems to have gone a little bit, because we have talked about us being bigger and thinner than previous years. And I think there's a slight, there's a bit of an eagle missing out of our game, a bit of an edge. Albeit, we are still getting too many yellow cards, and they're not always deserved. But in a way, that's why the wick of thing was terrible and idiotic, but you do want to see a bit of, you want to see a bit of sticking out for yourself, which we haven't really... Is that because we try to play, change the way we play, and when you're playing more defensively, it's a bit more easy, isn't it? You've started to be questions that I've got no actual way of knowing the answers. Otherwise you'd be a football manager. I'm throwing theories out to you. I don't know what the answer is, and it's probably just purely anecdotal, but to me it just seems that we haven't got that little... It talks about, what we know about the previous team is that if we won the lap or won or we would hold onto it by a hook or by a crook, where it's by time wasting or hurting somebody or doing what we had to do. And that seems to have gone out of that game. Well, I feel like it's had that game management. We're learning still to be a Premier League team. We are still learning. Maybe at the beginning of the season we thought we'd come along leaps and bounds, which I think we have done. But I think now our real place in the Premier Championship is probably where we are now. I can't, they held down frankly. We played three out of the top six in six games. As we keep on saying that, the only really bad result in there was the Villa one. Yeah, it's not great that we're not scoring in those matches either. But we've got a far more comfortable run coming up with some winnable games there. You can see people talking about potential relegation. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's just ludicrous. Also, the Villa 11 points ahead of where we were this time. Yeah. The Villa game also is probably the only really bad performance and horrible day of the season. Yes. Really, isn't it? I don't know. That's not bad. That's a sort of right at the top. I do think we'll be sitting here in April and May going, "What was that?" Yeah, but we need stuff to talk about, don't we? But at the moment it does feel, it feels like, it doesn't feel like a blip. It feels like there's something a bit wrong at the moment. So, let's put it this way. I'm looking forward to Europe. Yeah, put it that way. The Euros. I'm looking forward to Europe. Oh, okay. Bold. Okay. Well, speaking of Europe... Well, that's sort of music. Speaking of not Europe, but... Final count, downkit chain. Final count, downkit chain. Final question then. You must know that sort. No, I have, I have. I'm trying to wrap it up. The next final question is from Martin. Oh, I love it. It says, "Today, Monday, is..." Why do you look like you watch? Because I've got... It tells you what day of the weekend is. Oh, very cool. Watch. See, you just know that. You forget. Is that serious? In case you forget what day you're going to watch. No. In that moment, I wasn't sure what... Anyway, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's a serial packet still gave watching. What do you have to do with eBay for 10 quid? Well, you don't do anything all day. It's kind of easy, it's a trap point. No, it's actually very true. That's why he doesn't like it. You know, every day's not a Saturday to JD, so you have to know whether it's actual Saturday or fake Saturday or fake Saturday. The week's Saturday. It's like the answer to the old question, "Why does an actor not look out the window in the morning?" So he's got something to look forward to in the afternoon. LAUGHTER Oh, yeah. I understand that. Today, Martin says, "Today is..." "Today is Australia Day." Oh. Oh, that's Australia today. Good day. Which part? That with time difference, is it now yesterday? Oh, shut up, Martin. Which doesn't matter. Yeah, it will be now. Yeah, that was why I didn't... I've ruined it. I've ruined it. I've ruined it. Yeah, yeah. We're going to gloss over that. Today is Australia Day. Which past or present, Palace Aussie, should be Australian of the year? And why? Well, I think Jeddon X, by far the best Australian player we've ever seen. The best Australian player we've ever... Colvier. Colvier. Nikki Rizzo. Nikki Cole. Nikki Cole. Oh, yeah. The only one... The only one... My least favourite Palace player was Australian. It was Kevin Muskert. Kevin Rugrat. Yeah. Couldn't have by... He didn't have a lot of fans. I don't think I panicked. Well, he's one of those rare players who did seem to enjoy actually went out to hurt people. Whereas Mark Dennis, who really hurt people, I genuinely liked. There's Musk out of the stomach. It's got to be Jedi. It's got to be Jedi. It's got to be Jedi. It would have been Tim Cahill of Jordan and cocked up that transfer so badly. Well, maybe we could get a tiny machine to bring it back to me. Maybe we'll do that in the next part. Yeah. But Jedi certainly is... It's got to be a Jedi, right? I don't say he represents all those Australia values that they probably like to talk about. Well, like facial hair. Well, he's upright, honest. Straight forward. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. All that sort of stuff. Yeah. Well, it's official. Jedi is Australian of the Year, so congrats to him. Well done to Australia as well. Yeah. For having a day. Well done. Even though it's tomorrow, yes, the weather. Well, we've probably got quite a few Australian listeners, so happy Australia Day. Yeah, happy Australia Day. Yeah, happy Australia Day. Have a good day off. Have a good one. Have a beach. Right. 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You also go to T-shirt monster. That brilliant Brendan Gleason film, the Guardian looks a bit like this simple little one. There's a simple little peasant boy in there as well. But he's not simple. He's not. He's not. He's not in any way. Right. Anyway, go to t-shirt-monster.com/fip to buy one of the cool new FIP T-shirts. Right. It's in this week. We're going back in time. Ooh. And the first time I came back to you. Back in time to December and changing the theme tune. Are we going back any time in the last eight years? Are we going back to March, you speak? Since we did February last week. Yeah. Can we get them? Yeah. That was my fault last week. I guess. Whoa. Did you hear that? Yeah. I apologize. It was my fault. It was combined. It was combined. Mine. Mine. It's calling it back now. Rob should have noticed. But I did send him the wrong pictures. But we'll go back to Jan. So, January. First time. January the 24th, which is actually not in this week. But I'm going to go back to it anyway. January the 24th. It's quite a memorable one. Not for really good reasons. I've already played it. Yeah. Oh, 2001. Oh, OK. Thank you for the administration. Palace? No. Well, we were in the administration. Oh, we were in the administration. Oh, no. We'd come out of it. We'd come out. 2001. Yeah. Oh, did we lose to Liverpool? Five nil. Yeah. Yeah. I thought we'd have already done that one. How are we? In the loop up. Yeah. We've done that. You've done that last week. You've not done that. No, it was the week before last when you went ahead. Oh, no, we did the first leg. Oh. Yes. And we were all excited between that week and that week. That's right. Because we thought we were going to go through again. Yeah. Yeah. And now we've realised that, yeah, we've never lost five. Last week we jumped ahead to February so we knew because we were looking back. Yeah. Yeah. On something that we'd travelled forward to and then look back on. Yeah. This is getting very confusing. Yeah. So anyway, Palace lost five nil. It was... Thanks for reminding us of that, JD. Brilliant. Yeah. It was a... It was a weird one. It was a weird one. It was a weird one because we did the last one. It was a weird one because we were... First leg. First leg played very well. But also the cup run sort of masked by this, by January, that our league form really started to tumble. Yeah. Of course we ended up in that game at Stockport. Yeah. We were freed by the squad in the last minute. But the league cup run, I think, given us a little bit of a kick in the league, hadn't it? We had a tiny bit of a bump up. And then it fell off a cliff after we went out at the end of January. Yeah. And then we went from sort of bad to worse. Yeah. Ultimately culminating as you say, I don't know if you said it or not because it really wasn't listening to that cup yet. But culminating that game with the throwing season tickets against Wolves. Yeah. Yeah. The last time we got to... And it's what a great... When Calinko bombed the cross that was going over his crossbar like into the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Under no pressure from anyone. That was Smith who was going to have self-gates and manager for a long time. Possibly still is actually. Oh, okay. Interesting. He follows us on Twitter. He does tweet to FIP now and then on Twitter. Oh, it's nice. Yeah. It was a great coach. Maybe play some really good football I do even too. Yeah. We've got really good. He's got a really good reputation. He's got some great stories about Simon Jordan as well. He'll tweet a couple of those in. We will. It's not for the podcast. Let's move on to another day. 26th of January 1981. Oh, that's my objective. That's my objective. That's my objective. The new owner of Crystal Palace, a certain... Ronald Nodes. Ronald Nodes, correct. Turned up to meet his staff. Any idea what he did for his first protocol to do was? Gave him a pay cut. No, it doesn't say that. Possibly, but it doesn't say that. Sacked half of them. You're an idiot there. Terry Barfield, he was the only one who had a job. Possibly? Was Terry working? Did he say that once? He did. No, Terry's been there 24 years now. So, 91, then 91. Yeah. I assume he's just part of the fix. He's in the fittings and you get him when you buy the club. He does. He sleeps upside down in the club shop. He's up. That was a big debate with the Americans when they put their money. They keep the Terry. They keep the Terry. So, what did everyone know to do? What was the first thing he did when he met his new staff? Well, he would have turned up in his light blue Rolls Royce. He was very close a minute ago. He sacked someone in particular on the manager. Who was? Camalescent. Camalescent. Yeah. And then made the single-handedly worst mistake any palace club owners ever? For a simple... Because he didn't have Google in those days, so he couldn't do that. He couldn't Google out of money. Yeah. And he just wondered why... I've been there for a while. Why are they putting their own manager onto the pitch? There's still completely incomprehensible decision. I'm still across about that. About changing the... But getting out of money, he clearly hadn't bothered to ask anybody about the new managers. Yeah. Basically. Because you got rid of a beard part. I mean, Alison, she never had come back. Alison was in charge for 55 days. Yeah. That's like a one. Right. Wednesday, the 27th of January, 1999. Ooh. Chairman Mark Goldberg. Oh. I'm managing the... We haven't... Whoa. I forgot him. This guy from Badton. Okay. Goldberg and Phil Alexander went to a meeting of the Palace Independent Supporters Association. Peezer. Peezer. In Croydon. Yeah. To face questions. Yeah, weren't they? Yeah, Peezer. Were they? Yeah, leaning... He's leaning to our Peezer. Can we... Oh, that was... Okay. Sorry. I thought you were just about to get us to... I'm sitting next to him so I was aware that he was looking for a pizza joke. Okay. He didn't find a pizza joke. Just to confirm. Just to confirm. That was a pizza joke and we weren't being led to just... They went to a meeting in Croydon to face questions from the fans, increasingly concerned at the perilous financial position of the club. Goldberg promised the supporters he will clear Palace's £4 million debt by May. Yeah. That didn't happen. No, it wasn't. Was that... Was it him who turned up with security? Was it Jordan at his first? No, I think it was Goldberg. Is that Goldberg? I don't know if I can. Yeah. He brought Mullins and Morrison on the stage with the month. I know that one. The subsequent one. But he was so pointed out that the big guy at the back was some blokey, ran a local firm. I thought... Was that Jordan? I think that was Jordan. Yeah. Yeah. Goldberg was just... He was just a lovable idiot basically. Yeah. He did what we would have all done. He did what we would have all done. He basically did what we would have all done. It was a lot of money. We found ourselves in charge of Palace. He just got out with the bacteria of animals basically. And this big solid gold wheelbarrow. Oh boy, oh boy. Yeah. You know the Hillsborough game in 2010 where obviously we drew two, two instead up. Street and I were there with a few friends. And we walked out and Goldberg was right outside their way in. And everyone was quite jubilant. And we all thought that a big group hug with him in the middle. Go back in the middle. All of us on the outside. And then we all came away from the hugging. We were like, that feels weird. Why have we discovered Goldberg? He made this speech at this Palace here. He's very honest about being an idiot. He doesn't try and pretend he was anything other than somebody who was... Because apparently he's a legend in his temporary recruitment away. Whatever it was, his background. And he did make a lot of money. But he freely admits that that didn't equip him to manage it. Or own a football club. But he just thought he was doing the right thing and saving Palace. Much like the... The owner after him. Yeah, yeah. Exactly, yeah. But he's a nice... Well, except he's in quite a nice bloke. Yeah, Goldberg basically. And now man you're at Bromley. Still man you're at Bromley? Yeah, they've done a spectacular fall from Greece. They started out for really... Well, he made himself manage it. Because he took over the club and then... Alright. So is he still chairman and manager? As far as I know, yeah, he still... That's exactly what Robert was doing. Well, no, it was the same thing on Brentford, was it? Yeah. And Robert was manager at Palace during that crazy prima league season when Lombardo became manager. No, it was manager for one or two games. Was he? Yeah. That's interesting. There was a clip of Lombardo on... Was it all football focus on Saturday? Really? Yeah. They were talking about the new Italian manager for Swansea. Oh, Swansea? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they showed a clip of all the... Maybe matched the deal, maybe it was football focus. Then they showed a clip of all the previous... I think he's the nine Italian manager to great support. Wow. They showed Lombardo being interviewed and he said... Another question was, it was very funny. He said something like, "Is this the worst situation you've ever been in your career?" Yes. Well, do you know what else you're saying? It was fair enough. Something like that. There was one thing that Goldberg got cross about and somebody asked him what he thought was an idiot question. So it might be me. But he said, this rumor that Lombardo Brolin couldn't speak English was rubbish. He said, "Brolin couldn't speak." He said, "Lombardo could but just chose not to." Oh, really? So it was like... What do you mean? He said, "Well, he could speak something." He was like... I'm not an idiot. I wouldn't put somebody in chat. I think he could improve the audience. OK, right. He's featured in the talk. Oh, they did. Brolin couldn't speak English. Apparently not. Because that was the thing at the time we had. He was the translator. He couldn't... I thought he'd get his hand vacuum cleaned. And then high heel chews. Yeah. For all transfer stats mainly. It was his main market. Really? Yes. He marketed a special type of high heel chews that men could wear. Fantastic. They look good. That's amazing. I'm confident. Very, very confident. You and I find it hard to get a high heel down. Absolutely. And they're very comfortable. Final update, then. Update, final memory or whatever you want to call it. It's from 28th of January 2000. Oh. Who did Palace Cell for £600,000 to chill on? Matt Spencer. You read that over my shoulder. I did that over there. Matt Spencer. Oh. Do you remember him? No, I don't. Sweetest, sweetest. Is he sweet? He's really with him. He likes fencing. He surprised me. Do you ever... I want you to interview Matt Jansen. Possibly. Oh, dreamy. Possibly. Really? Possibly. Once we can get the court order overturned. Yeah. He got that sorted out first. Matt Spencer was a very good striker. I don't know. He was a nice striker, I don't remember. Did we sign him from Norwich? I'm going to say that we did. We did, yes. Oh, no. I think we signed him from somewhere random and then he went to total and then went to Norwich. He went to Norwich eventually and then knocked him out in English for a little while. Yeah, he was pretty good. He was good. He was a few guys for Paris. Yep, yep. Don't remember. Right. You don't remember him. Okay. No, no, no, no. We've only had some generations to pass you by. Let's see. Right. That's it for going back in time this week. Of course. I'm all found out where I am right now. Right back. I'll be back. We're going to come back into the present for part four where we look for... 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And you're going to draw to win one of our cool T-shirts. You can also check out the T-shirts on t-shirt-monster dot com forward slash F.I.P. Right. We got two... All right. We got... Two games to get through before next pod. Ooh. Uh, because we got Stoke at Home in the FA Cup for th round on Saturday. And then a very big game at home to Bournemouth on Tuesday night. We've got a question that I've saved from part two to Jukin now from Michael Cavendish. Hi Michael. It says, "Should pardon you throw everything in the dressing room at Stoke and lock down an FA Cup win in the face of a midweek league game after?" So what would you rather see? I think that's a very interesting question. I think the attitude to the Cup game has changed somewhat. I think if we were still fifth and we won a couple of the last three games, we'd probably say, "Yeah, let's win the FA Cup. Let's go for it." I suspect with the game against Bournemouth coming up, the FA Cup might be on the back burner a little bit more. I would say play your strongest team against Stoke and your strongest team against? I think Pardee will do. I mean, he's talked in the past about momentum. Well, he's talked about momentum, but I think Pardee will do. Because he really showed about momentum. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. I think Pardee will do. But I think, in an ideal world, a new striker will be making this debut against Stoke. Yeah, yes. And then getting yourself fit enough to start against Bournemouth. I still suspect that won't happen. But I think the FA Cup is a tournament that's there for a club like Palace to have a decent go at. But with a caveat that I won't be that fast if we go out of it. But the five league games following are much more important. The Bournemouth game has become quite a big game, hasn't it? Really? As a result, there's more so. Always would have been. More so than you would like it. Yeah. In a funny sort of way, I kind of think the way Bournemouth played, way from home, they will be one of the few teams that play into our hands because they will leave space behind to us. As long as we attack, as long as we go direct and go attacking against Bournemouth, try and get that first goal. Because Palace is record and they get it. I know it's quite good, isn't it? Yeah. Stryker-wise, they'll probably be no Wicom. I'd imagine. Wicomans gone, man. Wicomans gone. The Wicomans gone. He's burnt, man. Maren Schimak had a very good performance for the only 21s today. They drew 3-3 against someone. That must have been very odd. Yeah, really odd. He played and played very well, apparently. If his hands were up to it, would you stick him up top on set? He'd stick him up top on set today. But his hamstrings aren't out to it, are they? No, they're probably. And the best way in the world is a huge goal between... You'd expect him to play one of the under-21s. He was getting a milwool for God's sake. I could play one of the under-21s and then there was a huge goal between the four. I mean, it's for his fitness. Look, Schimak's an international class Premier League player, or he was. And if he's fit and available towards the end of last season, he was playing really, really well. And even in the game that he got injured. His injury came about because he was on a run where he was... He was driving at the heart of Swan's defense. And in fact, he was playing in a slightly more dynamic style towards the end of last season. He was more direct, but he wasn't just playing with his back to goal. And yes, in the absence of any other... Yes, you'd play him. But also the fact is you've got to get... Players have got to get closer to him. That's the trouble. You can't expect him to hold the ball up for a minute where he won trundles. Well, I was thinking about Wickham on Saturday, because I think he played well, but there was times when the ball got up to him and he was quite isolated. And it actually wasn't a lot of support. We saw that a lot with Murray, but the fact that what Murray was building, that was getting three kicks. Murray was a proper old-fashioned centre forward who could play facing both ways. And the amount of three kicks Murray got because he would... I don't think Wickham's got that now. Yeah, I think he will do, because he's only a kid, really. And he's got the physique for it. I think he will be a very good player, but he hasn't got that sort of guile that Murray had. Again, we talked about a bit of nastiness. Murray had that. Well, Wickham did show a bit of nastiness. Yeah, he did. Murray showed it in the right place. Yeah. I mean, Murray got his foot in and he got his... Yeah. You do still need that in forward. It's a little physical game. You need to protect yourself and defend yourself. Do you think... Schmak is a play... It's got that guile, it's got that. And I think what will happen with Schmak is even if the players don't get up supporting me, he will buy a bit of time. Andy will get you three kicks in and around the box, because at the moment our best chance of scoring goals is from, as we saw when we hit the bar twice. Yeah. Yeah. With Wickham, and this isn't particularly helpful right now, but do you think Wickham might be someone like Murray who might sort of flourish later in his career? I think Wickham... It clearly pours you. From what I gather, it pours you really rates Wickham, really rates him, and went out and lim and persuaded the parish that we wanted to spend that much money on him. I mean, Wickham will be a really good player, but I think you have to remember he's still only 22. Yeah. Which of Premier League... He's young. He's hard, he's much younger than that. Hard, he's been around much longer. Yeah. And I think Wickham is a player that we should keep for the future, but he's not the answer to the short-term goal problem. And normal Schmak being. I don't think... Because even when Schmak has been playing well for us, he's not. Yeah. He's never rebooted out of here. The last cup game I actually thought... Fraser Campbell had a quite a good game at Southampton. Yeah. And he's not the answer, but... It's going to have to be the next few years. Yeah. But I actually thought he played OK? I'm sure he'll be playing on Saturday. We'll have to change the way we play them, because he's a completely different player to... Yeah. And I still think why not... If you... When Wickham's for it, I'll play 4-4-2, give it a go. Give something else a try, because at the moment, what's happening isn't working. I agree. Yeah. And we did that against Newcastle. Sort of. Sort of. And what would have shown it can work, and a couple other teams experimenting with it. Yeah. Even if it's 4-4-1-1, or whatever you want to call it, just try that combination of... Somebody can win the ball in the end, somebody fast off them, it's like... And then that would really upset Dwight Gail, because he'll say, "Well, I can do that with me." He will, exactly. I do agree, and as we hinted in the first part of the podcast, I do wonder that if part of it is down to the fact that the system isn't quite right there. At the moment of the way we play, so... We've also found out the answer to the Johnny Williams question, which we asked last week in the week. Oh, he's gone to them, he's gone to them. Oh, he's gone to them, he's gone to them. He does like him. He doesn't like him. Wasn't... On an emergency loan. Is that what it is? It is. Which is a bit of a fast. They must be. An emergency loan. What, for us, are them? Well... How much do you hate him? You're supposed to, in normal circumstance, only be able to play for two teams in the season. You are. But football league's got some sort of special exemption, which means it is. It's an emergency loan, even though it's a lot like every other form of loan. That makes it during the transfer window for three months. You have to prove a certain percentage of your squad has to be certified injured. You get an emergency loan. You have to approve that you couldn't... Do you need to have been turned down by fire? It's old rules, but there are normally... Of course there are other rules. But normally the football league only apply them normally for goalkeepers and central defenders, like positions that are... You wouldn't deny a team of goalkeeper, for example. Well, it depends on that. That's what you're talking about. Because that's what you have to score. But for a midfield player, I'm amazed they've allowed it to happen. But it's because we... Possibly how we meet was... He's another option, but clearly partied anymore. Not anymore. No. Okay. Great. He's going to be one of the big unanswered questions in the audience. I think so. Forever. Forever. He looked like he was going to be a really, really, really good footballer. I can't really see him getting a run in the Palace. No. I can't see him playing for a Premier League team. Unless he plays for the Champions League team that get promoted and sold. Yeah, I think we're all having to come to terms with the fact that it's probably not going to work out. Wasn't he still getting in the world squad? Yeah, I think so. Really? There's squad. I don't know if he's playing, but getting in the squad. Well, that's not a particularly positive note. Well, that's not then. That's not ending on that. Okay. Well, prediction is end for two games. I think... I'm going to go for a low scoring win in both. I'll take that. I think. Well, no. Don't point to say that. I'll take that because it's not... Not actually on. It's not actually me decided. Okay. It doesn't work. All right. This is now the you. I've loved one. The epic game will be a score draw, and I think we will be boomerph. I'll be interested to see what happens with this crowd, again, Stoke as well. Keep tickets. I'm only doing cheap tickets. The good Cheats, which is good. Thank you, Club, for cheap tickets. Yeah, that is very good. That is good, but I also think it's a reflection of the fact that they know a lot of people... Well, no bother. ...may not bother. This is not a particularly... You say to themselves, "My birthday partner, everyone." Yeah, because it's not a particularly attractive tie, is it? Five of them are great teams. It's great. No, it's pretty good. It's very good. And they should be congratulated for it. Yeah. Well, do go down, Bally's fans. I bought my two seats today, actually, online. Oh, tell me where you are. I'll sit next to you then. All right. Andy, productions. I think Neil, Neil, and then Neil, Neil. Brilliant. Why have I gone to him last? I should have gone to him first. I'll take both of them. I'll take both of them. I'll take them, Neil. Okay. Right. That's it. What about you? What about you? Yes, come on. I think one Neil, Bally's, in both games. There you go. That is positive. That is positive. That is positive. Good. There we go. Thank you very much. We were so close to implementing that. Very close. Thank you for listening. You'll hear from us next week after the Bournemouth and Stoke games. So, goodbye. Bye. It's time to get your checking account to zero with three checking from Penfen. That's zero ATM fees, zero balance requirements, and zero time. Spend waiting for your paycheck to direct deposit because you can receive it up to two days early. Open your account with just $25 and see how big zero can be. Apply online today at penfed.org/freechecking. Early direct deposit eligibility may vary between pay periods and timing of payers funding. To receive any advertised product, you must become a member of Penfen in short by NCUA. 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