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[MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] If we were six and pure this was still manager, the podcast would probably be four hours long while we moaned about the sort of football we played. We'd be overachieving. Yeah, and we'd be wondering why we can't sell season tickets, but we're actually playing some really good football as well. We're playing, you'd actually look forward to going out to home games now. There's so many seasons in the past. We'd be surprised ourselves out in the portions. You know, because you know, how many games we've just got? It's not, we know what's going to happen. It's going to be, you know, usually 19 in a season. Yeah. Yeah, you actually look forward to going. You actually look forward to going to games now because we are trying to play football all the time. We're progressing. Good. And we're going to progress from part one into part two. I just knew that. Yeah, it's so seamless. See, you can tell he's got an agent now. 159 pods layer. So you've got a pod agent. Yeah, pod agent. Yeah, I'm looking at other pods. If I know the pods want to employ me, then I'm very cheap. That's free. Right. We're going to in part two. In part two, we've got questions from our listeners. So, see you in a bit. [MUSIC] Hello, this is Welcome back to the five-year-time pod car. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] Ah, that reminds me of one of my favourite ever pod moments. JD opened on the Christmas board of 2012. How you home is this? Well, we'll get to that in a few weeks' time. So, I'm going to see if I can recreate that moment. I won't. Because no, I want to see that. We are sponsored by Vector Printing for your printing embroidery needs. Go to Vector.co.uk and there's a photo with us. OK. Can I do Christmas jumpers? Christmas is OK. Can I do Christmas jumpers? I'll give you a point. I'm sure they can. I'm speaking over half of them now, but yes, let's say they can. And we're also sponsored by JCIS, the Global Research and Brand Consultancy from South London, owned by a Palace fan as well. Go to JC-IS.com. That's JCIS with us. Come. There you go. Good. I thought I'd try that and that was trying to work. For the year we thought we'd do the Christmas pod with an audience live. The live one, yeah. When we had to cut out half of the pod. Or it was like a shouting. The most farcical pod we've ever done. Yeah. It wasn't great, wasn't it? It wasn't the best idea, was it? No. But, you know, we live and learn. It was better than the one that we had. And we'd cut the bit out with throwing bottles and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, that was a bit weird. Anyway, moving on to the questions from our listeners this week. It's never near the fish special. I mean, we could date. I just don't think we'd get much that we'd be broadcast. We'd never cut a lot of it. Right. The first question this week comes from Peter Hostakny. Oh, hi, Peter. He's a regular for sending questions. And he says... I've never heard that name before. You definitely have. Oh, never. Definitely. He's definitely a regular. I don't remember Hostakny, isn't he? He's a strong name. I can't remember either. Well, we will... But he'll tuck out of the pod later. His question is... Oh, we can listen to that. Listen to that. Hi, Peter. He is a close-time caller. Lovely, well done. He says, "Was Everton's performance the best of any opponents we've played against this season?" Oh, that's a good question. Having not seen the whole game, it seems to... They look very good on the highlights package, definitely, but... They weren't very good. I would say possibly so, actually. I mean, you've got to pay in mind that they did have... Lukaku is brilliant. Let's get that caveat in first. He is one of the best strikers in the Premier League. But even in spite of that, he is in a hot streak for him. And I think that probably contributed to it. They are an incredibly good sign. I mean, you think about who we played so far this season. It's been better. Arsenal were very good against us, but then again, I think they've realised now that they've only got a turn-up and they will be good and we'll be bad against them by good folks. It seems to now be the natural state of things. And they will always score two goals. They can have been in the worst run. Spurs were good against us. I thought of White Outlane. And I haven't had a good season. Spurs fans said that was one of the best performances in the season. They were very good against us, 1-0. They're very good. City wasn't that good. City wasn't that good. Yeah, but in terms of... You know, we should have beaten Chelsea. We've beaten already Liverpool. We've beaten. I think Everton probably are possibly one of the best performances. It's also hats off to their support as well, which is really good in there. I like doing one of those clubs. Let's face it. If we were born Liverpool, then we would support Everton. Yeah. We wouldn't have picked the successful team or the consistently successful team. No, true. And I just think Everton never quite get the praise they deserved. They always try and play it, attacking football. He's built a very good team now. Yeah, clearly. You know, sometimes that would be a far club. I would be defensive now, if both parties are a great player. The FAO is a cockoo. And there are those. Steins, you know, it's a spine of a very good team there. Yeah. Yeah. They've got good players to come back, like Colton. Even though it's a Barry and McCarthy, before they're very good. Well, Barry found in Barcelona, you should have given away a penalty. But they could play a very good player as well. Which one was that? Which decision? That's true. When you pulled back, Jenna. I didn't see that. I haven't seen that. Obviously. It's absolutely the most blatant penalty you will ever see. Really? He's stretched off like that. He was like stretch Armstrong. It was like 18 yards away. He shows the strength for Jenna as well. Because he's already in the box. But he gets about four yards before he. I don't even remember that. The only ones I remember is Kebai possibly getting tripped by stones. Apparently he got the ball. And then much later he got tripped. Well, because Pardu kept on going on about the much one. But the only one they showed, like literally a day and a half later, Skye was still showing the shot. I don't remember that. But I was down the front and it was like, I was throw three in the front row. And you couldn't even see the full goal. But somebody else. He goes to the matches. I mean, that's the other thing. Something like Gayle might have gone down theatrically. The striker has always said, well, you have to go down and let the referee know. But if the referee can't see that there. I don't know if the other people go, well, it goes on all the time in the box. But not like that. I mean, let's be honest about this. It wasn't an unfair result by any stretch of imagination. I think, you know, make it an unfair result. But Craig Paulson is a terrible referee. He's borderline incompetent. It's not the first time we've encountered him after that. I've thought it was for that a lot this year on Paul God. Craig Paulson is particularly bad. Well, I think we should change the name of the pub then. I completely disagree. I think we should change the name of the Craig Paulson. Well, no, we'd have to come. No, it's Craig. We'll have to now call him Craig Clifton or something like that. So it's a be more befitting. Craig Cherry trees. Yes. Yeah, he's still. Craig Rowan clap. It's an interesting question as well, because having accepted that Everton are one of the best things we played this season, that makes it an even better result. Yeah, yeah. Good question. Okay, you're good. Very good question. Craig's on a spare. Send more questions in. He is Peter. I'm sure you're regular. How can you do a drink? I'm slightly mystified by the fact that for the rest of this, you're touching me under the table in our street. You've both been drinking all day, obviously, for the last three months. We met for a pre-pods pint. Oh, okay. It's been peppermint tea for the last three months. Not anymore. Not that I've moved out of London now. This question comes from Robert Smith. Hi, Robert. It's Rob. It's Rob, yeah. It's very nice going. I was going to keep it to move your head back to see the questions on your own. Robert says... Why did you have the drink then? Why was mine mine? You weren't available until eight o'clock. You don't move from a 50 yard radius of your house. I assumed on the basis of a court order. It's been lifted to that one. Here's a look. I've wrote my next comeback for eight o'clock. You said beer, then you two turn late. We were in fun. Oh, yeah. And the tolls hill railway. Oh, Lord. You'd pair of livers. Very nice. Very nice. It's very hip now. Oh, no, he's all around this. Oh, the pubs are around this. Great. You get craft beer for capture. Right. Robert. Is that a little more sunny than you say that? Smith says... Hi, Robert. Hey, Robert. Very nice guy. Says... Will Scott Dan end the season as top gold scorer? He's only one behind. He's got three and our top scorer is a combined bassie. I've got four. Oh, it's not a pass shell. It's interesting because they don't look like training ground moves. They just seem like callers. Excuse me. Again, it's another one seeing it on the highlights that I thought initially would get... It was a foul. It's like, as the one at Liverpool, I thought other referees may have given that a foul. But he wasn't. He was just strong and they swing it in. He's committed. He seems to, like, with... He's so direct with those corners. You get it in. He's almost like, "I'm just going to win this header." So he is. Regardless, no one's going to get in my way. Also, you would presume that, you know, what will happen is hopefully the delay will start scoring because they will double team... Oh, you've found a chance to start a mark. You can't say that on this. They'll double mark him. Jesus Christ, I'm not used to being two drinks behind the kids. It's possible we could. It's interesting because they're not... As I say, they're not. We are a threat from corners. I don't understand that. We've got a lot of goals from set pieces more than other teams. I wish you hadn't asked me that off the top of my head. That's interesting because, like, you look at a lot of the sort of analytics guys and so forth on Twitter and on the net and stuff like that. And they all tend to say that a chance like dance is not a genuine clear cut chance in terms of how they would usually weight such things. Now, they usually look at their sort of expected goals type models because they say, you know, you shouldn't be expecting to get ahead of a well-organized defense and set a piece like that. You should be expecting them to win the header. You shouldn't then be expecting to put it on target and pass the good goalkeeper. But every time we take a corner now, and I know there haven't been that many, and perhaps it's like a whole sort of cognitive bias thing, but every time you kind of expect Dan to come in and meet it, you kind of expect him to actually get it on target when he does. Except only two weeks ago, the Sunderland game. I don't think we hit a dead ball right the whole game, did we? That was an off day. It was a real off day. Well, I think the difference is that under pure this, set a piece was pretty much the only way we were going to score anyway. And we played, we got the ball into the final further as quickly as possible in the hope to get either three kicks or corners. And now we don't do that. But we have that bonus that we do look like we're dangerous from. But I'm intrigued by it because you'd be disappointed if it's the other way around. If we can see there's a corner just from there, they're sent the back, out jumping us in the back, from still quite some way out, and beating the keeper, you'd go, "Well, that's something quite wrong here." I felt the other day, someone said that we've considered the least amount of goals from set pieces, or one of the least. I think the second least we've conceded was pretty strong. We scored the second most. Is that the same kind of courses? You said that it's a million quid and cash buried under Sadesbury's. And the one that says we're 170. No, it's not Sades, which is Morrison's. Oh, sorry, Morrison's. What is closing it? Yeah. It's not Sadesbury's. It's the place next door to it. It was where they made the... Count Bucket. No, no, it used to be the MI5's car park, apparently. Oh, yeah. No, due in the war. Due in the war, next to Sadesbury's is a big. It was the place where they made the dingies for bombers. You actually make this up? No, no, that's true. It was cow polymers. I've never heard this. It was called Sadesbury's, straight in my road. It's now wasteland. It was a factory called Cow Polymers. It was targeted by the Germans. They made all the dingies for... The war effort was in strip. Oh, yeah. They made all the dingies for the bombers. And then it became, by local tradition, MI5's car park. I'd... I'd... I'd... I'd zoom in my phone and not doing that good a job, because if everyone locally knows, it's... If they go... What's that secret place here? I'd say my... Strip. It's in my first car park. I mean, yeah. Yeah. You see a gold Aston Martin drive out there. Anyway, I just got... I just got a hand. But it's the same bloke we did. We were only behind in 119 years. Possibly. Yeah, possibly. I just think that is one of the things when it's morning. It's morning, you. If we haven't got strikers that are getting us 20 goals a season, then the goals have to come for some rules. And he'd come close. I think it was United. We had one... Yeah. He had one pass a post in the last minute. Yeah. He's not just the goal. He'd come close. But also, should we also give a bit of praise to Punchin, who got the assist. The delivery, yeah. And I thought I had a particularly not a great game on Monday night. But apparently he had the most key passes. That's a new chance. Of any play on the pitch. So Punchin still and got the assist. So even when he's not having a great game, still can be someone who can be a match. It's kind of one of those sort of self-fulfilling things right there. People now have decided that they... Well, not even just prophecies, but like basically analyses. Like people have decided that Punchin isn't playing well. We've been sitting on the pod that they're looking more for his mistakes. Yeah. So when he then actually does stuff right. He actually uses the ball very well, doesn't he? Yeah. I didn't, you know, I didn't, I didn't get a phenomenal game on Monday night. But there were people because they're now looking for him. Because the whole sort of conventional wisdom thing has become that he's out form. They're kind of looking for the fact that he's not going to play well. But then pick up on the bat. I think the big question about Scott Dan is whether he'll get an English squad by the end of this year. If he continues the way he's playing, he has to get in. I can't believe that there isn't more of a... I mean, Dan and Stone's together. How old is Scott Dan? It's still only... Twenty-nine? Twenty-eight. I don't know. No idea. But Andy is googling it. But he's the perfect mix of sort of old-fashioned centre-back and modern football in centre-back. He's got both. He can do both. Like John Stones can do. He can play, but he's physical and good. Yeah. And, you know, the future of international football. That's what Stone's was really good on Monday. Stone's... I mean, Stone's is a quality player. Yeah. He's ever to look at what I mean by that. Twenty-eight, which really helps us speak. So it's like, I tend to always assume that less players are eighteen. Yeah. That they're older than me? I don't know why they did that. We've gone past that. Do you remember that? When Pewley's brought him in, no one was that excited when Pewley's brought him in from Blackfield. We got him so cheap. I know, but still. We weren't going, oh, great. We weren't talking about Tommy. Yeah, I mean. But Jam deserves to be an England squad. I mean, there's lots to talk about. Apparently, Hodgson's willing to give us a higher second chance, but... Scott Dandy's a first chance. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Okay. Good question. Speaking of defenders, the next question comes from Peter Redmond. Hi, Peter. And he says, "Mr Sutherland," which I think is a reference to Rob, who has hosted the pod a few times, in an article... Is he? He's basically the posh guy. The more articulate posh one. The really posh guy. The really posh guy. The posh guy. Yeah, yeah. We've got the posh Eden Bridge one. Then we've got the posh Scottish one. I know that, I'm not that posh. I'm a chess man. You weren't there. You weren't posh. You're posh. I'm not posh. No, you're not posh. You're definitely posh. Right. That's the beer talking. Right. So, Rob Wright and article four. Right. Right. No, you're right. Send us posh. He's clever, isn't he? Right. Rob Wright and article four for online, where he said that Damien Delaney was one of our best defenders ever. So, Peter's asked us, what is your all time top back for? I, I, I'm not sure David Delaney is one of our best, it's one of our best stories ever. Yeah, it's a great story. It's a great story. It's a great story. But anyway, you're back. Well, I suppose if you were to be scientific about it, our, our back for now, if you put them in any Palace team 10, 20 years ago, would be from out, don't be brilliant. But I, but the whole team would. Well, that's a really, that's a really good question. Well, I'll, I'll talk for a older generation then. Okay. Back for Kenny Sampson. Yep. Left to be left back. Yep. Jim Cannon. That's Eric Eric, probably Eric. But again, maybe that's more for sort of cult status than. Over Andy Thorne. Yeah. Oh yeah. I think as a defender, I think Eric Young, the Billy Gilbert, the lovely Billy Gilbert as well. And, oh, Patty Mulligan, possibly Paul Hinterwood. Yep. He makes out that he's only just found out this question. No, no. I was 6'3" hours ago. No, that's fine. I would have, I would have found out. It's a, it's acting book. That's a secret. You, you, you, you're pretending of it. Just off the top of my head. That's really good. Cause I remember Mulligan made his debut when he came from, on a Tuesday night. Mulligan, Mulligan also scored two goals against me and I did. But again, David Page, that's a really, that's a really good question. Can I offer you mine, mine, my, my back four? Cause I'm set on my back four. Okay. But again, like you, I think a back four, best ever back four, best for teams. You'd be on who you've seen play. Oh no, that's, absolutely. So mine would be right back, Mark Edworthy, who didn't play for us in a couple of years. Best back four, Jamie. Best back four, Jamie. He won player of the year, he won player of the year in 1998. Andy Linnikum once won player of the year. Andy Linnikum was good. Andy Linnikum was good. He was alright, actually. No, he's not like that. He was not gonna make you draw it, but you know. Yeah. Mark Edworthy right back. Very good attacking right back and had a great night, his hair. Jamie. John Hoeff, he was better than me. Yeah. Jamie Delaney, I'm gonna put Deimo in there. He's, he's been fantastic for us coming up from the championship and in Premier League and the story is great. My other sense back is gonna be Chris Coleman. Oh, yeah. Very, very good for us. Very good for us. We've got Gareth as well. And left back for me is Ashley Cole, who I know didn't play that much for us, but we haven't, since I've been watching Palace, we haven't actually had that many. Oh, I guess Dean Gordon. No, he's fucking on now really. But I don't see how you can have Delaney in there and not Dan. Because Dan is a... Dan's a better, Dan's a technically a better defender. But... Until he comes on the podcast, he's dead to me. And Deimo just says something about the way he plays, the fact that he's constantly proving himself to all of us, proving us wrong. And the story, like you said earlier, for me Deimo makes the end, but I'm not romantic. You know, that's how I watch football. Oh, he has had the drink, can he? Oh, yeah. That's where he is. So that was... I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go with Ashley Cole. Ashley Cole, to be fair, Ashley Cole was pretty, what he did stand out at the time. And scored the goal that pretty much cast out. Ashley Cole did stand out at the time. Mark Edelberg, I just can't go. I mean, that's just... He was fantastic. Brilliant, brilliant work, man. Not a brilliant, yeah. It wasn't brilliant. In my lifetime, he's definitely one of the best, right? They must have had some really strong, really little in Bloody Eden Ridge. I'll tell you that, because Mark Edelberg... Go on then, Andy. Well, I'm a little bit stuck now, because basically you two have taken the two good left backs from the last 40-year period of Palace. Dean Gordon is still up for grabs. And Deimo is a great... He's still still... Great left back. I feel like I'm stuck with Dean Gordon on nothing. So I'm going to go with Dean Gordon, particularly given that he seems like a nice chap. That's obviously... Oh, well, so he's gone for here. He's gone for character. I didn't know this was an option. Yeah, here is. Way more important than character. I'm going to go with Dean Moxie, am I? Right. Dean Gordon. Who's not Dean Moxie? Oh, I know that again. We've come so far from those podcasts. Can we just go back to that? Can we just go back to that? Parsons, and... Oh, I'm just scared to know if you're one. What part? Do you want any part? Do you want any part? No, we've come so far from those podcasts. We know we're great. Correct you. Right, my centre-back partnership is... Whoa. And bear in mind that they probably end up circumventing the rest of their team just by passing between two of them. Craig Moore, and Scott Dan. I was going to go Craig Moore in. I was going to go Craig Moore in, but Craig Moore is brilliant. Craig Moore is a really good child. Brilliant. Yeah. That is a good child, but you've got two football in centre-back. But Scott Dan is like the new Craig Moore. Because Craig Moore, we liked him because he was a ball-playing centre-back. Craig Moore, you'd see far, far further up than Craig Moore was. That's a really good child, Craig Moore. And who's your right-back? My right-back is going to be... I mean, realistically, over the period we've got, you've got Jamie Smith, who was terrible. Butfield, who scored a hat, Craig Moore. Yeah. That's your right-back. One in a playoff final for Palace. Joel Ward, who I think is rated by Palace fans, but I do still love Martin Kelly. I mean... I'm going to have to go with... John Humphrey. He's not in a era. He's not in an era. He's not in an era. He's not in an era. But now I think it's all... If you played Richard Shaw, he's the best man marker I've ever seen in Palace. Yeah. Gareth Southgate, you've got to put... Oh, Southgate made more frustrating. I've made field-filled, maybe. It's a great question. Valier and Ishmael. You can't... You're not having Ishmael. We're holding that one out. Ishmael only became good afterwards. Oh, I love Mullins. Mullins was great. Mullins was better in a back three. Licky Joy. Then right. Right, okay. Who was your right-back? Did you go with Mulligan? Oh, Paddy Mulligan. Yeah, but I've got... Who've you got? So I've got Edward, the... Hey. Daymo Coleman Cole. That's mine. All right, okay. Coleman's a good show, I think. Addie Ford. I'm going to play a back three of Ninja. Ninja's going to provide the steal for me. Yeah. And more either side. Yeah. It's going to be a mixture of steal and absolute class. And who's your full-backs? Don't eat full-backs. That's it. I have wing-backs. They're fair enough. We don't need to worry. Okay. Shall we move on to another question? Yes. Very good question. Fantastic question. That's the best question we've had this. And we could do... Like in the summer, we could do a spin-off on that. Yeah, that's brilliant. Next question is from Tommy Green. Hi, Tommy. And he says, "Would you agree that MacArthur has been more important and influential to the team than could buy so far this season?" I mean, the thing I do like about MacArthur is that he looks like he should be wearing Capitraxic bottoms at all times. Yeah. There's something about him. But equally, he's fantastic, isn't it? He's fantastic. I love him. I love him to bits. Just the most mobile midfielder I think you'll see in a long while. And as an all-round, he's like seven or eight out of ten in everything he does. Yeah. Yeah. And we did call it complain about the money we spent on him when we bought him. But I think it's been money was spent. We? Yeah, none of us remember. None of us thought he was glamorous for that sort of money. But I think that's a good question. And I don't know how much goodbye is influential in making MacArthur a good player. I don't necessarily think if he took one away that the other would be as good. So I think the answer is you want both of them. They're strength is there. You want combination. Basically, they've always got to be there. We know the first two midfield names on the team sheet basically. I think we've all been, and again, it's been a subject we've talked about. We didn't think goodbye would be playing as the more defensive one. But MacArthur has been, for me, even more of a revelation this year than before. Me too. Me too. Just creatively. I think as our player it seems. We moaned when he first came about how defensive he was and how very few times he had a shot. He had a shot at his first game from 25 yards, and we all thought this was going to be good. And he never did it again. But then look at Newcastle. He's been adding confidence. Oh, no, he's been improving every week. His fitness levels and his energy are just through the roof. Again, that might be influenced by Keba. You don't know. I think he probably just paged you. It might be the difference. But MacArthur has been, he's one of many players that have been fantastic. But he's also one of the team really that we're all raving about. But no one outside is. Everyone talking about Balassie and Keba. He said that there was one. We see him every week. He was well-class on Monday night. Who said that? One of the newspaper reports we said earlier. I think people are noticing him now. He's not a player like Pargy was when you all day shunt was. He's just, you know, it's just a hard carry. He's just got everything in his game now. And to have two players like that, because Keba, there's going to be games when Keba just decides he's bored of defending and goes forward and does stuff. And it's interesting, just mentioning those names you talked about from the past. It's not that long ago when we argued about Pargy and Mopsie and then. Exactly. David Wright in midfield. Yeah. And then we talked about Keba and MacArthur. Yeah. Two of the, I think two of the best authorities in the primary league. But I mean, there's a point there with Keba I think. You know, he came in and I think a lot of people, rightly or wrongly, you know, I'm not going to make any judgement on that. I thought that he would be this sort of creative force that was going to come in and score goals, do everything. But because of that, even though he's done a fantastic job week and week out, he demonstrates phenomenal ability on the ball every week, but in a deep position. I think that whole sort of, again, cognitive bias thing that I was talking about, where people kind of, because they're expecting him to be doing a certain thing that he's not doing, even though what he is doing is fantastic. Yeah. They are kind of going, well, yeah, but he's not, you know, we're looking at what he is. He's going to be born for 15 million quid. Why is he not leading on Messi? Yeah. Like the expected to pick up the ball, beep, run through 17 people, blast in the top corner, then run off. I feel like you had Hennessy then, really? Well, yeah, pretty much. Well, like, Hennessy is, I think he is actually having an influence over the rest of the team. I can put a massive thing. I can put a massive thing. I think from what you gather from inside. The interesting about MacArthur, though, is that Stracken still doesn't raise the score. It's only recently. Yeah. He started playing. Yeah. Which is very interesting. But yeah, MacArthur's a much, I didn't, I thought MacArthur was going to be, you know, decent quality. Half decent Premier League player that would be one of, you know, three or four that would be in and out for different games. And it's interesting as well that he's doing a lot more of the media work as well. I don't know if that indicates that he's happier in his own school. Yeah, he's doing more interviews. And he's very good on Twitter. He's, you know, he does very sort of funny, he seems like a very sort of personable, confident guy. He's doing like parody songs and stuff. Not doing parody songs yet. But again, I think his step up would be nice. But then you come back to that, you know, who's going to be the number 10 conversation. It makes the back four is not changing. The keeper's not changing. Those midfield two are not changing. He's picking Wicom, I'd say, and the last year of your week. So that's going to be the interesting thing where, how he works out with the other. Yeah. Well, I wanted to be showing it personally. The people I mentioned then. All of them. Right. Right. Final question then for this week comes from Pete Constantin, Constantin to, Constantinu. Jesus Christ. Pete. Pete, can you wait till it's over? Constantinu. Constantinu. Constantinu, yeah. Anyway, here's question. Pete, I apologise. Yeah. It's not, it's Campbell. J.D. is the bottom move. He's done a trap of the bottom move. And he was so obvious. I've just lost a 20 pound bit in my head. Right. He's done a bit more so, a 20 degree. That I would say that, yeah. I don't even know what the reference is from, but I heard someone say it once. So, I am referencing it. His question says, is, is, I'm going to have to put you two to bed soon, not really. Yeah. Pete's question. Is Gary Neville's appointment as Valencia manager pivotal to Pardu's future? Success for Neville would make him favour for England and would downgrade Pardu as England manager. Well, that's a bloody question, but equally. If you look on the converse, it gives Neville a very early opportunity to mess up. Yep. Thereby sort of ruled himself out. If he's a complete disaster there, then you kind of think that they may have sort of plunged them in. Yeah, he can cleanse them in style without any form of background and giving them the job otherwise because they're the FA. And that's kind of what they sometimes do with some coaching appointments. But if he does mess up there, and there's an English Premier League manager who has hired capital in terms of how the press is in style. Yeah, so it would save a level of poverty that would be done. I still think so. I think it's really interesting. One Neville's taken his job. It's quite clear the FA are, I was going to use the word "greaming" then, but that's the point. It's quite clear that Gary Neville, the FA won Gary Neville to be the manager down the line somewhere. Having said that, they wanted Gary Southgate a couple of years back to be the England manager down the line somewhere. Can't have it all gone. Oh, he's losing tonight, isn't he Gary Neville? Oh, okay, too, Neil. But erm... The South weren't well on the podium today in time. He's seamlessly made. The England fan, part of me thinks that if he got an England manager and he's got experience of managing a broad, that's fantastic. Yeah. So, I don't think part of you's... I think it's obvious that part of you is behaving himself on the touchline. He's actually with a great deal of restraint. Definitely. Because I think he feels that he's got a timeless reputation in terms of his behavior on the touchline. He needs to address that. I think he wants to feel that now is a good chance for him to actually really put himself forward for England as well. He does want it. I just think the way the FA works is that we've got an English manager at the moment. It's almost like Villain. It was just flip-fought. It's almost bound to be a continental manager next time. Yeah. I just wonder how the rest of the country would view Parkview as England manager? Not favorably. It's like, you know, you look at the top, you know, Aladise is always moaning about England managers don't get the top for it. If Parkview was to get the Liverpool Man United job, they wouldn't be excited. I just can't... He wouldn't get it out of there. I don't think he wouldn't... In a way, what I want is for this to be his kind of last job and that he stays with us and builds... ...doesn't get bored with us, you know, because he's record for various reasons. He seems to sort of run out of steam, become unpopular after two or three years. So I think for his own... It's clear that he... I think it might be that we're getting the best out of him because he feels this is his last chance to impress and become England manager. And from what we've seen so far, I mean, you'd love to see what he could do with a squad of really, really good players. I do think this is... I think this is the perfect job for him and the perfect manager for us. And I think he will hit a glass ceiling with us and we might with him. And they're both pushing each other to... Look, we've got a massive... I think England have appointed Roy Hodgson and Steve McLaren in the last 10-year period. You know, these are managers. They will be damaged from McLaren. No, no. Neither of those guys had the pedigree in the Premier League. That's Hodgson did abroad. That's why I kind of said in the Premier League. But you got a very good reputation abroad. When I've had neither of them had had at any point before, and still don't have, the sort of track record the party does in the Premier League. They went into that job and they reported... I don't see why in the absence of the England set up taking the leap with either South Get or Neville, that they wouldn't go for party apart from some of the defamatory stuff that Kevin sometimes is. I think he's not popular with even the game. I think he's got a reputation for volatility, shall we say. But I think the players love him and I think he's got... I would love him to be England manager because I think he's got a mix of the old-fashioned sort of English motivational skills, plus proper tactical ability, and he changes. When you think England would probably finish fourth or fifth in the Premier League? Yeah, they probably would. If you judge it, if you sort of approach him as a good Premier League... Alongside Palace. No, I think four times. You've got to be. He's not Kevin Kagan. He was the last guy I tried to ask. You can manage Andor apart-time possibly, but you can't. The press simply wouldn't allow you to do it, but I certainly think Pardu wants the England job, and I think we're benefiting from that. Oh, massively. But I would hope that's three or four years down the line, because as we have seen with Swansea, and again, we keep saying that's not forget. All it takes is for Roy Hodgson to decide he's had enough Pardu to get the England job, and then... Actually, I think that's probably unfair, because I think we've reached the stages of club where we would manage that transition better than we have done in the past. We probably would. We're trying to help him. Or Keith would step in and just sort us out. Do you know what? I don't think that will happen next time. I think we've moved, I think, we're a different club now, for better or worse. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. But anyway, we're getting ahead of ourselves. For better or worse. Yeah, you were imagining the scenarios that probably won't happen. Yeah, exactly. Let's wrap up Pardu there. Brilliant questions, just with listeners. Very, very good indeed. Let's move on to part three, where we go back in time. On this day. So, we will see you in a bit. [Music] To the Folkland Podcast. Pard 159 sponsored by Vector Printing for all your print and embroidery needs, whatever they may be. Go to Vector.co.uk and that's Vector with us. Okay. Well, print is where you arrange a large number of letters on a press. We haven't got time. Or, you could also go to JCIS. We're looking forward to this. It's forever. We're also sponsored, of course, by JCIS, the Global Research and Brand Consultancy from South London. Visit JC-IS.com. Good. So, we're into part three of our new feature, which is on this day, which this week I'm going to extend to in this week. There was a few more options. They just expanded to in this year. In this week. In this millennia. Yeah, that's why you're not hosting the podcast. So, in this week. In this week. In this week. Join us. We go fast. We go fast. He's got his spirit in. Right. I hate you guys. Join us as we go back in time. That's going to kick the snap back, isn't it? Er, right. We're going to first of all go to the cap. Please stop driving. We are going to go back. First of all, on our journey back in time. In this week too. 1989. Oh, okay. So, 9th of December 1989. Palace. Played Manchester United at Old Trafford. No, no, the score was that day. Was that when Palace lost one before the down and embrace win? Potentially because the score was 2-1. Right. The first of all Palace. I think it was. Right score the most? I think it was. Fantastic. Well done. It also marked Andy Thorne's debut for Palace. Yeah. Good. I don't know if we want a blue kit as I remember. We haven't had a, we haven't had a blue away. I think possibly. I think that was our last winter Old Trafford before. I don't remember. It was in 2011. 2011. 2011. So, almost two decades then. Since. So, so, so, so almost certainly our last league win. Yeah. Yeah. So, there you go. We also this week go back in time. I love how pleased he looks with himself. I don't know. He's pleased about a brace from Brite is what he's pleased about. Well, Mark. He had to take a run up to it as well which you didn't see at home. Mark Brite, Mark Brite underrated striker. It doesn't get, we used it before. It doesn't get the, doesn't get the, don't look at it. It doesn't get the prey he deserves from being basically up front of the last idea. At least the Wolf on podcast, please. No, Mark Brite was, if he hadn't, he, he didn't have any pace that was his problem. But he was a, I think he was, he was up there with Teddy Sharon. Did he ever play for England? Yes. Yes, but in a, in a B game. Did he get a full cap? It was a sort of strange, I don't, I don't think it was somewhere finding up. He was a very good, he was a very good structure. You know what's nice about the current regime is he's back obviously doing a consultancy role. Doing a lot of stuff. You're working with the academy players. The academy players. Celarco's back as well, coaching as well. Andy Woodburn's back. Yes, yes. Terrence Ward, who we mentioned earlier, said that an interesting point. Since John Celarco has come back this year, we've seen real progress from Wolf and Yannick. Do you think that's, coincidence or it's a really interesting point, isn't it? I, I don't think it's coincidence. No, I think John Celarco is a very good coach for working ever. But also I think Steve Parrish deliberately wanted people from a similar background to Zahar in particular, who could understand some of the specific issues that Zahar might be struggling with. And I think Celarco is a player that is clearly respected by younger players at Palace. And I think Steve Parrish and I was in a rather quiet way. I've been only too pleased to welcome X Palace players. But I think they think it's important to bring people in and understand there isn't really a Palace ethos to buy into as such in terms of the way we play football. But I think there is a community ethos that I think Steve Parrish wants as many of our staff as possible to reflect the social backgrounds that our club is in. And I think, you know, a lot of our, you know, you've got a lot of young black lats in the academy. You need people around them that have come from a similar background and made a success. And overcome a lot of, you know, a lot of difficulties to get where they were. So I think- It was interesting that a lot of those players are coming from that 1990-19-19 team that were so successful at it. I think there's a real, I think that's a team that represents the club more than anything else. I think there's clearly a bond between those, between those players. Because that was a team of players, let's face it, none of them were outstanding. They all, they all over achieved. I mean, that was a team that was just much more than some of its parts. And I think at the time it was just, it represented South London and it was an unexpected success. Doesn't it feel like this current team is similar in that kind of way? A proper unit. It feels different. It feels different because they're not from the same cohesive background. No, but in terms of that, more than some of its parts, proper team working together. It feels more, it feels less accidental now. It feels more professional, it feels more of a progression. Even at the time, you kind of run nodes and it's obsession with money and wages. You kind of, you always knew that that was maybe 89-19. It was going to be a one-off finishing third in the division one. You kind of thought it was a massive achievement, but it wasn't one that you ever felt was going to be emulated and you kind of knew that our players would go and we wouldn't bring players in. So that felt, it was possibly more exciting at the time because it felt more special, more... It feels like now we're getting back to that kind of, that excitement, doesn't it? Yes, but it's different because it feels like this is planned and this is... It does feel like everyone talks about that team. It felt like it existed in a vacuum, because we'd had the 79-80 team, which was brilliant, but that was a product of a sort of planned youth system because of finances that kind of disappeared. You forget, the 80s was a bleak time for Palace. So that, and it took Steve couple four or five seasons to melt that bunch. Upright couldn't get another club because he should have failed a medical, basically. Right, he was picked up from a long lead team. There was a team of misfits, so it didn't feel like it was a team that had been planned, but Steve couple got these people together and they overachieved. It always felt like it was going to stop. It felt like an accident. It didn't feel like it was as it now. It just feels like a work in progress, but brilliantly towards... So it is exciting, but it's not... And what we hoped it would be as well. Yeah, and also they were, as I say, because that team was from... A lot of them were from around here, and it was... They were working. It was a proper... I'll get quite a cross sometimes, because people make so much fuss about Wimbledon. Yeah, we were like that, but better, we were just a better football team. We weren't a brilliant football team, and some of the football was great, but we were just as... You know, just as representative of our local areas, Wimbledon ever were. It's just, I feel that they were kind of over... Yeah, we did, we did. And took part in probably one of the best 45 minutes of football ever in the park. Yeah, definitely. But we were an un-loved team, because run-nodes wasn't popular in... And also you have to remember how unfashionable football was at the time as well. Football was going through crowds were low, violence was high. It had cages and fences, and now it feels totally different. We got different people in charge. Yeah. That question was me. Me neither, but that was good. I thought long enough it'd be like... Well, that was coffee for you two, so we might be able to get back in the game. That was 90 December 1989. It does like it, it kind of does like it. No, it does, but that too, but it does feel like that team... There is a bomb between that two. And now they're in for... In the next generation. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, exactly. Okay, we're also gonna go back to 1962, 10th of December 1962. I think I was here, whatever it was. This is interesting. Two weeks into the job, and the palace at the bottom of the table. New manager, Dick Graham. Be it yourself, Street. Fade seven. You know what? So you're thinking about an 1962? I knew it. Nobody would have even smirked. Dick Graham. It's only said Dick Graham out there. He faced a mini rebellion. I think it's the funniest thing we've ever had in life. Wow, it is 2015. And he's a system manager, Leslie Pussy. Nobody saw the word out, wasn't he? Right, I'm gonna crack on. I'm gonna push on. Faced a mini rebellion when a petition signed by 13 senior players, protesting his methods was handed to the board. The complaint was immediately rejected by the Sowas Park bosses, and they backed the palace former... From a palace goalkeeper to turn things around. Different world back then. Oh, petition gate. Yeah, petition gate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Imagine if there was two recognitions now. Yeah. Um, Thursday, the 11th of December 1980. I was going through the whole lot, yeah. I was going through the whole lot, yeah. I'm doing a few more, like, this is in this week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, worse, Jack and Orie episode, yeah, but... I mean, if anyone out there is doing pointless, then the question comes up which current Premier League team had a petition-based revolt in 1962. What was the 62 season line? Involving Dick Graham. Dick Graham. I was used to go. I might come. Somebody called Dick and... Right. Okay. We're going to go in 1980 for the next one. It's worse not to, whoever. I feel like this feature is dying already. Not a feature, it's great. It's just the most representative. Uh, 1980. Thursday the 11th. Luckily, no one's listening. I know, and there's two trains all over central London. They're far-forwarding to the end. What? What's the word? Dick Graham. I can't. Yeah, what? There will be some listeners who will remember Dick Graham. And the 1962 team and petition. Uh, we're going to go to 1980 for the next one. Palace, the Palace accounts revealed. By the way, I am reading these from the very good Professor Palace on this day book by Neil McLean, which is fantastic. Um, published in 2008. Needs to be updated. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of stuff. There's a bit of filler. Quite a lot of stuff. Uh, anyway. Are you afraid of the part of the war? Well, both, yeah. Yeah. Uh, well, I'm going to, uh, pursue a team named petition. There's something else must have happened that day, surely. Apparently not. Uh, that was literally the only thing that happened on the table. I'm going to do that every day in world history, yeah, yeah. In Palace's history. So, um, probably the only time that a Palace Mander has faced a petition, I would assume, or guess. Well, I'm set down and parred you in the grouch. Oh, no, no more. Moving on to the 1980. Well, that's not fun. Uh, this, this is, this is more your, more, your, your era, Kevin. You're looking to take all this out when you're so rough in the morning, right? Nope. And Thursday, the 11th of December, 1980. Uh, Palace, the couch revealed they made more than one million pounds from the Sainsbury store deal at Selhurst Park. Oh, that's, that's interesting. That's interesting. Sainsbury's still there today. Where did that money go? Oh. He was... Apparently that deal was, like, in 10 years, but that deal was like decades in the making before it actually went through. And was it also like a 99 year deal lease or something? Yes, because they have to be part of the new stadium. Whatever happens with that. And it's, well, they're, they're seeing the, it's going to be a bigger Sainsbury's in the corner, but it's some bizarre oversights by local, because we own the roof of the Sainsbury's, but not the walls. It's all very odd, but it has to be a Sainsbury's. There has to be a Sainsbury's. There will be a Sainsbury's as part of the new stadium. Right. Okay. So that's, that's a, that's a given. Good. It'll be a Sainsbury's. And we also, I think we said this before. We own the cab office. And the bargain bucket. And the bargain bucket. Yeah. And the bargain bucket next to it, but not the... It's really... Really? Well, they have to stay. How we ended up owning the roof of the... It was something to do with the people who owned the house, but that sounds... Well, they're a bit worried that we're going to iron the floor of crystals and... Yeah. The Sainsbury's floor would be there. It's a really sticky floor as well. It's a very sticky floor. Really sticky floor. The last few times it's actually David, David, they've improved it. No, it's quite sticky. It's pretty sticky. I can pinpoint two reasons. Two of the areas where it's really... Can you tell them on the pod? No. No. Not the one underneath the bonkette in the fog. Right. We're going to wrap up in this week feature there for this week. Good. In part four, we look forward to two policies. Again, we get Southampton and Stelhurst. Park. In part four. Yeah. It's going to be a quick one. So, join us in a bit. Hello. Welcome back to the five-year plan postcard. See if it's hard 159 sponsored by Vector Printing for your printed embroidery needs. Go to vector.co.uk and that's Vector Wither. Okay. Okay. And we're also sponsored by JCIS, the Global Research and Brand consultancy from South London. Visit JC-IS.com and that's JCIS Wither. Yeah. Yeah. Are they in by a Palace fan? I owned by a Palace fan. There we go. That's why we've got them as part of the FIP family. Do you feel like we might need them to consult us on our brand after the podcast? Possibly. Maybe for the brand of part three. Yeah. But part four is all about the next game, which is a home to Southampton. Of course, last season, that was the warm-ups last game. The game changed everything. Yeah. But are we more confident this season? No. Oh. Southampton played a sort of football that are traditionally a challenge to us, but there a game we said that about Swansea. I don't know. I'm surprised by us being above. You know, people still talk about what a great story Southampton is, despite all their money and their facilities. I think it's a... It's a good test, but it's one I'm not that fast about because if we don't beat them, we'll beat somebody else. Yeah. But doesn't that seem to have to come as well? That we're now like, we're not that bothered about these games. Like there'll be games that will challenge. No, I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I've had four seasons. They're out. Yeah. I think their approach will be different after the Newcastle game for us and they struggled against Villa from what I can gather in terms of breaking the Villa's defence down. Again, it depends on how we approach the game and... Depends on how they approach it. They come and sit deep. I have my struggle. I think a point, they will consider a point, a decent result. It's a really... They are just one of those teams on there. It's just like if you were talking about, born with a villager, yeah, I think we'll win. Yeah. Perhaps we need to have more faith in this new Palace that we talked about so much in part one and part two. Which seems a world away. But also, they are, like you said before, they are one of the teams that we've emulated, tried to emulate as we've sworn to the team. I know. We've tried to emulate. I mean, it's one of the things that you've come to... We've looked up to and thought we can do similar. Yeah. But we're now above them. We're above them. We're about to want to say. Yeah. Like, it almost feels like we're kind of ahead of schedule. Yeah. It's another club that part of you used to manage. Yep. And perhaps you used the insight because that was, again, a couple of Newcastle fans say when they used the insight knowledge of the Newcastle to beat them. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah. And the odd thing is, I was looking at the results from last year. We hadn't actually been that bad leading up to Southampton game last year. Because we'd beaten Liverpool and I think we drew Tottenham. Yeah. And drew Stoke as well. No, we drew it home to Stoke. Yeah. We drew away Tottenham. So the Southampton result slightly came out, not the result, the performance. Slightly came out of the blue. But it's all these stories that he decided we were going to play a diamond that day. And we'd lost 100 Villar and 100 Sunderland. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't think Southampton are quite as good a team as they were this time last season. And I think we're a much better team than we were. But it would be nice to start getting a sort of consistent, sell us record. That would be, that's... Yeah. We need to start consistently being something. And there are some games coming up where we could hopefully get better home records. Yeah. And also Southampton do try and play football. They're not renowned for the physicality, so I think... I don't think they'll come and play as deep as Sunderland did. I think they'll be more like a Newcastle game. I think in the way they're going to play. Hopefully. Yeah. Look. What team would you guys put out for Palace? Same as Monday night or... Depends on the hards. What do we know that as well? It was ours. It was back. She mentioned. She might have played against Southampton in the end of a card. Yeah, it's right in the card. Down there at number 10 and was fantastic. So was the Noga. So was the Noga. Well, so is the Noga. Yeah. So bring back Yaya. I can't think that's terrible. I can't see him starting Shumak. No, I mean, yeah. To be honest, I think the ideal scenario is that we are, you know, tuning up against ones the 128th and Shumak comes on. But I think a lot depends on how fit it's as high as they tend to push their forebacks on a little bit. So I think Wickham would start. I mean, Wickham's a given start. It's to start off in MacArthur and goodbye. Yeah. So pretty much same team, but probably it was a hiring visit. Saints aren't quite as far minus as they were last season. No. They're sort of rummines of discontent down there, both from Cooman and from people within the camp. Like they, I think they're now starting to necessarily kick off against the constraints that being imposed upon them in terms of finances. But they're certainly aware that there's been a lot of ceiling put above them in terms of, you know, ability to develop and stuff. It's, it's, it's not the same Southampton that we faced 12 months ago at Lewis Park. But then what, in the same, we're not the same palace. Yeah. But I think, I find that quite, I think what they've got is that like Newcastle, they're probably a moral collection of individuals in the team, but much better individuals than, than Newcastle. Yep. I mean, I'm basing that on, just a bit on highlights I've seen. I think that's fair. And I'm trying to say I'm profound and deep. But I, I think these, these are the sort of teams that we, if we want to be taken seriously, these are the sort of teams we should be looking to, to win against. And what you hope is that they would come and try and play football against us. That would work for us. Yeah. There is, and they aren't in the swing. I'll just don't, sorry about them. I don't like. Southampton. Yeah. Yeah. 96. I think it might be that. Yeah. They're making me cry. Maybe. Bit of a smugness about them, I guess, in terms of the way they... Well, also I remember because that was a game after we lost 9-0. Southampton, I remember going down there and they all thought they were hilarious with them. It's nearly ten past suckling jokes and so on and so forth. It was a whole 9-0 thing. We got, we got the last laugh on that. So the 9-0 thing isn't even a thing. Because we got that. Well, it's not over yet. So we weren't, it was years to go before we did the last laugh we couldn't do. Well, right now in terms of what we thought we'd do. It's not, it's not. I mean, nobody was surprised when they, because they were, this time last year they were kind of the lesser one of the, the Premier League, playing really good football, tipped us outside as the Champions League. And I wasn't at the game, but they, they all can't say, just played us off the pitch to me. Well, it's got down to score, didn't it? And if I got draw, Southampton. Again, they're boring in it. So... They've had to keep telling Jon Hartson to shake the balls up because it's quite clearly they're all the Premier League teams who clumped together. It's just how many, when was the last, just, just a home game? It's a long lead team, it's all I asked, just for once. We got a good one last year, not prior though, didn't we? That was a fourth round. No, Dover is third round. Oh no, it wasn't. We got a really good one. And then we got £100. That was a way to get a good one. It was a way to do it, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. Perfect, that's perfect. No, I want a home team. No, you want a home team? No, you want a home team? A way to lower lead team, a home to big team. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Do you know what the worst thing about this is all the techs I've got in the morning, so I'm sorry I was out of order last night and I did disagree with it. No, I don't know. I might have contradicted you, I'm really sorry about that. It's funny for us. Now I'm back in Chesham. Right. Right. It's all south London. We are going to remember the point. I'm back looking at the Fluffy Bar Lems in Chesham. People reading the monocle magazine on the platform. It's definitely the worst pub in Chesham in the Fluffy Bar Lems. Are you guys done? No. It is defined. Right. That is the end of this week's podcast. So, thanks for listening. We will see you after the Southampton game. Kevin and Andy, thanks for being here. Well, you're the welcome. He lives it. Oh, good. Right. Thanks for listening listeners and we will see you again very soon. Goodbye. Bye. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. [Music] (crowd cheering) [BLANK_AUDIO]
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