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Select quote. We shop. You save. Full details on example policies at selectquote.com/commercials. [Music] Hello listeners. Welcome to the five-year plan podcast. Hey! Hey! Hey! Good. That's Kevin Day. They're making up for the lack of James Indigo and Andy Street. I'll do an oven already. Hurry! Hurry! Good. Hurry! I got him off. He clearly did it. How are you? All right, thank you. Yes? Well, let me do this. Let me just respond. Let me just respond. Let me just respond. Let me just respond. Let me just respond. Let me just respond. Let me just respond. Let me just respond. Yeah. We asked about this. This is pod 155 and we are sponsored by vector printing for your print and embroidery needs. Go to vector.co.uk and that's vector with a... K-K-K-K. Also, of course, JCIS, the global research brand. The global research brand consultancy from South London. Visit JCIS.com. There's no thing for that. So, this way, we're basking in the glory. I mean, we haven't won, but of a very, very, very good performance against United. I'm really pleased that people are seeing it as a positive result. As I think... Yeah. Start the season. When we look to the fixtures, this group of fixtures, we've talked before about... You know, Damien Delaney talked about, you know, dividing into six. This group of fixtures, we wouldn't have thought that going into a mainly-nighted Liverpool, that Leicester and West Ham would be in top four when we played them. Yeah. And we didn't get anything out of them, and possibly deservedly so maybe it was deserved more against West Ham, but Leicester probably was the right result. You think, "I think I left them." Well, we could have sneaked it. Yeah, we could have sneaked it. I know that. And then we got a tonking in the lead cup, which was partly our fault, because we did say on the pod last week, many people pointed out to us that we had said, at least we haven't had a tonking. Yeah. But it's going to get... The leads of the lead cup are not in them. Yeah, and also, I don't think Paju for a minute thought that City would play without a stronger team. But we went into the lead. So we went into going into a mainly-nighted... With a slight... a blip, just a blip. We've probably got more depressed than we should have been last week on the pod, but it's a reflection of our recent high standards. And I'm really pleased that people have realised that that was a really good performance. And a really good point against a team who are after all, man United, and who are after all, man is by Louis Van Halen. There's all this talk about them coming into the back of it off to Neil Neil Drawers. One of those was in the lead cup with a lesser team, and they picked. And one of those was against Man City. Their last away performance, they smashed everything three in it, got to some park, and it could have been more. So we've now beaten Chelsea. We've beaten Man City. We've taken points off Man United. This is a new thing for us. And we deserve to win. And regardless of their tactics, look at the players out on the bench. I mean, they didn't deserve to beat us the last time we played them. They didn't deserve to win beat us. The difference was that Louis Van Hal manned up yesterday and said we were the better team. And I just thought it was a better performance all around. It seems that arses have been kicked. Formations have been tweaked. In the portions beforehand as well, everyone... There was all sorts of terrible rumours. We thought Delaney was out. We thought Swireway was out. We thought Punchham was out. We thought Balassie was out. Well, Pards was a bit sort of cagey amid where you can build the injuries. Balassie's head injury. Punchham was still supposed to be sick. So it looked like it was going to be a real makeshift team. That makeshift team, I think, it was pretty much the team that most of us would say was the first team. Yeah. And that was reflected in the performance. And I thought it was a very good performance and it was a very positive... It was probably a good point. It's a great point. It's slightly annoying. It was down to ninth. It was ninth in the Premier League. And we got a point off out the main United. Look at the amount of money they got on the pitch and the quality of the players they got. And also, as of next week when we play Liverpool, which we'll come to later on in the pod, but our feed played then. We'll have played all the traditional top six. We will. Yeah, oddly, I was looking at Leicester's pitch to this last night. It's obviously it's my imagination. They don't seem to have played anyone. They seem to be going through the whole season. Yeah. Playing West Brom and Stoke and Southampton. They've got no runs. There's no run of games where they've got a team in the top four and five. Followed by another team in the top four or five, which we seem to be constantly playing. The top five teams. And I think we've hindsight. We've acquitted ourselves. And yesterday, it was a really quite dynamic performance. And I thought there was a couple of differences. I thought the midfield players certainly looked to be playing further forward than they had been recently. The starting position seemed to be further forward. And Zaha and Balassie seem to be for a lot of the game, coming in off the wing much more than they have been. Tough on for world, wasn't it, against United? It was. And I think he kind of, his eyes sort of lit up a bit when Ashley Young came on. Yeah. I think. But it was a tough one for me. I don't think he had a brilliant game, but I think he had a better game than he has done. Yeah, definitely. And also, the other midfield players did get into the box a lot more than that. What I really liked was, and we've said this all season, when we'd love to see goodbye a bit further forward. He and Punchin started switching. Do you notice that Punch went deep? Yeah. And as soon as goodbye went further forward, we were getting a little into that flick to Gail. Yeah. He was in and around the box, and I mean, I'm not saying we know what we're talking about, but we did suddenly look a bit more dynamically. You know, it's really interesting because we talked about this in the pub as well, because it seemed to cause, it became a bit of a debating point when we said last week that we hadn't bought Cabay's defensive midfield player. A lot of Palace fans were going, "Yeah, we did, we bought him." But we didn't buy him as a holding midfield player, he's never a holding midfield player, could buy him. I mean, I know he... Quite authentic. He played deep for Newcastle, but he was still in a creative role. He's not a jettico, or a... I bet he has proven it, and he can... He can get stuck in. He can get stuck in, but he's not. Read it well. He's not. Pretty certain that's not why we paid all that money for him. You know, he can do that job, but he's... Do you think maybe he's just good enough to do kind of any job? Oh, yeah, pretty much. I mean, he's a quality player. I mean, he could probably play him up front in an emergency, which is possibly something they might... Yeah. And might think of it as a lesser opposition, but... Yeah, and let's not forget, you go through United's team sheet. There's a lot of talent on that pitch. They're all internationals, they're all good players. Smalling arguably less. I bet he's still in... He's having a good... He's having a good season. He's having a good season. He's having a good season. He's having a good season. He's having a good season. He's having a good season. He's having a good season. He's having a good season. He's having a good season. He's having a good season. He's having a good season. He's having a good season. I mean, that's safe from... I can't believe that was a save until you saw it. That was a positive result. I think you only can, especially given the last couple of performances. It's like they went terrible. You know, West Ham, obviously, the red card changed. Yeah. It was important, I think, maybe just for us to have a good performance. Even if we'd lost yesterday, just to have a good performance. Yeah, yeah. I mean, so I thought you'd just get in the point on the board. It's... It was... As somebody said, it's a grown-up result. Yeah, exactly. It's an adult result. It's... I don't think for a moment, Pardew sends his team out to either win or lose. You'll take a point if you can get it. Yeah. I thought what was different is that West Ham, we settled really early for a point. Yeah. And I thought yesterday, United settled very early for a point. And we didn't. That was the big difference. We went to time with the game. That's where I can see United's... where United fans are probably upset. Because Van Hal talked after the man's city game. We're now at home with that being a good point. He talked yesterday of it being a good point. That pallet is a difficulty. You can understand that United shouldn't be talking like that, really. It's very hard in many nights, isn't it? Really not. Yeah, against Man City. But certainly we haven't got to the stage yet where many nights should be going. We can't get a win at Salah's part. Especially given our record against United's so bad. Well, again, that's why yesterday was so... It's not exciting, I suppose, but why yesterday was so important for me because of how record it is. Just so bad. Two draws out of 14. Yeah. And yes, they normally be as quite comfortably. So to do that was good. And I think the reaction of the fans at the end indicated how much they realised that. And also it's really nice for all that we've praised Hangulare. And I think Hangulare is a brilliant squad member. You forget how... I don't quite know how Delaney pulls it off sometimes. But it's just Dan and Delaney are our best. Sent about preparing. Whatever that chemistry is between them. I think technically, I don't think David and Delaney would mind us saying it. I mean, probably Hangulare is technically a more competent footballer in terms of he's got more... But yeah, he's not. He just works better for us. And he just gives it a bit of unphompassion and enthusiasm as well. Because there's such a calmness about Hangulare and Dan. Sometimes Delaney making the odd mistake and recovering from it. It just gives everyone a little... He doesn't even feel like he's making mistakes tonight. No, it doesn't. He's just so on it, isn't he? He's just so on it. But it's more sort of... With Hangulare, it's like a swan. You don't really see what's going on underneath. You sort of see this serene sort of figure. Yeah. But with Delaney, you see him working out. You see the arms and legs playing. It works. It just works. And obviously, Wardy was back as well yesterday. Yeah, which is a big one. We just look better, don't we? Yeah, we do, really. Yeah. And I think, again, I think Kelly's done absolutely nothing wrong, but I'm really pleased he's there. But Swaray, I think, will be straight back in. So that was pretty much our first team yesterday, which is encouraging. I was also quite pleased that Liverpool beat Chelsea yesterday, because I'm hoping that will make them think they're a really good team. And hopefully they'll come out and have a go at us. Well, we've got a very good record. Speaking of records, we've got a very good run against them recently. Well, do you know what? These kind of things do become important, in a sense. Once you get so used to not being a team, you kind of go out there half beating sometimes. If you try out a ground, if you look at players and you think, "Jesus, we've never beaten this team." It just sets off a little bit of doubt in the back of your head. So I'm hoping that that continues. Well, speaking of Liverpool, Dwight Gail yesterday, back in the start at none of our free suspension, I thought he had a really, really good game. He was fantastic. Doing everything we said he wasn't doing before. Yeah. Yeah, I can only agree. I can only agree. He was mobile. He was disciplined in his... I mean, there's a lot of aggression there. And he moved their centre backs about quite a lot. I mean, it was very interesting. Yeah, he was everything that... Some people say he was playing like that against myself. I couldn't see it from where I was sitting. But I think if he'd played a lot of that, I think he probably would have beaten West Ham if he'd stayed in the kitchen. In the West Ham game, it felt a little bit like his head wasn't quite screwed. Yeah, I think possibly yesterday, it's probably a massive confidence boost from starting the game, because I think he may have thought Bamford probably would. Yeah. Or he might try something else. So clearly Pargis spoke of Jim. And yesterday, he was very good. Oh, he was winning headers against Smalling and Fellaini. He was, yeah. Which was... You know, sorry, we don't give him credit for it really. He did win a couple against early on against West Ham. Because I think, yes, there's well, because you did expect him to go against Blin, but he went against Smalling more often than not. Yeah. Do you think this kind of proves, I mean, doesn't prove anything, but do you think this is a hint that actually maybe Gail could do that role up top for us or in certain games? Depending on who we're playing? How many times have we said it? He's one of the great... It's the Cameron Jerome conversation. I love the Cameron Jerome. I know, but yes, the one thing Dwight Gail stopped doing is storing his scoring goal. I mean, it's that... I know Sir Locks on the south sound like a stuck record, but only people at the age of 50 would understand why. I know a record. Yeah, I sound like an asky. A scratch CD. Yeah, I still think we need to judge strikers and how many goals he's scoring. Yes, he indicates. I don't think he's out of his depth in the Premier League at all. But I still don't think we're ever going to play a system that naturally suits him. I agree, but I didn't like it yesterday. He was starting to fit into it. Yeah, and I think when Wickham's fit, there will be times when we need a goal, when Wickham and Gail up front together will be a good option for a goal down. I think Gail was a really good option. Yeah, yeah. Yes, it was a kind of red... It was a redeeming performance from him after that. It was a confidence building for him and for the fans. I think a little bit. Yeah, and I think coming off the back of that five one as well, that was an important result for him. I know you were there. It was pretty bad. I know second half, every once and a second. It was pretty important. It was awful. I saw the goals and it was pretty important. But I think for all that we've been told to lead cups and trophy, we want to win answers, but I don't think there's... Well, we had a few injuries and stuff, but it was still like... It was like Old Palace a couple of years ago, it was just a mess. Yeah, but we got it out of our system. Hey, fake up, it is. Yeah. (LAUGHS) Every week we talk about how good Kebay is, and he was great yesterday, and we talk about the bite he has on the other side of his game, but was he a bit lucky not to be sent off yesterday? I didn't raise that. He was him and Herrera, wasn't it? We were snapping it into the whole game. It looked to me like the referee was going to let him get on with it, basically, but I didn't really... And the TV didn't really pick up on it. I didn't really see what. So he basically smashed the ball away a couple of times after being on the yellow and just looked a little bit hard to take him off. I mean, for sure, I think for Nord and Herrera, because they already did that horrible swan dive in the box. Yeah. They were there quite neatly. They did targeted Kebay, I think. I think they did. Well, part of you said that afterwards, you said there were eight consecutive fails. Actually, there was talking to the full official all the way through, but he got him off before he got sent off anyway, so that's... It did feel a little bit as well. I actually thought the referee wasn't terrible yesterday, but it did... Someone on the BBS medical point, it felt like after 15 minutes, someone said to the referee, "You know you're refereeing my United." And he suddenly went, "Oh, yeah, sorry." He started booking Palace players and letting them off. Technically, they're not. Of course they're not, but I was technically not. But I don't think they would be human if they... What we need to do is stay in the premiership long enough to become one of the elite group of clubs that get decisions. And I do think, I've noticed, I think, it started in a punis, and I think it's carried on in part with you that we do get slightly more 50/50s. But, yeah, Graham Powell, who I've mentioned before, and I'm sorry, I apologise as a friend of mine. But he's got insight and he just says, you know, certainly in the old days with Ferguson, but he says if you're refereeing a vendor game or a Ferguson game, and there's a decision and it's a 50/50 and you replay it and you think, "Oh, it's 50/50, but fuck it, I'll give it to United." So it's just not worth the hassle. Unless it's 51/4, and I was horrified when he said that, but if it's a meaningless free kick in the middle of the pitch, of course you're going to give it their way. And he said something, it's like he said sometimes, with some players and Rudy's one of them the first time another player goes near him, you give him the free kick just to shut him up. Yeah, yeah. And I think there is, it's like Mourinho has made it part. It's like he was, and he's right, Lucas should have been sent off. And that shows what a hypocrite Clamberg is, because, you know, Troy, he did it with Turi last week, and he did it with Lucas yesterday. He sent Galo for two offenses, equally as innocuous and Lucas and Turi stayed off. But afterwards, that's the one for Mourinho. Mourinho oversaw a shamble to the performance yesterday, but went on about, "I can't speak because of the referee, the referee should have been a second blah, blah, blah." And you can't blame referees for thinking, "Oh, Jesus, this is going to be so much, you know, it's very much more hassle." True. And there's still a kind of cash in it, and Rudy has calmed down a lot, but you just see him all the time. He's just chirping all the time at the referee. Constantly. And there are times when you think if you're a referee, you just think, "I'll be really, very, very not send him off." Or you just go, "I can't, I just simply, I'll give." But it would be a really bold ref, wouldn't it, to kind of butt the trend and do something like that? We've seen that every time we get promoted, you see that, you know, Clamberg or the top refs will be referred to the menu and Liverpool players by their first name, so they'll be calling us number ten or number five. And, like I say, the only, you kind of just have to grit your teeth and we've got a manager that referees won't want to upset. Yeah. And the same reputation. Pulus is proudly in the touch line. Yeah. Yeah. In terms of Francis, it just matters. You know, I don't think he refereeed well. You could do it. You could do it. My punch in the nose, though. Well, it's the capability. Yeah. But you could only see the soles at his feet, so you wouldn't wear that upset. I thought, I thought, Darmian possibly was lucky to stay on your stay because he had a couple of chops at Willf on a yellow. I thought it was a couple of, yeah. But, you know, these things probably were leaving themselves out over the, over the piece, but, yeah. Hopefully. Hopefully. Hopefully. I'd rather concentrate on, I think, you know, I was, I was definitely wrong to Moan about the Clatterberg so much. But, because it was Gail's fault, rather than, in that he gave an idiot referee a chance to be an idiot. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I think it's, I'd rather focus on what was good. Yeah. And there were loads of goods. Yeah. Loads of goods. But, although I want to focus on one that, but didn't start of it as a good and became a good. It was Balassie, who I thought was, was very quiet. And then the last 15 minutes suddenly came to life. And it felt like he-- He was the-- Realize what to do. He was the big talking point in this day in the pub beforehand with some vehemence from some people that surprised me a little bit. And so many people said that they hoped that the head injury was obviously not bad. But it was a reason for Balassie to be dropped because he's become, for whatever reason, for all the-- it's not tinkering as such. But he's made a couple of little changes for all, you know, it's given to her arrest, given to her arrest. He's had to give go to her arrest. Balassie is the one that's remained constant and it hasn't particularly been justified in his performance. But then yesterday, out of the blue, the shot hit the bar with a brilliant, the layoff by Dan was just fantastic. And he just came alive. So again, it's just-- I'm just waiting for Tottenham to offer 20 million good for him. That's the coward's way out. But there is. I mean, he's good. He's great. He's made a change in games. He can. And again, I don't want him to go. I want him to stay, but I want him to do more because he's just-- And of course he's had a bereavement. Yeah. Why wouldn't his mind be awesome? But he's just not doing what he's done before. Well, he's good at it. He's good at knocking the ball past the defender, using his strength and then getting it across-- Well, then what? Well, and then trying to get it into the box or trying to shoot. More often, it's trying to shoot. No, but the fucking thing is, Will beats people with his skills and it sometimes feels like Balassie doesn't realise, look, you're strong and you're quick, just do it that way. How many of the penalties have we won? Deservedly. Came from Balassie. Well, none that I can think of. Because that's not his game. To me, his game is being a brute and being quick and being, you know, but beasting past people. Which he doesn't do. No, he doesn't do it the moment. But I just have a lot of sympathy for those people who pay more attention than I do to stats. Because when you look at the stats, it's not scoring enough and not making enough. But it's not just him. I mean, again, we're doing really well because we've got Stryker's. You can't score and creative midfield players. You can't create a wing as you can't crop. It's not potential. Yeah, but again, and we've said that. I mean, we can not be clearly disrupted a lot of his planning. And what we've got is two brilliant wide men. We don't really know what to do. Because, and again, partly, it's because Qibai and Kalfa were better yesterday, but haven't been breaking their neck to get into the box. That's probably because they've been instructed not to. And because Gail tends to be behind them, waiting for the poor work for the edge of the box. And so I would like to see what happens without the lassie. And I suspect all he would do is put Saka there. Yeah. And play a carry on playing exactly the same. Oh, Saka would just cut in from the left of that. Yeah, put in. Yeah, so, but the lassie is, I think the lassie really between the lines and from what I've little snippets of gossip wants to play up front. I don't think he's sulky, but I think he wants to play up front. He's out. I mean, I don't think he will agree that that doesn't really work. Yeah, in the same way that Jenna and I shouldn't play certain about lassie. Oh, yeah, yeah. So many people seem to think. But it, I mean, the fact is what's encouraging is that we are, ninth now in the Premier League. And yet, I still think there's a really lot more to come from us. Yeah. And I think we've, I still think West Brom is the only game where all the way through, we were the better team all the way through. Even yesterday, second part of the first half, we struggled to keep up with United's possession a little bit. They made nothing from it. But I think it's really encouraging that we've got such good players that aren't still just aren't quite firing. Yet we're still doing so well. And you feel like it could at some point. Yeah, I feel, I feel, I want to, I feel like some, like today, I just feel, I hope that Aladise hasn't got time, for example, to work his magic on Sunderland because I suspect, if we score early against someone, we're going to batter someone soon, basically. Like we did at QPR, essentially, obviously, we scored 6 or 7. But I feel that we've had a tricky run of fixtures. I feel that we've, we're coming into a calmer bit of water. And I just want a good performance. A good performance at Liverpool week off. Two home games. Let's see if we can, you know, build them, get their home record. These are the tests, aren't they, really, for a team like us? Yeah. But yeah, this season, we've come up against mostly teams around us, and West Ham maybe not, but we have done OK. Yeah. And again, some of the results, you look at Watford, Watford played West Ham off the pitch, and we beat Watford at their place. And, you know, West Ham were very good against us, but, so that looks like, you know, Watford was a good result. The West Brom have picked up since we beat them, so that was a good result. So, yeah, the wins we got were against good teams, and we just, I think, if we can get something out of Liverpool, in a couple of positive results against us. And then the games after that, we've got a little run of fixtures of teams that aren't in the top. Top six, seven. It's looking all right. Yeah, it's looking all right. It's looking great. It was nice in the Premier League. It was looking brilliant. I think all this is nice about the main art game as well, was that it was just, normally, when you know how you come down, there's always a feeling, sort of atmosphere that feels a bit spiky, with the whole cantaloupe thing and all that. It all seemed to go off yesterday without any incident, and it was all fine. And the United fans went away saying, "Are you deserve to win?" And it was all just kind of... Right, wasn't it? Considering... It's just... The woman who runs a foul stall at Norbury Station was convinced that they'd been a massive mob of man-new fans. A firm, she called them, and said, "What are they?" "Hey, what are they doing at Norbury Station?" If they were buying flowers... But you're right, she says, "Good point. There's none of that intensity." Because they're away fans are... You'd imagine... You go, "I'll try for it." And Roy King is absolutely right. There's no atmosphere. But they're away fans are... Yeah. And last season, it was a bit unpleasant. Yeah. I think there's a generational thing that people still get bemused when I... Because every time I hear Cantonas, and I even mention that I have to say, overrated French pons. Yeah. You should still be imprisoned, but... Yeah, fair enough. Yeah. I do that on football talk shows now of talking head shows. And the younger people were just like, "Well, he's a genius together." But they were just, you know, a man died in the fucking... Yeah. So there's a reason... There's a reason for there to be a lot of... I think a lot of fans don't realise that. Yeah. There's a reason for it to be a lot. Well, also people... Younger Palace fans, and also... Palace as a club... Don't want to dwell on that period anymore. But we were... I don't know how many of them managed to pull that off. But somewhere, their PR department was... Because we came out of that as the villains in the piece. We came out of that. We were one of the few clubs for years before that. I'd had a January and a hardcore of local young black players. And somewhere we returned into the villains of that piece. Yeah. And that was what... I was outraged by that. I was still outraged by that. But, you know, they were different times. And we're a different club now. And I think... As each year goes by, we've got a new generation of fans who simply won't... Wow, they won't remember who he is, and they won't remember what... What caused the problems. And it will just become an increase in the interesting footnote in history. And I think... And I think, also, partly United fans at the moment are slightly anesthetised by... What are you going to picture us? Basically, by the lack of attacking intent. But, yeah, there wasn't that... Yeah. 'Cause, yeah, last couple of seasons, you kind of... Turn your collar up a little bit. Exactly, yeah. When you're getting on a train, you kind of... Yeah. You're looking familiar faces, but it didn't feel like that. It was all fairly kind of normal and pleasant yesterday, which was good. And on another day, probably sort of won, and it would have been the perfect day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good. Okay, great. Let's wrap up part one day. In part two, we've got questions from our lovely listeners. So, join us in a bit. Hello listeners. Welcome back to the five-year plan podcast. Hey, hey, hey, hey. 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He hadn't seen him before he moved down. I saw him getting on the escalator once. It was just wonderful watching. He's like Peter Griffin discovering something new. Right. Questions from our listeners. The first one's from Kevin Childs. Like Kevin. And he says, "Was that the worst, comma, dull, comma, uninspiring main item team we've ever seen at Cellhurst?" I would say yes, except I don't think they were much better than last time we saw them when they beat us to one March April this year. Yeah. When Punch was called the free-kick. When Punch was called the free-kick. When Punch was called the free-kick. And they flange fells. Yeah. Well, you thought Push they were into Julia or something, didn't they? Yeah. Good to see Julia back on the bench, by the way. Yeah. Despite everything we said last week, he probably never played with people in the game. Oh, that's good. Proves away. I think that, you know, performance, because they had arguably had better players that day. And I think that was probably as uninspiring. Yeah. Yesterday was pretty. I think the answer is yes, but I don't think there's still nothing that should take away from... No, no, I agree. Even a lifeless man United team. I mean, I feel that, just as an England fan, you kind of feel... And there are people... I can't wait. It's on some phone, you know, because it kind of went viral when someone just went... If he plays really upfront again, that's proof that Van Hal can't... But Van Hal just done his record, not just his reputation. It's one of the best managers in football. And he's got some really good players here. And I think it's been a while since the United... Mys is United and really set. And I think also United has started to believe the... Paul's goals, you couldn't get a word out of him for 15 years. Yeah, I know how the fuck I won't shut up. And it's all bad, isn't it? And it's all bad. And the others are all kind of... I mean, what a fantastic team they were, but they're rewriting their own myth as we speak. They're reminding people that they're a much better team than they actually... And of course they won the Champions League, they were a great side to watch. They genuinely were a great side to watch. But they need to show up and let the current team get on with it, because all they're doing is making... It's like... It's like... Bright and Bright. It's equivalent of those two on a constant weekly basis saying, "Paulists aren't very good." And you know, God love, he'll admit he ain't right. We know he's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. But even he... And he's... I love his attempts to try and prove that he's a pally's fan as well as an Arsenal fan. I think he would... But he's always positive. I think he would believe. He didn't believe... He would never... He would never criticize. And if he had to... Even when he criticized his Arsenal, you could see he does it. Almost through tears. And the rest of the time, he's really positive and upbeat. And so he's bright, even he talks about pally's. He's really positive and upbeat and for the most part... Why wouldn't they be ex-pally's players? We haven't got a golden age to heart back to. Kind of upbeat. I'd rather you have to see Jim Cannon constantly going on talk talk to the heart back to 1979. Kenny Simpson going on a bit. But you know, and aren't being helped by their ex-players. They really aren't being helped by them. And I think they do need to show up around it. It's a bit ungracious, especially Paul's goals. But his goals spent 20 years refusing to talk to the press afterwards and saying, you know, all that... Well, what happens in the yesterday's in the yesterday's and then suddenly... No, he's just making up for it. Yeah. No, he can't stop. And it's not all that interesting. It's not a lot of insights. It's just that we were better than the current team. And it's just... I don't think that helps. But I do worry about Rooney, because Rooney... Rooney kind of looks like he's lost that bit of... Even that one bit of marshales through ball yesterday. I think three years ago he would have better him. He would have better him getting there before. You know I really wanted that the other way around. And actually that's a really good point, thinking about it. But have you said that? That shouldn't detract from the fact that we didn't beat... No, it doesn't. It doesn't. But it doesn't detract from the fact that we got a point against a team. And they beat Evan through neural last week. Yeah, they still look good team. They also look good team. And we did really well against them. It's just that he... His methods have been effective so far. They're not good to watch. But they are effective. They are getting results. They are... I mean, I'll still believe them away. But the rest of that are going to recover. The thing is that kind of anti-footballer for your world. Because it's quite boring. It's worked for Mourinho, isn't it? In Premier League before. So you kind of... Maybe it's trying to do that as well. I think also, I'm about to point out it worked for Pulus. And it worked... Yeah. If we weren't a Palace fan, we wouldn't cross the road to see Palace plays football in the Pulus. And West Brom... West Brom, the football they played against us was all four as well. So at least we made an idea watching decent players. Isn't it so nice that now we are the antithesis of that. We're trying to play some really nice stuff. Yeah, we are. But it's great. I think sometimes there needs to be a time where we don't. Yeah. There are occasions when... Oh, there was one when Punch in the first half tried to dribble around outside the own box. Well, you saw, I mean, that's just the... My heart at the week was Andy Carroll time to dribble his way out. And it's going to go all the way against Watford, which was just hilarious. Just... Anyway, good question. It was a good question. Sorry, we went off track a bit, but that was good. Jack Pierce is the next question. Hi, Jack. Hello, Jack. And his question says, "Having conceded six against Everton, how certain is it that Sunderland will beat us in a few weeks' time?" Come on, Jack. Almost nailed on, is the answer to that. It's... We... I think Aladice... I really think he's got his work cut out. It's just... It's the same as whoever takes over at Ville. Just... There's just something wrong, Son. And Sunderland... Or what? They played the right first half. And they got two girls back. They didn't. I do. But as soon as that third look, they just went to pieces. And it's just... I mean, the good news is that he can't buy any new players between now and when they play us. And I just... Even he conceded in the first half against Newcastle last week. Newcastle last week, they were atrocious. They were really poor. Yeah, they were, yeah. And defensively today, they were just all over the place. And what was interesting is that Ballmouth... Ballmouth was terrible in the first half today. Really, really poor. But yet, they came out and set it off. And Hanway, a couple of changes, brought, erm... The Stales-la son. And they... Chooks out into the part set now. They should have got something from that game. But Sunderland... You can't see that happening to Sunderland. You can't sing about... Seems like Sunderland and Villa. And this is where it differs from us. We're under pressure. They have such expectations from the fans. And we never did that as Palace fans. But why Ville should have... I've got a couple of mates with Villa season ticket holders. And it kind of saddens me when you go over the park. Because there's a... There's a malaise about a place. It's just such an unhappy place to go. Especially when you go there as a neutral. And it's just like... And then you sit there and all around the ground. They've got the commentary from when they won the... The European Cup in 1981. They've got the words of the commentator wrapped around the whole ground. And it's like... It's greatly when the European Cup is 1981. Yeah. It's like we've got the... You know, the commentary for Paju's goal. Yeah. Right around the ground. It's like you need to get over it. Because there's no reason. New castle fans, sundown fans. There's no reason for them to have expectations. Why would new castle fans have expectations? Because we're the two. So you haven't won anything. It doesn't stop you going down, does it? There's no reason. There's no evidence to prove that you should be in the top half of the table. Let alone top six. But Villa, I've got that. Sunderland have got that. And the trouble is of course... If you're not in the Premier League next year... You must have been out in billions. For like we say, there's every season, don't we? But next year, it's the real big... Is it? Next year, it's the real big height and new money comes in. And that desperation sets hold. And with Al and I are already talking last week, rightly so, saying that, you know, 50 people will lose their jobs here. That can't happen. Oh my God. I thought, well, don't put that pressure on the players as well. Because, A, I'd be surprised if any of them were that fast. But B, I think if you set the day in Delaney, mate, if we go down, 50 people will lose their job. He'd be, I don't think he'd kick him all properly again. Because he wouldn't want that pressure. So, I just... It's strange in it. Because even the last two seasons, you'd go, Christ, we have to beat Sunderland and Newcastle. They must win games. And now, for the first time, if you kind of look at those, you'd go, I think we should beat them. I expect to beat them. But it must win games. But we only do a couple more wins. And I'll be happily saying those two teams can't catch us up. So even now, I can't see Villa. I don't see how Villa can make up a 12-point gap on us, which would be the goal differences for that point. I simply can't see any circumstances. B, I'll pause you, get an England job, and Mallory being forced out of retirement for take over. I can't see any circumstances where Villa can bridge that gap on it. And it's already... And, again, it's partly to do the fact that I'm not allowed to think any of us for what for them to do this well. I thought all three of them would be maybe the one. Or Leicester, especially. And I keep creating. I just keep... I don't know what I keep. Just want bad things to happen to them. I keep waiting for them. They were at some point. They love them. Yeah, they are reluctantly. They are starting to watch. But I just think... I know Vardy's scoring goals, but in Jesus. It comes to this as an England fan. We're talking about Jamie Vardy. We used to play for Fleetwood. Everyone's got to start. Yeah, they do. Yeah, but he's not. He's got to share. No, he's having a hot run. He's having a hot run. He's enjoying himself and good luck to them. And it is good to see different teams up there. It is. It genuinely is. But it also means that the teams that... You know, some of the fans at the start of the season would have been looking at one of the go, Leicester, Norwich, Watford, Bournemouth, West Brom. We'll finish it by then. I just can't say that. God, when was the last time three promoted teams stayed up? Has it ever happened? I don't think it has. I think two have stayed up, but I can't... I think... Again, I'd be... I can't... Bournemouth... I've got... I mean, they have got money, but they've got four big players out. Yeah. You'd imagine one of Sunderland Newcastle footballs will spend enough in January. But again, I don't know. But they're certainly in trouble. Stoker having a pretty torrid time as well, which would have really... Swansea are strolling a little bit? I think they are, but I think they're too good a team to... Well, no, no. I mean, I don't know what you're saying, but yeah, it's... Yes, I can't read what the question was, but it's the question. Me neither. Great question. Great question. Good. It's a good conversation. Yeah, that's what I think tonight. Are you deleting the question as soon as you leave? No, the question was... Oh, yeah. Will Sunderland beat us in two weeks' time? Oh, yeah, of course it will. Yeah, of course it will. Well, hopefully... I imagine that's a game that Connor Wickham would be targeting. Yeah, that's good, but that's of course. Oh, right, yeah. Because he... I think... Did he score? No, I don't think he scored against us, but he had a really good game against us. It's Silas. Silas. Silas. When play was still in charge, was one of the only... It was an evening game, wasn't it? Yeah. And Wickham played really, really well, and we couldn't get the grips with him, which... Yeah. I think he'd probably be targeting that game. Yeah. And I suspect that Wickham... I wonder what... I thought Badford would figure from the start, it's never got that wrong. Well, he played in mid-week, didn't he? He did, and he didn't do brilliantly, but... He came and got the tough game. Did okay. Yeah. I still don't think we're going to see much from him to be honest. I think we might see enough of him so that Chelsea don't bring him back, which is what they're threatening to do. Mm-hmm. But there he goes, I think he's got other things on his mind at the moment. Yeah. Yeah, yes. Yeah. Right, okay. One thing is from David Fraser. Hi, David. He says, "Given the massive prices of the Rugby World Cup tickets, what is the most you would pay to watch Palace?" Depends in what game? Yeah. And what the circumstances were, really? Champions League Final. In 2018, when we get there? I just think you'd pay... What credit cards are you paying? I don't... I'd like to be... I don't know how... Obviously, 350,000 scouts has managed to get into every game. Sorry to claim. It's a very... That's just a very good question. And it should widen into a debate about ticket prices of football matches, but there's only two of them. You can't really do that. It's interesting. The thing is that the frustrating thing is, of course, how few tickets would be available. I'm actually quite just realised that we are having a potential conversation about us being in the Champions League Final. We're literally talking about what could happen. Yeah. Why not? Getting too big. Yeah. A lot. Well, you know what? No, no luck. It would be the one year the Champions League finals in Ukraine. Yeah. Actually, it was 11 o'clock at night kickoff. Which do we know? During a plane strike. Yeah. Do you know what? I still... You know, in the total cut, it doesn't count. But I... I've been a Palace fan for many... Pfft. A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. And I've seen this play of your friendly against continental teams. I saw an Anglo-Italian Cup game when I was a kid, apparently, but... If I ever get to see Palace in Europe, I just... I just have this dream on that. I want it to be hand-elect. I just want to go to Belgium. No, I know we're too fancy. Yeah, not too far. Not too far. Not too fancy. But just 5,000 Palace fans somewhere. I've just got this image of a lovely continental square. Yeah. Just hundreds of friendly Palace fans. A summer game, or like an old... Well, it'd be only in the early game. Yeah. A group game in Europe. Nice sunny evening. Yeah. A few beers. Yeah. And everyone would be... Hey, since when? Oh, since this week. Shh. Yeah. No, no, no. It's completely on my own decision. But, yeah, gone. Oh, it's antibiotics again. So I'd be having... I'll be having peppermint tea or something. But it would be lovely. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not beyond the rules of possibility. But that would be brilliant. I think we'd pay whatever, surely. I think... I think... I think... Mrs. Day is only a rumble way. I'll go and ask her. Out of the blue. Oh, we could dip into the victory. We could dip into the vector and J.C.I.S. account. We could. Yes, we could. That's what it's there for. Yeah. Yeah. That would be... Yeah. The big data. Good. Another good question. I've only been to one... I've been to one final year of 2000, was it? In Portugal? No. Holland. Oh, yeah. I think it was. Yeah, no, sorry, yeah. Which was... France, Italy. Which was... Which was... Which was brilliant. I just... The Thorpe in Palace. Anywhere in. Yeah, it would be... Or a Lichtenstein. That would be great. Well, Slovenia. That part of the world is supposed to be the next up and coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So... Don't know how I know that. You'll get end of court in a cable car. I'll put it in the building. Oh, don't they give you a loud in one of those? Erm... Right. Next question is from Karl Mortimer. Like Karl? Not the Karl Mortimer. Who's the Karl Mortimer? Let's look it up. It's a Palace player. It's a child player. Really? Yeah. I don't think so. That's right, all right. But maybe, who knows? Because when do we realistically, which is a word we do not use often on the pod, but we'll go with it, think we can achieve 40 points? I'm glad somebody's asked that question. Coming so soon after the Champions League final question. That kind of indicates the two levels. I think we can get... Looking at the fixtures. I think we can... I think we can look at five wins before Chris. We've got another ten, eight, nine. Especially with the big guys out the way. I counted last night. I think we've got ten games before. I think we could have... I think we could have five wins. I think we could have 31 points by... Yeah. We might only have 16. But I think... I don't think it will take 40 points, to be honest. Erm... But... You know what's interesting last night? Everyone watching match the day, and again, on the goals of Sunday this morning. It's an indication of how... Everyone's slightly taking this for granted a little bit at the moment. Everyone was talking about how brilliantly... Watford had done. Everyone's going to have Watford had brilliant. They've got 16 points already. They're almost safe. You know, well, we're above then. Everyone's going to... West Ham has just set the world on fire. Just West Ham are just amazing. Only four points ahead of us. And so it's kind of like... It's almost like it's been routed back to... We're in possibly candidates for going lower down again. But it's like we just seem to be taken for granted that we're there. But is it taken for granted and the fact that everyone kind of... Almost now expects Palace just to be around there? I think maybe. Or maybe they're just assuming that that won't... Yeah, maybe they just expect us to be alright. And... Yeah. I mean, it wasn't really a blip. We had two disappointing results against two teams that were doing really, really well. But it's nice that we respond because we've always said... Yes, it is. We've said before and put about all party as these runs of defeats and weirdness. So it's nice to stem that. I don't know how it will feel. Yeah. I really will find... I mean, if we were to get... I don't know when you declare yourself safe from relegation. I mean, when it's... I know when I... Yeah. When it's mathematically, I'm still really regretting. I wish I hadn't said it after the West Brom game. I wish I hadn't said we're not going down. I'm still really regretting that. I think it's going to be really... It's going to be really strange feeling. Because we've had seasons in the past in the Championship where you've known by December. It's not going anywhere down or up. Yeah. It's just dull. Yeah. But it's going to be really odd if we get halfway through January and suddenly go, "We've got 40 points." But then you look up. You look, you do. And it'll be great. I mean, but then it'll be really... It'll be really weird to be going. Yeah. To be honest, the way the league is going at the moment, if you get 40 points by January, however, you probably are looking at the top of the table. The big test then is that you... And I'm sure it won't be a problem. It's just keeping that enthusiasm up. It's that because in the last two years... Again, people really forget. For me, Pardew's achievement was every bit as good as Pulitzer's. Every bit as good as Pulitzer's Pardew's achievement. People overlooking how bad we were in Pardew. It was better, for me, it was better than Pulitzer's. But it happened quicker. But we've had two seasons of... The second half of the season being amazing. Being fantastic. And somehow, the punis one did feel more like a cup run. And Pardew's one didn't have quite that same intent, but it's still brilliant. It's still fantastic putting those wins together. Maybe because it was our first season on the punis and we were so bad. But it's just like... It's going to be really weird not having that. Yeah. Well, unless we now have a terrible run before Christmas. Yeah, even so. But you have to be awful. I just can't see happening. No, I can't. We feel more solid now, don't we? Well, just so far ahead of where we were points was. Yeah. Anyway. So, but yeah, it's a good... I would possibly end the generation, but that'd be great. It'd be amazing. It'd be fantastic. It'd be perfect. And again, it would be until every year about progress. That'd be another step towards whatever next level we're going to. Of course it would be. Fantastic. Yeah. Okay. Next question is from Ben Silverstein. Hi, Ben. He says, "When will one of our strikers score a goal in the Premier League?" And I'm going to roll it out. But let's see if we can guess which striker will score a next goal. Well, in open play. Yes. I think you're advising the window as our top scorer. Yeah. Yeah. Let's say open play striker. So, you've got... The flip of the answer is if I knew the answer to that question, I wouldn't say it out loud. I'd go straight straight. Yeah. Straight to Patty Powell. I think it's probably more likely to be against someone than it is against Liverpool. I don't know. I just hope it's soon. It's a good question. And of course it's an area for debate. And I think, I mean, the thing is, if you take recent games out in the equation, the score in the Premier League isn't bad. And I think I'm not making this up. It seems to me that he tends to score his goals less. He scores fewer goals when he starts a game, when he's got the responsibility. But that might be pub logic. I don't know. I could agree with that. I don't know. But it's clearly an issue that we need to score. We need to score more goals. And we need to score goals when we play as simple as that. But in the meantime, as we said earlier, we're still doing really, really well without. It's not. You actually are doing very well. If you talk about three goals and you're still. Well, think about how well we could be doing. If we did have a striker up there scoring exactly. And I still think, I don't know if it will be Charlie Austin, but I suspect that we will bring a striker in. Yeah. Another striking option. And let's see, because I don't think, I think when Wickham comes in, I think we'll be having the same debate about Wickham. Do we have about Cameron Jerome and about Gaels? I know. I'll be saying, if one of us says, "Shut up, Granddad." I'll be saying, "You know what? A record is let alone work sticks." I'll be saying, "Well, Wickham, me is strike at scores." And I'll be in the score goals. It's a good question. Well, good. Should we try and guess then the next strike? I'm going to say Gaels Sunderland. No, I'll tell you what. I'm not, actually. It's going to be a big romantic story. Wickham. Yeah. The start gets under the score gets fired, but it's getting injured again. Next score again. That's what I'm going for. Okay. I'm going to go... It's specific, doesn't it? That's very specific. And if you could put money on that, you should put money on that. But I'm going to go for Gaels against Liverpool. Okay. From open play. Okay. Given his recent record against them. Good. I think we should end the questions there. Okay. Very good questions this week. There was. Very, very good indeed. Part three, we're going to look forward to our trip to Liverpool next Sunday. So, do you want to submit? Hello listeners and welcome back to the final part of this week's FIP podcast. Three. Three. Three. Three. Street's gone. He's gone. He's got board already. It's pod 155 and it's sponsored by JCIS, the global research and brand consultancy from South London. Visit JCIS.com and vector printing for your print and embroidery needs. Whatever they may be, visit vector.co.uk and that's vector with a... Okay. What do you mean whatever they... Well, Pete, I mean embroidery. Pete, some people might... In fact, I got told the other day that someone had ordered a big vector order off the back of the pod. Oh, no. So, yeah. So, whoever that was, you are welcome and we hope you enjoy whatever you've ordered. I want to go embroidered. I don't know. Or printed. Oh, it's more like it's been printing than embroidered. Probably printing. I feel like more people are going to print these days than embroidery. You talk about embroidery a lot, I think. I do, yeah. You're a embroidery fan, I think. Forgetting was an age thing, isn't it? Let's pull up the tapestry, Julie. Okay, yeah. So, we had us before they had live football, we just got a tapestry. Three weeks later, we got a slow motion tapestry of the game. Good. That's what they used to do in the twenties of thirties. They used to do the game in cartoon form. Really? Yeah, you'll see a lot of them. They're quite easy. You'll see them on the web. They're fascinating, according to advertisers. So, on the Friday, they had a cartoon graphic illustration of the last week that came against Bradford North. Well, like a sort of comic strip. Yeah, yeah. Really? Yeah, yeah. So, it'd be a cartoon that wanted to play. So, it'd be like a picture of a cherubine drawing up at the northern ground with some folk and a man outside of the flat cap and a whip here. And it would say they're usually friendly welcome. And then it would have a picture of the net. Cartoon. They're the player called Albert Pigeon. They're really charming. But most papers did that. They used to sort of recreate the game. I think that's your point. It wasn't Arab newspaper recently. They got banned from reporting on Swindon. So, they did that. They did cartoons. Did that. Well, yeah. Should bring it back. It's a good idea of people forgetting how it wasn't that long ago that we... I remember when we beat Ratson 4'2 in 1977. And why didn't you go up? It's just you crowded around one transistor radio. There's no... It wasn't on... Then when teletext came in, wow. Oh, teletext. That was the future. That was the future. That makes so easy now to access. Not just the results, but dodgy feeds for every... Well, all the goals on Twitter. There's vines of them within 30 seconds or whatever. What a time to be like. All our grabs next. Oh, I can't wait for that. So, it's Liverpool away next game before the international break. We got a question from... One of our listeners, which I've put into this part. I know you don't like it when I do that, but... Yeah. You know, we've got to mix it up sometimes. It's clever for juicing. It's clever. It is. It is. Thanks. And it's from one of my favourite named listeners to the podcast, which is Dr. Awake Stephen. Hi, Doctor. It's just... Just... Will your doctor or just like a fully qualified pub doctor like me? I think possibly pub doctor, because his Twitter handle doesn't have the doctor in it. It's their name. It's a great... It's a great name. Twitter wouldn't let him have the doctor. And Doctor Awake, I can probably stand there wrong, says, "How many goals will Gail score?" I'm sorry. I can't live at all. It's amazing how quickly... Palace Liverpool has become a thing. And it's now one of the must-see fixtures on the... That's only in two seasons, less than. Yeah. Because of them, because of the three-three. I think so. But even then it felt like there's a bit of recent history, and then a couple... I don't know. Well, I suppose you had the nine-year-old in the background and the four-three. But I think, yeah, pretty much the three-three. And then us beating them under Warlock. And then spawning Stephen Giro's party. And the thing is with Klopp, there's a Klopp's and massive student of English football. So you'll know all about that, and you'll know about Palace. And I think, for the first time in Palace, he'll see... He'll be able to say to his team, "That's what I'm talking about." I think, because so far we've talked about... I don't think what Klopp would have expected is that this sort of intensity revels in. He talks about that high energy football. Pretty much every game in the Premier League is like that. He was in South Amsterdam to the way that last week. Not quite as much, but he's still pressed quite high. She also not so yesterday. But I think this will be the first time when Klopp gets his first real experience of a passionate, intense team that really go out to his people and go out. And I'm not sure whether that will play into his hands on it. I think yesterday's result is a misleading one for them. Albeit it was hilarious being in the portions watching... John Terry visibly writing retirement. It was a little bit poignant and sad as well already. There's something wrong with Chelsea. And I hope Liverpool get carried away with that result because it's still very much a work in progress. I think they will though. I don't think Klopp will do that. I don't think so, but I think he'll relish... I think he'll relish Palace coming there. I think he'll pretty much... I think he'll think he knows what we're going to do. And I think he'll want us to do it, but I still think he'll find it harder to... And again, it's Liverpool... You know, you go in there with that little bit of uncertainty. And I know Klopp will be aware of that, but I don't say it's... Yeah, we were talking about this in the lead cup draw. Those were just old enough to remember. We were in Shrewsbury, we were our bogey team. And now here we are, and we're talking about Palace starting to become a team that Liverpool don't want to face. And I think it's going to be really... I think it's a really potentially really interesting game. And I still... A more optimistic... Probably not what it would be before going to Watford, for example. Just because I just know it's a game we'll be up for. And because I know that we are still cut out for playing away from him. I think Pardu is a little bit shocked at the lack of intensity and a lesser performance. And I don't think that will happen again. So I think it's potentially a really, really good game. I think Palace are a sort of team that someone like Jürgen Klopp actually might have a lot of respect for. Because I think we've got the fans that are based himself from German fans. I think we like a club like Palace. I have this... I wouldn't say fantasy, I wouldn't say it, I'd go as far as... I do have this hope, I've got this vision of Klopp afterwards talking about that's what brought him to the Premier League. Because certainly Mourinho has always had that about Palace. And I think the Palace fans, as always, will do a remarkable job, but despite the fact that... Palace fans shouldn't be expected to get a Liverpool 4 o'clock on a Sunday afternoon in Liverpool and vice versa. It's just something that's got to be sorted out. It's not about a Sunderland. But it's about a Sunderland game. It's just... It's just insane. It's just insane. And it's just something needs to be done about that. It's just... They need to be spread out those fixtures, but it's just wrong. The last train home in Liverpool is like an hour after full time or something. It's too old. How are the Sunderland fans a bit? How are the Sunderland fans a bit? Exactly. It's insane. It's got to be sorted out. It's like that ludicrous time we played Sunday in an unboxing day. It's just like it's got to stop. But that won't stop Palace fans being fantastic out there. And I think... I do have to say, I've got this vision of Klopp afterwards saying we were the better team at World Good Game. Yeah. I think when Klopp... I think that is literally that's a sort of circumstance he'd have been thinking of when he's talked about when it's come to the Premier League and what he loves about the Premier League because it will be a lot of colour and enthusiasm and energy. And we will have a gut and simple as that. And I think Pargy will be sensible enough to know that they are still quite vulnerable at the back and that we can get in amongst them and that I don't think there's suddenly become a goal machine. I just think Chelsea's back forward. I feel like Liverpool have really probably been tested, I don't think, really. No, not under Klopp. No, not at all. There's even Southampton. They say Southampton don't play that sort of intense pressing game. They do get in the mostly, but they played ball with the other night. Ball with a lot of injuries. Chelsea just were very good. Taught them away. Taught them with a proper test and Liverpool faded very badly for a second or so. I think this is a real test for them. I think, perversely, I had to say, I'm more optimistic about going in. I probably was before. In terms of starting line up, assuming Suarez back, would we drop him in for Kelly and leave it as that? From Saturday? I think so. I think Kelly, a bit of a Tory time first, I think he got booked in here, I think. But yeah, I think, I think Suarez for Kelly would be our starting line up. I think that I would be perfectly happy for Kelly to start anywhere I'm back for. I don't think he deserves anything but praise to be perfectly honest. I think great for us. He's a big fan. He's a boy. He's a really good defender. Unfortunately, there are some Palace fans who see Suarez on the other side, bombing up and down in a much more flamboyant style. And that's not part of Kelly's game. Exactly. There are people who think that, you know, Gary Neville says the first thing that's got to do is defend. And that's kind of become a bit unfashionable. But Kelly's a very good defender. Doesn't add much going forward. But that's fine by me. I was just probably a really good defender first and fourth. It's a cent about for me. Yeah, it's for me every week. I think he probably will be eventually. But I think, yeah, I think Suarez for Kelly would be the logical. And Balassie in Sacco maybe? I just can't see him dropping, but I don't see why. What do you do now? Okay, if you were part. No, I think, I think there were... No. I think there were enough glimpses on Saturday yesterday to show he's possibly getting back to where he was. He was turning towards the end of the game. Yes. So I think I'd be amazed. I'd be amazed if he didn't play him now. Because he had his excuse with a head injury. You could have... Yeah. That would have been a very... Well, he had his excuse when his father passed away. That would have been a reason, not an excuse within a reason. But I'd be amazed if it wasn't the same starting line up. Unless Wickham's fit. But even though I don't think he would start. I don't think he's going to be. No. And they're talking about three or four weeks before that. Yeah. But... So yeah, I'd be really amazed of it. And Kayles got a good scoring record and it's Liverpool as well. And I think he earned his earned a start after Saturday. Yeah, he has. Yeah, definitely. And Hennessy and Gold still has done the right thing. I can't see. I don't... Again, there was some debate again in the person's arms. I don't see where the debate is. Hennessy's party is... I think even if Speroni's fit party will... I don't see what... I can't see anything that Speroni's done that would make you say you shouldn't be playing. I'm not you. I mean, it's a generic you. Yeah. But I think a lot of it is just... It's loyalty and devotion to Julian. I don't know. It's a process in the past. I mean, I thought Hennessy would be our first choice keeper last year. But I think pretty much Hennessy was still a bit mystified as to McCarthy's situation. Why he bought him and why he didn't tell us which of his first choice keeper was. I think it was like McCarthy has been dropped essentially, isn't it, for those games and hasn't got back in? Yeah, hasn't got back in. I think Hennessy is our first choice keeper now and I haven't got a problem with that. No, he's doing all right, isn't he? That back five, for me, is do any Dan Swarrie Ward Hennessy's as fine by me? Yeah. I think most privilege teams would be happy with that. Definitely. As a back five. Definitely. To be honest. Yeah, I agree. Good. Okay. Well, that's going to wrap up. Pod 155. So, I'm doing the work of four minutes. It is, but you know what? I think we did it right. Yeah. I think like Palace on Saturday, we were competent. Yeah, we came out a little right. Yeah, we did. Yeah, it was signs of encouragement. Yeah. Good. Thanks for joining me, Kevin. And listeners, thank you very much for listening. We will see you after the Liverpool game next week. So, take care. Give us a damn before the end of the pod. So, goodbye. My brother-in-law died suddenly. 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A great performance from Palace against Manchester United and perhaps unlucky to get all three points. Jim and Kevin are on their own this week but chat over that performance and look forward to the trip to Liverpool.
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