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I'm fine. Unfortunately, even at my advanced age, I still allow defeats to ruin my whole weekend. Well, let's start. I'm fine. I'm fine. Let's start with the Premier League, I'm fine. We're doing very well. Let's start with the defeat at Leicester then, which is the last Palace game. One nil, Jamie Vardy scored, seventh goal in seven games for him, which equals records by other... Yeah. Good... Yes. Best try. We'll see. La, la, la, la. What was it about? Was it a bad performance on Palace? Or were they a bit unlucky? Well, I didn't see the game, but the first half, apparently, was pretty lackluster. Second half better, but I probably have to bear in mind that three of the back four, probably not our first choice. Back four... Those two, because Mariappa came in and then Kelly was moved to left back. Do we think they did all right? Kelly, before it's sort of done all right for us at left back. Without seeing the game, it was hard to tell, but I think the mere fact that it wasn't three of us starting back four, without a recognised striker, Leicester are mysteriously a team in great form, playing very well, which Jamie Vardy is the best player England's ever seen and should leading them to World Cup glory. And has been now linked with Real Madrid? Yeah, good luck with that. Are you serious? Yeah, seriously. Have you made that up? No, genuinely. I mean, Vardy, I mean, I'm slight, this is all slightly sour grapes and jealousy, because we haven't got somebody who can score like he can, but he hasn't set the world alike when he's played for... Not only when he can score. Well, basically, yeah. Yeah, that would be a good start. And I'm not looking for seven in seven, I'm just looking for like one in four. Yeah, and there's a certain... Leicester are a decent side at home, they play over a certain 10-pounder, a certain pace that we obviously didn't quite match, but I think the thing to grasp whole of is that we asked something in the Premier League and that's very good. I think we've all sort of bought into the fact that our awayform, I mean, we get so optimistic about our away games, that we're slightly surprised when it doesn't quite come off, but we lost one day away to a form-side in the Premier League, so there's no, there's no discount, and let's be fair, unfortunately, for all the praise we've hit on Hangarland, pretty much came from one individual. Well, that's all it was as well. Leicester did a lot of, certainly in the first half of the street, didn't they? But in terms of actual click-out chances, they hit the post of that all Brighton shot, but aside from that, again, and again, like the West Ham game to an extent, Palace was solid and kept them at bay. I don't know, I thought they looked more dangerous than us from the breakdown every time Ball was turned over, like I did worry about their ability to sort of get in between that area between our midfield and our defence. I mean, other than the fact that we don't have a recognised striker, our front fours looking dysfunction, I'm still not sure about the mix between Cabaya, McArthur at the base of the midfield. We've got no defenders left, and Hennessy's footwork is shocking. I thought it was a great Saturday, genuinely enjoyed it. Well, I think, well, what, Cabaya's not, I think we have discussed the Cabaya, McArthur thing quite a lot on the pod, and we have got options in midfield, Cabaya's always going to be a starter to us, but, you know, just going forward, they're not, they're sitting, for me, they're sitting too deep, basically, the neither of them are getting forward enough, and then punching still seems, it's not quite the force he was, it's not quite working up front, whether that's down to the lack of a nominal strike, I don't know, but it's interesting that Paju's talking up Conal Wickham again today, but his goal record in the Premier League is not brilliant, I mean, it's clear that he's going to get straight back in the team when he's, when he's fit. Banford came on, it's clearly an issue with Banford, that's interesting that Banford comes on the week after Chelsea said he doesn't get more games, he's coming back. I thought he did okay, I thought he made a bit of a nuisance of himself, and one of few headers, I mean, his runs weren't at times the most clever, and arguably he didn't get himself into enough genuine goal scoring positions, but I thought his link up play was okay, I mean, he didn't look terrible, which is ideal and a great recommendation of a player, isn't it, it's an interesting one, like just said it last week, I think in some ways it played out in a slightly similar way to parts of that West Ham match, in that, you know, the front four just again looks fairly dysfunctional, the ball was coming back far too quickly, and because of that Kebai McArthur just looked a little bit flooded at the basement field because they don't have that physicality when the ball's constantly coming out of them, and it was mobile and dynamic as they are, and they are both of those things, it's very difficult for them to show the sort of physicality to really guard that deep area if they're constantly having to deal with, you know, a front four, he can't retain possession at the moment or create a great deal, I mean, the first half I thought we were, I want to say, abject or terrible sort of words of that sort of deal, because it didn't look like Leicester were going to score at Willa or anything stupid like that, but we didn't really look like a scene that they're going to score at Willa or at all ourselves, you know, and it's one goal, it's one goal in six games now from open play, which is just not ideal really. Well, it doesn't end itself one point to the main problem at the moment, there's no cutting edge up front. Well, no, there hasn't been, we'll see, I mean, also there's two things, I don't think any of us thought that Kebai was being bought as a defensive midfielder, we're not seeing, he's not getting the opportunity to create further forward, I think a lot of us thought he would play in front of possibly the Eddley and McArthur, which would create problems elsewhere, put that punch in, I think one of the reasons that Paji is probably so keen to get Wickham back is that Wickham will win a lot of free kicks in and around the box, which until we buy a striker in January, all the summer, it's going to be probably our best option, but to be fair, it's been our best option for goals for our entire time in the Premier League, we've always looked more likely to score from set pieces and we have for open play, we've had some good moments for open play this season, mainly against lesser teams. And I think we shouldn't forget, as with West Ham, I think some of us probably underestimated West Ham I thought they might be in a false position and felt the same way about Leicester, that's clearly a lot of fluke, despite me thinking that Ranieri was a terrible decision, Leicester have played a really well, they play a high tempo energetic game, so it isn't on paper, it's not, if we'd lost to them last season, that game would be the one that would have been a terrible result, but that wasn't a bad result, we're still 7th in the Premier League, but it's just not quite sparking in the way, but to be, we've also had this conversation, there aren't that many times, it's probably partly against City and the whole of the West Brom game, there aren't that many games where we said yeah we were good for the entire game, we've had that many games where we've, no we haven't, that's why I'm still quite optimistic and I'm still encouraged, because I think there's a lot more to come from us, I still think the part of you who hasn't quite found the way to get the best out of Cabay and hasn't solved that forward conundrum and hasn't worked out, punching isn't quite the force you was at the end of last season, but it's still a good player, the last he seems to be the one that's undroppable at the moment, he clearly can't work, he's making his mind up about Sucker or Zaha, maybe that needs to be looked at, maybe we just need to try a different approach, but yeah we've got two difficult games coming up and then two winnable games after that, but I wonder if against Manu we might revert to a moral-fashioned, fearless type palace and we have done in the past, which might suit us a little bit. So Cabay, going back to Cabay, would you guys try him in the number 10 then, would you do, because he did, when he played for Newcastle, he did play more defensively, he has played that number 10 position for France and I know a lot of people have repeated the mantra look, he's a deep lineman feel, but I suppose you've got to kind of look at attributes really haven't you, the ability of a player to plan that position, because at the moment, because of the various injuries that we've got, the only one who seems to be in favour and or fit is Punchin, and Punchin obviously hasn't played his entire career as a number 10, but switched in there last season and did so, it's a pretty good effect, because he had the speed, the thought and the movement and the passing ability to actually create some danger in the final third. I think one of the things that Cabay clearly brings to the team is the defensive side of his game, the interceptions, the tackles, everyone's been pointing to those stats and probably rightly so, because I've been very impressed with this season, there's nothing to say that he couldn't play an equally imposing game further forward, plenty of teams now play such a pressing game, that you're defending from the front anyway, there's nothing to say that those skills and that ability to win possession back wouldn't be sort of well used as a number 10, if anything perhaps that would then give us a base to mount attacks and further out the pitch rather than winning the ball very deep midfield and then looking isolated, because Punchin has gone hiding a little bit reasonably and you've got two wings at least who are on the pitch on Saturday, he looks woefully out of form, so I don't think it's quite as stupid as some people are making out, he's not got a huge amount of experience there, but I don't think that it's something that's so beyond their own as a possibility as to be a stupid suggestion. I don't think he's stupid at all, I think there's a world of difference between the deep line midfielder and the defensive midfielder, I think you can be very creative from the deep line position, not at all used to be, but at the moment he hasn't got the opportunity to be that creative because there's not that much going on ahead of him, and I think there are other players in the team who could do the defensive part of his job equally as well, and I would like to see him slightly give him the liberation to play a little bit further forward, because like Streety says he can win the tackles there, he's got more options if he wins the ball further up, I just think it might be time to possibly give Punchin the rest, I don't know who you, the front four is a problem, it's definitely a conundrum without a focal point striker if you like, but hard you've never particularly liked, you've always got the impression that he picked Murray sort of despite himself rather than any enthusiasm, but clearly that front four, there were glimpses against Man City in the first half and there was that movement and it looked really good, but at the moment it's not quite coming off, and it's just a big, it seems to be that there's a big just watching the highlights, there's a big gap between Cabay and MacArthur and the front four, and they're not doing enough to, it's also a different front four every game, he switches every week doesn't it, I don't think there's any doubt that come January, which is the worst title, I think I wouldn't be surprised if we had a club that goes in for Charlie, we need, depending on how Wickham does if fit, there's nothing about Wickham's part, I mean Wickham is a really good footballer, but there's nothing about Wickham's past to suggest that he's suddenly going to score 20 goals for us, I mean, again he will hold the ball up better and bring other people into play and he's strong and he's physical and you can't boss him about and he will win as three kicks in and around the box, but he's not a natural striker, maybe not, but questioning whether Murray would do the same thing, start a last season, then he proved himself to be someone that could go on a run, not 20 goals a season, but could score regularly, we'll go around in circles under Murray argument in every part of us, I'm still one of those who think that we got the five million quid for Murray, was good value, I think said die, except as I said after the West Ham game, I had no real argument for those players, those fans who said we could have done with Murray, but there again, you saw Ballmouth give a goal away yesterday when Murray failed to control the ball in the middle of his own half, gave away a three kick, which we saw time and time again for us and Tottenham scored from the resulting three kicks, so I don't think we should be the nostalgic for a 33-year-old who couldn't be more delighted than anybody else, he had a really good spell, but he's not the answer, he wouldn't get us 20 goals in the Premier League. It's bad timing, isn't it, Murray? Then we can get injured, I think, more than anything else. And Shemaq being out as well, Benford, which again, Benford's non-involvement is a massive mystery, because the depth should be there, I'd be interested to see whether Gayle starts again. Fraser Campbell, we're not particularly enamoured with half to Saturday. Has anyone never enamoured with Fraser Campbell? It comes back to the different expectations now, where you can't be emotional and about players. You can't just sort of, out of the sense of loyalty, say you're keeping on, if we want to continue doing one of the Premier League players, and God love him, he's not, really. I think arguably Gayle could be in a different system, but if we haven't got them and we haven't got time to see them come through the youth, we need to buy them, and there's no real problem with the rest of the team, I don't think. I think we've got enough creativity to supply the ball for a decent strike, it's just... When it clicks, it's not clicking on it. Let's go back on to a couple of decisions in the game, most notably the penalty calls for Palace at the end, three penalty calls in the last couple of minutes of the game. Fowl on Wilf, a handful, and a Bamford one, which was kind of the weakest of the three. The Wilf penalty, what do you think about that? Well, we put a poll up on the FYP, so it's Twitter, didn't we, to ask the general popular so they thought it was a better referee out of Mike Dean and a moldy sponge, and the moldy sponge got 93%, and I think it was probably robbed, I mean, it should have been far higher. Those were just three, terrible. You can make an argument for perhaps the Wilf one, because of the nature of how he's gone down. And then the guy who's left his leg training out, I think this contact, I mean, obviously it's one of those areas that's massively ground, and it's not a fail, it doesn't mean it's a dive. That's the other thing as well. Well, I thought that was incredibly harsh, to be honest. There seems to be no grey area anymore for referees, and if they don't give a penalty, they almost always give a yellow card for diving, which is wrong. I don't know how he didn't give the handball, frankly, I mean, looking back at them, that looked to me to be the clear-cut one, you know, are you going to get a Mike Dean? I mean, he'll have some days where he is actually quite a good referee, but there's just such an overwhelming, pervasive hubris about him, that when he does have a bad day because he's so convinced that he, you know, is the world's greatest referee, it'll just end up looking rather ridiculous like he'd done Saturday. There's clearly something about, and I wouldn't say this on a general football podcast because people would laugh at me, but there's something about Dean and Clamberg, and Palace it doesn't mix. That's why I like John Moss, John Moss seems to like Palace, you know, he doesn't, clearly, because that's inclined that he's biased in some way, which is not, but for some reason we seem to get more 50/50s when he referees, and we do win Clamberg and Mike Dean referees, and I don't know what the answer is, and most other football fans would say you're talking nonsense, because it's not true, but from a lot of experience, you're heartless, you're not, I don't think it will as a diver or get wind-pounties, that kind of thing. I don't think there's any penalty that Wolf's got this season that wasn't a clear cut penalty, the one against West Bromster, he wasn't one against Wolf, it certainly was. There will always be some referees I think, and you're talking about the more experienced ones and the ones with the egos, the ones who like the attention who you probably have to convince more to give a penalty, but there again Clamberg gave the one against Gail, which, in normal circumstances, you would expect him not to give, so the truth is they're not biased against us, but that's not going to stop me saying it, but the experience seems to indicate that they are two referees that your heart seems a little bit when you see their names at the back of the program and you hear them announce, and there is a certain look at me, I'm more important than you are, and they clearly seem to enjoy waving people away, but you saw that with the Sunderland Newcastle game, you can argue about whether it was a penalty all night and the fact is the ref doesn't give it, and in the end you shouldn't really be, you should play better for most of the rest of the day but not have to rely on. You're talking about their Colochini, I mean it was never a penalty. I thought it was a penalty. I thought it was a penalty but not a red card. I didn't think it was the sort of thing you see all game, then they never get you to think the problem was, I think Fletcher went down too easily, and the problem was the ball was quite a long way from Colochini, so it looked, it didn't look like he was just shielding it, but it's one of the, again that's a beauty of football, you argue about it all night, you'd be furious if it was given against you, it was given for you, but at the moment we don't seem to be getting them, it's even again there's a big debate, you know, your way to a rate not booked for quite a bad fail, in the first five minutes of the game, I might entirely commentate it, I said what's the difference between that and Gay was booking last week, and this nonsense, and Gary Neville and Danny Murphy said well no, it's the Manchester Derby, you can't book somebody out of the un-bollocks, it's over a fail, it's not a fail. Well it's a difference that Gayle's crystal pallet's player and he's not a Manchester team player. Yeah, well also, yeah, I also, Danny Murphy talking about the Marnay fail, the second yellow card, exactly the same as Gayle's last week. He said Gayle was an idiot for getting involved and he said Marnay shouldn't have been sent off because it was a striker's tackle, so, you know, that, again, other referees wouldn't have sent Gayle off last week, but, you know, as we said Gayle shouldn't have put himself in that situation, we shouldn't be given the referees a chance to give that decision, and in the final analysis we should have played better against Leicester rather than relying on referees to give us decisions. Very, very, very true, would, and would having any of the bounties at the end of the game being justified, would pallets of getting a sneak in the one will draw, being a justified result over the, when does that supply, when does that matter, I'm just, I'm afraid to duplicate with, well, obviously, never, I don't know, with that seeing the whole game, I'm just looking at the highlights and no, but that, again, it doesn't matter because we've been robbed enough times, so. I thought it was a more marginal game than the West Ham one was where we clearly deserved to lose, and we probably would have deserved to lose even had we retained Dwight Gell on the pitch. I don't know, a second off, I thought we'd huffed and puffed a little bit, but even then, you know, by the end we were resorting to just flinging it into the box and hoping for some knockdowns, basically, and hoping that world could produce some pieces of management, that's where, you know, we're not coming up at that, you know, one of those interventions nearly led to a penalty. I think your draw wouldn't have been an unfair result on the balance of play, but equally, you can't really be grudge Leicester to win too much, because I thought they were comfortably better in the... You can be grudge to them the way for you people massively, because I thought, you know, Palace were very mediocre in the first half. Well, having said that, I think you're right about the West Ham game, I think the game was sending off mass the fact that West Ham, with hindsight, were a better team than us on the dough. I thought it was a good game when we played the right, but West Ham were better than us. And, yeah, the Leicester game, we didn't get that sort of rub with a green, in a sense, a negative rub with a green to hide the deficiencies, but they're not massive deficiencies, where we didn't play well, and we could still have got a point out of it, and we're still seventh in the Premier League, and we've still got players to come back, so it's, again, as we've said last week, it's a measure of how well we're doing, that we're frustrated and disappointed by these results, but they're not vital. They're not vital, they're not, you know, you look at the lead table, West Ham. What's ten games now, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Which is what we always say, sort of, that when the table starts to kind of take form. Yeah. And we're not, with all these games, West Ham and Leicester, even though we didn't play particularly brilliant in either of them, we're never out of them or we're never getting smashed or turned over, and we've got a chance of getting something, which I think is the testimony to the fact that this is how good this team is. We're becoming a team that nobody really wants to look, wants to play against, and, you know, watching that Sunderland Newcastle game yesterday, it's just, for all that Sunderland won it, the first half, they were as bad as any team or soon in the Premier League for years, and the second half Newcastle wasn't that much better. There are much worse teams than us in the Premier League, and it's been a while since we could, since we could say that, I think. Actually, this early on. Yeah, I mean, it's just that slight disappointment that we've had the adrenaline of previous seasons that, you know, I think we should remember that the first half of the first two seasons in the Premier League were desperate at this stage, we all thought we were going to go down, and then we had the brilliant turnaround and all the adrenaline and excitement that came with it, and now we're just getting used to being a competent Premier League team, and we have to avoid falling into the trap that we accused joint fans of falling into that we expect too much. Did you think that I'll ever happen to Palace fans? I think, yeah, of course you will. Yeah, it's all about people I've ever reacted to, haven't you, already did ask a couple of results? Yes, there's still people who are ready to go to two defeats, two defeats on the speed, not scoring many goals, but yeah, it's, it's, it's human actually Palace fans are the best fans in the world, but we still have some human beings amongst them, and some of those human beings will, you know, expect too much or ever react to various games, but I wouldn't like to get into a situation where, because I really enjoy the fact that we are, until this week, we're winning more games than we're losing, at the moment, we're over five and five. I wouldn't like to get to a situation where, because of two bad results against two difficult teams coming up, we need to beat some in the Newcastle, because that's when, you know, the tension starts to creep in, but. But that is the way, and we've said it before on a pod, that part of these teams seem to have this pendulum kind of motion where they win some, they lose some, they tend to not draw in it with the only team left now that hasn't drawn the game, which, I mean, do we accept this is just the way it goes with the part you team? Yeah, if it carries on, they won't be unhappy, only you just have to look at Chelsea, they've lost the same amount of games as we have, but there's six points behind this because they've drawn games, so the part you always seem to have that positive attitude is much better to win, and then lose, then draw two, and then I'd love to confuse myself. No, that's true. I'll do the maths. That's maths. That is a thing. I think. Well, I'm glad we've proven that three is bigger than two. Yeah, how long is Swarley out for, is he? I don't know. I genuinely was very shocked when the team threw it out on Saturday, they did not know he was injured, so hopefully that came out again, that's another positive. And played very well. Yeah. Had one, I mean, had one, at that point in the game, he got one job to do, but did it very well? Swashbuckling, wasn't it? Very much so. Yeah. I thought it was quite fun to watch, actually. I do wonder if there's a pod you like to occasionally wildcard, I don't want to do it. Do you have nothing to start on? Sadly, we'll save that for the political part, three of you. A couple more points then. Part one, Hangerland, Be Brilliant for us recently, clang off the goal. We'll let him off for that. It's kind of one of those places, isn't it, that when your team is playing well, because of the manner at which he plays, which is this sort of slightly calm. A passing, passing the centre back. You kind of feel that he's great to watch, but as soon as it's a bit more backs to the wall, he does worry, doesn't he, because obviously with Delaney, Delaney, you're getting a diagonal left to right ball that's going 60 yards into the air and up to the centre floor. He knows where he needs to go, because he's told to do that, because he's told to do that. Yeah. I'm not passing, you know, casting aspersions either way, but you know that Damian, if he needs to get rid of the ball, will do so, is not scared to be a little bit more direct than Hanglan, whereas when you slightly undo it a little bit in terms of your form and in terms of how it changes time, Hanglan can start to look like a liability a bit quicker than Delaney can. I won't be surprised, just because we've had a couple of losses now. If Delaney's fit enough, I wouldn't be surprised to see him coming against me. Well, you were on the bench. Yeah. I do think Hanglan gets any blame for the Western performance or result, and I don't think after one error we should be getting on his back, he's been really good for us, but for all that Damian, when he was on the pod, tried to convince us that he was finding it hard to get back in. I think Delaney's always going to be first choice, and I think Hanglan knows that. That's what I think we all know what our first choice back four is, and we haven't been able to play that for quite some time. And the worry is that it might take some time for them to play themselves back into fitness, but I would expect Delaney to be, if he's fit to start, he'll probably start against City on Wednesday night at the thought, but I'd be amazed if he didn't start, if he's fit against United. But Hanglan, I think Leicester was one of those games, we were a bit worried about Hanglan before the West Ham game, because of the immobility, Leicester had the same sort of ability, but I seem to cope with it. Well, he reads it well. He reads it well. He's very experienced. He's a bad one mistake. He's a bad one mistake. Yeah, exactly. And to be honest, that's all it was. One mistake, and that was what, the difference between the two teams. God is a blister up in the world ever, so. Similar time last year, you know, Scott then makes a pretty similar error in some ways against Bintechate in the Villa game, that no one was calling him to immediately be hung from the roof of the home, though, or anything, so I don't think anyone should be. In fact, I don't think anyone has been about Hanglan, you know, he's been pretty good at the start of this season, so I'd be a little bit harsh to then go and cast the game too much. I suppose those fans of McCarthy and Gold say, "Okay, it gets different rules for Hanglan." Which is a fair point? No, it's not because it was against my opinion, but I mean... It is, yes, it is a fair point, because the coffee made three or four. In successive games, but again, Gold can set a four. I liked Orange yesterday. He made three or four in the same game. But it was astonishing. After Boris, they were just... Well, I'll see. I'll see. I'll see if he can get the highlights of his errors. One more thing then. What about Lassie? What's the deal with Lassie? Been... I think... I don't know. He's certainly out of form. I think you've got a couple of guys who have a major life-changing event recently, and I think anyone in that situation, no matter how professional they are, no matter how naturally talented they are, no matter what field they work in, it's going to have an effect. And... Well, I don't know. Well, precisely. And I think, you know, it can't be a complete coincidence that the two are correlated. I mean, he plays in and out of form all the time, but his demeanor doesn't look quite as sort of smiley and happy as it has done in the past. And I don't want to go into the level of speculating about something so personal, but you've got to cut the guy a bit of slack, I think, at the moment. And that's pretty much all that can be said about it. Well, though, ironically, the initial... The first game after the funeral, he was the West Brom game, he was very good. It's interesting, Balassie, because clearly, you know, everyone talks about managers having... Is either sort of played, put an arm around his shoulder or kick out the arse, and Balassie seems to be undroppable. It's like, Paju talks about it as a whole, all the time, he's either bigging him up or slagging him off, dropping him, picking him. Sacco, he talks about sometimes it's the best player ever, and sometimes I don't know what to do with him. Balassie, it seems to be untouchable. I mean, I don't know if that implies that he's always the sort of player that's got a fragile ego or fragile mentality, but I think it's old when other players have been dropped and rested that he hasn't. Would it work for him in the same way that it might work to cheer up a will for? I don't know, as I don't know him well enough, I don't know him at all. At the moment, I don't think he could argue he's justifying his place in the team, to be honest. I mean, it's hard to say that, because he's been a brilliant player for us, and he will be a brilliant player for us again. But when Pardio is known as somebody who's perfectly happy to change things around, it seems that not changing Yarlas sort of creates a log jam that the changes have to be made somewhere else. So we haven't seen how it would work with Sacco and Zhaar together, or how it would work with Punching, playing wide, or he's just, you can't really see why he's on the team at the moment. He has already, though, beat the season, and he'd been asked to play quite a few different positions out on the wide, up top, number 10, like he's been switched around again. And again, none of those front floor players have quite yet got the rhythm of playing the same. It's not just in this week. It's not just him, but Zhaar was in and out, Sacco was in and out of the team, Gae was in and out of the team, Bamford's more out than him, so it just seems odd that the one position that's not tried to change is that one, and a short Pardio has a reason for it. And much as I don't want him to go to Tottenham, if Tottenham was still willing to play 15-20 million for him in January, at the moment, he wouldn't be too broken-hearted if he went. It's a lot of money. It is a lot of money, it's very wisely said, but it's also possible that we may have seen the best again, I don't know. Possibly. Yeah, possibly. Okay. I hope he does. I mean, I really, I'm generally hope he's a flair player, and flair player players are in and out all the time, and as Streety said, he's a terrible trawler. But then the front, you could almost have been talking about any of the front floor players, they're all flair players who do suffer. But also, his agreement, his agreement would be, cynically, a really good excuse for him to say, have a rest, take the time off to do what you have to do with your family, then come back stronger, but he is a bit of a commander at the moment. We'll be interested to see then what happens in the next couple of weeks with that if he has dropped. I think I don't think he will. I don't think he hasn't dropped him yet. I don't see why he's going to stop dropping him now. Okay. Well, we'll see, and we're not in part two, but we'll see in the future. But anyway, it is now time for part two where we'll be listening, well, answering our listeners questions. Maybe that's your part for you. Is that a question? No, good answer. That one ever. No, good answer. Good question. Interesting. Answer the next one. I'll listen to those questions, so join us in a bit. Hello listeners, welcome back to the five-year plan podcast, part 154, sponsored by JCIS, the global and research brand consultancy from South London, visit JC-IS.com, and vector printing for all your print and embroidery needs. Go to vector.co.uk, and that's vector with her. Okay. I love the way he tries to put herself on the next one. From South London. I've got a mixed accent. Sometimes... You've got a posh cover. It's by posh. It's very posh. It goes in between the two. It's all... Yeah, it's voice count and down. I know. I know. Never a voice count. Never a voice count. Right. That's the most rugged thing you've ever said. I have to tell you, I was never a voice count. Yeah, our first question comes from Keith Roberts. Hi, Keith. He's put neither McCarthy or Hennessy. This is his opinion. Has made number one spot their own. Is it time to record yours? Bit harsh on the two keepers there? No, I'm not doing it. So, I think they're both at a very similar level, and I think Sparoni hasn't now played the first team match in when did he last play? End of last season. For the last game. Last game, last season. It's fun to see. Yeah. So, that spot, sort of, four or five months now. Long than that. Six months. Yeah. Yeah. I think the acid test for whether Sparoni is still involved is the league cup team against Mansey. Firstly, to see how seriously we take it, but I suspect Hennessy played cup games last season. It might be that, but I really think if neither Hennessy or McCarthy is doing well enough I don't think Hennessy has done anything particularly wrong. He's just not Julian, that's his problem, but I suspect that the answer would be a different keeper entirely. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Julian doesn't play for us in the league again, because I think he's had ample opportunity. He was fit when he dropped McCarthy, that would have been the time to put him back in. I'm still not sure about Hennessy, if I'm honest, I think he's starting position sometimes a little bit strange. He makes very bizarre decisions at times and his footwork's not great. I mean, there was two instances on Saturn, and I don't want to keep on going to his level of microanalysis on him, but people were doing it with McCarthy, so that seems like he's going to be sort of even handed, you do it with Hennessy as well. And there was the instance in the first half where he just completely loses the flight at the ball, he cuts in and hits the post and then doesn't react to the rebound either, which just seems to be the most bizarre. He's always looking like he was leaving it to go wide when it definitely wasn't. Well, yeah, quite. And in the second half of the goal, I mean, you can't blame the goal on him, it was clearly hanglan's error that's let Vardy in, he's an incredibly dangerous player, but you did kind of think when you see Vardy going through, if he hasn't rushed out in quite the manner that he hasn't allowed Dan at least the chance to try and get back on him and try and draw him a bit wide, which Dan maybe can do, it perhaps doesn't make it quite as easy for Vardy to score. I think he probably still would score. So I mean, if you're going to level any sort of criticisms at Hennessy for that performance, it'd probably be for those two things, arguably though, given the mistakes that McCarthy's made with some of his handling at times of season and given the fact that they've led to goals, you won't see anyone at this place, Hennessy, I think, at any time soon. Well, I think working on the basis that it's, as we said before, three out of the back, four out of the right, three, or the first choice you imagine is highly unlikely to disrupt it further by bringing the keeper who hasn't played for ten games this season. Well, then that'd be the most quintessentially part of things though, I think. That'd probably be the best you shake it up. Yeah, possibly. But, you know, maybe you could argue that if it was the back four that we would expect that you might bring to Vardy, but I don't, I just think we have to accept that. And let's be fair, we've been saying this for three years. We've been predicting Julius last season for quite some time, and I suspect that this is the final hurrah, but if it is, then he's gone out as a top-flight Premier League goalkeeper and... And the Palace legend? And the Palace legend. Well, I don't think he'll go anywhere, and I assume he's been made aware of what the plans are. Yeah, I mean, Hennessy's... I think with Julius, well, we forget that he had his moments when he wasn't brilliant. But when he was brilliant, he was kind of flamboyant, and he said, "I think Hennessy's a very competent Premier League goalkeeper, but he just looks like every other goalkeeper and Julius didn't base it in, but his problem is he's not Julian. Well, I think McCarthy's a fairly competent Premier League goalkeeper as well. I think the big problem with McCarthy and Hennessy was that we weren't told who was the first choice, basically. And they both suffered. McCarthy, especially, as we said before, suffered from basically coming in from cute yards reserves to replace a legend. And if Pardier said, "Look, deal with it, he's our keeper now," then you sort of suck it up and deal with it. But I think everyone was looking for him to make mistakes, and he's not Julian. Hennessy's the same, but I don't think Hennessy's a problem at all, to be perfectly honest. No, it's just bad luck for Charles, really. He's got two keepers like that. What's with the club? Well, it's bad luck. If they weren't, he'd be playing, surely. Well, no, he wouldn't. Is it's bad luck, or a manager that doesn't think he's good enough to play week in week out? Because if they did, he would be. Basically, I don't think you can say it's bad luck for Julian and they bought two replacement goalkeeper's in. That's a bit like I said, it'd be bad luck for you. But bad luck by the way, not Premier League football is going to happen to be a million better footballers in the UK than me. It's like you sit there again. It's really bad luck. They've got two better people to host the podcast. After they went out. After they went out and found two better people to host the podcast. It's not that lucky. It's an indication that he's clearly not one in Pardier's, basically. Okay. The next question, good question now. No. The next question is from Tim Harper. Hi Tim. As Bamford earned himself an opportunity to start, Palace was certainly livelier the second half when he came on. I think just by virtue of the dearth of options at the moment, he might have done just about enough. I think he worked hard enough when he came on and, as I say, he gave a little bit of a chaos factor, if you like, in terms of winning a few headers and getting himself involved in a few attacks. At the moment, would I pick him above Campbell? Yes. Would have picked him above Gail, probably, to be honest. I mean, I think Gail's had so many opportunities now to try and do that, sort of, starting on his own upfront thing. People seem to have written Bamford off on the basis of a couple of, Coca-Cola cup, Rumbellos cup, what do you want to call it, games? Milk cup. Milk cup, games. And by virtue of the fact that he's got a slightly ponzi haircut and comes from Chelsea. Could he do that job? Could he do the loan? Well, it seems like a bit of... I don't know. He seems to lack a bit of... I don't know, it's interesting. He seems to lack a bit of devil, and he's big, but with that being strong, but I suspect he might start on Saturday, simply because I don't think we're going to see a lot of the ball against United, and I think he obviously can hold the ball up in the way that Gail can't. I mean, again, we talk about Gail every time. He's clearly talented. He's clearly can score goals, but he's not a loan striker, and I think he will play with a loan striker from a little bit deeper, and Bamford probably can do that job more and can win three kicks and can hold it up and bring other people into play. But again, Pardu is very unpredictable, so you don't know. He might give Gail another chance, but I suspect, and I also do think it's interesting that it does come down to business that Chelsea have said if you don't play him, he's coming back, and I think we probably want to keep him. So I think he will certainly play a part on Saturday. I think given us lack of striking options, it'd be a bit foolish to let him go back to Chelsea, wouldn't it? When we need strikers, and he's not terrible, and on Saturday, when you did come on against Leicester, he did hold the ball up a bit, and he showed that he can do that, so it would be a bit chosen. All sorts of things that we've talked, again about this, we've talked about molassing. We've taken the wrong options in the box all the time, and that's because quite often there isn't that somebody in the box to aim for, and he will be an auction, he will be somebody who can get on the end across this, which we haven't really, haven't really had, so he does provide something different, and I think he will go back to Chelsea depending on whether or not we can fit, and whether or not we can afford to buy another striker and whether Charlie Austin wants to leave QPR in January. And the state of Shemak's hamstrings maybe, well, I just seems to, again, if we're waiting on him, again, much as I love Shemak, and I wouldn't criticize him, but if we're waiting on Shemak to come back, then there's something slightly wrong, because he's a genuinely top quality player, but there's nothing to indicate that he's suddenly going to start scoring goals, so he's not the answer either. Well, I think he's a different, he's a different number ten, he's a different option not to score goals basically. If you're looking at playing up topper at Anfield, you're not very good in that. The problem with Shemak is I'm not saying he's not a good player, I don't want to get rid of him, but what I'm saying is the experience doesn't indicate, as we're kind of with him, there's nothing to indicate that he's going to score goals, same in camera on your own, there's nothing to indicate that he was ever going to score goals. No, he didn't, he didn't, nor it were not for us, but Shemak's, and we can mark the answer to a lack of goals basically. Yeah, but is it an argument that the way we play, the man up top, yes, obviously you want them scoring goals, but is their job not also to bring in the midfield, we've got three players behind him who should be scoring goals, and it's not someone that should be linking up the play and bringing the, you were saying the previous players midfield aren't making those runs into the box more, but if you've got someone who's better at holding it up and the midfield aren't going to constantly play on the back foot, then let's have this discussion in five games time when we've had somebody play like that, but yeah, but I thought we can did show him, if you're going to play, that you can do that, yeah, I've just got this old fashion view that goalkeepers should stop goals and strive to score them basically, but I agree, but this is, you know, Andy Johnson the year, right, we've had, we've had, they were different era as a football team, but we, yeah, but yeah, but yeah, but we've had martial scores goals everywhere, scores goals, Kane scores goals, we can afford the acquirer though. No, no, but we also can't afford a striker that whose only job is to bring other players into play when they're not scoring. I agree, but I thought I did think during some of the Charlie Austin would be the guy that would do all of that, obviously we didn't get him, and there is, you know, it is about systems as well, but it's also about spending the money to get somebody to score 20 goals a season. Well, like you say, maybe we'll get to January and we'll, we'll have been, we'll have realised that we did need to spend that money, and then we'll be spent depending on what happened to the other guys. I think we didn't get extraordinary. Well, unless we couldn't suddenly score 10 goals or whatever. Well, I hope, yeah, I really hope he does, but there's enough, just nothing to indicate about his past Premier League experience to show that he will, that's what I'm saying, that's why I thought he was a strange boy in the first place, spent as much on him as we spent on goodbye, and it's just, I find out really odd. We're not sure, there must be a reason though that they, yeah, I'm sure there is. I think it comes back to what, what you said, JJ, you actually spoke some sense, which I'm quite confounded by. He's still very young, people talk about twice as a young striker, Connor Wickham's two years younger, you know, no one ever speaks because he's always been huge, he's been about forever, and he's got a bit, people speak about Connor Wickham as if he's 29, he's not very young still, and he's already showing glimpses that, you know, if you do plan in the number 9 role, he will bring other people into it, albeit that perhaps people are extrapolating a bit too much from just a couple of games this season, which he's been fit, but I do think that that front forward look more cohesive with him in it. He's not going to get you 20 goals in a season, but very few strikers will now be able to score 20 goals at Premier League level. But why can't you be something like Andy Carroll who can play that role of holding the ball up and bringing other players in, but also score goals? I think with Carroll, you admit you're going to go more direct than we like to play at the moment. Why can't we do that occasionally then? Well, I mean, we could, and West Ham have, and if he's working for them, it's an option. I mean, West Ham fans won't like to admit that, yeah, actually, they've actually gone back to big Sam tactics, and that's what they're going for. It's an option when everything else isn't working, and that's the option we don't seem to have. We don't have, but we don't seem to use it, but it's not like West Ham have reverted to Aladise tactics, because they clearly haven't, it's just that they last, if they wouldn't have won against us, if they didn't, you know, change their tactics to... Well, we don't seem to have many options out, no, that's the problem right now. Well, I still think, I don't think it's beyond the ruins of the possibility to ask for a striker if you can score goals and do all the stuff that you want him to do. Okay, good question now again there from Tim. Well, it wasn't because it started around when everyone's really upset now. There is, that's the whole point of the pod. I love it. The next question comes from Joe Podseadly. Hi, Joe. Is he got pod in his name? He's got his pod in his name. Yeah, perfect name for a pod. He's put poor form, it's coinciding with my return to the country. Should I go back to Barley? Yes. Okay, Joe, they've got... I feel arrogant enough to believe that it's down to you, Joe, then yes. Okay, it's not poor form, is it? We just lost two games on the spin. Yeah, it's, no, it's not, we haven't been playing badly, but anyway, Joe... I wasn't going to have a go at him for the superstition of thinking that all the results down to his sort of personal circumstances, but I am calling him out on that humble brag. Okay, fair enough. Well, Joe, safe trip. Why did you to be fair? I had Mrs. Day with Point out that I pretty much believe it's down to my routine. What happens? We've been all loose. What is your routine? I can't tell you. That's a good question. I'm sorry that you've come back just to see us coming to 7th in the Premier League. Joe, we would appreciate you going back to body. We wouldn't do whatever you want to do. He has got a genuine question on the back of that, which says, "With all the competition in midfield and the thread bear look of our back line at the moment," and we've had this one before. No, with Jim put Jed Knackett's head back. Is that what it is? Yeah, it should not put Jed Knackett's head back. Is that the question? Yeah. It worked appallingly when we tried it in the championship a couple of times. The guy has not played in that position barely in his career ever. Senteback is a position that just relies upon effectively reading of the game in instinct and things that are drummed into your head from a very early age, which is why I sent it back a peak far later than, say, sort of central midfielders or wingers or whatever. I just think it would be a recipe for absolute disaster, particularly when you've got Mary Appafit, Hangaland, Delaney, Dan. Yes, we've got a fit of Senteback's opponent. Why per Jed Knackett? Who's never played there in that position? It wouldn't make sense to me. If you're going to put Jed Knackett in the team anywhere, you make way for him in the sort of position in which he's the best. Yes, I think there's an argument about which two players sit in front of the Senteback's, but I think we've got enough options. Still, it's a very applicable place in the back if necessary. He's done that before, so. Didn't that think very much of one player, who is, it's obvious where he plays. Yeah, Adrian Knackett looks like a Senteback because he can head the ball world, but as Street says, it's a very different role. It's 30 years ago, he'd probably say, yeah, he's big, he's strong, he's tall, he's put in there because one of the Senteback's, his only job was to head the ball all the way. And the thing is, he does like running around smashing people, which he can't really do. Which he did on Saturday. It's great fun to watch, but you don't really want your Senteback running around smashing people the whole time. What about Jedi as a late last 10 minutes up front, smashing people up front in the front? I think there could be a place for that. Yeah, I wouldn't mind, funnily enough, I laughed at him, he said, why not try Jedi further forward in midfield, but I think there isn't, it works for Fellaini sometimes. Last 10 minutes I picked up. Just that kind of shock value, that kind of point on putting your weight about. Well, he did it with Hanglan very late against the best of them, where he went, gone better, got there. People had gone. It's encouraging to see that Jedi clearly does seem to be part of, part of his plans, because I think we all, well, predicted or worried that he wouldn't be here, or he wouldn't be in the squad even, so... Well, we tell ourselves, isn't it, that there's going to be games or situations where he and that we needed, and clearly that's proven to be the case. And obviously, it turns out we don't know more than we think we do. Next question is from Tom Flaherty. Hi Tom. He's put, do you think all our fears have come true, and the bubble has burst, and we've started on a downward towards relegation. Grin emoticon, winky emoticon. He's actually written grin emoticon, winky emoticon. Grin emoticon, I'm not sure you like, but until we get, no, of course not. When you look at teams like Sunderland, and Bournemouth, and Norwich, and see the combination of ineptitude, naivety, and just plain shite-ness, then no, we're not going to be in trouble this season. I think people probably have to realise that we're not a top five, top sixteen, because we're relying upon our best players being in ridiculously good form, and none of them being injured. Our second string aren't bad footballers, but they're probably lower mid-table, Premier League footballers rather than top-end Premier League footballers in the same way that when a punching falls out of form, it's not like having Sergio Aguero out of form, it's just, it's effectively like having a mediocre Premier League footballer on the very good one, like you usually this. But we're not going to be in any danger of going down. It's like Leicester at the moment, Leicester are doing very well, and fair play to them, because every single player in a squad is performing at 100%, and they can't do that for the rest of the season. The top four in Man City Arsenal can coast on 60% from all their players, where one of the teams you can't do that. I mean it was slightly worrying, it looked like Bournemouth Norwich, Watford were going to do better than I thought, but it's clear after 10 games, Sunderland and Newcastle aren't good-sized, they're not going to magically turn into good-sized, they're not, I don't think they're going to spend a lot of money in January, you're whether they're getting, they're in trouble, Bournemouth are becoming victims of their own open style of play, and the fact that their squad is not that deep and they're missing injuries at the end. Norwich struggled in Watford, surprised us all, and fair play to them, but we're better than a lot of teams in that division, we'll probably lose more than we would in the end, but we'll get players in the generate, and we're a club on an upward, thrust is the wrong word, isn't it, but- Well you could say thrust if you want. No, having said that, come back to me if we lose to Man United Liverpool, but- I don't think it's the end of all, I'll talk about that in part three, but I don't think it's the end of the world if you do that. Anyway, a couple more questions. This one's from R.D.H. Watercolor. Hello D. I don't think that's the real name. L.D.H. Would... I don't think it is. I think it's just R.D.H. Anyway, they say, they, he, she, whoever says, "Would you swap Kebai for Vardy?" No. No. Okay, good. Next question. No, Vardy. Yeah, Vardy's having a golden spell at the moment, but we put him in the England team. He doesn't do that well, and Lester haven't played brilliant teams recently, apart from us. He's a fast player on a hot streak. He's on a hot streak, big time. Yeah. All his knots are just there. Take Rudy away from England and put him in his just... No, but we had Mario on a hot streak last season. Yeah, yeah. Last question then, from Rob Goodwin. Hi, Rob. He's put Man City west from West Ham at home, spurs Watford and Lestra away. Six points, a reasonable haul. I expected eight. Well, that's a lawyer's question, isn't it? Well, that's asked a lawyer. We've got seven. Well, well, are you expected that? It's six, it's six, a reasonable... I would have expected more than zero points from the two games against West Ham, and Lester, to be honest. I mean, you would have hoped for, at worst, probably a couple of draws there. Yeah. But as we said, Pardu is sort of a shit or bust kind of guy by the looks of it from this season. So it seems inevitable that we're either going to win or lose trying. But remember what Delaney said to us on the pod about, they broke it into six. So this is the second, four games in the second six, we won two and lost two. And we said, I mean, again, and then also we got two games to go, and obviously we'll talk about in part three. So this is the Palace team that can still pull results out of the bag from any game. Yeah. Really. Good. Okay. Well, I think that's fair. I mean, the question's interesting because it does indicate what we talked about. The expectations have been raised remarkably this season, which is good. No, not really. Because we've only really added Kebai. I know we've added other players, but Kebai's the one marquee side. I think it's slightly optimistic. I think we would have happily settled for this at the start of the season. Oh, definitely. Definitely. And we had a really good second part of the season. But a lot of the players were the same players were a very bad first part of the season. So it was still very much a work in progress. Yeah. And most Palace fans this season will still take 10th to 12th to 13th. It would take survival in a mid-table. Obviously it wouldn't be. There's no one that's going to be disappointed that we haven't finished 8th and 9th of broken into top 7. Really is it? I think someone's not read the internet recently. Some younger new fans will be. Yeah. It would be a shame after the good start if we, you know, it'd be lovely to head through the top 10 finish. Top half finish. That'd be great. And the grand scheme of things and a bigger picture. Yeah. Progress, isn't it? Of course it is. Third season to Premier League, it's never happened before. Exactly. Good. I don't like it. It's horrible. Would you just wait for it to stop? Oh, no. Right. Before that negativity boils over, we're going to end the questions there. Listeners, thank you very much for your questions. In part three, we're looking forward to all playing both Manchester teams. Man City and Maynite in one week. So we'll talk about those games in a bit. So join us for a soon. Hello listeners. Welcome back to the 5E Plan Podcast. Two, pod 154 sponsored by Vector Printing for all your print and embroidery needs. Go to vector.co.uk. And that's Vector Wither. Okay. Okay. And JCIS, the Global Research and Brand Consultancy from South London. Visit JC-IS.com and try to do that in the most neutral accent possible there. We just can't pace those in this time. Nope. We are contractually obliged to do them. So two games come on this week. I will show you later. Me. We've got... He's got tattoos all his back. He's got a polished tattoo. He's got that tattoo all his back. We haven't got a vector. Oh, you brought it up again. You guys wanted to do a quick part three. We've got time to go into the tattoo thing. Although I did meet the guy Brad who constantly used to tweet us about it in the pub on Saturday and he was asking again where the tattoos are. So that's for another pod, another day, because Palace have got Man City on Wednesday night. Ooh. In the cup and then Man United at the weekend in the league. Man City game. We've got a question from Dominico de Prospo. That's a good night. I don't know. Who says, "If we've got no injuries versus City, who would you want to see up front? Gail Campbell or Bamford?" So, and I guess from that, what sort of team are we expecting? I think he'll do his usual cupping and bringing in a few secondary ones, but he knows that realistically all bit that Man City will play more as a second string. Their second string's probably still good enough to qualify for the Champions League, so you don't want to take an absolute pace. Did you say that if I could just interject? I did do an interview with a city fan for Palace Fan TV, Seamus Plug, and he was saying they expect him to play a fairly strong team. Pally Greenie, because he's been told each season you've got to win a trophy. Doesn't actually matter which one it is. So, they think they might go for it. I'll be interested to see the relative priority of each club, because certainly, again, Damian on the podcast said that they were targeting the League Cup. It's a kind of no-lose situation for Pally Greenie, because if we do go out the League Cup to Man City, no one would be that disappointed. Also, it's a sort of game that Palace have come to us, good results from. In the past, it'll be, "I can't imagine that Pally Greenie would play a real first team." Then, again, as you say, his second team is good enough to win the most tournaments. I think Pally Greenie will play a fairly strong team, but maybe with one or two wild cards. Yeah, I think he will too. I think he's going to try and go for it. Unfortunately, right now, we've got a few intruders. It means that that bigger squad will be great for having a cup run. It's slightly decimated a little bit, but I still think we've got the ability to win. I think it's got all the elements for the decent Palace. You know, a big pitch. Man City fans will get a bit cross if they've got five meal after 20 minutes. I'd like to see us go for it. Basically, working on the basis, I don't think any Palace fan would be that disappointed as we got knocked out. Also, last League Cup tie relating Manchester. Yeah, 2011. El Trefford. And Darren Emmeray from 100 Yards. That was, you know, good omen for us. I want to go back to that last comment. Yeah. So he's inferred from the fact that you've got to win a trophy this season, that he's not going to go. Oh, right. Well, we're in pretty good position in Premier League. The only real genuine challenger to us at the moment is probably Arsenal. And we've got pretty good in most games. And we've now got to win two Champions League matches, effectively, to go through. But lads, we have got the Carling One Cup, or whatever it's called these days. Let's prioritize that one. Of course, he's going to play more of this essentially. The Carling One Cup? Yeah, but call it weather. The Rumbellos Milk Cup. But there's no way that Pellegrini is not going to drop a few players. I think there'll be some big... I think there'll be Jai Otore. That kind of... There'll be some big names in there, I think. He's got a big enough squad that he can still do that. But he can't play Tory for an hour in there. I think it'll be vastly changed that team from the one that played on Sunday. For example, you know, there's no way that... I wouldn't have thought Jai Halt would be playing, for example. They won't play Jai Otore. I wouldn't have thought. I think they'll drop a lot of their genuine first choice. Yeah, I don't think they won't play a company. I mean, cut your company, yeah. Kooto's injury, I think. Probably not. Well, it played on Sunday, yesterday. But I don't think... I'd be amazed if he played anything like a proper full strip side. Well, hopefully he won't. But let's see what happens. But anyway, we've then got Maynite at home on Saturday. And what are we expecting from that? Because Maynite at the moment, keeping clean sheets, they're quite tough to beat. They're not scoring as many, but they're not letting that many in. It's going to be another tough one for Palace. I think it isn't scoring many goals. Play against Neil. Last season. Unlucky with the goal. I don't think it should have been allowed to stand. Oh, I don't take a point. I can't see a point. I don't see it being Neil Neil. I think it will be maybe a more old-fashioned last two seasons, Palace type game. Working on the basis that we haven't really got the ammunition to hurt them. So we might try and sit deep. Again, without a hole. He's not going home. I don't think he'd be unhappy with a point away from home at Sellers Park either. We have to beat Manu eventually. We've done it. Well, no. We went a long time before we beat Chelsea Man City. We've done that last four Manu and X. But it's just really exciting. It's just for all the people who know about the Premier League, to see players try and stagger, and Roonie come to Palace. It's brilliant. But I think the other thing to remember is that last season, their back four was pretty ropey. Their back four was not much better. I think you can get it smaller. You can get it at Jones. I don't think we should be scared of them. I don't think we're going to go dumb-ho against them. It's nice to have big teams like that coming down to Sellhurst and knowing they've got to give it a good game and dig in. They play quite a slow and staid at times game now. The worry that I would have is if we tried to- You can call it boring. They're all boring at the moment. They're all really incredibly boring team under that now, and they have been the entire time. They're doing quite well now in terms of results, and they become a lot more professional. There's some good quality in individual positions in that team. And Marcel does look like he's the real deal. But other than that, we talk about shines though. He's not a 31. He's not played that he was when he was a four-year-old. I know, but you still see him in Sellhurst part now. Yeah, yeah. Walk up winner. Yeah. He would have imagined that five years ago. He'd seen players of his quality. They'd make it even better if we could beat them when they have got- It is a sort of game that- I'd be more worried if people are lingo playing. They say they played like younger players. I suspect he probably will feature. The other worry is who the referee is as well, because Rooney, I've got a lot of time for Rooney. I think he's a really good player. But if you've got a referee that lets you boss the game. Do we know the referee? Yeah. If they get the three kicks in and around the box, because he has that charisma about him that referees do tend to listen to him in a way that we probably haven't got anyone yet that could do that. I don't know who the referee is. Unfortunately, I probably should have researched that before the pod. Well, as long as it's not Cloudberg, which you probably won't be, if it's John Moss, we're laughing. I'm going to tell you if it's John Moss. I got a question then from one of our listeners. Peter Hostachny. Hi, Peter. Great name. He's put three upcoming Nothing to Lose matches. City may not eat Liverpool next week. What do we expect from them? Are they? Is it fair to call them Nothing to Lose matches? We've beaten Liverpool enough recently. Yeah. Well, enough for this been months. So that's probably not true. But I don't see why we can't beat them. I don't see why we can't beat them. I don't see why we can't beat them. - No, we... - No, we did, we did, we did, we did. - Oh, we did, we did, we did, we did, we did, we did. - We did next free kicking of them. - Yeah. - So, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't see why we can't go up to Anfield. And they've not looked brilliantly, brilliant, even, sorry, recently, I think, even on Sunday, they're matching against Southampton, it's fairly poor, and it's going to take Klopp a little while to get them to play this sort of high, fast-paced press that he wants. - Well, he's not a miracle worker, he's going to take him 'til he gets new players in, because without this techian storage, I think Liverpool's a game of less to fear. - But I... What did he say, nothing to lose? - What do you expect from them? He then got a little caveat. How many goals can we score in these three games? - I just want the goal, like, I can play, I just would really like a goal. I wasn't at the West Brom game, unfortunately, 'cause I was away for the weekend. So I've not seen a golf mode from players since, I don't know, the Villa game. The Villa game was probably the last time so it was only just over play, only it was a corner that got played back, so it was technically over play, but it wasn't. - Well, yeah. - I'd like to see more threat from, actually, the other side of that, I'd like to see more threat from the football situations because we've gone, we've since we've lost a little bit of-- - We've started the season, quite strongly, yeah. - I'd like to see a bit more from championship player, Bachery Sacco as well. - Thank you, just tempting favor by saying that, 'cause it worked last time, I mean, it's been-- - Well, yeah, yeah, but since then, he's actually looked like a genuine championship player, so hopefully we'll get someone from him, so. - Okay, fine, I was going to ask you for predictions for my United game, but I know you had me asking that, so. - Yeah, I just think we should be really excited that we're our next two games or against Monday night at Liverpool, basically, but I think we should probably remember where we were three or four seasons ago. - But also, this team is capable of-- - Yeah, yeah. - Pilling or is that well? - Yeah, and then also, we should bear in mind that our next two games off to the home against some of the Newcastle women. - Two winnable games. - Two winnable games. - Two winnable games. - After an international break as well. - So, well, obviously, the home form is getting to be really important. I mean, I think it would give everybody a lift if we could get. - But we have had some very tricky games at home. - We have, and we've got another one coming up, but still, you know, we're seven for the Premier League, and the team at seven for the Premier League should think they've got a really good chance against, you know, who are second third, whatever. - Second now, I think, yeah. - Not that many points ahead of us. - Yeah. - Despite how much more their score is worth. - True. - Good. Okay, I think that wraps up hold 154 right there. So, chaps, thanks for being here. - Well, obviously, yeah, it's true. - Yeah. - Anyway. - I know I know I've basically got a right of a tenon 'cause I'm here so much. So, thanks that, Kept. - Good, listen, thank you very much. - Thanks for coming back from work early to be here. That's what you were meant to say. - Thanks. - Thank you for rushing the home. - Thank you. - Thank you. - We really appreciate it. - Good. 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