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The big talking point was the white gale's red card just before half time. The right decision or harsh on the Palace striking. I know Mark Clayton, though, is a good referee because I've seen him out of a Premier League grounds being a good referee, but it's clearly got a problem. I saw this part. I don't know if he gets lost. I don't know if it's because he's from Newcastle and part. I don't know. He's somebody should have said to do outgale or never Palace players, look. Clamberg's one of those refs. It always has a degree of difficulty to our games, so be on your metal. Maybe not get involved in a high-profile tussle with a goalkeeper every time he had the ball possibly well done and get independently, but maybe not stand in front of Kebai twice. Certainly don't do a really bad fail and certainly just before half time don't give Clamberg any excuse to send you off. To be honest, he was an accident way into up and somebody should have took him to one side. Gail wound up the whole game, he looked right from the start. You look like a head-author, really, isn't it? You know what? It's interesting. Where I'm sitting at the moment in the Oldstown is frustrating because it's quite low down. You don't get a sense of the pattern of the game developing, but you do get details and one of which Kebai knackered off right through the third start, partly because of the amount of work he had to do. The part that Gail was just, I don't know if it's somebody who said to Gail, this is your big chance, that he was putting effort in, which is fine, but it was just misjudged effort. At the time, I was really cross with Clamberg, but when you see it again, you think, well, yeah. It wasn't. I wasn't getting any choice. I don't know if you didn't have any choice. It's one of those. You can't afterwards, as a manager say, spoke the game. It's one of those where it could have been yellow-carded through encroaching twice because, frankly, they should have made him take that penalty the second time again because he was just as far in the penalty books. He wouldn't keep away from their goalkeeper, I mean, three or four times, he was on their goalkeeper tunnel. He just made himself high profile. He did that like Adrian was winding out of that. He was, but regardless of that, if he was, it worked, and the fact is that it was a nothing situation the minute to go to a half time, the bloke was dawdling on the ball, for some reason, they decided to press him and we had to be doing, and he gave Clamberg a really easy decision to make. I mean, when you see it, his foot comes down on top of him and, yeah, you could argue he should have maybe given him the benefit of the doubt, and if it had been only his first or second time, he probably would have done, but he'd made a nuisance himself all the way through, and it was just, yeah, that's where there's no point in apologizing. I'd go on Twitter and say, "Oh, I'm really sorry," because ultimately, you've cost us three points. It was frustratingly obvious that it was going to happen, to be honest, from almost the moment the game started, Gail looked out at sorts, and I think that thing about you saying he'd been told that this was his chance, he almost, he went on there thinking, "This is my chance, and I'm going to put myself about," and that's what it felt like. And I can understand this for straight, because there were times when, I mean, we played some really good football, there were little spells where we were just hoohing long balls up to him a couple of times, when people were looking up and trying to find him, and I know he could flick the ball, but he was clearly, you could see, if we could see he was frustrated, it's a bit annoying that the management team didn't see he was frustrated, and even, I'm not saying taking him off in the first off, it just get a word onto him, just get something calming down. It's one of those, yeah, Murray was sent off against West Amway from similar sort of thing, an attacker makes a tackle, he's just no need for it, that was the problem, it's pointless, the game was filtered out, I remember thinking, well, that first one was actually possibly bad enough for a red thing, but when I watched it back on goals on Sunday, he actually gets his foot on the ball, and his foot sort of rolls off the top of the ball into Piaet's ankle, so I mean, it's still a bit reckless, but arguably that could be deemed unlucky, couldn't it? Maybe yellow card, come on, if somebody did that, I should be annoyed if he didn't get a yellow card. Well, people will have a go about the inconsistency with the cock-land situation a few weeks back, but we're all spitting feathers, you know what I mean, and I just was there, so when cock-land wasn't sent off when he put in two or three similar challenges to that which girl put in for his second yellow, I don't really think anyone can have any complaint about it, I've seen some people debating the semantics of yellow card offenses today, and looking at the letter of the laws of the game and all that sort of stuff, but ultimately when it comes down to it, he caught him quite badly on the first challenge, albeit these rolled over the top of the ball, but that indicates of itself that he's probably out of control, and then the second one he catches him on top of his boot, and in either situation he's given the referee an easy decision to make, had it been for one of those sort of really innocuous tricks where you don't even mean to take the man, or the slightest pull of the shell or something like that, then yeah, you'd be getting really quiet annoyed as a fan about it, but I don't really see how you can complain too much. I think there is an argument we had about yellow cards, and the fact that you get the same punishment for a handball as you do for a fairly bad tack-off thing, that is an argument for another day, but you can see by clapping the body language, it basically sent you all got no choice, why did you do that, and the player kind of drew the rest attention to it catching on top of it, it was the cold light of day, that's what made me really cross, because initially you treat your reaction, you'll discuss it clearly, but when you look at it, you know, absolutely, you might have avoided that somehow. And he knew himself, it was a stupid challenge, he knew himself as soon as his reaction was just, it was just like a child who knew he'd done too much, and all the other players who wanted to do that, if I hide my face behind my shirt, nobody will know that, I'm a type of thing, you know, it was a little bit, you can't see me, so I've done anything wrong, yes, my wife Jill, you know, oh I feel sorry for him, no I don't feel sorry for him, guys an idiot for doing it, let's be honest, it's a professional footballer, but again somebody, there is that thing, somebody needs to take me to one in the heat at the moment, but it's just that's what, it's so, you forgive any player, if it's a last man who's doing everything in the heat at the moment, but it's just so quiet, there's nothing, there's no noise from the crowd at the time, the player, the ball, the referee was looking at his watch, it's just somebody who wanted to draw attention to the fact that he was putting the effort in, and it was just, it was just, it was, I mean there was always something wrong with them, I mean I think the main thing that stuck out for me was when, Kebai to that first penalty, and he just, what was he doing, well I didn't like he was using the same bolt, I mean what was he trying to, I mean what was he trying to achieve by that, I mean that's, well not only was he in front of, because initially because again, Clanton was one of those refs, I just don't like, I'm not prepared to give him the benefit to doubt, and of course he's a very good referee, he gets the best gains, but we have these irrational things, so my initial response was, oh it's just, he really doesn't want us to score, but then you go, oh no fair enough, he was in front of Kebai, let alone the round, and the second time he was in the box, again Clanton Berg must've gone, it would be all night if we keep going, but he could easily have given him a second yellow for, yeah he could, yeah he could, in, in, in, in, in tune again, in front of the other, the only consolation this week is I was really delighted at the end of the Scotland France game, it's, it's this whole rugby thing unravel, this whole respect for the referee nonsense, and they keep going on about when we're all shouting and screaming about it, it was a terrible decision, well I was in no TMO, so that was, that cheered me up a little bit in terms of referees, all this whole, they put their hands behind the backs and say, sir, you know it's been a bad week for, for Palace when you're taking your consolation, yeah, it was a Scotland rugby match out, well it was a, it was a, it was such a, it was a frustrating, I mean the thing I think we should bear in mind that West Ham's away record is astonishing, they were good West Ham, they were, they were, they were one of the best teams in the same team we've seen, I thought, I, I think they're as good as Man City were easily. I thought first half coming forward, Albeit I thought Sahar and Balassie just, again they just weren't in it defensively, that was, I felt really sorry for Kelly and Swarar, I thought Kelly actually did a really good job, as he was in the right front, Kelly defended really well, but if you're double teamed all the time, if you're sometimes two, three against one, what else, what can he do, because Balassie only intermittently came back and that meant a couple of times Kelly would win the ball here, Balassie was in space up the head, but same as Swarar is, it was the hardest switched off all the time defensively, all the time, and to the extent that we were discussing after half an hour, as we've talked on the pod before about Pargy making big decisions in the first half, Arkatees are hard being taken off, because he just, A, he wasn't influencing the game up front, and B, he just wasn't doing enough defensively, and, and the car for, and, and why were we getting swarmed all over as well, they were really good going forward West Ham, really good, I thought well for the okay going forward, he seemed to create a few chances, I mean he was out of muscle to look, because I was actually a bit surprised when he went off at half time, but I wasn't just for the strength, but also the decision making in the box as well again, it's just, they got us all out, the amount of times we get in the box, the amount of times we got in the box, in the first half, I'm just dribbled it rather than passing it, well, there was one with Gail, wasn't there where it came across, and he sort of spun and didn't know what to do, then it felt a punch, and he didn't really have the conviction, so, it was a very good strength first half, and it was end to end stuff, it was the excitement for the neutral, West Ham are a good team, we gave us good, if not better, you know, it's great, but you know, it's, it just comes back to that point, we're missing that centre forward, I mean, all, I mean putting Gail's, whatever aside, it's just something, there's something, when we get to that final third, when it's not going right, we just, there's something, there's a lack of creativity there, sometimes, I mean I know we've got blasting into Haru amazing, but he needs to be in the middle as well, I think he really showed it to me on Saturday. I think, I was, I still think we were right to steal Murray, but for the first time on Saturday, I didn't really have an argument for those Palace fans, I said afterwards, if Murray was able to play, he would have been a much better option, because that's the thing that Gail was really ineffective at what he was being asked to do, with that, did it how many times have we had this conversation on the pod about Gail, and I really like him, that means a really good player, but he's not suited to that lone striker always, just, it's just not, he's either plays off a centre forward, which no one does anymore, or he's got to be one of the front three, these, where does it kind of leave Gail then, because pod you's been very clear that Gail is the guy he wants to try out, with no recommend at the moment, so what do we do with him? I think, well I mean it depends how fit Wickham is basically, but I mean this is pod you's, he's got no choice now but to try other options, Bamford clearly isn't an option to the extent that Chelsea have asked for him back, if he's not getting the first team football, I don't know what we've done, I don't know what the answer is unless you post-circle up front, I think you probably end up seeing Campbell start the next few games, yeah well I don't think we're coming back any time, I mean he's really sick of, he's sort of experimented about hasn't he with Sacco and Balassie playing the role completely up top, so far this season, and for me, I mean I think we've looked fairly dysfunctional as a front four quite often this season, I think it's only been the dynamism at the base of the midfield that's made, it's probably a lot better, and no matter what combination we've been picking, it seems to be the only one we had Wickham up there that we've looked particularly fluid in that game against Chelsea, but even then you know you've taken a sample size of one match there, so I think the hope will probably be that if he plays Campbell Campbell will at least you know put in a higher level of work rate than at Bamford will, who just seems to be attitudinally all over the place from what we've seen so far, and other than those two, there's not really anyone else there in the absence of Gail being suspended, and Gail hasn't really proved himself there, you know much as, I like watching him when he gets on the ball he's got ability, you know he's not bad with his first touch, he can find a man occasionally, it's just the speed of thought and the ability to read the game a few sort of moves ahead, and you can quite often sit there be times where he won't actually anticipate where the ball is going to drop, when it does come to him, if he's you know in a bit of space he'll find the target, or he'll put it in, but he just, he doesn't have the ability to drop deep and then receive the ball off the player plan at number 10, he's just not all there as a Premier League striker, and I think part of the manner which he reacted on Saturday yet, it's partially you know sort of an eagerness to try and prove himself, it's also probably frustrating because he doesn't see much of the ball in Premier League matches, so. Well so ironically he's actually quite good in the air for his side, but there's no one else, there's no one, it's a couple of really good flutes he's run, but there's no one following him. Well shouldn't that be the wingers? Well it should be an ending on that. For all that, I mean it's clearly a problem, and that's one of the issues with decision making in the box is that the midfield centre too aren't piling forward as much as you'd like to see them do, so the options are a little bit limited, but having said that and for all the West Ham are really good, I think we probably would have won that game if we'd stuck with 11 men, we were as, I mean they were probably the best team I've seen at the Silas part this season, but we were as good as in nearly, and that was given the fact that we weren't, that's nowhere near as well as we played, and certainly what we didn't do, the West Brom game we played for the whole 90 minutes, we only played in fits and starts against West Ham, and that's partly down to them, but when we did play we were equally as good as they were, in most of the fifth, and so actually we were a solid, we almost went back and saw a few less bore a little bit, but we were a solid, it was hard to break down, and actually, and West Ham fans were hated at this, but it was only when they brought on Carroll and went direct, and went a bit more big Sam, but they actually got their second goal. And the thing is as well as one of the journeys pointed out, the difference between Carroll and game, Carroll's aggressive, but within the rules of the game he puts himself about, but he's sensible enough to know that he's a big lad to referee who's always been looking at him. I was a bit frustrated with the same note, because I felt we just sat back too early, too quickly, and we almost thought this is it, and we're not going to, with the amount of speed and the amount of creativity we do have, I just thought we should have tried a little bit to get up there, to try a little bit to get up there, but there's only one man down, only one man down, and I just felt we just thought, right, let's just write, we've only got two men, we're not going to move it, but if we know the players are used to that, they know they can go back to that defensive. I just thought we were, I just thought it's worked in the past, it was almost like that was it, there was not that chance of going on the break, it almost felt like we're not even going to try it, let's just try and sit back, and I could understand it, but obviously in the end we got caught out, and maybe, I don't know, I just felt a little bit, I just felt we could have tried a little bit, and once in a little bit, no, it was inevitable, but I felt we, I really do feel that we should have tried to go, tried to go out on a little bit in a second, I really do, I felt that quite early on they, they looked like they decided that one all would be a hero of a result, exactly, and I just had to be a really good result, and yes, it would have been, it would have been, but I just felt we could have been signing more cavalier, you know, we always get more maverick, a little bit more because Mr Parley keeps saying, I mean, even with 10 men, there was some skillful players on that pitch, that can, you know, the skillful player, Jason Punchin, again, a bit of an underwhelming performance, what's the deal with him at the moment? I would like to say what was still with him, because he's clearly one of our most talented footballers, and has proved himself time and time again since he's come here, but there's no doubt that he hasn't been up to the usual standard so far this season for me, or even for Palace, and you know, every time he's around you, he's great for me, and in some ways I think it's been one of the reasons why we've looked a little bit dysfunctional out front four, because he's not been operating at the same sort of level that he was last season, he's not been linking, you know, the two guys at the Basement Field and finding the wing as quite as readily as he was, and, you know, players do fall out of form, that it does happen, and maybe it's just one of those things that he needs to play himself, man, he only plays in the second half of season, he's starting long season quarter as well, didn't he? But he's still, having said that, he's still better than he was, he's told us, we're noticing it because he hasn't been so good recently, I think it's possibly because he's not top dog, because he's not the one making decisions, because Cabay is the one calling the game, whereas Punchin very much was the one making sort of creative decisions for most of the second half of the last season, I don't know, I mean, it's supposed to be quite a volatile emotional character, which is good as well as bad, but you'd need to ask, I'm only a public psychologist, really, I'm a very good public psychologist, but I mean, it's also quite, it's interesting because the system is slightly different, we're not quite playing with them. You know, you mentioned earlier on about Cabay looking tired after 20 minutes, and he would look tired in the second half as well, the international break, I mean, having these players, because he played for France, isn't he, the international break, so do you think that hadn't been faked on him? Well, no, I don't know, he did just seem a little bit, not out of sorts, because he's still a amazing player, but just, he seemed lacking in energy a little bit, I think. Well, as I said, the one good thing about where I'm sitting, you don't get the big picture, but you do see them close up, I mean, defensively, he really worked hard in the first half, he really worked hard, but the end of the first half he looked like he was struggling a little bit. He looked shattered to me. He did, he looked, he looked really tired, and he wasn't, you could see he wasn't. Which is why he obviously came off as well, I mean, he was winning the ball, he was making tackles, he was making interceptions, but he wasn't getting on the ball as he has done in the past, he wasn't having, that's partly because of the way West Ham played, and again, I think we should not beat ourselves up too much, because West Ham, away from home room, yeah, they beat the men's city, Arsenal and Liverpool. Yeah, and Palace and Phillips was clearly really delighted with it. John Clieger, how much did John Clie's was it? He was acting like John Clie's, he's legs, he's arms over, when I said John Clie's, I mean, Basil Folter, I'm exactly, he looked quite mad, I thought it was quite entertaining, but he was clearly over the moon with that. I didn't know that. Do you know what I was saying? Very funny. He was clearly over the moon with the result though. He couldn't have been the best result. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is a compliment to us, and it was good to see. It's not three points, and it was part of me that was pleased to see Victor Moses playing well. Yeah, but not score. Not score, yeah. But I mean, again, it's like the Man City game, or the Spurs game, it's a game where we've been, the second best team in the game, yet we've not been out of the game for large periods of it, still in it up until the end, like, I wouldn't say, it was like, I wouldn't say we were the second best team, I think. I thought we deserved more out of the man city, yeah, we did on Saturday. Yeah, OK. Maybe Spurs is a bit of a comparison. Yeah. We're still, this Palace team still stays in game, but we don't get, we don't get completely overrun, not transparent, we can do it, so that's still a positive. And we do have to put this all into context, you know, had I been on the pod just off the West Brom game when I'm sure we're all being effusive in our Fraser, the Palace, we're keeping on going. But lastly, for popping up with a goal, you know, a week later, we were probably about to slag off Balassie, for having a fairly anonymous game against the team where he probably needed to show up. And Saka came on and showed that his first touches, every inch of the man he's looking at, you know, a little bit short of, sort of, Matt Sharpness and everything. So, you know, we do have to be in context, and what's Tamara a very good side there? They will trouble the top six or seven this season. I'd hope people listening realise this is all in the context of, we are a good side. But that's the first time that we've looked exposed for a few weeks, and, you know, it's always easier doing a negative pod than it is doing a positive pod. Oh, don't you know what I'm loving this. You know, watch that one year, last week. But, you know, for the most part, there are things we did very well in that game. We did basically turn on one player's behaviour. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The still, in the cold, like the day the worrying thing is that the still the home form isn't, you know, it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be. It wouldn't be some tough. And that's true. And the encouraging thing is that we are picking up points against teams in the past we struggled against against the lower teams, which is, which I think we will carry on doing. And again, if we'd won that game to go sixth in the Premier League, we'd be over the moon and we'd be kind of nitpicking a little bit, because these are the glory days. But also, our analysis is relative to how pleasant are getting on and where they're doing, and where this team is progressing quickly, you know, and doing better than last season. But also, we are now nine games into the season, and traditionally people always say, right, nine or ten games, ten games for years when you go to the table, and that's when it starts to take shape. And we're even, whatever happens next week, we're still going to be in top half. Oh, yeah. We'll be better than we thought, aren't we? Yeah. Also, if you remember, Damien, when he was on the podcast, Damien, Irish fellow, Tattoos, Delaney, when he was taking, amusingly, taking Rob to task for being posh and Scottish, mainly it's him. But when he talked about Padre would broken the season down into blocks of six. So this is the second block of six, basically. So the last three games, we've won two and lost one. So that's right. Right. So I mean, so that's got to be, yeah, it's progress. Yeah. And we're already, if we're nine games in, we're nearly a quarter of the way through the season already. Is that right? My last right. Yeah. Yeah. The last is right. Yeah. Four plus. So that's thirty sixes. We're almost. Almost. And we're sixth in the table. Yeah. Yeah. It's a game of six halfs. Yeah. Apparently. Yeah. I think we all acknowledge that. The amount of relief. But there are, there are, we're not scoring enough goals for the amount of position we get up. Yeah. That's super fun. But then we need both thoughts. They didn't strike it, wasn't it? Yeah. For us. And here we are. Yeah. Like I did. It still is. Yeah. And Bamford still remains a slightly odd. I don't know. Well, an odd acquisition. I don't know. Well, it was an odd acquisition. When we got it, that's what we made. It was an odd acquisition. It was an odd acquisition. It was an odd acquisition. I think given that we will have paid a not in substantial lying fee to get him in from Chelsea. Yeah. And people going about the fact that we sort of recooped some money for Glen Murray. But why sell Glen Murray for a certain amount? If you're going to have to then spend a portion of that immediately to bring in. Yeah. Patrick Bamford, he was completely unproven at this level. Yeah. And it can't help Bamford that all the papers are reporting that Chelsea is going to take him back if he doesn't play more 13 football. And it's clearly a reason why he's not playing more 13 football because as we've seen in the past part, you're happy to give people chances and Bamford's not even getting the chance of that. Yeah. Well, especially if you're then if you're losing strikers and then Bellacian Sacco getting a chance of the head of you, you are a striker. Yeah. Yeah. Let's round off the part one. And any positives, as in any players' performances on Saturday, they're stuck out that you thought had particularly good games. Dan, I thought played well. Yeah. I thought both of them. I thought both of them started to play well. I think Hangland. Hangland is fast becoming a legend. Yeah. Because again, it's one of those games where we've talked about the West Brom game and the Watford game. And some people very, very negative, say, how well, you know, they played into his hands. Yeah. Big. These are all against big centre force. But West Ham had a very mobile strike force and I thought Hangland dealt with it really well. I thought both. I thought Kelly was really good to be perfectly. I thought, I don't think the back four can really, so I don't think the back four are the keeper. It's just we had a slight off day on the rest of the pitch, but still did all right. Yeah. But the first lot came from Wolf. No, he's tracking his man. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, there was a little 10 minutes spell when they had three or four crosses that went right across the front of the goal and he could have scored them. Two of those were given from Sahar not tracking, but he just gets bored when he goes. He tracks back to the halfway line and then suddenly sees Kelly the Eagles somewhere in the back of his standard. Yeah. Can we just have a quick mention to Ninja, who came on the second half? Mille. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Complete. He lost his man for the second goal. Well, he didn't look very fit to me, to be honest. It looked like he put a little bit of weight on and a few barbecues of the summer, mate. Yeah. But yeah. Ninja. Just saw a bunch of young Ninja. Great idea. Yeah. Great idea. But don't know why. I don't think he needed it. Don't think he needed it. Maybe around his beard, but not around his head. But yeah. So nice to see Ninja back after 20 minutes. And proof we've said it for a little bit. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. As and when. Okay. Let's wrap up our part one there then. In part two, we've got questions from our listeners. So join us in a bit. And I listened. Welcome back to the Five Year Pan podcast. Ready. Go to one, five, three, sponsored by JCIS, the global research and brand consultancy from south London. Visit JCIS.com and vector printing for all your print and embroidery needs. Go to vector.co.uk. Let's fake together. Okay. Okay. You switched it up again to me. Yes. You will mess with this. Okay. Okay. Our first question is from Darren D.C. Chandler. Hi Darren. Darren D.C. He says, if Fraser Campbell does the same thing as Gail on Saturday, does he get off as lightly as Gail? No, he's got set off. That's not Gail. I think he's with the Palace fans. I think he said quite a lot of criticism from Palace fans actually. He said a heck of a lot of criticism from around the people like that. Yeah. I would say 25% of people like Fraser Campbell and 75% think he's not a premier shooter. Ditto. You're talking about Gail getting criticism all along. I think he would Campbell. You said he's had a lot of criticism. Did you mean Campbell has had or Gail? Okay. That would have the same mount where he to be. He sent off. Yeah. I would say the criticism of Gail didn't start until people had actually seen it on TV. Most people were talking about the injustice. Yeah. Because from where I was it looked like in Justice. It looked harsh. But it's only when you see it again that you kind of have to reluctantly agree. I don't think everyone recognizes that Campbell and Gail are not instinctively Premier League players. I'm trying to find a nice way of looking at the game. He's like, okay. But then Murray wasn't evil to it instead. But Murray proved himself, didn't he? Yeah, he did. But I mean, Campbell's had even less chance to prove himself than... Did Marshall get sent off against West Hamlet? He did. Yes, he did. And there wasn't a going there of criticism for him. But I mean, I suppose he won it. He did score two goals. He did score two goals and we did win. And we did win. Well, Gail did earn the penalty on Sunday. He did. No, that's true. He definitely earned it. He definitely looked for it. And it was good. It was very good forward play. Well, it was very good forward play. Initially, I thought he'd dived. I don't think he'd dived. But I think he definitely went for the penalty. But respect to him because I thought it was a very good play. And it was a penalty. Yeah, yeah. It definitely was a penalty. But he made sure it was a penalty. That's when he showed up. Actually, I think we should have pointed that out. We didn't either. He did win the penalty. No, he definitely won it. Yeah. Which is maybe why he was so excited that he wanted to be part of the penalty. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe he thought he was taking it as well. But he announced the question. I think anybody who does what Gail did would get criticism. Really? I think so. Yeah. I'll do it. I think any of our players did that. However much you love them all, I think you just go... It was very mature, I thought. Well, Jules would do it because he was a goalkeeper. Well, less Jules had won the penalty. I think anybody, I just think why have you done that? Yeah. I mean, it may be slightly... It's also out of character this recently as well because we have been disciplined. It's been quite good recently. We haven't been... There were times under war not when there were a few rush challenges going. Yeah. Again, Murray getting sent off. West End was a classic example of Murray miscontrolled it. And then should have let it go. It was a classic example of getting a whole cracky. I made a mistake of it. Yeah. I need to look like I'm doing something. But Murray... Gail will never be as big a hero as Murray. Murray's a legend, so he wasn't going to get a critic size as much as Gail was. Okay. And that question is... That's a good question. It was a good question. From Mike Kooling. Hi Mike. So it's a good evening panel. What is it? No, it's evening. That's spooky. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, Mike. What is he watching? Because J.D. is sleeping during the day usually. What is it that makes palace strikers always over do it when playing West Ham? Oh, we just touched on Murray. Well, I don't know. Going a bit crazy. Give us a call. Five minutes, go Mike. Mike, Mike. Care about your question. The rest of us don't agree with that point. I think it's just coincidental. I think it's necessary. West End. Yeah, I'm also... Remember, somebody else made this point. Remember... Under Pulis, when we beat the 1-0, and Shemaq scored, it arguably one of the most dreary. It was a dreadful game in football between two teams that looked like they were going to struggle for the rest of the season. I mean, if you compare that from both sides point of view to the end, it takes a lot of use. Yeah, it was brilliant. So it was a really good game. Two teams that actually would want to go forward and want to play football. Although I arguably then show you that both teams needed that gritty sort of industrial type. Yeah, industrial type football for a period. You watched the match on Sunday, and Norwich, you tried to play a quite open, expansive game. You got absolutely smashed again. Yeah. And looked like they couldn't see the hat for just about any given moment this season, so... Yeah. So do you progress, but I guess we'll also show you that if you're going to consolidate in that league, you do need to play in a certain way, I suppose. Which we know the team can do. Yeah. Okay, this question... I'm just going to throw it out there. Oh, God. Um, Zee Row. Hi Zee. Hi Zee Row. Says... Has Gayle played his last game? Zee Row, Zee Row. Why? Is it... Is it... Are you going to say is Gayle played his last game? Yeah, I was halfway through the question. No, it's a ridiculous question. Um, just... We've only got two strikers. Come on, let's say he's a Campbell. No. He hasn't. No. I mean, we're... We're wicked to be fit and Chemac not to have half a hamstring between two legs. Then perhaps he might have played his last game for Palace, but... Right, it started his last game for a while. I suspect. Depending on... I suspect, depending on who we get in... If this question was asked in the middle of January, I might say yes. I mean, it depends who we get in in January, but I don't think... Pardew... Well, I don't... I mean, I guess... He likes him. Alan Pardew likes Gayle. He's also quite ruthless, he's part of you. You look at when Jen that was a little bit of a response to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely smashed psycho in the face. Yeah. And then how he reacted when he felt that earlier in the season, whether Riley O'Rourke made that McCarthy letting down a little bit with some of his performances. I don't think he'd... I don't think twice about... He'd never not bring him back ever again. I think we haven't seen much evidence of Pardew's roofless side, but I think he may think that Gayle's had an opportunity to prove himself and hasn't taken it. I wouldn't... I wouldn't be massively... It depends on who we get in. I wouldn't be massively surprised if he gets shipped out in January. Really? Yeah. Because I'd... He's a... It's a controversial day. We've had... He's one of those players we talk about. It's like Cameron Jerome. We talk about Gayle every single... Every single Pardew. And I do like him, but he just... We can't seem to... He's a square peg that we can't find a square hole to fit into. And the fact is that as each game goes on that he plays and he's not... It's all very awful Pardew, so if he'd scored those two chances against Watford, he'd be mad at him. He didn't. We're not creating enough chances to be able to have a strike as you don't take them when we get them is the problem. Also, it doesn't feel like you don't... When the ball's bouncing around the box or someone's going down the wing, you don't necessarily feel massively confident that... There's a time when Mario's going to run last season, he kind of felt like we were going to score every time we went forward. If you're at home, we'd call it every chance we had. But at the moment with Gayle, it doesn't really feel like that kind of edge is there, does it? The goal of Murray's goal for Bournemouth against Man City, which didn't come out of a lot, but it involved him holding off to defend his creative space for his own shot. Again, I'll go back to... I'm still thinking it's the right thing to do to sell him, but we haven't got to play without Wickham, who gives us that option, and Gayle certainly doesn't... And that's the question. I don't think it will be his last game, but... Well, now we've got ten games until the transfer window opens, and he's only ineligible now for one of them's side. You think that, as I say, unless something changes drastically with the two-engine strikers, then... He hasn't held himself without his... Obviously not. I don't think he says ridiculous a question. It's not. I think the question is more of a debate, it's not other than a genuine question, but anyway, in which case it works. It works. And I'm rethinking my initial shock and horror of the question. I'm now slightly backtracked, so now I'm thinking about it. Good. Thank you. Story of our life, actually. Things I shouldn't have thought of. We've got time for that. Oh, he's not. So, it's 24 years, right? It's also interesting that the... The Thera games Wickham plays for us, the better player, he seems to be becoming... He's not seeing it. He's not seeing it. I'm not even seeing it. I haven't even seen it in a pilot show yet. It's called "Parson Syndrome". It's an actual thing. It's a medical, medical condition. Aorthen, if you will. Okay. Thank you, Z. Rose. Z, Z, Z, Z. For that question. And the next one is from David Fraser. Hi, David. This is one for you guys. 'Cause it's... He says... He says... He says... Is Marrow and Schimag... Well, the list. Schimag. Is Schimag the new Kevin Mabot? Kevin Mabot. What does that mean? I'm not entirely sure. Kevin Mabot had really nice hair. But Schimag doesn't. He was Gary Mabot's lesser evil brother, obviously. I don't know what he's... Kevin Mabot didn't play as many games as he should have, 'cause he was out injured as often as he was in. Oh, man, no, no. That's the point. I can't remember the connection. That's all of them. I remember it. It stands out. It's a game against Chellen, in front of about 8,000 people, and a really muddy pitch, with all that stuck on the pitch. And he... He was... I... In that... He never quite... He was one of those players. It was a bit like that. He answered the one that Kevin Mabot in that. We were really pleased when we first got him. I mean, he never quite... Told him to all his potential. Told him to all his potential. So... Again, we keep forgetting Chellen, actually, 'cause for what? Keith Millen's told us, and what? David have only mentioned that the... It probably seems to really like Chellen, so if we can get him fit, he will... Yeah, but we've got... But when would you fit in? But again, where would you fit him in that? Would you play him as a... I can't understand... Like, we'll... Punch a little bit out of form. Maybe. Punch, and you could... Maybe then accommodate other wings, 'cause I think a few of the wingers haven't been in great form recently, either, and it would give him an opportunity to shine. It's like a different position. So, I think there'd be a place for him. It's just the... I think if you were gonna make a case for one of those drivers, perhaps not playing for Palace again, and albeit for reasons completely outside of his and the club's control, it would probably be Shammat, 'cause, you know, every time he comes back, it's very sort of 10 minutes at a time. Yeah. Well, they are looking, Keith, when they said that they're looking for... If there's an underlying reason for that hamstring that keeps going. But... Again, Shammat, he probably would have put pressure on... Was it without fouling him? 'Cause Shammat, when he's played, puts a lot of... puts a real shift in on... He does, yeah. And he's also a very, very clever footballer. Yeah, absolutely. There's a lot of clever here. We're giving people giving credit for. Yeah, he is. Um... Okay. The next question is from John Dodds. Hi, John. He says, "We have scored one goal in five games other than penalties." Good start. Anyone that's a good start. Anyone that we've got a problem there, he then goes on to add... Maybe Sully Kaikai is the answer after his loan. Well, you started so well with that question. Yeah. I was going to give you real credit for the analysis. But it's the solution that you found that it's probably not right. Well, it's a thing we talk about in every pod. It's a problem. You know, it's about having a centre forward. You know, you have all the skill and all the wondrous down the wings and the great midfield, but you need that chapel from, don't you? I mean, Kaikai is a Palace striker scoring goals. You want to see your players giving a chance, but you want to see them giving a chance, probably in league cup games or if they cup games, and you wouldn't want to... It's a lot of pressure on his shoulders as well. He's clearly got a lot of ability, so it's perhaps not as ridiculous as he does. And it's also my first facetious answer to say, but he's a lot fresher for him. There are two things to that in that. You know, we're getting in the box to win the penalties and they're not dives to the result of positive play. But it's not just the lack of a sort of focal point central striker. It's also the fact that, as we keep saying, the midfield don't get in the box enough. The decisions that the strikers are making are frustrating quite often. I suspect that we will probably wolf-spank somebody sooner or later, four or five, but at the moment, we are struggling to score goals, but we are still... We don't shoot them half the time. Yeah, and if we do, we tend to be... But that's... he's got a real... he really likes that cutting in on the wrong... and putting that right foot shot. Yeah. But we are still getting points. I mean, that's... again, I think we should have... Yeah. We're not nitpicking because this isn't an issue, but we're sips in the Premier League and we're still getting points and we are getting goals out of it from different sources. And we've got, apparently, taken that you can rely on and trust. And, you know, it just looks up really... It looks like a really, really, really good work in progress. It just needs a couple of extra things to make. Which is great. Which is great. Which is fine. We'd be happy if we were 12th, 13th for this stage of the season. Yeah. Look at the teams where above, or above, or above, or above, if it's in or above top. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's... we're having a really good season and it will continue. It still feels like... Yeah, it does. Yeah, it does. I think there's a lot of... There's a lot of progress. There's a lot of change to be made. There are things that can basically... We can see it for hours and then talking about it. And that's a good thing. You're boring, precisely, and it's all brilliant. Yeah, and it's a measure of our progress. Which it was out of the West, out of the West, out of the West Brom game. Yeah. And it's a measure of our progress at how frustrated we are. Yeah. I think we should constantly remind ourselves of... The distance we've travelled. Well, I think we do. I think we do. Okay. We keep pinching ourselves. Okay. One area we haven't talked about is goalkeepers. And Martin the Shepherd's dog. I'm Martin. Wow. What's his name? Give him this question. He's using a lot of your characters up already. Mm-hmm. Well, his name's Martin and his Twitter handle is the Shepherd's dog. Oh! It's thought I'd throw it in there. No, no, thanks. Yeah, I'm going to finally confuse him. He's got his colleague in, isn't it? Yeah. He's put... Having now seen Hennessy finally have to make a save. I want to see two clean cheats again. What? What? Not really. Not to do. Does he now deserve to be our number one? I've still got a big question mark. I've still got big question marks about the manner which he reacts sometimes in some of his footwear. There was a header in the first half that we spoke about, didn't we? He wasn't getting anywhere near me. That was second half. Second half, yeah. Second half, yeah. Second half, yeah. He does sometimes seem to react slowly, but he's not worse than any of the other two guys that are there. I don't think they're all fairly even level, to be perfectly honest. At the moment, he's the one who's got the share. And I now sound like a tabloid journalist who's coming in. That's why I clean shows you truisms. So I thank you very much. Well, I think the answer is, he is our number one, is the answer. He's not somebody I worry, but I'm not unhappy about that. I think he's a decent keeper. I know it's a bit of his claim from that cross that came just before they scored, which I think was heading to the far post for Carroll. It showed, you know, better handling than McCarthy has had time to see. Yeah. You know, until he makes a sort of howler of a mistake. And I've still got question marks about him as sort of an all-around goalkeeper. But until he makes a howler, the type that McCarthy probably needs. He has got a great back four in front of him. Yeah, he has. I think the circumstances of the last five minutes of Saturday's game were different defensively. And bear in mind, the defense is still short of two first-choice players. Yeah, yeah. He's also, again, only saw this on goals on Sunday, having not seen it during the game. But Lanxini's got all the second goal. Dan sort of goes to clearing, kicks it onto Lanxini's leg. Do you see that? Again, a bit, a bit unlucky. It's a bit cheap by, I thought, Kelly at the far post as well to be honest. He barged off a little bit. He's, I know Carroll is very big, very physical and great in the air. But Mike Kelly isn't small. And I felt he was kind of a little bit weak in how he challenged Carroll at the far post. But maybe that's just me. I think you have to bear in mind how difficult it is defending for 45 minutes when he's down to 10 men. Carroll was fresh and it needs just a handful for anybody. So, under normal circumstances, yeah, you would say that. But I think in giving it it's three minutes from the end of a really hard game. Yeah. I don't think there's an issue with any of the back four at the moment. Or players that are coming. And, yeah, Hennessy's probably not the best goalkeeper in the Premier League. But he's certainly not something to worry about. He's doing all right, isn't he? Yeah. I think we have to accept that Julian may get a run out in the league cup game or the FA Cup game. But we've probably seen the last of him as well. No more. We thought that. We did two other things. We actually thought that two of them has got three of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. Andy Sands. My idea. It says, "What was Adrian saying to goodbye before he took the penalty?" I see that. He was psyching him out. Well, that's he's... he was doing the whole first half, wasn't he? Yeah. You know, two... Downspooning? Yeah. Also, I didn't... not really. The referee was quite close to it, so he clearly heard what was going on. I was a bit annoyed by a noble patting game on the back of about ten years ago. I don't like noble. But when he got... I didn't like that. I didn't like that. But again, that's... Well, I think you were saying you've been our dumbbell, too, wasn't he? No, I think you're saying you feel free. Do you think so? No, I don't. But I don't know. It just looks... it looks patronizing. Which is unusual for my standpoint. That's true. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Well, I don't know what he said, too. Probably just trying to put him up. I believe what I did was probably telling him that he, too, was at the blind beggar that night. Yeah. There's a reference. Wow. Is that a gun for him? I'm here awake. I've been away for three weeks researching. How long have you been to see the craze film? Is that what? No, not yet. Oh, I see. No. I don't really intend to, either. So where's the blind beggar from? That much film. Is that a craze reference? Yeah, the blind beggar was... The blind beggar was the... What he's referring to is the path... The blind beggar was where Jack the Hatman. Viti, who was called Jack the Hatman Viti, because he wore a hat. And my bitty is... There's great nicknames in those days. Yeah, yeah. It's very clever than what I wanted to do. And everybody in the East End claims it's like the biggest pub in the East End, because 450,000 people claimed to have been in there that night. Don't forget West End won the World Cup as well. Of course it is. Well, we're not really in a position to otherwise nicknames when we had Dave Martin play for Palace, whose nickname was microwave Dave. That's true. Because he likes microwave meals. Yeah, yeah. And Dave the modern. Yeah, because... It's like modern things. Like modern things. Yeah. Well, like that one, that one as well, yeah. The next question is from Pete. Hi, Pete. Hi, Pete. He's put... When are we going to draw our first game in the league this season? We're not. We're just not going to do one. Probably Lester away. Yeah. I don't know. We're not... I don't know. We're not going to do one. Do we draw one game? I think I'll depart you ever in the league. Oh, do you have any team in the Premier League that's not drawing a game? I don't know. I don't think Man City have drawn a game. Oh, right. But I think it might just be Man City and Palace. I think Pargy has mentioned this before, that he rather... He wants to be positive. You could go through the season unbeaten and get 38 points if you draw your games. It's like... I quite like the fact that we... Cavalier? Yeah. Maffric. Maffric. I don't know. We've got... We've got... We've got... Show us a more positive intent than perhaps we've had in the past. Yeah. Okay. Although the intention in the second half on Saturday was clear. Yeah. And to Sunday's then, it looked like it was going to work because we protected that space in front of the bat before. We'd led the engine that pretty well to the extent that they were resorting to long shots. And it was only when they brought on Cowan's slung it to the bat pose that they were able to pick up something off the knockdowns. But, yeah, I mean, that was clearly Pargy's intention in that match. So, maybe we'll see it again. All we need is one of our players to be particularly responsible, get sent off quite early, and then we'll have to try and defend something and get a draw. Could happen. Okay. But it comes down to what sort of... Would you rather have a manager who goes in with the intention in winning it? Or do I have a pure list or... Or not could go in with every game we've not... Not what's losing. Yeah. We don't... I mean, we'd obviously rather have a part. I mean, we've had that haven't we? Yeah. And we've got a stick of that. I've never had my mum in charge and more not. Well, it's working as well. We've had this discussion after the West Brom game because, like, you know, pure list keeps you up and in these ambitions to keep you up again. Exactly. Yeah. Whereas we've got a manager now who wants to keep us up but keep us up better and to keep us up higher. Yeah. And then go get the England job. Yeah. That's great. Well, funny you should say that because the next question comes from Jack laws. Hi, Jack. Hi. And it says, "Am I the only one slightly concerned about how much Pardu has been talking about the England job recently?" Well, so, Samuel, do I say it's my favourite quote, release in Samuel, that I'd say. If I keep something up, I might be in line for the England job. Although he then came out with his usual... This time next year, Rodus will be me. Yeah, so, he will take him out of his... if I was called Samuel Adetio, I would have been offered the England job. He's only saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Pardu, Pardu, of course, he gets asked about it. Of course, he's going to talk about it. And he's... Of course he wants the England job. He'd be alive. He said he had hoped that any... Of course he wants it. I'd be annoyed if he said he didn't want it. Yeah. But he's not going to go until... Well, he's not going to go. It's not going to go. What? There's no other option to go because the top... you know, the best way in the world, Liverpool looking for a new manager wouldn't go for Pardu. They wouldn't answer it. He may not have asked nor Chelsea. So, the England job is next ambition, quite rightly so. But I just think he's put too many people's noses out of joint at the FA with his antics on the tux line. Which, again, is one of the reasons why I think he's much calmer on the tux line than he has been in the past. Yeah, he definitely is, isn't he? I think he's sort of learned his lesson and he wants to be a good boy. Well, I also think he wants to make a name for himself. I think he wants to become a legend. I think, all right. And he knows he's got the ground sort of spoil there. He knows he's got people who love him. And he knows he's off to a good start. You know, if England do terribly in the European Championship, so we get knocked out in the first round and, you know, then... and then people calling for audience head and he goes, then... And we do really well this season and end up in the top six or something like that. And maybe we can start worrying. I don't think we need to think of it right now. It is the only way that Palace players will get a deal in the squad. Yeah, that's just true. I think the FA have got it mapped out. I think it's self-grate or Neville or... Neville, I think, has been really... Yeah. Streamlined for him. Which one? Both dreamed. Both. Both dreamed. Both dreamed. Well, they both did. The next question is from Charles Bake. Hi, Charles. It says, "Do you envy Bamford's hair?" Phew. Tricky question, isn't it? Not really. It's a hair. You mean money? Yeah. Yeah. Little bit. He could speak a few languages, can't he? He can. He went to... Oh, did he not turn Yale down? Did he turn Yale down? Oh, it turned Harvard down to play for... to play professional football. Something like that. He could speak a lot of languages. He can say "hair" in a lot of different languages, which is what I'd like to be able to do. Maybe that's why he's not getting to the team, because she makes a lot of them in the wardrobe. Yeah. It's only room for one hair, isn't it? Yeah. I don't envy anybody. No, I do. Um, that's question is for... Oh, of course not. Oh, she asked for getting there. Matt Tasso. Oh, so we're getting the whole... Yes. That was a conflation that stays in Edinburgh. The next question is from Matt Tasso. Hi, Matt. Hi, Matt. He says, "Is Clamberg free to riff the next Robbie World Cup game?" Yeah, I think we've... I think it's a good question. I think we've... Oh, that's cool. We've covered both. Yeah, I should have asked earlier, probably. Apparently, because then I saw a sign in the Guardian today, he thought one of the reasons that we didn't get the sort of half... sort of half and half decisions from Clamberg. I mean, the 50/50 is not him wearing a scarf of some sort, but the 50/50 decisions were because we're... our fans decided to boo him on the sort of kick-off of the match, which I've found a bit of a strange piece of analysis. Yeah, very clever. No, he was booed. When is the first time I've ever... I've never known that. When his name was announced... now the beginning, just before he kicked off, he was booed. Wait, do they announce the referee's name before he got off? Yeah, yeah. They say the officials are... the fourth official is... Oh, I can't remember. These classrooms also have, like, fireworks going on behind us. He's the most famous referee in the country. Everybody knows Clamberg. He's a cheer-ins mate. He's a cheer-ins mate. Yeah. He is... of course he's not biased. It's as simple as that. He's not biased, but it just... it's one of those referees you perceive him to be... one of them doesn't like palaces. Whereas John Moss, for example, was the referee... I'm always really happy to see refereeing palaces, because he seems to always give us the benefit of the doubt. Yeah. You just seem to have to work really hard... to get decisions out of Clamberg at Cellar's Park. And it doesn't. Yeah, referee is actually human beings. He hears himself being booed. Yeah. But he'll pass off... because the fans are chatting Clamberg. It's not about you. And they always thought about you. And then, they'll pass off the game and say, "The fans are right about the ref today." Well, he should say that. He's got the fans really. I think it's a really good selection of younger referees coming up, actually, but Clamberg is like Mike Dean. Clamberg's got that kind of shoulders back. Look at me. I'm being really calm. I'm taking my time to do this sort of thing. Like, "You're right." He's with Wayne Woon. Is that kind of... that kind of feel. And there is... the fact is, it's like Graham Polieson. Graham Polieson made him mind. But it was a ego thing with him. Yeah, and it is with Clamberg. There is an element of that. It certainly is. Whereas younger referees coming through like Hank Lee Taylor, John Moss, seem to be more content to just referee the game and get on with it on Clamberg. I think Clamberg enjoys it a little bit. Of course he does. I genuinely think he does. It's too much, maybe. All right, the final question then for this week's pod is from Leema Bride. Hi, Leema. He's put as Wednesday is back to the future day. It is. It's October 21st, 2015. Oh, yeah. The year that Mike McFly traveled forward to from 1985 in the film. In the film. He gets his reference to the future. Just for Wishwood earlier. Yeah. Lovely. Lea says, "If you had a time machine, where would you go to in Palette's past or future? And what would you do? Would you change something? Tell someone something or just experience it? What would you do? Well, future's hard to do. Well, the future. In the future. Probably. The four of us would be flying to probably Madrid for the Champions League final in 2020. Yeah. And we'd be playing, I don't know, we'd be playing. Probably maybe Paris Saint-Germain. Yeah. And the fours will be going. We'd get first-class flights. Great hotel. Amazing me. I know. Four of us. The four of us here. The silly kai kai. He's starting out fighting Europe again. I told you speak. I told you. You have little faith. I was over a little girl. I remember seeing boys own being interviewed. I'll tell you when somebody, they asked them the time machine question. One of them said, "I'd use it to avoid traffic going on." Brilliant. That's a lack of ambition. No, no, no. I don't know. Maybe on a simple level, you'd go back to the start of the game and start it until the end. At the top, it'll count down a bit. Yeah. I think that's one of those. You know what? I'd go back in time and I'd make sure before the 1990 FA Cup final, the game before it went minor, I'd play. I'd say to whoever they were playing, "Can you break Mark Hughes's leg points?" Yeah, I'd use some of them. Mark Hughes's reference. Yeah. Because we were eight minutes winning the FA Cup, but Mark Hughes... Yeah. I think that's what most players had to do, wouldn't they? No, no, I'd go back before the replay and say, "Don't wear that stupid yellow and black shirt." Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. Or I'd go back to Malcolm Anderson and say, "Leave the clarin, loose drives alone." Yeah. Or I'd go back to the nest and say, "That's quite a good guy." (LAUGHTER) Basically, we could go on forever. Yeah. It's good to go on forever. 'Cause we could be your whole pod office. This is special. It's special. Yeah. I think it's special. Yeah. They won't be about the future date would have come and gone, wouldn't it? Probably not because you're still doing it. Yeah, true. Oh, no, you're playing. Oh, I don't know. Yeah. You're on another level now. Andy, what would you do? Probably go back to the championship because I miss it so much. Oh, God. It's a hard one. It's a hard one, mate. If you could go back to the day you met JD, what would you do? He'd really leave it all over again. 'Cause it was such a great day. Oh, look at them. Oh, I've got to taste them so great for him. Not for me. Right. Let's wrap up part two there. In part three, we're looking forward to part of his next game, which is a way at Leicester City. So, do you want us in a bit? Yeah. Hello listeners. Welcome back to the five-day plan podcast. Hey! Pod 43. Wow. We've got Manzley away next week. Right. I wouldn't be happier. Oh, do you? I think that an emerald just fit. I think that's a good way. I'm going to be able to park easily. I was going to be quiet. I barely know JD. I could still cast him. You got your wish from pod two. I did. Back in the championship. It was a good one. There is an anomaly in your time travel thing there in that Pod 43. It was way before me and Enders time. Was it? Yeah. If we had trouble back in the past, me and Enders would have avoided you. If we'd seen you coming towards us. I definitely would not be on this part. Yeah, thank you. Sounds like a great idea. No, I probably wouldn't have unlocked the door. The partner went and kept saying, "Please let me out." Fine. I would have said, "Do you know what songs you do in the future?" Don't do them. Well, to be fair, we're not doing them anymore. Sorry. No, you do. It's Pod 43. We've gone back in time. It's in the future. No, it's in the past. It's in the past. Yeah, we're in the past. We're in the past or we're in the future. Okay. Well, we're in the past, but we're still somehow sponsored by two of our sponsors from the future. I predict what we're sponsored by. We're in the past. Well, I'm not a JCIS. The non-global research band. They're currently just local. They're going to get global. They're going to get global. They're going to get global. I think they're going to do it really well. Yeah, they are. Really well, yeah. Good. Okay. So, Palace have actually got... Have we got Nestor Away? Yeah. Five years time. Why were we looking forward to the only five years time? Well, I think we should just be bold and we should listen to the... Nestor Away just sound like a championship game. It does. There's no way they'll have Ranieri as a manager. What are you talking about? Yeah. Well, I mean, you never get another job in football. No answer, you've got a sentence. By someone who's name, I can't remember. What's the situation? I mean, we've had a great start to season. We've had a great start to season. We're less to seem to be defying our lods, don't we? They're very well. They do really well, yeah. Yeah. With Ranieri, I think a lot of us thought... I thought it was a terrible decision. I was really pleased that they made that decision as I thought they would be one of the teams battling it out below us, but it's turned out really well. It's one that I really find it hard to predict what's going to happen on Saturday. The only thing's less than... I'm probably going to put the Kyber watch in this, but Nestor don't seem to have had two good halves in the game so far. They're a second half team on it. Yeah, they've chased, they've been... It's brilliant. They're coming back the second half, but they... I think, again, I think it'd be a game like Saturday's. I mean, really open game with two teams going for it. I don't know. I think Punchin would probably be... If Vardy's getting the England team, Punchin should be getting the England team. My Vardy has scored seven in... Seven or four? No, ten in ten now. It's scored ten in ten years. I mean, he is. Vardy, East bit of nuisance, isn't he? Yeah. He really is, yeah. Red 13. Red 13. Red 13. Red or black, Vardy? I mean, on the pitch, he's scored a lot of goals and he does make, you know, he doesn't stop running and he will give all Cinebacks quite a lot to think about on Saturday. Is it Saturday? On Saturday. Yeah. And you can't really give him too much time in the box because he's shown that he can actually finish as well. But I've been quite surprised that Maurice hasn't been getting in there team a bit more. It seems to be starting on the bench, though, which seems to be quite bizarre, given that he's been a massive bright spark. I mean, you kind of wonder whether or not they can sustain it over the course of the whole season because we should look throughout this one. There's some good footballers there, but you wouldn't say there's sort of a huge amount of exceptional ones. But maybe they just thought he was there, you know, and go. So they could probably say the same about us. I mean, Vardy's, uh, it's launched, uh, Cher Nonsgaard against Germany. It just, Vardy proves that through all the tactics and technical stuff, it's all about the Premier League. The long ball's really, really hard to defend sometime. And Vardy, you know, we talked about Gail extensively. Vardy just puts himself around the hole of the pitch, covers about four, making a nuisance of himself without getting booked. You know, there are ways to do it. And he's a sort of player you hate playing with somebody else, but he's loving your time. But just, you know, I think there's two teams that nobody expected to be in the top six, along with West Ham, which is a good thing for football. And I said, I find it really hard to predict what's going to happen. It's really hard. The only thing I want to have is not to lose. You know, the hate was to lose two games on the trompe. I don't want to see people's hate. And then we've got my United after that as well, which is going to be a tough game. It would be interesting to see what team he picks, because it was interesting as well that people were not moaning, but pointed out that it was, was it the first time he picked the same 11? It seems to be games running. Which said, along there was ringing for some people, which is odd. Because he does, but he does like to shake things up, and he does. No, he does, yeah. And there was, I think, I thought for the first 15, 20 minutes, was that there was a slight error of complacency about us. Really? Yeah, a little, just a little bit. Which, no, no, no, no, I haven't seen it at all, but just complacent, just maybe starting to believe their own publicity a little bit. Even though it was West Ham, are they... Yeah, I think so. I think so. But then, through which we get to West Ham, we said, we were sort of happy that there wasn't that, wasn't there? Yeah, very professional. Yeah, yeah. What would you guys do, obviously, there's no gate at all, because he's suspended, so what would you guys do in light of that situation? Who starts up top here? Campbell, for me. I think it's going to actually be Campbell. Wow. I've never thought it would be said that one. No, no, I do think I would be surprised with it a second. Bear binds, we're down to, aren't we, really? Yeah, the ball will come back to quickly off the surface, as well, I think. He's got power, he's got power. I don't think the ball will come back any quicker off the second than it would do off Campbell. It's been perfect, honestly. That means it depends on the sort of system we want to play. We can roll out Yannick, can't we? It doesn't work, does it? I don't think it works, but you know. That it might be, because he tried it. We didn't really play with any sort of central strike at all, did we just sort of rotate the front four? Yeah, it was quite effective in the first half. I don't know, I think the fact is that Lester are a very good side going forward, but obviously could see a lot of goals. Would you guys pick the rest of the team, keep the rest of it, as it is? Well, I think the others are doing well. I don't know, they're all titty-pressible from Yannick, so, you know, do you shake it up, but then what are your other options? Well, again, this is another conversation. Maybe our squad isn't as deep as we thought it was three or four weeks ago, but he's got a decision to make when Ward is back and fit. Yeah. I don't think the back four stays, it is. Keep all the stays, it is. Could buy in. The car for all the stays, it is. Punch up. I mean, punch has got to be in there, hasn't he? I would have thought so. I think black options. I think black options. Yeah. Well, unless he goes and stiffens the midfield again, it brings Ledley in for punch now. Yeah. Or maybe Ledley and McArthur and Kebai playing in front of them for once. Maybe. Yeah. Well, it would be interesting to see your partner. I think it would just go like this. One thing we do know is that Parge will go up there to win the game. Yeah. It won't go there to try and get a draw. So I'd like to think that he would keep Wilf and Yala in there because, you know, when they're on fire, they can tear anybody apart. You know, after the disappointments were Saturday, I'd like to think that this week in training, and I think they'll be up for it. I'd like to think they could just go there and turn Lester over. Big sign. Yeah. Big result. It'd be a great result. I suspect one of either Yala or Wilf won't start. I think you're probably right, but... I don't know who will play instead or how he'll do it, but I suspect that might be. Well, I think some of the people listen in, four-thousand. It's tricky to know, it's tricky to know in there. I exactly will definitely start somewhere on. Yeah. So I do. I think so too. I think we're possibly up front as well. But anyway, we will see what happens. Thank you for being on the plot. Folks. Thank you very much for being here. Thank you for inviting us. You're welcome. Really nice of you. Thank you. Listen, thank you for listening. I'll see you after the next week's game against Lester City. So, bye. 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Finally Palace are back after the international break but sadly it's a defeat at home to West Ham. Jim, James, Kevin and Andy are back to chat over Dwight Gayle's red card, look forward to the trip to Leicester and travel back in time.
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