A great win for Palace against West Brom so Jim, James and Kevin are back to look over the 2-0 win at Selhurst. They also preview the visit of West Ham.
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(upbeat music) - Hello listeners, welcome to the "Five Year Plan" podcast. - Hey. - Board 152 sponsored. - Wow, indeed, I know we're trying to run. - What? - Oh, I went on. - You and I, you were away. - Yeah. - What did you carry on with that, mate? - Yep, good fun. But not as good as when you were here. - No. - I wouldn't say I mean to you either. - True, very true. - Oh, okay, let's introduce those voices in. Kevin Day. - Hello there. - James Endicott. - Hello. - Welcome back to the pod, Kev. - Thank you very much, Kevin. - Kevin. - All right, all right. - I think this is the first time that Endicott and I have outnumbered you. - Yes, true. - No, I know Andy tonight. He was in Yorkshire. - He was in West Yorkshire, actually. - West Yorkshire. - Was it your part of the line in the country? - Yeah, my part of the line. - Okay, let's get our sponsors done. - Just take a walk. - We are sponsored by. - Here we go, wait me out when he's just telling me. - Okay, I'm getting better at it. 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Aided by a poor West Brom team, but what are performance from Palace? - Half-time yesterday, I had to go on a pitch to present some certificates to some very nice young people. And one of their dads had never been to football before, never been to Palace before, and he went, "Ah, she's brilliant, I'm so excited. "This is wonderful." And I just went, "Well, wait 'til five minutes "in the second half when West Brom's score "from early on, and then cling on for dear life." And I wish I could have found him at the end of the game because I get into the, partly because it was the early kickoff, and as we got back to the pub, all the other games were kicking off, but I can't remember, not each other, I can't remember being more content after a Palace win for a year, not just different to the excitement of staying up, but just getting back into the pub and just going, "We thoroughly deserve, we outplayed." And I know they're a poor team, and they were a poor yesterday, but that's partly because we made them look poor. We outplayed them, we outthought them, we outthought them as well, we just kept going, there was no panic, we just, and it was just, in fact, the only bone of contention was, the only thing we could think to argue about is, "I thought the punching had played well, "and my mates thought he'd just played quite well." (laughing) That was the only thing we could, but I just, there wasn't an area on the pitch, and I was just thinking about to all those times that throughout the years that we've convened back in the porcelain's house at some other pub, and just shaking their heads, going, "Oh, for the love of God." And it was an impartial interview, we said, "That's the first time for a long time "I've said to the players, "you were better than the fans for once." And the fans were brilliant, so he said so many times in the past, I've had to say the fans were great at the team, but he said, "There wasn't a week." And Hennessy just looks strong, the strength and depth, because Hangieland, I mean, I think a lot of us thought, especially after that League Cup game against Newcastle, a lot of us thought he wouldn't play for the first team, but he's just, I mean, to be fair, Westwell not Watford played into his hands a little bit, because it's like Damien still on that podcast, he's much on a play against a big centre. I've sent it forward, he's in front of you, but Hangiel, I thought, "Well, all of you, you can't fall in." And Hangieland, Cubai, and I'll probably owe everyone, because I've said on his podcast that I was excited about Cubai coming, but I thought the money could have been better spent elsewhere that we had options in that, but watch them yesterday, "My Christ, what are you playing?" - He was everywhere, wasn't he? - What? Just, it's not just the range of passing. I think, officially, he's got the more interceptions, anybody, he just has the ability to, but also be able to read and predict where he's got a little devil, he's got a devil, he's got a devil, isn't it amazing? - Oh yeah, yeah. - But I just fought him, I fought him, I fought punching, without being flash, I fought punching just constantly wanting to ball off him, constantly recycling the ball. The way, in the first half, especially, the way we moved the ball about, at pace, was just like, have we, with Cubai, I had a man in action for me yesterday, but have we dispelled the myth that we need? - Well, it's hard to, it's hard to keep, but I think Cubai, come on, talk about that. - Well, I will play it up a little bit. - Well, the observer had, in their team of today, had five Palace players, isn't it? - Five. - Wow. - Yeah, they met us based on stats. - Wow, were they? - The mirror one had three, and Zahar wasn't one of them. - Wow, really? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Anyway, he was both sent to the back, so it's Cubai, Zahar, and might have been molasses, I think. - Wow, I mean, just with Cubai, have we dispelled the myth that we need Cubai playing further forward? 'Cause actually, he's really reveling in this deep, deep role, yeah. - I really like him playing deep, 'cause I think he's got so much vision, and he reads the game so well, and he's passionate. That pass for the goal, was just, I mean, it was, you could just see it, I mean, it was almost in slow motion, can we over? - Well, we said there's a video on the internet, isn't there, where someone's filming it from behind a goal, and it is in slow motion, and it's absolutely amazing. - But the way he just looked up, and he just, without any effort, almost, just flowed it over, but he does that constantly all the way through the game. - But it was also, it was the least, when you look at it, 'cause we're, as right at the other end of the main stand. So it's hard, you couldn't see that, when you look at it, it was the least obvious cross, if you like, 'cause it was just full blast, you must be your site, it was the least obvious, but it's just, I was one of those people who said, Cubai should be playing further forward, and I was obviously, amazingly, it turns out, that Pajoo knows more about what he thought would not do, but 'cause just in that, 'cause he was, I mean, he was behind McCafford for so much of the game, and it's just, you know, for one of the better words, we talked about punching, trying to be, we couldn't think of another way of saying it, except for quarterback, but, it's almost what Cubai was like. And it doesn't, it doesn't actually, watching him yesterday, I would really like to see, on these wanky heat maps, whatever they are. 'Cause it doesn't look like he comes out of a sort of, either side of the halfway line. He seems to have a fairly limited range of operations, but within that, oh God, he's so effective, and just wants the ball all the time. - Do you think that he's on, the rest of the team has, and this might be a cliche, but play is better, he almost sort of brings the best out of the rest of the team. Is that fair to say? - I think the midfield definitely don't, without doubt, 'cause they just, and it's not that they want to be as good, they just see somebody playing that well, and it's just, it's the same old thing we say about football, it's all about confidence, isn't it? And when you've got something like that, with that amount of skill, that amount of vision around you, you do naturally raise your game, because you feel more comfortable in your position. - Well, and it's not just on the pit, I mean, it's like Damian Delaney said, he's like that in training, he trains really hard, he's like that in training, and he says you just, of course you learn from him, and of course, you make different runs, the players make different runs, knowing that they'll, he will find them. And also it's like Scott Downstead, he signed his contract because we bought, goodbye, that level of player that he wants to see, apparently, he's just, but yesterday was the first time all the way through, he just went, oh yeah, I'll get it now, he's definitely, he really is definitely worth that. - I think one of the things that really, I really enjoyed about yesterday, the game was, I think there'd have been moments in the past where you come up against a team, especially a team like purely to put out where they, as I say, parked the bus, and they was hard to get through. And at the end of the first half, I was very frustrated, and it was, as Kenny said, this game, to me, looked like, they could just get a goal, one-nil, West Brom, and then the park up again, and then it's one of those. But what we did, we just kept going, we kept going. When we came out in the second half, it was even more momentum. And once we got that nick, and it was just carried on and carried on and carried on, it was like, we're not gonna stop, we're not gonna stop, we're not gonna stop, and we never got frustrated, we never lost our rag, it was cool, it was measured, it was just, but it was constantly driving forward and driving forward. It was just exciting to watch it, and he thought, we're gonna get there, we're gonna, you knew we're gonna get there, actually. - Well, of course, also, what was interesting, Pargy's interview afterwards, and I think sometimes Pargy was a very clever manager, and he will use something that happened, and say, yeah, I made that happen. It's like, I remember doing a thing with a mind we'd have run, and somebody dropped something in the pub, and he went, I made them do that, and we all laughed at somebody else, went, oh, did you? - Yeah, right, yeah. - And I think sometimes, Pargy said, in the interview straight after the game, he said to the players at half time, it might be 70 minutes, might be 80 minutes, but he said, he watched the West Brom players go, and obviously they were exhausted at half time, he said, we'd run them ragged, and he said, they just couldn't keep running like that, and he said, that's exactly what happened, the concentration went once, and that was it, and the same independently, Zaha had, I was surprised West Brom didn't do more to change it, 'cause Zaha just had, I think, one piece, that he went past in 12, 13 times in the first half. - Chris Brung, Chris Brung, yeah. - And it's not rocky, so I just isolated Chris Brung, and you could see Brung getting more and more frustrated, and you could see, look, I mean, purely, they went through several options that none of them seem to work, and you think, well, surely, you must know we've got Zaha in the team, and clearly, whatever Pargy said to Zaha after the Watford game, and it was a clear penalty, he was no, but he just kept battering about it. It wasn't just the same, in the past, we've seen punishes, he was the same tactic, time and time, it's just, some of the angles of the passing, it's a lot of swari getting forward, and it's just like, it was just imaginative. - He's so great to watch. - Yes, but I think there's a couple of times, well, Blasi, I mean, still, my favourite moment was Blasi, when Rondon bounced off in. 'Cause you look at their team, they got some good players, it's first goal, first goal is they've conceded away from home, this season, Watford first game season, but it was just, if it was a criticism, if you'd be an ultra critical, it was in the first half, it was a couple of times when Blasi chose the shooting on the right, it was a couple of times when Wolf, but you just knew, 'cause it's so unlike Palace, you just knew it's gonna come, 'cause we've got the players to unlock it. - Very difficult when they're playing 10 men behind the board, it was pretty expensive. - It is, but we didn't get frustrated, and it's just the fact that the constant interplay of, if you include punching in the front four, as the most forward midfield, they're just constantly changing this. But the thing is, as well, that you kind of thought, well, all right, we'll bring second one. 'Cause, yeah, we've got other options. - Well, then we were just about to bring second one, until Blasi's got one. - Yeah, and even Gail, I mean, Gail, I thought it was really interesting that Pard you went out his way to praise Gail, all last week, you were saying, especially when he said, if he'd scored those, he would have been marrying the match, blah, blah. But even Gail, you wouldn't say he had a spectacular game, but some of the movement, some of the dragging was sent to the back, and it's just, it's just, I'm finding it hard to come to terms with this. - We've finally, we've finally had to come to terms with, it's like watching them, yeah, watching them make their kids yesterday, and we're just like, it's almost like, you want to put your arm around them and say, look, take your photograph of this, but you can't. - It's not always like this. - It's just like, we're just sort of sitting there with dreamy smiles on our faces. - Well, I had a really good conversation midway through the second, actually, I think we may be just after the first score with some guys that sit behind me, or in their, I reckon, in their sort of late 60s, and they've probably sat in the same seat for maybe 10 seasons. And then we're just like, we're just having a chat going, yeah, I think actually, it was just before we scored, we were going, we were getting a little bit frustrated, we got a break in the down, we got a break in the down, but then one of the guys said to go, but can you remember what it was like? - Yeah. - You remember what it was like? 'Cause this is unbelievable. You know, it was, and I know we often talk about it, and I think as Palace fans, we're quite realistic, it's quite good to take a little sort of step back and look at what we've actually achieved and where we are, and yesterday was just, hopefully it's not good with the pinnacle, but it's pretty high up there. - Well, I think it was, one of the things as well, it was like the mates, it was for 90 minutes. - Yes. - We've had good halves. - It was relentless. - We've had good spells, but it wasn't, and it's not just a thought, not just apart from Bredib, over ambitious, we were nearly getting caught, trying to play football. The defense was so sound, and it's actually- - Kevin, can I just say it wasn't how she does it, it was the first two minutes, I don't think we touched the ball, it was two minutes. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - The first two minutes, I was getting really angry, then obviously we got the ball. The first two minutes, we didn't touch the ball. So for 88 minutes. - 38 minutes. - 38 minutes. - Pied you out, quite a lot. - It's just that level of competence. It's not just that you have a good spell, but it's just that every person in the team knows, and it's a fact as well, Pied you clearly has got the whole squad player for them as well, because it's not, and you know that next to the next game, - Can I ask you a question? - You don't know about that. - You don't know about that. - It's a question though, Kevin. Can I ask a question? And to you, J.D., is it good that the international breaks come at this point? Because now, you know, everyone's going away. When you have a great performance like that, you want to get the team back in on Monday, and keep that going, and hopefully there'll be a game on maybe Wednesday or Thursday, or at least next Saturday, when you push it on it. I mean, I don't know, I'm just chucking it in there. - Can I answer that with old-style pessimist? - Yes, of course. - In answer to yes, it's brilliant, because we get two weeks, fourth, and not one week. (laughter) - You can have chance to enjoy it. - Yeah, okay, fair enough. - But, you know, and generally the other thing, it's really interesting, it reminds a Newcastle phone. He looked at the Newcastle team yesterday, and I don't know if it's the first time ever or the first time recently, but he was saying it, because not only was there nobody from Newcastle or the area in the team. There's no English players in the team. And Padua had hinted something like the player of the year to do about how the transfer policy wasn't his up there. But it's just, you look at our team, and not only have you got Will playing, you've got homegrown players, but we had two academy players last week at Watford on the bench. We had one yesterday. And the chances are, unless we're falling in luck, they're not gonna get on, and we won't need them, but it's just brilliant as a fan to see Academy kids there. And it's just, again, it gives you a lift, and it gives you hope for the future as well, because we can never forget that that's the sort of team we are, that we still want to have some local players who want to have our own kids. And I think looking at that Newcastle thing, you kind of think, they're all, of course, they're really good players, and of course they're committed, but it's just much rather have what we've got. And it is just one or two players. Yeah, of course. And even if they are just on the bench, at least it's got the something there. Well, you've obviously got Will for as well. Will, Will. Punch as well. Yeah, and punch. Unless you, no one else would take a chance at him, because he was considered a bit of, you know, if he'd training that as you'd want. You know, we got Damian Delaney's brilliant story, "Hangaland," who was a bit of a misfit. Yeah, he's got the hand we've got, and he's got nothing. Swar Ray, I mean, Swar Ray, I don't know what Swar Ray's like as a defender, because he hasn't really needed it. Doesn't he, doesn't he, doesn't he, doesn't he? Does he, doesn't he, doesn't he, doesn't he, doesn't he. He's a, he's a, he's an athlete though. He's an athlete though. He's an athlete. He's very rare with an athlete, you know what to say. He's another one, he's a defender, he's another one. Do you remember we spoke about this the first year in a premiership, after six or seven games, Jerome Thomas played a couple of games. And we said he's the only player who doesn't mind getting the ball under pressure, because he's the only one with proper Premier League experience. And now they're all like it. Yeah. 'Cause it was quite closest in the, in the main stand, down that left-hand side. Just some of the interplay between Balassie and Swar Ray and, and Nicole, when he goes, which is breathtaking, but that comes from the confidence. It does, yeah, of course, but we've defenders up there. But just, and Swar Ray, what? Gee, he's a real athlete. He's got a great cross in him, he's got a great cross. And that's one, again, being ultra critical yesterday. There are a couple of times when you think you'd like to see, again, this is where the cab eigen discussion comes in. There's a couple of times when you'd like to see midfield players breaking into the box. 'Cause there's a couple of times across his world. And then maybe a bigger striker. It won't come out a lot. Well, there's always, there's always, the Murray Moners have said. Well, if Murray had been here, blah, blah, blah, blah. But there's always that thing. There's a thing we, we always say about Palace. And I was saying it at a half time, it's just a shoot. Yeah, I mean, you do want to shoot a little bit more. Will, Will did have a few goals. And there was a couple of people around me molding those bad shots. But at least he just, at least he's having a goal. You know, yes, it was obvious, you know. And I just think that was, again, being also critical. I think we do like that. Sometimes it's maybe it's a bit confidence in front of goals sometimes. Just have a pop, just have a goal. Just go 'cause you never know what the keeper's gonna do or what might be a defender and bouncer. Well, there were a couple again, being ultra critical when it was one in particular, it came off the keeper. But there was no Palace mindset for it. It was, I think, and the transfer. You know, I'd be amazed if we didn't go back for Austin or somebody, again, I know it will start debate because a lot of people who say, well, Austin's just the younger version of Murray to an extent. Well, we can remember where we have to say. Well, we can, yeah, I mean, I will ask you everything we have to remember as well. She maxed around. Well, do you know what? 'Cause Delaney. Or is he? Well, no, he is. Delaney came to find out in his field the other night. And he said, he'd hinted this when he was on the podcast. He said, he said, I think if she max fit, he'll go straight in the team. Really? Yeah. And you can only assume it would be as historical. But he said, "Parge, we love she, Matt." He said, "But it's a massive if." But if somebody else pointed out on Saturday, we've, I know we lost the, what for games, the top of a man's city, and Tottenham was, the performance was disappointing. But I think this is the fifth game in a row now that we haven't had what you'd call our first choice. Yeah. Back floor. Yeah, that's true. The Dan and Delaney have been out. But also, I think, as like David said in the process, I think half of it he's gonna have a hard time. I mean, I'll presume if when wards fit, he'll put him straight back in for Kelly. But, hang on, it'll be hard done by if he's dropped down. Well, we were talking about this on the pod last week, when you were here about Hangland, how immense he's been, and how Delaney's gonna get back into that, so you. Well, it's not, I know everyone talked about the what for game being made for him, but there were times yesterday. And I think, we've had the discussion quite a lot on the pod, and Pargy's mentioned it a couple times, but the way we play at home depends the way we play away. Yesterday was the first time I've seen this on the front foot, apart from that terrible shock in two minutes, which is... It's off, it's a refund. I almost walked out. It's a refund, too 90% of their money for that. The amount of times, he nearly got caught once or two, but the amount of times when Hangland was carrying the ball forward. Oh yeah. Because he was nowhere near for him tomorrow. Back on Bower-esque, he was the Kaiser. It was the Kaiser. But he was carrying the ball forward, and then so we were on the front foot all the time. It wasn't just, it wasn't like Watford where it was just a defensive job, where he was just heading and everything in front of him. It was literally, and Dan was the same, and they were carrying the ball off. Often that stuff does come from the back first, because it's not lumping it. The mentality from that is to go forward directly. And Kelly, Kelly to his credit, I don't know, some fellas fans for some reason, and I don't know why. It seems to have him for Kelly a little bit, and I generally don't know. I generally can't see what Kelly's done, but the only thing is it's slightly more nut. He hasn't got as much confidence going forward as Swari has, but he was still going forward as much as... He doesn't seem to reach the heights of what the other players do. He hasn't quite got the height. He hasn't quite got the skill either, but he's very solid. It's not an actual fall, but I mean, the thing is... No, he's not actual fall. Fallback is the most... It's like Gary Neville's always banging on the back. It's fallback is the most changed position, though, because you've got to be the fittest player in the team for a start-off, because you're doing as much attacking. And Kelly, I can't see the point of having a go, Kelly. And Kelly's been a perfectly capable fallback, especially when he's, as we know, he's a cent about really playing fallback. He does get forward, but he tends to do a more simple thing. He's never going to be... It's not... He's not going to get beyond this. He looks very much like a player that knows his limits and plays with his limitations. Yeah, he gets so hard for that. He's not going to get beyond Zaha'i in a way that's sorry, he's beyond the lesser. So it's no point having to go at him because he's not as perfect as... I was a bit disappointed with some Palace fans for... I think it was a bit harsh, I think it was a bit harsh. Again, I think you have to find something to learn about. Well, you can't. And also, I think... And being generous to McCarthy, which I haven't done in the past, I think he probably would have kept clean sheets and been in gold yesterday, the last two games. But, again, that breeds confidence. And Hennessy just looked a little bit more assured. And I think one proper saviour had to make any... I think, yeah, I think it was only one. And I just think the two centre backs have seemed a bit more composed. So, would you say that Hennessy are on number one now? I don't know. It was interesting who's at the moment. It was interesting watching Julian interesting and a little bit sad in a way to see Julian in the stands yesterday. Because I think the answer to that question is that Julian isn't. Yes, yeah, yeah. Because I think one of the things I felt a little bit sorry for McCarthy for is that Pardew perhaps could have said who his number one goalkeeper was. Because I think McCarthy, football fans, being what they're like, suddenly saw this keeper being... It wasn't even a keeper, it was first choice keeper. But it suddenly looked like he'd been parachuting ahead of Julian and Wayne Hennessy, without... And there's no reason why Pardew should explain. But I think it might have helped if Pardew said he's my number one keeper, but I think you can only assume Hennessy is the first choice keeper. Oh, I thought so. Which I'm sure Chris Coleman will be delighted about. When have we had three very good golfers to come? Well, when have we had a squad with this depth in the past? I can't remember. Bearing in mind that I was one of those people who thought, the Kebai thing, I was one of those people who said no, which we'd want to send it back, not a fancy dynamic field player. Because I'd generally not withstanding handle as brilliant game against Swansea last day. I generally thought we needed better cover-ups than it was. But he's been... He's clearly enjoyed it. He's clearly really good at it. He's been the surprise that was the season for me. He really... I mean, he listened about the Pardew last season. Yeah. He's not into my heart here. He's been as big a surprise as... I'm sure Damien won't understand. He's been as big a surprise as Delaney has. Yeah, absolutely. I don't think any of us expected Delaney to... To be good enough for the Premier League. I didn't think Hangaland was. But the way Delaney was talking to us on the pod about him, and when Delaney came up, I got news for you. Richard Osman trying to be smart and clever, introduced himself to Delaney and said, "Oh, yeah, thank you for taking the worst centre back. "I've ever seen it full of their hands." And Delaney laid into him just when he's a brilliant centre back. But Damien was saying, in training, he said he's learnt so much from... He's not that much older than Hangaland. He said, "It's proper quality in the future." And Hangaland just looks like somebody who's really, really pleased. He looks confident. He looks confident. Also, he looks pleased with his last club. And he said, there's a brilliant interview with him. I think it was a standard when he's saying how privileged he feels that he's got this chance to extend his career at such a good club. And he's playing like somebody who's really enjoying himself. And it just seems that everything about the club at the moment is positive. And it's the opposite of a vicious circle or something. And it's conflict with breeding more. And it's just... It is just that... If I can offer us something to moan about, though... Just Andy Street, because you're not here. Well, we could do that, of course. Yeah, we could do it next hour. West Brom's tactics were obviously very defensive. But underputers, we were never that negative. Not everybody was saying to me, "We weren't this bad, we weren't like this." It's not just that, but where John Moss got two minutes from in the first half... I'm sure, because I know that we would have called it game manager. But I'm sure we didn't waste time or dive or moan, not to that extent. Because the keeper should have been sent off. He should have been booked after about 25 minutes. There's a time waste in this hour, shocking time waste in... Well, the old team. But also, but they looked... Because basically, they did a number on us, didn't they, back in March? Because they scored quite early on from a central, as I recall, sent about. I think Kelly... It was James Morrison. Yeah, but he wasn't picked up in the box. Punch and slips. And then it was just parking the bus. And they need to really good goal. And I'm sure Pewleys thought that they would come down and do it. But they're a lack of ambition. Because if you look at Rondon, he thinks he could play a better Hino. But he's playing better Hino out wide. He's like, "Why are you doing that? You're not tying up the centre, actually." And it seemed... So first time I've seen Pewleys look uncertain. And I think losing Johnny Evans was a big blow. But the tactics were... It was so negative. And there were so cynical as well. It was horrible cynical. And we had the real nasty edge to the point. But you know what, and again, we didn't rise to the bait. We didn't rise to the bait. Will did once for the second half of the day. Yes, we just, and Pargy took him off. Yeah, he was lucky too. But he then got up and won the penalty, which is how he needed to react to that. Yeah, Pargy didn't take him off, obviously. But Pargy, you could see Pargy talking to him. So how arguably he could have got off for... But the foul off the ball on Suarez thing, after about 15 minutes first half. When they thought he got booked. When Suarez put it up the line and he caught it really late. Oh, yes, right in front of the dugouts. And that was horrible. They were doing that all the way through. And you know, every time they went down, every time one of their players went down, he held his face. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Every single time. And by the time, when we played under Pewleys, at least, you know, in my head, there was some really good counter-attacking. Oh, and I actually thought we were a good symbolic player. We had, we had, we had, we had defence. They didn't really have, they didn't see that. We had options, didn't we? Well, they did, but they had Perahino playing wild. And one, because when Rondon came off, that idea was that, that big, huge, which again, was so fantastic, that bit where he bounced off. But lastly, because that's the other thing, you know, it's as well with us now, is A, skillful with B, because we, I remember the first year of the Premier League, it was a couple of times on the pod where we said, "Talked about it, whether it was the away team coming on looking, looking at the foot taller, and we're, and we're that now as well." Oh, yeah, just. It wilbs bulked out a bit, Swari, it's short, it must have been. The Atlantic is just so, so strong there, yeah. Cabay, as well, it's another one. I had no idea Cabay was that physical, you know, and the car for clearly, and they've all, and they've all got a little bit of devil about them as well, and not. Which you need. Which you need. Right, right. That's a really good point. And, you know, it's a, it will go over a few times, let's be honest, but, you know, I think you have to take it. I think it's, it's not, again, it comes back to that thing about being content. There aren't many times in the past when you could say Palace have occupied the moral high ground on the team. It's like the, the, the reporting you observe, just when you want to watch, you want to, you'd pay money to watch this team. You know, it says you wouldn't cross the road to watch West Brom. Yeah. But I think increasingly, I think we got attention under Pewley's, the first two seasons when Pewley's kept selling them. Not so much for a part of it, but there was a sort of patronising attention to, "Oh, well, I know a little Palace, well, that's good, haven't I?" But now I think people, the image of us now is, I think, different to any time, because even they talk about the right bright party team, you wouldn't really pay money to watch the neutrals. No, no, no. I think the 79 team, arguably, my memories are pretty hazy, they're all so grateful, but this is, I mean, I've never known a Palace team that's got, had so much good, the perception about the actual team and the football. When we're on the board, on the Pewleys, we talked about, we want to see the club progress. We're excited about the future and stuff, right? It's only a year, just over a year later, and we're here already. Yeah, yeah. Well, do you remember, in fact, do you remember Keith Millen wouldn't say it when the microphones were on? When he came on the pot, I think it's the first time he was on, and we'd beaten Villain One, Neil, I think, punching the squad. Yeah. And I jokingly said, "Well, we had 35% possession, it was a step in the right direction." And he said, "Pewleys went mad on the Monday at the plate," because anything over 30%, because he didn't want, he said, "Not even one touch football, he just moved the ball, he said, "Not hoof it, but just the ball goes into channels." Yeah, yeah. And yesterday, he would have been presumably delighted with West Brom, because there was a period where he had 74%, 75% possession, but the things he wasn't just knocking the ball about, it wasn't just holding the ball, it was possession with intent. Yeah, absolutely. It was really good. There's method for it. It was moving, the ball was circulating all the time. And now, one day, if Pardier said they were exhausted, because the way the ball went from left to right, and it was just, oh, it was, well, I was going to say, it's the content out there, it's silly smile, and of course, we'll pick the little thing, and the thing is, everyone was, it was nice, because people said, "Aftertime, can we do this, can we do this, can we do that?" It's just enjoying a moment. Yeah, absolutely. Just look at the league table. Just look at the league table and smile. And also, the other important thing, as well, is that I think, if we hadn't got anything out of yesterday, people would be entitled to ask questions about the home form, but yesterday was like, if that's the way we're going to approach games at home, that will change, that will make other teams change the way they're like, "Unless you want to do this." Anyway, I watched the match of the day, I watched this morning, actually, I watched the match of the day, and I think he was, do you mean, doing so much, you know? He was saying, "Well, the reason is why I pass doing so is because of their really good home form." Yeah, I thought that. No, no, no, no, no, no. Would you show that these people have got no idea what they're talking about? But also, I mean, now, on the face of it, now, it does look better, because the other thing, as well, is- Are we all near the way form, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. Because, obviously, yeah, it's just going to sound like amazing insight, but winning five losing three is much better than winning four losing four. Isn't it? Isn't it? That's amazing. That's the sort of top level pondering they play the very small bats for. But the things that we don't, you know, Pardu seems to have this attitude, rather win, win one than draw three, which is great to watch, but also, you know, I've already said I was brilliant, because we'd be in Chelsea, and we'd go to Manchester City run for the money. It doesn't seem that much now about Chelsea. I know, but- But I know, but I'm more impressed by the fact that we've beaten teams- Right, West Brom. Before the season started, you'd go, "Well, we need to beat Norwich, and we need to beat Villa." Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. We need to beat Chelsea. The other team is down the bottom. Yeah. Basically, we've beaten teams in the past- Yeah. Yeah. There's so many times in the past two seasons. You know, and Pardu, you know, West Brom came and beat us. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh. When Sunderland beat us. Yeah. When Warhol was there, Sunderland beat us. Yeah, Villa. Yeah, Villa. Yeah, absolutely. And we've beaten the teams that we should beat. The progressive last season, teams worked out how to come to tell us, and they knew there was a way they could play, compact defensively. Yeah. Now, we've proven on Saturday, you can't do that against Pardu. Yeah. And you will find a way around you. Yeah, which is brilliant, because I was just about to say the same thing, which hopefully that means the teams will come and sell their spot and say, "Well, we might as well try and attack them then." Yeah. And then that will give us a space to beat. So it's kind of- I'm just coming to the conclusion as well, all the things about Pardu and some of the baggage he may or may not come with, but it's just clearly a really good manager. Yeah. He does what he's doing. Yeah. He's as good a manager as he thinks he is. Yeah, no, he is. With that. And he's just, I just think he's just, we've got a manager who, so many times, even Steve Coppell, Warner was the same, Pierce was the same, substitutions were nearly always like for like. Yeah, not always. And now, but I'd be interested to see the figures for how many times Pardu has picked the same team twice, week and week out, as he just picks a different team for a different, and that whole thing where he just said his instinct was, "Sacko, I'm going to really upset him by not playing him," and it turned out to be the right thing. But clearly, what's happened is it seems that players aren't sulking. No, not at all. They seem, obviously, they've been made aware that they're part of the squad and that they are going to get a chance. And again, that comes back to that thing as well about seeing the Academy because he's including, because he's curious, he's open and honest about that. He didn't want youngsters in the team. He didn't want them in the squad. And clearly, Pardu is just giving everybody a chance to be part of, part of, it was a brilliant thing in the program. And the young lad who was on the bench last week, just saying how excited he was. Luke, when he walks into the dressing room at Watford and saw his name on a shirt and it's next to punch, he's like, "Wow, yeah." But it's, but it's great. It's just little details like that, it just gives it, just makes it that 1% even better than it's here. You're talking about him making Sagrangri or Errol or changing it about, is that the way to deal with someone like Wilf after the Spurs and then Watford, is that the way to deal with someone like that? Without knowing. Yeah. Because again, Wilf is one of those players that you, from what you know about his attitude in the past and for what you've seen in his body language, that you imagine he's one of those people who would, there's a touch of the Clinton Morrison's about Wilf that you'd sort of, you'd just assume, and this is probably unfair to him, so I don't know the boy at all, but he just has that demeanor and that attitude from what you hear that he would talk about, because he's brought up to believe he's the best player who is, but I don't know what Pardu said to him, but whatever it is, it worked. And I'm pretty sure Pardu, because clearly they've done their homework and West Brom. So clearly the Brom was going to play left back and it's not an actual left back. And it's just isolated, all the time, it worked every time as well, so again, that gives it a whole confidence and, I just, if Wilf could just get the finishing, again. It's coming, it's coming, but it's coming, but it's just a couple of times when, and I think the reason they're shooting more often than they're passing is because they probably know the midfield are flooding forward, but it is getting there, and it's really important for Balassie, because I didn't know this, and suddenly on Friday it became a big issue that he hadn't scored at Silla's Park for a little, like maybe two years. Yeah, and I didn't, because I don't believe him, I'm sure he's scored against QBR, but obviously not. But in the league, that's in the league, I bet it's still in the coach, I think he's running the coach, but I think it was New Year's Day against Wolves in 2013. Was it? It was the last time he scored at Silla's. So when Moritz scored those two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was... It was through you. Yeah. So that was becoming an issue. It's not far off, yeah. But obviously, I didn't know that, but also, Silla, because his dad was very disciplined as well, so... Right. But you know, it was brilliant, B.T. Sport was on in the pub, obviously. And they announced, because they interviewed Pardew, and then they said, we'll wait for Tony Pulis, but he hasn't come out of the dressing room yet, he still really feels... He said, but... He had a blouse, he's still on the pitch. He hadn't... He hadn't come... He was still on the... Wow. And he said, and he said, the commenter, the presenter said, he hasn't been off and come back out again. He hasn't come off the pitch yet, and he's still, he was out on the pitch, chatting to fans, chatting to do his stuff. And you know, it's interesting. You know, Susan Biggs, who runs a study centre, who most people at the club know, and I was sitting with Susan yesterday, it's what, we could have scored five, I probably would have missed four of them, because Susan likes to talk. But it's great, but Susan's been there for years running the study centre, and she said she can't remember a team more aware, she said, you look at all the players, when they're warming up, even during the game, when the subs are coming on, they all wave to fans, they all chat to fans, they all say, I can't remember a team win. So there's always one or two in the team, and she said, I don't know whether that's... They've been told to do that, I don't think so. I think it just seems to be an atmosphere round the club, and that's, and that's simple things like that, you go, again, it's a, oh, that gives you another one, I said. But they're happy. They seem to be happy. But it's like Delaney's in the podcast, it's the sort of Sunday league field to them, it's just, and they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're sexy together and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he said, can't you? So, some of them are, but yeah. Okay, God, I think that's a really nice note to end part one on. I think this should be the last, whatever, because I was just going to get any better things. Which is hard to, that's, again, that's a brilliant, being a Palace fan of long standing, that is just there. It's one of my mates, and even I think I'm pessimistic, but it just, he was so downcast because he's just like, it's, it's best it's going to be, it's not, he's just know from now on. I was the point ever going again. Actually, no, but it's just pretty much, it's not forever going to a game again. It's never going to be as good as it is. It's never going to be as good as that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Palace haven't peaked, and the port hasn't peaked either because we're back in part two for questions from our listeners, so join us in a bit. 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No, you're thinking of printing. Okay. Maybe. Anyway, the first question this week comes from Kevin Childs. Hi, Kevin. Hi, Kevin. And he says, "Does the panel think that the pairing of McArthur and Kebai, who I've dubbed McAbai, but no one else has, is? Kebatha. Kebatha would be. Kebatha. I prefer McAbai. It is, I could buy Tel Aviv, you know, McArthur. Is the best midfield duo we've ever had, and he's put in brackets, just pipping Thomas and Gray in my opinion? Ooh. I think they're the best of us for a while. I think, well, I said, I mean, it's always difficult to compare different generations. I think I would take, I think I would take Gray out of the equation. I think you could argue, well, that's a good question. I think, Jeff Thomas, I mean, it's the whole thing. They wouldn't cause Jeff Thomas wouldn't get in the team now because fitness and speed. I've got respective earrings. Yes, respective earrings. I think you would, oh, I'd like to see more of McArthur, McAbai. I think we need to see more of Kebai. Yeah. It's got potential. I think we have to be very, very curious. It's got potential. Well, I think, I think the other thing as well is the way Pold you works, that I'm not, I'm not convinced that there will always be the, the parents. I think you will change them for different. I think Kebai is Kebai plus whoever, whoever, but also I think that conversation we were having about Kebai earlier, I think there are circumstances in which he would play Kebai further forward, maybe in front of Ledley and McArthur. I don't know. We're not that often though, we think. I don't, I think it, I think it looks like they would have been, but again, because of our squad, we've just got so many options with Jedi to come back and- Oh, do we think that maybe one of Jedi or Ledley might possibly go at some point? I don't know. I think they would have, the thing with Jedi is, I mean, it's, it's, it was a circumstance. Say, if something had got rid of Avocado, and it was, it was, they got rid of in January say, and someone like Aladise went to something, he might say, well, I'll take Jedi and that some of that. But the thing is, if you, if you're in trouble, you'd buy a story, you know, Jedi is not somebody, you can't imagine the Premier League team in January saying the player we need is Jedi. Jedi to get us out. I just can't say really struggling. I don't know. But I think if Jedi was going to go, he would have done something like opportunities. He was close to going with me. I think he was quite clear that Jedi is. He is injured. He is injured. I think he's got to find out. He's down the pecking. He's down the pecking. He's down the fourth choice now. I'd be harsh about it. I think he probably is. I think it's hard to imagine circumstances at the moment outside of cup games where Jedi would be. Or in cross. I mean if Jedi wanted to stay, how happy would you be that your fifth choice midfield closed is me and they're jettin' it. I think goodbye, again it's an old cliché, but it looks like, I mean, it looks like he's rejuvenated. I thought it was really bad to come by us today, because again it's Newcastle fans said to me when I said this, you know when it came by I got clattered and he was down for a minute and everyone was all on par so he'd go, but he'd got up and he'd make it to Newcastle fans said if he was at Newcastle he would have stayed down and gone off. Really? Yes, towards the end he said he had no real, he looks like he's got a real appetite for playing football now, clearly. Do you think that's due to the fact that he wants to play the European Championship? I think it has to be, whatever it is. I don't care what the motivation is, as long as he's got it, and even if we only have it for a year until the European Championship sets, but I think it does not matter. It's like Scott Dances, if goodbye stays, there are going to be people all over Britain and Europe who go, I'll go to the club. Exactly, but I think that's a difficult question to answer. I think of the four, you'd say Andy Gray was the fourth. Jeff Thomas, I just think out a lot, I'm reluctant to say Jeff was a Brit of it. The people who I boy, the people who I boy get, the people who I haven't seen Jeff Thomas play, and it's a real indictment of how the media work. It's so many people, the only thing I know of Jeff Thomas is missing that chance through England. He was such a good player, and it's not passing. And we talked about Khabai earlier and making other players better. Jeff Thomas just, I mean, he was like Brian Ross. For me, he was as good as Brian Rawson, a Roy Keane in that he lifted that team. If we're one deal down, he looked at Thomas for inspiration. I am reluctant to sort of... It was a leader. It was a leader. It was a leader. I'm going to pursue that. It's going to become the Thomas and Gray for the next generation. Oh, I think, I think, possibly. Yeah, I mean, I think you'd probably, if you were being brutally honest about it, you'd say Khabai was number, those four players. Khabai would be number one, Andy Gray would be number four. But, yeah, the car for probably would be second. It's a good question. Good question. The next question is from Oliver Moss. He says, "As there's no matches for the next two weeks, how many times will each of you be checking the league table in this time?" Ooh, we're pretty much committed to memory. Right, but there is something there is something now because, you know, we've all we've all had things in the past where after one game, or even before the season, because of alphabetic order, we've been talking about after one game. The thing is now, we've played enough games for the league table to be a proper league table now. Yeah, and also, again, if you want to put your pessimistic palace head on, there's two London teams and two Manchester teams in the top four. That's brilliant. You would never have guessed that we'd be seven points head to Chelsea. Yeah. But even more importantly, we are 14 points. Above the relegation. Yeah, 25 to go. Yeah, no, we've got 15. So we're 12 points. We're 15, we're 12 points. Plus a goal, plus a goal difference. Above the relegation. And also, it took us five games last year to get 22 games before we got our fifth win. Really? Oh, there was a great quote from Pargy. I don't know if it was this week. It must have been. It said that the last time we had 15 points in the Premier League, we were eating our Christmas dinner. Yeah. Wow. It's nice, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. So we got 12 points. Last year, we got the Liverpool game. We won 3-1. That got us from 9 to 12 points. That was a 12 game. And then we didn't win another game. The fifth game didn't come along, the fifth win. So it was 22 games before we got the fifth. We got draws and points and stuff. Isn't that amazing? Especially given the fixtures, the start of season, we thought was going to be tricky. I mean, how well have we done to be where we are now? Also, interestingly, here and right, it was quite interesting. It was a very tricky sport afterwards because of the sense of saying, it's good job policy. We got points in the bag. We just looked at the games we got coming up. West Ham, Leicester, Newcastle, Sonner. But also we got United and Liverpool. Liverpool, yeah. The end right went. They're not in a relegation battle. There's nothing to do with points in the bag. He said, "No, it's not one of those eight teams that won't be going on. Christ, we've got a Palace." Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Because the thing now is as well, for all that we talked about, we struggled to beat teams and ran about us. But we struggled even more to beat top four teams. We're in the games. We are one of those top four teams. We beat in Chelsea. We matched. And let's be fair, we said it before. We lost to Manchester City this season. We played much better this season against them with last season when we beat them. So, yeah, we're in the game. We're in the game against these teams. We never feel like we're out of a game, really. No, but it's a rare situation where we're beating teams we should beat. And competing with teams. It's the perfect scenario for a team, size of Palace. And now, interestingly, I don't think anybody would have predicted that Palace West End and Palace Leicester would be top six clashes. Because Leicester fans will probably be having the same conversation, whatever. Because I thought Ranieri was a disastrous decision. I thought it was a crazy decision. Yeah, me too. And I thought after the first couple of games, well, first adrenaline of a new season, they'll fall away. But no. They look really good. No, and they do look really good. And they're playing like stuff as well. They've got spirit, they've got team. It's very similar. They've got that mentality that we're not going to lose. It's actually really interesting to hear what fans of other clubs think about this. It's actually quite refreshing to look at the top six of the Premier League table anymore. Because three of the teams of the top six are far from the usual suspects. No one would have said after eight games that Leicester and Palace would be in the top six. After two games you'd go. Yeah, all right, you've got Man City, and you've got, you know, Man United possibly. You know, all possibly going to. But you know, as you say, around that you've got other teams that are not not there. We're above Tottenham. We're above Chelsea. But also given like Liverpool. It's a bird beat City. And there's been other results. It makes you think this could be one of the most open leagues. We do seasons for a long time. Oddly enough, I think we've spoken about this. Oddly enough considering what's happened with Mourinho. Mourinho did say in the summer that he thought this was going to be the most open. He looked at, and he used Palace and Swansea as an example. We said the top four will lose a lot more games. He said Liverpool wins the championship. The Premier League will do it with ten, twelve, less points. Two or fewer points are bigger. But you know, Palace Leicester in the years gone by. It's going to be, you know, in the championship. In the championship. You'd get played. You were going to play your final with Steve Claridge. Yeah. Or you'd certainly, it wouldn't be a sellout for Liverpool. But it's going to be really eagerly anticipated. It's part of where Stan is going to be. It's going to be a real game. OK. Next question is from Junior. Of course, this all presupposes that Padre is still our manager. Well, I'm going to come to that in part three. But Junior is the next question. Hi Junior. He says, "Who do you think will be our top goal scorer this season?" Interesting. Well, looking at the amount of penalties we've had. I think we've had six already this season. Have we? No, not the Premier League. We've had six apparently. Yeah, we did two job ones. We did two job ones. But two and a half. Also, because it'll be goodbye. Because he takes the penalty. Yeah, yeah. This comes back to... Much as I love Andy Johnson. And much as I used to say at the time, yeah, there's a vast difference between diving and making maximum use of the contact that was available. Will. But no, but will. None of them. Some of Andy Johnson's penalties, you'd have to go. I wasn't looking. But I'm sure he's an honest player. He's an honest player. He's a really honest player. Low center of gravity. Yeah. But none of the penalties. I don't think you could argue any of the penalties we've had. No. And the fact is, Pardu's clearly said that it's a very simple thing to do. But if you get a chance to go in the box. Get in the area. Get in the box. And Brent just fell for it yesterday. And it takes a really... And he gets waffered as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The defenders have got to learn to stay on their feet. Which could defend his will. And it won't always work. Yeah. He's going to get more penalties like that. And velocity will get more penalties. But I think one of the coming back to be an ultra critical. At the moment, you'd imagine whoever our top goalscore is, it's going to be 10 to 12. Yeah. But the goals come from... Well, the other thing is... I don't think we're going to get a lot of goals. I don't think we're going to get a lot of goals. Is it for all... It's a really interesting stat after the Watford game. For all the huge amount of crosses we put. We've only scored one goal from across. You know, we can play this entire season. Is that yesterday? No, this was before yesterday. So... We've put more crosses in than any of the... Trying to work out when that was. I think it's... I think one... From a contact directly from the... The first contact from across. So across. So I thought it might be in the Chelsea sackos. But anyway... Oh, no. It might be a willful hit in origin. On the cross. Okay. Right. But for all the wide play, it hasn't resulted in a lot of goals. And the reason our goal difference is right is because we're not conceding many. But again, coming back to me, I know it's critical. Kabay is going to weigh in with goals, the penalties. But we need more goals from McArthur and the other midfield players. Yeah. And that's one thing I know is we're punching yesterday. I did think he had a really good game, but he seems slightly more keen to shoot. And he hasn't done... He's shooting wasn't in the class. And he's shooting... There was one just before the goal, which... So you need practice? Yeah. Yeah. Do you think maybe... Because we do attack a lot, I mean, there might be one game where all just comes together. Yeah. I think so. And I think maybe we're punching as well. Maybe because he doesn't feel... Maybe he feels there's less responsibility on him now that he's not like the senior... Creator, if you like, in midfield. Perhaps he's not as... I don't know. But it's a good question. But I agree with James, I think, at the moment, I think, Kabay. Kabay, yeah. I'm speaking of scoring goals. Karen Gilroy, like Karen says, "When are we selling Campbell?" Exclamation mark, exclamation mark, exclamation mark, exclamation mark. As implying that we should? Well... I was given Campbell really hard time, and a lot of people around me give Campbell hard time. Yesterday, when he came on, I thought he did it. I thought he did it all right. He should. I thought he held the ball quite well, made a bit of a need for himself. It's first, which lets him down sometimes. But, you know... I don't think he's a preeminent player, to be honest. But he did a job yesterday. I think, come the next challenge... It's not on front of you. Look, as soon as we get Shemaq back, and we come back, you ain't going to see Frasier Campbell on the front of you. You say that. You know, we've talked about players in the past where... And Gary was one of them where he said, "Well, a succession of managers hasn't touched him." Campbell's seen quite a few palace managers. Yeah, no, it hasn't. There's clearly something there. And Pargis seems to rate him more than one of them. But Kevin, do you think you'd be there if both Wickham and Shemaq weren't fit? Would he be on the bench? No, I'm not. Well, as it said, I don't think... I think if Wickham was fit, I still think he wouldn't get double figures in terms of goals. Goals. No, I think you're right. Yeah, I think you're right. Campbell, it's interesting, isn't it? If you're chasing a game or you want someone to hassle the back for it, not a bad option to bring off. No, he's not. No, he's not. No, it's not a bad option. But I think the fact is, again, when Wickham and Shemaq are back, Gail will be the Fraser camp. Gail will be the option to come on and hassle. Because I think, again, much as we said Gail played the right yesterday, I still... And in fact, Delaney said this on the pod. He said he's basically in more robust language than I'm going to use. He said he's not going to get a lot of chances because he's better with a cent of forward. He's better with a 4-4-2 and no-one plays a 4-4-2. I said it in the game yesterday. I think he's never going to get half a chance in that game. No, I always think Gail's... I hope we keep Gail, but I think he's an impact sub, I think he's somebody to... He's also somebody there for when... Because not every back four is going to be like West Brom's. Exactly, yeah. I think Gail's for one of those... And it's like Delaney said he'd much rather play against Costa. He'd much rather play against the big cent of forward and the moba. And I think there are times when Gail is the perfect choice and perfect fit. And I think interestingly with Gail, the Charlton game has sort of illustrated that he's better than Championship level, but he's not... Yeah, but he's not quite talked for a million. But don't forget that. I think he'll get more options. But also Gail's scoring record is still really good. His goals for Gail record. So I think Gail will be the Campbell. Because I think clearly Pardew paid a lot of money for Wickham's. And clearly... I mean the other one, we haven't mentioned Bamford. It seems to be... Of course, yeah. I've completely forgotten about it. It seems to be... I don't know if he's injured or not, but he's very much... He was on the bench. He was on the bench. He was on the bench. He was on the bench. He was on the bench. Again, he seems very much on the... It's shame about Wickham because he was just... Before he got injured, he was just starting to show. He wasn't in that Chelsea game. He's just starting to think... He was, but this is what he can do for us. Well, that's things. But what he can do, I don't think... I think what he is is a really good Cameron Jerome in a sense that I think he is a proper... Proper... It's the option we didn't have yesterday. Which is the proper big... I mean, he would have... Again, it might have played into West Brom's hands, I don't know, but he's... He is a very mobile... He's a mobile battery. He's a more mobile glimmering... He's got more goals than Cameron Jerome. He's got a bit more... I'm not entirely sure he will, but more goals will be scored because of him than Cameron Jerome. But clearly, Pardew... I mean, we paid as much for him, if not more than we did for Kebai, and clearly Pardew really wanted to get him. So, he's obviously in his thoughts. And he's young as well, so he's got... Yeah, it'll be really interesting to see what happens when... Ward will presumably go straight back in the team. I don't know. But it'll be interesting to see what happens with Delaney, and especially with Wickham. Because now you've got Wickham... I mean, Sacco is another one. Yeah. As the... The big battery... Would you play Sacco at front? I'll play Sacco at front. It's the gym. I think he was going to come on to play off from yesterday, right? Yes. In the man's city game, I was surprised. Because I thought he was going to play Sacco as a straight forward center forward, but it looks like he could... I agree, yeah. But between Balassie's heart, Sacco, Wickham, Punching, possibly, Banford, Gayle, Matt, Shavak. You've got a lot. You've got a lot. We've got about ten. But yeah, but you've got... You've got those options. You've got variety. You've got variety. They're not all the same sort of player. Exactly. Which in the past, you've got... Which is the thing you were talking about. I don't give him his own. We will adapt to our audience. Yeah. And also, it means you've got a different sort of substitute to come on. He's not going back to his life for like... Absolutely. Which is why he's good at it. Well, apologies since he really does seem good at... Yeah. You know, changing the variety and making it. Yeah. Good stuff. Okay, the next question is from Tony Stewart. Hi, Tony. Tony, Tony, Tony. He says, "West Brom is a very one-sided game, but what's the most one-sided palace game you've ever seen?" We beat South End in the League Cup. I think it was eight. Well, the away game we live for and tell it would be that... You know, I kneel. Yeah. Yeah. I think... Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, yesterday was one of the most... I think that was one of the most... Certainly in the Premier League. I mean, that was... Look, can you know, talking to that conversation about how we used to play a good underpulis. I don't remember away games. Well, home games were playing the same. I don't remember... I was being dominated, didn't it? Well, I don't remember Ross. No, I don't. I haven't, because it was no ambition. There's such a lack of... Very few games where we were very much defensive. Oh, yeah. But did they... Did they even tell you it was the type of players that couldn't all play like that? You had your wingers, you know? Yeah. We always had an outlet. Yeah. In terms of dominant games, I remember in the promotion season, we played Nottingham Forest at home in midweek. Remember that? And we absolutely smashed them in the first half of the league. Again. Yeah. And then we scored and they equalised and ended up one all... I remember walking away from that a lot of people thinking, "How have we not won that game?" Yeah. We absolutely dominated, but... Again, they go back to Old Palace, mines for good. New Palace. Can find a way to win these games. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. And also, I think as well, I think even if we had... If we'd not won this, then it would go to be lost, not got to be... It's not a life for deficit, but... I think most people would have gone away... There was only a march we lost to West Bromer. I was... I was genuinely furious. Because it was... But I think yesterday you would have gone away going, "Well..." But hey, we're in the top ten. The top ten pretty. But because you could see... It would have been through no for... Yes, it would have been the most. It would have been a shocking outrage if they got anything from that game. But I think you're still going away happy again. Well, there's nothing. We're still a lot. We're a really good team in the making. But the fact that... We didn't go away with nothing. Well, I just... I just... The fact that we came out, we played. I mean, I'd have been quite happy with the draw before. The game started... Before the game had to be happy. Not after. Yeah. Half time, I would have taken a point. Half time, I'd have taken a point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I really thought they needed it. They would have been. But, you know, how many times... The things, how many times have we seen that? A lot. We obviously can't remember any examples. Because we've researched this really well, as you know. Okay. I think the... No, the South and League games, you know, but League Cup game rather. But there must have been... No, I can't even remember. Every year... Third round, FA Cup draw. Every year, I'd just say, "Please, can we just have a non-leading?" Yeah. Yeah. Because, like, yesterday, I said, "The Series." I was just... Well, you did a few years ago, didn't we? No, we got over, last thing. Over, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was great. But, you know, we're actually really interested in what David did. David did anything about that. Don't figure out how that was the perfect game... Yeah. ...for Paji's first game. Right. Because he said, "We knew we could try to play the sort of football that you wanted us to play with." I mean, that's really no-one else. With that kind of risk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, every... I just... Yes, that's it. Just once, I'd like us to be three and a half to ten minutes. He was just sitting there going, "It's just a question of how many we scored." Yeah. Or not even at three and a half. I'd be saying, "Oh, we scored three too early." Yeah. "We've got eight minutes to score four goals at night." I'd love him. That's a good question, no doubt. Brilliant question. Great question. I think... I would... Yeah, not with standing West Brom were poor yesterday. This is the Premier League team. Are we... That at a Premier League team all the way through? Yeah. We've added an established Premier League team. Yeah, it's not even stopping us. It's not even stopping us. It's not even stopping us. All right, part three. Oh, that's serious. This is as good as it's going to go. It probably is. Okay. There's people on the tube listening to this guy. All right. They've changed. All right. A few more questions. Martin Walsh. Martin. Oh, Martin. Says, "Would could I get into an all-time Palace Handsome 11?" Yeah, obviously Handsome 11. Handsome 11. Oh, yeah. I think that we've got a couple of, I think Joel Ward would probably get in there. Yeah, probably. Wardy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, look at Daley. Wardy. Wardy. Little lynch in his eye there. Yeah, Wardy. Okay. Talk about players. Podcast hosts. You know, I'd be a separate. Rob, obviously top one. Yeah. I mean, I literally am the only one. No, there's another one. There was another one. Someone started another Palace podcast. Oh, really? Oh, really? Oh, really? All right. Good. I'm talking about... Hang on now. I think I'm going to eat today. Yeah, yeah. Well, competition is healthy, so it'll bring up the best in us. Yeah, we'll do some one. Like Coca-Cola and McDonald's. Is it? How do they get those deals? I think we're near those kind of deals. Anyway, our next question is from Aiden Stevenson. Hi, Aiden. I said, would you agree that the best bit of business this summer, the Super Owl did, was to hang on to Yannick? Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. I don't know. I mean, it's very good. I think getting combined, surely got to top that. Yeah, I think... I also think... I think that's a really good question, because I think we could be sitting there on Aiden to tweet a question saying, was selling the last thing for $20 million, including the best bit of business. Yeah. Yeah. Because I've... Just in terms of... It's an interesting one, bless, because I love him. I love him to bits, and I want him to start every game. But I understand those people who say, "Well, he's a highlights player." And, yeah, if you look at his highlights package, it's brilliant. But if you take... Well, he's gone one goal. That's three years. That's the last part. Yeah. And take away the sudden hatred. But I think goodbye was probably a bit of it. But keeping Blassy is brilliant. I mean, there's no doubt about it. But also, I think the thing with Blassy as well is that... And I'm sure Pargy would say, you can't... It's the camera in your own argument. You can't just quantify it. By a goal score, it's the amount of space he brings in for... Yeah. The amount of space that Swari was getting yesterday... Was thanks to him. It was thanks to him. And certainly in the championship, so much, the space that Swari was getting was because of Blassy. Yeah. He offers way more than just the highlights. I'm delighted. I think it's brilliant. And I... Again, we don't know the circumstances of why he stayed. I hope the circumstances were that he could fulfill his ambitions at... At Palace. Oh, it's got down. Yeah. I hope that was the case. Because in the past, he would have... Of course he would have gone. We're going to lost Blassy two seasons going. It is great, Blassy, keeping Blassy. Because he's got that thing that Pargy will lose, and that's the unpredictability. Yeah. And that's the thing. It's the element of surprise of both him and Wilf. And to have two players of that caliber that could play terribly for you. Yeah. And really mess up, but could also produce most of magic that could turn games. Yeah, yeah. And we've got two of them. And more often than not to the Premier League, which they're doing. Well, it's the thing as well, which is... Before I met, I was really nice. I think in terms of management, I think it's been really nice that Pargy and Steve Parrish have talked about Blassy's dad several times. Yeah. And I mentioned it yesterday because I kind of think that's a really nice thing for a player to hear knowledge. Absolutely. But what's interesting, particularly I know, is that... It's a hard game. It's much simpler now. And I don't know whether Pargy's taught... Yannick still tends to go for the flicks and tricks. Yeah. And sometimes they come off, where basically Zahar's doing what I think Yannick could do more often. Basically Zahar's just pushing it past the defender and still doing maybe that one step over of his, which seems to have completely bamboozled experience. Even though you know it's coming, it still seems to get that from. But basically he's knocking it past him. And without, because Zahar just doesn't look as fast as Blassy. But it just... And it's working really well. And I think there's a couple times when Yannick could maybe go for that option sometime. And I think it might be because what we talked about before Zahar hasn't always got the option of giving it to Kelly who's overlapping. So he has a lot of choice but to try and get past it. And it's a QPR game last evening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I think... I mean, that's an interesting question, but I don't know. I think bringing Kibai in was... I would say... I would say Kibai. So maybe the Kibai then led to people like Yannick's team. Of course, again, from what, you know, the Tottenham rumours are still there. Yeah, I'd still... I'd be upset if Tottenham were to pay 15, 20 million... I'd take it. I'd take it. It's the same in the Glen Murray thing. It's like, yeah, there were some Palace fans. And I don't know what the Palace fans wanted with the Glen Murray situation. But there were some Palace fans who'd seen the three Glen Murray like a sort of... I mean, we said this before, like an elderly Labrador. It's like they didn't want to let him go. But they didn't really want to let him... They didn't want to play. They didn't want to let him play either. It'd be nice to sort of sit around and... Yeah, just sit around and we'd look nice and occasionally we could tickle his tummy. And he's great with kids. He's really good with kids. But we made four and a half million quick profit on him, whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he wasn't going to score us the goals in the Premier League. And it's brilliant. He's going to play regularly, I hope, for Bulmouth. Well, he is now a Wilson City. Yeah, he's horrible. And he... And he won... Of course, it was always big. But that's never going to go. And I still think that's really... And I think the same way as Palazzi goes for that amount of money, Shame said, will always be a Palazzi hero, but... Absolutely. You've got to be realistic about this. Nobody's being in the club. Absolutely. And the thing is as well... You have to move on. But you've got to move on. But we're in a position now. It's like a double positive. We're in a position now where players hopefully don't want to leave us. But we're also in a position where I think we're being so well managed that... Or ever, if we let players go, it's because we've got somebody else that can replace them. Or it'll be to bring somebody else in. And it's... I don't think we're a club that has to let players go anymore. We think we can play hardball now because it seems from what I can gather that we're starting to match other clubs for wages. But also because we're doing well, you kind of think, why don't know if we're Deannic want to go? Yeah, I've known United came in from Liverpool, PSG. Of course you'd go. Of course, go. You're in mid-20s going. Why would you go to New Castle? The clubs that were coming in were ever in New Castle. Why would he do that? Why don't he do that? Just in terms of... But I think that seems to be being taken out of the equation. Why would you go to teams that are clearly unstable or unsettled? And when it's quite clear, it seems to me that the Lassie's going to be the one that's picked. It seems like Sacco and Zahar is a big decision each week. But it seems to me that the Lassie's first always going to be the leader. Good stuff. Well, great questions again this week. Very good. Thank you very much for them. In part three, we're looking forward to... We've got International Break, but the next game will be West Ham at home. So we'll preview that in part three. So do you want us in a bit? Hello listeners and welcome back to the Fuff Your Plan podcast. Can you cut and paste the sponsors in? No, I have to do this. We are sponsored by JC Innovation and Strategy. The global research and brand consultancy from South London. Visit JC-IS.com. And, of course, vector printing. But all your print and embroidery needs go to vector.co.uk And that's vector with a... Okay, good. So part three, we are going to look forward to the West Ham game. But before that, news tonight out of Liverpool is that Brendan Rodgers has left the club. A few Palace fans on social media are a little bit worried that possibly they might be sniffing around. How do we feel about that? No, I don't think... I don't think... I think if there's one job part you would leave us all, it would be the England job. We were talking about this earlier on, Kevin, while you were making... Peppermint tea? Peppermint tea for JD. Peppermint and nettle tea. And it loves us. It's a nettle tea. I don't know which is more embarrassing than the fact that JD asked if we had peppermint tea. Or the fact that the answer was yes. Yes. I know what my answer is. It's very nice. But this Mrs. Day is responsible for the peppermint tea. I do believe that if... I think if England crashes out of the Euros next year, then maybe they'll come knocking at parties' door. And he would probably go... And he would probably go up. If he wanted that job, definitely. Oh, I think Pardee definitely wants it. I wonder if... And I'm sure it's his contract. I would imagine it is. I wonder if there are... Again, there have been rumours that the FA have said the next manager may be foreign again. I don't know. But I wonder if there are elements of Pardee who's passed on the pitch. He's got quite a volatile reputation in terms of his... Because again, conspiracy theories about... I think the fact with Pellegrini, he was very restrained when Pellegrini had a go two weeks ago. Yeah. Compared to Tom and I would call him whatever he called it before. Yeah. I think Pardee was clearly trying to up his image on the top side. I wonder if there are some of the incidents in the past might count against him a little bit. And also... I don't think you'll go to Liverpool though. No, also I think for the England job. I also think much as we talked about earlier about how people like Palis at the moment, I also think much as Pardee's getting credit, I don't think Pardee would be a sexy choice as if we were manager from other fans. Right. You would have a sexy choice. The Liverpool team would count on sexy. The Liverpool team is really interested because immediately the conspiracy theories start that they've got rid of the Rodgers today or no one's clear as to whether he's walked, got rid of me. It's a perennial. They've got rid of... Well, no, no. They've got rid of him because Chelsea... They think Chelsea is going to send Reno. So they're going to go for Cloppe Ranchelotti before Chelsea do. Ah, right. But I can't see him personally. The conspiracy theory I told was that... It's the marine you're going to deliver. Oh, okay. I can't see that. I can't see that one. Well, I can't see any circumstances by which Chelsea would sack Mourinho. But clearly... Oh, well, not clearly. We don't know. Again, it's all surmised. But it seems that something is wrong at Chelsea behind the scenes. And I think the whole thing with the female doctor... Yeah. There's something wrong. That female doctor thing, that was the only good bit of PR. Chelsea's PR is terrible in the past few years. But she was a really good bit of PR for them. And clearly, whatever happened that's been blown out of all proportion. To me, Mourinho... I think Mourinho's great. I think he's good for football. But I think Mourinho's the one who's built that out of all... Mourinho's using that to create the paranoia and the reason for him. Oh, I feel you're going to keep telling me that I was wrong in that. I'm leaving the club. He's got it wrong over that. No, I think he's completely wrong. I think Chelsea's totally got it wrong because somebody should have said to me... Because technically, Mourinho is right in what he said. But all you have to do is say, "Not I really ever reacted." And I apologise. But you won't do that. And something makes me think... Because the players... Either the players have suddenly got old. And again, you said this earlier, James. It's starting to... Our result... That staff would just start to look... No, it does look like... No, it does. It doesn't look like... Great. We've beaten another team in the bottom six. This is what we want to do. Like Terry, yes. Either the players are not playing for him or they've got old. I don't know what it is, but clearly... There is something wrong. Clearly there is something wrong. But what I'm saying is, I can't see any way... Chelsea would second. But Mourinho is so perverse. I can see the way Mourinho says, "I can make Liverpool into the team." I can get him back to glory days again. And then maybe Chelsea might be looking for... But again, I know it's interesting. Steve Parrish said, apparently on the beating interview, I didn't see this, apparently Steve Parrish said... They said to him, "Are you worried about him being poached by a top four club?" I can't see... Well, I can't see any circumstances whereby City would lose per degree there. City fans would be happy for Liverpool to part you. I don't think Liverpool would turn to... Just in the fact of their owners, I don't think their owners... We'll even know what Liverpool is. They won't even know what Liverpool says. When you're at that level, it's about the brand reputation. It's about the brand and it's the brand level, but it's the brand. Well, that's right. And Parjou will not add anything to the brand. And that's where Mourinho would and Chelsea would. But that's where I thought... That's where I thought Rodgers was a stranger choice Liverpool as Roy Hodgson. That's Roy Hodgson had been, because, yeah, it's great. He played some brilliant football in Swansea, and he did. But Liverpool and Rodgers keeps saying this, we're not a big club anymore. They are. They're a huge club. They're a massive... They were never one of the biggest clubs in the world. Of course they are. And the fact is, there's a great quote today to talk about Ferguson's book and how difficult it was for David Moyes. He said, "When you're one of the biggest F-off clubs in the world, you need the biggest F-off, and Liverpool need the best players in the world." I mean, he lucked into Suarez, basically. The best players in the world aren't going to go, "Yeah, I'd love to come and play for Brenda Rodgers. I'm going to learn a lot from him." But they'll play for a clock when they play for Angelotti. Yeah. Or they'll play for Mourinho. Yeah. But again, the thing with Pardub is... They don't even know how Pardub is. Of course they don't. Whereas at Ireland, all Palace, it kind of works. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's why I want Pardub... That's what we've all said. What would be brilliant is if... Because I think we've all... We all thought from the start that Pardub is the most likely permanent auction. Yeah. What would be great is if he stays there for... I'd love to see him do a thing of, maybe not for as long, but... Five, ten years, builds and builds. Yeah, absolutely fantastic. And of course, but then you'd be flat if he got the England job. You'd be really, really flattered at the Palace, as long as you got... Yeah, absolutely. They've got the England job. And then we'll get Mourinho, so it's all over the world. Oh, my God, he loves balance. He loves balance. Yeah, but again, I mean, we laugh, but it does come back to that... What we say about getting combined Scott Dan saying... Absolutely. If we carry on doing this, then there are... There's no reason... If we won't be looking to get Neil Warnock off, he's a fucking tractor. Yeah. We'll be looking for... I don't know what the French for Tractor is just at the moment. Tractor is a tractor. But we would be. But then the other argument is would we want to attract that sort of manager or... You know, because Pardub is a kind of... Not a misfit, if you like, but it was a... You know, it's not... Yeah. He didn't work at Newcastle at the end, and he was one of our own. He left it for us, then. Perfect for us, exactly. Because again, I suppose... Against a typical football thing that's there. He's already thinking ahead three years to win. We've become fancy dance, you know. I don't want to get bored of it. I'm going to say this out now. I don't want Klopp. I don't want that sort of manager at our club. Let's then move on to West Ham, which would be the next game, because I'm not going to do it at Pardub doing international break. Given how badly a negative West Brom were, how do we expect West Ham to approach this game at Seoul? Pretty much the opposite, wouldn't you? I think that's opposite. I think they're an exciting team to watch, West Ham at the moment. I think it's an exciting game. I was in Edinburgh last year. You got 20 revenue. Yeah, but I think Milan was... It was Keith Miller still in charge? Yes, yes, yes. And everyone says, I wasn't there, but all the report, everyone was there, said, "West Ham played us off the pitch that day." And West Ham's away from me. I think it's got the makings of a really, really good game. I think it was the neutral. I think not for us. Well, the beauty is that we can be able to still be ninth afterwards. We've been on top 10s. Yeah, but I think... Motational speaking, Kara, Mr. Kara. Yeah, but West Ham are a team of just... I don't know, legally. I'm trying to find a way of saying conned the British taxpayer in public. I don't know. But West Ham, West Ham are a team... The way they sell them, so West Ham are a bigger team. They're a bigger club than us. But, yeah, they sell them, so they're not as big as gold. Well, the World Cup is one of them. Oh, Christ, isn't they, Justin? One of them... Almost 50 years old. Well, I think they're a Fulham player in that statue. There's three of them. One of them is a Fulham player. Yeah, they won the World Cup blah blah blah blah. Academy blah blah blah blah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they are a big club. And also, they're... I've always had a slight spots the wrong word, but they're a proper London club. And they're not as big as gold and Sullivan, I think, perceive them to be. They're expecting Champions League football. But they help me very well this time. They are. This is an exciting time to be West Ham. Again, I thought... And also, they have the elements of Alan Pager as well. There is, yeah. Again, I thought... I thought Billich... I thought Billich was a risky choice. And I'm still... Billich seems to have the same attitude as Pager as that he wants to win games rather than draw them. Yeah. And I just think... I just think what's really exciting is that for once, West Ham Palace is a really big London derby. We have two teams in the top. Absolutely. In the top. You know, I mean, it's not Arsenal's top, but it's... And again, it comes back to what we said about looking at the league table. Yeah, that's right. I think for both sets of fans, it's really exciting. Yeah. And I think it's a game where both teams will go for it. And we've got similar sorts of... We did. We did. We did. We did. Yeah, we did. That's very good. Also, there are similar... If you look at them as well, there are similar sorts of... Because they've got big, strong players. Because, again, they're one of the teams in the past. And Alan, on the West Ham team, you look at them, you go, "Geez, we can't compete with them." Just physically. We can. And now we can. Yeah, sorry. But they've got players that look to do skillful things and make mistakes. So, I figured... Palace... You know, an ill place. It's a very, very, very... Palace, why not? I mean, we said before, we passed, like, to change it. So, maybe we can't second-guess him. But any ideas on how you'd like to line up against him? I don't think it would be that much. I don't think it would be that much. Different to the West Ham. Okay, well, it's not the West Ham. No, I think that depends on... The fitness of... Right. Yeah, I think it is. I don't... I... I... I don't... I... I... I wouldn't think that... Okay, it depends on Fitz, but I wouldn't... I wouldn't be convinced that Gail's done quite enough to start. I... I would... It just... It just sort of came to a go. I don't know. I'm not criticizing him at all. But I would... From the way Pardee was picking up Sacco again, I would... You know, that's how difficult he was to leave him out. I would... I think Sohar would start. That's quite clear. Yeah, definitely. And you'd presume, bless you. I've got a feeling that Sacco would probably start this game instead of Gail. Yeah. Possibly because... Simply because of the physical element. Yeah. I genuinely think the same. I really do. I think he's actually quite a good option. Yeah. Yeah. But I think... I think maybe right back to Penny on Ward, maybe... Yeah. But Delaney, does they may get back in very difficult? I see... Again, see, Westam... It'll be a physical game, won't it? It will be. But also, Westam, we've got... I mean, Pi A, they've got some really mobile stuff. Sacco is very good as well. Yeah. Again, it's interesting if Dan... You know, you think, well, Dan... It'll be four or five weeks out. I mean, obviously, if he plays, he'll presumably be fit. I don't know. Would you put Delaney straight back at hand? I don't know. It's really... Hank, you've got options. I really think... I don't think... I don't think he'd be justified in putting Delaney's list. Much as we love him. Yeah. I don't see... I think Kelly could possibly feel hard done by if he's... Yeah. He's done all right. I think... I really think the only change you're going to see it up front. Yeah. But even then, I... From what we know, I apologize. I think he will at least sit them down and say, "This is why we're..." It's not... I don't think any Palace player can look upon it as being dropped... Yeah. ...anymore. No. No. You're just not being used for that particular... Yeah, maybe McCarthy slightly different. Yeah, maybe McCarthy slightly different. But... I apologize, it'll always be for tactical reasons, I think. But I... Well, that's good management. Oh, no, it is. I don't think he'd be justified in chasing any of the backfires. And also, potentially the return of Victor Moses, which I say last time. Who seems to have been Neil Warner was really interesting about... He was on "Girls on Sunday" today. Right. He was really interesting about Moses saying that Moses loves London so much that he's so happy to be back at... Right. ...the back in London, back at West End, because he was out, where was he before... Stoke was me. Stoke. Stoke. Stoke, yes. And he was interesting because he was saying that Moses is as good as Harbick's victim. I mean, he looks like one of those players who hasn't quite lived up to his potential. Right. He doesn't look at the... You'd say, "Well, even if we had Moses a palace, you wouldn't pick him ahead of the place we'd go." Interesting. But I think that's one of the things that Billich will use to motivate him. But also, he's not going to get anything other than good women and things. And also, what I think and what I hope is that it's going to be... I genuinely think it's going to be two teams and two manors who's just trying to... Go for it. It could be really good. Yeah, it could be really good. I'm really looking forward to it. Good stuff. Well, also, I'll be ready for it after the... With a break. ...of the nonsense of... Well, there we go. There we go. If you ain't done the Monday or whatever it is... Monday or whatever. We don't see anything as well. Quite a few people. I don't know how many times Roy Holzer has been to see Palace play. Yeah, is there on Saturday, wasn't it again? Was he? Yeah. Well, because I think... I think it's got Dan Zahar punching the role players that could expect to be in the England squad. They should be. I'm not that fast about Dan not playing. I think we're going to get into it. No, no, no. It's been a good break. But that's the next level of... That's the next level of recognition. That's the next level of recognition. Exactly. Because in that... See, that's what we had in the past and we had in the past. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we'll find your client wouldn't have gotten in the England team. Exactly. Exactly. So I think, again, that is one of those things. Well, that will be another indication that we've set up a level where these... Well, there will be no Palace players in England team. And there'll be no pod during the week because we're going to take a break for international football, but we're back after the West Ham. Are you doing international pod? No, never. I refuse to do international football pods during the break. But we'll be back after West Ham. So, chap, thanks for joining us. Thank you for inviting us. And we just... just for my own... 3 o'clock kick off, is it? I think so. I don't... Because I got home... I got home very late. Yeah. I got home very late on the Friday night and I'd had a couple of drinks. And it's lucky that when I switched to TV off in the morning, it was on Sky Sports because I wouldn't have turned up for the game until... I would have been in the pub at 1 o'clock. Yeah, I'd know I'd do it at 12 o'clock. It is a 3 o'clock kick off. There you go. I love it. It's great. It's great. Go back to normal Saturday regimes. Listeners, thank you very much for listening. We'll see you after West Ham. So goodbye. Bye. Bye. ♪♪ It's time to get your checking account to zero with 3 checking from PenFet. That's zero ATM fees, zero balance requirements, and zero time spent waiting for your paycheck to direct deposit. Because you can receive it up to two days early. Open your account with just $25 and see how big zero can be. Apply online today at penfed.org/freechecking. Early direct deposit eligibility may vary between pay periods and timing of payers funding. 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A great win for Palace against West Brom so Jim, James and Kevin are back to look over the 2-0 win at Selhurst. They also preview the visit of West Ham.
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