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Give yourself permission to snack and pick up Skinny Pop Original Popcorn today. It's time to get your checking account to zero with free checking from PenFad. That's zero ATM fees, zero balance requirements, and zero time spent waiting for your paycheck to direct a deposit. Because you can receive it up to two days early. Open your account with just $25 and see how big zero can be. Apply online today at penfed.org/freechecking. Early direct deposit eligibility may vary between pay periods and timing of payers funding. To receive any advertised product, you must become a member of PenFad, insured by NCUA. # PenFad has got great rates for everyone... # Hello and welcome to the Fovey Plan. Fovey Plan. Fovey Plan. Fovey Plan. Fovey Plan. Nice pod, 148. Wow. Nearly at the big one. Nearly at the big one. Nearly at the big what? A 150. 150. Wow. That's coming up in a few weeks. Anyway, this is 148. I'm Jim Daly. Back in the presenters' chair, I was in the guest chair last week. Oh, really? It was like the other side of the microphone. And it was good. It was fun. Anyway, I'm back presenting and I've got two of regular, regular people. First of them is Rob Sutherland. Hello. Who was hosting last week? It was a bit weird now being on the other side. Thank you for being here, Rob. And welcoming back. It feels like ages since he's been on the pod, but he's here. James Endicott. Hello. Hello. How are you doing? I'm very relaxed. Actually, I'm fantastic. Where have you been doing? What have you been doing? Well, since the end of last season, I have been pretty much going on the country in a tent watching bands. Okay, cool. going festivals. It's sort of my job and my hobby. I've had a great time. But as with every season, I've missed, I've not seen Palace Play live yet. I've not been at the ground yet. So maybe some strangers in my season ticket spot might see the seats, but yes, I've just been doing that. I've just been wandering around the country watching bands getting wet in a tent. Any particular bands you've seen that have been put apart from the ones you managed, but any other particular bands you can recommend? Nope. Not on any at all. Really? No, because they're all blurs. They're all blurs. No nights of excess, good band blurs. Really? Okay. No, they're not actually rubbish. No, I think they're rubbish. No, okay. Can we start that role? Can we talk about football or not bands? Okay. Before we do that, we want to introduce our sponsors. Yes. Yes, yes. I'm looking forward to this. Here we go. We've got a new sponsor for this season, which is JCIS, JC Innovation and Strategy, the Global Research and Brand Consultancy from South London. South London. JCIS. JCIS, yes. Wow. This is JC-IS.com and on the previous pods, we've been saying stuff like bigger than Jesus Christ. And this week I'm going to go with more entertaining than Jimmy Carr. Oh. Well, let me feel that's a new, all right. A better voice than Jarvis Cocker. Oh. There you go. Oh, yeah. More camp than Julian Cleary. Oh. Very good. I like this. You can just do this over the pods. Let's just do that. I like it. I like it. So there you go. JCIS, we welcome them to the FIPA family. Thank goodness. Thank goodness for all your printer embroidery needs. Yeah, exactly. Go to vector.co.uk. Go to UK. That's vector with her. Rob? I can't remember. It's been so long since I've been here. You're long. I can't remember. I can't remember. Vector with you. I don't know, Rob. Can't remember. It's vector with a K. It is. Oh, with a K. Hold on. Enders, you're doing so well. I know. I know. I know. Well, you know, it's hard. It's now after season, summer, season, whatever. It is. Can I ask you both a question? Of course you can. We're putting this in. Because I've been reading a few reports, but not seeing anything really about parts. Are we doing okay? Are we good? Are we doing okay? We're only planning second in the league. Secondly, what? In the Premier League. Second in the Premier League? Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Champions. Are you pulling my leg? We just beat the champions. Are you pulling my leg? Where are you? Are you pulling my leg? Are we in the second? I love it. I love it when enders come back from summer holidays. I know. I know. No, seriously. I heard a rumor the other day that we beat Chelsea at the Stanford Bridge. And I went, "Are you having an off?" I did. I went, "You're taking the Josie. Are you taking the Josie out, me right? Are you taking the Josie?" They're like, "No, honestly me. Endicot, we're serious to beating two on. We didn't. And it won't smash and grab. We played them off the park." We deserved it. We deserved it. Now listen, we'll come on to Chelsea later on because that deserves a big discussion. But today is deadline day. We're recording on deadline day, transfer deadline day. It's passed a couple of hours before we started doing the pod. So I thought we'd start with that because that's what people were talking about as this pod goes up. The window itself has been a good window. And Palace got their deals done early this year, which is something that they haven't done on the past. But deadline day itself saw outgoings rather than ingoing. So no one came in, but we did lose. And maybe we should spend just a few seconds to think about this. FFS. Glen Murray has departed. It's a sad day for the club. How do you guys feel about that? A lot of people on Twitter and Facebook, it was almost like an outpouring of grief because he means a lot to us, doesn't he, Glen? Yeah. I think anybody that you get from free on a free from one of your, well, from Brighton. Yeah. And then scores against them. And pretty much was one of the mainstays of the team for a few seasons. Of course it's sad to see him go. That guy's got red and blue blood. Yeah. We wish him all the best of Bournemouth. I hope he does really well. He's obviously going to score against us obviously. Obviously he's going to score against us. But you know what? I do without making a meal out of all this. I think it was his time to move on. I think, you know, looking at the score we've got now, he's a great player. He's a great player, but I think it was good fame to move on. Hopefully he's got himself a nice sort of wedgeback out of it and he'll do himself well. But yeah. We've got a three-year deal. I mean, I see where that argument will come from. And I do agree to an extent because he's 33 years old, 34, 33. And obviously he wants to be playing games. And when you get to that age, you do want to prove that you can still play. And he was probably not going to be regular for us this season. But I kind of felt like he still had a role to play. There would still be some games where you'd love Muzzah coming off the bench or Muzzah starting and doing that role up top. And I also think he had a role to play off the pitch as well. And I know we've signed Connor Wickham, but do you not think Rob that Wickham could learn a lot? And it looks like he already has, but could learn so much from someone like Glenn on the training ground. I think just very quickly with Murray, it's like seeing any goalscore relief. Like when AJ left, it was heartbreaking. And you kind of, you don't want to see that happen. But equally, I think in Murray's case, you've got to remember also that he had an entire season stolen from him by a crucial ligament injury. And he probably feels that he never really underpules and then to some extent under Warnock and, well, definitely under Warnock. And then only under Pargy did he finally get a chance. And if he's being offered the opportunity to play every single game, which, to be honest, if you're offering that to a 32-year-old, you know, good luck to him. But I'd take it. If that was me and I was Murray, I'd take it. Regarding your question, I think that Wickham could certainly have learnt a lot from him. But I'd also say that the way that Wickham's played in recent weeks, he's been a very strong holding centre forward. And he, you know, against the difficult defence at Chelsea, I think he showed enough metal to prove that he's got that ability to do what he needs to do. How does it, how does he feel it leaves us with this, with the rest of our striking options? Because there was rumours that Dwight Gail was going to go to Norwich. Apparently, Palace pulled the plug on that at the last minute. So that leaves us with Wickham and Gail and Campbell, Shamak, of course, depending on injuries. Anyone else that might be offered? I was surprised that we didn't bring anybody in today on the final deadline day, a striker. But I think there's enough, enough there. I think it's not going too much into it because I'm sure we'll do what we talk about at Chelsea game and other games. You know, we've got such a depth of talent now in the squad. They're losing one like Murray in terms of just on paper, it's not at the end of the world. But I think what you're talking about behind the scenes, maybe, you know, I'm not really thought about that, but I think you're probably right about the character. Yeah, and he's character and everything, and also he's such a fan's favourite. But, you know, what he does, it leaves a space there for somebody else to make themselves. And whether that's a colour, Wickham or a Patrick Bamford, whoever it's going to be. Or Gailie or Sacco. And here we are, we're just tripping off names of strikers, like it's... Which we've never had before, we've never had this. And they've just looked at such a great squad for a long, long time. I think it's also easy to forget that we've got players like Campbell, who he's not... He's one of those players that isn't really universally appreciated at Palace. But he scored five goals in 22 games last season. If he'd have played every single match, he'd probably be looking at about eight or nine goals. And that'd be... That's quite a decent return. Yeah, absolutely. And then you've got someone like Kelly in defence, and he's someone who can play across the back line. He's played left back, played right back, played centre back. Easily capable of taking those positions. And then obviously we've got our defensive midfielder, Sub-Jed Nack and Ledlin. I think those were two... So they were both linked with moves away as well. It looks like, unless there's any sort of late deals, because it's very confusing these days with how the window works. It shuts and then... It shuts and then goes a jog a little bit. It's a little bit of air. Exactly. And we'll shut it again. Yeah, exactly. They should be staying as well. But again, with Jed Nack, I kind of put them in the same class as Murray in that, yes, if you're being really sort of crude and looking from the outside, do you say maybe Palace are progressing quicker than those kind of players can be part of the team? Maybe we are going further than what they could offer us. But they're part of these players that brought us up from the championship. And there's a real emotional tie to players like Murray and Jed Nack, isn't there? Well, there's an emotional tie, but you know, football's not... There's a lot of... being fans, it's a very emotive thing football and it's driven on emotion. But really, as a business, when you're the manager, you're the chairman of a club like Crystal Palace, and yes, you're emotive as well, you've got to look in terms of business. And I think getting money for Glen Murray as well, I think we haven't even mentioned that, we've actually got some money for it. Four million quid for something that we've got on a free. We've got up to five, and we've got up to five, you know, that's not a bad return, you know? And I just think, you know, I think we've... sometimes you've got to let emotions... You've got to put that aside to, you know, for example, as you said earlier, I've been at a few festivals this summer, so I've not seen the team play live yet, I've seen it on TV. And Alex McCarthy in Gold has gone to that subject. We all love Julian, you know, we're all big dual fans, it's a very emotive thing. We've all... we've been sitting on the pod for the last season and a half that maybe his time was up, but he keeps defying logic and keeps being there. He's been injured, McCarthy's coming. I was watching the match that we were watching the match the day or the other day, and the fans are just all singing his name, they're singing his name. And I don't even know what this guy looks like in this singing his name, you know? Because my eyes don't work all the time, especially after I've got the festivals. You know it is, Rob. You know it's late in the morning around the campfire, and you're singing like... Smoked like that. Smoked gets in your eyes, and it starts... I mean, it's something like Brian Ferry. I'm like Brian Ferry. It's what gets in my eyes. Yeah, unfortunately, end as Kevin isn't here to acknowledge your... Well, you've never heard of Brian Ferry? I've heard of A ferry. Right, can we move on, please, talk about it for a while, and you're sure it's not Smoked or not cataracts? Ooh, that's alpha. Really? Two younger, one, one. No, but I think you're right. I think there is... It's difficult because there's an element of sentimentality with any of these things. Genak is a leader who has guided us to the promised land of the Premier League, and in the last two seasons of Premier League football, he's been an amazing character to have in the side. Murray the same. Like, he's one of those people. You know, whenever you talk, whenever you see former Palace players and current Palace players talk about characters in the side, those are the players... Yeah. Damien Delaney as well. Delaney as well. And equally, there comes a time when each of those players will move on, and, you know, that we have to move on because they're getting older and, you know, the squad has to get younger at some point. You know what? But, at least we're not sat here around this lovely round table in... Thank you. Apartments, actually. Yeah. At least we're not sat here going, "Oh, my God, we've lost these players, and who is there to replace them?" Yeah. Which has been the case... Would it have been of that? If we had lost Genak today, or ledly, or both, at one point, it looked like both were going, would you guys be panicking a bit more than we are now? You know what's funny? I saw Dan hopkin looking to co-one and say that if you'd have said last transfer window, we're selling Murray, possibly selling Genak and ledly might go as well. You'd have had a heart attack at that point, wouldn't you? A bit meltdown. It would have been a... Maybe not a heart attack, but I might have had a bit of a flutter. Well, yeah. In my heart. Politicians. Yeah. Well, there would have been a... I wouldn't have been happy. I would not have been happy. I would not have been happy. But equally... But now... The transfer window prior to these moves, potential moves, we've had such a good window. Like, Cabay is a brilliant signing. McCarthy's already proving himself to be capable. Sack-o. Sack-o's. Sack-o's. You know, I think Banford will come good in time. They'll come one or two games maybe at some point this season where we'll end up seeing him as a surprise inclusion. It's just going to take time. But players like Genak and players like ledly, I think ledly is a bit younger than Genak. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Genak will at some point move on and, I guess, and same with Julian's brainer. He might end up retiring sooner or later. I guess it's also an argument that these new players that have come in, certainly Sack-o, there's something about him, could become these emotional players that we have ties to, these sort of legends. Because Genak's become part of that almost embodies Palace as a team right now, but yes, we're progressing further than that. But Cabay could become that. Cabay could be easily become a cult hero, so could Sack-o. The thing that part you stressed, but when he signed Cabay, and I think Keith Millen has also reinforced this, is that this is a guy who is a consummate professional. So we talk about Genak with that kind of, you know, that kind of character and that belief and whatever else. Cabay is capable of being that kind of leader as well. You know, these are players, we're signing the right kind of players with the right kind of attitude. Or we're signing the right kind of players, like Wickham maybe, who's a bit younger, who have the potential to be good and with the right kind of application and the right kind of people around. He's very good Wickham. But I find it's a bit of a wanderer sometimes. Oh, it's good to have Enders back. That's what we've missed. Terrible puns. How do we feel about talking about Wickham? Would we have been disappointed with Galercon? Because we've all agreed that Galer needs games, but losing Murray was one blow. If we'd lost Galer's well, would that have been the wrong decision? It's just hard losing players full stop, isn't it, JD? You know, it's horrible losing players. I just think the more players we have in the squad that are potential first team players is better. So keeping... How do you keep players like JD? How do you keep them happy? How do you keep JD? How do you keep JD? How do you keep JD? How do you keep Ledley happy? How do you keep Galer? You keep them on their toes by you going on a Monday morning to training and go, "I don't know what my first 11 is on Saturday. I don't know what it is." And you're all up for it. Now, whether a party who knows that or whether he knows what his first 11 is going to be, I'm sure he's got a good idea. But, you know, if you're a decent man, you go and say, "Look, man, it's all up for grabs. Get on with it. This is a Premier League. We're second. We're second in the Premier League. It's only after four games, but we're flying high. We're having it. We're having it. We're having it right now. So, you know, fight for your place. And if you got me bold to fight for it, then... Fair enough. Sit on the bench. But you'd like to think that all those players will fight you, you'll fight through that, Dwight, you ought to think, "You know what? I want to be part of this team." Dwight, you ought to talk. I mean, or even Dwight Gail. I'd sound Dwight York. Well, not now, but in his prime. I was. Did I say Dwight York? Yeah. See, I can't remember who players are. I can't remember. Because I've been away so long. But all those players that you've mentioned like... I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you're listeners. When I said Dwight York, I actually went to Dwight Gail. This is your preseason pod, isn't it? Those players, they do have that character. And Pard you and Parrish talked about it before, the selection process is one where they do look for players that have got the sort of character that will blend into this already unit. So does that kind of give us confidence with the players like Wickham? We know about Kebai as well. Like, actually, they're picking the right people. It's not just a random thing. I think it's an interview process, isn't it? Like, you're not going to sign a player that just doesn't fit in at all. I think some clubs do. I think that you probably look at Sundlands and sites like that. The deadline days as well. They end up signing. Yeah, things get desperate. I think with Gail, and it's probably a case with other players as well in our side, you can't blame them for wanting to play. But equally, you've got to say to someone like Dwight, like I said last week, there will come the opportunity to get that spot. Like, you're not always going to find that McArthur will play every single game. There could be a point where we've got an international break this weekend, so what happens if McArthur gets injured? Then what happens? You bring in Ledley or you bring in Jeddonack. That is the opportunity that these players have to get in the side again, and nothing is ever guaranteed, especially when you have a squad rotation system. And I think with Gail, by all means, it's obviously, you know, it sounds like Palace turned the move down, but it could well be that Gail, the opted that, you know, I decided that it's a better opportunity to stay at Palace. For him, the key is that when we call upon him and when it's important, when it matters for him to do it, he does it. And if he does that, then there's no question that, you know, if he does it repeatedly enough, then there's no question. Which he hasn't, I mean, he's got a good record, he hasn't. I think it's part of the manager's job, and hopefully, Pardee's doing this, is to let those sort of six or seven, you see that? I think now it's like, it's almost, we're not talking about our first 11, we're talking about our first 16, 17, and it's making those, all those 16 and 17 players realise that they're all first team choices. It doesn't matter if you're not playing, you know, it's almost like, if you're not, you may not be in the side and line up, you may not, you may not be on the bench, but you are part of the first team squad. And it's making those 17, 16, 17, 18 players feel as though they're such a, much a part of it as the guys that are actually on the, on the pitch playing the game or on the bench, and it's, that's a tricky thing. And it seems like Pardee's doing that or trying to evolve that thing, by the fact that they haven't let Gale go. Yeah. And, you know, and the fact we've got Ledison, Jedi, you know, these are players who were playing not so much Gale, but the other guys were playing on a regular basis last season, you know? And how many people expected Sako to start against Chelsea, for example? You know, there were plenty of tweets saying, on Twitter saying, "Why is Sako starting?" or, you know, "Why is this the formation that we started with?" You've got to remember that these are professionals that are making these decisions. And now, in the way that the game is now, you end up with pages upon pages of reports about how a team might be weakened or, you know, what the key elements are in order to get a win. There will come times when someone like Zeddnack and someone like Ledley will have that opportunity, and someone like Gale will have that opportunity to make a difference. I guess, you know, bringing out all the football and cliches, it's a marathon and not a sprint, you know? We're four games in, you know? And us three are not getting overexcited. I'm sure the sort of fans out there are getting overexcited, already booking their tickets to go to a Barcelona next season with the Champions League. You know, well, mine's on hold, not booked it yet, but it's on hold. But, you know, but this is the way, you know, it's a marathon. And we all know there are injuries, there's lack of form, dips in form, but the fact that you just got it, the part used job and the back room staff up powers his job, and our job, all of us as fans as well, is to keep everybody buoyant. Everybody buoyant, everybody, so when everybody comes on, we're going to keep everybody by. And that's easy when they're winning games. No, but that's the skill, isn't it? It's when you're in that little slump, which we bound to have at some point. Yeah, the other thing is, part of you has shown in the last four games that we've played, that he's not afraid of making a decision at half time. In another cliche, it is a game of two halves. It is. And with that game of two halves, you end up with a girl coming on at half time, and much coming on at half time, and you end up with all these different changes that can actually shape the way that a game is going. And you've got to have options for that, and ultimately, right now. But Rob, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but isn't it exciting? I mean, come on, isn't it exciting? We've seconded the league, we've beat Chelsea. We did. We haven't even gone on about our brilliant, that was. I've got one more question before. No, I don't want to do that. We've got to be excited. One more, then we'll talk about it. I want to get excited. We'll talk about Chelsea, we'll talk about it. That is... Oh, that's really exciting. You mean that team that are getting relegated? The team that were below us, you know, you've got to beat those teams below in the table. We were linked with numerous players in the window, but one today we thought might happen was Charlie Austin, her QPR striker, who's actually stayed at QPR, been linked with, amazingly, been into 14 Premier League clubs. 14? During the transfer window. It's crazy. Which city was he not linked with? Which city, I guess? Man City, Southampton, I don't know. Would you have been happy? If we had splashed out £15 million, bear in mind what we were talking about, the options earlier, and Gully and stuff. Would you have been happy with Charlie Austin? Would he have been that man? You were saying you were a bit surprised to end this. We maybe didn't get a big name on top. Would he have been that guy? I mean, if you listen back to the pods, I'm not a massive fan of Charlie Austin. I think he's a great player. I think he did well at QPR. He's going to play a bit. He's no different to Connor Wickham. He's no different to Glenn Murray's. They're all in the same mold. Yes, of course, they've all got their plazas and their minuses. But he's nothing different really to me in that mold. And I think if you were going to go and get somebody a striker, which I thought we may have done, it would have been somebody maybe a little bit more left to send it than that. Don't ask me any names because I can't remember. Obviously, I don't know anything. It's terrible. I'm just talking I probably... You know plenty. I'm talking I probably haven't talked about facts. If you listen back, I don't actually name it, don't know any facts. I'm talking... It's more like sort of poetry with Endicottos. It's more about the names he doesn't say. It's more about the names he doesn't say. Thank you. Thank you after 148 odds. It's finally getting you. It's what I don't say. Thank you. It's a long game. Yeah. I think that you've got a player who is in his last year of his contract and QPR looking for 15 million. And it's just it's... No matter what anyone says, that's just completely unrealistic. For like, Palace, I think we had an opportunity to get Baffetimbi Gomi last season for about nine million. And Austin is a very good... I think he's actually... He's quite a good goalscore. Yeah. He's done it at every level, but for 15 million. And then... And bear in mind, we're talking Premier League wages. So you're talking probably 50 to about 100 grand a week. Yeah. Like, that's a lot of money again. And what are you actually going to get? Like, okay. So I can understand that there's goals in return, but bear in mind the way that we play. So I think I said this last week that you've got... At QPR, he was their key player. He's like the point of contact for every attack that they had. Everything goes into him. At Palace, you have Wickham, who's serving up... Serving up Balassie, or serving up Sacco, or serving up Wilfred, or serving up Punchin. And then you've got the attacking midfielders in the hole behind that. There are too many options for us. And I think that if you end up bringing in someone like Charlie Austin, you're basically saying we're going to spend 15 million pounds on this player. We're going to spend X million on his wages. And there's no guarantee that he's going to score the goals that he did at QPR, because our systems are entirely different, and the focus is entirely different. You know, as Pardieu said, that he wants the wingers to score goals. So if you want the wingers to score goals, then the chances for a centre forward are going to be reduced. So in that regard... Is that not the argument, though, that the gale, as well, doesn't fit into our mould? Because gale is very dull, one director. I think we're really harking back to... By talking about Austin as being the man to score the goals, we're kind of harking back to an era where an era that doesn't exist unless you're someone like Suarez or Guero. We're talking about the elite of the elite, Sanchez as well. These kind of elite players, is Austin one of those? Oh, no, obviously. Let me think for a nanosecond. No. But that's exactly. So who do you compare Austin to? You compare him to someone like Andy Johnson and the reason why Andy Johnson scored the number of goals he did for Palace in the season that we had with him, where he scored 20 goals, I think it was in the Premier League. The reason why he scored the number of goals that he did is because he was our focal point. He was everything that we went through. Palace went to him. That was everything that mattered and the same happened for Austin. That's why I think it's not just Palace that didn't sign him, but it's other clubs in the Premier League. Funny you mentioned Baffertimmy Gomez there for 9 million. Judging by the form he's had in the start of this season, that would have been an absolute bargain, I think. He's done very well. Do you think he would have done well in that roll-up top for us? He can fit in at Swansea, can't he? And Swansea playing a similar way to we did. I actually do think he would have fit in Palace. He's not here, so. Well, he's not. No, but I like to plug him. I'm a little frog in my throat, actually. I have the technicals. Maybe it's a toad, I'm not sure. Anyway, let's move on. From the festival. Okay, let's move on to Chelsea game then, which I know you're desperate to talk about enders, because it was an incredible result. I mean, arguably our best ever Premier League result. We've never gone to, we've never ever in the Premier League, so a post-92, gone to the Premier League champions, the season after they were champions, and won. So that's a record right there. It's a fact against Chelsea and it's Mourinho. It was his 100th game. The home game in the Premier League and they don't know us once. It was the second game. All the stats. And the fact that Alan Pard had already beaten him twice, the Newcastle manager, and all these mad stats, you know, and you looked it on a piece of paper and anybody apart from a Palace family gone, it's obviously Chelsea, but we're on you. There was a bit of a chance there. There was no John Terry. There's a little bit of a dipping fall for Chelsea. They don't seem to be operating on all cylinders at the moment. I mean, they're always going to do well because they're a good team, let's be honest. And he is a great manager. But it was there. And you know what? And watching match the day and they were entering Delaney afterwards. And what he was basically what he was saying is that we've been here a couple of times recently and we've gone in there. And this time we just thought, let's go there and have a go. Yeah. Let's have a go. And I think that's the thing that Pard's got into place. Go and have a go. You're as good as anybody now. You're as good as anybody. Just go and have a go and just get in there and fight. And that's what they did. And I thought Delaney's performance. He's just highlighted on match the day and everybody's talking about it. But Delaney... Well, it was a matter of match, wasn't it? It was mind-blowing. I mean, and I will hold my hands up. I've not been as big as fan over the last couple of seasons. You know, not to be negative about Delaney, but I've always thought he's a bit of a clogged rule. But it's performance. He had Costa in his pocket. Yeah. He took the piss. Yeah. It was amazing. It was brilliant. There was a lovely moment where Costa is quite an aggressive. Quite an aggressive. Yeah, I love Costa. He's brilliant because I love that. He's very much an old-fashioned English-type player, Costa. Exactly. He's eagles and he fights. He's a busy. He's always arguing. Shout to him. But there was a bit. He's a sort of player that everybody, if he's not in your team, you hate him. Of course. And you love him if he's on your team. Of course, yeah. But that was a great bit on match the day they analyzed it, where Costa tried to, I think, win in late on day mode. It's that kind of gamesmanship, isn't it, early on, like, who can get one over. Yeah. And then Deimo came back with a header and then he went straight through the bathroom, to get the header and then he just saw Costa's shoulders go down. And he thought Deimo's got this. He's got him. He's got him. But it was Rob. It wasn't just a, it wasn't a smash and grab. It wasn't Palace Chance. They're like, "Palice, genuinely deserved to get something from that game." It's one of those games where, like when we beat Manchester City last season, where Punchon was in just complete control. He's one of those players that can just glide around. It's crazy that he's gone from being a winger where you feed him the ball and hope that he beats his man and puts across it, to being a midfielder who just has such control of possession. Yeah, brilliant. But we do that. We now seem to be doing that across the park. All our players are getting the ball and looking to play it. And sometimes, in some of our home games, against filler at times, that did lead to examples where you think, "Just get rid of it. Don't play it around there." But clearly, they're being told to do this. And there's a confidence in the team that we haven't had before. You know, I think that we, after the Arsenal defeat, Paji said, "Look at the way that Arsenal play. Look at how they hold the ball. You can do this. Let's work on this." And since then, there's been so much more focus on just holding, like keeping the ball and doing a simple thing, and then working your way up the field and getting there. There was that great bit towards the end of the Chelsea game, which they highlight actually on much of the day. When Pulasti got the ball on the left wing towards their touchline, it was just taking the making. They were all sat down. But you know what, to have that swagger at such an early stage as he is, yes, you can overplay swagger. And I'm sure Pulasti will get caught out as he's done in the past, and you always get caught out of venture. But just to see your team against the champions, having the balls to just take the making like that was brilliant to watch. It's such a Chelsea captain as well at that point. That swagger is in, what's the word I'm looking for? In spades, isn't it? It's everywhere. It's going through the whole club from the very top, from Parrish, who's all the way down, and there's a bit of swagger about the club. But as Palace fans, we know that we're all wary. We're all aware that we could now go on a run of ten games without winning, but it's not going to happen. But we're all wary of the pitfalls, but we're also loving it. And I think we've got to enjoy it, we've all got to enjoy it. And I'll tell you what, the next... I mean, I know we'll talk about this later on, I'm going to mention it anyway. The next home game, top of the table clash. Top of the title clash. It's a six pointer. We've played Man City, and it's a six pointer. Brilliant. It is crazy, but you're absolutely right. And as we have got to enjoy it, we've got to enjoy it. I mean, we're all being quite serious on here. I'm sure people who subscribe to this podcast, and listen to it, want to hear people talking about Palace. But you tell me that every single one of those people listen to this podcast, not right now, and not inside. They've got the... Yes! Yes! We're having... we are having it! Come on, that's what I've... We're also... We are, but we're not... We're not... Chancing it. Palace... Palace deserved... I mean, Palace is concerned. I've never said this ever out loud, especially not on a podcast. Palace deserved to be second in the table. I mean, yes, we're only four games in, you know, yes. Most people don't look at the table till about ten sort of games or something. So, you know, Palace... It's just all going so well right now, isn't it? Ridiculous. It doesn't make sense. I was saying to enders before we recorded the pod. Like, I went to the FA Cup game where we beat Liverpool 2-1 at Anfield. And I remember just thinking, this is probably the best it'll get. Like, in terms of just... I think it was 3-1-10 when Freeman scored. I think we've got some time. Julian Gray, yeah, Freeman got sent off. That's £2, maybe. Yeah. Like, quite a long time ago. £13,000. Yeah, you... But, like, those kind of moments are the ones or where you beat Brighton in the playoff semi. You genuinely think, this is it. This is the best it'll get. Anything after this is a bonus. But, like, we're now at a point where this bonus is ending up turning into millions of pounds worth a bonus. And it's kind of concerning. But, you know what, Rob, what's the great thing about it is, and I think all the listeners will agree, we're playing good football. Yeah. It's not like we're four games in and we've got nine points. We think, you know, we've done all right. We're a bit lucky now. No, absolutely not. And even the game we lost. And that's the weird thing. You know, it was a game we lost, we could have won. But you end up, you look at it and you think, we're playing, like, we're playing good football in the Premier League with, in fairness, a squad that ended up in the majority game promoted. Like, you know, or, you know, players that probably people wouldn't think of playing football in science. And end of last season, yes, now, with this window, we're noticing that actually those players are unfortunately going. And I guess that was kind of... Oh, then I'm getting in the team. Because we are. And I guess that was kind of the theme of... What do you think? We are progressing. It'd be quite interesting to look, obviously, we haven't done our research as normal. But looking at the last team that played in the championship against the team that started against Chelsea, I would imagine there's not many of the same players. I think... What do you think, though? We're not many. We're not many. Would you think that the pinnacle of our football playing side would be someone like Jason Punchin, though? Like, would you actually think, like, especially when we signed him and over the last two seasons, would you genuinely... We'd have hoped it. We'd have hoped it. You know his ability. He is one of us. Yeah. And he is one of our own. But, I mean, what is that down to? Is that down to the fact the party has been pushing this more expansive style? And at times, you know, to our detriment, but he's been persisting with it. Or is it down to the fact that we've got someone like Kobi, you know, and maybe he's in for the spreading? But there is. But I think they even did that. I think they're both linked. I think those both of us coming to linked. I think you've got a party who's playing that. He's almost saying, go out there and play. You've all got talent. Just go out and play. Obviously, he's not saying that. There's methods to his madness. But they're playing this wild abandon, like they're just like the kids on the... On the... On the... On the... Park on a Saturday afternoon. You know what I mean? Yeah. But also, there's methods behind the madness. It's worth watching the season review DVD from last season, where Pange basically explains it. Well, I'm sure the club will send me a free one. Yes. Thank you very much. Thank you, please. I don't think they will. I don't think they will. No, I think they will. But in this DVD... This is an advert of Crystal Passes for what club is it? We're being very positive right now. So, yeah, they should definitely send us a free DVD. My address is Twitter. You put it on Twitter. The thing is, in that DVD, I said it last week, he basically says that the players had to learn a system. And then after that, he was allowing them to kind of do their own thing in that. So, we basically built a structure. And as long as the players stick to that structure and stick to the main parts of that, so the defensive kind of unity, the amount of effort that's required, you allow players like Punchham to actually dictate the way the game is played. And he did it against Punchham to City and he did it against Chelsea, against the midfield. You're looking at players that are worth £20, £40 million. And this is a guy that we signed for £2 million, was it, from Southampton after half a season on loan? And making those players like Pedro and Fabregast and Rebecca look very average. And also Punchham in that game was playing out wide. And we all said last season, no, Punchham's got to be in the middle. He's got to be playing in at number 10 or deeper. But actually, he's showing that he, I mean, well, that's down to a party or to Punchham kind of working hard, but he's played out wide and was still as influential as he can be in the middle. He is, he is an unsung hero, Punchham. I mean, I say that. I say that obviously within the Palace fans, the people is at this part, he's not unsung. But I think outside of the club, I think people look in the club and he's very rarely an end that people will mention. So they'll mention you Wilson, you're Blasses. They're good for your highlight, really. But Punchham. Should have been with the England squad this week and there was no Palace players. Scott Dam has overlooked. You know what? You know what? That squad, it's just, it's just like a stupid old man's club, isn't it? Right, if you're not in one of these 14, it's just, well, there are some in a Jamie Vardy's in there, so he goes through some. Why don't I finish the Hodgson? He's had a lot of Hodgson, that's right next to me. I didn't know you were related. No. I just think that I think that his job is to pick a squad, right? I'm not just a squad player. I'm listening, by the way, I'm not following a team. To create a team. So what you do is you pick as many of the same players as you can on the basis that they performed well together throughout the qualifier so far. What you then do. On that basis, why is he not picking Terry Butcher, Gary Lineker, or Paul Gasparin? I do understand that, but I would say that the time to pick players that you're not expecting to pick is for friendlies, and at the moment we've got two competitive matches and he's going to stick with the players that he knows. Okay. As all for as that is... I bow to your superior knowledge, Rob. Well, to be honest, the idea... Because you're Scottish, aren't you? Well, okay, I'll show you a little bit there. The ideal thing we want is... Oh, neutrality! The ideal thing we want is... For Paul is to continue playing like this, and when the next squad comes around for friendlies, I'm assuming, then Hodgson will maybe divert from his current thing. And punching and Dan and players will get the recognition, because they've been fantastic. Yeah, I'll be fantastic. Of course, we great to have powers players playing for England. We've got a lot of other internationals in the team. Exactly. We're Welsh internationals and all sort of Scottish internationals. Have we still got Scottish internationals? Yeah. Well, balance left. Balance left. We can't, though. We should be playing this weekend. We are not a team devoured of international players. We don't have any English ones. But, you know, of course, it'd be great. You know, I remember back in the day when we had Andy Gray, Jeff Thomas, you know... Yes, yeah. Was he in right? I don't know. But whatever. You know, we had them. It was great. Shall we wrap up then, Paul? Why? This part? I've been enjoying it. Well, because we've got other stuff. We've got questions and stuff. You can talk about it. Hold it. You go first. There's only one toilet here. Well, that's where I said he'd go first. I mean, he said... Hold it, because... I'm going to hold it because I want to go. Hold it because... Let's talk about two players quickly from Chelsea. Now, everyone had a great game. It was a great performance throughout the team. Alex McCarthy in goal. Brilliant. Is he now on number one, regardless of Joel's injury? I think we were having this conversation before the... before you came back from your 18-hour day down the mind. It's been a long day. Joel's has injured. I've not been to a game. I've not seen McCarthy, but I did notice watching match the day and seeing the dodgy live stream was a... the fans are all shouting his name, you know, and screaming his name. And from what Rob was saying earlier on, he's playing really well. You know, Joel's as a hero, of course he is. But if McCarthy's playing better, he should be in the team. You know, outgo sentimentality when you're sitting in the league, mate. I'm not sentimentality. People who know me know that I'm completely biased. I love Julian's brainache. But on current form. And this is what happens as a goal. You lose your spot. It's about taking the opportunity when it comes. And unfortunately for Julian now, he's going to have... he's going to have to rely on something going wrong for Alex McCarthy for him to take his spot back. Had he started the season fully fit, I think he might have started. And then it would be in a case of either Hennessy or McCarthy taking the spot. But right now, Sir McCarthy's doing such a great job that you can't drop him. You can't drop someone like that. He's done brilliantly. Once again though, isn't it great for a battle for places? Absolutely. Even if it's just number one, number one's very important. But it's great to have a battle for places. And finally then, another player that was brought in, possibly to battle for places, but it's done very well. Two goals in two games and an assist against Chelsea. It's Baccary Sacker. We got on a free transfer from Wolves. And he got the chance to play against Phillip because unfortunately, his father passed away. And of course we all passed on our condolences to Y'all and his family. But Sacker took his chance and as a result played against Chelsea and is looking like an absolute steal. But it's exactly what Rob's just been saying about McCarthy. And this is what's so great about having a squad is that you get given a chance. Even if it's through horrible circumstances like Sacker did, whatever, you get a chance and you go in there and you take it. That's exactly what Sacker has done. And you know what? If he's on a fight, keep him in there. And as soon as you have a little dip in form, then somebody else, then maybe Dwight Gayle will come in. And then it's his chance to, that's what you've got to do. You can't give two or three games to bed in anymore. You can't because we're second in the league and we're going to keep that performance up. And we've got to ride that. We've got to ride the wave of success. Ride it like a surfer. Good. Okay. We wrap up now, please. I really don't have to worry. Well, look, listen, that's the end of part one. In part two, we've got questions from listeners. So I'll see you in a bit. Hello, and welcome back to the Five Year Plan podcast. Hooray! Pod 148 sponsored by JC Innovation Strategy, the Global Branding Consultant from South London. Wow. I'm relieved, aren't you? I'm very relieved by the real relief. And also, vector printing for your print and embroidery needs. Go to vector.co.uk Wow. And that's vector with a... Okay. I reckon, I reckon okay. There you go. Okay, so questions from our listeners. We've got loads of questions. A lot of them are transfer themed. Given that today, we are recording is, then one day, the first question comes from Nick. Nick Paddywack. Hello, that's an interesting name, Nick Nick. Give that dog a bang. And he says, "Was there any truth in the rumour that Endicott requested and moved to whole radio?" Whole radio? Yeah. Whole. Whole. Oh, that's a long way away. No truth, and it's at all. No? A little bit. Whole is technically in Yorkshire, so... Yeah, that's what I thought. That's where I was at. On the side, aren't they? Yeah, there's a lot further east than where I was at. I'm West Yorkshire, so they're sort of York's, Lang's border. Yeah. But whole radio, do they do a radio station? I'm still lying, yeah. They've never heard of it. Yeah, they're recording right now, apparently. Yeah, they've very... It's a very good podcast and radio. I'm sure it is. I'm sure it's brilliant, yeah. We've heard of it. No. I'm back. I'm back in Denim. I'm back in Denim. Back in Denim. Okay, good. No, that's weird. We're going Denim jeans. Good song. Our next question is from Cornelius Self. Oh, I like it. Yeah. Is that a reference or something? No idea, but I still like it. I like it. And Cornelius says, is that a question for the panel? We're a panel again. I like it. Was Deimo's performance against Chelsea a one-off? And if so, and if not, do we still need another centre-back? I don't think it was a one-off. I think it's been growing into that performance over the last few games, over the last half of last season. Yeah. As I said, in the first part of the pod, I was, you know, I think we've, on the pod of the last season, we had our moments where we doubted Delaney, you know, he's not great. He's distributed a lot of the times, sometimes a little bit slow. But I think, you know, that performance against Chelsea, I think was him building up to it. And I think the amount of love and respect, especially respect from his peers and the media, he's had from that, will serve him. He will not want to dip from that form at all. Yeah. And, you know, he's, he's really shown his true, his true red and blue colour. He continues to impress. Every time we think, oh, Deimo might be done, he pulls a performance of that on the bag. You know what? You know what? He's, he's had two seasons of thoroughly decent performances. And, and people say, oh, you know, he's, he's prime to errors. You know, it's completely human to be, to, to make mistakes, isn't it? It is. Like, if we were all, I was looking back at my life. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Even as a professional footballer. You should have gone to whole radio where they go. You thought, that was a big mistake. I made the Transware deadline do it. Unbelievable. Anyway, sorry, go on, carry on. Even as a footballer, you make mistakes. And, and, and Damien Delaney's case, I would argue that he's probably made, he's probably made less mistakes than he's made brilliant performances over the last two, two and, two and a bit seasons. And, and people should give him a little bit more respect, to be honest. Rob Sutherland, the voice of reason. I think that's, I think you're absolutely right. I think you're right. I think you're a really reasonable thing to say, I think. Because let's, if you want robots, you can watch, like, robot wars or whatever, where, you know, it's, it's, it's. But the thing is, you're not, the only way that you have, like, linear performances, where everyone plays the same way, is on a computer game. But even then they have to create, like, random moments of something going wrong. That's why football manager is the game that it is. Because if you wanted everyone to play the same way, then you, you, you, you get bored with it really quickly. Which is why players make mistakes as part of the game. And that's why Chelsea ended up losing. Exactly. Because they made mistakes that ended up, that we ended up exploiting. So I think Delaney deserves a little bit more respect, because, to be honest, he's. I think he's got respect. He's got it. In fact, I don't, you won't not give him respect, because he's pretty hard. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It costs, it costs a hard time. It costs a hard time. Deimo is not, he's not perfect. But then, you know, nobody is. None of our players are. And they'll come, again, they'll come a time when he'll be replaced. And, and so be it. But right now, he's probably the better, one of the better defenders that we've got. Absolutely. And he can, a great partnership. And it's difficult to ignore him when he is making those brilliant performances. So fair play to him. It's a good question. Absolutely. And also, I don't know if you said it earlier, but for me, man of the match, I'm starting against just by some way. And that is, what does he say? Mom, on mom. And that is, in a team where a lot of them were fantastic as well. So, you know, that says a lot. Next question then is from Martin Patrick. Hi, Martin Patrick. He says, are we, are the panel? Oh, everyone thinks we're a panel tonight, brilliant. About being a panel. Are the panel at all concerned with McCarthy's near post keeping? It seems to be his wake area. A little bit harsh, I thought. I actually thought. I'll tell you, actually, it's interesting to say that because Falkar's header was a very good header. Yes. It was an excellent ball. But it was near post. It was near post. But what was interesting was McCarthy's reaction. He seemed frustrated. He sort of threw his hands up in the air. As if to say, like, oh, I definitely should have saved that. And looking back on the replays, you know, yeah, you don't even beat on the near post. But they're a very, very good header. But to me, it shows that McCarthy is setting himself high standards. If he wants to be saving old standards. As Rob was saying, not a minute or so ago, we're not all perfect. And some of us make mistakes. Well, you know what, Rob? I actually think I've been 50 years on this earth. And you've really changed the way I'm looking at life right now. Thank you. You've made me realize that people can make mistakes. People can't fall down and they can stand back. I've made it. I didn't realize that. I've made many mistakes. I wasn't going to say anything. But, you know, I'm just saying, you've really changed the way I think about things. I think McCarthy lets you make a few mistakes. Let them all make a few mistakes. Just as long as it doesn't happen all the time, Jamie. I think it's also a bit unfair. You may think I'm being flippant, but I'm not. Well, it's difficult to know whether you're being fear or something. I think it's also a bit unfair to have a go at McCarthy for that. Because that header, so the cross was damn good. And then the header was a thumping header. And at that point, you probably think he's not going to make it. And he did. And you're not going to, you can't expect McCarthy to save a shot like that. Because then he'd end up being one of the best goalkeepers in the world, which is just unrealistic at the moment. Like, he could well be. Who knows? But it's unrealistic. And the same thing goes for... I think... It's very, very harsh of the question. Martin, that was... Yeah. Martin, a little harsh, Martin. Yeah. I mean, the goal against Aston Villa was a deflection. And again, you could probably say, "Well, maybe you should have better." Well, it was a known goal, wasn't it? Yeah. Endicott was saying that yes, people fall down and will let them stand up. Isn't it actually how you stand up? Yes. And a lot of these palace players, Delaney, especially, but also players like Jeddonack, have shown that actually their strength comes in the way they respond to having bad performances. One of Enda's favourite songs, "I Get Not Down", that I get up with. I'll get up again, yeah. You're never going to keep me down. Chumba Wumba. That, yeah. Yeah. It's not one of her songs, but I see what you're saying, Rob. Don't flumb me with that Chumba Wumba lot. OK. Yeah. Exactly. No, that's the attitude. Look, I am a father of three, and one of the lessons you give young people you bring into this world is it's not... You can fall out, you can fail. It's about how you react to it. Yeah. And then what Palace is showing, all joking aside, is that how they're reacting to it. And that just shows the great strength of going through the squad, and it goes to the chairman, the manager. I've said it before, all the way through it. There's a Colston screw in there there, so it does make him stay at line and call for the near post, and we've got to get on with it. It's all right. Well, we've been doing that for three years. This team has been doing that for three years, falling down and then getting up stronger. And it's proving. It's proving. And it's paying its dividends. I wish that was the end of part two, because that'd be a brilliant end to part, but we've got more questions to come from our listeners. So the next one comes from CPFC Tony. Nice one, Tony. So... He says, "I'm sad that Glenn Murray is gone. We all want to talk to him." Oh, yeah. Do you think he'll bag a hat trick on Boxing Day? Yes, very likely. Probably will. He won't get a hat trick, but he'll probably score. That's fine. Just loads of beat them. The cherries. And on the theme of players departing, Jack Pierce. Hi, Jack. Hi, Jack. One of our FRP writers for our website has said, "Which palace player and leaving caused you the most upset?" He's also about J.D. You can't say Matt Janssen, so I'm not allowed to say. Oh, you're talking in history? In history, yeah. Not in this window. Oh, I was thinking of this window. Although, I would say, Matt Janssen probably. All Mark Edworthy. I was very disappointed in him. We are not Edworthy. 13. Very good. It's always one of my favourite comments. Anyone else that, when they left, boys that made you kind of feel as sad as we have done with Glenn in this window? I felt really sad when Akiwil arty left. And it's kind of a weird one because he hadn't really played that season that much because I think he'd been injured for a long part. But I still felt like it was just a bit of a change of an era. I think Michael Hughes left around the same time. And it was like the midfield pairing that we had that got us promoted, and that had put so much effort in, just kind of fell by the wayside. And then things just didn't get any better from the anonymous struggle to get. I remember being sad when Ian Wright left. Yeah. Because it's just that partnership with Bright. I mean, I know it's well documented and all past funds know it. But seeing those two together and seeing how we were just working so well as a team and did so well and just seeing one of the big boys. This is probably pre-premially as well. You see one of the big boys coming in and snapping one of them up. It's always sad when AJ left. I guess it's always sad when players. I think it's sad when it's a goalscorer as well. It is a community. They're the people that you put all that focus on. It's going to score the goals. And then the minute that he leaves, they're special breed of player. And so you do end up missing them a lot more. But it's also the goalscorer that when they come from another club. And Glenn Murray is another great example, coming from a rival and then scoring. It's all forgotten in an instant, isn't it? Clean to Morrison. I was gutted when he went to Birmingham. Clean to know Morrison. What he's like, isn't he? But I was gutted. It's again, I think, strikers are typically the players you missed. But also, we seem like Palace fans are an emotional bunch. And we attach ourselves to players. I mean, players become court heroes quite quickly and perhaps, don't they? Within 45 minutes. We fall in love, don't we, Palace? Well, look, I haven't seen a game that this season. It's my first part of the season. But already there's about three court players to the Palace. I've never even seen play. I don't know what's going on. I don't even know what's going on from the cold. We do, don't we? And that's why, when they go, it talks to the heart. Glenn Murray, that you think that song, you know, that scoring goals for Palace. For Palace Glenn Murray, it's going to be sad not singing that again. Wembley, obviously, he was injured with the Cruciate ligament. And seeing him with his crutches sitting down with the playoff trophy. And half of Wembley singing scoring goals for Palace Glenn Murray. I mean, that was an incredibly emotional moment. And we all wanted him to get better so we could all see him score a goal in the Premier League. And then when he did, it was just, it's always been, it's a special relationship with players like that. I think Palace have a tendency to get that. They do, yeah. Very good question. Next one's from Oliver Moss. Hi, Oliver. Moss. Oliver says, "Has the international break come at a good time for Palace? Well deserved rest, or is it interrupting on momentum?" I think it's good to get ready for the top of the table clash, because it's a real six-pointer. I think it's good time to focus on that game. Because I think this is where, this is where dreams are going to be made. It's like the scene before Rocky, you know, the kind of cutscene where you're doing with the training in there. Come on, Tage. Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah. You know what? International break, shh, international break, whatever. I'm not a fan of international break. You're not a fan. I know we have to have to watch. Are we actually playing? I really don't actually play. Yeah, two qualifiers. Oh, we're playing Marina. San Marino and someone else. Oh, looking forward to that, yeah, yeah. And who else? No idea. Absolute bobbins. It's just Karen with the Premier League or whatever, the League. You know, let's just come with that. Let's go ahead and say international football. Well, Mark Skein says a question about the city. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I've been supporting England since I was a child man and wife. I'm Scottish and my brother and father. My Welsh president. Whatever. Do you know what I mean? What was that? I don't know. I'm just having a bit of a rant. Okay. Mark, let's get away from internationals. Mark Skeins. Hi, Mark. Hey, Mark. Hey, Mark says, "If we lose the city, are we out of the total race? If so?" If so. If so. Yeah, exactly. If we lose the city, if we beat them, then we're right in there. Good question. It feels weird saying any answers. It's a ridiculous question, of course. He's only having a child. He is, actually. But it isn't, actually, hasn't the city game always become a free, not a freebie? Because obviously we approach every game very seriously. But if we don't win, it doesn't matter. Against the team that are probably going to be Premier League. I think it's about the manner of the defeat. If we lose. The manner of the win, if we win. It's all about. Okay. It's not just the results driven game. It's not about falling down. It's about how you go. It's been a good pod. We'll walk on to the city in part three. Let's crack on some more questions. Kevin T. Hi, Kevin. Hello. Our friend, Kev. He says, "Now, Enders, you've missed a few. Since you've been away, we've had quite a lot of... I was away for a bit, and Kevin has been away in Edinburgh. We've had a bit of a squad rotation. I don't know if you've noticed, but quite a few Mike Wicks has come in. Kevin says, "How do the older pre-promotional panel members, which is, I think, is you and me feeling now that the stronger podcasters have been brought into the team?" Wow. I feel a bit like Glen Murray, actually. That's how I feel. You have to go to hell. All right. I'm going to go to a hole with Steve Bruce next week. See you later, guys. It was great. It lasted, thanks for all the kind words on the pod. I really enjoyed it, but I'm going to my real home in Hull and Steve Bruce. Because they've been offing for three years. They've been offing for the last action. No matter what. I am going on a freebie, but I've been offing every week. They're taking it. I'm taking it. Progressive radio station. I've got a really nice kit as well. And, unfortunately, the window is closed. There's a fence there if you want to sit down. I'll just sleep on the bench. I don't sit on any bench. I sleep on them. Okay. That is the tagline to the movie about your life right there. Okay. Next question comes from Lee Hughes. Hello. Not the footballer I don't think. He says, "Who do you think?" Okay. We get into the realm of left field questions now, so a couple more of them will wrap up. Who do you think is better looking? Joel Ward. Patrick Bamford. Or Johank goodbye. Oh. Three very good looking men. Yeah, I think I wouldn't say no to any of them. I think it's a mix of the player and the attitude and the style. And I think for Zeddries and Aloe and goodbye it probably means it. Okay. Next question. Oh, okay. We've got a couple of goods. We've got some good. Good accent, by the way. We've got some good questions. CPSC gifts. Oh. So I had the ones that the gift account says, "Let's look at three beer. Swansea got three replica shirts. What are the palaces and ticket holders going to get?" Well, we got a free away travel if you bought another one. I thought it was pretty good. Yeah. No. We didn't get a badge this year. We got a badge this year. I'd love it. I'd like a little no. I'd like a nice no. Yeah, that'd be nice. Yeah. I'd like a no. Yeah. I've just noticed that question from the 25th of May. Sorry. I just called back too far. What year is that? Good question. Good question. Good question. Why didn't we have it before the 25th of May? Yeah. Okay. Facebook questions. I've scrolled back too far too many questions. We're actually pretty much done. I'm going to do one more. Okay. Right. Final question comes from Cliff E. Park. Hi, Cliff E. Cliff. He had some good names this week. Very good names. He says, "Are there any loan players coming in?" Which I will expand to ask, "Are there any loan players we should be going after?" Any holes in the team that we should be plugging with the loan players. I think the loan-- Can't sign players on loan. We can't. I know that we can sell. We can let players leave on loan. Really? We can sign any players on loan. From any clubs or from wherever? Can we get the full championship from wherever? I think our window is absolutely firmly shut. I think the loan window opens again next week for championship clubs to get them from us. But not vice versa. So we can't get anybody on loan. That's it. It's all over. That's it. No more loans tonight. Well, one could move. One could move. One could move. We'll be really unhappy with that. We've got no loan to go to. Okay. Well, there you go. That ends the question, then, for part two. Very good question, though. Sorry we didn't have a proper answer for it. But if we did have to, then I guess it'd probably be another strike of that, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we'll deal with that again in January. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. More transfer stuff in January. So, listeners, thank you very much for your questions. And in part three, we're going to look forward to Palace's top of the table clash against Manchester City. So join us then. Hello listeners. Welcome back to the five-year plan podcast. Pod 148 sponsored by JC Innovation and Strategy, the Research and Brand Consultancy from South London, visit JC-IS.com. And, of course, vector printing for your print and embroidery needs, whatever they may be. Very good. It's good having two sponsors, isn't it? Well, let me do this. Let me do this. It's bigger than Jarvis Kockers' ego. Oh, good. It's pretty big. Bigger than Jeremy Kyle, which is JNC with a K. Oh, I see what you're supposed to do there. You're mixing two pods together. That's some two fond sponsors together. Let me do that vector's website, which is www.vector.co.uk, with that aforementioned K that Rob has mentioned. Now, obviously, Palace are playing Man City. In fact, we're not playing Man City this weekend because it's the international break, which we talked about earlier, and we've agreed we're not fans of. So it's a week off, and then Palace is playing Man City at Cellhurst Park. Of course, we beat them to one last season. That's one of the results of the season. We've got a question leading into it from Daniel Schilling. Hi, Daniel. Sorry. Hello, Daniel. Well, the attacking style we're using against Chelsea, be a good idea. And it's the same style we've used all season. Or against City, do we do the same thing, or do we play more defensive? So what do you think? Do you think, I'm assuming part of you will stick with this attacking formation. Do you think that's the right thing to do? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely the right thing to do. Just get out of there. As Delaney mentioned earlier, as Delaney said, let's have a go. You know, let's have a go of them. Yeah. Rob? It's about balance. Like the way that we've played, we did it against Man City last time. It's about a bit of balance. You've got to have the right kind of defensive mix up, as well as the right kind of attacking play. And I think that there's no harm in trying it. I think that's Selhurst, especially with the way that teams tend to come to Selhurst and the way that they set themselves up. We've got to be a little bit more maverick and Pargy loves that. Yeah. Would you pick the same 11 that started against Chelsea, which is Yala on the bench. Wickham up front, Sacco actually started in the middle with Punch and Wolf out wide. Do you think those guys have earned the right to start again or would you tweak it slightly against City, bearing in mind how well they've started the season? I think there's so much, it's kind of outdated thinking, I think, that we have to start with the same winning team. But I don't know, I think that, I think we, I think there's no harm in starting with the start that we played with. When you look at the players we have on the bench, Janik is going to be chomping at the bit, isn't he, when he comes on. I think it's a great opportunity to do that and ultimately if it starts the other way round and you end up with Sacco on the bench, then he'll be doing the same. He wants to come on and make that difference. So I think it's good, it's a competitive edge that we've got to our side now. I just think it's about being positive and I just think whatever formation, whether line up party puts out there, I think the team are going to get with the same attitude and it's just being really, really positive. And he'll just go out there and he'll say, you know, that you mentioned the word maverick earlier on and it's maybe an underused wording football, but it's, it's a great word because it's, it's, it's all encompassing. You know, it's, and I just think that's what will happen. You know, there's, we will go out then, we will have a go and we will, but what we will do is try and play great football and we'll knock it around and the great thing that party will do, if he's not going right after 20 minutes, 25 minutes, he'll change it. You know, and the crowd are going to be bang over it. You know, these top of table clashes are always great fun as we well know. We don't get, we don't get many. We don't get many. So maybe it goes back to what you're saying earlier about enjoying it because it's going to be... We will enjoy. We'll enjoy. I think it's a late kickoff. I'm not actually sure. I'm surprised. I'm surprised. If, if the TV companies are known, I'm sure it would have been another time. It's challenging to lead a side, isn't it? It's a champion's lead, he's sorry. It's going to be a fantastic game because Silas is going to be packed. You know, City are going to be up for it because they won't be. They love that new player that just bought for like 50-odd billion. Kevin De Bruyne. If De Bruyne is called, we'll love him. Yeah. So, you know, and let's be honest, whatever we think about City, they're great. They play four games, haven't lost. They haven't even conceived a goal yet, have they? Don't think so. I don't think they've even conceived a goal in the game. They've been starting, like, they're the perfect team to go after and actually get a result. Absolutely. It's almost, I mean, again, we look, in previous pause, we looked at these three-game City, sorry, Chelsea, Man City Spurs, and we were like, well, we've got to get, we've got to beat Villa, we've got to beat Norwich, it's going to be a hard run. Maybe, actually, now this is the perfect time to play them because we're absolutely brimming with confidence. Yeah. And it's all about confidence football. A lot of it's about confidence, you know. It's, most, we've got to remember, most of these players are roughly the same level. There's a band, there's a band where they're, you know, they're slightly better than others, but pretty much, they're all super fit players. They're all pretty, no, no, what they're doing. What wins games is confidence all the time. It's, you know, and that's what we're saying earlier about is at the end of the game, against Chelsea knocking around and taking the Mickey. We'll go in and we'll go in. We'll get the stuffing knocked out as if they get two goals of the first 20 minutes. We'll be against it. But you know what? Older pause teams would have buckled if that does that, but this policy will not. And, you know, whatever happens, we'll be going for it. And, you know, it'll be an exciting game. And, you know, there's no reason why we can't get the full three points. Absolutely no reason at all. If we do get the full three points, we will go joint top of the league, which is absolutely crazy. But there is something about this Palace team. And, yeah, in the first few games of this season, it's really helped us kick on and go second, which is, again, sounds ridiculous hearing it come out of my mouth on this podcast. But, you know, last season, we saw it. They just don't give up, do they, Rob? Like, even if they go behind, even in the Arsenal game a couple of weeks ago, we've got battered for the first 20 minutes. But they somehow have to hang in there. There's a real kind of special quality, which I guess you can't always buy. You can't always get from nowhere. The Palace have just got in this squad right now. I think you've got to have that quality that kind of, again, is about the character and the metal that you have in your side. But also just having the right set up. And I don't think, I think we probably don't give Pardu enough credit when it comes to pre-kick-off. Like, you look at some of the responses we've seen. Even Andy, a friend of the Parda and a regular person on here. You know, there were criticisms about our line up against Chelsea. But I think you've got to remember that this is a guy, this is a, like, we're talking professional football now, where it's not just a case of, you know, I'm just going to pick whoever I fancy, or whoever I think the best 11 players are. You are looking at it from a technical kind of perspective that we probably, that we, as football fans, don't even have an understanding of. And so against the side-like-man city, as I said earlier, that I think you end up with loads and loads of reports on weak players and how to approach and do that, we've got as good a chance of beating them as any side, even if they are beside, you know, this incredible winning team that aren't going to be difficult to defeat. Ultimately, you want to play, when you play a side-like-man city, you want to play the strongest side, purely so that if you do win, you can say we played the strongest side and we didn't lose, you know. And also, I mean, obviously they came in to sell us last season, we beat them 2-1, very good performance from Palace on the night, a great goal from Punchham for the free kick for the second. A lot of those man city players are pretty much the same sort of, they've got a couple of positions, Sterling and De Boheem, but it's mainly the same squad. They'll remember that, they'll remember what it was like to lose at Cellhurst under the lights, it was cracking atmosphere, but also a lot of this Palace team, it's the same Palace team as well, so they'll know that. And the city players will realise it's the same Palace squad, but improved. So psychologically, does it almost feel a bit like Palace might even have a bit of the edge, being that we're back at Cellhurst, the crowd's going to be big. It's going to be a great day, whatever happens. It's going to be great, I don't know the any team's got, I can't, you know, tell them what they've got, they had a fan to draw, the city who got their fan to just, you know, what you've got, you've got two teams, the two teams in the league who are actually playing the best football and the most exciting football at the moment. And I don't say that lightly, I actually mean that, I'm not just saying it because they're first and second, but then the two teams are about, you can't say that about Man United, you can't say about Liverpool, you can't say about Arsenal, you know. You know, this, that Man City team are great. Maybe we're slightly biased, because we're Palace fans, but you know, any football fan who's been following the Premier League will tell you, that's, that Palace team is an exciting team to watch and they're on fire. Yeah, it's games like this that we got promoted for as well as games like this that we want, as we want to. We want games like this where we're not going in being, we're not going in like we're Watford or Bournemouth, we're just going, oh, getting excited because we're playing Man City, those players that we saw on the telly last year, we're playing them. This is our third season, and we're going in there bringing we confidence, and we've got a squad now, we've got a squad that feels like they're playing like they've been in the Premier League for two and a bit years. You know, you're Delaney's, you're down, all these players, you know, you're Bunchons, you're Will's, they've all been around it. This is one of them playing against Man City, it's not a big deal. They're just playing a Premier League team. Of course they're a big team, Man City, don't get me wrong, but it's, we've lost, you've lost that, even as fans we've lost that. Oh my God, we've win win awards. Yeah, the essence is really good. Exactly. And that's, and that's exciting. We will never get complacent because we're Palace fans, and we're really, we're a lot more realistic than say other fans, you know, we all know what we're talking about, but we won't get complacent. And also this team, this Palace team doesn't, doesn't get rolled over. There might be periods in some games, Arsenal will get in, where we, but we don't, you know, you've just, you've just jinxed us, James. Oh, we're going to, we'll come out with six, one defeat. Sorry. Oh, God. But you know, well, even if it does end up being a six, six, one defeat, you know, damn well that Will have tried out, and it will have gone for it. And it will, it may be six, one paper, we'll, we'll be sat around this table, and it wasn't six while in reality. And, and you know, we'll get knocked down, but we'll get up again. He's never, never going to keep us down. And he's good at this guy, isn't he? He's doing well. He's improving, isn't he? He's a new boy. No, he's not. He's been around a bit, but he's, he's not creeping. It's a strong preseason. Nice, nice legs. And he's been about the face. Oh, and that, that's, that's for in the whole piece. Okay, folks, shall we, shall we have a, shall we have a prediction? I feel like we sometimes do predictions on this pod. We sometimes don't because we forget to do it. But shall we have a prediction then for the game? What of the man's city? Yeah, if a man's at the score. Yeah, score, score is all that. Yeah, people would normally do on a podcast at this point. I predicted the result last time. Did you? I said two, one, and, and we won two, one. Did you get the score? They call me Rob Stradamus. It's very, all that hard work. Rob Stradamus. Yeah. I think that, I didn't predict this. I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be too all. Too all that, well, we'll take that. I reckon one nil, because we never, ever keep a clean sheet. And against the side like city, you've been free scoring. I think there'll be surprise. So one nil to Palace. One nil to Palace? Yeah. Wow. Okay, well we'll take that. Any idea? We can, we're going to score. There you go. There you go. Where do you deserve to go? To all, I think, combine Wicom. Good stuff, good. Wicom, I think Wicom definitely deserves. Just as long as there's a wander around the pitch too much. Yeah. Second, can you do that twice in one port? I could do it three times if you want. No, no. What's your prediction, JJ? I think it's going to be close. I think it's going to be closer than people might expect. And I think... What can we close them to, too? We need a prediction, like a score line. We could also have a fence, do you think? It will be Crystal Palace. Oh. What? Oh. Interesting. Punch him with the goal. Oh. Yeah, interesting. And I think it's going to be Manchester City. One. Oh. That is close. Yeah, yeah. It's already with the goal. Same score as some of those. I think it'll be really close. Yeah. I do. And this Palace team as well, just, they always dig in. They always stick in games, even if they're behind or under pressure. And we always get chances, even if we're behind for a bit. We always seem to get opportunities to get back in the end. We've got speed down those flanks. Yeah. And you can't take that away. Whoever you're playing, by the best team in the world, you're always... When you've got people like Will from the last day and Punch going at you, any team, any defensive world is going to buckle under that at some point. It's just whether we capitalize on it. The amount of chances we get, that's why you wickens and all that lot of got to be on it. Yeah. Jay, Jay, is it a non-league day this weekend? Because it has been for the last... It normally is. It normally is when there's a break. What do you get for that? Just because I'm thinking they're probably going to be Palace fans who might want to just keep their fix going in football. Well, basically, it's a chance to support your local team. It's a chance to support your non-league team because there'll be no league stuff, league games. No Palace, obviously. And I think a lot of local teams put on special offers. Intentionally, and sports stuff. You've seen decoders or similar, like reduced price. Not sure. In words, it's when I'm out. Yeah, I don't know about that. Because it's probably a good chance for non-league loves to make a bit of extra money. But certainly, if you're local to South London, then you've got a team like Dalich Hamlet or Corden Afflettic, even like that, who no idea if they're at home. But that's... Yes, they call them. Could go and see Bromley who are in the conference, aren't they? Yeah, they do have Bromley in the conference. I don't know if they're at home this weekend. I think they might be. And they have a... I think they were something. It's really good that we're doing research. But I just think... I just think... Maybe they're... Maybe they're... I don't know if they... We should have done some preemptive stuff, but... Well, listeners couldn't... Our listeners are all over the place. We've got some listeners in the north of England, you know, not outside London. So, research your local team and go and watch them play because it's non-league day, so why not support them? And, you know, it'll be a good warm-up for supporting Palace Network. I don't know what I'm talking about, but a long day. Okay. That's it. That's the end of this week's pod. So, James, thank you for being here and welcome back. Thank you very much for inviting me to be really enjoyable. I've enjoyed this talking about... Because normally, I talk about Hull on podcasts. Hull Radio. Hull Radio. Yeah. So, it's really nice to be here. It's really nice to be here. It's really nice to be here. How do you think your first pod pack has gone? I think I went over the top on a couple of moments. I lost my way a little bit. There's a few silly jokes. But overall, I think I kept it together. I managed to keep... I thought the flow went quite well, isn't it? What are you going to do for the next week's pod? How are you going to... Suffer. Very good. I'm going to wrap this up. Would I have it one next week, though? No. It's the International break. The week after, I'll be... I'll probably be sitting at high might here with my 2-2 prediction being correct. There you go. Rob Sutherland. Yep. Thanks for being here. It's always a pleasure. Love it. It's always good to have you on. Be it presenter or guest. Listeners, thank you. Can I present one? No. I don't want to, actually. Maybe one day. No. I think that will be a pod. I don't think I was born to be a presenter. No. You host radio shows and stuff. Yeah, I do. Yeah, but that's a bit different. It's exactly the same. It is exactly the same. Can we... Can we one the pod? This is one of the moments I didn't want to happen. Yeah, fine. Listeners, thank you. Thank you for listening. Follow us on Twitter at @fipvansing for all the latest from Ballad. Why am I saying that? I don't know why people know that anyway. Anyway, thank you for listening. We'll see you in two weeks after our institute. Bye. Bye. Bye. My brother-in-law died suddenly. And now my sister and her kids have to sell their home. That's why I told my husband we could not put off getting life insurance any longer. An agent offered us a ten-year, $500,000 policy for nearly $50 a month. Then we called Select Quote. Select Quote found us identical coverage for only $19 a month. A savings of $369 a year. 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Wow! Palace won at Premier League champions Chelsea and JD is joined by Enders and Rob Sutherland to discuss it. They also dissect Palace's deadline day activity and preview the title clash with Man City at Selhurst .
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