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Dr. Liao's Week 5 Injury Report Dr. Jimmy Liao is back and better than ever with this week's installment of the Detroit Lions' injury report. How soon could we see Brian Branch back on the field? Is Alim McNeil likely to miss time. For the most comprehensive look at the Detroit Lions' injury report look no further than this video, right here, right now. Detroit Lions Podcast Brings You Key Detroit Lions Coverage The Detroit Lions Podcast will continue to bring you the latest info on the Lions as the team marches through opponents in the 2023 NFL season. Stay tuned as we continue to bring you more great Detroit Lions content every day. https://youtu.be/RGCP4VgPV1E Let us know what you think about the show by commenting in the podcast thread in the subreddit, or by leaving us a voice mail message via Skype at: Detroit Lions Podcast Your input will help make the show better, and if you leave us a message on Skype, you just might be featured in an upcoming podcast! You can also give us a call at (929) 33-Lions. Get yourself a Classic Detroit t-shirt here! http://shirt.detroitlionspodcast.com Don't miss our great merch selection in the Detroit Lions Podcast store. Looking for the relief that CBD products can bring? Click here: https://bit.ly/2XzawlG Get your Lions Gear at: https://bit.ly/2Ooo5Px As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases made here: https://amzn.to/36e2ZfD Donate Direct at: https://bit.ly/2qnEtFj Join the Patreon Crew at: https://bit.ly/2bgQgyj #lions #detroitlions #detroitlionspodcast #onepride #allgrit #sanfrancisco #49ers #purdy #mccaffery #goff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Dr. Liao's Week 5 Injury Report

Dr. Jimmy Liao is back and better than ever with this week's installment of the Detroit Lions' injury report. How soon could we see Brian Branch back on the field? Is Alim McNeil likely to miss time.

For the most comprehensive look at the Detroit Lions' injury report look no further than this video, right here, right now.

Detroit Lions Podcast Brings You Key Detroit Lions Coverage

The Detroit Lions Podcast will continue to bring you the latest info on the Lions as the team marches through opponents in the 2023 NFL season. Stay tuned as we continue to bring you more great Detroit Lions content every day.

https://youtu.be/RGCP4VgPV1E

Let us know what you think about the show by commenting in the podcast thread in the subreddit, or by leaving us a voice mail message via Skype at: Detroit Lions Podcast Your input will help make the show better, and if you leave us a message on Skype, you just might be featured in an upcoming podcast! You can also give us a call at (929) 33-Lions.

Get yourself a Classic Detroit t-shirt here! http://shirt.detroitlionspodcast.com

Don't miss our great merch selection in the Detroit Lions Podcast store.

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Probably my favorite win of the year is the one we can get for the buy, 'cause we get to enjoy a whole weekend of games, basking the victory song, while watching other teams beat up on each other, and also laugh at them for getting upset. Those of you who are watching the Tigers and MLB know that the NFL win is like 10 straight baseball games. Conversely, NFL loss is like losing 10 straight games, so that's just terrible going into a buy week. This was also a special win 'cause it was Monday night football where we were wearing the formal blacks, which looked really good. I still want to see another alternate uniform, though, with all silver or all chrome. I think that would be pretty cool, too. Maybe Terrier will use this buy week to reevaluate his priorities, as he just can't keep it in his pants, apparently. Another pass interference for Arnold, which is now five and four games. A couple holding calls also for diversification. At least I hope you're wrapping it up, Terrier, 'cause at this rate, you're going to be paying child support to half the refs in the league. Stop baying the refs' wives. I'm Jimmy Liao, University of Michigan Medical School grad board certified in family medicine. This is the medical edition of the Detroit Lions podcast. Today is Thursday, October the 3rd. I'm going to review the Seahawks game, do a status report on the team at the buy, talk about why the Niners Christian McCaffrey went to Germany, and it wasn't just to be first in line for October fast, and discuss some major cowboy injuries that are already impacting the Lions game next week. So let's get to the Seahawks game recap. First, I want to mention that Kaleef Raymond got a catch against the Seahawks, so it was nice to see he was able to find some new gloves after giving his last pair to my kid. Those gloves are already framed on my kid's wall, so thank you Kaleef. For those of you wondering, I inspected Kaleef's gloves to see if there was anything special about real NFL gloves, and there isn't. They're no different than any no-name generic football gloves that I've got on Amazon. However, Kaleef hasn't had much receiving production this year, just four catches. It's good to see him still involved in the offense, because if Jamo or Saint get heard, we are going to need him. Another guy that was nice to see was James Houston, who got 14 snaps. Not really much production there, but it's early, and let's give him a break here. He came off a severe season-long injury with that right high ankle, spraying with a fibula fracture. This preseason that he was also hampered by a knee bone bruise, I think that ankle injury from last year, it's a big deal. He may never be the guy from his rook here, but let's give him a little bit more time here before making a judgement. Still early, let's give him a few weeks before we judge him. Coyote Aussica played well at the left guard spot. Before this game, he had only six total stars, and was pretty solid in them, including last year in the championship game. Really great to have him as a solid guard backup. Glass got moved to center, and that seemed to go very smoothly. All good news there are so far in replacing Frank Ragnow. Now let's get to game injuries. There are a couple minor concerns that hopefully don't turn into anything major. Certainly a much better health outcome than the Cardinals game of last week. Let's start with Kirby Joseph in the fourth order, laid in the game at the three-minute mark. His body got torqued and bent to the right as he made a tackle. He came up reaching for his right hip area. Hopefully this just indicates a simple string of the oblique or the back muscles. A hip pointer can cause pain in that area, but there was no impact to that area that I saw on video. Now the main concern here though is that the mechanism of this injury is very similar to the right hip injury he suffered last year, also against the Seahawks. Watch the videos to compare. I have the videos on my Twitter as well as on the Lionswire article, the Post Game article. Last year Joseph finished that game after hurting his hip but missed the next two games. He ended up having off season hip surgery presumably on that right hip. Joseph appeared to be in good spirits after the game, got a game ball, so hopefully nothing comes of this. Currently it's Thursday three days after the game, haven't heard anything yet, so no news is good news here. And speaking of no news is good news, Carlton Davis is another one, third quarter. The video wasn't clear, but Davis appeared to be having some kind of pain in his left shoulder or arm area after the play. He was hit hard in the right shoulder, but it wasn't certain if that actually had anything to do with the injury. Davis left the game just for a play, but he was able to finish the game. Hopefully the injury is just a mild strain to the shoulder area. A stinger is possible, but it wasn't the typical mechanism of that. The worst case scenario though would be a pectere. He was grabbing and pulling trying to make the tackle, and that can sometimes lead to pectears. Again, I'm recording this on Thursday three days after the game. There's been no news so far, so that's good news so far for Carlton Davis. A guy who's a surprise inactive was Brian Branch. On the illness on Sunday caused him to be listed as doubtful. This was interesting because most routine illnesses like respiratory infections or gastroenteritis, which is stomach flu, can resolve pretty easily within 24 hours in young healthy guys. The fact that he was listed as doubtful instead of questionable suggests that it's slightly more serious or slightly more complicated than a routine illness. But the good news is that listing him as doubtful instead of out is it means it's not something long-term or nothing serious like, say, appendicitis or Christian mahogany's motto. The doubtful designation means he's very likely to be ready for the Cowboys game. I'm actually sort of happy he got a week off after the concussion. I don't want this hard-hitting dude stacking up concussions. Remember, he might have had a mild undiagnosed concussion in Game 1. On X, @cooldownrat asked, does this mean he passed concussion protocol and is now related to that? He did pass concussion protocol, but still possible that whatever symptoms were related to his concussion. Concussion symptoms a few days out are almost certainly vague symptoms like nausea, headache, fogginess, fatigue. These kind of symptoms can be caused by any kind of routine illness like a sinus infection, gastroenteritis, or even just lack of sleep or playing video games too much. There's just no way to definitively say that those symptoms are related to a concussion, so it's a big gray area here that Dr. Kim make any definitive conclusions. The lines may have been just playing it safe just in case his symptoms were still a post-concussion issue, and I think that was smart. Brad and Joseph ended up filling in for him for the entire game. Joseph had only played five defensive snaps in his two-year career to this point. It looked like he might have been late rotating over on the 30-yard pass to DK Metcalf that took down to the half-yard line, but overall it didn't really notice him much, which is sort of good news or bad news. You don't want to notice your safety is that much generally, so maybe he played well. Now let's go over. When you need meal time inspiration, it's worth shopping Kroger for thousands of appetizing ingredients that inspire countless mouth-watering meals. 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Hard to install? No, it was easy. I installed these and they got some from my mom. She talked to a design consultant for free and scheduled a professional measure and install. Hall of Fame Sun. They're the number one online retailer of custom window coverings in the world. Blinds.com is the best. Blinds.com is the GOAT. Go to Blinds.com for 40% off-site buy. Blinds.com. Rules and restrictions may apply. For a season recap now at the bi-week point, about a quarter over the way through the season. Couple major losses. Marcus Davenport, defensive end. Miss game two-dear-growing injury, but then left elbow injury in game four that's expected to be a season-ender. Side to a one-year contract as a free agent, we were hoping he could solidify that edge position opposite Aiden, but now with him out, we need Ansarike, Josh Pascal, maybe James Houston to hopefully step things up. The other major losses, Derek Barnes, took a direct impact to his right knee in game three. May have caused a hyper-extension, maybe an MCL spring, and possibly more. He was placed on IR after the game. The earliest he could return is week nine versus the Packers, but from the sounds of it, he's expected to be out longer than that. There's even a possibility as a season-ender. Dan Campbell had mentioned that they're waiting to see if a ligament heals, and if it doesn't, he may end up needing surgery. Now, with Barnes out, Malcolm Rodriguez and Ben Neiman saw a big increase in snaps at the linebacker position, so hopefully those guys can fill in the void well. Couple minor losses. Frank Ragnow is a short-term loss here. He's not expected to be a long-term issue. He hurt the peck early in game three and missed game four. That was a left-peck strain, also a partially torn peck, depending on how you want to see. If the stray is mild and does not involve the tendon, he could be back after the by versus the cowboys. If a longer recovery is needed, I'm not expecting much longer than that. He was now placed on IR, which does suggest an injury of less than four or five weeks. To fill Ragnow's void, Graham Glasgow was moved from left guard to center, and Coyote Owisiko's insert-out left guard, they both played well. A fatu melafangu was placed on IR. There was a persistent equal issue that landed on IR before this last game. The injury was likely suffered in the second preseason game on August the 17th. It was not initially expected to be long-term, otherwise the lines would have put him on IR back then, his earliest possible return was weak nine versus the packers. But if starters Brian Branch and Kirby Joseph stay healthy, his absence is not a major issue, but if either of those go down, then it would be really valuable to have melafangu. Ong ex-at Dr. Lurker 6-2-3 asked, "If you saw from the injury graphic pregame among in a football, first time I've seen anything text from melafangu labeled as Achilles." Now this is indeed the case that's in Achilles, and sometimes Achilles are labeled as ankles on those listings. Achilles tendonitis would explain why this is going on for so long. Achilles tendonitis can have a variable recovery, can take a long time to heal, and because it's the Achilles, you get nervous as a player and as a doctor, you don't want that to turn into a full Achilles rupture. I can understand a player being very hesitant to return until he's really fully healthy, because he does now want a season ending Achilles tear. Alright, let's talk about reinforcements coming soon. Broderick Martin, defensive tackle. He hyper-extended his right knee on August the 24th and was placed on IR at the 53-man cut down. That means he's ready to return any time if they want. Dan Campbell comments suggest that he's not quite ready yet, but he should be soon. I'd expect him to start practicing in the next three weeks or so. Now with Dan having poured out for the year, having Broderick Martin back along the deal line will be a nice option to have. Christian Mahogany is also eligible to return from IR. He missed all camp due to mono and started the season on NFI. His mono was diagnosed probably around July 20th. It's usually a three to four week recovery. He was able to return to training before the start of the regular season, which was a really good sign though. Mahogany's return is going to be dependent on regaining his strength, his conditioning as well as getting some mental rap sale. For a rookie who missed all of training camp and has not practiced with the team for the entire regular season, a mental game might be the limiting factor for his return. Hopefully, he doesn't play much of a role this season, because if he does, that means there were injuries to guys ahead of him. There are a couple of guys long-term who might be back at some point. Emmanuel Mosley, after two straighten ACL tears he tore his pack around August the 5th. I'm assuming this is a complete rupture with surgery. If so, hopefully he can have around a 16 week timeline, same as CJ Gardner Johnson of last year, which would put his return back around Thanksgiving. Also, John Cominsky had an MCL tear around July 30th, which was complicated enough to require surgery. I remember most MCLs don't need surgery, so there was something more serious going on. The initial reported estimated recovery was five to six months, which would mean January or February. The Lions did have him make the 53-man roster before putting him on IR, which suggests the Lions are still hopeful that there is a chance he could return this year. This episode is brought to you by Honda. When you test drive the new prologue EV, there's a lot that can impress you about it. There's the class-leading passenger space, the clean, thoughtful design, and the intuitive technology. But out of everything, what you'll really love most is that it's a Honda. Visit Honda.com/ev to see offers. Next, I want to go into a side topic talking about the 49ers and Christian McCaffrey, who has not played yet this year due to bilateral Achilles tendonitis. He went to Germany not just for Oktoberfest, not just for a David Hasselhoff concert, but presumably for PRP or stem cell injections, which are not legal to use here in America. So let's talk about what those mean. PRP stands for a platelet-rich plasma. The theory is that the platelets will help speed healing time. It's used for tendonitis, arthritis, MCL springs, hamstrings. The bottom line though is there's no good evidence it's better than placebo. Studies have shown that placebo or saline injections, which is basically water injections, have the same outcomes. The studies that show that PRP works have no placebo control, which in my opinion, invalidates the study. The other issue with PRP is it's not standardized what's actually in the PRP. There are over 40 PRP products on the market. They're all slightly different. It's the Wild West out there. There's no standardization. In this case, it's the Wild East as you have to go to Germany to even get it done. Next is stem cells, which is very similar to PRP. Stem cells are derived from your own bone marrow or embryos with the theory that the stem cells can turn into any tissue or at least help other tissues regenerate. This theory sounds good. It might help with knee cartilage, ACLs or tendonitis. But just like with PRP, there's insufficient high-quality evidence to justify their use. It's the same issue as PRP and that the studies are often flawed and biased. In general, when it comes to vague, difficult-to-measure outcomes like healing time, injury prevention, pain, energy, things that all NFL players and all recreational athletes want to deal with, it becomes fertile ground for industries to take advantage of the placebo effect, which can be in the range of 70% efficacy. I fully support those honestly trying to make medical advances, but as consumers, you do need to look at it with a slightly cynical eye. Keep in mind that most research studies are funded and performed by the company trying to sell a product, so there's a massive conflict of interest there. All right, let's move on to the Cowboys. They had some major injuries that are already affecting Argy. The Marcus Lawrence has a right-list Frank injury. He's on IR and he's out. Micah Parsons has a left-high ankle. It was not a fracture. It didn't look too bad on video. He was now placed on IR, so we're probably looking at two to four weeks here. A severe high ankle sprain could be four months like with James Houston, who had a high ankle plus a fracture. There's a lot of variability with high ankle sprigs. There's a good chance Micah Parsons is going to be out for our game because it takes longer for a high ankle sprain to get better because it causes instability in the joint. With Micah Parsons being a speed rusher, needs a lot of torque with his ankle, I expect him to be out a little bit longer than you might expect. Miranda Cooks just recently was reported to have a right knee infection. He's going to miss this upcoming game this weekend. If this was just a superficial skin infection, then yes, he could definitely be back in two weeks. But if it's a joint infection, good chance he's out for our game. A joint infection is no joke. You need IV antibiotics. It starts getting into your bloodstream and you get systemic symptoms, which means you get fever, malaise, you just feel sick overall. Now, I know that Max Crosby last year had a septic knee, was listed as doubtful, and then I'm not missing the game. You see, only doubtful in years that I know of that actually played in the game. Most guys are not going to be Max Crosby, though. So there's a good chance Brandon Cooks is going to be out for our game. All right, that's it for today. Thanks for watching and listening. The Cowboy Stealer game is on Sunday night, so I'll be keeping a close eye on that one to see if any new injuries mount for the Cowboys. Talk to you next week. Let's bring it in here again. Let's go, baby. One, two, three. You've had enough of that shit. That's it.