Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show
Episode 24: Wendy & Rob Crafts
(upbeat music) - I got the whiskey. - Let me have a drink here whiskey. - Gonna get out of here. (upbeat music) - My name's Ken and I clean Willie Nelson's underhole. (laughing) - Underhole. (upbeat music) - I know you don't agree, but I think he's the king of country. - Get the fuck out of here. (laughing) - Get out of my studio. I'm scared. No, hell no. (upbeat music) - From the Ramona Radio Studios, it's the Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show. (upbeat music) - All right, we're here. We're live. We're doing alive. Happy Sunday, everybody. Hope everybody had a good week. Welcome to the Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show. With me as always. Sweet curbs. - Hey, hey. - Hey, hey. And with me as always, the mastermind behind all the sound effects. - Come on. - Come on, man. - Here, go for it. - It's me. (mumbling) (laughing) If you ever could have hit a button, you're like, well, that didn't make no sense. - Well, that didn't work. - Oh shit. Well, we got a pretty cool one. - You're better than that sound effect, Eric. - Right. - Oh, sorry. - We got a really cool guest with us today. Miss Wendy Graham. - Really cool. - Why not, Wendy? How are you? - Hey, y'all, what up? - If you don't know, Wendy Graham. - Hey, y'all. - I am awesome. Thanks for having me. - She does the, hey, y'all. - If you don't know, Wendy Kraft, she's the percussion player in the band called, the coolest band called Dirty Confetti. - Coolest band ever. - And she's a Ramona - We're kind of famous. - Oh, we're gonna start with that. Okay, I'm a fifth generation Ramona y'all. - Wait, let's talk about it. What are we talking about? So if you're driving in from-- - Driving in from Julia on your right-hand side, right past third street. There is a mural of a lady riding a turkey, and that is my great Aunt Dottie. - Great Aunt Dottie. - My great Aunt Dottie. - Oh, and when-- - Buh-buh-buh-buh. - Buh-buh-buh. (laughing) - There it is, there it is. (laughing) - So what was the deal with that? She was like the turkey queen. - She was the 1938 turkey queen. - So she's a professional turkey-- - For money, it's a professional turkey. - I don't know if she was a professional or not, but she looks pretty darn good riding that turkey. And actually, if you Google Turkey Queen of 1938, her picture will come up on your phone. - No, it's awesome. - It's pretty cool. - Is it on your dad, the Schrodinger side? - It is on my grandma's side. She was a Macintosh. - Okay. - She married into the Macintosh family, and she used to be Dorothy Richardson, and then she became Dottie Macintosh, and my great Aunt Dottie. - There you go. - There's Aunt Dottie. - World's famous, y'all. - And you have another aunt that was pretty famous here. - My grandma. - That was your grandma? - My grandma. - The artist. - Yes. - On the side of affordable treasures in Ramona at 7th and Main Street, there is a painting that was done after her painting. They had to recreate it because she was gone by the time that they did it, and that's her painting in there, and then if you go into Country Kitchen, that is her actual original painting hanging on the wall, that mural there. - Oh, wow. - And you guys have some at your house, right? Guy has him hanging in. - Yeah, yeah. She did 12 paintings of historic Ramona, did research for, gosh, like 10 years, and it was the work of her life. - What year did she actually do those paintings? - She did them over a period of 10 years, like in the '80s and '90s. - Yeah. - Yeah, they're pretty amazing. We still have them. - They're pretty cool paintings. - Yeah. - Heck yeah, right on. - Well, shoot. - Sorry, a lot of history here. Deep roots. - So, your family was the main butcher in Ramona. - Yes. - I saw a commercial back in the day of your, I think it was your dad. It was like in the '80s, and they were talking about that butcher shop. - Yeah, my grandpa used to own Maury's custom cutting on Elm Street, which was the big cow. - Which we still live on. Yeah, the cow was still in the front yard. We kept, his name is Ivan. He's named after my grandpa, Maury Ivan Scheidner, and my grandpa was a butcher. My dad was a custom slaughter. My brother was a butcher. My mom was a meat wrapper, and the rest of us kids all worked in the meat processing plant that's right out there on front, and that was our business for 50 years. - That's wild. - Yep. - You're down cool. - That is crazy. - All right, so you're obviously a music lover. - I love music. - This is the Outlaw Country Show. - Yeah. - So I know you pretty well, because you are in my band. - Yeah, yeah. - Let's introduce you to all the people in Ramona, and give you your inspirations of music. I know you're a rocker. - I'm kind of an '80s chick, so any kind of '80s pop is my thing. - '80s pop. - But then I started liking country, I don't know, in the early 2000s, and I like more of the newer country, but our band does Outlaw Country, so I've become quite a fan of Outlaw Country as well. - See? - I know. - He converted me. I was converted. - Well, who was your big '80s popping, you know, like... - Oh, sticks. - Sticks is all about the sticks. - Sticks is all about the sticks. - Yeah, how many times have you seen them in concert? - At least four this year. - Yeah, like every year for... - I've lost count in the time that I've known y'all. - I know. - Like, how many times? - I've lost count, but every time I can, I go see 'em. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Get it. - Hey, there's nothing wrong with some good sticks. - Good sticks. - Good sticks. - Tommy Shaw is the best guitarist of all time, just saying. - The only stick song I know is the "Come, Sail Away" song. - Oh, you know more than that. You just don't know it. - Oh, you know. - Well, you know this one. You don't know this one? - Oh, come on. - Really? - Everybody knows this one. - What about too much time on my hands? - You know this one, then. - Come, Sail Away? - Come, Sail Away. - This one? Is this come, Sail Away? - Yeah. - I'm going to the chorus, sorry. - And you know what, because of South Park? - No, I just know if it's a popular song. - Let's see how much of a fan she really is. Give me the name of each song, Randy, who's this? - Oh, that's Lady. - Okay. - This one? - That was before Tommy Shaw joined the band in 1972. - Dang. Bonus point. Too much time on my hands. - Okay, this is actually kind of funny. - Babe. - All right, we're going to go down. We're going to, it's sorted by the most popular songs. - Name that tune has to be country songs, right? - We're going to have a dozen. - Um, Snow Blind, which is about a little coke hyena. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - This one. ♪ But don't think I can't hear you calling ♪ - Uh, superstars. - Oh, geez. She actually really does no sticks. Like, we can do this all about sticks. - We can do this all day long. - They were a song called Snow Blind. - Snow Blind. - It's about wild house songs back in the day. Like, I was listening to, I play out a lot of country in my car and they play Leonard Skinnard. And it was, what is the song, Needle on the Vane? - Uh, yeah. - Or Needle on a Spoon. I keep saying Needle on the Vane because it makes me think of drugs. - And the Spoon. - Yeah, I'm like, that's wild. They just sing songs about this crazy stuff. - To them, yeah, that's wild. - So what's your inspiration for country, Wendy? - Country, I love me some Zach Brown. - Yeah. - Um, I like a lot of the newer country like Randall Lambert. Right now, I'm really into Laney Wilson. - Oh, she was in town recently. - Yeah, we went and saw her. - Of course she did. - Of course she did. - Yeah, you guys are down to the amphitheater. - Yes. - Laney Wilson. - So good. You got it, you got to look her up. - She is really freaking good. - She's full of energy and she's cute and oh my gosh. - She's not considered outlaw country though. - No, heck no. - What would that be considered, like pop country? - Yeah, pop country probably. - I knew it, pop country. - But yeah, you like smaller stuff. - I do. - Patsy Klein. - Patsy Klein, yeah. - So you know the question of questions that we ask every, if you've listened to the show? - I have a few times. - All right, don't you dare say it. - No, I'm just kidding. - I'm gonna say whoever you are. King of country, who would it be? - I'm gonna say Zach Brown. - Zach Brown. (laughter) - I mean, I like Zach Brown. He's just too nude. - He's not old enough yet. - I do like Zach Brown. - Yeah. All right, so Zach Brown, what about Queen? - Queen, I would, I would think maybe Patsy Klein, 'cause she paved the way for a lot of the... - She knocked out a lot of walls, huh? - Yeah, that's an acceptable answer, yes. - A acceptable answer. - But I like Loretta Lynn, Dolly Parton. - Yeah. - I like 'em all. - Dolly's my queen. - Yep. - I know. - Oh, yeah. - We have a good time playing those songs. - All right, give us a song. - Yeah, let's listen. - What do you wanna hear right now? - Let's listen to 'em. - Do you hear one song right now, what would it be? - Country. - Walking after midnight. - Oh, yeah, there we go. - All right. - That's Patsy Klein, right? - That's Patsy Klein. - Yeah. - Oh, yeah, that's a good one. - Let's do it. - All right. - Do it a lot. - We'll do it a lot. ♪ ♪ I go out walking ♪ ♪ After midnight ♪ ♪ Out in the moonlight ♪ ♪ Just like we used to do ♪ ♪ I'm always walking ♪ ♪ After midnight ♪ ♪ Searching for you ♪ ♪ ♪ I walk for miles ♪ ♪ Along the highway ♪ ♪ Well, that's just my way ♪ ♪ Of saying I love you ♪ ♪ I'm always walking ♪ ♪ After midnight ♪ ♪ Searching for you ♪ ♪ ♪ I stop to see your whipping well ♪ ♪ Crying on his bellow ♪ ♪ Maybe he's crying for me ♪ ♪ And as the skies tell me ♪ ♪ The night winds whisper to me ♪ ♪ I'm known soon as I can be ♪ ♪ I go out walking ♪ ♪ After midnight ♪ ♪ Out in the sunlight ♪ ♪ Just hoping you may be somewhere ♪ ♪ Or walking ♪ ♪ After midnight ♪ ♪ Searching for me ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ I stop to see your whipping well ♪ ♪ Crying on his bellow ♪ ♪ Maybe he's crying for me ♪ ♪ And as the skies tell me ♪ ♪ The night winds whisper to me ♪ ♪ I'm known soon as I can be ♪ ♪ I go out walking ♪ ♪ After midnight ♪ ♪ Out in the sunlight ♪ ♪ Just hoping you may be somewhere a-walkin' ♪ ♪ After midnight searching for me ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ I got my toes in the water, ass in the sand ♪ ♪ And I don't worry in a world of cold beer ♪ ♪ In my hand, life is good today ♪ ♪ Life is good today ♪ ♪ Well, the plane's us down just about 3 o'clock ♪ ♪ And the city's still on my mind ♪ ♪ Bikini's and palm trees danced in my head ♪ ♪ I was still in the baggage line ♪ ♪ Concreteed cars with their own prison bars ♪ ♪ Like this life I'm livin' in ♪ ♪ But the plane brought me father ♪ ♪ I'm surrounded by water ♪ ♪ And I'm not gone back again ♪ ♪ I got my toes in the water, ass in the sand ♪ ♪ And I don't worry in a world of cold beer ♪ ♪ In my hand, life is good today ♪ ♪ Life is good today ♪ ♪ Adios en vile con deals ♪ ♪ Yeah, I'm livin' GA ♪ ♪ And if you weren't both killer and pretty senior readers ♪ ♪ I'd have no reason to stay ♪ ♪ Adios en vile con deals ♪ ♪ Yeah, I'm livin' GA ♪ ♪ Gonna let a hot sun and roll a big fat one ♪ ♪ And grab my guitar and play ♪ ♪ The four days flew by like a drunk Friday night ♪ ♪ As summer true to an end ♪ ♪ They can't believe that I just couldn't leave ♪ ♪ And I better do to my friends ♪ ♪ 'Cause my bartender, she's from the islands ♪ ♪ Her body's been kissed by the sun ♪ ♪ And coconut replaces the smell of the bar ♪ ♪ And I don't know if it's her or the wrong ♪ ♪ I got my toes in the water, ass in the sand ♪ ♪ And I don't worry in a world of cold beer ♪ ♪ And my hand, life is good today ♪ ♪ Life is good today ♪ ♪ Adios en vile con deals ♪ ♪ A long way from GA ♪ ♪ Yes, and all the mooch options ♪ ♪ They call me Big Papa ♪ ♪ When I throw pesos that way ♪ ♪ Adios en vile con deals ♪ ♪ A long way from GA ♪ ♪ Someone do me a favor ♪ ♪ And pour me some jager ♪ ♪ And I'll grab my guitar and play ♪ ♪♪ ♪ Adios en vile con deals ♪ ♪ Going home now to stay ♪ ♪ The senior reach us don't care ♪ ♪ When there's no dinner roll ♪ ♪ And I got the money to stay ♪ ♪ Adios en vile con deals ♪ ♪ Going home now to stay ♪ ♪♪ ♪ It's gonna pop up by the lake ♪ ♪ And put my ass in a long chair ♪ ♪ Toes and a clay ♪ ♪ Now don't worry in a world of PBR on the way ♪ ♪ Life is good today ♪ ♪ Life is good today ♪ [ Laughs ] ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ You acts like you were just born ♪ ♪ And I'd face down in a memory ♪ ♪ But feel it all right ♪ ♪ So who does your past belong to today, baby ♪ ♪ You don't say nothing when you're feeling this way ♪ ♪ Girls in the boss thinking who is this guy ♪ ♪ But they don't think nothing when they're telling you lies ♪ ♪ You look so careless when they're shooting that bull ♪ ♪ Don't you know heartaches are heroes when their pockets are full ♪ ♪ And tell me you're trying to cure a seven-year pain ♪ ♪ See what else your whole heart can take ♪ ♪ Boys say when is he gonna give us a rule ♪ ♪ But girls say gotta hope he comes back soon ♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ Everybody's talkin' but you don't hear things ♪ ♪ Still love town on you down here to swim ♪ ♪ Well if I'm empty why don't you come around ♪ ♪ Baby we're so great about sleepin' downtown ♪ ♪ There's plenty of dies to be someone you're not ♪ ♪ Just say you're lookin' for something you might've forgot ♪ ♪ Don't bother callin' to say you're leaving alone ♪ ♪ 'Cause there's a full on every corner when you're tryin' to get home ♪ ♪ Just tell 'em you're tryin' to cure a seven-year pain ♪ ♪ See what else your whole heart can take ♪ ♪ Boys say when is he gonna give us a rule ♪ ♪ Girl say gotta hope he comes back soon ♪ ♪ Tell me you're tryin' to cure a seven-year pain ♪ ♪ See what else your whole heart can take ♪ ♪ Boys say when is he gonna give us a rule ♪ ♪ Girl say gotta hope he comes back soon ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ Alright, we're back. Happy Sunday, y'all. We're here hangin' out with my good friend Winnie Crafts. Winnie, what are you drinkin' over there? I'm drinkin' some wine and some whiskey. Drinkin' wine and whiskey. The two W's. The two W's. What's your typical drink of choice, Winnie? I'm a wine drinker, especially Ramona Wine. I love our local wine. Yeah, I'm pretty much a wino. But I'll drink anything you put in my hand. You know that about me TBR, come on now. She's an equal opportunity drinker. Yeah, yeah. I'm not picky, I am to a point. What's a drink, like I bet you will never drink again because maybe that experience. Oh gosh, well, yeah, there's a two of those. There's Tequila, me and Jose had to break up the Tequila. That's a Least Tequila. Just didn't work out. Yeager, I can't even look at Yeager anymore. Yeah. You know, most people come in with one, and you got two. Oh, I got at least two. Yeah, at least. Well, how come? Well, 'cause I've been drinkin' since I was, you know, 21. Okay, since you were 21. That's gonna work. So how come you and Jose don't get along the way? 'Cause too many nights in the pre-end of the porcelain gun. You know what, you said Yeager. I've never been sick on Yeager, but I used to really like it when I was young. And then when we went to Florida, we got those Yeager bombs, and I was like, I cannot drink this. I don't know how I had like two sips of it, and I think I threw it away. I was like, I don't know how I used to drink this. I think we all threw ours away, 'cause I had like two sips of mine too, and I was like, no. But I never got sick offered or anything. I did really like it when I was younger. No, Yeager's bad experiences. What was your bad experience with Tequila? What'd you do? Tequila was just, there's so many. All right, the last time. The last time. It's been a while. We've been broken up for a while. But yeah, do you mind, I mean, just the thought of Tequila makes me go mmm. Now like straight Tequila or like a new new margaritas? No, no Tequila. I mean, I will. I will still drink it, but it does make my stuff. Yeah, you're not gonna be like, yeah, let me get that. If someone ordered shots and gave me one, I mean, I'm gonna drink it. I'm still gonna drink it, but yeah. It brings back some pretty bad memories. I can't drink rum. And again, I never got sick from it. I just don't like it. I can do sailor juries, but like, um... I like Captain Morgan's. Captain Morgan's. It's like straight unflavored, just like white rum. Yeah, no, the white rum. No, thank you. You can do this Florida Kanye Spice drum here. I tried that last time. Oh yeah, that's right. Oh yeah, that's right, yeah. You still have that rum in here, that's totally fine. Is that the, that's not the banana one, is it? No, no. No, that's from Nicaragua. Oh, I didn't, yeah, I did not like that one, it burned my lips. Yeah, yeah, we went to, we went to NAMM that week, a couple years ago. Oh my gosh, yeah, we did. And Wendy thought it would be a good idea. For us non-musical people, what is NAMM? No, don't you go blaming me, don't throw me under the bus. It's a little Asian country in Asia. No, no, oh, NAMM, no. Nom or NAMM? No, it's a music convention, it stands for something, I can't remember this. It's like NAMM right now. Yeah, NAMM, I don't know how it stands for either. I'll tell you right now. Oh, thank you. She's going to consult her anyway. We wrote up there, we all wrote up there together, and Wendy thought it would be a good idea to bring a whole shit ton of 99 bananas. And we got some Jack Daniels on that. National Association of Music Merchants. We had the Uber driver pull over to CBS on the way to the convention and get us a big handle. Jack Daniels, we were walking around that place with a bottle of Jack Daniels. No, actually we had to hide it on the rooftop. That's right. Oh, yeah. We did. We had a little roof behind the little palm tree. Yeah, every time we did it. Was there like a roof access, like a bar or a patio up there? There was a parking lot. Okay, it was like the top floor of the parking lot. It wasn't like you guys found a stairwell and like smuggled your way under the roof. No, so no, we had the bottle of Jack and then we didn't want to like walk around the place with it, so we had our cups right. Fair, a handle bottle, probably. Yeah, so we hit it up on the roof on one of the little planter boxes. Yep. We hit it up there. Oh, that was crazy. Oh, yeah. We went up there several times a day to get some. We all need refills. Let's go back up. And then we ended up sitting there drinking the whole freaking bottle of Jack Daniels. Yeah, we did get a little hammered. We ended up on the sidewalk. I was arguing. I remember arguing with the Uber guy. I'm like, why is it taking so long? You're just doing fucking circles, bro. That was the night where we had to drag you guys home. No, we don't want to go home. Who's we? Me and Rob had to drag him home. Oh, yep. He's like, no, I don't want to go. We're like, come on. We got to go. I don't want to. That's just a Saturday night for me. Yeah, I'll bet. I don't drink like that too often. No, but getting you to go home. Oh, yeah. You always wanting to go home. A rain in my parade, sweet curbs. No, I just don't need to be the last person. Oh, you're never the last person. No, it's you. Ever. Sweet curbs always stifling me, but it's okay. I love you. You know you love me. I love you too. Now, how did you guys get connected to musicians? Oh, gosh. We were in another band together called Chasing the Sun. And before that, we were back on the chain game. I know, right? We were having band rehearsal or something. And he showed up with Jessica, who was in our lead singer in our band. We'd never met Travis and she says, "I'm going to bring a friend." So he comes over and he's jamming with us and we were having fun and stuff. And then he ended up joining our band and we were in that band for, gosh, I don't know how many years. That was fun. Two years? Yeah. That was fun. And then things kind of unraveled there. And then we started Dirty Confetti. Yeah. Well, they wanted to take a break from music. And I didn't want to take a break from music and Rob didn't want to take a break from music. So I was like, "Hey, man, do you want to just do something on our own, like country stuff?" And he's like, "I'm not really a country guy, but all right, let's do it." We converted him. Look at you now, Rob. Same thing with Doc, man. Doc, a bass player. He was a blues player. Yeah, it was just like serendipitous. Like, "Doc, do you want to play country with us?" He's like, "country?" Yeah. Let's do it. Yeah. And then, yeah, we did our first gig. I'm not going to say where. Yeah. And then, cilantro. Cilantro. Speaking of that, cilantro. Cilantro. Speaking of cilantro. Cilantro, yeah. For those of you listening right now, if you don't know, excuse me, if you don't know what cilantro is, that is our new way of saying cheers. Right. But when I say cheers anymore, we say cilantro. No, we don't. Better. And we've been doing that for 20-some-odd episodes. And now, you're going to reveal how the whole thing came about. We're going to share the story. All right. So Wendy was the creator of that. She's going to trade money. I know. She wants a quarter every time somebody says it. I do. You've got to patent it. I'm going to make millions and millions of dollars. Oh, quarters. All right. When you give us the lowdown, how did you come up with cilantro? Okay, here's the lowdown. So, I'm in a band called Dirty Confetti, as we mentioned before. And we're at a gig on Thursday night at Ramona Family Naturals, where we play every night from 5.30 to 8 p.m. Ding, ding. And people were shouting out, we said, "We can't say this word anymore, so give us some different ways to raise your glass." So, people start shouting out, "This, that, the other, all these fancy French words." Salute. Well, I know salute. I can remember that one. But there was something, not ceviche, but-- It's cilantro. That's Irish. And I was like, "What did you say? Cilantro?" And I could never remember any of the fancy toast that anybody gave up. So, I ended up with cilantro. I can remember that because it's my second favorite herb. I love cilantro. I see what you did there. Second favorite herb. Your second favorite herb. Oh, I almost asked what was the first one. He's like, "You gotta ask." Do you know some people do not like cilantro? It tastes like soap to them? It's actually a genetic thing. Yeah. I like cilantro. You can't put in too much, so you have to put in just the right amount. I like cilantro, isn't it? So, I started saying cilantro, and people would look at this kind of weird, but then it caught on, and then me and my husband went down to Tulum, Mexico. And we shared it down there, and by the time we left there, everybody's raising their glass in cilantro. And then Ashley E. Norton, one of our local musicians, went to Europe recently. And she sent me a video of her sharing cilantro, and she's spreading it all through the bars there, so people that don't live here think it's like an American thing now. So, John Haas is saying it in Buffalo, New York, where he plays out there. It's going viral, y'all. I'm such a trend-setter, and I didn't even know it. I love it. Cilantro. Cilantro, y'all. Cilantro, everybody. Cilantro too, my friends. Heck yeah. We're going to give a shout-out real quick to our sponsor. A little outlaw barbecue. When do you've had a barbecue? I've had Dean's meat. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, it's delicious. Yeah, it's really good. Best meat. There is in Ramona. He smokes himself. He hunted himself. He does all the stuff on his own. So, give him a call today. 858-354-7712. If you want to book any outdoor events like barbecues. Divorces. Hailgates. Divorces. Festivals. Up to 150 people he can cater up to. Give him a call, and remember, nobody likes to party with salads. They got to have the meat. Meat? There it is. Oh my word. Alright, so, Wendy, what else? What next song do you want to listen to? What do we doin'? Uh, let's do some, uh, I don't know. Do you got any dirty confetti? Well, heck. Does a bear shit in the woods? I think so. I think so. Pretty sure. Let's do some dirty confetti. [laughter] Let's do some dirty confetti. [laughter] It's a long try. 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I don't think I've ever done an acoustic version of that before. - Well, you have now. - Yeah. - Do it live! - We'll do it live! - I knew you were going to ask. I knew you were going to ask. - We'll do it live, fuck it! Do it live! I can all write it and we'll do it live! - Yup. - Oh, good old pillow, right? - The best part is, I just saw that full clip the other day he was showing it to me and right after that, he sits down and he's like, "Welcome back." And this is, like, totally calm and like, like, collected and like, signs off the show and then it's over. - He gets right into it. - I know. He's like, all pissed off, y'all look like furious and then he just goes back, "All right, you know, back to the show, we're going to go." - Yeah, it was so funny. We actually did that song in Temecula at a contest and we won what best, gosh, I can't remember the category, but we won our category doing that song. - Yeah. - A couple of years back, yeah, Temecula. - We did that one. - I'll get you a little trophy. - Yeah. - They never sent us the trophy. - Wow. - They were supposed to send it, we never got it. - I know we were supposed to get a trophy, but you're friggin' rough next. We don't get shit, man. - It's all right. We don't need no stinkin' trophies. - We just want the glory and the bragging rights. - That's right. It wasn't even a partist. We actually won. - We won. - There was no participation trophy. We actually won. - Yeah, we won it. - We actually won. - We did. - That's why I'm cool. And it was two original songs. What was the other song we did? - Oh gosh. - Great. - The one that we did. - The one that we did. - The one that we did. - Yeah. - The one that we just played a minute ago, and the one that's the intro to the show. - Theme song. - Theme song. - It is a theme song. - It is a theme song. - Oh man. - That's funny. So you brought your husband with you? - I did. - Who coincidentally happens to also be a musician. - Coincidentally, he's in our band. - What? - He's in the band too. - He's in the band. - Oh my gosh. - He's been a drummer for-- - Shot. - Since he was, I don't know, like-- - Fucking drummers. They always get their cool chicks. - Like five years old or something. - I know. - What did they say? - Fucking drummers get hummers. - You're so dumb. - This is what I heard. - I don't know. - Should've been a drummer then I guess. - No, there's too much equipment. You don't want to marry a drummer. - I know. - I always tell Rob if something happens to you, I'm going to marry somebody who plays a-- - A kazoo player? - Yeah, a kazoo player. - Yeah, exactly. - Harmonica. - Harmonica, that would be awesome. - Harmonica player. - You know what, shout out to all the drummers out there for toting all your heavy shit. - That's a lot of shit. - You'd think they'd make it like carbon fiber or something by now. But it's a little bit lighter, you know. - I wonder if they'd make carbon fiber drums. I don't know. We'll have to ask the drummer when he gets on here. - I bet they would. Or maybe aluminum stuff. - We can get Rob one of those drum kits that's like the fake, just those little platform, like the pedals. You know what I'm talking about? - The electric drums. - And it like-- - Hell yeah. - The mixer drum. - Okay, so funny. - It's so satisfying. - So funny story. If you know Rob Kraft, he's a big dude. When you're like six, three, round there. Big dude. And when we played at that thing in Temecula, they actually put him on one of those little electronic drum sets. - Wow. - He looked like he was playing like a little kid set. Like it was fucking hilarious. - From Sures that you order from the Sears catalog. - So I wasn't nervous about playing that thing, but I don't like doing that type of shit where I'm like in front of like eight people and like they're judging me. I don't like that. But I wasn't nervous. I was just like kind of annoyed. But when I look back and saw Rob on that thing, like everything just changed my mind. I was like, okay, this is going to be fucking hilarious. (laughing) - It was funny. - And I instantly relaxed and I was like, all right, let's just fucking play these songs to get it done. (laughing) - That's funny. - That was funny. - Oh, it was good stuff. - Well, can we hang out with Rob for a few minutes? Can we say hi to him? - Yeah. - Oh dude, I want to hear about that. - Let's do a music break. - Yeah, let's take a little break. - What do you want to hear, Wendy? - Sticks. - No. - You know what? We'll give her some sticks. - You want to hear some sticks? - Come on, give me some sticks, y'all, please. - It wasn't, it was Victoria. - Oh yeah. - That we let her show us. - Speaking of Victoria, sweet curves. (laughing) - Oh yes. - Every time we say Victoria. - We're just going to keep saying Victoria. - We got that little bell. - Do I get my own sounds? - At Romona Family Naturals, we thank you for your sponsorship. - Yeah. - We thank you for your support of the music and the music community in Ramona. - Heck yeah. - Thank you so much. Go check them out. - We have music every Thursday, Sunday brunch. - Yeah. - Delicious food. - Some Fridays and Saturdays as well. So check out their Facebook page. - Yeah. - Thank you so much for your sponsorship. - Music for sure every Thursday. - Yeah. - And most Sundays, she's having a brunch with usually like a single or like a duo artist, kind of acoustic, kind of deal. And they're really good. They usually have really good. - They have sandwiches to go. - They have sandwiches to go. - Some of those sandwiches to go. - Some of those sandwiches to go. - Some of those sandwiches to go. - They have smoothies, they got bowls. - Yeah. - They got it all. - All right, let's speak. Okay. Yes. - About 100 percent. - Sticks. - Sticks. - But it is an outwater country show. Can you think of a stick song that might kind of fit that pattern? - That might be kind of country. - Come on. - Oh my gosh. - If you're a stick's nut. - You know what Tommy Shaw did some albums that were like blue grass and that kind of stuff. - All right. Well, let's hear something like that. Okay. What do you got? - Nothing. - Nothing. (laughter) - All right. - I told you not to give me whiskey. - Give me whiskey. - They went by memory. - What is it? - Sound the alarm. - Sound the alarm. - Is that Sticks or is that? - That's a newer stick song. That's the newer generation of sticks since Dennis Deung left the band back in the day. - Oh, that's fine. - All right. - All right. Let's see the little sticks in here. We come back. We're going to hang out with Rob for a few minutes. - Yeah. - All right. Hey Wendy, thanks for coming and hanging. - Thank you. - Thank you for having me. - Thank you Wendy. - I appreciate it. - Thanks Wendy. We'll see you next Thursday. - Thank you. (music) - Sound the alarm. Let the world around you know the time has come for us to go. Is it too late to make a mess? Sound the alarm. Look at all that we've been through. And all the things we meant to do. But the time just blew by. Sound the alarm. Take shelter with the ones you love. Maybe someday we can rise above. 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I think it's great. - No, thank you. - I think it's brandy or something. - All right, so yeah, I can't-- - Maybe it brings out the flavors. - You know how there's those coffee drinks where they put alcohol in there? - I can't do hot alcohol, dude. It makes me like, takes my breath away when I like breathe in, and I'm like-- - Like an Irish coffee? - Yeah. - Ooh, Irish coffee's good. Mexican coffee's good. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Rob, what's your usual go-to drink? - Wine. - Wine, guys in my nose. - Some fancy-- - A lot of wine. - You don't look like a wine guy, dude. - From all wines. - Hey, all the cool kids drink wine. - Dude, I don't have a man since I've been playing, since we've been playing at the wineries and shit, man, and that's, I drink a lot of wine. It's crazy, I never thought I would be a wine guy. - Wait, Travis, 'cause we back up 30 seconds? - 30 seconds. - You mentioned Rob's name, but she didn't tell me who he is. - Rob Crafts, you know. - Rob Crafts, okay. - I don't know nothing about-- - Let me tell y'all who Rob Crafts is. - Sorry. - If you've ever watched or seen Dirty Confetti perform, he's the guy in the back that's sitting down that's taller than everybody, even when he's still sitting down, he's the drummer. (laughing) - There you go, now we know. - He's a bad-- - Rob's the drummer. - He's one of the most bad-ass drummers I know, personally, in real life. - Oh, thank you. - I would agree. - Oh, yeah, dude. You hold it down. So, your Mrs. Wendy was talking about a crazy concert that you guys went to. Who was it? Kenny Chesney? - Kenny Chesney. - Kenny Chesney, okay, dude. You gotta tell me about this concert. - Real big fan of Kenny Chesney. So, this year, I wanna do something different, and I booked a whole bunch of concerts so that I didn't tell my wife about. So, I just told her, hey, on this day, pack a bag for a couple days, we're gonna go somewhere. And so we did, and we drove to Phoenix, Arizona, and she didn't know what the heck we were there for. - Rob, how hot was it in Phoenix? - Oh, dude, it had been hot. - It was 121 degrees. - Yeah, I remember seeing your post on Facebook and being like, holy cow. - Every day. - Every day. - So, you know, we made a couple days of it and did some stuff in Phoenix and actually saw some people that usually come to Ramona only out in Phoenix, Tucson, or that area, and no Scottsdale. And it was really fun. So, but finally, it came time for the concert night, and Wendy didn't even know what we're doing until we actually showed up at the venue. And she saw the big sign. She's like, oh my God, we're going to Kenny Chesney. I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's so cool. So, it was a total surprise, and we got there, it was 121 degrees. We sat in the car with air running until the last second to get in there and see the concert. So, we drank a bottle of Ramona wine and went in there, 121 degrees, and as we were going inside, I saw this little cloud that was just blocking the sun, just a little tiny thing in the distance. And I was like, that's perfect, that's so nice, you know, that it's blocking the little sun. And I think we saw Meghan Moroni. She opened up the concert and was, she was amazing, but, you know, you could see her whole band, and then she was just like red, 'cause it was 121 degrees. And that cloud in the distance grew until it was the entire landscape behind the concert. And you could see lightning, and it was getting darker, and darker, and darker. And through her concert, you know, it was really awesome. It ended, and it was time for, you know, the little influx between Kenny coming up there. And all of a sudden, that cloud, and that whole thing grew and came over us, and it was lightning, thundering. It was freaking scary, man, 'cause we were not in the covered area. And it was, you know, raining, and lightning. - Did it get cooler at all, or we're still really hot? - It did not get cooler. - I bet. - It was still 120 degrees. - I bet. It's probably a million degrees. - Probably a million degrees. - And so it was something else, and I got pictures of lightning, like striking all around us, and everything, and we waited, got some more wine for Kenny to come out there, and then it was delayed, so it was like an hour delay, and then we got another some more wine. And then finally, the big red screens come up, and it's like shelter in the bathrooms of your car immediately. Severe storm warning, you know, we're like, oh my god, go to the bathroom. - There's not enough room in the bathrooms for like hundreds of thousands of people, whatever, I don't know. Well, you know, it was a big venue, so I'm like, that's not gonna happen. I kind of looked around, I'm like, no one's moving, so I guess we're okay, you know? I mean, no one's-- - That's the gauge. What is everyone else doing? - Yeah, that's right. Well, I'm certainly not gonna go to the car, so we sat it out. - Oh, thundering. - I sat it out, yes. And it was crazy weather, still 121 degrees, and finally, after an hour and a half, they came up and said it was canceled. So we went to Arizona for three days to see Candy Chesney, and it didn't happen. - Damn, dude. - But we had a great time. - Did they refund tickets or anything like that? - They said they were gonna, but he just played the next day, we didn't know he was gonna play the next day 'til we're halfway to California, coming back, and we're like-- - So the second day was gonna be just like a-- - A makeup concert. - A makeup concert? - But we didn't know that, so we missed the makeup concert because we had a gig Thursday night, the day we came back. - Oh, yeah, yeah. - Family natural, so we came back and we're loyal to our stuff, and I missed the makeup concert, and that's the story, but it was a lot of fun. We had a great time. - You know what's funny, how it's the times that it doesn't work out like you hoped, that actually make the best memories. - Is an adventure. - You know, I mean, it's like, I'm on one of those that when you get a flat tire on a highway, I'm like, "Cool, I have a fun story to tell." You know what I mean? - It depends on if it's 121 degrees or no. - Yeah, it's 121, I just do it now. - Yeah, yeah. - Then they see a dude streaking down the highway. - Yeah. (laughing) - That's so hot out here, he's lost his mind. (laughing) - Fried his brain. (laughing) - Damn. - Oh man. - So Rob, you're from Ramona, right? - Yep. - You grew up here, you went to high school here? - Class of '83. - Class of '83, damn, dude. And did you know Wendy in high school? - Um, I really didn't, she probably didn't wanna know me. - She was in a long hair man. - She knew that you were the kid. - She was like the snobby. - I was like the total rocker dude. - You were one of the emos? - I looked angry all the time. - You were an emo. - No, I was not an emo. - Yeah, 'cause you looked hungry. - No, that was an 80's. - You were like, "Oh, it's skinny." - And he wore like half shirts and stuff. - I was like, 120 pounds, what? (laughing) - Yep. - You listened to the cure? - No. - No, no. (laughing) - What's up, man? All hard rock stuff, really hard. - Wait, what year did Wendy graduate? - Like were you guys in high school at the same time? You just didn't know each other? - What was the, yeah. - She graduated in what, 86? - And you graduated at 84? - 83. - 83. - So I was like a senior when you were a freshman. - Yeah, okay, so you were there at the same time. You just didn't know each other. - Yeah, yeah, she wouldn't have wanted to know me at the time. - Was it Ramona High School? - Oh, yeah, yeah. - It was Ramona High. - Wow. - Wow, you were a bulldog. - I was a bulldog, yeah. - Did you know any of when he siblings then it'll like throw out of high school? - I tried to date a lot of them. I don't know. (laughing) Just kidding. (laughing) - I'm trying to date a shot in your God's sake. - I know, now I want to know what you want. - You know, actually her dad butchered for our family. So our cows and stuff were butchered by her dad. And I didn't even know back then. - Yeah. - I know, I had a client at the salon. I don't know how we were talking about it, but we're, we're talking about dirty confetti. Maybe you guys were playing somewhere when I was inviting her. And she said the percussionist, Wendy, does she live where that cow is? And I said, yeah, that was her dad. They live on the, where they used to do the butchering and stuff. And she goes, I have vivid memories of being a little kid. And they're in their probably mid 40s. Going with my dad as a little kid with my sister and taking our cow and my dad would make us wait in the car and we'd hear a gunshot and we'd just start sobbing. I didn't mean to. I'd be like, first of all, it's kind of messed up. Second of all, yeah, that's like Wendy's family that's going back. He put you at our cow and I was, I played with that cow. I raised it and I did not go home and I knew that they were coming over to kill my cow. Damn. So that's heartbreaking. You got to eat and I love snakes. That was a great cow. It was a many good snakes. Before and after? That was a nice cow, it was delicious. I loved it. I know Travis said he wanted to get a cow and I said, that's fine, but we got to raise it somewhere else. Because if it comes to our house, it's not leaving our house. Yeah, we have goats and stuff and we don't eat it. We don't eat them. We don't eat them. They're happy. Happy, happy fat goats. Happy fat goats. You know what the goats do is they do keep down the weeds around the house. There you go. Yeah. So they do serve a purpose. A good purpose. I don't have to weed wax so often. Especially because I hate weed whacking. I was going to say we've been together five years. I don't think it's going to be weed wax, not one time. You got to get out of here. I have once. I want some goats. Do you remember that time? Like three years ago I weed waxed. Oh yeah. I like that three years ago. But all of a sudden, then there were two goats on the front porch. Yeah. You can borrow the goats. I've had people ask me, can I borrow your goats? Oh yeah. Yes. Is there like a rental fee? I don't know. Oh yeah. Goats for hire. Goats are way too friendly. Not only that. If you could have seen us trying to move from our house in Ramona to the house in San Isabel and trying to wrangle these goats into a trailer. He was a back of his Jeep. No, we had a friend that led us here. It was a motorcycle trailer but it had windows in it so it was like ventilated and we put them in there but you would have thought we were trying to lead them to slaughter for real. Like they were not about it. Yeah, they were not happy about that. Of course they didn't put a collar on them and they were like, what is this? Bucking the other one. I thought I was going to break it's back because it would like buck up and fall over. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty bad. All right. Back to the music. All right. Back to the stories. All right. So Rob, we have. Who are your biggest musical audiences? Yeah. Yeah. Rock and roll. Definitely. It's upland. It's Rush. All the good stuff from backstage. Rush. Neil Perk. Yeah. Van Halen. Got the one of the best. All the good drummers. Best drummers in the world. Yeah. Neil Perk. I don't know. Who's your best drummer in the world? Neil Perk. Yeah. It's my favorite. How'd you get into the drum? I don't see he's the best because there's a thousand different types of styles of music. So there's jazz and there's progressive jazz and there's rock and there's progressive rock and you just go on and on. I mean the guy in Def Flipper is pretty good if you can do it with one arm. I got to say. It drops for that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is way good. So Rush is your inspiration for drumming? Absolutely. Yeah. Right on. Right. You know what's cool about Rush? There were three-piece bands. Yeah. Three-piece bands. Singer. And what did he play? Keys, right? Yeah. With his feet. Yeah. And then... I feel like he didn't do that. I feel like he didn't do that. I feel like he didn't do that. Or he played bass with his feet and played the keys with his hands either way. Back and forth. Oh dude. That's an amazing band. Actually, they did three-piece band and they sound incredible. They sound like a... I love Rush. Rush is rad. It's pretty long. Now, how long have you been playing drums? Were you a high school drummer? Um, yeah. In the marching band? Yep. Yep. The moment of marching band, it was something else back then. Not something to be proud of at that time. Did you carry the four times? No, I just did the snare. Just the snare? Yeah. All right. Were you in like parades and stuff like that? Did some parades. Yeah. They had like uniforms from 1920. They put on that was like stinky. They didn't have a lot of budget at the time. No one had dry cleaned them since 1920. Exactly. Yeah. That was really the biggest deal. Bobs and mousties. Oh, mousties. Musty moldy smelling. Yeah. We did it. Oh, man. So yeah, back then, like in the '80s, like being in band, I mean, even when I was in high school, like being in band, you were kind of a nerd. Like, it's just weird to me, like, no, you were in band Eric. I knew it. I was in band. I was not. I wasn't. I wasn't in band in high school, but I was in a band when I was in high school. But I didn't, you know, learn any of the theory part of music or anything like that, which I wish I would have, actually, but I never did because yeah, it was always the nerds in the band, and I think that's a nerdy thing. There you go. Dude, we were the cool drummers. We were cool. The drummer. We were cool. What'd you play in band? In high school? Yeah. Trombone. Trombone. I was in the brass group, man. I was at the cool kids in the back. I actually just got rid of it a few years ago. All right. I'm going to get a Christmas present. Yeah. It's going to be a trombone. I want to hear you play trombone, bro. I tried to play the clarinet in sixth grade, but I can never get the little read to work. I started on the clarinet in, like, fourth grade, and I played the clarinet up until middle junior high. We call it junior high. Yeah. For those listening, it's junior high. What? Is that sixth grade? Middle school? Yeah, somewhere around there. Yeah. And then all the cool kids were in the back. The brass guys were always so fucking fun. I was like, I got to get with these guys. I know. I says, when I play the trombone, it looks fun. And so I switched to the trombone in junior high, and I played it. Dude, I was in -- I went to Disneyland and played in the Dix -- you ever been to Disneyland in the little square, the Dixieland Square? Yes, I played. I didn't play it. And they always had that four-piece little Dixieland band in there? I sang with my choir there in sixth grade, but sixth grade choir wasn't elective. I didn't have to try out. I wouldn't have been choir if I had to try out. I just signed up. They said you're in this sing. Yeah. They got to travel. It was cool. It was fun. Yeah, I know. I haven't been to Disneyland since eighth grade, bro. It's been around what? '89, '88, '89, '88. Any nights I'm running? Yeah. I don't know. I'm just not a big fan of Disneyland. I don't like big crowds. I don't like the lines and all that shit. And the rides were kind of lame. I remember -- Buzzkill. I remember when I was there. I just don't like it. Anyway, I remember that ride just came out. Was that Michael Jackson thing? It wasn't a ride. What was that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Captain Neo. Yeah. Yeah. That's the last time I went out there. The Disneyland. That's my room. That's my room there anymore. Yeah. Very expensive. Who knows? All right, Rob. What kind of music? This is me. That's you? Nothing. [Laughter] Sit down on the boat. Was that a thing here? I can see you doing that. Little kids, when I went to school, I did learn -- I just had a core memory. We learned how to play the recorder in fourth grade. And like we played like three blind mice and hop cross buns, there's the two songs that we learned how to play. And the damn school made all the parents come and listen to that shit. Yeah. It was horrible. Yeah. I learned the recorder and we learned how to square dance. And we had it like a square dance thing. I remember the square dance thing. And it was like swing your partner promenade. Yeah. Yeah. Now promenade me, you son of a bitch. [Laughter] Or there's one called Dosey Doe, like I don't -- I remember the words I can tell you what the moves are. A yellow ribbon. Around the old three? A yellow ribbon. Around the yellow. Around the yellow. That was my elementary school. But I remember kids getting recorders. I never got one. You didn't learn? You didn't learn? I got everybody getting one. I didn't. They don't give you a quarter. You can go buy one tomorrow. Nah, nah. I'm pretty good. What's the difference? All right. So did Travis get you into country music then? Did you come kicking and screaming? I mean, I grew up -- my parents were a big country, you know, music fans. Back in really old days, country and western, you know. Country and western? Yes. That's right. It's the good stuff. It's like rhinestone cowboy. It's the Hanks. You know, Travis joined one of the bands I was in, and, you know, so we covered so many different types of music. It was crazy. But when we brought Travis in, he would play some countries. So kind of, I was like, oh cool, now we got country mixed in with all this weird other stuff we played. Yeah. Well, it was great stuff if they're listening. [Laughter] Yeah, I liked it, but it was a lot of different things, and, you know, I do like country, and I've kind of grown to love it a lot more as we've been playing it, and especially the old stuff that we do, you know, classic country and the outlaw country. So it's a lot of fun. As a drummer, is it more -- do you find it more of a challenge, or is it more simple? It's a pretty simple -- It's pretty simple, and what I try to do live is just really force the rhythm, you know, to keep people, you know, flopping. Just driving. Yeah. Yeah. And I think I've told this to Rob. Like, if you play guitar and sing, then you just play guitar and sing. If you play keyboard and sing, whatever. The drummer's doing like 17 different things, like his foot's doing one thing on a thing, his one hand's doing one thing, his other hand's doing something else. I'm one of those that can't scratch, you know, what's that rub their head or just tap their head and rub their belly at the same time. I can do that. I can do that. I can do that. I can do that. I can do that. I'm using everything and thinking about our next drink. And everything's on a different mission, am I? It's wild. I know. We've done most of the -- all the songs that we do so many times, it's almost like muscle memory. And I feel like that sometimes when we're playing, especially when we're playing like out at Josie's when we're drinking heavily. And I'm just like, I could do a verse and I'm like, wait, did we already -- did I already sing this verse? Hold on. Wait, what's the next verse? Because I'm not one of those types of musicians, no offense to any of the musicians out there that use tablets, but I just don't do -- I just don't use them. I just can't do it. I'm not going to -- I can't sit there and read and play guitar and sing at the same time. I have to either know the song or I don't know the song. I don't read -- And it's okay, because it has band members, and if he's seen the same verse again, we just like go with it. Yeah, we do. And it's a four-minute song now. And the truth is most -- and the truth is most people in the audience don't catch it. No. It doesn't matter. I know. I know. I know. I know. Because every song I'm like, you're just saying that verse. But when I do catch it, when I do catch it, I look back at everybody and they're like, ah, you're fine. God damn it. This is going to be a really long song now. Don't say that. Sorry, God damn it. That's not even better. That's not even better. This is going to be a really long song now, so we're doing the verse again. But, man, yeah, we're all on the same page, usually when we play together and we pick up each other's if anybody makes mistakes. Sometimes, Doc makes mistakes. He makes mistakes. I make mistakes. Wendy makes mistakes. But that's it. And the audience, no one knows. Wendy never makes mistakes. When I used to do plays, and someone would go up on a line and then we'd be backstage and they're like, ah, I fucked it up. I'm like, nobody knew. Nobody knew. We knew because we know the script. They have no idea. You're fine. You have no idea. All right. All right, Rob. Give us a song. Yeah. Let's see. Let's see. Let's look at our clock here so we can play a couple songs and then we come back and I don't. Here's my thoughts. It's been a couple episodes since we've done trivia. All right. Music trivia. Let's do name that tune again. Name it a tune or trivia? What do you want? Same. Wait, if you're going to do trivia too. I've got to give this back to Wendy. No. Here's what I was going to lose. I was going to lose. Here's what I was going to say. You guys can tag him in. Yeah. Yeah. She at least has a shot at it. No. I think you guys should be able to tag team because really it takes four people to beat that girl. All right. So you guys just get sick closer together by the bottom. So let's play. Honestly, at least if I do lose, I'd be like, I'll ask to two people, but it took two people to take me down. She's got a brag about that, too. You guys could not let her win. If she if she loses to a team. It's like playing a baseball game against the team that all the players only have one arm. It's like if you win, you're like, oh, I beat a bunch of people with one arm. If you lose, you're like, damn it, I lost a bunch of people with one arm. Which is worse, though. Which is worse. All right. So there's what I think. They have a total of four arms and four legs between them. We're fine. Yeah. All right. Give us a song to take us into the break. Oh, man. That was serious. Let's do it. What do you want? Let's do one of your, one of the old, old country favorite ones that you're like. Old country. Oh my God. I wasn't prepared for this. First song. One, two, three, go. You got to do Kenny Chesney. All right. I want to play Kenny Chesney. I mean, Travis won't ever learn any, but that's okay. I like Kenny Chesney. Okay. Which favorite Kenny Chesney's on? Just pick a good one. Pick out forever feels. All right. All right. Hold on. Now you got a friend of her. Isn't it? No shirt, no shoes, no problem. There you go. That's a great one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's another good one. No shoes. You cannot go wrong. No shirt. No problem. That's a good one. What do you want? Yeah. Just pick one. All right. Thank you. Have a good day. Have a good night. Have a good night. Have a good night. 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