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2830: NW. Addressing Juba's Water Crisis: Insights from City Council Leaders on Tanker Driver Protests and Solutions
(upbeat music) - Nationwide, we bring you latest current issues, discussions and information. (upbeat music) Nationwide on Radio Miralia. - Hello and welcome to Nationwide. My name is Sany Marti. We're coming to you live from Juba and today we are going to be discussing something very important. If you live in Juba, you have been experiencing issues due with water, you no longer see this water tank as driving past your house and you wake up in the morning, you stand by the roadside, call them. It has been so challenging for people living here in Juba. So, we are going to be discussing that and our line should be open to you later and where you can call on 091-206-7929 or 091-206-78-79. Over the past few days in Juba, water tankers, drivers have been protesting or striking over a fixed amount of 2,500 SSP per drum within the municipality and 3,500 SSP outside Juba County. The water tankers driver says it is very impossible to reduce the price of water given the price of water in the water tankers. The water tankers' driver says it is very impossible to reduce the price of water given the fact that the price of fuel is very expensive and also maintaining the vehicle or buying spare parts is a challenge for them. So, what is being done by the authorities of Juba City Council to address these grievances and allow people to buy water as it used to be? I am joined here by two of my guests, Deputy Mayor for Administration and Finance, six-week Mayor did, you are most welcome to Redeemer. Thank you very much, Sam Martin. OK, and also I have Juma Moses, who is the Deputy Mayor for Infrastructure and Environment, Marhabic. Thank you, good evening viewers. OK, and let's begin right away with the Juma Moses. First tell us, we understand that was a meeting today with the Association of Water Tankers. Tell us the outcome of the meeting. Yes, thank you, thank you viewers once again. Today we had a meeting between our City Council and the water tank Association. And we discussed a number of issues on why they are not complying with the orders or directives of our Mayor that were issued on the 16th of September this month. And in our conversation, they have raised the number of issues. They have raised number of issues that includes high prices of fuel, lubricants, and the economy itself. So that is why they are not complying with the orders. So what was the conclusion after the meeting? Have we agreed or still disagree with them? Yes, we had this conversation. We agreed that one. Today must go on ground and give our people water on the prices of 2,500 within the city area and 3,500 outside the city area until we reach a conclusion with them. So it was an decision that was reached out today for them to be able to reach out to the public on emergency. But tomorrow we will be able to sit again to find a lasting solution into this matter. OK, tell us more about the genesis of this protest by the water tankers you have to go and meet. And there are a lot of news circulating online on social media that you had to also consult. They lead to an ambassador to South Sudan so that they can intervene and convince these water tankers. So tell us more. What is the genesis of this protest? Thank you very much, Sonny Martin and all the views which are listening to us within South Sudan and outside South Sudan. Good evening to everybody. Today we held a meeting as my brother said, the Give it to me for infrastructure and environment. In that meeting, I was the one sharing, and it was a co-share, as you people know, is a Give it to me also. And from there, he left to go and attend another meeting, which I was also to attend with him together, but I have delegated him to go and attend. So with the me remaining, with the CEO and the director of Give-A-Blox and the driver's union of Iranian water tankers association, we agreed with the numbers, with so many numbers, which we were discussing with them. One of them, we agreed that they are supposed to take water to our people in this same price, which was given as a order by the Mayor of the Give-A-City Council. Without any doubt, they should give water to our citizens. The second one, we agreed that we are going to sit down, and we continue talking so that we reach a compromise agreement which they are not going to change by themselves alone. If they wanted to change anything, they will come back to Give-A-City Council. Rather than they go and put their own price. So we agreed also that we are going to continue talking, which we are going to start tomorrow with my brother here, and the director of Give-A-Blox plus the CEO. - That's it. Give-A-B-I-M-Catorade Monique. - Yes. So in that side, what they have been talking have been about by my brother. The one they were saying, they were saying that they were not consulted, the decision was taken without their knowledge. And you know for them they are stakeholders, of which we said they are right. The other thing also, they were talking about it is the fuel price. With all of us, we know the other one they were talking about, it is the cost of the spare part. The other one they were talking, it is the charges which were leveled against them. If they did not take the water and they are arrested, it is 3,000, it is 350,000. The other one with the average, it is the number plate which you are removed by the Give-A-City Council. But those issues we told them that, the two one, the charges and the number plate, we told them that we are going to discuss them tomorrow. They will come with the lease with their cast number plate who are removed and will solve them. They will not be charged anything. They will be given back to them and they go and do. So they have agreed that they are going to take water. So that meeting is actually Finnegan too. So, should we say that the water tankers can now begin supplying water to people in Juba? That is correct. Now, first of all, this is not the first time these water tankers are protesting. The last time we talked to you on phone, they also went on strike, protesting a lot of issues. What is the best way of ensuring that this kind of thing does not repeat itself again in Juba town? Thank you very much. The best way is the one which we are approaching now. The best way is that both of us, they return water tankers as a session and the City Council should sit together as a stakeholders and agreed on something which is not going to repeat itself again. Something which we will agree that you should also accept and the government should accept. But what should be the high thing here is now, the decision of the government should be the one, to be the one leading, not the decision of the water tankers as a session. Why? Because if actually the people who would have sat down as the way they have sat and they discuss having the meeting together so that they can agree it and that order, it would have been issued, they would have sat down and they don't want to adore by the law which are given to them by the government, now the City Council was having the right to issue the law. But they were not consulted. So that one also we said, there is no problem. Another thing also which I wanted to say, which I did not say before, is that I wanted to appreciate the the ship of the temples of South Sudan, you know, the wall in person, that yesterday I was spoken to him and this morning he have sent me two water tankers to go and supply our citizens and they actually did. These water tankers went after far, beyond Goodely and he got people actually, yes. And he got people, actually these people did not get the water. And in that water tanker, he was taken 120 drums. Okay, so how much was this? The normal price? The normal price. They are 2,200 and 50, 2,500. Okay, Moses, you have had the water tankers are saying that they were not consulted. Why, why, they're not consulted? Because one of the concern they are also raising is that if you want them to reduce the price of water in Dubai here, they are facing a lot of challenges. First of all, the spare parts are very expensive. They are being charged by traffic police all over the town. You are way about it. In every checkpoint one is in the morning, they will stop them by the other side. They give some money with that receipt. So why, why do not to consolidate, to get their opinion? Thank you. And if I may even ask, if I'm supposed to ask, why do these drivers and the water tankers apply us? Why do they even give money to these traffic police for what? Why do they give money? If you don't give you not pass, why? Because that's what is happening here in town, because you have seen every way in Dubai town, the traffic police will stop you and you have to give you a driving permit to him and then they will ask you for something and you pass. That requires that then they should be able to have their documents at a time. So why they consulted before these new charges were imposed on them, the two, five. Coming back to your question, why they were not consulted? You see, first of all, before this order was issued, there was a public outcry concerning the high prices of water by the citizens of Dubai, the citizens of Dubai. And then after this outcry, the parliament called, his worshiped the mayor, who come to parliament and asked and answered questions on why water prices are very high. And his worship gave a statement at the ground that the reason why this water is expensive or highly supplied, it is because of the issue of the fuel. And the parliament said, now what we need to do is that the prices are high, prices has to be brought down. And his worship asked if he can support me, I would be able to do that. So that was how the genesis of this order came from, yeah. So now when his worship came back and the people conveyed in the council, we have council and city council, before conveyed in a council, a discussion was done, and even our parliament was brought in in city council to analyze, to analyze these prices, why the prices are high. So in the analysis that was done in the council, in the executive council, people came with a resolution that, these prices of 6,000 are borrowed, it is exaggerated. It is exaggerated because the profits are mega-ligh huge that these people were making, you see? So now it was second to our parliament, it was deliberated, it was not a decision of one person, it was a decision of institution, council was involved, our parliament was involved, after our mayor was being summoned in the parliament, the national parliament. So my concern to the citizen is that they have seen this order as if city council is working against them, that is not the case. This order came as a result of the public outcry. So that was how the issue of this order came into place. Okay, so now, why this report were not consulted, that was your question. This report were not consulted because we did our own analysis, padram, padram. This report gets one drum at 600. Why? At the source of the knife. Yes, not at the source of the knife. At the water tank elevators. Yes. Because they are all over in town. Exactly. So these people get one drum at 600, so we padram, padram. And then we added in the cost of lubricants, we added in a cost of fuel, we added in a cost of other expenses to do the lunch and maybe salaries of the driver and the assistant. So we said, if that is the case, they still have profits. It has bring the prices to 2,500. That was why we reached a decision without consulting them. Okay. Right. Let's find out more before our lines are open. First of all, you had a deputy mayor for administration and finance and give us city council. Let me find out from your thinking, I'm already first of all now. Just clarify, in today's meeting, have the water tankers agreed to sell the water at their grid price like 2, 5 in the city center and 3, 5 outside the capacity council? Yes, they have agreed. And what they have agreed, they have agreed that we are going to come back and negotiate. Meanwhile, negotiating, they are supposed to sell water in that price. And after now, we finished the negotiation and we reached the concrete agreement which we agreed both of us between them and we as a deputy council authority, these were now, we'll sit down and we'll see. And what I have told them this afternoon, when I was meeting with them, I told them that your decision will not be powerful than the decision of the government. So actually, as you said, and my brother put it correct, they were consulted based on those issues with the, with the, with the, with the concrete. Now for them, when they were talking to us, they were only saying that they daily expenses for them or the running costs. For the running costs was 265,600. A day. A day. That is the expenses. They are saying that they are buying one 20 liter, that is 20 liter, that mean one Jircan with 100,000. The other fueling, filling station with a 54. The other, the revenue authority, you should, you should, you should understand this. The revenue authority are reaching to the same place. The revenue authority are getting 600. Now the driver's salary were 30,000. Now, yes, the assistant driver, salary were 15,000. The driver and the assistant driver lying for them in one day was 45. The patrol for the generator, which is two liter, was 10,000. They, and seen expenses, that is Tropic Police, this is what they are putting, they are getting 5,000. A day. A day. They are cleaner for the Indian 2000. They are saying the parking area when they finish. Yeah. In the, in the, in the evening hours, and then they go unpacking the police or in any nearby part of the station, the package with the 4,000. So if you put that total, it will come into 2,265,600 SSP. That is their estimate. Yes, their estimate. Now we have paid three things. One, I told them that this parking fee is not supposed to be charged into our citizen, because they are the one telling, they are not the one telling you they're going to park your car there. It is your own. We are telling them also, they lying. Where are these, these people going to eat, are they going to eat in a, in part of the hotel? Why are they eating this? It is not supposed to be a county to our people. Yeah. Conferences. So a lot of things, we clear them out here, but what we have agreed actually they have come to the same, that it is good, you people you have call us, and we are going to negotiate. Okay. Now, how many water tankers are we talking about here? But the last time you talked to us, I think it was about over 5,000. How many are we talking about it? In your record book. Now in my record book, according to what they have told us, they are selling us the Eritrean, the Eritrean alone are having 600. They saw Sudanese with their national lease. They are having 1,100. Yes. So that's about 1,700. So that's about 1,700. Those are the one operating in Juba. Yes. Okay. And you want to add something? Yes, I think what I just want to add briefly on what my brother has said is that as we continue negotiating, we need water tanker situations. We want cooperation from our citizens. We want cooperation from our citizens because this order that was issued. What kind of cooperation do you want? Because somebody comes to my door and I ask him, hey, the city council said I should buy water from you at 2.5. They pack and go. Yes. That is the cooperation. And I need water. I have no choice. Of course, you see, since last week on Tuesday, we were on operation, on the field, we had divided ourself into three groups. His worship, the mayor alone, was moving in Juba. I, the deputy mayor for infrastructure and the environment, I was in Munuki block. My brother here was in Qatar block. Yeah. We had the position and it deployed ourself with our kota guts and our directors, our zonal directors to have this water tankers, put our own personnel, go on the ground, pour our water on the prizes that we want. That was what we were doing. Okay. Why did you take you a very long time to come to this kind of today's meeting? Why? Were there water tankers? The reason why we took long, it was not, it was not our own making. First of all, we had a lot of things that we were doing in city council. That very week, the other week, before we went to the operation, that was the week that they received us in city council, me and my brother, when we went for our reception. So immediately after that, we started all our operations. There was, in my mind, you don't forget that we are just appointed. Yeah. We're just appointed the other Friday. So you have no time for honeymoon. (laughing) Before our lines have opened, because our lines have opened, now we find out from the people who have suffered so much. There was an idea, way back, that city council was to acquire water tank. What happened? Yeah, that is good. Actually, this is what we discussed last time. Even today, we received the committee from the parliament, the deputy chairperson of the committee of water and irrigation. He was with us, honorable my god. When he was with us, he was asking all those questions. He even told us that the council of ministers passed the resolution that nine million should be given to the minister of finance, to go to the minister of water and irrigation to go and buy the water tankers to bring them. What happened to those? This is the question also he was asking himself alone, not ask. So do you have an answer? We don't have the answer, because the money, we do not see them. The minister is the one to answer that. What happened? Because they passed it in the council, and he went to the parliament and the parliament debate on it. So what happened? Okay, our lines are now open. You can call us on 0-9-1-2-0-6-7-8-7-9, or 0-9-1-2-0-6-7-9-2-9. Or you can also call us on 0-9-1-2-0-6-8-1-0-1. And we are talking about (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) We have in the studio two of my guests, the deputy mayor for administration and finance, and also the deputy mayor for infrastructure and the environment at (speaking in foreign language) and call us with your questions, and they will be in person to answer them. Hello? Hello? Hello? Yes, from the master. Yes. You are connected to (speaking in foreign language) Okay, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Yeah. I think I wanted just to put or to add my voice to the guest in this studio. Mm-hmm. Most of the times, when government comes with the decision, people just take light of it without executing. Leaving our people in desperate need, more special in such services like water and others. So I think the decision made by the city council is clear, and even we are expecting even the decision to go, and even to lower the price of the water, because water is essential for human beings, and most of our people are, you know, stopping to death, more especially the education sectors and others will actually may not receive for quite, you know? So I think with the, to me, the decision have to be strengthened, and I really appreciate it. Okay. Thank you so much, Moses, from Tumbra, hello? Hello? Hello, Maria. Hi, I'm Arabic. Yeah, (speaking in foreign language) Good evening to your name. Yes, my name, we are connecting with (speaking in foreign language) Okay, (speaking in foreign language) Yes. My first greeting goes to honorable (speaking in foreign language) Yeah, the top is very, top is very nice, one. We know what about, what about things about that, one special media, and we see the, talking about the honorable talk also, which is the tick, and these people, we are very happy for the common, or we are very happy for the results. That way, it came out from the meeting. What I want to say is this, you know for us to find the solution is, for us to go back through where those who celebrate the pill is the, are the those who have the problem, but those who use the, who use the care water, okay, to what, to give the water for the people. Those who will run a problem, because when the fuel is, when the price of fuel is very low, it's okay for them. And they can give the water out for, they can give the water out for the, for the, for the, check the more money. Okay. Right? Yes. All right. So that one is support for the honorable to go back and talk with those who are still with the pill. Okay, thank you so much, attack from my will, and we will be giving them the chance to answer hello ready minute. Hello. Good evening. Good evening to you. This is John McGill from both. Okay, John from Borogahed. My question is for the government representative, is it okay for foreign employers to have a strike on a nation on ground, knowing that this can jeopardize the national security for the country? Is it okay? Okay. And the second question is, how difficult it is to have pipeline beings and into the neighborhoods than having water from? Okay. Thank you so much. John from Borogahed. Let's begin with the last question from John. Yes. Another thing, the issue of people striking and how difficult is it for the government to connect to water from the source of the narrow, which is not very far from here. Lesser now, five kilometers. Why is it taking the government more than 10 years to have a clean water running in town? Thank you very much in that question. Now it is not difficult for the government to connect the water. The government now is working with the with the gygaica, is also working with the well bank and they are also working with the, with the German company to connect the water. But our problem with our citizen is that they are refusing to give the detail of their houses. You know when your house is connected with the water, it must be connected with the meter of the water. Whereby the detail of your house and your plot. A plot number, everything. Yes, and everything should be there. But you know, in this confusion, whereby the calamity of our house, which you know, people are refusing to give the detail. They are saying maybe these people are coming to come and take our plot. That is what is delaying us. But they would have been connected in, in, in, in, in, in, in April. Because I've seen him, somehow this actually have been connected with water. Yes. It's not yet working. Yes, it's not yet working because they did not complete it all. You must complete all and then you connect the water. So that is the problem. As you said, it is actually a natural security threat. When people are coming from the foreign country and strike is a crime by itself, and the constitution of the south, of the Republic of South Sudan does not permit that. Leave about being a foreigner. But as a citizen, you are not also permitted if you don't have right to protest. Because these people, they don't have right to protest. Because why should they protest and the government is saying that let the water be given to the citizen of South Sudan in this amount? Because we are responsible for the life of our people, not the responsibility. They are here, yes, as a foreigner to protect them also their life. But they should not impose something, which is not in our constitution. OK. There was this question from actually a comment from Moses in Tumblr that encouraging you to go ahead with the orders you came up with as a city council. That's from Moses in Tumblr. Yes, go ahead and add something on that. Yes, thank you. Thank you so much. Of course, I have had to Moses. It is true, as I was saying before, that this order was issued on the interests of our people. This order was issued on the interests of our people. That is why we took this initiative to ensure that we enforce this order. Almost the whole of last week, we have been in the field trying to enforce this order to work. So that our people, our citizens, will be able to get water at a lower prices. So we are trying our best. When it comes to issues, one of the caller has talked about an issue of a foreigner, something. I don't want to use that language, because we are not fighting foreigners, but we are fighting prizes in the market. Whether the person we are fighting with the prizes in the market belongs to another community, that's what I don't want to talk about it, but we are talking about the prizes. Number one, in our enforcement, you have had people removing number plates. Those are people who are not complying with our orders. They were violating the orders. So we went to an extent of removing number plates, arresting some of the water tankers in line with our orders. So how many number plates have been taken away and now, and they are constantly with request them, and what are the charges or fines for those who will not comply with their order? The fines and the charges, it will be determined in the court. But so far, we have got around a touching number plates. Such a number plates that we have removed in line with the enforcement of this order. So these, the owners will be taken to court? Yes, the owners will be taken to court. Because this is a public order. All right. Yes. So these number plates were removed because they refused to sell them all irons. Okay, non-compliance. Yes, and the violations of the orders. Okay. Yes. All right, we have a couple of SMS coming in here. This is coming from Deng in Juba. And he says, what is the best way of ending this water scenario in Juba? Because this is not the first time. The first time was the water tankers refused to clean up their, there was an order that all water tankers should clean or wash, but they also went on the protest. That almost caused a lot of problem with the people in Juba City Council. What is the best way of solving this problem of water shortage all the time? That's from Deng here in Juba. Maybe you can take one more so that you can join the questions together for you to answer. Hello, everybody. (indistinct chatter) Hello, my name is Marhabing. (indistinct chatter) (indistinct chatter) (indistinct chatter) (indistinct chatter) Okay. (indistinct chatter) Yes, hello, Pani Martin. Yes, your name? Yes, you're online with a colleague material from Pani Martin. Okay, I'm quoting Martin from Kajoga Head. Yeah, thank you very much, Pani Martin. You really brought a very toxic, that is very good to all citizens, while listening far away from Juba. So what I want to ask my guest is, I have only two questions. One, why water tankers are always complaining in Juba? (indistinct chatter) They used to complain whenever they come to your door. They even do a lot of complications. At the end of the day, you pay money, then they leave tomorrow the same thing. That's number one. Two, recently we had that government has donated $10 million last year. I don't know whether it was in March, or where, to buy water tankers. Where are these water tankers? Okay. Yes, there was a discussion from Dan here, what is the best way of resolving the disease of a complaint all the time? And there is also a similar question coming in here. I don't know whether it was answered. That, how do I report any violator on any complaints? Oh, but these drivers, when they come to my door, and I tell them there is an order from the government to five here in Juba, or three or five outskirts, Juba City Council, or in Juba County, to whom to I report. And yes, that's from John in the monarchy here in Juba. Yes, let's begin with 100, about 60,000. Thank you very much. In the question with my brothers, ask that, how are we going to finish this issue of water prices always? Talking and going, talking and going. The only option which we are going to finish one for all is the option which you have went in. So that both of us are stakeholders. They are also stakeholders, and we are stakeholders also. We should sit together and we come to the concrete agreement whereby it is not going to be violated by them nor Juba City Council. If they wanted to raise the price in that day, in the price which we agreed, they will be coming back to Juba City Council. And this is what we are going to do after we finish the agreement with them in this negotiation which we are doing. So the best way to reach the agreement, it is you sit down with all the stakeholders and come out with the agreed price. So if we come out with the agreed price, they will not complain and they will not sell the water in the way they want. And there was, I think you had answered before about the close to $10 million that was approved by the cabinet to buy water tankers in Juba here. You said there were questions, the same question was, the money, why are I not buying? I think that is already answered. Yes, there is this question also that, why complain all the time? Complain all the time. And then, that's from I called it in Warab State. This complaint of all the time, you find a complaint here and there. Yes, the complaints that are happening here and there are concerning the issues of water prices. It is because of the fuel. You see, we don't have standard prices. Yeah, that is one thing that our listeners should also understand. Today, we may be buying fuel at $5,000. Next month, we shall be buying at $7,000. Or the other coming month, we shall be buying at $4,000. So this kind of unstable prices in the market is the one that making it and we don't have a permanent solution on this price. Today, we may be talking about bringing prices to $2,500 within Juba City here and then $3,500 outside Juba. But you will come to realize after one Monday, the dollars may suit up to $600. Yes. And then again, it will be another crisis. So the unstable prices, the economy, the economy is not stable. The movement of the economy up and down is the one that is causing us this problem. So if you know that there is an inflation in the country, why would you reduce the price of water then down? Because their prices are exaggerated. Yes. Okay. We have another question coming in from Alfred here in Juba. He says, yes, you are not talking about this water tankers. What about this bottled water? Because they are also very expensive. That is my choice. That is my choice to be. Okay. We have a lot of SMS coming in here. I think most of these have been answered already. You can pick more before we conclude. Hello, Eddie. Hello? Yes. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Andre? Andre Camilo? Yes. Okay. I had the question. I have the question. Don't know about this video. Mm-hmm. You were given city councils by then on some protests. Two of them, while it is currently in that city council for quite some time. When will they come out clearly with the laws? What are the prices? In the head of the nations where the full government of the nations is running. When will we see them come out with the clear water prices, regulations? In the head of the nations, city of the country. When will we see them come out with? Because this is not suffering. Day by day, there is protests by foreigners. We stop flying water. Okay. Andre? Camilo is clearly with the prices and regulations. Andre? He is staying in that chest for quite some time. Okay. Do your line is breaking. We have got to a point. Hello, everybody. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. What are you talking about? Yes. What are you talking about? Okay. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Okay. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Hello. Okay. Yes. Well, let us take this chance also in these remaining seven minutes to talk about some critical decision that should be made here in Juba, which is infrastructure. When it rains in Juba, most of the roads are really cut off in Juba City Council. Let's begin now with the question that was brought to you by Andrea Camilo. Those that will be used to regulate the water prices in Juba on a particular thing. Thank you very much. You know, the laws which are supposed to be brought out to regulate what in Juba City Council are supposed to be brought by the water urban... What are corporations? Yes. What are corporations in Juba? Well, it's been headed by Ears, Ears, the chair, lady of that water corporation. Yeah. The other one is the minister of water and irrigation. Mm-hmm. These people, if they formulate the law, they bring to us in Juba City Council to come and implement. Yeah, implement. But we cannot raise the law. The law come from above. The law does not come from the ground. Yeah. It's not from above to be implemented in ground by the local government, which is the third layer. So in that sense, that is why we are saying now that the committee of the water and regression in the parliament was asked today. Mm-hmm. And we are going to tell them so that they can pass all those laws and give it to us. Okay. Yeah. Before touching there on issues of infrastructure, allow me to comment on some of those scholars. Yeah. One of the scholars talks about when we have a permanent solution on the issues of water. Yeah. My answer would be that the permanent solution on the issues of water, it would be a house to house connectivity of water. Mm-hmm. Once that project is being completed, that would be the permanent solution. Okay. As he was asking for a permanent solution. However, as my brother has said, still regarding the issues of the water, negotiations will continue still. Tomorrow, we are going to be sitting again to continue negotiating to see that we reach a compromise. And that will be communicated to the public. Okay. And briefly about the infrastructure in Juba. Yes. Concerning the issue of the economic system and all this. Concerning the issue of the infrastructure in Juba, city council. Yeah. In the last four days that I was in that office since when I was brought. Mm-hmm. I was able to move around Juba. I was able to move around in Juba. I really found out that there is an issue of a bad road network within Juba city council. And then the issue of flooding. The issue of flooding. This is also a bigger issue. In fact, this afternoon we are discussing this with the World Bank. What is the plan? Yes, the plan is we are looking to address these issues. Mm-hmm. We are looking to address the issues of flooding and the bad road network. But within our capacity as a city council, we will not be able to address most of these issues. When we talk about drainage, this is a huge project that I cannot lie the public that we are going to come out and sort out this issue. Mm-hmm. But we are in cooperation with some other patinas trying to negotiate to see how other patinas will help us in into. So that we will be able to address some of these key issues. Okay. And finally, you said you are going to meet tomorrow with this stakeholder to this water issue. What are you looking at tomorrow in the meeting? When we are looking into our order of 2,500 to 3,500 should be maintained. In case, if we are not able to reach a decision on that, we will also hear from them where they want us to put their prices. But we are, we control the table to see that these prices remain. In case we fail, we will be able to reach a compromise and that will be communicated to the public later on. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you. Tomorrow's meeting. What should the people expect after the meeting? Should we expect that water tankers to begin selling at your own price or the old price? Thank you very much. As my brother put it, this is what we are going to do tomorrow. We'll be sitting tomorrow so that we tell them to maintain the price which have been issued by the mayor. Or we come to the compromise, and that compromise must be the intact compromise which we are going to communicate to the public tomorrow, so that the public can be aware. We are going to do it tomorrow, not next tomorrow. After we finish from tomorrow, they will get the communication through the mayor or through our media house. Thank you so much, Deputy Mayor for administration and the finance executive committee. And also, we had Jima Moses who is the Deputy Mayor for Infrastructure and Environment. Thank you both for coming to our studio. I appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.