Grant and Danny
Full Show- Monday, October 14th, 2024
Good Monday afternoon and welcome into Grant and Danny on the fan. We've got caps tickets. You can win at four o'clock ahead of the Beltway Blitz. If you want to see the caps, take on the Montreal Canadiens on Halloween over at Capital One Arena. Danny, the wind streak is over at four, but the commanders are still in first place at four and two. They went to Baltimore. They went up a weight class. They lose 30 to 23, but is it in a misery Monday for me? I liked a lot of what I saw. Yes, same here. I was on the fortune of to be on the sports junkies this morning. They called me from my house, interrupted my pickleball game, but it was fine. It was all planned. I was wearing my weighted vest, by the way, in case you were worried. But that was the theme for me is this was not got the doors blown off. This was Baltimore was better than they were. I thought start to finish, deserve to win the football game, et cetera. The defense couldn't stop anybody. They want to, as you said, went up a weight class. Things weren't easy for them on offense, which I actually think, again, big picture for this year is good. Like I want defensive coordinators to take a couple things away to force Jaden Daniels into something else and, you know, force responses and things like that because big picture long term. I'm still so bullish on him. So excited about him. And if everything is nothing but easy, then when it gets hard, you're not really able to do it. It's like that. You watch like March Madness, some team that's 34.0 come into the tournament has been one of their games by 17, 18, 20 points a night. Then they're on a one point game. They don't know what to do, right? Because they pucker up. I liked it. Baltimore made it hard on them. It's a good experience for me. It's, it's a bummer. I would have loved them for them to win the game, obviously, but I don't feel worse. I actually specific to Daniels outside of the Bengals game yesterday was probably as good as I felt. And it's not to say it was perfect, right? There was a dropped interception on a play that really missed a guy, but it was really, really good on a day where they couldn't run the ball. Generally they have been able to run all over teams. They've been ahead in games. It's 72 and sunny as I like to say. And it's the ideal and perfect situation to be a quarterback in an NFL offense. Yesterday you were chasing the game. There was pressure figuratively more than literally, although there was occasionally pressure in the pocket too. But you knew every time you took the field, basically, you had to go score on the road, tough environment, good team. And oh, by the way, you don't have a running game. And oh, by the way, your defense is getting shredded. Good luck. And they had a chance in the football game because of Jaden Daniels, in my opinion, playing a superior team is a seven point dog. Your defense lays a complete egg. You cannot run the ball. You have a field goal blocked and you leave points on the field at the end of the half. All those things happen for this team. And over the years, there's plenty of times, Danny, where you lose this game by 13, 14, 17, whatever it is. They didn't. They were right there because I thought Daniels really gave them a chance. I thought MacLaurin had his most impressive game of the season. I know he had a better statistical game against the Bengals, but the awesome third down catch on the sideline, the terrific diving touchdown catch on the sideline as well at another touchdown catch in the game. I thought he was really, really good. Some girl man wide receiver one catches there for sure. Totally. Like he looked the part he had a very, very good game. But yeah, I think we talked about it all week. Don't get outclassed and don't look like you're not as good as we thought you were at four and one. There's no harm in this season, in my opinion, with losing to really good football teams if you compete and do a lot of good things. And I'm sure people say, Oh, there's no moral victories. I don't know what you want to call it. I'm not saying I'm, I'm, you know, putting a sticker on my helmet after a loss, but you can do a tough guy talk if you want to. I'm just dealing with reality, which is you're one of Dan Quinn, rookie quarterback six games in your four and two. You're alone in first place. You got the Panthers coming to town and I think you're in a pretty good spot. I do too. So Baltimore did to Washington but Washington has been doing to opponents for the last month. I mean, you look at some of the, the, the gaudy totals, 36 plus minutes of time in possession, 484 total yards, ran it at will, threw it at will. They knew, you know, the monkey in the company are always like a, we know what you're going to do ahead. In other words, when you go, all right, fine, we're sick of this. We're sick and tired of Derek Henry, you know, bashing us for four, five, six, seven, they go, we got something called for the next defense. You're going to call it's going to be Zaflowers and breaking first down. He could have gone for 400 yards if they felt like it yesterday. Honestly, they had nobody that could cover that dude. By the way, he did not get one target after halftime. I do not understand that. And I'm sure the commander's made an adjustment and tried to take him away, but they didn't slip him a screen. Yeah. I might have found the wall one more time. He had nine targets, nine catches, 132 yards and the easiest first half any receiver has ever had. Yeah. So especially that first, that first play that he caught was a screen for 44 yards. I might have run that back to the opposite side, for example, but you know, it's one of those things where, yeah, this defense is undermanned. They're outclassed, outguned, Baltimore's doing this to everybody, and they're going to continue to do so, I think, as long as they're healthy and rolling. So, we're going to go, yeah, that you're to borrow from Dennis Green, but to apply it here, this is there who I thought they were talking about Washington. This is still very exciting. The hay was in the barn. I don't want to call it a total house money game, but it was close, right? I mean, I still feel good about them in this division. I feel good about them in their place in the NFC. They're not quite to that awesome tier yet. Very few teams are at this point, right? I don't know how many occupy that rarefied air. And the fact is, they are light years better than the bottom bucket of garbage, frankly, that I thought they'd be in for most of this year. Their resume going into this game was like top five-ish in football. Now it's top tennis. If we're just talking about the six games in a vacuum. Hey, there you go. But around the division yesterday, the Cowboys got absolutely embarrassed. Non-competitive. I mean, the Lions were throwing the ball to linemen more than receivers in the fourth quarter of that game. They were just doing fun last day of the football season. Your high school coach wants everyone to have a good time stuff in an NFL game against the Cowboys on the road. They were embarrassing. And the Eagles barely beat the Deschaun Watson led inept Cleveland Browns and then Nick Siriani screamed at the fans about it. For some reason, I don't understand. I think that was a great choice. And then because he knew he was such a fool, as he always is, he brought his kids to the press conference, like sit on his lap hiding behind them figuratively, literally, whichever way you want to look at it. Ridiculous. But I digress. Yeah, I'm really happy with where they're at. Now, that does not mean I don't care about wins and losses. Hear me right now, right here. When I say, if they were to lose to the Carolina Panthers this week at home, the tone on this show, at least in my perspective, I won't speak for you, would be very, very different. You're an eight and a half point favorite at home. That never happens, by the way. These are waters. We haven't swam in very much, but they're going to be a heavy favor. It might even be bet up to nine, nine and a half. Who knows, before the kickoff of that game, you need to handle your business and come back and beat Carolina. And the expectation is that they're going to do that and do it handily. And if they do, it'll feel very different than years past and they'll be five and two and they'll still be in first place for over a month running now. But this was not Carolina. And I do feel like the parts of the game where they struggle are the parts of the game where they're not that good. It was not enlightening or in my opinion, like a light was not shined on this roster and away where we go. Oh, maybe, maybe they do have a problem there. Their secondary, which we know is a problem, got beat badly. They lacked pass rush for much of the game against the hardest team in the lead, where you to sack the quarterback. We knew that was a thing. So I didn't view this as like some, not revealing right where you go. I didn't know we couldn't do that either. Totally. It was fairly predictable, honestly. In fact, the conversation we had all week was, they probably lose by a touchdown. They're both in the twenties, low thirties, and Jaden Daniels and Lamar Jackson both make some plays along the way. It's kind of what happened. That's how it ended up going. The thing that's interesting to me, just with the game within the game kind of nuanced stuff, I think for two straight weeks now, I think teams have keyed in on and figured out Washington's design quarterback runs. Now, I don't know if that's just because Baltimore, but you know, had a good play or I don't know if Cleveland had a good play here there. But think about the touchdown that Washington scored against Arizona, where Jaden Daniels takes that pistol snap at student body, right? He goes in behind some blockers, touchdown. Then, you know, they tried something similar each the last couple weeks, Cleveland stuffed it. Some of the read option keeper type looks, teams have done a good job against that. So again, this is almost, if this is, hey, we're in a Super Bowl season. This is Pat Mahomes in his prime. We can't squander this. I'm going, Oh God, what do we do here? I'm going, yes, that's awesome. Right? It's like a picture that just got to the major leagues and his changeup doesn't work. What are you going to do? Are you going to come up with a cutter? You're going to start throwing a split finger, start throwing a screwball, start throwing something else? I love the idea that they have to respond now, because it seems like a couple straight weeks teams if they have figured that part of it out. So what are you going to do instead, right? You're going to take something away. What can we take from you as kind of a response? I love that that's happening, right? It can't just all be easy as Daniels has passed every test that he's been given pretty much to this point. So again, this is still net positive for me. I just, I wish I had more angst and anger to come and be like, that's annoying. I'm so mad. I'm just not. Yeah, I mean, they just, they got work defensively, and they're not very good on defense. 484 yards, they gave up seven and a half per play. They gave up 60% third down conversions. They gave up 75% conversions for touchdowns in the red zone. They forced all of six incompletions and allowed what is an abysmal 12.4 yards per attempt. And in the first half, they basically said, we're not letting Derek Henry run the ball. That will not be happening. And he didn't nine carries 38 yards, but they gave up the middle of the field to flowers behind them. The second half, they said, we can't keep doing that. We'll give them a little bit more in the running game and we'll take away more of the middle of the field stuff. And then Derek Henry ran for 94 yards in the second half. So whenever they gave Baltimore, they took gladly and said, thank you and had a great time doing it. And it was also a bad game because they lose three players to injury. And in fact, we've got breaking news on one of those players right now into one oh six, seven, the fan. According to NFL networks, Tom Pellissero, the commanders may have lost more than just the game yesterday. According to Pellissero, can we understand out defensive tackle? John Allen is feared to have suffered a significant pectoral injury that will require season ending surgery. Allen looking to get a second opinion, but would be a huge loss for Washington who currently sits atop the NFC East at four and two. Thank you, Lynelle, for the breaking news here to one oh six, seven, the fan. So John Allen, potentially Danny lost for the year. He has been one of their best players over the last several seasons. He has had a down statistical year. He does get double teamed and chipped the whole lot in the middle of the defensive line. They are deeper there where they've got the Ron Payne, who's terrific, where they drafted Johnny Newton, that pick looks a little bit more fortuitous. Now as you plug him in, presumably as a starter, they kept Fedarian Mathis, a former second round pick around as well. And they do have a pretty heavy rotation. They lost two defensive ends yesterday. Dorins Armstrong with a rib injury and Giovanni Jean Baptiste was in a boot after the game. But if Alan is out for the year, a bad defense losing one of its best overall players is a very, very bad sign. Yeah, when you're when you have a bad group, when we're close, whether Alan's had a banner a year or not, he is not by all accounts, especially statistically measured. It doesn't make you better. You know what I mean? It just makes it that you're gonna have to have other folks step up. And I hate next man up. It's so cliched and hacked. But that has to happen. Guys are gonna have to do more pain is gonna have to be more productive than he's been. Johnny Newton went from rotational piece, presumably to focal point. So that stinks for Alan on a number of fronts, just a great dude who's done everything right since he's been here. Not much guaranteed money. I think no guaranteed money going in the next year. So maybe for an agent year for him. So that is not ideal, certainly for him. But yeah, I mean, the defense itself, it's like at a certain point, and not see you can afford to lose anybody, you don't root for injuries or can't even deal with them. But there are certain spots where you could probably deal with a little bit better, you know, if like, I'm trying to think of a good example, I don't have one. But if, you know, if somebody at the linebacker spot was out and you have four or five guys that are waiting in the wings, that's fine. But this is a weak group that's gotten a little bit weaker. I mean, they're not getting after the pastor. They're not disruptive and not having John Allen, who has been capable, who has had times where he's been that disruptive force. That's not going to help you. Tom Pelocero, NFL network reporting, Jonathan Allen could be done for the season. And this is something we've been here in rumblings of, I will say at the radio station over the last few hours that this was presumably going to be a pretty serious injury that it could cost him much of, if not the remainder of his season. And the team is currently fearing that he will miss the entirety of the season recovering from this torn peck. I will say, and this is, you know, not the time maybe to break this down as you kick a guy at the worst moment of his recent career here. But at 29 years old, the counting stats, the production, the pressures, the hurries, some of those things for Alan are down there. Yeah. So this is not maybe replacing him in 2021 when he was on his way to nine sacks or 2022 when he was on his way to seven and a half. Those two years where he made the Pro Bowl, it has not quite been the same. And they're being run on like they were run on when he was in the game. They're run on when he wasn't in the game. Are they better without John Allen? Of course not. But I think moving on without John Allen might be less of a mission in a task and less arduous this year than a couple of years ago, just based on a the personnel at that position. I don't think they're good on their defensive line because I think their defensive in position room is still problematic. But at defensive tackle specifically, Danny, I think that they they can probably get by with it being more of a setback and a bummer than like a death sentence defensively. You're all ready. That's right. Yeah. And you're built with defensive tackles that it shouldn't be a game changer. Yeah. Like if the Giants lost Dexter Lawrence, right? And you know, nobody behind him was any good. He's playing at a nine or 10.0 level at the stage, right? He's got what seven or eight sacks through through six games. If you lose John Allen, your defensive line was probably playing at a three. It's not going to be up to. So in other words, you're not you're not better, but you're also weren't good to begin with. It's as you said, it's not a couple of years ago where he was wreaking havoc. So again, I'm more feel for the guy who finally was getting to enjoy the some of the spoils, right? Some of the positive attention. No, no questions about dysfunction. It's questions about how cool is this? How fun is this? How much fun are you having compared to other years? And wouldn't you like to be part of this? And isn't this cool? Those are all gone now because you're potentially done for the year. Yeah, offensively, they're already in a position where if they don't play great, they don't win. So if you start to have an attrition rate where you're losing some bodies on defense, I don't think the algorithm changes. Maybe how great you've got to be might change some. But you think about some of the late season runs to with this team over the years when they win four in a row, five in a row, seven in a row, they get into the playoffs. There are big time injuries along the way. And they just matter less when kind of that special dust is sprinkled in the locker room and guys elevate their game and coaches find a way to work around some of those deficiencies. But big loss, no doubt about that on the defensive line. If John Allen's out, I mean, this is a guy that was seen as a top three player organizationally over the last few seasons. They've obviously brought in a new heart and soul that kind of leads a lot of the speeches and and gives a lot of the pump up talks before the game and Frankie Louvoo and his role will continue to grow in that regard if Alan is indeed out. But that's the breaking news into the fan right now that the expectation is that John Allen could be out for the remainder of the season. He will seek another opinion on that pack. But they're going to have to make some adjustments defensively. I just think it's what we talked about last week. Yours are going to be given up. Points are going to be allowed. They need takeaways. Think about it. The first drive of the game, they give up the 40 plus yard screen. Baltimore's slicing through them like a knife through butter. There's no stopping the Ravens. And then Lamar missed targets. Mark Andrews on a little quick out throws it. Why do the basically the catch radius slaps off his hand up into the air and no egg, but not going to get his hands on the ball. Excuse me. Mike Sandry stills first career interception gets his hand on the ball and he gets the first pick of the season for the commanders. First one in week six and their sixth game. Danny, they had played 20 plus quarters of football without one interception. Like they just have to turn teams over more to make up for all the stuff they allow without without question. And again, it's it's the this is not me being critical of the regime. I'm just offering a parallel. If you go back to the last group where it's like, okay, defensive minded head coach, defensive coordinator with with the head coach experience, that's the group that's going to be strong. And they both played linebacker. So that group will thrive even if they don't have big names. And then, of course, they didn't. What this group was known for, Joe Whit, Dan Quinn by extension, is what? If you had to pick one word, turnovers, every assignment they've turned in over the years has been, we might give up some stuff here and there you might get us on on, you know, this extra set of motion or this throwback pass or we might over pursue here and there. But we are going to disrupt you. We're going to turn it over. And they haven't done that to this point. I think it's a personnel thing. And the way I think of turnovers, again, it's more maybe more process-wise where it's like waves crashing on the shore and then eventually one time it gets rid of the sand dune. You know what I mean? It's like you constantly are pressuring, constantly are hurrying. You force that one high throw. You force a receiver, you know, to have his timing disrupted. You get that punch in the back field or get the quarterback for a sack fumble. Those things are not happening consistently. So you look up and you go, man, we don't have any turnovers. Let's give out some game balls to the best and gasses to the worst next. We'll open up the MGM National Harbor listener lines for the first time today at 800-636-1067. That's 800-636-1067. Also want to give our take on Jayden Daniels performance. We'll do that as soon as we return. They lose for the second time in six games, but I thought Daniels who didn't have a running game to buoy him and was mostly kept in the pocket showed really well as a passer. We'll get into that next on the fan. [BLANK_AUDIO] We're live on 106-7 all over the DMV. You can also stream us on the 106-7 the fan at YouTube page if you want to watch video or the show. Thanks for making the program part of your day. Odyssey app makes us available wherever you go, pause and rewind the program. Before we get to game balls to the best and gasses for the worst, I wanted to talk Jayden Daniels really quickly because let's face it. That is the biggest storyline ever game. That is the biggest deal with this team in 2024 and will be until the final snap of this season whenever that comes. I actually thought Jayden Daniels was uber impressive in Baltimore for a couple of reasons, but he was mostly kept in the pocket. The Ravens had a plan occasionally spying him with Rokwan Smith and not wanting him to leave the pocket to his right. I found something really interesting too. I don't know if you heard this on the telecast. I was rewatching last night because I went to the game, but Tony Romo said when he leaves the pocket running to his left, he never throws. He always runs. When he leaves the pocket to his right, he stays basically in the hunt and looks downfield. Yeah, now he has run and going to the right. Of course, think of the fourth down against Cleveland or whatever. But yes, for the most part, if he goes left, it's a run every time. So that's something he's got to fix and clean up because you can't have that tell where as soon as you turn to your left and take off out of the pocket, the play is dead because you're running. But I just thought that was interesting. Having said that though, Washington couldn't run the ball. That's been his best friend and he's the reason why they're running game is so good. They basically said, beat us from the pocket. And while Washington didn't win the game, offensively, plenty, they won. That they did some good things from the pocket. He threw, there was a play that I haven't heard anyone talk about that is so smart and it's one of those, oh my God, this guy's awesome and special kind of moments. Do you remember with 16 seconds left in the half? They're moving down the field to get into field goal range. And he spikes a ball at the feet of Austin Echler. That play was legit football brilliant. For a rookie quarterback, six games in, you do not see that. In real time, people are like, oh, that's a bad pass. He spiked it at Austin Echler. No, he's saving time. That's just a 400 level quarterbacking play. I don't care about one in completion. I don't care about this one snap. Let's kill the clock and let's live to fight another day to get more yards to go get the field goal. How great was that play? It was, and I'm kind of at first went, wait, oh, one of those kind of moves right where I go. Now I see what the plan was and I got them into a spot where they can attempt to feel goal at least. You could throw it to him for a catch, right? And maybe he gets a few yards, stays in bounds, you lose all the time. Exactly. So he just spiked it at his feet. I thought that was awesome. There was an under center play action dropback pass that nobody will care about that I tweeted out at Grand H. Paulson. That is everything that I love and want in a QB. It's, it's, I'm not calling a gimmicks. I'm not going to go for him, Taylor Britt, but like the stuff that is the blend of college and the NFL and the dual threat and the read option and the pistol and whatever all that table dressing stuff is. And it works. It's become the NFL. This was under center, play action, dropback, throw to the middle of the field like it's, you know, name your pocket passer that doesn't run ever. Just NFL legitimate dropback game stuff. Remember that play? It was legit terrific. Which play the one I just explained under center dropback Terry McClure in middle of the field. Those were the corn shot. Beautiful. Love how he handled the end of half situation right before the field goal gets a nine yard scramble, gets down, perfect passes to the sideline and no a brown couple of darts to Alameda Zacchaeus. Like the whole execution from the plan from Kingsbury to the quarterbacking to the offense, getting to the sideline to the spike in the ball at Echler's feet. Everything had to go right to get a 50 plus yard field goal off and they did it. My favorite play was a drop by Zacchaeus that Roma pointed out on the telecast, actually, where Daniels is, it's, it's all small window manipulation, right? It's not the, you're throwing it 50 yards down the field. So you turn one way and have the safety go cover the wrong guy. This is all within a pretty narrow frame where you move Kyle Hamilton, a step to his left, who was lurking in the passing lanes hoping that you try to force something and they're staring down and then he zips a ball and Zacchaeus who dropped it would have been a first down and it said they had to punt. So that actually ended up looming really large over the course of the game. And who knows if it's different if he makes the catch or not. But that was one of those plays where I went. That was so high level. That's so different than he's a scrambler. It's, you know, if it's not there, I immediately tuck and run. That was just NFL quarterback stuff, right? Where you're manipulating people, you're moving defenders around, letting your receiver work to that sort of that second level exactly, but kind of second level in front of the first layer behind or behind the first layer in front of the second layer, ball was there, Zacchaeus doesn't make the catch. But you know, then you go into the touchdown throw, of course, which was just incredible, enough pace to be, you know, over the line back, we're enough touch to drop it in the bucket to McClorn. You just go on, we got it. We got the thing. Both touchdown passes were perfect. The first one, I think 25 starting quarterbacks in the league make, but it's still a damn good throw. The second one was legit. Flawless, like take the average quarterback in the league out to the field right now and say, convert this here, that back shoulder ball to McClorn falling down. You can't walk it over there better. It's just ball placement. There was a throw to Earth's where he slides in the pocket to his right. They pick up 24 yards on a second and five from just across midfield where he switches the protection right before the play. He tells German Marine Nichols who's on his right to get to his left. He then gets a little block in, but he doesn't completely win. So the the rusher is about to blow up Daniels and does, but he buys just a split second more for Earth to come out of his break by moving to his right. And then he throws a perfect pass on just a, it was a five step drop, you know, out of shotgun, basically. I mean, there were a lot of those moments in a game where they couldn't run it, where he didn't run a ton, where he was in the pocket. And I just thought he acquitted himself really, really well. Me too. Yeah, this, this was not an easy day. And you still have all the Ravens players post game with those Rokon Smith or other guys going, yeah, that dude's legit. Like that's impressive because they know, right, where they took away your favorite toy. You took away your favorite easy button, right, which is some of the your own run plays, the offensive run design, whether it was Echler, it's been Robinson. Of course, he missed this week. Yeah, they need him back, by the way, just just a little bit of that thumper in the middle. But you take away all that and you go, okay, be one dimensional. And if they had the ball longer, like if the if their defense was forcing one of those words, punts every now and again, you might have seen more points, you might have seen more things, but they only had the ball for for 23, 24 minutes as Bolton was just walking up and down the field, getting 15 to 20 yards a pop. But those guys know that that guy's legit. Yeah, I keep hearing everyone like posting the quotes from other players and maybe we'll disagree on this. I've never cared about that, to be honest with you. There's certainly like a real recognizes real, but they also love Justin Fields. You know what I'm like, players like playmakers, they like football players, they like guys who are hard to tackle and get to and, you know, from a quarterbacking standpoint, the stuff that isn't sexy is the stuff I care about, too. So I'm glad Rowquan Smith is impressed. That is never really going to move the needle for me as much as just the plays being made or not made watching the game for myself or what talent evaluators are saying, because I think players like players, you know, look at the top 100. I think Patrick Mahomes was named the fifth best player in the NFL last year or something like that. Like, okay, I suppose. I'm sure that that's a good ranking, but I digress. All right, let's get to the phones. 800 6361067 is the number 800 6361067 on Grant and Danny. The question for you guys is, who gets your game ball and who gets your gas or Danny? Kick it off. Game ball, please. Go game ball. Terry McClorne, bad ass. Now, the overall numbers you're going to go, we're talking about six for 53. Obviously, two touchdowns stands out, but that's a grown man six for 53. I've seen six for 53, then I've seen that six for 53 every inch hard earned, right? Some of those catches in traffic, diving catches with a hand in there where he's barely barely able to hold on to the football, including the second touchdown. I thought that was a grown up number one wide receiver day. Who gets your gas or Danny? The answer for me, we could pick a whole bunch of folks. I think, ultimately, this defensive line at a certain point, you've got to do something at a certain point. A couple of the highest paid guys on the roster now. Obviously, they'll be without John Allen for a while. But where's my disruption? Where's my occasional negative play down and down? You're not going to do it to the Ravens. They're really good. They do this to a lot of people. But where was my that guy couldn't block you on that play? You ripped them through it on the side and bloop the run play before it started. That just didn't seem to be on the table at any point yesterday. I'll give my game ball to Noah Brown. I think he has added a lot and is a really, really good wide receiver too for them. You mentioned McClorne who would have gotten it. So I'll just go with Brown four for 58. He also had the big pass interference that he drew down the field, nearly 30 yards on that shot to the sideline. So he gets my game ball. As far as the gasser goes, he can pick really anybody in the secondary you want to. I think Benjamin St. Juice gets beat up on way too much within this fan base. I think he was on a basically an island in a terrible spot. He's not a guy that should be defending twitchy, small, fast receivers. He's a corner two playing corner one. I thought he acquitted himself, mostly okay. One of the two PIs he got called was not a pass interference to my penalty. And they had him one on one in man because they were playing in the box to defend Eric Henry for much of the first half. But it's still all that said, all of those excuses out of the way for why he's not the meme that everyone's creating would be on social media. I'll give him a gasser because he is asked to right now be a shut down number one corner against the guy like Z a flowers. And it just didn't work. Let's go to J who's in D.C. on Grant and Danny. What's up, Jay? What's up, you guys? Everybody appreciate you're taking my call. I wanted to give a gasser to a romver, the ghost of ronver and his draft. It's I want to give a game ball to Javonta Baptiste. I think he's been playing pretty well for like a late round pit. Terry was a grown man out there in Tresway. So just being great. My best game ball goes to the team for just going toe to toe with another team that was a lot more talented than them. And we we missed that bump into something grind crew. And it shows how much we really miss Brown Robinson. I also want to say it was like the whitest thing ever that you say like something grind anything to do with usher man. Like come on. That was that was just horrible. Appreciate you, buddy. I'm very guilty of that. Yeah, I think it was my line. I said it made me think of usher. But I don't know. That's the music that you put on when you were grinding on someone in seventh grade. So that's the last time I've thought about it's a play on an R Kelly song. And you were like, Reminds me of usher instead of like it's the bump and grinds are Kelly. I was not thinking of the actual song as much as the, you know, the type of music, you and I was more synonymous than a felon who's done some pretty terrible things. I don't name check him that often. No, I get that in the 2020s at this point. Like I could have, I guess, if we go back in time, you want me to give, you know, if you want me to give R Kelly more love, which sounds like you want me to do, I don't, I'm willing to do that. 806361067 is the number you want to jump in, game ball to the best, gasser to the worst, top of the hour did yesterday's result make you feel better or worse or the same as you did about the commanders going into the game. You're listening to the fan. [silence] Really big part second and goal from six yards away Daniels back in the end zone. Lauren has it for the Washington touchdown right over the top of Marcus Williams. The commanders fell in Baltimore 32 23. We're Grant and Danny. You are listening to the fan. They're four and two. They come home to take on the Carolina Panthers. I do feel like this Carolina game will be maybe even more telling than the Baltimore game was. Like I like what we learned. It feels like they can play with anybody. You know, it feels like they're going to be able with Jayden Daniels at the controls to compete in every single game this year. But don't you agree that if they come home now in a letdown spot and beat Carolina handily, like they're just officially like legit good. Now it's five and two. You remain in first. You're beating all the bad teams, Cardinals, Browns, Giants. You play a team that's not very good. You work them. Yeah, it becomes validating, right? Because it's either four games where they played well or who they are, right? Because those four games happened and it's now we get we get a bigger lens and a wider view when we figure it out. So now that we go back and look at the Giants game, for example, after they did what they did to Cincinnati and what they did to Arizona and Cleveland, where you go, actually, this offense is awesome. And they just weirdly sabotage themselves in the red zone and they scored every drive. They didn't score touchdowns. But now we kind of look at this offense and go, Oh my God, they are that good. It wasn't just they're going up against the bad Giants. The more data we get, the more validating or flooky something becomes, right? So those four weeks happen and we're trying to figure out what to make of it. So data turned in so far tells me yeah, they're good enough to beat all the bad teams in their schedule. You do that. You end up with nine or 10 wins. Let's go to Vic who's an act of cake wants to give out a game ball and a gasser. You can do the same 800 6361067. Who gets your game ball, Vic? Jane Daniels, Jane Daniels proved yesterday that even though the Ravens defended him well from being mobile and getting north and south, they defended his ability to use RPO with his legs. They defended his ability, took away the running game. And everyone kept saying we're going to see what he is when he has to be a valiant passer. He proved that I'm an elite passer. I'm going to lead passer with my eyes. I'm a lead passer high pre snap and post snap and where I put the ball to where only my receivers can catch it. I am very confident in the quarterback that we drafted for the next 10 years. Now my gasser, Joe Witt, I want to keep saying it. I do hear you guys. I hear everybody saying including this and after keep that we don't have talent. But this is my issue. We didn't know we had talent on the offensive line to even help Jayden deal elite passer about two months ago. And what we heard was Joe get angry and Joe gets after it and Joe has accountability. We thought we were going to be a four-win team. So what baffles me is I keep saying this. The things that we are not doing, we're not playing with eyes, we're not thinking when we should be thinking so that linebackers and safety quarterbacks at times when backers say to the flats give tighter windows. Tony Romo also said this. We talked about what Tony Romo said. He said flowers is getting across the field. He said if the backer would sink a little deeper or if the safety or if the defensive back would sink a little deeper in the window with the man, we've been picked up in man. It would tighten the monitor's windows just a bit. It happened in the first quarter when we got the interception on the first series. Well, they got sliced and diced in the zone in the first half. So a lot of those responsibilities you're talking about, Vic, we're not executed. But if you're asking me to make a blame pie for why you gave up 323 on 20 completions or why you gave up 12 yards per attempt or why you gave up a net of 484 yards and 7.4 a pop, I think this was not only a bad matchup on paper for a defense that just doesn't have very good personnel. But I would also say that you have to choose when you play Baltimore when you're as limited as Washington is. Are you going to let them run the ball with Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson, the best rushing tandem one, two as a quarterback and back this deep into a season in league history? Or are you going to dare Lamar Jackson to beat you? And because he's not as accurate as Jaden Daniels is misfire occasionally like he did on the pick where he was inaccurate, it bounces off a hand and into your guys' hands. That's what they bet on in the first half. Now, I thought they'd weigh too much real estate that they were giving up to the throws were way too easy. There weren't even oftentimes not contested around the DB, which might be what Vic's talking about. But in the first half of the game, Danny, they're playing at least from a running standpoint work. They stack the box nine carries for 38 yards for Derrick Henry. Nothing really explosive. They got crushed in the passing game. So in the second half, they said, okay, well, we're not going to let's a flowers run these crossers. We're going to sink a little more. We're going to take away the middle of the field. Our safety is going to come up some Derrick Henry 15 for 94, eight them for lunch. It was just a pick your poison. The first half, they picked the running game. The second half, they picked the passing game. And the other was the poison. Yeah, Kansas City, whose defense is good, gave up 452 yards to this group in week number one. The Raiders give up the had the best totals against or allowed, 383, 456, 427, 520, 484. Washington just joined up everyone else. Right. I mean, I understand they're not, they're not great there. And they probably could have been coached better or maybe there's some nuance and finer points that they can execute better. And you know, your coaches eyes can see that whereas, you know, shove like me, may or may not. But I know this, I can't stand it when say like the giant's offense. That's anemic and scored seven points last night, basically moves it up and down the field against you. And they're the only ones. Baltimore's doing this to everybody right now. Like if you play the Ravens, please expect 450 yards plus of offense. Yeah, I think that's what's happening. I think a good defense makes it harder though. Washington did. Of course. And this is not one. And that's what I would say to Vic is this is not a good defense. And the difference between maybe how he feels and how I feel is I don't expect a coach to make filet mignon hamburger, to make hamburger helper filet mignon. That's not a reality. I'm sorry. It's not. Now, if you want to hit on something this staff may have botched and there's very few things they haven't done really really well. They are batting a Major League Baseball Hall of Fame record breaking batting average in terms of the draft and free agency and what they evaluated this roster to look like. But they decided let's give Emmanuel Forbes another shot as a starter. And let's see if we can coach him up and fix him. He was deactivated yesterday. So the pick of him in the first round haunts them still clearly. But they also as a front office this off season as a choice. So let's be patient. Do we want to upgrade the secondary? Do we want to go get corners or not? And they said, let's see what the kids have. And that is hurting them. You're not going to fix everything in year one. This was supposed to have been a rebuild recalibrate and their way ahead of schedule. And maybe if they knew what this would look like in October, they would have done some things differently. But they brought in Michael Davis. That was a miss. They let Kendall Fuller walk seven and a half million per year he signed for in the AFC. That was probably the wrong decision. So I'll harp on all of the good things because I think Adam Peters and Lance Newmark and this crew have been a godsend mostly. But if you want to find one glitch so far or one thing that is backfired, their plan at cornerback, which was the one position group if you remember that I singled out when we talked to Adam Peters before the season. Hey, man, a manual Forbes. Are you sure? Hey, this corner room. Are you sure Michael Davis really? And he kind of what he said publicly might not be what he actually thinks behind the scenes. But he endorsed those guys said they're way better than people think orbs was ready to break out. They either misevaluated that or they just knew we're going to take our lumps. And this will be one of the areas where we're not very good in year one. Yeah, we're sort of stuck here. There's there's only so much we could do. We could throw a ton of money at it and be marginally better kind of like the nationals, right? You could have spent 20 million bucks on a bat, 25 million on a picture and finished in second to last place this year. You know, I mean, maybe that was the thinking next on Grant and Danny here on the fan right at the top of the hour going into the game, Washington had won four in a row, a first place team that people were putting in the top three and four in power rankings in the NFL. They lose to Baltimore. Do you feel better or worse with the same as you did before kickoff? Grant and Danny on the fan. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] That's the challenge for Washington today. It's combustible is what it is. There's a past that look out. Here he goes. The safe flowers down the sideline and all the way to the Washington 20 yard line. Isaiah likely helped a key block on that one because they take it 46 yards Jackson to flowers. Welcome back to Grant and Danny on the fan. The DMV's football team is in first place. They've got a bright future. It is time for you to plan yours as well. The exclusive sponsor of this show is the law firm, Condorian Maron. They'll help you update your last will and testament set up a trust for you and your family. Schedule a free consultation with our estate planning attorneys today. Visit kmloyers.com. Tell them we sent you. That's kmloyers.com. Jim Nance, Tony Romo is heard there on CBS on the call. Danny, you have been out on Tony Romo for a while. That is right. So I've got to admit, having been at the game, I have not watched the full TV copy. I'll probably get to that at some point later in the week, just for my own kind of re-enjoyment of some of the good and also to see how they called the game as a broadcast mark. But I did watch the condensed game and got to hear a little bit of what they were saying. The most annoying thing Tony Romo does. So look for this now. You will see highlights of the commander's Ravens game on all of the Fox shows and everywhere. And half of them have the little pen drawn on them. Because right before the snap, he is drawing as as the ball is hyped. Like one of the things you learn when you're calling a game is there's this. There's an axome that I heard that I loved, which is the silence of the snap. You are not supposed to be talking at the snap of the ball. Nobody. So you should hear and it sounds cool. And then the snap of its television economy of words. Ruye rolling. If it's radio as the snap rolls to his right looking down field sets, plants, fires, right. Not only were they talking at the snap, because under almost like, yeah, look at this guy, he's over here and he's gonna eat popcorn and then he's gonna do this. He's drawing all over the picture. He's just doodling. So on the highlights of half of the big touchdowns and the moments. Now he was always telling you exactly pretty much what was gonna happen. And he was right, which was cool. But I'm seeing yesterday, let's go to Carissa with the game break. And it just some four year olds doodling's on the picture of Terry MacLaurin's touchdown. Like you will see it on football night America or Monday night countdown and you'll go, Oh, there it is. That's what he's talking about. Stop drawing at the snap. If you couldn't draw it before the snap, you don't get to draw it. If you couldn't tell us already, you don't get to do it. Just throw it on the bonfire. Now I will say yesterday, he was better than I'm used to him being in terms of the like, you know, not squealing. Like he just got a Christmas present or something before plays. I think he's getting better with information. I still find him so grating and insufferable. Because the thing that made him marvelous has, I don't say it's been that's been faded down. He still does the like, watch they could do this here. This is something that might happen or you know, kind of calling a shot. He does that fine sometimes. But it's the here we go. This is the game, Jim. Oh my God. Let Jim do it. Jim, the guy that's done all the big games, who knows when it's a big moment? Jim Nance, that guy, number one seed. He's called your final four, called your super bowl, called your AFC NSC title games. He's done everything you can do, let him do it, right? Major important moment. He just can't help himself, but like squeal and giggle. And it's not charming. It's not John Madden, who's just so excited and jubilant about the sport and just loved it so much. It's this, I'm going to be the one to quantify it, like, insert myself, a necessarily type thing. And yeah, then you add in the weird doodling. I just couldn't be more out. I think he's pretty good. I'm going to reserve judgment until I go back and watch this full game. But there are certain quirks that are just Romo-y isms that it would be great if you could just cut those out and make him excellent. And it seems like he does not want to stop doing them. That is great. This is Danny. I have made my judgment. I have slammed my gavel. I could not be more out. I would rather have anyone else that does that broadcast games. Anybody? Anyone else that broadcast games to be the color commentator. Mark Schlarath season. Anyone else. Oh, wow. Is Mark Schlar with anyone? And is he else? Yes. Give me that guy. All right. Every time. You're going to hear a lot of hawk Molly had on a hat stick. I'll take that. I'll take that over over squealing and doodling. Here's the question for you as we kick off our second hour on Grant and Danny. Yesterday's loss. You drop a game in the standings. You're still in first because the Cowboys are so terrible. They gave up. I mean, it would have been if the lions wanted to, they would have scored 60. Give the Ben Johnson alert. How many trick plays did the lions run on them successfully? It's a big number. They lined up Dan Skipper on the first play as eligible after like the whole game plan all week was we were robbed when we went there last time and they made us angry and we are going to go there. We are going to take their children and bring them home with us. They just kidnapped all of the Cowboys children and came back. Yeah, they were not afraid to run up the score, rub it in right there, by the way, which was interesting. They ran a hook and ladder to a go to a tackle. Yeah. They ran a play where Skipper who quote unquote didn't report eligible last year, he did. They lined him up at wide receiver and had him run a slant and it was there. And for some reason, their backup quarterback just stared at him like, oh, he's open. That's weird. What should I do? Should I throw it? I can't throw it to him. He's a lineman. What the hell are we running the play for then? So I guess they didn't actually want to throw it. They just wanted to like troll. So he just took a sack. He waited like four more seconds after the slant was wide open rather than throwing the ball to the lineman. I didn't understand that. But they were just quite literally they went to the bathroom on the carpet and then they grabbed the Cowboys by the face and rubbed their nose in it for two quarters. Bim Johnson alert. Bim Johnson alert. Bim Johnson alert. Meanwhile, in Philadelphia, the Eagles, barely, I mean, snuck by the name, the Browns. And I was like, Oh my goodness, the Sean Watson got right. Cleveland's offense awoke from a slumber the weeks of that now of calling for Watson's job and, you know, their coaches, two time coach of the year, by the way, and Kevin Stafansky, his head's been called for. So they were motivated. They were inspired. The Sean Watson was awful. Their touchdown was on a blocked field goal. They almost beat the Eagles. And after the game, Nick Siriani, the head coach of Philly, by week, by the way, extra time to prepare home field, 20 to 16 squeaker over the Browns. They had the ball first and goal at the one with a chance to tie the game in the waiting minutes. And then they did the same thing they did against Washington where they committed like four penalties and had too many guys in the huddle. And they moved back 10 yards because they're a high school team, not a good one, but a bad high school team. Then they had to kick a field goal or else they would have tied the game. Oh, yeah. Nick Siriani starts screaming and cursing at fans behind the bench. That's where we are. By the Eagles fans. Yes. Not Browns fans. Not one getting chirped by some, by some, you know, the dog pound. But it by the dudes from Arundel or Scuco River, like he's getting like what is going on. I mean, what what a bizarre stepped on my shoes in Arlington Hammer Dude, bro. That guy is like, what are we doing? You scuff my Tim's. Thank you swinging on dudes. This is how, oh, sorry, dude. No, man. Let's fight about it. What fraternity are you in? Because that's not mine. Let's swing. Boob. I'm ready to rule on Nick Siriani. I listen, I stinks. Who gave more benefit than that? Nick Siriani than this guy? Not many people. You know how you get benefited out when the team just team keeps winning and winning and winning and winning. He was he was one of the winningest coaches ever through a couple of seasons, I think, by way of percentage. It is now unserious in Philadelphia. He's a goofball. That displayed to me and maybe and who knows maybe I'm overreacting. I have no idea. I just know this. That was unserious. That like you're trying to lead men. Please lead them. Not not in turning around and yelling at your own fan base by the way, the victory speech in the locker room with like ball over his head, you know, like gather around gentlemen. His whole shtick was like, we remain humble and we win with class guy who was just yelling at the fans on the field and then tell those fans to kiss my ear. Like that's what he did. Exactly. Like that's what he did. Just a complete goofball. I mean, he just is. He's a he's the silliest of geese, but I bring this up not randomly here, but because this is part of why I feel so much better. And you're on this early credit to your local 53 after they lose to the Ravens because the Cowboys are not good. Please say this with me. The Cowboys are not good. And dare I say, the three and two Philadelphia Eagles at this moment are not good. They're not. I know who is pretty good. Who's out the Washington commanders who are foreign to. So that's reason number one, why I feel better after the Ravens loss. And that's the question for you guys. MGM National Harbor listener lines. I know it was an elbate feel better worse. So the same 806361067. I've got a couple other bullet points here. You want me to give you those now or do you want to go? I want them now. All right. So number one, the division is the division. Giants, bad Cowboys, frauds, Eagles, frauds. At best, one of Dallas or Philly will be in the 10 win mix. And so will Washington. So you're in a really good spot. That's number one. Number two, people won't like this one because this feels a little like moral victory Monday. You played with the Ravens. You went there. A lot of things didn't go your way, by the way, in terms of not being able to run the ball, terrible defensive game, missed field goal, some ugly stuff throughout. And you were right there in the end, you lose by seven. Now I will also acknowledge, I don't know if you'd agree with this, Danny, I never thought the commanders were at risk of winning that game. Did you know that way? No, if they've come out with a win somehow, it would have felt like they stole one. Right. Right. Was there a moment after the early pick and the three nothing lead or like three, three, where you thought, they're gonna, they're gonna steal this. They're gonna beat the Ravens in Baltimore. I never really felt that way. No, I didn't either. I didn't either. I mean, thinking about the start of the second half, the fact that they even the kick got blocked or whatever the hell that was at the end of the first half where they're going, okay, we move the ball to get that field goal attempt. We get the ball to start at the second half. Maybe here's where they go down and score a touchdown. But then once they didn't, I went, okay, now it's right back to Baltimore's offense on the field and you settle for a field goal in an opening drive of the third quarter. Baltimore's one of this game. That's how it felt. So number two then is you played with the Ravens and you proved, I think, that you can play with just about anybody. Number three reason why I feel better after this game than before it. This to me was a really good Jaden Daniels step. If you don't want to say he played a great game, you don't have to. I don't think he was great. He was very solid. He was good. And here's what I needed to see Danny. What happens in a game where he isn't ahead of the chains constantly with the run game. What happens in a game where he doesn't have the ability to slip out of the pocket and use his feet whenever he wants to as his easy button. When a team kind of keeps him in the pocket and forces him to throw and he is the offense with his arm. Not the running game helping him. Not him as a runner, but it's his right arm or bust. I think he passed that test with flying colors. Don't you? I do. I do. I felt really good about that. And then lastly, you know that I have been probably the last holdout on this maybe. I have not been sold on Austin cyber who at kicker had been flawless coming into this game and then he had a kick blocked at the end of the half. Maybe it was too low. I'd have to go back and I don't I'm not even qualified enough really to know. Is it too low? Is it, you know, bad protection? I don't know. But he made three field goals, including his two longest of the season. He was good from 49. He was good from 54. His longest by about nine and a half yards on the year. And I watched him in pregame warmups, routinely booting the ball with ease through 55, 56. So some of my questions about his length and the ability to just drive the ball from 50 plus were answered honestly weirdly in a day where he had a kick blocked. He also had an extra point that almost got that was wobbly. It was blocked. Was it actually touched? Yeah, I believe it wasn't definitive on the on the telecast. And they just kind of moved on. Bulls don't really move like that. So I mean, it was kicked like sideways like a spinning top toward the goalpost. I'm pretty sure that one got touched too. There was a lot of hands around the football. But my concern was you've got to get to 45 to 47 from to be able to make field goals. Kai for bath style. Or at least the way they thought Kai for bath was when they first signed him. I think he proved that wrong, didn't he? I think so. I mean, to me, the reason so I dance the question big picture. I feel better. Similar reasons to you. And this is most I was a bit more of a holdout on let's not slam the gavel on Philadelphia just yet. Let's not tell you that Dallas is over with as you know, coming into this particular week. That's not what good teams do though. Good teams don't look like that Detroit's really good. By the way, I think that we we slept on them because they're really lost to Tampa. That's the best team right now in the NFC. Maybe that'll change with San Francisco gets right if they get pieces back, etc. But they're to me, a juggernaut when when they are right and they're right right now. So, but you still you'd be competitive at some point. They never were not at one not at any point in time. Whatever Detroit felt like doing they could have done. We could have a 300 yard four touchdown day for David Montgomery. We could have done it. Would you mirror Gibbs? We could have felt I'm on Ross and Brown. We could have had Sam Laporta go whatever they felt like doing they could do. And Dallas was not competitive. They're falling apart and Philadelphia. I'm going okay. They got a J Brown back and they got Devonta Smith back both both that touchdowns yesterday still got sick one Barkley who threw a handful of weeks with the best weapon in the sport. They'll be good. They'll be fine. And they weren't they really struggled to move the football couple big plays against Cleveland's defense, including the long Smith touchdown. So is your feeling better exclusively based on the rest of the division? No, that's part one and part two is I want to know what happens are one of the know what happens when we always talk about this. When it's not 72 and sunny. I want to know when by the way, I don't know if it was actually 72 and sunny or not. That was the best weather game I can ever remember. It was real comfortable. Yeah. It was so nice out. Like that is whatever the default setting is on Madden on a one o'clock kick. You want that? What a nice day. It was 67 degrees. Yeah, a little bit. Not a problem at all. But I want to know what happens. And what happens is Jay Daniels is still awesome. Ta-da. Solved. Done. So happy about it. Just keep them healthy. And we're going to have wonderful results. That's that's all I feel. So yeah, I actually feel more encouraged. The if it's just for the designs of this year, I said this morning on the junks, you go, Oh, bummer would have rather won the game. And maybe they're not a Super Bowl contender. Maybe Jay Daniels is not the MVP. I think all that stuff was reactionary and a bit far faster as it was. So for the purposes of this year, you'd like to meet Caroline and be five and two. But I'm still in a, this is bonus time. I what they've done already is so much better than my expectations. I'm so thrilled that, yeah, you had to sit back against the team that might end up being a Super Bowl contender. Okay, not a big deal. We're still a year and a half, two years ahead of schedule, as far as I'm concerned. And I know that may not be the type of winner talk that everybody wants, but just a reality. They have a hundred plus million dollars in cap space before they do anything handy in the next year. That's not a team that's trying to compete right now the second. And here they are competing. Jesse tweeted me. I'm at Grand H. Paul Sundani is at funny Danny. He says they showed plenty of replays. The extra point was not blocked or touched. I watched it a few times yesterday. There's a ton of hands near the ball and the ball spins in a non natural way. Like, I don't know that you kick a ball on it. It goes that way. I don't know what they said on the broadcast. There's today say it was blocked or it sounds like Danny. You don't think they mentioned it. Well, they mentioned it. They go, we couldn't tell. And then they just moved on so quickly because Tony Romo had to do it. I mean, what did you guys think at home? Yeah, I thought that it was blocked. I didn't even know that I didn't even realize that it went in until I saw the score change, obviously. But yeah, I thought that it was blocked. They didn't mention on the broadcast. And the same went for the the fill goal before half. They didn't even know that it was blocked until after they came back from halftime. Yep. They then told us, yeah, that that kick before half was blocked. So we even in the press box, like we could not tell and they were showing some replays. And we eventually saw it. But the reason we all assumed it was blocked was the dude that blocked it was a guard. I can't remember who it is. Number 66, Big fella. Ben Cleveland. Ben Cleveland. Thank you. He made it very clear that he blocked it. He was just jumping all over. I love that by the way. Thank you. Airplane. Yeah. You know, he started doing an army crawl across the field. He like bit into the rosin bag and pretended like it was a grenade and launched it over to the dugout. I thought it was really weird when he started going through the entire crowd and high fiving everyone. And he started doing that Ezekiel Elliott like I'm so hungry. I'm eating the cereal. And then he did the Justin Jefferson gritty. He was very, very clear because he wanted everyone to know. I touched that. I would finger on. I would too, by the way, I would run around pointing at my hand, whichever one to touch. I'd be like this one right here. Like I got it. I got it. I got it. I was one hockey, which by the way, the caps dropped their first game on Saturday night. Yes, they did. But what an amazing opening ceremony for the 50 year Sally that was brought back so many of the great players. Really anybody who wanted to be there was on site over 70 players were back to be honored on the ice, which is very cool. But let's get two points next time. How about that? Vegas Golden Knights coming to town next up. But I bring up the caps because in hockey, a lot of times you'll see that where a guy will shoot from the point. And we don't know that he redirected. Did he tip it? And what you're supposed to do is not raise your stick and act like you scored a goal if you didn't tip it. But occasionally that teammate will do the uncool thing of being like, yeah, I got that. I got that. And then after 15 replay reviews, you're like, you didn't get not sure he got it. That was just a blast from the point. Does he get proximity credit? But if you think you tipped it, you want everyone to tell the world. Echo goes on the back of your heart. Do you feel better or worse or the same about the commanders as you did before? They lost to the Ravens. We're Grant and Danny. That is the question right now on the fan. [silence] And as you said, you guys were in until the end. How did you feel about the compete level of these guys? You know, I thought we were really ready in that space and showed that all the way through. When you see a time that possessions, you know, switch like it was and long drives. But, you know, coming into the half, you know, at 17, 10, I think we might have just missed a field goal into that spot. But I thought, you know, that was the kind of back and forth fight we were expecting certainly in that spot. Head coach Dan Quinn on his four and two commanders. Welcome back to Grant and Danny on the fan coming up in 30 minutes. You'll have a chance to win caps tickets. They're taking on the Montreal Canadiens on Halloween at Capital One Arena. We got a pair of tickets and the good seats for you listening at four o'clock right here on the fan. Danny, the question is, how do you feel about the loss to the Ravens? Do you feel better or worse or the same about the commanders after the L? Right now on Twitter, I have a poll up. Oh, you've done that. Pollson. You ever done that before? First one? Okay, just trying out a new, I believe it's new technology over on the X. I'm gonna go vote right over there. Look at my vote right there. You'll get a sticker. You can wear it. So everybody knows you voted. Nice. Yo vote a right there. One of those in my bag. Let me see here. The I voted sticker. Mm hmm. I'm not aware of my I voted sticker guy, by the way. I just do it. And then like, I don't need a sticker. Yeah. I go vote as is customary in these here United States. But then I don't post my sticker online or tell everyone I did it because I could lead to conversations. Oh, yes. There's follow up questions there. Yeah. But you don't want to answer. I don't want to answer. And I want you to keep in mind that we agree with you. I am voting for it's interesting. I am voting for the same person you guys are. I do want everyone to know that. Can you believe what this person said or thinks, me neither? Or am I agree? I think the same thing about both candidates as all of you. Mm hmm. That's we're on the same page. We align. Anyway, any hoodles? Yeah. So the poll is coming out of the loss. How do you feel better worse for the same as you did? 20% of fans voting so far several hundred votes in say better. 8% feel worse. I wonder if that's a man this defense is really bad and it's going to continue to get exposed. Yeah. Or I legit thought we were going to beat the Ravens kind of a thing. That could be. Yeah. 71% feel the same. No damage done. I don't feel better. But I certainly don't think this was a step back. Yeah. Just go like a one to ten scale. Five is neutral the same. One is way worse, ten is way better. I think I'm like, it's not like I went up seven points. I didn't go from like a five to a six. But I basically came in feeling good. I left feeling still good, but like even like a little bit better on the good scale, right? Like where I'm going, the rest of the division is not special. It's not as if Philadelphia just got its act together. And Washington show, I think passed a test in a way. Again, I know they didn't win the game. I'm very aware what happened. I wish they had would have been awesome. But it's not like they were not competitive. Like you see what happened when Dallas, who's reeling and not playing great, went up against a really good opponent, they could have lost by 70 points. Like that's what that's the only way I would have felt worse yesterday if it was that non competitive. Who is your neighbor who has the catchphrase on the commercial about a sermon? What's the bit long? Solomon. What does he say? Not a sermon, just a thought, not a sermon, just a thought. So I'm going to go, this is an observation, not a complaint. Okay. I'm giving you an observation, not a complaint here. Cliff Kingsbury didn't even pretend to try to run the ball in this game. The moment they found out Brian Robinson wasn't playing, he said, okay, that's all for us. Thanks. I mean, Austin Echler, like everyone looks at, he ended up with nine for 21, I think. I think it's two of his first three carries for five or six yards out of the gun, like downhill. They ran the ball on those couple of plays and it worked. And he got hit in the backfield several times to be clear. I'm not saying they should have run the ball more. I don't have a problem because they moved the ball. They had 300 plus yards, wasn't a great offensive day about 5.4 pop. But do you agree with me though? It just seemed like he decided we don't have, we don't, we don't have our thumper, our battering round. So our running game is going to be a short passing game, like a balls out quick. Austin Echler, by the way, had four catches in the game for 47 yards, including the sexiest designed by Clifford that I've seen all year. I get so steamed up for Cliff Kingsbury right now, and I'm not even talking about physically and he is handsome. Hands up. Deep voice guy. The the flea flicker screen. Who ran that before them? He obviously saw it somewhere. It's got to be like some home. It's like a Boise state type play. Yeah. It's something wacky in college that he saw a flea flicker screen. For those of you that didn't see the play, Daniels gets the snap. He's got the two backs with him, which is already awesome. You and I have loved this. They do that triangular like one beside him, one next to him pistol look. They do all kinds of quirky formations. Gives to McNichols as Echler picks up the oncoming defender. Echler passes off the defender to McNichols who just tossed the ball back to Jaden Daniels, badly, by the way, very poorly. Daniels has to like make an athletic play to get it. And then he immediately checks it down to Echler. Well, as soon as you see flea flicker as a defender, you're turning and burning, burning burn exactly. Those hips hauling. You know what the other direction Echler catches the screen. Tyler Biotis, she's now pulling out in front. Oh, I got chills thinking about it. It was scintillating. There is to me, and it's got to be the right ingredient. Like you see, Detroit yesterday ran that play that ended up being a long pass to Sam LaPorter for a touchdown. When like somebody else did it. I can't remember which game wasn't watching our red zone, but like they handed off. No, it's a reverse. No, it's a flea flicker. There's a defender literally waiting who annihilates the quarterback for a loss of 12. When they, when they don't work, you don't catch them on the right thing. Men, as it looked like the worst play in the world, like, why would they do that? It's so stupid. When one of those, we know that you know that we know that you know, so now that you know that we know that you know that you know, so we know what you don't know. We're, we're playing this three dimensional thing. We've set this up. We've got every look that we possibly want. We got the right defense. And when you run it, something like that, you go, my God, is that genius? I saw another play from Clifford that I loved. Did anyone see the little fake screen to Echler? Like a bubble, basically, into a wide receiver tunnel screen to the army. So top of the screen. Yes. Right. We've over said screen here, but like you look like you're going left on a screen and either Daniel's turns it down. Yeah. And at the top of the picture, yes, Daniel's there's an Echler is going from the bottom to the top of the TV. He's like, very obviously like waving his hands and come over here. I'm over here. Look at me. Look at me. Eye candy. Eye candy. Who's going to give me something for Halloween doing an Instagram? He's like over there. And then Daniel's pumps him. And here comes the army coming down hill on a wide receiver screen with that tunnel set up and he's slamming into dudes for nine yards because the army on the screen. He's like the most physical guy in the world when he catches a screen pass. I know who knew who knew who knew. But that was an awesome play. That was nice, too. Cliff. What do the kids say? Let me let me look up a quick. I have one here. My son told me. I believe I've got one for this situation. Let's see it. Sit in them for doing a nice job with play calling. He's in his bag. He's in his bag. Inside his bag there. I'm looking for in his bag. What have accepted in his bag, reaching deep into his bag. Let's see here, dug into his bag. And then we'll use that one. Well, let me adjust my glasses here. My spectacles appeared to have slid down. In his bag. You thought I was white when I said usher, huh? In his bag. We'll go with that. Challenge accepted Anthony and DC. You're on Grant and Danny. Hello. Hey, what's up, guys? Thank you. Take them out for a long time. This is a long time call. I love you guys for your swing. Hey, so before I get started, let me say this. We were looking at the game yesterday, me and my wife. So that particular play Danny, I said, Oh my God, a reverse flea flicker. And I think also the equity running down the sidelines. And so my wife say a reverse flea flicker. She said, Is that really a football time? I said, yes. She said, Oh, I thought she was making it up because she thought the word flea flicker was hilarious. She never heard that term before. I love that. You got talking about it. I was just laughing at that. But as far as the game, like I told Doc Saturday, I'm definitely encouraged about what we did. It's not about the win. I mean, it's always about winning. Don't get me wrong. It's about the progress and the process. And I see that everybody was playing hard. Everybody was flying around. I mean, we lost a team that some people would say is going to win a Super Bowl by only one possession. And keep in mind, guys, every team ain't got Derrick Henry. Because well, in the 10 of him and Lamar Jackson started to cut you out. I love those words process and progress. Yeah, because that's again, I'm still trying to keep a level head about things their way ahead of schedule. So you don't apologize for being the best in a mediocre division or even a bad one. So win as many games as you can. But big picture progress in this process. I'm all about that reminds me of her med words. Her med words one time said this thing that still resonates in the NFL. He said, you play to hang around with the elite team in the game. I think that's what it wasn't that what he said. I think that's a real quick way to lose the game within one possession in the game. I think that's what he said. I think that's the quote. Yeah. Look, so many tough guys are going to do the like no moral victories thing. Call it whatever you want. They're four and two and in first. They are way ahead of schedule. And the thing I care the most about is the quarterback. And on a day where he was asked to do more with his arm because there was less help in the run game and less he could do with his feet because the Ravens didn't want him to. He did the things with his arm pretty effectively. That's exciting to me eight hundred six three six one oh six seventy. Feel better. We're so the same out of the Ravens game. We'll take a few more of these. Also squeeze in a double play. We got those caps tickets in 20 minutes. Jay Gruden at five today in an hour and 20 on Grant and Danny. You. Our double plays driven by. Your local Washington area Honda dealer stopping for a great deal on the rugged and capable Honda pilot. Contact your local Washington area Honda dealers today. We will make this quick. Let's hit the phones with commanders fans waiting on a Monday after a ball game in just a couple eight hundred six three six one oh six seven. You want to hop in Danny. You're double play. Do super quickly GP a game that I'm playing on PS five called black myth Wukong has sold just over what black myth Wukong that is the name of the game okay and just over a month has sold more than 20 million copies and just over a month I said again has sold more than 20 million copies globally globally. This is now where we are that the biggest game can take on the biggest movie and then sometimes beat it. So normally right now what's going on with with games is a brand new game is usually 69, 99, 70 bucks. This one they priced a little bit less 59, 99. It's well over a billion dollars in terms of revenue cost him forty three million dollars to make. They're probably going to end up making two billion dollars over the life of this thing which is incredible which is bigger than it's now the number one form of sort of art consumption entertainment. That's what I have for you. Your boys double play when you cancel an Uber because they won't come you lose money. You're charged five dollars when an Uber cancels on you nothing happens. Now drivers will tell you well my score gets dinged. I'm sure maybe maybe it doesn't. I know I get nothing for it but I know that I don't even get the opportunity to sign back up for a ride or not. Maybe my circumstances have changed. Maybe I've decided now I'm going to wait. The next person just picks me up and I need to get something back when I've waited for the 20 some minutes that someone's supposed to be coming to me and then they don't and now it resets at 14 more minutes because the driver canceled and now I'm just out inconvenience time energy money for whatever else. Did that happen to us in Cincinnati? It happens all the time everywhere. Yeah. Just need that cleaned up. That's all. Otherwise great situation and improvement over the old life that I lived where I would call a taxi at an 800 number and wait for an hour whatever else would happen. This is better. Let's figure this out together and I totally understand trying to protect drivers because there's a number of things that should be taken into consideration and I'm all for that. That one I don't get though to your point where it's like I'm just I'm the consumer. I've already waited a long time. Now my weight is indefinite and I have no recourse. Like there should be a recourse is all is all we're saying. Chris Susan Hyatt's Phil, Chris, you feel better worse than the same as you did before the Ravens game about your commanders. I can't say I feel better just because they lost and I feel like some words were exposed but I don't feel tremendously worse. I mean the first and foremost, Jane Daniels proved that he can hold his own with some of the best in the league. So that's great. Some things that do concern me though, there's just not a lot of playmakers on the field besides Terry McClellan and they seem to get these guys involved struggled to get them involved. Also we can't score touchdown unless Jane Daniels literally throws the ball into the end zone like we're not getting any rack after the catch which is concerning me and also I don't know why we continue to go shotgun when the ball is on the first one yard line or two yard line in a goal to go situation. I know Robinson wasn't there. I really wish Rodriguez had been called up. I'm not sure why that wasn't a decision they made but yeah that's how my feelings on the game. It's a good point. I mean like there are a lot of good points there actually. The shotgun thing doesn't bother me because they run so well from shotgun whether you're under center. I understand the idea is you're closer to the goal line but if you're turning and running back and meeting the line running back four yards behind the line anyway to hand it to him really what is the difference necessarily. So you're helping on one hand in theories you're helping the running back get more momentum instead of having the ball flat footed he's taking steps towards the line. That disadvantage by not doing it that way is negated by potentially having defenders be flat footed. Does that make sense? So like the outside line back of the defensive end and a read option kind of look is standing there waiting and then you can start before he starts the it's just a tradeoff to me. So I know people get to get irritated that you have to go one foot but you're eight yards back. I hate that. I understand that just visually but to me it's not this some sort of give up on the run here's my goal line complaint. I will say I need Cliff Kingsbury to not call any more quarterback powers down on the goal line and I will blame Daniels probably more than Kingsbury for what happened. Did you see the big shot he took at the one. Oh yeah trying to get in. So they pull a guard to kind of run this power thing. It's a design keeper obviously and he just gets walloped. I think he bounced it further outside like no longer has a lead blocker to help protect him to try to get in and he got destroyed. That's not necessarily the Kingsbury design but you put him in a position to make those decisions when there's 22 bodies all piled up and you're asking him to slam the ball over the goal line when he weighs 206 pounds or you know 197 probably by the end of the game yesterday or whatever it was like I am out on that for sure. I would like to see no more of those. Kevin in Arlington. What's going on. Hey boys sort of piggybacking on Chris's great call just then. I'm slightly disappointed. Here's why I had to give up the ghost following yesterday's defensive performance. The 99 Rams achievement of going and winning the Super Bowl after a season I think that's safe. We simply are broken defensively when we play top fight offenses. We saw it against Tampa. We saw it against Cincinnati and we saw it yesterday against Baltimore and that said you know Danny I know you've been in all about you know long-term big picture and I'm there with you as well but if there's anything that they can do by the trade deadline to shore up the one thing they they they a lot of people you and me both I think we're concerned about off at the tackle and corner and tackle has worked out better than I should have hoped for. But at corner Mike Davis did not work out. They suck with Forbes. They didn't. I mean whereas every other position they addressed by adding someone in free agency or whatever they kind of let corner be or if they thought you know Mike Davis was the answer they were wrong and so I still think though they have a chance to fix that and I hope that they do. I think if we're going to go to playoffs and we should like Grant said the division is there to be taken. I don't want to get to the dance and not dance a little. We need to acquire a quarterback from now some way and I want to see that happen. I actually want to talk about the point you're making next hour at about 4.30 or so but I want to get into should they be trying to fix this defense with a trade or two at the deadline and maybe flip the switch to being a contender and viewing this season as not just a building year where you let your kids take lumps and where oh we're not good on defense. We don't like our secondary but we'll play the guys we have the ones that are good. We'll be around next year. We'll get rid of everybody else. Should they be viewing this as well the divisions there to be had. There's no reason we can't make some noise in the playoffs with this offense. Let's go get a call. You're one Rivera right where you go. We're here. Let's not apologize for it. Let's go win it. Exactly except this time you're actually good and you could hit the deadline. Yeah there's that. Make a real trade and make yourself better. Is that something they should be thinking about? We'll get to that coming up next hour on Grant and Danny. But right here at the top of the hour we are giving away a pair of caps tickets for an upcoming game against Montreal on Halloween. You better be listening if you want those. We'll blitz you around town as well. Remember in one hour Jay Gruden joins us to discuss Jaden Daniels and the commanders right here on the fan. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] Call or 10 to 800-636-1067. You're winning two tickets to see the caps. Take on the Montreal Canadians. Halloween October 31st, Capital One Arena. Tickets in the complete schedule are available right now at thefanduc.com/contests. We'll be giving a pair of tickets to that game away right here on the fan exclusively on GND at four o'clock ahead of the blitz all week long. Danny you sleep on Chris Russell and myself. Oh kicking at old school yesterday. Little fellowship driving up to Baltimore together. How about that? You carpooled. Thought about doing an Instagram live of Rini just yelling at every driver ever who drove. He takes everything done on the road personally. It's unbelievable. And there's the occasional Jackrabbit who flies at 85 past year, cuts you off or whatever. But everything anybody does is in a front. At one point a guy who is 50 yards in front of us in the left lane changes over to the middle lane and Russell goes, "See, this is what I hate. This is what I hate." And I was like, "What's the matter?" And he goes, "That car, he just moved over. He didn't have to do that." And I said, "What's wrong with him doing that?" And he's like, "Everyone's going to check up now. We've all got to tap our brakes." No, we don't. We'll just go. But Rini got me there safely. Yes. Very, very kind. And he just returned to me my phone charger that I left in the press box. What you left a phone charger behind? Grant Paulson did? Hard to believe. What? But the brand new press box in a much worse location as they all are in 2024. They moved just from right at the 50 yard line down into the corner. But they still have a great spread, good food. They treat you like royalty. You got to shout out the Ravens and do a good job. Love it. But I left my press box, Paulson, phone charger. And Russell brought it back to me. Look at that guy. So save in the day. Save in the day. It's my MVP. I'll give him a game ball for his efforts. The DMV's football team has a bright future. It's time for you to plan yours as well. The exclusive sponsor of our show will help. That's our buddy's, the law firm, Condorian Murad. They'll update your last will and testament. Set up a trust for you and your family. Get yourself a consultation with their estate planning attorneys now at kmloyers.com. That's kmloyers.com. It is time for the belt label. It's the caps are unfortunately, oh, and one. But now they're openers behind them. They're 50th celebrations, mostly behind them. And they can just get down to hockey. Billy Johnson covers the caps for the Washington Post. A billy for people that may have missed Saturday nights opener. What did they miss? What'd you think? Yeah, it was kind of an odd one, which is usually to be expected in an opening game, especially with New Jersey playing their fourth game. You could certainly tell that one team had had a few opportunities to work out the kinks and get those first game jitters out of the way, and the other team hadn't. You could tell that the capitals are better able to hang with the skating of a team like New Jersey now than they could a year ago. There were still moments where the speed was a little too much to handle. It kind of got away from them in the second period. But overall, there were positive signs that this is a faster, more skilled team than it was last year. And where it went wrong was just some glaring defense of the stakes that ended up in the back of their own net, which isn't what you want to see, but also are all very fixable and very obvious things to clean up. Yeah, Billy, give them into my question. I mean, last year, really, it's been a little bit for this caps org where I just feel like they're just slower. Whether that straight ahead sprint speed or short area, quickness or whatever, it just felt like it's labor in them for them to do what other teams do to them all the time. And it didn't feel that way all Saturday, but it certainly did some time. I know Jersey's fast, but I'd like to be fast too. How close is that gap now between them and some of the teams that can really skate? It's certainly closer. It's still probably not quite close enough. I think this transformation of the roster is going to be an ongoing process. Obviously, they made a ton of moves in the off season. There's seven new players on the team, all of whom were in the lineup with Logan Thompson backing up on Saturday. So they've turned over quite a bit of the team with an eye on getting younger and getting faster, and they have in a lot of areas. But it's one of those things that's going to be a little bit of a process. I know it's hockey. So like if somebody got their leg chopped off indoor, or lower body bitten by a bug, it's just the same basically announcement from the team, which in a gambling era is outrageous still. But what do we know about Matt Roy's injury? Not a whole lot. He left the game early in the second period and didn't return. The team is calling him day to day. Spencer Carbury said today he's likely to miss a decent amount of time. He didn't really elaborate on that further. That could mean a week. That could mean two weeks. That could mean really anything. He didn't skate today. So certainly won't play tomorrow. Dylan McElrath took that spot next to Martin Ferriari on that second defensive pair. So definitely won't play tomorrow. I would guess it'll be a little bit for Matt Roy, but nobody seems too concerned since they're calling him day to day and not something worse like week to week. Billie, how did some of the new faces think in Dubois, Chikrin, you know, Marjipani, how did some of the new guys fit in and how do they look? I thought Dubois looked really good Saturday night. One of the knocks against him has been that he doesn't always play with the most physical intensity. He can kind of come in and out on being engaged. Thought he was super engaged on every shift with using his body, making plays, holding onto the puck. His line seemed to click really well and find a lot of traction, which was really encouraging early sign. Chikrin playing with John Carlson is super fun. You really can't take your eyes off them when they're on the ice because if they're not scoring a goal, they might be giving one up. It's a little bit of a high-risk, high-reward situation, but so far for the Capitals, it's working because the two of them generate more offense than what goes the other way. They're sort of a "the best defense is a good offense" type of defensive pairing, where they're just going to have the puck the whole time, and it doesn't really matter what else happens. So he's been fun to watch. He's so unbelievably skilled with the puck for defense. It's been in a really strong skater. The fourth line with Brandon Duham and Taylor Radish taking on new spots next to Nick Dowd has clicked well. We'll get our first look at Logan Thompson tomorrow night as he plays against his old team, the Vegas Golden Knights, and that for the first time. So a lot of interesting faces and a lot of interesting stuff going on for them right now. Bayley, we're so excited to have you back on the show here regularly throughout the hockey season and to be reading all your content before and after games. Thanks so much, we appreciate you. Great feedback. Thanks guys. Let's go out and check out Bayley's work in the Washington Post on the caps. Let's keep the blitz moving. Mike Jones of the Athletic joins us on Grant and Danny. Mike, where to begin? Let's start here in Washington with the commanders and the Ravens. What did you think of the game Sunday? You know, I know it was a loss, but and I don't think this really exists, but it was kind of like a quality loss. That was a better team that they went up against. They're supposed to lose to that team really, but I felt like they went toe to toe with them, especially offensively. Obviously, there's stuff to work on in defense, but you know, they were still competitive in the past. They would have gotten blown out by that team. It wouldn't have been close. We wouldn't have seen the positives that we saw. So I felt like, you know, you can come away from that feeling pretty good about the future of this team. I'm just going to say the name of the team and I want your reaction. The Dallas Cowboys. So Lord. Yep. I don't know man. It's panic time for sure. You know, I thought we would get to the end of the season and like, yes, time to move on from Mike McCarthy, but like it's time now. I know Jerry Jones said he's not going to do that, but this team, it looks like the game has passed. Mike Zimmer by the defensive coordinator looks like there's no creativity offensively, no counter punch for Mike McCarthy. This team is two talented. Yes, they have injuries, but they're two talented to get blown out like that. Yeah, just just a bad situation of that. A poorly coached team. When do we get to say that the Eagles aren't good? Well, you know, when we see them, I guess get blown out against a quality team like the Cowboys yesterday. Look, they they're getting their guys back healthy, so there's still time for them for the season, but I don't know. I've got serious questions about Nick Siriani and I don't know that this team is ever going to play up to their potential. Yes, it'll be better. It was a little shaky touch and go there at times yesterday, but they were pulled out the win. You know, we'll see what they're like at them, you know, in a couple of weeks once they run into quality teams and we'll find out if they're okay. Yeah, no, but just not getting any better. It wasn't just the injuries. It's time for them to find a new guy at the head coach. Speaking of trying to find a new guy, I can't believe Jacksonville's this bad. Too straight. Unless they were disappointed, Mike, because they only won nine games. They were like Houston before it was cool where they jumped up from a from a joke of a franchise with urban Meyer, you know, kicking people in the junk and whatever else was going on to win nine games at Doug Peterson. Then one nine games last year, which was viewed as a disappointment. They are a tire fire at this point. Yeah, it's really bad. I thought and I was texting people this morning about them and everybody I talked to is kind of like, man, I don't know what to tell you. Like everybody around the NFL is very in some people who worked with Doug Peterson, very surprised that this team is as bad as it is that they're playing as poorly as they are. You know, I talked to one guy who said, look, it's a lot of turnovers that they have had a chance, except for the Buffalo game to win a lot of the games they're in. But for the most part, everybody I talk to is like, look, yeah, he won a Super Bowl, but sometimes you get hot at the right time. Sometimes, you know, there's an anomaly and this kind of vindicates how he roseman shows why he moved on from his quickly if he did. I feel like yesterday was pretty encouraging day for rookie quarterbacks. Bo Nix maybe not withstanding. He did okay in the second half, but it was an ugly first half. But we talked about Jaden Daniels, how much he's played. Caleb Williams threw four touchdowns and then I drink may in a bad situation did some really good things with New England. What do you make of this rookie class so far? Well, I mean, I think that we're seeing, you know, we need to see more about Drake May before I can really draw anything out of that. You know, tough situation he was put in against Houston, but he, you know, he did well against a very tough defense, had some rookie spots yet. As far as Chicago goes, you can tell that Shane Waldron, the offensive coordinator, is starting to get it on how to position his, his guy for success. They put way too much on Caleb Williams early out of the gates, but now they're leaning into the runs, ease pressure off of him and he's steadily ascending. You know, and so yeah, I think that it looks like the future is bright for this class. We'll see where it goes. Bo Nix, yeah, he looks good at times. He had a rough, you know, first half and part of the third quarter, you only had 27 passing yards, but that's going to happen with a rookie quarter back. You'll be up and down. But for the most part, yeah, I think that this is a savvy group of rookies. They'll be growing pains, but they are processing things pretty quickly and showing growth. Mike, thank you as always, buddy. Be well. All right, have a good one. We'll see you my friend. Hit that local 53 sounder. All right, dude, Mitch Tischler. We'll talk about that Washington football group of 53. Mitch, how are we supposed to feel after losing yesterday? Grant and I both actually kind of feel encouraged and maybe even better. Could anyone happen the rest of the division? How should we be feeling? Well, we just watched Francisco Lindor hit a home run and first sitting here of the you mark you. But congrats on your first run. So fun. Should we talk about last night's game or should we only talk about this, Mitch? Was there even a game last night? What are you talking about? Exactly. Anyways, I think commander stands should feel can feel any range of equal to the way they felt leading into the Ravens game or better after watching that team perform me personally. I felt I feel better about this organization and this team. I love the way that Jayden Daniels kind of went, you know, him versus the world there. He had very little help in the run game. The whole line didn't have a great game. Obviously, the defense struggled and yet there they were within, you know, one or two scores for essentially the entire game and it was impressive to watch Jayden, you know, try and lead this comeback because he didn't go out there and try and get two touchdowns with one throw. Like you see quarterback do all the time, you know, try and make up the difference. He stayed composed. He stayed calm. He moved the ball down the field and they ultimately, you know, were able to put up points. It wasn't the smoothest game in the world for them, but they proved that they could stay in the game with legit Super Bowl contender and to me, that's a big step up to this organization. Buy or sell my take on John Allen's injury. First of all, I'm bummed for him. I mean, that goes without saying and for the organization, it's a gigantic loss, but I do think they are better prepared to make it maybe less of a deal breaking death sentence than in the past with the Newton pick. They kept five mathists around. They obviously have a guy on the practice squad who's made, you know, played in 70 plus games and Sheldon Day. I'm not saying it's not a big loss. He's a good player, but I do feel like they were already bad defensively. Like this is going to be not ideal rather than, oh my God, the sky is falling. Yeah, it's not the sky is falling because the defense hasn't been good anyway, particularly the run defense of the middle hasn't been good. But let's be honest. I mean, John Allen is a superior athlete and player and he is a better individual player than any of the rest of the guys that they're going to bring in to replace them, but they do have a little more depth now. And I think that's something that you saw Adam Peters and Dan Quinn one address in the off season was the depth across the board so that an injury like this wouldn't, you know, submarine an entire season. But ultimately, you know, I think it's a huge opportunity for Johnny Newton to step up and, you know, show that he is the second round player that he is, to Darian Mathis, also another second rounder that, you know, you want to see more from. And I question, I brought this up, I think to you, maybe yesterday in the crossblock grant when we were watching the game. But Baderian Mathis, I think does a little bit better job in the run game in terms of occupying blocks, as opposed to trying to make the play himself. So maybe if Baderian's in there a little bit more on some of the early downs, you'll see Frankie Louvoo and Bobby Wagner and the linebackers, maybe the safeties as they step up has to deal with a few with some fewer offensive linemen making it to the second lever. Level because Big Phil can do that. So I didn't hear you mention that because you were so far away. So it was hard to hear everything that was going on. I mean, you we both caught some of the things that came out of our mouths on each other, probably like Mitch and I were show, like our shoulders touched for three and a half hours. Oh, and on the other side of me is Chris Russell, who was his shoulder. It's just a lot of dudes and was right in there. It was just the O line was stacked in. And we had to tell each other like, all right, I'm going to get up because otherwise you it's like trying to pry a sardine out of a can like you got it. Yeah, it's like when the pictures crowd having us to turn sideways kind of. Yeah, it was a show. I don't know that turning sideways would have really done a lot a lot of help. But for all the complaints about FedEx or Northwest field and getting in and out of that stadium and some of the faults there, the Ravens changing their press box to me is a huge mistake. They had an awesome press box and turned into a mediocre one for us. But you're speaking as a media guy. And I agree with you. But how much money are they making on whatever suites they built where we used to sit, which is why they're doing it. Absolutely. I don't blame them for doing it, but I'm going to complain about it. But the bigger complaint for me was the getting in and out of the stadium, the parking lot. We ended up working at the casino. It took 90 minutes from getting off of 95 to getting to the casino parking lot, which is absolutely unconscionable considering it's what? Six tenths of a mile, eight tenths of a mile. No, that's actually such a good point to Mitch because you don't really hear. Now, I'm not, you know, on the Ravens beat, but I guarantee there's less complaining. You hear so much about how great the atmosphere, the environment is, the stadium is, and it is all of those things largely. By the way, I cannot wrap my head around the fact, Danny, that stadium in Baltimore, which is pretty fantastic still was built while they were building the old Jack Kent Cook stadium, nonsense, Northwest FedEx, whatever the heck it's called now. They were being built at the same time. But to your point, Mitch, we complain about everything about this stadium because it's not fun to go to it because the team is terrible. That was a way worse traffic in and out situation. In my opinion, what I experienced than what I experienced at home games. Absolutely. And I think it goes to show you the winning football team covers up flaws all throughout, you know, the organization and location and all those different things. And I point to that when when folks still come at me about all of the things that they like to complain about when it comes to the Washington organization. Mitch, quick one. I posited this earlier today and I've said it a couple of times and I want to see if you think I'm full of it. I feel like the last two weeks now granted Cleveland's defense is pretty good. I think Baltimore is going to continue to get better, especially against the run. But I think that there's been a degree of figuring out Washington's design quarterback runs, right? Those haven't been there really last couple weeks and it's forced Washington to do other stuff, which they had. They've done pretty well. I think on offense, I don't think anyone's complaining. But it's something I noticed where almost like that valve has been shut off against them. Do you agree? Yeah, it's certainly something that seems to have decided that they want to shut Jaden down on and they want to make him prove that they can beat him with his arms. I thought he had a pretty good game yesterday. He had the one-sailed throw to Noah Brown that probably should have been picked, but obviously wasn't. Listen, I mean, as it comes to working quarterback, teams tend to catch up to them. Cliff Kingberry has a history of teams catching up to him. I appreciate some of the misdirection and a lot of the fun design plays that Cliff has thrown out there, but he's going to have to continue to evolve the base offense to counter the changes that the defenses are coming to show him. To me, I think this game against the Panthers coming up is such a as much as leading into the Ravens game. It felt like a little bit of a measuring stick game. I think the Panthers game is an equal measuring stick game because Burgundy and Gold teams of old would have had a disappointing loss against the team, come back home and maneuver the bed and lost that game. I just don't think that Dan Quinn and this front office and this coaching staff are going to have these guys in a position where they're not ready to play on Sunday, but playing a bad team after a game like Baltimore is almost as much a measuring stick for me to see how well these guys are prepared and how much they're ready to put their foot on the front of the Panthers because by no means should this game be closed on Sunday. That's well said. I know what you guys are all thinking. Mitch is not a good guy. He's a Mets fan. He is a good guy. He's just confused, and that's why we'll let him go by saying go Dodgers. Thank you, Mitch. Hey, hey, hey, you guys enjoyed us beating the beating of Phillies, right? We loved it. Yeah, so enjoy us for that. Well, we will thank you for that. Yeah, like so, but this is enough. Yeah, but you did that and then thank you. Now go home. You had your fun. Thank you, Mitchell. That is your beltway blitz on Grant and Danny. The commanders have flaws that are not being corrected in house because they don't have the talent to do it. Should they consider making a trade for help in their secondary, fixing their defensive issues in season by trading draft picks and upgrading now rather than awaiting to the off season at the beginning of this build. Let's get into that next on the fan. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] Just a silver in a running pack on second and 10. Texas pass intercepted. There's that first interception. Sangristil, the rookie from Michigan, has it. Look at Lamar Jackson swinging down. But we had just said not a single pick on the whole year and boom, the very next snap, they take it away. Hot and wide. Lamar Jackson missing the mark. Andrew's ball batted off his hands up into the air into the waiting arms of Mikey Centeristil. By the way, it is just so uncanny. They literally had gone on about how Washington has no interceptions. There aren't any this year. There have been hundreds of pass attempts against them. And then of course that next play, whatever that is, I'm not going to tell you that that's the reason why there was an interception. I'm also telling you it's unbelievable that's how it happened. That's what I got for you. >> Yeah, and they had just gotten in the red zone. They were cooking offensively. Washington gets a big takeaway. They need a bunch more of those if they're going to turn it around defensively. Show notes, programming note for you guys. So we do have Jay Gruden coming up in 30 minutes, fired up for that. We'll talk to him about Jayden Daniels performance. He's watched the film for us. What did he think about Cliff Kingsbury's call of the game? Also want to dive in on the rest of the NFL with Jay coming up at five o'clock, so make sure you're listening. Tomorrow we got a hell of a show plan. Trey Wingo of ESPN fame, great NFL insider. He hosted NFL live for many, many, many, many years. He'll be on the show at three and Austin Eckler's weekly Tuesday appointment. He'll be with us at five o'clock tomorrow. So you'll want to hear from both of those guys. But I don't know if you guys have heard the commercial that dropped on the fan today. We got ourselves a little show field trip happening on Friday that is going to kick off a series that we'll be doing a series, a series of field trips on Friday. >> Let's go. >> To get out and about the old Grant and Danny Friday field trip. We're going to pick sports bars based on you guys. Tell us where you want us to go. Where do you want us to do the show on Fridays as we get ready for the first place commander's football game. It's the old Friday field trip. I wouldn't say we'd pack a brown, you know, brown bag and do a lunch bit. >> But we're going to delicious sports. >> Would we do that when there's chicken wings and fryers where we're going people? We wouldn't do that. >> No, and there's no need to. You don't have to pack a lunch because lunch will be provided. There's cola coming out of fountains where we're going. Why would we bring a bottle of water? >> No need. Nobody's going to. >> No need. I'm fired up dude. I like that. >> This week the Friday field trip debuts in Leesburg at Spankies, shenanigans. Pub. You familiar with this spot? >> I have never been, but I will have been by Friday evening. >> Say that again because now I'm confused. >> Okay. See, you ask me if I'd been. The answer is no. >> Yeah, so the answer is no. >> If you ask me in the future, say like Friday at 631, the answer will be yes. I will have been there. That's a future conditional. >> I'm going to ask real interesting. Spankies, shenanigans, pub. We will be there from 2 to 630 on Friday. If you're out near Leesburg, we are coming your way. More importantly, if you want us to come to you in our little field trip series on a Friday, hit us up at Grand H. Paul said at Funnydanny, tell us where you think would be fun in your area for us to broadcast and you'll be put on the list and we will start doing our due diligence. >> Yeah, adults will talk. I mean, not us. We'll just pass it to like other people that do stuff. >> Grown ups will have to do. >> Yeah, real adults will be involved. >> Grown up stuff. Danny, am I alone or are you going to walk with me in this argument? I would not aggressively try to fix their problems defensively at this trade deadline. If the perfect opportunity presents itself where I can get a long-term answer as a corner one, let's say, and the values right for whatever reason, I'm not actively avoiding making trades. But I think there is this feeling that people want Adam Peters Lance Newmark in this front office to get aggressive now because they're going to potentially win the division they can make the playoffs rather than waiting until the off season. And while I do think we need to change our eye line and no longer view this as just a year to find out if Jayden Daniels is good in the answer because we now know he's good and probably the answer. There's a lot of football left. The eye line should now be making the playoffs, winning a division. But I'm not going to necessarily shrink the talent pool I'm choosing from to have to go find my corner right now. I'd rather sign one of a dozen corners I like in the off season because the flooded talent pool means I pay a little bit less of a premium. I'd rather consider having the option of drafting a cornerback one at number 23 overall or whatever it might be. But where are you at on this and we'll open up the phones at 800-636-1067. The trade deadline's a couple of weeks away. The thought was they were going to be sellers and they're going to be bad. They're actually good and maybe they could be buyers. Do you think they should be looking to fix one of these fatal flaws or should they just part of the course, play with what they've got, evaluate for the rest of this year while winning as many games as you can and then hit it hard this off. I'm patient Peter. So I echo a lot of what you said. To me, the sweet spot is I want that deal where it's announced the NFL Network or whatever channel you happen to be watching. And then when I'm just at home on my couch in another market, I'll go, that's all it took for that guy. You do that. I'm fine with it. You follow what I'm saying? I'm not giving up a premium pick. There's too much momentum, too much good, too much that could be improved. I understand that seasons are precious and you never know when you'll be this good again. But here's my view. One new corner or a really good pass rusher still doesn't make this a championship caliber team. That's kind of my cold water on it. It makes a better better, though. But again, to what end is what I'm saying. I understand you want all the good experiences and the like, but I'm not going to sacrifice a little bit here. Like when the Nationals are in the middle of their window, like call it 2015 2016 and you go, man, they're a they're a bullpen arm away. You go get the bullpen arm. You don't give a damn about minding like Marty about double a day that hasn't done it yet in the show. Of course, you do you got a championship window open, dude? I don't know that they do yet. And I think that's the part that a lot of fans don't really want to accept and sort of damn the torpedoes will do it next year. To me, there's too much opportunity with more than a hundred million dollars in cap space heading into this offseason. Full lot, I'm going to draft picks and a lot of maneuverability with a pretty good base thing. We now know includes, uh, James Daniels, who was a superstar on the rise. I'm just not going to sacrifice much. That said, if you can get one of those, this guy here is, I'm just making up a name. This guy here is disgruntled, uh, and Steve the cornerback in Jacksonville. They're just willing to part ways because he's got a big salary and he's in his mid to late 20s. You can get him for a fourth round pick. I'll do that, but I'm not going hard. I'm not giving up a first or a second. I might even consider a good corner as a rental that's supposed to be a free agent and throw in a late round pick at a guy because you bring him in. He upgrades you the rest of this season. Maybe he helps your young guys out. Maybe he makes Benjamin St. Juice better. He makes a manual Forbes better. Um, and then even by being in the building, if it is as good as we think it is culturally, if Quinn is the player coach that we all know he is, they might be more inclined to want to come here. You might get a little bit of a discount. If somebody spends the second half of the season here, you're trending up. You make the playoffs. You play in the playoff game or two. Maybe you get them to come back and maybe you could flip a six or something like that for something starting corner. I wonder though, and this is the evaluation I'd need from Peter's or or Newmark, one of the smart guys over there in the front office, but do you think you're doing any kind of long term damage or like a disservice and development to anybody that you're asking to play out of position or to be above their skis? Right now, Benjamin St. Juice is playing as your corner one and was in man yesterday against a speed merchant, not his game, trying to follow him all over the field. I didn't think he played nearly as bad a game as everyone else does, but you've got your fan base memeing him and making jokes about him online and he's getting crushed. I'm assuming that kind of stuff doesn't really add up or catch up to him, but are you stunting his growth or development by basically going, hey, you should be playing the bigger physical like 18 wheeler wide receiver tapes. Not this guy. We don't have a choice. You've got to cover that guy. How about Mikey Sandristo? If you had a better corner in a good situation, he would be inside in the nickel. That's what you drafted him to do. That's what he did at Michigan. That's what he wants to do. He's starting outside playing outside right now out of position where he's his second best position, basically, you know, being baptized in the NFL as he's, you know, learning that spot, basically. Wouldn't you be better off for when he's your nickel next year if he was just getting through some of those lessons getting beaten and getting better and better at nickel? It's like those are the things I would have to consider is it's not just about getting better or winning one or two extra games. It is about the long term growth of the guys that matter and what positions them best. I think I think that's fair. But then my response is okay. What's that worth to you? Like what cost? Yeah, it's not worth the one. It ain't worth the two. It's probably not worth the three. And if you're, you know, we could talk about a four maybe. So I'm not trading anything above a six on a rental for anybody. I would consider a mid-round pick for an excellent corner that's coming in here. That's the long term solution where I'm taking on a big contract in the years ahead. But I would just view that as the free agent I was going to sign this year anyway. Precisely. And it just caused in that that traffic cost me exclusivity, right? This is that they couldn't go anywhere else. I've got them on a contract. If it's someone I would sign in the open market anyhow. I don't really have a problem either way, honestly, because I believe you got to be aggressive. The best gift you have is a quarterback on a rookie contract. So waiting around is not smart. Now, if you're telling me you're waiting till the off season and year two, no problem, because you still have years two through five for Jayden Daniels to win before he gets paid if we're being honest. So that's fine. But I mean, next off season is go time. This whole like, let's be patient. Let's not spend big. Let's just kick the can down the road. You go get your corner. You go get your edge rusher. Whatever it is that you think you need really badly, you go get. And I think they will do that this off season. But you I could be talked into making a trade upgrade right now. I think my preference would be to sit back and let the kids play. This is about our offense being dynamic and this young quarterback I drafted, making sure he's good. Everything else is gravy. And I'm going to play as many of the young guys on defense to evaluate them as possible. And we'll get Joe Witt and Dan Coen to coach their butts off. Yeah, I'm down with that plan. Again, I will not sacrifice my future in any way for a slightly larger short term present. I mean, your point though about about development makes a lot of sense. It's just again, not worth that much to me to have that. I mean, to me, you got to know the player, right? If they're there, I know that's so cliche, but they talked about having the guys that that represent the team name. This is we're looking for this sort of dude. That sort of dude to me isn't going to get his head down because, you know, he's playing out of position or it's a little bit more challenging form. But what's best for Sam Russell's development is probably to play the position he's going to play their flaws got maybe not exposed but accentuated again yesterday. We know where they're not good enough to hang with the big dogs. Should they be looking to address those areas or should they just continue to play this season out and build and develop with the young guys as best they can and then get aggressive this offseason where you add on this Grant and Danny on the fan. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] Danny, the game for Derek Henry's obviously stopped slowly and down as a focus. Was this a game where, I don't know if you needed more from your corners, but kind of exposed them a little bit more because you have more focus up on the run. Yeah, I think you have to, you know, like this is a team that was leading the NFL and running. So going in, you have to do that. I thought earlier in the game, we played the run better. You know, as the game wore down, I thought we wore down some and including into the four minute at the end, they'd go get a stop. So in the first half, I think they ended up with maybe 51 somewhere in that space, which I would have said would probably be somewhere you would have thought. And then at the second half, just like I said, too many, too many shots at him. Dan Quinn on his commanders who fell by seven points, 30 to 23 to the Ravens. They did trail by 14 at one point, 27 to 13 before a Jaden Daniels to Terry McLaurin six yard touchdown early in the fourth quarter. One other thing I'd like to say that I really like about Daniels is that it seems like, and it hasn't happened a lot in the last month, but whenever their backs are against the wall, you're on the road and you go down seven nothing against Cincinnati or Arizona, or just, you know, you've now fallen behind by 14. The other team just did something you got to go answer. Seems like he always answers the bell. Done. I mean, I love that. Because again, it doesn't mean time. It doesn't happen. And there'll be a time that, you know, double adversity happens or something worse. It's football, I mean, it's pro sports. Things go bad, but I am with you. It does feel like every time they get punched and every time it's a, uh, oh, what are we going to do? The response is always as good or better, you know, and, and I wish it was going to quantify that sort of stuff, you know, like I'm sure there's a stat for it somewhere that it's the scoring response percentage or over adjusted or some kind of thing, but it does feel the way, right? Like every time they go down, there's always a response drive and he's always doing something special. 800 6361067 is the number to answer the question we're asking you now. Should the commanders be aggressive in trying to fix their flaws at the trade deadline? Should they make a trade or two to add pieces that could help them on defense? Or would you, as I call it part of the course, just continue to play and develop, see where this year goes, stick to your plan, and then get after it aggressively in the off season, which is where I would be. Let's go to iron and Vienna. What's up, buddy? Grant, you and I disagree vehemently on the NATS rebuilding plan, but on this one, I side more with you. I look at the Houston Texans as a perfect model for what this branch I should do. Garbage organization drafts a quarterback at number two, everything changes. The horizon is so bright. Every mediocre player is somehow now a great player, et cetera. I think this off season, they should be hyper aggressive, like you said, with the rookie contract, adding receivers, adding provol caliber players on offense, defense everywhere. There's no reason I feel to kind of mortgage the future for some short-term game this year, because I think even with picking up better defensive players or maybe a receiver here or there, the ceiling isn't as great as it could be in year two, three, and four of Jane Daniels' kind of rookie contract, which is the window you're trying to maximize. Exactly. So my advice would be to be tied to the trade deadline, be hyper aggressive in the off season, and go at it that way. Yeah, the quicker you add that talent, the faster you can go through whatever gelling process there is, figuring out what you are, getting everyone to come together. But the whole point is you are trying to do it. The clock starts the moment you draft a quarterback. You essentially have five football seasons. If the guy's really good, and it looks like Jane Daniels is, by the time he's getting paid, it's going to be in the cap will be a lot bigger, but he could be making 70 to 75 million dollars a year. And now all of a sudden, you can't spend on anything else and you got to be Superman every week. So the whole point is you got five seasons after this, when four seasons to try to win, for it gets way harder. We basically have one quarterback ever in my homes, who's one, making a big number. And even by today's standards, because of his contract structure, he doesn't make what a lot of guys make in terms of, you know, the percentage of the cap. Talking about Iain's point though, about the window Houston really is the perfect example. I kept saying it's irresponsible to expect them to be Houston with the silver bullet or the lightning strike of quarterback. Well, sorry, they are. This is it. It's the same thing Houston did. A joke of an organization, no longer a joke, just sort of, you know, kept punching and saw what happened. They were under 500 for a while and, you know, won their win and get in game and then ended up winning a playoff game. Unbelievable experience for, for Stroud, who is a bona fide star, and this organization went from a joke again to now someone that's making some noise in the AFC, Washington could be the same with a similar kind of off season, right? Where you don't sacrifice futures for right now, Phillips and Laurel Phillip. I want to squeeze you in. We got the coach at the top of the hour, but he got 30 seconds. What's up? Yo, be aggressive. I mean, they didn't get stuff on Gilmore because they didn't think they were one player away. Now they realize they're a lot closer than what they are. You got the young kid in Carolina, JC Horn. They want to get rid of him for a fourth, a fifth from thick. Go get the guy. I mean, we don't have any corners. Go to do it now. So someone like JC Horn, who's good and young and ascending if he's available, because the team's doing a full on sell off or goes isn't fitting in the locker room or something. I would absolutely do diligence on that. I make calls and talk to agents and do whatever I'm legally allowed to do. And some of the stuff maybe I'm not behind the scenes to try to figure out, like, is this someone I want in my building that I can have at the right price? Because young ascending talent is the name of the game. Jay Gruden on Jaden Daniels performance yesterday, the commanders through six games at four and two. We can also spin around the NFL with him after what was a great Sunday of football and preview Monday night football with Jay. That's next on the fan. a a a [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] Live all over DC on 106-7, a fan and enrichment on AM910, FM-1051. It is a Monday after the commanders lost in Baltimore 30 to 23 at the hands of the Ravens. They are still 4-2 in first place, and it's time to talk to former head coach here in DC, Jay Gruden about these commanders. >> On air and on the road, Jay Gruden is driven by the Ted Bird Automotive group. Ted Bird Ford and Chantilly and Fairfax are F-150 headquarters. Ted Bird Chantilly, Lincoln and Ted Bird Chevrolet and Sterling home of Ted Bird for lifetime vehicle coverage, see and shop them all at Ted Bird.com. >> Jay, I wanna start with Jaden Daniels, who in his second ever loss at quarterback. If we're playing that game, I thought acquitted himself really, really well yesterday. He was mostly kept in the pocket, they weren't able to run the ball, he had to do more with his arm. And it seemed to me like he passed the test, but you've watched the film, you've studied the performance, what did you think of Daniels? >> Yeah, I agree with you, he played well, obviously they didn't get the win, but he did have no running game to help him out a lot. They played from behind, which, if you had a concern or something he hasn't really done yet, is played from behind, they got to be pretty good by Tampa week one. But they played with the lead, the last four in their win streak. And hadn't had to play from behind against a pretty good defense from Baltimore, a front anyway, and he did good. I mean, Baltimore scored about 14, Jay took him right down to cut at the seven. Baltimore went down to Kipfield, go make it 10, he took him down to Kipfield, go make it seven. So I thought he was competitive, he's accurate, missed a couple throws, but for the most part, I thought he did good. >> Yeah, the ones that he missed, if you remember off top of your head, Jay, go into those where, what did you see, what did he see, and kind of what were some of the ones where he went? Ooh, he probably wants that one back. >> Yeah, the one on third down, he's trying to make a play, and he just overthrew what down the ground where he bounced off the safety's face. He's almost under something. That would just sail on him, he's throwing on a move, that's a tough throw against your body, he gets the grain and trying to throw a guy across the field. That's one he probably wouldn't throw for his first down, but since his third downer, he probably just tried to force it. I mean, he missed a couple other ones, which, you know, he had bubbles batted down, but nothing is really fundamentally wrong with him, he's an accurate passer, he's 24 for 35 for God's takes and played pretty well. >> It seemed to me like the Ravens did a better job keeping him in the pocket. I noticed in house a couple of times where they had Rokwan Smith legit spy him on some third downs, I don't know how often they did that over the course of the whole game, but what was their plan? Because it did seem to work in terms of mitigating him as a runner. He had three design runs for all of three yards, and then otherwise had three scrambles for a total of 19. >> Yeah, they did a good job keeping them in the pocket like you mentioned, and the most important thing was stopping the run game, which, you know, without Brian Robinson Jr., I think that had a little bit of an impact because you don't want to overload Austin that player and give him the ball 25 times a game. My Baltimore came into the game, folded teams under 60 yards rushing the game, so we knew that was going to be an issue. But for the most part, I think Baltimore's plan is to play the way they normally play. They get their safeties involved, they have two very good safeties, and they got them, I Hamilton was involved in a lot of the run support issues, and then in the passing game, keep them in the pocket and play good tight man coverage. Get on the receivers, and that's probably the only issue offensively right now. You're concerned about somebody outside of Terry gets some separation on a consistent basis when you're playing against a good defense with a formidable pass rush. >> Yeah, Jay, you mentioned not having Brian Robinson. What's the real tangible effect in terms of what Kingsbury can call, and maybe what it might do to a defense, then I'd have to worry about Robinson. >> Yeah, I think some of his inside zones, he's probably more unlikely to call. He's still called a couple of them, but they have a couple of good run concepts. They did a couple of good zone read concepts that I liked, where Jay could have kept one of them, might have been a thing, a 40-yard game. But for the most part, I just think sticking with the run, like they had in their four-game winning streak, they did such a good job against the Giants and Cincinnati and Arizona and Cleveland. I just think he probably got away from it a little bit more and went to the passing game for a couple of reasons. One, they didn't have Brian, and two, they were behind a little bit and felt like they had to match score for Swarth Baltimore. >> Yeah, I think Chase in the game, probably a factor in that as Jay points out as well. Jay Gruden, former head coach here in DC on Grant and Danny. I wanted to ask you about the lack of forget commitment, even attempt to run. And I'm not complaining as much as observing. I'd always prefer to make the short passing work as the running game. But like that has been the MO this year, and I know they didn't have B-Rob. Like early on, Echler ends up 9 for 21. Two of his first three or so carries were downhill at a gun for five or six yards. It's not like they got nothing in the early going, but they just, they didn't really try to, I didn't think. I was interested in why that was. I mean, what do you think led to that in terms of what Baltimore was giving them? >> I think it could have been game planning because both poor had played, you know, pretty good run defense. You know, they stuffed Dallas's running game for the most part. They Buffalo couldn't get a yard with Cook and Cincinnati, they kind of threw the ball all over the yard. When you see Cincinnati, obviously they have Joe Burrow and Diego's and Jamar Chase, they threw the ball all over the yard going into the game. Hey, we could throw the ball against these corners. We got to get out for these corners. And I think that's the game plan for most teams facing the ravens right now. If they have a weakness on their team, it's their back end, their corners. And I think they just felt like they got the matchups they wanted with the corners. It's not trying to run that Rokwan on this big defensive line. Let's try to get after the corners. That's the weakness of their defense. And I have no problem with that. >> Jay, big picture here for Washington. And this office is, by the way, they're way better than I thought they would be. Just kind of coming into this thing. So I was wrong. Front office was right, et cetera. But in a game like that, it felt to me like they maybe could have used one more good playmaker at the receiver spot opposite McClorne. I know some stuff was schemed up and, you know, Zacchaeus dropped one of those past, I think it was a third down pass. Might have been a first down, but it felt to me like they could have used one more like stud on the opposite sides that Baltimore, you know, might have to pay a little bit. What are your thoughts there? >> Yeah, I agree with you. I think that was my concern about the offense coming into this year. It was somebody else other than Terry that can do some serious damage. And then their four game winning streak, they had different guys step up. And Jayden was spreading the ball around the different guys. Yeah, I mean, Brown had some plays. No, Brown had some plays. Zacchaeus made some plays. But I just feel like when it comes to push a shove, if Terry is getting guarded by the best corner in the league, there's some good corners out there that he's going to have to face. If he gets shut down a little bit, somebody else has to step up and I'm still not confident. And one of those other guys stepped him up. Maybe it's going to be Zacchaeus through the tight end. Maybe Frost and that go through the backfield. So they have different ways to do it, but I am a little bit concerned with the other receivers. >> Jay Gruden on Grant and Danny every Monday at five o'clock, the breakdown, the commander's game. The unfortunate news today for Washington, and it's not like they've got a lot of wiggle room, defensively with personnel, because it's been a bad defensive year as it is. John Allen has been lost for the season, it sounds like he's going to get another opinion, but the fear is he tore his peck and he has done for the year. How damaging is that? And what are they going to have to do to overcome not having one of their better players on defense? >> It's damaging because of the rotations and Jonathan has been coming out. They've had a really good rotation on their front, keeping those guys fresh. Now all of a sudden your backup is your starter. Now who's going to be the backup for that guy's rotation? That's where the issue comes in. Depth is critical on the defensive line. You love to have down on play, pain play most of the time, but they get tired. So they have to come out when Derek Henry's pounding a ball. You know, the guys are running the ball and they're out on a field a long time. You got to have a great rotation. And when you lose a guy, it damages your rotation. >> Jay, you were here, obviously, and there were times where the defense wasn't maybe as strong as the offense. I think that might be fair to say, right? You went through that? >> Yeah, I'd say so. >> Yeah, I would say so too. What do you tell the defensive coaches in these kinds where it's obvious that anybody knows it's personnel and it's maybe it's something that's different. >> When you are the defensive coach in the defense case. >> But I guess the question is philosophically, what would it be? To me, and I want you to take and then I just want you to know what kind of conversations you'd had with the defensive minds, but I would go, just try to turn them over. You can't stop them anyway. The sooner we get the ball back, the sooner I can get back to work. That's kind of where I'm at with this defense and how much fun this offense is. But what kind of combos would you have with the defensive staff when they were nowhere near pulling their weight? >> Well, you got to do a good job of scheming up some stuff. And then you got to have great effort. You got to out effort them every week. And I think that's where Dan Gwen's coming from. He expects extreme effort. And if he doesn't get extreme effort with that group, they're going to get crushed. But if they play hard, like you say, you can get a couple of hands on the ball maybe for some turnover. They did pull both more to three field goals and a punt and got a pick. So they had five stops technically, if you count field goals as a stop. So they did some decent things on defense, but you're right. They are out, man. So when you are out, man, you got to play a great, great energy. And then you have to have some schematic blitzes that get home and try to get some sacks. >> It felt to me, like in the first half, they said, we will not let Derek Henry get going. And he ran the ball nine times for 38 yards with like a 12. They did a really good job in him on him. But Zae Flowers went for a career day and one half. Half time Zae Flowers had nine targets, nine catches, 132. And then the second half, they pretty much said, okay, we can't let Zae Flowers do that. He didn't get another catch. But then Derek Henry went 15 for 94. So I don't know what the answer is, but in that situation where a team kind of loads up, you beat them over the top, then they play a little better in the back end. You just take what's there and you run the ball. What could they have done? What was the adjustment that maybe you look at and you go, man, I wish Joe Whit would have tried this. >> Well, they put 28 on Dallas, 35 on Buffalo, 41 on Cincinnati. So these are good coaches as well. McDermott's a good coach at Buffalo. Obviously Cincinnati's coordinator is a good dollar for Zimmer. I mean, so they're doing it to everybody. And if you really flip the coin, I think eventually Washington is going to have give people the same problems. You load up the box to stop the run and make sure you get an extra guy in there for Jayden's ability to run. And when you get B-Rob back, now you're going to have McClellan one-on-one all over the place. And that's what happened for Baltimore. I mean, count of single safety for Coach Quinn there in the first half and Baltimore took advantage of it. They were running in-breaking routes, crossing routes. Then they got Andrews involved, Beighton got involved in the second half, likely had a big catch. So it's pick your poison. What do you want to call? Do you want to play a light box to stop the passing game? Make sure Zae Flowers doesn't perch you. Then all of a sudden, Derek Henry and Lamaro just torturing you. Or do you want to play a loaded box and try to get some extra people in there to stop Lamaro? And then you leave your corners in jeopardy. So it's pick your poison. Nobody's been able to figure it out yet. But eventually I think the commanders give people the same type of issue. You want to load the box up and stop Washington's run game and leave Terry McClellan out there? Or do you want to have hands on Terry and let Beckler and B-Rob kick your ass? Jake Grid with us here on GND. So as a play caller, knowing that they've got a pretty good recipe, where they were moving the football, this week's point total, not the same. But I still think you wouldn't say the offense was a failure-briny stretch. How much of this, again, is this is what we do well and let's see if it works the next week versus, well, I've got some new wrinkles I can add in. What's that balance, Jay? Someone that's calling plays and designing offense? Well, I think you do what you do. You've got to make sure you stick with what your identity is. And through the first five, six weeks, I think Washington, that they're actually a run first team. And then that opens up the play action past huge for Jayden and his ability to run. And then obviously the drop-back game will come with it. So you'll add some more wrinkles depending on the coverage you're playing at Carolina. You'll see Carolina. You'll see what Atlanta did. Maybe you come up with an idea or two and try to throw them in there. But you've got to still realize Jayden is young. You don't want to overload his plate. You want to make sure he's very comfortable with whatever plays you put in. You're up to hell out of them. But you still want to make sure you're up on the things he's been good at. One of the things we've been talking about on the show today within the last hour is how aggressively should they try to fix some of their flaws in season? What do you think they should do? This was supposed to have been a building year, but they're obviously ahead of schedule and they've got an outstanding chance to win the NFC East. Should they try to go get a corner, you know, ahead of the Halloween deadline or a pass rusher or, you know, whatever they feel like could put them in a much better spot? Or should they just play this thing out? Part of the course, stay ahead of schedule and wait till the off season and get over aggressive. I'm on the phone right now trying to find another corner. Maybe another defense alignment, especially now that Jonathan's out for the year. You got to add to the depth. So they're going to have to add somebody whether or not they can get somebody via trade or not. I do not know, but I would definitely be on the phone and check them out every opportunity I could to upgrade my depth on the defensive line, get another possible cover corner in there because if you don't, then you have to play cover twos and all that stuff, then you're going to put your defensive front and jeopardy and they're not good enough up front to stop. So they got to do something, hopefully they can, but if not, they want to go with the guys they got. Like I said before, they got played great effort. And like Danny said, we got to figure out ways to get turnovers. What would one good player, I don't think would fix everything here on this defense, right? I mean, like it's not as if well, Micah Parsons or some, or I don't know, Miles Garrett's available, presumably right to transform everything, like an upgraded one spot. Would that do the trick here, Jade? To me, there are a few different changes that have to make away, right? Yeah, there's, there's a couple. We need another defensive end. Another defensive end to get some pressure and stop playing the run a little bit better and obviously probably another linebacker for some depth back there and obviously corner and maybe safety. Yeah, they're playing their ass off, man. You got to give them a hell of a lot of credit. Coach Gwyndo is a great job coaching the scheme, but also coaching effort and people buy in. So that's, that's half the battle right there. The other half, we got to get the players in here and upgrade a couple spots. All right, let's go round the horn. Some other NFL things with Jay Gruden joins us every Monday right here at five o'clock. Some of the other big storylines and games in the national football league. You told us Kayla Williams would be just fine. You didn't like some of how Shane Waldron was running that offense. It seems like something's clicking. They've gotten their acts together. They've won three in a row. Williams has played very well. A career high four touchdown passes against the Jaguars as they hung 35 in London. What'd you make of his game? He's doing a lot better. He's making plays within the pocket. He's not moving around his feet or calming down just a little bit. That's going to get better and better. The more confident he feels in the scheme and what they're trying to do and what defenses are trying to attack where. So yeah, he's been impressive. His ability to get better and better throughout the season so far has been good. He's got to keep it up though. The NFC North is really, really good. I mean, I think it's the best division of football in Chicago's 4-2, Green Bay's 4-2, Detroit's 4-1, Minnesota's 5-0. So they got a tough test coming up every week and these guys continue to get better. Stay the course. Would you make a Dallas getting absolutely destroyed in a non-competitive fashioner at home to a good Detroit team? They've just got smashed in the mouth and it's been a recurring deal. New Orleans did the same thing. Green Bay did the same thing to them in the playoff game. They can't stop the run. They're not physical enough up front. You think Washington has problems up front. Go look at the Detroit or Dallas's roster. They have little linebackers and little defensive linemen and they're just getting bludgeoned to death and that's a problem. They can't stop the run. They can't stop the pass. They're at first and second down. Second and two every play. They're never in third down, which is what Zimmer's specialty is. It's a third down lift package, but he can't get to it because they're always behind or they're always in first and 10. Would you make of Drake May's debut for the New England Patriots? They got beat pretty good by the Texans. Yeah, you know, he made a couple good throws what you like to see. Just want to have something coming out of the game. Say, all right, we got somebody here. We got something to work with. And I think he did that. He is a little wild. He's a little erratic with his accuracy from time to time, but the competitiveness and how we play the game, how we manage a game, break them a whole snap count, making a couple key throws in key situations with something to build on. I think he'll get better or better, but it'll take some time for him to show the progress that Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams have shown so far in the first couple of weeks. So might be a little bit touchy here, but there's a situation in Cleveland, Jay, where there's a lot of money being paid to the quarterback and and and somebody wants him to play. He's terrible. They're bad because of it. What would you do as the head coach in this in this situation? You know, how do you how do you handle that when it seems like maybe there's an edict from on high? Nobody said anything, but man, is it ugly and awkward and that roster is not that terrible. They're not as bad as their, their record is except they are because the quarterback stinks. Not giving them a chance every week. How would you handle? What would you do? Yeah, the quarterback's bad. They're they're off. That's why it is a very good either. They're they have issues receiving for other mari Cooper's not very good. Joku's finally back and doing some different things, but yeah, you're right. I think at some point, you're one in five for God's sake. Something's got to change. They got to make a change in a critical position and and players can see it. They can see the film. He's missing throws and he's running into sacks and he's struggling mightily. I think they got to take a look at James Winston, at least for a game. See how he does. Maybe go back to, you know, maybe go back to Watson later, but you got to give Winston a chance to turn a season around because they're losing it quickly and they're losing the players are losing the locker room because of it. How the boxing 50 on the Saints looks like four tuddies from Baker Mayfield. That game was on while I was in in a Baltimore for Washington and the Ravens, but it seemed like they got up by a million. Then the Saints came back and took the lead. Then the box still won by a million. What a weird game. It was weird. I was watching that quite closely right next to the Raven game and the Commander game and it was it was a crazy game. New Orleans got a punt return and they got three picks in the first half. I believe it was and took the lead and then and then some of the worst tackling I've ever seen in NFL history. They threw a little dump off to the running back of your hand for 50 yard touchdown. They threw a little dump off, checked down to God. When he broke six tackles for touchdown, it was it was absolutely horrific. If you're a defensive saint, defensive coach or a player on defensive, there's going to be a tough Monday for you when you watch that tape. Falcons rolled over the Panthers, Washington's opponent next week. What have you seen from Atlanta so far? It was a weird start, but you look up there, four and two right there with Tampa and that division in Carolina looks like they progressed to the mean a little bit, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Carolina just underman quite a bit. They have a lot of holes right now defensively, offensively. Andy's trying to do as best he can, but they just they just can't overcome a horrific defense and they're not good at Atlanta stuff. You know, you add a quarterback like Kirk to a team with some good weapons. They have two outstanding backs. I'm everybody talks about Beijon, but this Algier guy is a monster and they're running the football very well, which when you can run the ball and you got Kirk causes your quarterback, look out because he is the master of the play action game and they're good football team and their defensive getting better. Steelers Raiders was pretty lopsided. Pittsburgh's four and two Justin Fields was, you know, meh as a passer, but made enough plays running the ball and they were dominant defensively. What would you do if you're Mike Tomlin at quarterback? Now you've won two thirds of your game. So I guess maybe you just roll with fields, but Wilson's healthy. What's your thought there? Yeah, I just roll with them. They're foreign too. So yeah, I have to roll with them. You know, you keep them ready. Keep Russell ready if something happens to the field field younger player and he does the same things as Russell really, except he's more athletic. So I don't really see the upside in paying Russell Wilson other than his experience. But his last two or three years that he's played, the last year he played at Seattle and his last two at Denver. It wasn't very good now. It's not like we're putting in a guy that was coming off a Super Bowl loss in Seattle or winning Seattle. It's not the same guy in my opinion. So I would roll with fields right now. And he turns the ball over and puts their team at risk because of his turnovers. And I'd go to Russell, but right now field was playing pretty good. Similar situation, I guess a different enough though, in Indy, right, where they drafted a project. Anthony Richardson is a project. He was raw. Everyone kind of knew that. But right now this minute, I know he's been hurt a little bit. So he's missed some time. So it's been the decision easier. But they're better right now with Flacco than they would be with Richardson. But the ceiling long term with Richardson, we would somewhat argue is higher or at least worth experimenting with. How would you handle that as a coach where obviously those guys don't care about five years from now, three years from now, they want to win right now. And maybe as a coach, that's what you feel like too. How would you handle that situation? Production matters. And they weren't producing that much with Anthony as a starter. And he's young. He's going to get better. But when you put in a veteran guy like Flacco, he's, he's getting the ball to pit me to get a ball of downs. They got a decent running game on how Taylor got hurt. But he's still hurt. But they got a sermon. He's doing okay. But you got to, you got to play with the hot hand. And then Richardson, this is a great learning experience. He's young. He's, he only had four starts last year. He only played one year at Florida. He needs time to develop. He needs time in the cooker. So this is a great chance for him to learn from Flacco. And when he does come back healthy, maybe you have a package of plays for him to get him in the game for a series or so and do some of the quarterback design stuff and plaques and things that he's really good at. But for the meantime, you got to ride with the hot hand because you're right back in the division race in the NFC South. Jay, let's go on this one here. A Bill's Jets, Monday night football, first place game, Jets debuting a brand new coaching staff with a head coach and Jeff Ulbrick. And they've elevated now as a defensive coordinating role as well. So how do you see Bill's Jets going tonight? It's going to be a weird one to watch. You never know how a new coordinator, he can't change the whole offense in a week. That's for sure. So let me have a lot of similar concepts. But mainly it's going to be Aaron Rodgers show. He's going to have a lot of input in the offense and what he likes. He's going to try to get the ball to Garrett Wilson as much as he can. But Buffalo doesn't give up a lot of big plays defensively. I think it's going to be a tight game. It's going to be a lot of runs, a low scoring game. And then the team that doesn't turn the ball over a win. And I think Josh Allen will probably make some plays with his legs. He'll be proved the difference. Jay, thank you as always, man. Talk to you next week. You got to thank you guys. Always good to have Jay Gruden on Grant and Danny here on the fan. Great information on the commanders and some good intel on some of the other games yesterday from around the NFL. You heard what he thought of Jayden Daniels. We've now seen six games from the rookie quarterback. He has played right at 35% of his rookie season. Let's take inventory on how we're feeling about the Heisman Trophy winner last year at LSU. Next on the fan. [BLANK_AUDIO] He blips as you throw it here if he pops up. Give it to him. It is to the end zone. It is caught. Touchdown. The timing was to perfection. McClellan with the grab. Tell him, Jim Nance, tough one for the commanders. 3023 loss in Baltimore. Yesterday, we're Grant and Danny on the fan. We are excited for the start of the season like you are. However, we know that some folks around us may have lost a friend or family member recently as the exclusive sponsor of our show, the law firm Condori and Murad can guide you through the difficult probate administration process. They will help bring clarity and closure to a loved one's estate. Schedule a free consultation with their probate and estate planning attorney today. Visit kmloyers.com. Be sure to tell them Grant and Danny sent you. That's kmloyers.com. I actually want to play a quick game. I'll make it very, very short. Okay. We've got a lot to get into, including our thoughts on Jaden Daniels through six games. I think there are two types of people on the planet. There are people who find out that a player broke their leg and have to go find the video and watch it. And then there are people that want absolutely nothing to do with that and find it grotesque. And I'm going to correctly predict right now, which of the three of you has already seen the clip of the Aiden Hutchinson broken leg. Okay. Okay. I would let you to know that while, by the way, thinking about Aiden Hutchinson, what a gruesome awful injury. Yep. Great player. Such a bomber, terrible situation. I absolutely went and watched that clip. I heard that it was disgusting and it happened and I'm guilty of whatever that is. I had to find it and look at it and see. Oh my god. And like yell audibly. You actively sought the video out. I did. I went to Twitter and I searched Aiden Hutchinson injury. And then I watched the clip. So that's the, that's me. Danny, you would never do that. You are team. Don't show me that. I would make a rule that you could never show it. So all the, all the, the more bid. Let's see the traffic accident people like yourself would, would be deprived of it. I accidentally saw it. Like I'm scrolling through. Of course. And it's just the next thing where it's like, somebody has like the tiniest warning, like, turn away. If you're disgusted. And like I was like, wait, what, why? Oh my god. Grew some horrible awful wish I could unsee it. So I don't think they should show replays like that on television. Let me be clear about that. I do think though, okay, that while not showing it is better and everything, give me the option. Like this idea that nobody like you shouldn't post that clip Fox or whoever. Maybe I'm glad somebody does because I should have the option to be able to see. And they do their warning usually. Exactly. I mean, it's not like, like, if it's really personal and intrusive and tragic, I don't need to know what's happening in Aiden Hutchinson's life. But it happened on a football field. It's an injury. I'm going to go watch it. But I'm one for one, Danny. Oh, he was not seek that out. Every million years. Darrus, you would absolutely not seek that out. That'd be correct. I would not seek that out. I'm not really into the gruesome injury thing. Unfortunately, like Danny, I scrolled and it came up and it was one of those things where, oh, there it is. I just saw it. I wish I didn't see it. You wouldn't have seen it. Correct. Yeah. But I don't actively seek out the Kevin Ware injury. I don't seek out the Paul Pierce injury. Paul Pierce. Yeah. Wait, not Paul Pierce. It's not Paul George. There we go. Back on that ball. The injury is where part of the limb is just dangling is like the worst thing. It's so gross. I was in my basement and I saw the clip when I looked it up. And then I said to my wife, I said, can I show it to you? And she said, why would you even ask that you know me? And she was like, so upset at me. She's still mad that I showed her a picture of like, Alex Smith post surgery that was on the internet. That was the grossest thing anyone's ever seen. She's still mad at me about that. Yeah. But her brother, who was in the basement with us, who had just gotten back from the game, goes, oh, let me see it. And I showed it to him. He had two types of people. Ryan, you definitely saw it out like me and you watched it multiple times. And not only did Ryan seek it out, but he like laughed weirdly. I don't think he laughed into it because he's a lion's guy. I do think he was like eating while he watched it. And he's like, Oh, and he like took another bite. That's ridiculous. No, I did not laugh for anything like that. But I did seek it. I searched it myself. I was watching the game, but I did not actually see the replay because I miss it or didn't see exactly what was wrong if it was a knee injury. But then I went on Twitter and it was not a knee injury. It was an ankle injury. And it was really bad. What did you type in? I can probably look it up right now, but likely eight in Hutchinson. I just did a hundred Hutchinson injury. In fairness, I had no idea that it was what it was. I didn't know it was a broken leg like Alex Smith style. They just kept saying lower leg injury. Both teams came out and I was like, Oh, it's bad. I figured it would be like non contact or just grabs it as like, I had no idea what I was getting into when I searched that injury. If that helps you guys to think that I'm more of a human being. Well, it doesn't. And the way it happened is just freakish. Like he just whiplashed around somebody else's leg. That should not be able to happen. Your leg should not be able to essentially. I know that it's not just bumping into another person. Like, Oh, that's a bruise. I don't think it graphic, but just like leg shouldn't wrap around things. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know how that happened. I guarantee you Ryan sent a text with the words, Hey, dude, look at this to somebody with that video to the gross group text. Yeah. No, I did not do that. I was I'm a lion's fan. They're my second team at this point. But still, I was, I would not do that. Lions, Yankees, college football team, all of a sudden is like, Texas. Who's who's in the top five? It's a lot of Notre Dame. Big Longhorns guy. Hook them, Larry. Hook them. Let's go. Who's behind you at the front of that line? When yours is back. Anyway, I think I was three for three in that exercise. You were? Yeah. Easy. Yeah. You're right. Not, not that it's the most difficult plane, the land of all time. I got a pretty big runway to help me. But yeah, three for three. We'll take what there's one of the three guys that laughs at injuries or laughs at like misfortune to people and then two other people are squamish. What did you think of Jaden Daniels? We've talked about yesterday. Where are you at on him now through six games? We have the thing. Like, this is all I kept saying. I said at the this morning with the junks. I've been telling friends this. I tell, you know, any kind of conversation where the win lose in an individual week at the stage of this build. I'm not as concerned. The thing that I've wanted my entire life, we had it once to some degree with Griffin, where everybody's jealous and everyone's, you know, he's on every highlight. It's that plus a, to me, a better skill set. No need to run a Robert down from 12 years later. But Daniels is just more. There's just more to it. There's more. If you take this away, I've got that. We have one of the guys that 2728 other teams would go, yes, I'll have that. I'll take it right now. This instant. What's the price? And they'd pay it. And there's no reason for us to give it up. That to me is what it feels like. And I'm so scared of an injury. I'm so scared of, you know, having the rug pulled like it happened before. But right now it feels like they nailed it. And the most important thing in sports they've got. He's playing at a top 10 quarterbacking level easily as a rookie through six games right now. And I just feel like yesterday was the best opportunity I've had to really get to watch and evaluate him passing the football from the pocket because it was not a run the ball festival where he was benefiting from second and medium and third and short. There were obvious passing downs. It was his right arm or bust and time and time again from the pocket, he made the right reads. He made the right decisions. He got the ball out accurately. It was just a well executed, effective and efficient passing game. And he was proficient not because he could run three design runs for three yards, three scrambles for like 19, not because they ran the ball. They couldn't at all. Echler wasn't overly effective. Mc Nichols was pretty much uninvolved. Robinson was sitting in a press box somewhere inactive or standing on the sideline. This was you got to throw it, Jaden. And then they kept him in the pocket. They spied him with Rokwan Smith. They did some really smart things defensively to take away the design running stuff. And he still made huge throws one after another, including the middle of the field throw to Zach Hertz, where he rolls to his right. We talked about he just kind of subtly moves after changing the protection to his left 24 yard completion. I loved the in breaker from under center play action drop, driving a ball to Terry McClellan in the middle of the field. That was NFL, just big league pocket pass or stuff. And he did it. And then he was smart. Again, he just proved to be really, really smart Danny, throwing the ball at Echler's feet to stop the clock with 16 seconds left in the half, purposefully taking an incompletion. He just seems to be so mature and ahead of his years. It's hard not to be really, really excited about him. Yeah. And it's not just locking in on one guy. It's not just, okay, I'm on force feeding McLaurin. It's the, you know, the one time McCaffrey has a little bit of leverage and he darts it in there. He makes a play close to the goal line. It's, you know, it's Jeremy Brown. I guess that was a tunnel screen. Maybe no Brown is a better example where it's not just force feeding somebody. It's not like the security blanket, right? It's not like, okay, I've got a tight end that I like. So I'm just going to just, you know, feed Zach hurts. It's like, wherever the place was to go, wherever the option is, that's where the ball goes. And I know that sounds, you know, rudimentary, but it isn't speaking of receivers randomly catching passes. Luke McCaffrey caught a ball down on the goal line, almost scored his first touch. Almost we almost had to eat some chocolate lava. That had been a real shame from Chili's today, with all the mode ice cream scoop right there on top, right on top. We almost had to. Luckily, we didn't have to. Maybe next time. Where are you at on Daniels through six games? Is there anything you haven't seen yet that you need to? Is there anything at this point that you are still not sold on? Or are you ready to just change the conversation to you got the quarterback? Now what? GND on the fan? Oh, I'm going to take a look at the game. I'm going to take a look at the game. I'm going to take a look at the game, and I'm going to take a look at the game. I'm going to take a look at the game. I'm going to take a look at the game. I'm going to take a look at the game. I'm going to take a look at the game. A really big part, second in goal from six yards away. Daniel's back in the end zone. Look at it. Lauren has it for the Washington touchdown right over the top of Marcus Williams. One of two hookups for a touchdown between Jaden Daniels and Terry McLorin yesterday. Did you know Terry McLorin already has four touchdowns? That ties his total from one season ago. In fact, he has one touchdown away, Danny, from his highest total since his rookie year in 2019. What didn't you only have five that year that that's his career high, right? No, his rookie year he had seven. It's seven. That was when not to say it was more explosive, but he had about 16 yards a catch a career high hit on a couple of like 75 yard first play of a drive touchdown. They had one of those in fact in week one, his first game ever. Remember against the Eagles who was on the throwing end of that touchdown. His rookie year against the Eagles 75 yard touchdown. Deep post got behind the Eagles into the paint. Is that a Kyle Allen? And it's not a Kyle Allen we're looking for before that. Haskins? This is before Dwayne Haskins. It was actually during Dwayne Haskins as a matter of fact. Alex Smith. No, equally as jaggy. Okay. Case Kingdom. There it is. Case Kingdom. Anyway, so glad we got the name of all those quarterbacks. Gross. The amount of bad quarterbacks Terry McClellan played with that you just rattled off. Pretty great. But he is his next touchdown. We'll give him a tie for the most he's had since 2019. How about that? We're going into week. He's always been he's always been a low touchdown guy. Just I think that's a quarterback thing. Well, it's a quarterback thing. It's a bad offense thing. It's a he doesn't really get behind you all that much anymore. It's like everything is earned. But there's no one I'd rather have have to hang on to the ball and take in a shot, win on a slant, make that catch on the sideline or that catch fall into the ground in the end zone. But he whatever that is, Terry McClellan against the world, I'll take him. The conscientious be right. Make me right. I need you, man. Make the contested catch the best ever. He's got that he's got that thing that I always, you know, scream alone in my living room or wherever happen to be that the ball so precious, the ball so value it so much. Please care about it. Please care about it so much. Now he dropped catch last week that I trust him to make a thousand times out of a thousand. Could have been a touchdown pass for Daniels. We don't care about it because they've they rolled in that game, but that's almost I'm almost like glad that that happened because that's going to be his one. Like that dude security values that ball so much. It's so important. Just go get it, haul it in. Ancient philosopher Joe Witt says ball is life. Ball is life. I'm a ball is life guy myself. That Danny Rojas said that too, I believe. Ted Lasso. That's a good point. Absolutely did. Because the ball is life. Yes, Joe. Yeah, Joe. We appreciate that. You know what else is life getting some stops on defense. The way that we live is not for everybody. Yesterday it wasn't for people that wanted to see you get off the field for the most part. I'll tell you who it is for. It's for Zayflowers having fantasy days. The way you live is for Zayflowers and Mark Andrews. For 40 yards of total ovens for Lamar Jackson. I shouldn't poke fun because it's really not your fault. I actually really like you. But the way you live yesterday was for the Ravens climbing the offensive standings and rankings. Because we're going to run and put our bodies on people in a violent manner. That's really interesting. Chasing them down from behind. In fairness, Jeremy Chin did do that on the final play of the game out of bounds when Lamar Jackson had put the game on ice. Because the ball is life. Thank you. Let's go to Jonathan and Alexandria on GND. What's up, Jonathan? Hey, fellas. Thanks so much for taking my call. Got it, dude. Yeah, so it's hard not to compare him to Griffin. Again, you were hitting on this a little bit before. I feel like the biggest difference that I've seen, like the playmaking ability, anybody could call in and talk about that. The poise and the lack of his apparent need to play hero ball. I really like that. And listening to him in the media to an answering interview question, I'm just really impressed with his ability to answer questions. He just sounds like a heady guy. And I'm just super excited about him for all those reasons. And yeah, thanks again for taking my call. Appreciate you, dude. There's the thing that's most important to me. There's, well, there's a million. But remember at this stage, Griffin had already been on Jay Leno and it was this personality thing and this quirk and the socks and this and the other thing. This, it felt like somebody that had arrived and was already a superstar. Daniels is a superstar, but yet works as hard now as he did what got him here. Not accusing someone else of lack of work ethic, but there's an application of the, I'm not just doing this for Instagram. I'm not just doing this for the social credit. It's a real deal and I'll take my chances with a guy like that. Yeah, the work habits are just awesome. And I agree with every word of that call. The only thing I would add is his accuracy and ball placement has been what I have liked the most. Since my first day out at training camp, he does, you know, it's one thing I always talk about the difference in baseball between control and command. Those words are used as synonymous and they are not. Control is throwing the ball over the plate for a strike. Command is putting it where you want dotting the strikes on hitting a mint. Jayden Daniels has control in terms of accuracy to the receiver. He also has command in terms of ball placement at the receiver around DBs. And I've really been enamored with that. Next on Grant and Danny, you will hear from Dan Quinn, spoke to the media today, updates on injuries, including what sounds like a season ending peck injury for John Allen. If you're just jumping in your car. Also, don't forget about what's not getting enough mentions today. As far as the commanders lost yesterday, we're Grant and Danny on the fan.