Something you've probably noticed if you’ve been to the pharmacy lately is that they don't always have what you need in stock. You can go in there to pick up a prescription that you take every day and might be told you have to wait days or even weeks before the pharmacy has it in stock again. And frankly, folks, some people don’t have the luxury to wait that long for their medications to be filled.
This is the consequence of supply chain issues and where our medicines are manufactured overseas.
Today, we are excited to have Shawn Rowland, friend, sponsor, and founder of JASE Medical here to talk to us about how to combat the supply chain issues and make sure that we have the medicines our families need when they need them.
Highlights:
- “It’s not just for the US, everybody in the world virtually is in the same line holding this hands out to these drug manufacturers coming out of China and India.” - Shawn Roland
- “The idea is you have this on-hand before you need it. You mentioned going into the pharmacy and having to wait a day or two or a week, when it comes to some of this medications when you’re acutely ill with a bacterial infection, you cant wait that long.” - Shawn Roland
Timestamps:
[00:41] The cause of medicine shortages that we are experiencing
[03:03] How JASE Medical is stepping up in the face of this problem
[06:20] The number one roadblock that’s causing this medical supply chain issue
[07:42] How drug shortages affect healthcare providers’ ability to treat patients effectively
[09:38] All about the JASE Case, how it works, and how it fits your specific medicine needs
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Are we seeing the revitalization of conservative civilization? All over the world has been a massive backlash against globalization, its leftist leadership, and its anti-cultural liberal values. And it's just the beginning. I'm Dr. Steve Turling. I believe the liberal globalist world is at its brink, and a new conservative age is rising. Join me every day as we examine these worldwide trends, discover answers to today's toughest challenges. And together, learn to live in the present in life of even better things to cover. This is Turly Talks. Hey gang, it's me, Dr. Steve, and there's something that you've probably noticed if you've been to the pharmacy of late. They don't always have what you need when you need them. Does this happen to actually just happen to me last month? You go to the pharmacy to pick up a prescription, usually something you need to take every day. But then you're told that you're going to have to wait several days, maybe even weeks before the pharmacy has it in stock. Obviously, some people don't have the luxury to wait that long for their medications to be filled. Now, as I'm sure you guessed, this is the unfortunate consequence of not just supply chain issues, but also the consequence of our globalized over-reliance of medications manufactured overseas. Both of these dynamics are coming together as it were informing a kind of perfect storm when it comes to our prescriptions and delays. The good news is that as the growing parallel economy develops that we track with every single week on this channel, we got patriots who are rising up and standing in the gap here. So today, I am very excited to have as our guest Sean Roland, a friend and sponsor of this channel. He's the founder of Chase Medical, and he's here to talk to us about how to combat the supply chain issues and make sure that we have the medicines our families need when they need them. If you want a little sneak peek of Chase Medical, just click on the link in the down below and check out how you can help your family make sure they have the personal medical supplies they need when you need them. So, Sean, welcome. Great to have you here. Thank you so much. I'm always a privilege and happy to be here. Well, it's awesome to have you. You know, I was just reading. There was a recent biospace article on drug shortages and two things popped out to me in the article. One, I didn't know this. 50% over 50% of drug manufacturing facilities that the United States relies on are overseas. I knew it was a lot. I didn't know it was more than half. And then secondly, the current list of drug shortages that we're experiencing right now as we speak is huge. We're talking over 300 prescription drugs. I mean, it's crazy. So, talk to us about how Chase Medical is stepping up in the face of this problem. Sure. You know, you referenced that report and I've seen similar reports and I would say based on our own research and some other publications that are out there, those numbers are really low. The truth of the matter is this was back in the '90s. The United States closed our last remaining manufacturing plant that was making generic antibiotics. And it was penicillin at the time. And since that time, basically 100% of our production capacity when it comes to generic medications come from overseas. Now, how much of those generic medications do we consume on a daily basis? Well, it turns out that if a doctor is writing a prescription, there's about a 95% chance that they are writing for a generic medication, meaning of the 95% of the drugs we consume on a daily basis, 100% of them are not produced here in the US. Wow. And so, and then where are they coming from? Well, they're coming mainly from China, really, when you look and dig into that even further, you'll find out that there are other areas of production. India is a big one. If you look at the top generic manufacturers in the world, a number of those are from India, but turns out that at least 65% to 70% of their medications tame their active pharmaceutical ingredients from China. And so, when you look across the board at all the top companies, all roads seemed in one form or another lead back to China. And you hit on, you know, that globalization of the manufacturing of the supply chain being, you know, and only interrupt myself here. It's not just for the US. Everybody in the world, virtually, is in the same line holding their hands out to these drug manufacturers coming out of China and India. And so, this is not just a problem that is exclusive to us, and we're in line with the rest of the world. So, you know, what is the cause here? Why is this happening? Certainly, you can point to this, you know, having this dependence on these manufacturing plants in places like China not having enough transparency in the industry when it comes to the FDA actually overseeing these things and making, you know, they don't, unfortunately, the FDA themselves don't know what is the production capacity of any given factory in China. Where do they actually get their ingredients from? And I can go down a list there, but at the end of the day, it's not transparent, not just to us, but even to the regulatory agencies that we've empowered to tell us that these medications are safe and to track these things like the shortages you brought up, 300 on that list. It's growing every day. We've never seen numbers like this. Compound all of that with things like cyber attacks. You know, we just experienced one a couple of weeks ago that was a hugely disruptive, directly targeted ability of pharmacies to fill prescriptions. And it's just, there's no shortage of potential issues to get between when a matter of fact, when a medication's, you know, produced and gets to, and gets to your, into your hands. Is there a particular issue that's causing sort of the roadblock in the medical supply chain issue right now? Yeah, I think it, I think it's multifaceted. And so there are multiple issues that are doing it. If you wanted to try and highlight what is maybe the one having the biggest impact, I would say it is, it is the foreign production here because we lose so much control. And again, back to that transparency, we just don't know. When, for example, that shortage list that the FDA maintains, nine times out of 10, if you go there, look at a particular medication, the manufacturer will say, hey, we can't necessarily tell you why this is in short supply, nor can we tell you when we expect it to be back up to normal levels. I mean, there's just no, there's no requirement for reporting. There's no requirement to be transparent. And so, so how can we plan for these things? So that, that is, that's a big one. You know, the other one would be things like just any normal disruption when it comes to natural disasters, these geopolitical tensions. There's a lot of, there's a lot that happens from A to Z when a medication's produced to, to getting into your, to your hands. But that would probably be the biggest one that I would highlight. And how do drug shortages, how do they affect the way health care providers treat patients effectively? I mean, obviously there, it's got to have some kind of effect on doctors and, and how they're approaching treatment. Absolutely, you know, and those are the tragic stories that, and you can read about them. They're well, they've been well documented. They've been talking cancer doctors who are having to just literally decide they only have so much of this medication. They've got two patients, maybe one's an older 80 year old woman with blood with lung cancer and one's a, maybe a young kiddo with some other form of cancer and they're having to decide which of these two am I going to give the medication to? Which one's going to live and which one's going to die? And there's those kinds of stories are out there and have been out there for some time. I myself personally have experienced it. It's why I formed J.S. medical working in a community hospital. This was a number of years ago when this, we hadn't gotten to this point, but even then we were told at the time that we had limited access to one of our most important injectable antibiotics in the hospital. And at the time it struck me as just, this is pre COVID. This is before shortages were even a thing, you know, and so at the time, just really I stopped in my tracks. What is going on? I'm in a top tier healthcare system in the, in the world and I can't get this basic medication for my patients. What is going on? And that's what led to all this research to finding out where meds come from and what the true cost is behind all this and, and ultimately forms J.S. medical as a result. It's so interesting because we've had a number of guests on before talking about the importance of preparedness of literally prepping. But as you know, I mean, it's always right food, water, basic necessities, and so forth. And what I love so much about J.S. medical is that you're reminding us that we've got to have our medicines, our prescriptions prepped as well. For a lot of us, that is a life and death issue. And that's where you have something called J.S. case comes in, which I thought was really cool. Yeah. Yeah, I could just flesh that one out for us. Sure. So, you know, kind of into the back to those origins when realizing this is a thing, and how can I as a family physician in anywhere USA, how can I make an impact in what is a global problem and what is something that at the end of the day is a life or death problem? These are big problems. So what can I do? So ultimately, what we leveraging telemedicine, leveraging some combining of some smart minds to say, okay, if you needed a certain number of medications, if all of a sudden you're cut off from healthcare and from your access to pharmacy to a doctor, what are some of the most basic things that you would need to be safe, to be able to cover, you know, whether it was diarrhea, pneumonia, infected cuts, a UTI, a bite from a dog or a wild animal, any of these possible scenarios. And so we came up with the J.S. case, and that is initially, it was five antibiotics would cover things like what I just mentioned, as well as things like proter, anthrax attacks, tularemia, plague are all covered in this J.S. case. Since that time, we've added on where people can come on and add on about 33, 34 additional medications that are also, you know, important and to be used in emergencies. And the idea is that you have this on hand before you need it. Because by the time you need, you mentioned going to the pharmacy and having to wait a day or two or three or a week. When it comes to some of these medications, when you're acutely ill with a bacterial infection, you can't wait that long. Even a day can have serious consequences. So having this on hand before you need it, the same way as you have your Tylenol and you have your Ibuprofen and your medicine cabinet is the game changer here, and it's what we're out here to tell people. You can do this. It's prescribed by a doctor. It's dispensed by a licensed pharmacy in the U.S. and we add support and education to make sure that it's done safely. That's so interesting because we are in the age of the network society where we're no longer limited by proximity to one another. But I think at least, I know for me, when it comes to health, I'm always thinking in terms of the brick and mortar doctor just down the road five minutes away from me. But you in many ways right now are closer to me than that doctor. Five minutes down the road. This is the beauty of the network society and telehealth and being able to transcend frontiers' proximities to be able to have direct access. And that's the next step, isn't it, in being able to benefit in terms of our health and preparedness with our health by virtue of this telemedicine structure and the networks of time being able to contact you in having that resource. We don't have to worry about the pharmacy down the road that may not be stocked. We've got immediate digital access right now. Yeah, exactly. That's another part of the process is the convenience of it. You don't have to set an appointment with your primary care doc who may be it's four weeks out, maybe more. I've heard people having to wait, you know, two months just to see their family doc. And then go and say, "Hey doc, number one, I'm paying for this out of pocket because by the way, this is not something insurance is going to cover." And what I need is this and this medication. I'm not sick right now, but I'm worried about potential disruptions in the supply chain or maybe I'm going on a trip or whatever it is. And hopefully that doctor understands and knows why this is important and is willing to sign up on that. And then you got to take that prescription and find that pharmacy as you mentioned and say, and again, you're paying out of pocket for all this. We've packaged this together in a way where you can just, you can sit in your living room at two in the morning and fill out this form. It takes five minutes. Again, it gets reviewed by a board certified physician. Prescriptions get sent to pharmacies that we've already negotiated the best pricing for and they fill this and they're able to fill these orders from beginning to end. It might take you five, ten minutes and then you wait a couple of days and it arrives on your doorstep and you've got it when you need it. There's a lot of effort went into making that as streamlined as possible. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned somebody sitting on their couch at two AM. They got the website. They're watching this interview. They click on the link below. Just walk us through what would be a great place to start for somebody who wants to be medically prepared. They've got their food. They've got their water, but now they want to be medically prepared. Give us a nice grid to go through for that. So typically you're thinking of not just yourself, but your family, whatever that situation is in your household, right? And so when you come, these are prescription medications. They are prescribed to individuals. So to you as an individual, to your child, to your partner. And so you have to remember that. Keep that in mind. When you come to the website, you're presented with an option to say, Hey, are you here for the Jase case for some emergency medications? Or are you here for our Jase daily? And our Jase daily service is for those folks who maybe do have a chronic medical condition that they take a medication for every day. I'm talking high blood pressure, thyroid disorders, seizure disorders, you know, anxiety, depression. So they take these medications every day. The Jase daily service allows them to obtain a full year supply of whatever that medication is, to have that on hand as their backup. And so that's kind of the branching point on the website, which one are you after? You may be after both. That's fine. But you choose one or the other to get started. And that enters you into what we call the physician encounter, where you're going to get a few basic health questions, you know, obviously who you are and where you're from. And then we want to know just basically what the doctor needs to know to give you these specific medications safely. So they don't need to know your full surgery history. They don't need to know your -- did your grandma have cancer? They don't need to know a lot of that more complete history. They need to know, you know, are you healthy? What meds do you take? Are you allergic to any meds? Yeah. Pretty much it. So that form that you're feeling out is really streamlined. It's simple. It's fast. The physician then gets that on their time. They'll review it. Now, in some occasions, they will reach out and say, "Hey." And it depends on the state you're in. They have different laws in each state as far as how much of an interaction needs to occur. And so they might reach out via text and say, "Hey, this is Dr. Such and Such. Looking at your stuff, just want to make sure that you don't have any questions." And you'll say, "Nope. I don't have any questions. Thanks." And that's it. That then gets sent to the pharmacy and ends up on your door. So cool. I mean, the future is now. It's just so neat that the future of telehealth is -- I mean, it's really right now. Yeah, I mean, you've had to be able to leverage this technology. You know, apart from the supply chain issue of medications, there is a shortage of health care providers. It's projected to reach numbers, you know, 30,000, 40,000 people. So when you look at the numbers in the next 10 years, the projections are anywhere from 30 to 40,000 doctors in shortage. So it's getting worse. You think that six-week wait time is only going to get worse. They're trying to fill the gaps with, you know, nurse practitioners, physicians assistants and each state's trying to figure that out. But at the end of the day, access to this person is also very difficult in a lot of places. And so leveraging telemedicine, as you said, you know, the power of being able to be right here in front of you right now and being able to do that, you know, across different state distances. All over the world. It's stunning. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah, nurse practitioners. Yeah, that's the new thing now. That's hot. Like what you're saying, in many ways, that's an indicator. That's a leading indicator. It's about the lag. And that is some serious shortage. I'm already seeing it in a pharmacy or not, if our health center down the road for me, they're not virtually all nurse practitioners at this point. And they're not taking any new patients. It's a general family health. If you're getting through where the nurse practitioners also aren't taking patients. Yeah. Yeah. That's not good. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. My tiny little state of Delaware here. Yeah, you're already starting to really see it. And so I love what you're doing. It's amazing. Sean, gang, you know, we look out for each other in this channel. Your health, well-being is our number one priority. And then of course we keep stock of the growing budding parallel economy each and every week. Sean is where both of those overlap. Just click on that link below. Get stocked up on the medicines you need so that you have them when you need them. Don't rely on these bumbling supply chains and overseas manufacturers. Click on the link below. Get your medical supplies today so you definitely have them if you need them tomorrow. So Sean, this is awesome. Thank you so much. Please come back soon. This is incredible stuff. Yeah. I'd love to. There's always a lot to talk about here. So thank you for the opportunity. Absolutely. Thanks, Sean. Thanks so much for listening. 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