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Not Your Average Fangirls: A K-Pop Podcast

RIIZE IS 7 | K-Pop News

Broadcast on:
16 Oct 2024
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Lisa serenades her man in Moonlit Floor, Jennie is fighting for small booty rights, and we have some strong WORDS about this RIIZE and Seunghan situation. Listen as we discuss what happened in the KPOP world this past week!


Listen to our KCON LA 2024 recap episode here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3livjXeDm0jcmLL2JvW3cE?si=CjSknnhRRFun0PB021Scvw


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Time stamps:


1:12 - Seunghan leaves RIIZE

36:02 - Billlie - trampoline

36:36 - Jennie - Mantra

40:02 - Lisa - Moonlit Floor

41:58 - AB6IX - NVKED

43:52 - XG - IYKYK

45:14 - QWER - My Name Is Malguem

47:14 - Jay Park - Gimme A Minute

49:54 - Songs of the Week


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- This week on Not Your Average Train Girls. - 'Cause what was the last one? McDonald's, double, Big Mac, super fast. - Who knows? What was the last-- - My nasty, nasty, nasty. - There we go. - She said super sizey things. - Lisa Serenade's her French boyfriend and moonlit floor. Jenny's writing for small booty rights, and we have some words regarding the Sun Hong situation. Check it out. - What's up, you guys? It's Not Your Average Name Heroes. Back with another week of K-Pop Miss, Sugar Girl Cat, not pissed off, and we're gonna talk about it a little bit later. But it's been a rough fucking day. - Yes. - It's been a rollercoaster of emotions. I'm upset. Like I said, we gonna talk about it. Also, stand boy next door. Thank you. - Hello, everyone. I get to go see XG tomorrow. - Woo! - And my birthday is next weekend. - Yay! - Yay! - It's Tarracane. - That's all I got. - And hello, everybody. This is Carolina. It has been a rollercoaster of emotions to pass like two days. But yeah. Besides that, Changmin is gonna be the itchy song, and he is doing like a slow rap, and it's great. Thank you. - Yeah, I'm happy for you. - Yes. (laughing) Meanwhile, in the world of K-Pop, literally, the only thing that's been talked about for the past like four days is Sunghan from Bryce, and how OT6 Bryce are fucking crazy. Thank you. - Yeah, he got announced that he was coming back, and everybody was like, yay! Everybody was excited, and we're like, finally, and the boys were excited, and they were like, yay! And then two days later, you know, certain fans are batshit crazy, and now that poor boy has decided to leave the group, because, wow. - I've said things. - Yeah. - Let's set the scene. A 17-year-old boy, 16 maybe at the time, who knows? - Who knows? - Living his life, training at SM Entertainment. Supposed to be one of the best companies in Korea. My ass. (laughing) - Yeah. - Not being at one of the top companies in Korea. He's about to achieve his dreams. He's like, wow, he's in the same company as his role model, G-Sun, from NCT. He's living his best life. - Yes. - He's living his best life, and maybe he got a girlfriend. - In high school. - You know, they dating, you know? - As teenagers do. - As teenagers do it. As every fucking person in Korea is obsessed with, young love. - Yep. - You got a girlfriend, okay? They take a couple of pictures, he posted on his Instagram store, when he was the little boy, okay? Well, not a little boy, boy. He was a teenager, yeah. Flash forward, he debuts. (clapping) Finally. Amazing, incredible. Some bitch ass, quote unquote, friend of his, decides that they're gonna post all the old photos of him and his girlfriend together, before he debuted. You would think, damn, that's kind of an invasion of privacy. That's nobody's really fucking business, but oh no. - It's everybody's business in Korea. - It's everybody's business in Korea. - Yes. - And they said, how dare you have a girlfriend before you were even an idol, before you even debuted, before you even had a job? How could you do that? How could you do that while I'm sitting here laying next to my boyfriend? You crazy bitch. - You're an idol. Why, why are you dating? - Flash forward, he goes on an indefinite quote unquote, hiatus. Flash forward 10 months, 10 months. - Yep. - Finally. - Yes. - We get little snippets from the members of the group. They do little things. They're leaving holes in choreography. - Yes. - They're talking about, yeah, rise at seven. They're following along with the chance. Everybody's like, yes. - They're acknowledging fan signs that say, rise at seven. Rise will always be seven, OT seven. They're like pointing them out, acknowledge them in the crowd. - Like yes, yes, yes. Flash forward. - Laughing about it. - Last little word, SM posts. He's back after 10 months of agony, everybody. - And everybody rejoiced on us. - Ever. - And we're so happy. I've never seen so much community in K-pop. Like literally everybody. People didn't even stand. - Was like, yes. - That's for him. Even the people that don't even like listen to rise are like, good for him. - Like that's so great. - 'Cause who has ever come back from an indefinite hiatus? No one. - Everybody was scared that they were gonna Lucas him. - Right? - And everybody was like, oh, my God. I can't believe it. SM finally did something right. - That was our first red flag. - As soon as this fucking happened, as soon as it happened, a certain group of fans will just say OT six rise fans. - Not even fans, because at this point, are you serious? - OT six. - OT six. - Was that a clue, sirs? - Yes. - Decided it would be fucking cute to send funerary reefs to the fucking SM building. Wishing deaths on a 22 year old boy. - For having a girlfriend. - For having a girlfriend when he was 17. Also, which is crazy to me, because their whole culture is like, couples close. - Thank you. - Yeah, yeah, you love, we love that. And also too, like, you think I'm gonna go to work five days a week? Like, five days a week going to work with my paycheck, I gotta pay rent, I gotta eat. You think I'm gonna spend money on a funerary to send in front of a building? - Girl, those things are fucking expensive. Not only that, but they bought a permit for the piece of, like, area that the reefs were on. So even if someone wanted to remove them, they physically could not, because they had to permit for the area. - That's crazy. - That's psychotic. - Psychotic. - That's psycho behavior. - That is psycho behavior, because what the fuck, first of all, like, you don't know this person. And also, you probably, the people that are out there, like, telling him to stop and throwing hay and doing all this shit, y'all probably had boyfriends and girlfriends when you were 17. Like, I don't understand. You probably have a person also, like, with you right now. And you're pissed about this person. And all they say, and all they say is like, well, that's an idol, like, that's different. No, it's not. - No, like, hello, like, but what do you think is happening? Like, do you think that if he's never had a girlfriend or never looked at a girl ever before, that you have a chance? Like, it's weird to me, because it's like, he can't have a girlfriend or pay attention to women, unless they are fans at a fan sign when you have him barking for you and asking him, why did you invite so many people to our date? Do you think I look pretty? Would you make a great boyfriend? Like, you're asking him? All these, like, couple boyfriends. He looks so boyfriend today. But like, when the man is actually a boyfriend, that's an issue. - It's an issue. (laughing) - Hello? - Hello. The crazy thing to me is, so the statement they released about him coming back was, Slinghan did not want to come back. He was very content. He was like, I am out of this group. His members, the six people that you stand, the six people that you're defending with your fucking life, apparently, came to him and said, don't leave the fucking group. - Please come back. - Please come back. - We want you back. - We want you here. And he did it. And he said, you know what? My boys, for my boys, for the fans who have supported me for as long as they have, I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna do it. And then not even two days later, you guys fucked this boy's mind up so bad that his, in his mind, the only way anything was gonna be okay is if he left. And like, you literally have members telling you, like, we want this. You're trying to, like-- - Why the whole literally. - Well, don't quote defend us. Defend them for what? Like, we want him. We're protecting the other six members. - Protect what? - Protect them from what? - From their friend? - Like, their friend that they're gonna be in touch with and be friends with. - Regardless. - Regardless, like, and they're like, one been like, goes on there, he's like, bro, like, please stop the hate. Like, we want this. Like, we are happy that he is back. As a group, we decided that we wanted to, that he is in our group. He is our member, we want this. Please calm down. And they're like, no, no, we're doing this for you. No, no, he needs to be out. - And then the fans that were like, the fans that, oh, this shit would drove me crazy. They were like, if they're defending him really, that means they're choosing their friendship over us fans. Yes, bitch. - Yes, they don't know you. - And their lives that they have real relationships with. - They don't know you. - 100%, they don't know you. And the craziest thing to me is that this boy was at this company and he had to walk past all these fucking funeral leaves about him asking him to die, telling him to die, he had to read all these comments online that said, if you stay in the group, I will bully you so badly, you're gonna unalive yourself. I'll get weird of you one way or another. That's psycho, that's literally psychotic behavior. And the precedent that SM is putting out that they can do things like this and they'll get their way is insane to me. As a company, you should have been like, stop the shit. It was a decision that we have made over the course of this many months. Let it the fuck go. And my crazy thing is, how are you gonna talk to him two days later about the situation? You should have just let it, of course, the first full blown thing was gonna be crazy. - Yeah, exactly. - I didn't think it was gonna be this crazy. - Yeah. - For God fucking forbid, I didn't think it was gonna be this fucking insane, but to give it two days to marinate is wild to me. - Wow. - It's when you had the discussion, not only did you have the discussion, you had the discussion when the members weren't even in the fucking country. - Yup. - Oh, and apparently there's footage of a couple members crying in the airport. I'm just like, are you kidding? - Honestly, at that point, at that point, I literally would have been like, if one more bitch gets in front of me, I'm fighting them. - Like at that point, they want their fucking fan sites in their face taking photos of them, all of them with their hats over their eyes. - Like at that point, they're fine, they're so happy. - No. - Like your fucking life together. - No, they're not. Like at that point, it's like, do I even wanna be in this fucking group? I don't wanna keep looking at you, bitches that are out here not like telling my friend to die. - Like they literally, they hate you. - They do not like you. You were not the question when you were not the favorite. - If I was to rise, I would look at them with disgust every time I fucking see them. - Same. - I want you to know that I fucking despise them. And I hope they look at them every time and they can see in their eyes, you fucking ruin this. I hate you, go to hell. - But they're crazy, so they're gonna be like, wow, he's staring at me and then you look at him and he's literally like murdering you with his eyes and they're like, wow, he loves me. - No, he loves it. - But it's crazy too, 'cause the thing is, SM is gonna play into their hands even more and they're gonna give them more fan signs and more special things and all that shit. And that's why they think that that's why they have that mentality that they run the company, that the idols are their property and their puppets because they can do things like that. And no one's stepping in and saying, you're crazy. - And the thing is that also this has happened in SM before and they keep fucking doing it. They never learn from their mistakes at all. They always listen to whatever these type of fans say. Whatever the crazy fans say, they believe it and they keep going because they're afraid that they're gonna boycott and not support your group. Bitch, okay, you lose 500 people but you have 25,000s behind you that support your decision. You're just looking small-minded, looking at this small group of people instead of looking at the whole fan base of your group. Like they've done this with Super Junior, they did this with EXO, they did this with TVXQ, they did it with everything. Like it just makes no fucking sense that they do not learn from everything. They just literally give the control to those fucking crazy fans. - Yeah. - So it's one of those things where it's not even like, for me, at this point, it's not even like a fan idol thing. Where the fuck is your morality? Where is your empathy for an actual human being? 'Cause at the end of the day, this is somebody's child, this is somebody's friend, this is somebody's brother. And you're like, I hope you fucking die, I hope you fucking die, all because he was smoking and dating a girl. Like get at the fuck together. Y'all need a harsh wake-up call and it's gonna be in the form of me beating that ass if I ever come across y'all in real life. I hope, I hope one day I've seen some of those bitches on Twitter and everything, I've seen your face. Now I know, I got a face to the fucking name, I got a face to the problem. If I'm ever in Korea, I will face deportation and beat that ass, don't cry me. - It's crazy to be too because you have the crazies that are sitting this stuff. But like Carolina said, you have all these other people who are showing support. So at the end of the day, it's not like they can say like, "Oh, we didn't know because all we see is the hate." Like no, there was so much support. People like they were saying, people from other fandoms were like, "Wow, great for him." Like that's really cool. I'm glad that he got to come back and be a part of his group. And the boys are so happy. And like I just don't, like it's just bananas to me for them to just be like, "Oh yeah, just kidding." Like if anything, like I said, modify that boys contract. If they don't wanna see him in stage in Korea, okay fuck them. - Bring him here. - But put his ass on an international stage. Every time they step foot outside of Korea, play him on stage. If anything, he'd probably be happier. He probably would not be upset if he didn't have to perform in front of these crazies. Like he'd probably be like, "You know what? "Actually great for me. "Yeah, I don't wanna be a part of that." And it's insane that literally less than 24 hours ago when they were in Madrid for music bank, all you fucking heard was chance of this man's name from 50,000 people in an arena. Like get your life together. Like you have to literally chanting his name too, showing banners, how fucking happy the boys looked on stage. How fucking happy they looked in that announcement about the Japan concert because in their minds, they were like, "He don't know that you about "to come back to this?" - Exactly. - Like the joy, the pure joy that these boys had, that you have now ripped from them and think you're doing something good for them when you're like, "Oh, it's because "of their achievements, no bitches about you." It was your selfish ass that needed to feel power over these boys, and now they fucking hate you. And I'm so fucking tired of SM. I'm so tired of SM not standing up for their artists at all. And I hate to be that bitch, but I feel like if Luz Uman was still the CEO of SM, this shit would've never happened. Ooh. - I'm not just saying. - And that man's also crazy. - He loved SM rookie, he loved NCT, he loved those boys. So I know he would've been like, "Fuck them. "You're gonna stay in the fucking group." He would've never been on hiatus to begin with, to be honest, for fucking what? I hope y'all do never live in peace in your fucking life. I hope you never find love. I hope you stub your toe every day. I hope you just live in misery and then burn in hell where you deserve to be. Thank you for your fucking time. - For me, it just pisses me off. They should've just been like, "Fuck you. "We're gonna do what we want." - But the thing is, it was his choice. I get it was his choice because he's like, "I don't wanna, I don't wanna--" - It's like one hoe again. - It's like one hoe again. - It's one hoe again. - It was like BI, it's like all of them. They don't wanna ruin the orientation of the room. - And the thing is, it's because they're choosing to do that, and I think they wouldn't, or they would feel like they have more options. If they were confident in the fact that their company was standing behind them, if I had a company that I knew would protect, their artists would protect me, then I would be more inclined to be like, "You know what? "It's crazy right now I'm gonna ride it out "because I know at the end of the day, "my company and my members, everyone has my back." So if these crazies get too crazy, I know that I'm protected. But yeah, of course they make the decision to walk away because at the end of the day, you're letting him physically walk past funeral rooms. No one's trying to cover them, or no one's trying to protect him from that, or no one's giving him the confidence like, "Hey, look, you're gonna see this "bad shit crazy stuff outside?" But just know that we have your back 100%. We are not condoning this. We are looking for a legal action, like something. Obviously he didn't feel protected enough to have the confidence to stick around, and that's why he's like, "You know what? "I don't wanna mess up my friends' careers "because obviously the company's not gonna have my back "or my members back, so I have to take this "in my own hands and just leave." So it's just like, and SM always sits there like, "Ooh, well, it was his decision." And it's like, no. - Yeah, but you think you do nothing. - You do nothing. - Because of the factors, exactly, the factors in. And honestly, who are we to say, we weren't there. Maybe they were pressuring him to make that decision. It was so many things. But he shouldn't have to have to make that decision. And I just honestly, we as fans, it's scary that other quote-unquote fans have this much power. I just think, I'm all here for the, oh, the Lulu is the solulu and all this shit, but this is psycho behavior. You don't know these people. You don't own these people. You literally just like their music, and they entertain you. That is it. The parasocial relationship is parasocial for a reason, bitch, you do not know them like that. And you can't just think that you do. And we might joke around being like, "Oh, so and so idle, we would banter and we were joke." But we say that all the time. But you don't know these people. But you can't just go up to them being like, "You're my best friend." For them, it's like, first of all, bitch, who the fuck are you? Okay, do I know a lot of facts about some of these titles? Because they share it? Yeah, but that does not mean I know them as people. I do not. And that's what I think it's like getting that line blurred. Like that's so many fans feel this entitlement that they like, yeah, like they own these people and they have to do everything that they say as fans. I'm like, that's not, we're in like a mutual relationship here. I'll enjoy your content and support you, but that doesn't mean that you owe me shit. You know what I mean? - Yeah, 'cause at the end of the day, this is their job. Like, yes, I have no doubt that a lot of them truly do love and care for their fans. - But this is like, you can call it now. - Yeah, you wouldn't become an entertainer if you didn't. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like a lot of them do love their fans and they love to have like the banter and the signs, like when you do fan calls, like the flirty flirt. But like, at the end of the day, like you know, like that's their job, like that's just like, oh, we're hanging out, but I don't really know this person. And like, I think they get that confused. But like, I don't know. I just, someone needs to do a study on it because like, that's just, it's just really weird that they just feel like they have this entitlement over these people's lives. Like, again, America's not perfect. I'm not saying we got our own problems. But over here, like no one would care if I walked up to somebody and I was just like, I don't like this actor 'cause he has a wife. - You would sound so sick. - At one time, he smoked a cigarette and I don't really like smokers. And at this point, I think we should all boycott his movies and he should get fired and never act again. People are gonna, people are gonna call the cops on me. They're gonna, they're gonna give me a grippy sock vacation. They're gonna say, ooh, someone needs to lock her up. Like, nurse, she's escaped. Like, they're gonna look at me like I'm crazy. Like, girl, what? They're gonna be so confused. But like, in other places, like for example, like in Korea, like if I said that to someone, like I feel like if I said that to five people, like four of them would be like, girl, you right. Let's boycott. - Yeah. - Like, that's crazy. Like, I want, like I said, somebody needs to do a study on this behavior and like why this is so ingrained in them and that they think that because I've seen people on Twitter coming from that side and them saying like, you just don't understand, it's different here. And I'm like, okay, so what, what is that? - What is the difference? - What is the difference? What is that thing that makes you think that-- - It's okay. - That's okay to do that. - It's okay. Like, I would never ever become, I would do, I would pull a Jenny in a minute. I would get my little fame over there, just to start my ass off 'cause it's easier for people that look like me to start a career over there. And then I would blow up internationally and I'll say who-- - Joseph. - Company who, what? - Yeah, I don't know them. - I would be like-- - I don't know them. - Yeah, like I would definitely use it as a foot in the door but I would leave so fast because like, I couldn't handle that pressure of just knowing that I can wake up one day and wear the wrong color socks and my career is over, just because to them, like me wearing yellow socks, but also this boy and this other group who have ever ever seen one time because we were all the same music show, also wore those same manufactured colored socks that we both got from Uniqlo. - You're a couple. (laughing) - I'm dating now and now I'm a whore and I'm trying to ruin his career and now I don't have a career for myself all because I decided I went to Uniqlo and said, "Ooh, name socks, it's cute." Like, I don't, or are because our stylists are friends and they recycle some shit. Like, I don't understand. - I don't get it, I will never understand and I feel like this is so unfair to him and to rise itself. Like, if I was rise, like, I will not be able to do none of these schedules, like seeing these people. Like, my first question would be like, "Do you like Sunha?" And if they say no, I'll be like, "Move along, bitch." I'm so sorry. - I would literally come out on the stage with my middle fingers up like this. Fuck all of you. I don't even wanna be here. - I would literally stand there on stage and I'd be like, "Well, I hope the back track is on 'cause I ain't saying-- - I ain't singing, I ain't singing. - 'Cause at the end of the day, like, that's their friend. Like, they grew up together. They like, if you're training with someone and you're around that person 24/7 and you're depending on that person and like, there's like a bond you have when you like train like that. And like, that's their friend. - The trauma. - And he's a human and like, to sit here, I couldn't sit here and perform in front of people who literally told my best friend, my brother, so when I'm like, that knows me inside and out to go kill himself. Like, I couldn't be like, "Oh, dang, that's crazy." Anyway, love you guys. Here's a song. - Tell 'em though. - Like, you expect me like, they are expecting one bin and them to be out there like throwing finger hearts at them. Those boys are never, ever gonna be the same with them. - It's definitely gonna start feeling like the, for at least for that fan base, the quote unquote fan, like service is definitely going to start feeling like fan service. Like, it's not gonna be genuine. It's not gonna be, it's literally like, I have to do this for my paycheck. Here's a heart, here's a heart, get out of my face. Like, yeah. And then we're gonna complain about that, of course. - They just don't seem the same. - Yeah, I wonder why. - At the end of the day, it's just like, it's so sad. - It's sad. - I feel so sad for them. I feel sad for him. - For him. - Being a good friend, he felt the necessity to leave this group that he has created with his best friends. He felt that it was necessary for him to do that in order for his friends to succeed, which in itself is just fucking heartbreaking. - Yeah. - Not only that, but these six other boys who are so excited that they were finally gonna have the chance to do this amazing thing with their best friend again, have to mourn the loss of him in their group again. - Mm-hmm, yeah again. - Again, it's the big word again. - Like seeing those videos of him walking past those, those like, "Oh, my heart just ate for his own." - That's how hard it is. - And then seeing the thing where somebody was like, "I saw him in the subway looking at the ad with all the sticky notes on it." And I was like, "So you're telling me." He walked past all these reefs. He went down into the fucking subway station and he sat in front of (gasps) nothing fucking great. And he sat in front of a fucking billboard filled with sticky notes from all these people who are like, "We're, hope you're healthy. Like, we're always rooting for you. We love you." He did that and then he went home. He came back the next day and he decided it's just not worth it. - Yeah. - And so it's like, let's literally all of his hard work just down the drain over some dumb ratchet. - I just hope he is surrounding himself with people that actually support him and give a shit and are telling him that he's not a terrible person 'cause he's an INFP, he's at that age where shit be hidden harder than usual. He's already lost success once. Now he's losing it again after feeling like he was gonna gain it back. Like, he's already taken so many blows. I hope he has surrounded himself with people that support him and give him love and give him unconditional support because he fucking needs it. - Yeah. And the person that like leaked those pictures, like-- - I hope you were having the worst time of your fucking-- - I hope you are. Like, I hope you like, 'cause whether you did it to be malicious or you did it to be he-haha funny. Like, I wonder like you're seeing all this chaos that you were the catalyst of and I wonder like how you feel now. 'Cause like-- - I hope everything you want in life does not happen to you, thank you. - No, literally. - 'Cause like that's wild. - They deserve nothing in life. I would hate to know that people that act like this get things that they want in their life. - Yeah. - That would drive me fucking that. So I hope you get nothing you ever want and you get everything that you deserve. - 'Cause-- - Because like, what was the point of that? Like, what? - That was no point, like people over there wanna be just malicious and rude for no fucking reason. - And you know, to the fans that are, you know, supporting him, like the gay fans that are like adamly on Korea saying that I'm Korea on TikTok saying that like, this, not all of us are like this. A lot of us are really excited. Like, I feel so sorry for y'all that y'all are getting like lumped in with these group of crazy people. Like, that sucks for you, but I hope that, you know, that you keep supporting and, you know, trying to drown out the voices of the crazies. 'Cause yeah. - Subscribe on Instagram, King, do something. So you can see the outpour of love. - I'm saying. - Yeah, the 20-something people that have planned a boycott, like three days before he announced that he was coming back, like apparently there was this boycott going on, not a boycott, a protest. They were gonna go to SM and protest for him to be back in the group. And like, three days later, he announced that he was, like, to those 20-something people, may you keep thriving. - Seriously, the serve of the world, yeah. It's such a sad situation, honestly. Like, we hate seeing it happen all over. Like, you know, this is something that's happened like multiple times with idols. And I just feel like it's stupid. Like, we, again, they're not a little robot. Like, if you wanna fucking stand a robot, go like an anime group or something. Like, where you don't look like-- - It's just makes no fucking sense. Also, in my mind as well, they're like, well, he did something wrong. So let's say an alternate fucking universe, being a normal teenager and dating somebody and smoking is wrong. Let's say that in an alternate universe, that's the truth. How many times does somebody have to apologize for their actions and say that they're reflecting on themselves before you as a person or you as a fan can take that apology and sincerely feel like he means it? Because as far as I'm concerned, he apologized and did what he needed to do multiple times. - Multiple times. - So what is it for you guys? What does it take? What does it take, again, in an alternate fucking universe that he did do something wrong? How many times does somebody have to sincerely apologize and reflect on their actions before you as a human being are like, you know what? Maybe he is sorry. He did change. Maybe he's not dating bitches with a face like that, which is bananas. And maybe, maybe he's really sorry for what he did. Like what point does that come to? Because you can be like, oh, he doesn't deserve to be here all you want, but he apologized, he reflected. He took time away from the spotlight to decide whether this was something that he wanted or not. And in that time, we could have seen pictures of him with other girls. We could have seen pictures of him smoking 'cause he was under a fucking microscope. I 100% guaranteed people were watching him like a fucking hawk. So we could have seen all those things and we didn't. So what point is it like, oh, well, he's reflected on his actions. He's apologized. Let's, you know, let him be back in the group. Like what harm is it going to do to you as a person to accept somebody's apology and let them live their life? - That's my thing. And I know that most of these people probably smoke. They, you know, fuck whoever they want. - They get drunk in the middle of the street every weekend. - And fall asleep on trash at the end of the night. I just don't understand. Like basically it's like what, when I was calling the kettle black. - Exactly. - You hold your celebrities to such a standard that they can't be human beings. - Yep. - And that's crazy. That's like people being mad at Justin Bieber for getting married and having a child. Like do you know how fucking delusional you would sound? If somebody was like, fuck Justin Bieber, I'm never gonna listen to his music again 'cause he has a wife and child. Like you're fucking nuts, literally. - Well they tried to do that with you and so. (laughs) - Yeah. - They literally wanted him to have him make though. - And SM did what, ignored it. So I don't understand why again, they couldn't defend the person that they needed to defend. Instead they were like, oh my God. 25 to 50 people hate that this happened. They brought a thousand death reefs to the company. Get them in here right now. We have to talk about this. - It's stupid. But also it's just fucked up because again, they weren't the guys weren't even there to talk about. - Exactly. - You take months to come to the conclusion that you're gonna add him back to the band. But less than 48 hours to decide that he is gonna leave. - Exactly. That's the part right there, your honor. That's the part. - Like come on. After months of deliberation, we decided that it was best for the group. And the group wanted him to be back. And Simhan said, you know what? If you want me back, the fans want me back, yes. And then 48 hours later, you're like, nope. Guess what, the fans don't fucking want him back. We didn't reflect and we didn't take time to think about how do do do do. So you're telling me in the 10 months, you're telling me in the 10 months that he was gone and however many months that you guys decided that he was gonna come back. You didn't one time think about the hate that he was gonna get at the beginning when you told people that he was gonna come back. That's not something that crossed your mind. Be fucking for real. Simhan, I'd hope you're doing good king. You deserve everything beautiful in this world. Please know that people love you. You're probably never gonna listen to this. But please know that people love you. Rise, I'm so sorry. People are boy carding y'all heavy right now. - Oh yes. - Like really bad international fans are not on the fucking game. They unfollowed them on all their social medias. They're signed up a petition to bring Simhan back. They have deleted all of their shit from Spotify, Apple Music, everything. It's insane. - It's nasty out here folks, but you know, they're gonna listen to the crazies. If you're gonna listen to your click, if you're gonna listen to your crazies, then don't be out here saying that they are a global group. - Exactly. - Yeah, that was a good tweet. - It's for national groups. If you're not gonna take international fans' names to its account. It makes us feel like fucking shit that we've been here defending these people and we've still supported rise and still bought their merch and still listen to their albums and streaming their music videos with the hopes that he would come back. And then he did and all of a sudden you were like, your fucking opinion, doesn't it matter? - Yep. - We're gonna listen to these 50 fans that don't fucking like it. - Yep. But then when it comes to money, oh fuck. - Yeah, we love international money. - Yeah, let me price these tickets at $600 so you can wave goodbye to them at the end of the night. - Yep. - Like go fuck yourself, SM. - That part. - I'm never gonna get an NCT interview, but you know what, worth it. Go fuck yourself. Burn. - We've said it, SM is just down the drain. - You're fucking gross, you're nasty. - SM is down there. - You're supposed to be protecting these people, but not. You're just fucking sitting there, okay? You're fucking sitting there and letting these fucking people talk to these idols any way they fucking want, you're insane. - Like they're fucking gross. - Have you not learned from the past? Have you not fucking learned? Like be fucking real. You almost had fucking members of TVXQ get murdered 'cause somebody put fucking glue in their drink. Like get your shit together. - Yeah, but shit's still wild. Like I get your fucking life. - I just like even just putting everything together of this like Sinehan situation is still crazier to me. It's just not fair. It's not fair at all. To him, to the boys, they were like, you know, the rest of our eyes, like it's just not fair. Again, just thinking about how the rest of the members like feel right now, if I was them. Like I just, I don't even know how I could continue. Like I have no idea because like, how do I know? Like how do I know you're not one of the people involved in sending these shit to my member, to my friend? Like, you know, like those are fighting words. It's upsetting. - It's a gross situation. Like you don't deserve to be a fan. You don't deserve to like anybody. And I hope it's cause it's mainly fucking Wamben stands. I hope he looks at you disgusted every fucking time he sees you. - Which is wild because... - Wamben is such like a cutie patootie. - But he's the one that was on there saying like, please don't let him want him back. Like he's the one that was saying like, no, we decided this. - And they were like, "S M is making you say this." - That's the last company that I would ever... - Literally. - And also if you know anything about that man, even from the perspective on an outsider, that man is not going to do anything that he doesn't want to fucking do. Yep. He don't got the time nor the energy. - Yep, that part. - That's what's happening. I'm hoping by a miracle of the universe. - You're all that petition got like 60,000. - I'm not surprised. Like I signed one earlier today too. So, but yeah, I just hope he's okay. That's like the main concern, honestly. Like, "Well, I want the sun building to burn." Yes, yes. To scare whoever the CEO is now, 'cause the fuck. Well, that's basically all that's been happening in K-pop because this is all that people have been talking about. And I mean, valid because we were very excited. How we were going to talk about, Son Han was not supposed to be like this. We were supposed to be happy and so like full of glee that he was back. And now here we are. So, shame on USM and shame on you, stupid fans. - I mean, I'm not fucking surprised. The way they handled the Renjune situation, the way they handled that bitch Judy breaking into fucking J-Hands hotel room. Like, I'm not fucking surprised. They don't give a fuck. - Bro, could you imagine though, let's just say that this gets enough traction in SM. We're like, "Actually--" - He's back. - He's back. - I want that. I want that. I want that. So we can be like, "I told you so bitch." - I would be nuts. - "I told you so bitch you were dumb ass bitch." And if you want to boycott them, then boycott them, bitch. They have good support now. Now that we got all the-- - That'd be nuts. - All of the fuck the people out of this fandom. 'Cause what the heck? How dare you all? I'm looking out for that. You are not looking out for them. You literally disregarded their opinion, disregarded their decision, disregarded everything that they wanted to work for and what they wanted to do for your own because you think you know better. The fuck? Anyways. - Seng Han, baby. I hope you're doing great. - But for the rest of the week, we had a couple comebacks this past week. Starting with Billy. They dropped Trampoline, which is a pre-release to their single, which comes out next week. And this is cute, fresh, fun. Love the concept of just, they were just jumping around. - They were just doing great times. - I like the song though. - I think the song is really good and it fits them. And I'm wondering though, if they're gonna continue with the spooky, 'cause they do kind of like spooky things, but I'm wondering if that's maybe like the title track that's gonna be that. But yeah, but this is really good. And I love that they're getting lots of support recently. They're gaining more popularity. So good for them. Jenny also dropped Mantra. - This is that pretty grandma. - That part. - Also, I love the nod to the rush hour in the beginning with the little girl. - Yes! I was like, heeheeheehee. I wonder how many people are gonna catch this? - I've never seen rush hour, so. Well, yeah. - I didn't get that. - Nobody asked the prize. - I was like, that is to be expected. - That is like a comedy movie. You at least like comedies. - So, I feel, I feel like maybe I've seen it. - But then again, I could be just thinking that I saw a clip of it. - This is a little girl singing Fantasy by Mariah Carey in the background and she's like, ♪ Oh, when you what by every night ♪ ♪ Talkin' sweet and lookin' ♪ ♪ It's her two bodyguards in the front ♪ ♪ And she's just goin' off ♪ - And then she gets kidnapped. - Yeah. - Oh, then no. - Well, no idea. - You should watch it. It's pretty good. I like the rush hour movies. They're pretty funny. - I feel like maybe I've seen one, but I just don't know. - Anyways, besides the point. - Anyway, the note to rush hour was cute, especially with the little girl in the uniform singing her song in the background. - Yes. - Is that pretty girl much? Is that fun? - This is good. - Just touched down in LA. - Like Jenny really said, I'm an LA girl now. - And she also said, I'm makin' bitches by. - They wanna swing both ways. - She did say that. I said, well, okay. - She was confident. - She was out here saying. - He only said that was funny is when she had that line about like throwin' ass, and I said, that's her little booty rights. - That's what I said. The moment she said that line, I was just like, okay, yeah, get it little booty rights. - Wow. - Little booty rights. - Tiny booty rights. - She must be talkin' about her backup dancers. (laughing) - But it's okay, girl, yeah. - Throw it back to. - Throw it back. - Throw it back. - Whatever you got. - Throw that back. - Whatever you got, you throw it back. It's all right. - As long as you have it fun and you're good, but you have a business. (laughing) - That's not not Tina Belcher. (laughing) - But this was really good. I really liked it. I really liked it. I liked the concept. I liked the her outfit. She fuckin' looks great. - It's one of those like, it'll stay in your head. - Yeah, it has been stuck in my head. It's a catchy chorus. - Yes, even if I don't know, like all I know is this, that pretty girl mantra, this does. - This is the flange. She just touched down there. - Yeah, see, I can't do all that. But I can be like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. - Yeah, look at it. - But she looks great. I loved it. I loved her outfit, the little skirt. - Yeah. - But she could only wear that 'cause she ain't got no wear. - It literally. (laughing) - I said the same thing. I was just like, I want that fit, but I need more fabric. - Much more fabric. - Much more fabric. - Yeah, it was literally just a square. I said, well, I said, damn. How is she like, that's insane. - And damn. - That's how she do that. - Right there. - How's she do that? But it just doesn't come out. - No. - It just doesn't come out 'cause there's. You know? - It doesn't exist in there. (laughing) - It don't tickle with the wiggle. - Like, it's crazy. - The wiggle was non-existent. - Like, damn. - But good for you, Jenny. - I love that bitch. - Do your thing. - Yeah, same. - Same. I wonder if her and T are still together. - Who knows? - I'm probably not. - Probably not. - But I know. - She was just like, you want to have military? I'm gonna have to call this quits for a little bit. - She said, I'm gonna move in LA. - Yeah. - Oh, yeah. I'm gonna be living my life in LA. I can not be tied down. - Yeah. - We'll talk when you get out. (laughing) - Honestly, when him bulking up, he might be a hard commodity by the time he comes out. - Don't, don't, don't. - She'd be a- - Be careful, Tay. They're gonna boycott you. - Ooh. - They haven't already. - If they haven't already, yeah, you're right. - Lisa also dropped "Mumlet Floor," which is like a cover. - Looks so sweet, and she did kiss me. - Yeah, one of my favorite songs by Six Pins, known to Richard. - I love that song. - Also crazy when you think about the man she was singing this song. - Yeah, I said, wow, she wrote such a sweet song for her ugly boyfriend, but you know, ugly people, they love too. - Listen, I will say, I saw a comment on Twitter, and it was literally like them talking about the song, and then they were just like, oh, like, who is she dating? Like somebody replied, and then they posted, and it was just a picture of the man, and the other person replied and said, really, that person? - And I said, damn. - She said, I like French boys. - I said, damn, they really coming for him. - Yeah, he's, okay, I shouldn't say that. He's not cute, but if he makes her happy, right? He makes her happy, he takes care of her, like, you know, just because we don't think he's cute, maybe she thinks he's like fine. You know what I mean? - I mean, I guess she does, 'cause she's dating him. I mean, I have had friends that'd be like, I love my man, but he's not cute. - So maybe, I mean, then maybe, maybe he's funny, and he has money, so, you know. We love this for her. She out here singing to her man, how she loves him, and she, the French boy got her. I will probably not listen to the song again. - I don't think it's cute. - So we're here. - No, it's super cute, but I probably wouldn't go back to it, but it's very cute, and she's so in love, and she's like the French boy with the green eyes. I was like, aww. Like, okay, who's the friend though with the white? - Okay. (laughing) - It's the, it's the-- - You can't sit on a mic. - Head, it's the bed cam, but of, of, of, of, of, K-pop. - SM stocks dropped. - SM stocks dropped? Not surprised, not surprised. Money, money talks. Anyways, AB6 also dropped naked this past week. This is actually a very fun song. - I know, I feel like-- - Are we getting the resurgence of AB6? - Right? - Yeah, I'm just like kidding. I have a few notes though. - Yes. - Why call naked if we'll not naked? (laughing) I just feel like he has been naked in a plethora of other AB6 songs and the one song that calls for it. He not naked, like, we had a crop top, and I said, oop, but there's a shirt under it. I said, sis wind. Why? - What was that? - How dare he? - How dare he, but he was very cute in his red fluffy hat. But if they ever put that man in shorts and cowboy boots with a hanker or with a banana wrapped around his ankle again, I will write a strongly worded letter. - If you write-- - Like, there was a banana on his ankle. - There was a banana on his ankle. I was so upset. I was like, he is beautiful, but even he cannot pull this look off. (gasping) - Oh my god, hold on, Kenzie's here. - I ran up here to say that the KK fan stands for Karen. You're welcome. (laughing) - Oh, one thing that while I was watching that music video, I honestly, at times, think about it, I'm like, I feel like Woojin just shows up to things. - Absolutely. - I feel like he was really-- - Like that in 101. - Yeah, he's literally just like, so I'm here, and what are we doing? Okay, cool, yeah, sure, that works. For everything, I feel like Woojin is just like that. You know what I mean? - I love it. - He's just chilling. But very surprised by this, I'm very happy. I came in there with no expectations because lately, their music has not been the greatest. No tino shade, okay? But yeah. - Yeah, no, it was fun. I enjoyed it. I was like, oh. - Same. I'm enjoying this concept too. Their fits were great, except for, I guess, the bandana on the ankle that I did not notice. (laughing) - I notice everything about him. - But we're here, oh my god. (laughing) You're right. XG also drop, if you know, you know, and I just wanna say, same, same, same, same. I just wanna say that all of their damn music videos are so freaking incredible. - They're cool. - They're so cool to watch the cinematography is cool. The concept is always just so out of, out there. And like, they always look great. I just, I love that they just do this like weird shit, basically. They're just like, we're aliens, basically. And the song is amazing. I also love it, another banger. I wish I could see them live. - Yeah, again, in their concert, Terika, take video. - Oh, they have a no-video policy, so I'll try to sneak some. - Oh, okay, well, I saw some on Twitter. - Do they, okay, 'cause I saw, they sit on a thing, and it was just like, no video, no, photography. - But hopefully they mean like big cameras, so. - If I have videos of the one, at one direction, if I have videos of the one-on-one concert. - Same. Same. - Even though for that one, for that one, we were fighting for our lives. - We really were fighting for our lives. - But I think I'll be fine, especially because we're not like super close, so. - Oh, then yeah, then I think, you know, how are they gonna monitor the whole, whole crowd, you know what I mean? - Yeah. - But I feel like XG always lays every song that they do. - Love them. - And I don't know how to say their name. - Quarry, quarry. - Quarry, like a Quarry keyboard, but like the, without the T, so like, quarry. - Quarry? - Quarry? - Yeah? - Quarry. - That's what I say, and I say, and queer. - So Q-W-E-R. There you go. - Queer. - Queer. - I feel like it's queer. - Queer. - Queer. - Like quirky, kind of? - Queer. - Maybe. - Maybe. - Somebody let us know how to say this name. I mean, I guess we can look it up and see. - We love an anime opening song. - But that part. - I love this. - My name is Malgin. - Okay, so I have never heard of this group. I guess they've been out for like a year or some change. - The fun? - Yeah, they have, yeah. They have been out for a year and some change. Now they're getting traction with this song. They're getting like hella wins on music shows and everything. And I literally have never, never, ever, ever heard about them. So good for them, very happy. But yeah, this song is like an anime intro. It's an anime intro, and I feel like maybe that's why it's so popular. But yeah, but it was good. The music video was weird, and it's different weird than XG where I just mentioned this was just like I was trying to figure out what was happening and things like that, you know what I mean? But yeah, but this is like very interesting. They have like a very interesting concept for most of their, like yeah, like most of their music is kind of like that weird. And I'm trying to decipher like, are they a band? Are they not a band? Like it's just so many questions. I don't have enough answers. But yeah, but the song is good. Again, it's like an anime intro. It's like, it has all of the elements to it. When I was playing it, Kat literally was just like, is this what is this anime? And I'm like, no, it's not. Is this band slash girl group slash? I don't know what they are. We can't put them in a box, sweet of them. (laughing) I was about to say, our fave, Jay Park. (laughing) We love talking shit about this band. I love it, man. Oh my God. I like the magic. This is the Jay that I like. It's a good song. It's so good. It's so good. Yeah, if you drop, give me a minute featuring Shana. And I can't talk shit. This is amazing. I can't. This was a good song. I mean, I need to go back and actually scour the lyrics, but there was no like, crazy line where I'm, where there's like, you know, ooh, girl, I love you, especially when you drop that booty low, shake it, shake it, shake it, get naked. There was no weird, like, it was like a good little R&P pop. Like, I like it. It was good. Yeah, that's why. And actually his album is really good. There's like a, there's a couple of songs that I'm like, eh, about, but that's, you know, it's a big, like, it's a long album. Like, it's so, obviously that I don't like two or three songs very normal, but, but it's actually, it's a really good album. And it reminds me of like the older Jay Park music. Like when, you know, yeah, like, moment, like, things like that. Maybe you got tired of us talking shit. He was just like, you know what? Bring it back. Take this, shut up. Okay, I'll stop doing the, check that, check that. He put, he got it out of his system, finally. Like, like, I'm so happy. Blue Jack. I'm so happy he got that shit out of his system. 'Cause I was like, 'cause what was the last one? McDonald's, Double, Big Mac. Super close. Who knows? Big Mac. Big Mac. There we go. (laughing) She's that super size. (laughing) Make Big Mac, Big Mac. I just, taken Chetta Sandwood. Yeah, basically, he was just like, "Thanks, give me dinner." (laughing) He said get nasty. Not to be confused with the McBrid. Like. (laughing) Jesus. But yeah, give me a minute. Chetta Sandwood. She killed it. Chetta Sandwood. We love her in this house. So, yeah, and he killed it. He was out here dancing and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. You know? So, yeah. Okay. So, we here, okay? We here. We love to talk trash about this man, about the same time. He got some n****s. We can talk and shit about Jay since our first pocket. Yes. We really have. Our first episode. Our first episode. Literally. Damn. (laughing) Nobody gonna listen to that episode, but. That was so funny as hell. (laughing) Yeah, all his boys tearing one bottle of soda. You like being in here, you know? That shit's still crazy to me. We've come a long way. We haven't. We had two changes sitting on the floor. Ooh. Now he got the "Girly's" in his album. 'Cause he got collabs with a cop buddy in their bubble. Yeah, literally everybody in their mom. So, Jay Park, everybody. Jay Park. We were gonna end this week like we do every week with our songs of the week. I was listening to rise happily. (laughing) For the last couple of days, but I'm not gonna put their songs on the playlist. 'Cause I don't care what people say. If you're not gonna get nothing from me anymore, but I have been listening to "Boy Next Door." Again, I mean, I am. Everybody, yeah. I'm not gonna put a play, okay? Nice guy is still that fucking song. Love it. I've also been listening to a lot of "Red Velvet." (laughing) I will say "Rookie" because it's one of the best songs ever. I'll also say "Look" by Red Velvet. Also a banger and "Automatic" because... You're right. Nice. So for me, I'm going to the HG concert. So I've been, you know, listening, getting prepared. So I'm just gonna say something A, right? Something A, right? I love that song. Let's see. What else have I been listening to? Oh, actually, "Supernova" by Espa. I'm so sorry to the Espa girlies because it first came out. I was like, "Nah, now I love this song." (laughing) It'd be like that. It'd be like that. I find that. It's happened. That's kind of me and Espa's relationship, honestly. That's just how it goes. And actually, "How Sweet" by New Genes. That's what I've been listening to. Honestly, I sound like a broken record when I say I've been listening to "Pluto" by "Extenary Heroes." Nice. I fucking love that song so much. One day, I'll see you live. And also, what else have I been listening to this week? I wanna say that that's the only song. No, I've been listening 'til I got seven. That's right. All right, guys. It's been a traumatic experience, so I had to just block it out. That's heaven. But I did. And it's because I was missing. It was missing "God 7 Hours" the other day, and I made a playlist of my favorite "God 7 Songs," which is just the whole "God 7 Songs." So... No. (laughing) We have the-- Okay, minus go higher. Okay. We have discussed that they have... A couple of songs are not good. Anyways... (laughing) So I'll say Thursday, come on. And that whole "You Are" album, because it deserves better. Thank you. That's right. Nice. You guys, you wanna know what song I listened to the other day? Which one? And it made me cry, and I said, "Who am I?" Which one? Spring day. Oh. Oh. I haven't listened to BTS since then. Same. Girl, like, it came on my, like, I was just, what was grading papers, and all of a sudden, I just hear the do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. (gasping) And I just sat there. It's like all the memories just-- Yeah, it did. What did I do? It really did. Like, I stopped. I didn't even get to fit, like, I stopped what I was doing, I didn't even finish grading this paper. And I just sat there and cried, and I was like, "What?" It'd be like that. (laughing) 'Cause that was me when-- I'm missing your face. Yeah, yeah. It's missing your face. And I was in my bed, literally, like, one a.m. Just, like, that was me today, all day, crying over, "Man, I don't even know." Oh. Crazy. Crazy how music does that to you. That's why I-- It's one of the worst thing I've ever done for my men's health. (laughing) Seriously, like, literally, Kat came home from work and I was just like, "What happened?" She's like, "I've been crying on and off about so hard." And I'm like, "Damn." And she's like, "I'm on empath." And I'm like, "Yeah, but damn." I'm an extreme empath. I don't think people understand this about me. I am like the most empath you can be. Like, I get so emotional that I'm just completely drained all the time. I can never say no to people. I'm an extreme empath. Like, it's so bad. I've acknowledged that in my life. That's just the person I am. And when I saw him walking past the funeral reefs, yes. I did go in the bathroom and have an emotional breakdown. But that's because who wouldn't as an empath as somebody who just has human empathy, why wouldn't I cry over this young boy walking past funeral reefs of people saying you should go die? Like, what? I feel bad, but it's not gonna-- I did not burst to tears. That's a wild to me. I had heart pains. Like, when I saw it, I was just like, "God." Like, my name is stomach dropped in my heart. But like, I don't know. I just-- Certain things give me insane outcomes, though. But apparently, as a leaper, as we have detachment, like, detachment issues. Yep. So-- So, seeing that's a y'all's problem, not a bad reflection on who I am as a person. I was just saying, I was like, "Yeah, that's crazy." Yeah, well, I'm an empath. An extreme empath. Do you want me to send you pictures of Jay-Man? That usually makes me feel better. [LAUGHTER] Though I love Jay-Man. [LAUGHTER] That's so much for you. Wow. Jay-Man doesn't do the same things for my heart, is it? Oh, shit. But, you know, that's my son, that's my boy. So whether you are an empath and extremely sad about this whole Senghan situation, because he deserves better as not just an idol, but as a human being, or you're doing the pretty girl mantra dance with Jenny. Make sure you always always be girl on. Bingo! We're laughing girl! What the fuck? (bell dings)