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And by the very generous benefactors you grace us on our Patreon at patreon.com/telehelppodcast including Ed Beatty Jr., Brenda Farrell, Rick Kolacki Jr., Chris Michaud, Meredith Morrissey, Rabbiitz, Spare Parts, and Neil Weinstein. Thank you. Hello everybody, how are ya? It's been a minute. I know, I'm the one that's counting the minutes. Welcome to another edition of Ask Telehell the one time in our fourth edition in five years. So the one time every couple years where you, the dedicated listeners of this show, get to ask me whatever questions you want to ask regarding things involving this show, TV, me personally, the outside world and a whole bunch of other stuff too. And if you've already heard the actual Q&A portion where you give us the questions you already know what the rules are. No politics, no trivia questions, it's not that kind of Q&A show. And the sooner we get through this, the sooner we can start planning for the future. So with that in mind, here's our first question. ♪ Get ready for some fun ♪ ♪ It's question number one, oh yeah ♪ Our first question comes to us from our good friend, Mr. Cheeseball. And it's an interesting question 'cause I never really give too much thought into statistics. Like I try to focus on the here and now when it comes to doing shows in general. But I found it interesting that he would even ask this question and that is, which network has the most programs that ended up in telehealth? Which network has the most programs? Well, before we actually get to a listing and I did actually take the time to count everything, I do want to point out the qualifications. The biggest ones is that we wouldn't include shows that are specials 'cause sometimes they're like history lessons, sometimes they're like season and review shows, sometimes they're Patreon stuff that we bring out out of the paywall and all that stuff. So those don't count. And neither do episodes involving lists, the top eight, whatever. And I kind of feel that would be a necessary qualifier just because, you know, canonically speaking, I'm just talking about straight up review episodes. So with all of that in mind, in ascending order, I guess we're going to do this in, here are all the shows that we have covered by network or at least the number of shows that we have covered by network. Dead last, we've only ever covered one syndicated TV show and that would be the most recent one that we did in January, The New Monkeys from 1987. So that's an easy one to cross off the list right there. Next in line with three shows, The WB. And I'm going to put an asterisk on that one because technically grandma got run over by a reindeer. It did air on the WB, but I believe it started out on either the Cartoon Network or on DVD first. I believe go over the history of that episode. So if you count that one, then that makes it three shows. So that's grandma, that's hype, and the dreaded superstar USA. So that's three. Next up is five shows that we covered for the UPN network. There was all of UPN November in the previous... God, how long ago was that? (laughing) It was up two years ago, actually. So it was homeboys in outer space, the mullets and Shasta McNasty making up UPN November. Then most recently in this season, the Virtual Ed Sullivan Show Special and our recent season finale, The Secret Diary of Desmond Pfeiffer. So those are the five shows that make up UPN. And from this point forward, I'm not even going to list the shows themselves. They're all up there, you know what they are. So in fourth place, we have the Fox Network with 10 shows. In third place, CBS with 20 shows. In second place, ABC with 25 shows, and that can only mean NBC is left. And NBC has indeed been responsible for more Hellfire down here than most. So 31 shows from NBC have been the target of our, I guess you could say, disaffection or something. And I guess part of the reason why we've shown a lot of attention towards NBC was because Fred Silverman is our patron saint. And, you know, we always talk about a big Fred Silverman failure that he put on for NBC. And he certainly put on our fair share of that. Like one of our first shows was Super Train. That was a huge, huge disaster. But also shows like We Got It Made and Jennifer Slept here and Manimal, all of which were part of the Tardikov era. And a bunch of other shows as well. But 31 NBC shows. That is the most programs by network that have ended up in telehealth. So thank you for your question, Mr. Cheeseball. We are going to be sending you and anybody else who's question that we use in this episode, a telehealth swag pack. And inside that swag pack, a bunch of outdated media, whether it be VHS tapes, audio cassettes, maybe a couple books here and there, some DVDs and a bunch of other things that I need to get out of my house because it is taking up a lot of space. Yard sale season was incredibly fruitful this year. Quite honestly, but unfortunately, eBay season was not as fruitful. So I wind up with a lot of overstocks. So congratulations, Mr. Cheeseball. You are getting a package on your way. So move on to question number two. ♪ I love the way you grew my number two ♪ This one comes to us from a Twitter user and yes, I am going to be keeping on calling it Twitter because well, just because I don't have to have a reason for everything. The username is that's our Bobbo, B-O-B-B-O. That's our Bobbo. And that's our Bobbo asks us, who are the two most underappreciated/ underrated SNL cast members of all time? It's hard to pick just two because the show's been on for so long. But I will say that there have been some people who were on the show for a very brief period of time that I thought left a pretty indelible impression and I wish was on the show for a lot longer. One of those cast members was somebody that we already talked about in episode 80, the Rachel Gunn RN episode. And to this day, I am still very much a fan of Christine Ebersol. That's Ebersol with an E at the end, not to be confused with Dick Ebersol, two different people. I know a lot of people think it's nepotism, but trust me, they are indeed two different people. So let's get that out of the way there. But I've always been a fan, not just of the acting that she's done, but she has one hell of a voice. And to this day is probably one of the all-time greats to ever work on Broadway. And full disclosure, a long time ago, I actually used to work in New York City and I used to work the night shift. And whenever I would walk from my workplace to Port Authority, I would pass through Broadway to cut through the Times Square traffic and the pedestrians and all that stuff. And every once in a while, I'll walk past a theater that had just emptied out for the night. And one of those theaters had this musical that was running at the time called Warpaint, which if I recall correctly was the story of Estee Lauder and Elizabeth Arden, who are two of the biggest perfume makers, or they're major names in fashion. I'm not a fashionista by any means, but that's who I believe that was about. And it started Patti LaPone and Christine Ebersol. And as luck would have it, one night, I was walking past the stage door where everybody was mobbing everybody for autographs and all that stuff. And the thing about a famous person, any famous person is that their time is as valuable as it is limited. Like, you know that you're pretty much gonna be a commoner addressing somebody higher up. So at the same time, you have this window of opportunity. It's like, do I say hello? Do I say I love your work? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, just very quickly, I just decided to bite the bullet and go for it. And I saw that Christine Ebersol was standing and autographing a bunch of play bills for everybody. And I wasn't sure what the rule was involving photo taking. I had a camera on hand, and I just, I didn't know what the protocol was, 'cause, you know, I may work in the city, but I was raised with good manners, I hope. So I just snuck like a little candid shot of her signing one of those autographs. So after I take the candid picture, I just very quickly walked by her and say, I love your work. And I thought you were great on SNL, especially that song you did about the single women. This was a song that she did in her second episode. And I'll play a clip for you right here. ♪ They go hard, they go women ♪ ♪ With a thing that's gone in line ♪ ♪ Just to make it clear the morning ♪ ♪ Looking forward, they can cry ♪ ♪ For a man you won't remember ♪ ♪ For a night you can't blow in ♪ ♪ Do you come just and open ♪ ♪ And they are like a single girl ♪ - So I mentioned this song. I say, you know, I thought you were great on SNL. I wish you would have stayed on for more than the season. I loved the single women song. And then she says to me, you remember that? And all I could do was really laugh and just say, it was that memorable to me. So it's for many reasons like that and more that Christine Ebersol is one of my favorite under-appreciated cast members. And in the same vein since you asked for two of them, another under-appreciated cast member that I thought should have done just a little bit more. Although in a sense, she did do a lot. Maybe she did some things a little too far if you know her backstory or not the backstory. But if you know what happened with her after five seasons, I gotta say it, Nora Dunn definitely deserved better on the show. - Hello, I'm Leona Helmsley, welcoming you to the Helmsley Spookhouse located atop the Helmsley Palace Hotel in Midtown Manhattan. - I thought that she was a great utility player. I thought that, you know, she can do the serious stuff, but she also had what it takes to do the funny stuff and everything else in between. She was very much a great utilitarian. And I think the utilitarian cast members are the better cast members than those that try to make themselves stand out as stars of the show and all. But, you know, it's those utilitarian people that do like the very subtle roles, but at the same time can still break out of their shell. And I thought Nora Dunn was the queen of all of that stuff, at least for the 80s anyway. And, you know, unfortunately, as the story goes, in 1990, when Andrew Dice Clay hosted the show, she protested. She did not wanna be involved in the show, or at least in that particular episode. And she just up and left. Now, the thing that people don't remember about that is that there was still another show left to go in that season, this was season 15. So after Andrew Dice Clay, there was one other show left that was hosted by Candace Bergen, and Nora came back. She was only in like two sketches or so, but she did eventually come back as if nothing happened, even though she wound up creating this firestorm just for standing up for herself and whatever she felt her rights were. And unfortunately, it was because of that that she was not a part of the show any longer after 1990. But that's unfortunate because her post-SNL career, she's definitely one of those journeyman-type actors who can fit in just about any role. She's a Swiss Army performer. Like, she can do funny things, she can play things straight, and she had this kind of versatility that I dare compare. In my apologies if this is the wrong comparison to make, but I always thought Nora Dunn was the Lorraine Newman of the 1980s, in that she did things with a lot of versatility. Like, she didn't have a signature character per se. Like, she had the Pat Stevens talk show, "Sketches." Everybody's flapping about fur these days. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Fur is murder, to clean. (audience laughing) Oh, it is, it is. It makes a nice bumper stick. She seemed like the kind of person who could do just about anything, and that left the door open for other people who felt they could do just about anything. So, I'd like to say that Nora Dunn walked so that Julia Sweeney may run. Of course, she wound up with the Pat character, but that's another tale for another day. But, yes, for my opinion. So, my two underrated SNL cast members are Christine Ebersol and Nora Dunn. And for that, we're gonna send you one of our swag packs to @ That's Our Bobbo. And I should mention that we're doing this without a script, so, if I earn 'em, you now know why. So, here we go with question number three. ♪ One, two, two ♪ ♪ Brains the invited three ♪ We've got a question from Blue Sky, yes. A friendly reminder that telehealth is on Blue Sky. Just look for telehealth podcast, and it's pretty much a carbon copy of Twitter minus the need to fan the flames over there. But, again, I digress. So, we're going to go to user Rick in Baltimore, and he asks, "Is there a show you were excited to cover?" But then, when digging into it, found that it just wasn't worth it. A few years ago, I saw one of those, the Mads are back performances. And for those who don't know what the Mads are back is, it's Trace Billio and Frank Conif of Mystery Science Theater 3000. That would be Dr. Forrester and TV's Frank. They do a live riffing show. Not unlike Riff Tracks or Cinematic Titanic or all those guys, but it is essentially those two riffing on whatever movie that they chose for the night. And they had a Q&A session. And I had a question that I asked both of them. And it was very much similar to your question, Rick in Baltimore, which is, if I recall correctly, I asked them, "Has there ever been a movie that you wanted to riff, had plans on riffing and were all ready to do but the last minute, you backed out on it?" And they didn't exactly have an answer because they kind of forged through with everything that they ever did. Nothing never really went belly up. At least to my knowledge, I don't think anything ever went belly up. And hopefully, if you ever get the chance, I want you to look for a book called The Worst We Can Find, which is a complete history of MST3K and movie riffing. It's available on Amazon, but another digression surprise. So anyway, to get to your question, I gotta say, I mean, there are a lot of things that I do still want to cover to this day. And in doing so, you gotta be able to find a number of things. I mean, you can't just throw a dart at a board and expect to pick something. I mean, sometimes you have to go through a bit of a research process. You have to go through vetting and verification and all that stuff and believe me after episode 53. That's definitely gonna be sticking to me for the rest of my life. But you kind of wonder if there are anything, if there is anything that's worth talking about for the right reasons and try to make sure that it's not worth talking about for the wrong reasons either. With that said, there is a show that I actually did kind of want to cover when Norman Lear passed away earlier last year. And it was one of his final sitcoms. In fact, it was, I think the last original sitcom that he did before, I guess, going back into the reboot world 'cause he did wind up getting involved on the new one day at a time on Netflix. But it was, I wanna say 1993 or '94, they tried to do a new '90s spin-off of all in the family. This time, the spin-off link is the house that the bunkers used to live in. And the family that occupied it tried to be like the bunkers, but at the same time, tried a little too hard to be like the bunkers. And if you get a chance to find it, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about when I say 704 Houser. (upbeat music) This was just a case of trying to catch lightning in a bottle a second time. Of course, Norman Lear has pretty much made his own career out of catching lightning in a bottle for a number of shows. But it just didn't work out. Now, I wouldn't exactly go putting this in telehealth because in spite of some things being outdated and outmoded, there are still some good things about the show that do stand up on their own merits. Even though it does try a little too hard to be preachy, it's still, you know, it is still finally remembered for what it is. And what it is is a show that lasted about four episodes before getting canceled. But again, I really didn't see anything in the show that would be worthy of scorn because you have Norman Lear behind the scenes. And whenever he's behind the scenes and on anything really, you know, he's just doing what he can. It's a little hard to explain, really. Just this seemed like a good idea for a show, but because it leaned a little too much on what made Norman Lear's other shows so popular in the first place, that it kind of debuted long in the tooth. Like it tried very hard to be its own thing, but the shadow of the previous things was cast too big, I guess is what I'm trying to say. So yeah, I guess you could say that was a show that I have wanted to cover just because I wanted to pay some kind of tribute to Norman Lear when he passed away, but you know, we still have the little tribute that we did when it happened. So I think that might be good enough. I mean, just the thing to take away from all of this, not necessarily just for this show, but any of the other shows that we vet or verify or whatever, we're not gonna review a show if it's just plain mediocre. Like it has to be something that really gets your attention in the worst possible way with some exceptions. I mean, we have done shows and TV movies, especially where, you know, that's why we have the TV movie rules about we only judge the movie and not the behind the scenes stuff. That's our only exception to the rule there. But when it comes to other shows, sitcoms, dramas, game shows, talk shows, whatever, if it's got a level of notoriety in it, we would be covering it. But 704 Houser, I mean, it was just meh. That's the long and the short of it, really. And, you know, when you start watching all the shows and seeing how meh it is, you know, at the end of the day, it's just about trying to find the right way to say this show sucks without having to be too redundant. I don't think the show sucked, but I just thought it was meh. So thank you for that, Rick. And hopefully that answers that question. So we're gonna be sending you a telehealth swag box very soon as we go now to question number four. ♪ Helloo ya, oh your hands are pretty full ♪ This one comes to us from one of our patrons and that would be Chris Michaud. Hi, Chris, how are ya? And don't worry, we are gonna be getting to your episode request in season seven very soon. And his question is, when it comes to guilty pleasure shows, are there any shows that someone might think of as a potential telehealth episode which don't make the cut because you enjoy it too much to make it a subject? In other words, I think what he's trying to ask is there a show out there that a lot of people out there hate but I happen to like. And there are a lot of those shows. Off the top of my head though, I can only really think of one because for whatever reason, this particular show has somehow found its way on many worst TV shows of all time lists and I'm kind of on the fence as to why. ♪ Where the monsters ♪ ♪ Where the monsters ♪ ♪ Are so sweet ♪ ♪ And he hears a note ♪ ♪ And we woke up with a brand new show ♪ ♪ Where the monsters ♪ ♪ Where the monsters ♪ ♪ Boogie ♪ The year is 1988 and it was definitely one of the pre-genitor years of rebooting TV shows and properties because in 1988, somebody decided to bring back the monsters. And yes, we have indeed done in episode about another kind of monster reboot but this one, the monsters today, I know the original show exists and I know that people hold the original 1960s show in a high regard. Just as sure as, I'm sure people put Mockingbird Lane from 2012 in a high regard. But for whatever reason, either because they're baby boomers that are growing up that do remember the original monsters or maybe they just didn't like the production value or something, I don't know. But for whatever reason, people just really hated the monsters today. Even though, I mean, yeah, I can think of a number of reasons why people can hate the show. But I was like, what, maybe four, five, six years old when the entirety of the show ran, but I remember liking it. I remember thinking it was funny. I liked John Shook as Herman. I like the Lee Mary weather as Lily. I wasn't quite aware of who Jason Marsden was or James Marsden was, but he did a pretty good Eddie Monster. I honestly thought the guy playing grandpa was Al Lewis but it turned out not to be. But again, when it comes to certain TV shows, sometimes it's all in the eye of the beholder. And for a show like the monsters today to get the hate that it gets is just, it's weird that people would hate a show that, I mean, obviously it's trying to be the sequel. They weren't going to get the original people back because I think Fred Nguyen was like, I mean, Fred Nguyen passed away in 1992. Theoretically, he still could have done it, but he's already had a career. So I don't think he needed to do that. And I think the rest of the cast, like, I don't know if they wound up doing it. I think give on to Carlos still did some movies and TV movies. Pretty sure Butch Patrick was involved in the comic book circuit or the convention circuit. And so was Al Lewis who was still very much alive and could have been able to do it. So I guess maybe that's where the backlash comes in, but for what it is, the monsters today, I thought was a faithful adaptation of the original. And that's all I'm going to say about that because I do want to talk about another show that I liked, but for, again, for whatever reason, this show seems to be on a lot of people's shit lists as of recently. ♪ She's a small wonder ♪ ♪ Love me and bright and soft girls ♪ ♪ She's a small wonder ♪ ♪ A child of like other girls ♪ There are people who either really, really like or really, really, really hated small wonder. I could take or leave it. Again, I was a kid when the show aired. So watching the show as a kid, you kind of have to give in to the whole thing that it's a sitcom, yes, but a sitcom rooted in fantasy, not unlike the monsters, which again, had fantastical elements, just like the Adams family. Had fantastical elements, bewitched, I dream a genie and a bunch of other shows. They have fantastical elements which allow you to suspend your disbelief, but for whatever reason, people seem to really hate small wonder for some reason and I do not understand. I enjoyed it and I still do. As cheesy as it looks with an adult perspective, it's fine, it's passable, it's comfort food, it's televised comfort food. I would not have anything bad to say about it, although I will say, maybe it just seemed a little too hammy and overacted in certain places, but if that's the only flaw that show has, then whoever hates the show really needs to come up with better flaws to come up with. With all that said though, there is one show out there that is universally, and I mean like, it is loathe among those that are fans of sitcoms. And I kinda want to save my thoughts on this for a future episode, because while I do agree that there's a lot of things that are wrong with this show, I don't think that the hatred towards this next show is warranted, 'cause if you think about it and if you know your sitcom history, it kinda needed to happen. ♪ We together ♪ ♪ We're gonna weather the odds and win ♪ ♪ Flowers they can't divide ♪ ♪ Making it side by side ♪ So not to bury the lead, but I do plan on covering "Threes a Crowd" for next season of "Tell a Hell", and the reason why I want to cover it is because I'm a fan of the show, but there's an increasing majority of people who hated the show, because it wasn't the same as "Threes Company". It only had one of the characters from "Threes Company" in a completely new setting. There were new people in it that nobody really cared for, and it was just an instant dismissal of it. That being said, if you know your British sitcom history, you will understand why there had to have been a "Threes a Crowd", and I'm just gonna leave it at that because I do wanna give "Threes a Crowd" its own episode, and I kinda wanna give the show the justice that it deserves. So for now, let's just say that too is a guilty pleasure that I like, and a lot of people don't. Thank you for your question, Chris, and yes, a "Tell a Hell" swag pack is gonna be coming your way, but you wanted a digital swag pack, so just keep an eye out on your email. We'll let you know where the Google Drive is going to show up. As we move on now to question number five. This next question comes to us from Danny Gammon Jr. on Facebook, and he asks us if you can reboot any of the past subjects on the podcast, which one would it be, and why? Now, this one actually is a simple answer because anything that I would like to go over again on a future episode would be anything that we've covered in any of our top eight lists. And in particular, way back in episode 13 from 2021, we did this show about the top eight worst dating and relationship reality shows. And part of the reason why we do shows involving lists is because there may not be enough material to cover a full episode, and there's only so much clips that you can use to help illustrate the point. And there were a number of shows on that list that kind of fell into that criteria, but at least with rudimentary knowledge and all that other stuff, you're able to at least get a miniature point across in listical form. That being said, recently somebody discovered a certain piece of Lost Media. 50 women competed a pageant to marry a mystery multi-millionaire, ending in a legal marriage. Who wants to marry a multi-millionaire? Tuesday, February 15th on Fox. You know it, you love it. The legends and rumors are true. Who wants to marry a multi-millionaire managed to find its way on YouTube? We put who wants to marry a multi-millionaire at number one on the list because it was very much the alpha and omega of bad dating/relationship shows. It has gone down in infamy as one of the worst TV shows of all time. And yet in 2021, when we were putting the list together, there was surprisingly very little footage of it that we could use to help illustrate the point. But again, in list form, that's okay because you can just condense everything into a capsule, but there's a big difference between capsuleizing something and then experiencing everything warts and all for what it's worth. Now that I know that the entire show exists out there somewhere and is still public as a press time, I think it may be a good idea to give this one another shot. So sometime, either this coming season or maybe the season after that, I don't know, but who wants to marry a multi-millionaire? You're getting annulled. So stay tuned for that. Thank you, Danny, and we're gonna send you a package. Moving on now to question number six. ♪ Gotta be quick and imminent ♪ ♪ Whoa, whoa ♪ ♪ Let's just guess ♪ So a little insider baseball for this next question and it just goes to show you how frazzled I can be sometimes. We actually recorded everything that I thought we were going to record until I remembered that, hey, we get questions through our email too. And I almost let this one slip through our fingers and thankfully and happily for the sake of editing, we can now call this our sixth question and it does come to us via email from a, and I hope I'm pronouncing this correctly, a Gregory Kowal check. Ka, wa, lak, kawalak. Okay, I just, you have no idea what happens when the microphone goes off. Anyway, he asks us a question. He actually technically asked us two questions but we're going to be honoring the first question that he asked us and that is, is there an episode you keep trying to get going that just won't come together for whatever reason? And yes, very much so. And I think this is pretty much a fact of life when it comes to podcasts in general that sometimes you have the best laid plans in mind and sometimes those plans wind up going by the wayside because certain things don't wind up working the way that you wanted them to work. And a good example I can think of about this is actually all the way back to season two because it was during season two that the pandemic happened and when the pandemic happened, there was a lot of reorganizing, there was a lot of restructuring, there was a lot of figuring out where I was going to record things. So outside factors like that kind of pushed certain shows to the back burner for a little while and eventually we would get to certain shows. Having said that, there, at least to my knowledge have been two shows, subjects that I wanted to cover during season two and we have made a passing mention to them at one point or another and part of the reason why we never got around to doing these two shows is because either of technical problems or because we make the rule for ourselves, we only do things that we have easy access to and this wasn't quite easy to access the first show that we're talking about anyway. In the second show, there were certain things that only made sense at the time. So let me just bring it back to the year 2021 to talk about the time that I wanted to cover two episodes of the long-running sitcom According to Jim. This show ran for eight years, somehow, inexplicably, either the beneficiary of good lead-ins or just pure dumb luck or the fact that ABC had nothing else to air during those eight years and there were two episodes in particular that I wanted to cover simply because there was a devil in both of those shows and he was played by Mr. Inside the Actor Studio himself, James Lipton and I kind of wanted to stay on brand with that stuff and we've been introducing elements of the actual underworld in the show throughout the years and we continue to do that and we hope to continue to do that. The only way to actually get the show was if you purchased it off of a streaming service and in this case, I punked down 199 on Google Play to get those two episodes, which, okay, that's fine and good. You possess those two episodes but then, because of something called the DMCA or Digital Millennium Copyright Act, you can purchase those episodes but you can't download them. By which I mean, you can't take the audio off of the video and that's how we usually do our reviews is because there's certain programs that I have at my disposal that takes the video and just strips out the audio, no problem. But when it comes to something that you purchase, obviously there's certain rules that you can't break. So for those reasons, that's why we were never able to get around to that or even according to Jim itself. Now, the other show that we wanted to do in season two but then we sort of backed out on for other reasons that are not of a technical issue was 1993's, the Cosby Mysteries and you may be jumping ahead of me as I explain all this stuff but in 2021, he was still in prison at the time and although it was for nefarious reasons, I've always been the kind of person to not kick somebody while they're down and when you're locked up in a situation like that, I'm not condoning anything by any means as I'm saying all this stuff by the way but why be it a dead horse, basically? So that was pretty much the one and only reason why I didn't want to cover the Cosby Mysteries and even since he's been released due to other technicalities, I still don't want to cover the Cosby Mysteries because it would just be a constant reminder that he's still very much a part of pop culture, albeit in the worst conceivable possible way. That being said, never say never. Nobody lives forever and maybe if and when that time comes, I might reconsider it but that's just two examples from one year and there have been other shows that I've been wanting to do that I have been wanting to do but again, certain things wind up getting in the way either. It's a show that only seems bad on the surface but turns out to be more mediocre than bad. There's shows that I wish I could cover except I couldn't find decent quality audio for it. There's shows that I couldn't cover because it didn't fit our format basically and there are a bunch of other things as well. On my personal computer, I have a list of things that I would eventually like to review and as a press time, I have somewhere north of about 30 subjects that I want to do but it just doesn't seem like it's the right thing to do or the right time to do it. And I could go through just about all of them but I may wind up doing them someday for whatever reasons just like I've been holding them off for whatever reason. So I hope this at least answers that because who knows what tomorrow will bring I guess is what I'm trying to say and you never know what's going to happen and you never know what's gonna be like. Another thing that winds up happening is that somebody tells me about a show and it's like, oh, I'd rather cover this than cover the other things. So sometimes certain things take a higher priority than others and at the end of the day, it's just, I guess you could say I'm being fickle when it comes to certain things. It's just sometimes there's a lot to process in the overall grand scheme of things. So that's pretty much the case in the world of podcasting. Sometimes you do have your best laid plans and sometimes there are shortcuts, there are detours. I am probably the victim of a malfunctioning GPS as we prepare ourselves for season seven in January, but hopefully that answers that or at least answers it to the best of my ability anyway. So thank you very much, Gregory. You asked for a digital goody package and we are indeed going to send you exactly that. So now let's resume the original recording already in progress. As we come to our final question for the show. (audience applauds) Yeah, yeah, yeah, the old Carnac joke, we get it. (upbeat music) This is one of our YouTube questions or at least one of the YouTube questions that we were able to verify the existence of because believe it or not, you gotta look pretty hard for an email address on some YouTube pages, but that's now the fifth time I've digressed. User by the name of QuartzQuiz333 writes in and says, "As a huge game show fan, like yourself, "I'd like to know who you'd put on your Mount Rushmore "of game show hosts." Well, that's a good question and it's nothing nefarious, thankfully, although, listen, I'm a pretty thick skin guy when it comes to certain things and certain people's pasts. So when I say that first on the list is Bob Barker, I'm only putting him on the list for his hosting ability only and also for his work doing the animal stuff. And we did a tribute to him when he passed away last year, but at the same time, you know, the lawsuits, the sexual harassment stuff, that does kind of cast a bit of a shadow, but it's hard to ignore when the good kind of outweighs the bad, so regardless of that, for the rest of this answer, I'm just gonna say I'm putting these people on here based on hosting ability only and not for anything nefarious that they did. And if they did do something nefarious, then guess what? We're all human. We all do something stupid sometimes. So Bob Barker would be first. I would put Alex Trebek, second, because he's just about the only person in the world who would ever get me to read while watching TV when I was a kid and truth be told, I did not like reading it all when I was a kid. I enjoy it very much now, but, you know, the only way I could have any attention to be caught is just watching TV and sometimes my mom will put on Jeopardy. So Alex Trebek, you are the professor and you are in the number two position. Number three, gotta go with Dick Clark because this is a guy who could host anything. Even the worst idea in the world and still make it look entertaining. And, you know, he did that with the pyramid shows, but there's a bunch of like one season wonder shows that he hosted that, you know, they did not do too well, but because Dick Clark was there, he made even the most boring of Pablam entertaining. Watch Scattergories on YouTube if you doubt the claim. So he'd be in the third position and fourth position and this is just my own personal taste of things. And again, don't wanna get too much into the personal stuff of the host themselves, but this is just based on who entertained me the most when I was younger. But God damn it, I wish Ray Combs was still with us. (upbeat music) Now Ray Combs was the host of Family Feud in the '80s and early '90s. And he to me, I think was, I don't even wanna say stereotype 'cause then that wouldn't negate things, but he was like the embodiment of your stereotypical game show host. He had fun with the contestants. He cracked jokes and made everybody laugh, you know. He was always on point. He was always on when the spotlight was on. He, you know, he got excited for people who won. I love the bit that he did for Fast Money whenever somebody scored 200 points all by themselves and they bring out the second person and ask him bogus questions. That's still a funny bit that I wish Steve Harvey would do to this day. - Tell me the kind of car you would steal if you steal out a movie. - Of course, a Porsche. What is the ugliest woman you've ever seen? - Fast. - Who is the ugliest man you've ever seen? (audience laughs) - Who is the ugliest child you've ever seen? - Who is Mary Bage? - What is your favorite, what is your favorite game show? - Let's try it around and see how you part you did. (audience cheers) - What I think the thing about Rake Holmes that I miss the most is that he seems genuine, like much more genuine than even the most seasoned veteran game show host. And, you know, family feud, you know, that was the one major show that he hosted. He did host another show for the family channel, which I think was like a family double-dare ripoff or something, but he did the best that he could with that. But, he was very genuine when he hosted the feud. And, if you ever get the chance, I've recommended this guy before for a number of different shows, but go to a YouTube channel simply known as Connor Higgins. He does the whole history of family feud. He talks about all the eras, all the people who hosted, even the rotation of hosts in the 2000s before leading up to Steve Harvey, but he does this great, great episode about Rake Holmes and all the stuff that he went through. And, I think he, it's a crying shame that he's not with us right now, because I think he would have been the heir apparent to the prices, right? If things just worked out just a little differently than before, but I don't wanna say things happen for a reason, I don't wanna say things happen because of chaos, but sometimes things happen. And, you just accept it, you move on, and you pretty much bask in all the good times that that person brought you. And, Rake Holmes is definitely one of those guys. And, he rounds out my personal Mount Rushmore of Game Show hosts. And, with apologies to Connor Higgins, who already posted this on his Rake Holmes retrospective, I feel that this is worth repeating here. Here is long-time family feud announcer, Gene Wood, expressing his feelings on behalf of all of Ray's fans. - My years of working on The Family Feud as the announcer of the show were very special for me. I met a lot of wonderful people, a lot of terrific families, and I got to work with the amazingly talented Ray Combs. Ray and I had a lot of fun together at Feud tapings. He was one of those rare people who totally cared about what he was doing. He loved what he was doing. I miss Ray a lot, and on the occasion of Thanksgiving, I realized I'm extremely thankful that I was able to know Ray Combs. To work with him, to laugh with him, he was an important part of my life. Ray had a quality that you really had to look hard to see. Behind all the bazazz and the show of business jazz and the jokes and the laughs. Behind all of that, there was a young man from Cincinnati, Ohio with an enormous heart, filled with love for people, especially children, and love for what he did. It was a pleasure being around Ray Combs because he was filled with life. Everything he did was at 110% his work and his living. - So thank you, Quartz Quiz 333 for your question. We are going to send you a package and we have one final comment, which is not so much a question or anything that I can actually send to anybody, but it's rare when we get one of these things, but we actually have a comment on Apple Podcasts. And I'd like to use this opportunity to not only thank you for the questions that you gave us, but please leave feedback. Let people know that this show exists. Let people know what's good about the show. If you wanna give me a bad rating because I talk too much, i.e. right now, it's the only way I'm gonna learn. But I actually got a new piece of Apple feedback a couple days ago, and it's from a user named In The Crease TV. The headline says, "Darn it, "now we're trying to watch all these shows." And the quote goes, "My buddy and I have been a fan "of Forgotten TV." In a few times, the reference telehealth. So we listened to the first few episodes of the most current ones, and now on those road trips, I've gone back to the beginning and just binging the first season. So great. When either of our wives out of town get together, we watch like 14 hours of TV. We watch a few episodes of Sanford and Son, couple of hours of Paul Lindungame shows. Stuff they talked about on the Gilbert Gottfried podcast, God rest his soul. But now we're adding stuff from this. Truly a fun concept. Thanks for making the drive fun, end quote. Know In The Crease TV. Thank you for finding us because Lord only knows what could have interested you during a road trip, and I'm glad that it shows us. So thank you very much for the kind comments. I wish we knew where you were, so we could send you something for being nice. And with that in mind, I've gotten down now for about 50 minutes or more, give or take the clips we had to add, so I'm getting very hoarse in the throat, so I gotta wrap this up. I will say that to those of you who's questions we've used, please expect delivery in about two to three weeks. Hopefully it doesn't get lost in the crush of the holidays or the election and please vote. Whoever it is you vote for, I don't care who you vote for, just vote, please. If you are listening in the United States, of course, but even if you're around the world and you have an election coming up, just vote then. Let's just do some quick housekeeping and say that our next program is going to take place in Thanksgiving. It is going to be the telehealth feast of Gluttony, where we're going to be listening to a couple of shows involving food commercials that have aired previously on our Patreon. Don't forget we have a Patreon @telehealthpodcast, and we also have another episode coming up in December. This is going to be our origin story show that we're, again, tentatively calling episode zero. What it is we're going to be reviewing, still going to keep under wraps. Otherwise, we will be back with season seven of Telehealth, this coming January, and even better news, I am now fully recovered from my collarbone injury, so that means I can officially say this now. Pre-production on season seven has begun. So we are writing scripts right now as we speak, and I am now exhausted because we're closing in on 10 p.m. where I am right now. It's 10 p.m. Do you know where your narrator is? That's going to do it for me. Thank you all very much, and fade to black, good night. 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