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We're a little late getting here to get started, but when we're late, we usually bring good fun surprises and that fun surprises. Gav joining us. Chris is unavailable to be with us tonight, so Gav has stepped in. We don't do this very often, Gav. You don't come on a lot of full-time match reactions. Now, you were talking to be able to solve where we used for this show and I was looking at you like your 10 heads because I use it like never. It's one of the best softwares to use because it's simple, it's quick, but it's one I'm never on because I use the other stuff for my shows when I'm hosting, so. Yeah, we'll see you next. It works real good and, Gav, you're back again, you and Gav, this is what, three shows and about single-time-out. Yeah, it probably would be bad, he is. All this is to keep me off paper, this is, that's all it is. I get the strangest feeling it's not working all that well. Not really though. Yeah, and Ashley, just us doing the regular thing, just coming on after shows, not doing preview shows and 30s at all crazy hours in the day, but another good game, another good result for the Reds and joy for us to get the talk about it. Definitely, the Reds go marching on. I saw some nice stats that were put in there, I think I saved some of them to get us started with. Spencer Stewart sharing that slot becomes the first manager since Bill Shankly to win his first three European games, and it's the first time in Liverpool's history that they have won 11 of their 12 opening games of the season, and they become the first Liverpool team to win each of their opening six away fixtures of a season. Actually, those are the stats that you live for, aren't they? Those are great. They're the kind of stats that you don't realize they're happening until years and years down away from now. We'll look back on this and be like, wow, that was a really amazing start. Yeah, I mean, Kev, you and Kev doing the preview show last night, going through lineups and whatnot like that. Not a lot of change from Arnislot. I felt that Curtis Jones could feel a little bit aggrieved to not get a start after his performance against Chelsea, but Arnislot sure seems to have a preferred 11. Yeah, yeah, me and Kev were doing the preview last night, and we were looking at the team, and I think both of us might have had Gomez in the soil, and I think one of us might have had semikas, and in midfield we were away. We went too short, and up front we were picking, I think we were picking Diaz, Nunez Salah. I think both of us did go for that, but listen, I think when I say in the lineup, I was like, lads, could we not just leave a few out here? Could we not give him a callous or a half an hour at the end? Could we not do something to give Graven Bird to rest? Trent is meant to be carrying something. Can we not do something there? But in fairness, we'll get onto a layer. I think if the game goes on, you see his management, he reverses the management of the game really. He gives people a rest where he can, and he manages some 60 onwards, but listen, that's just me and Kev, you know, doing it on a preview on what we think might happen, but he knows the badness, he's got the result, he's out of there with no injuries, and he's got a few players off the pitch to give him a little bit of a break, and we've treated him three, we're comfortable in this Champions League, and we're in good shape going into, you know, we four days now until we went to Arsenal, so listen, it wasn't the team I was expecting, but he's still going to go to win, he's used plenty of a squad, and they're ready for Arsenal, they're ready for Sunday because he fucking so badly wants to be based on Sunday. Yes, the ramp up to that can get started, I noticed in the telegrams and the WhatsApp chats that there was already before this match a lot of talk about Sunday, and it's like, hey, we've got to get a game that we've got to deal with today, and Kev, we dealt with it quite well, and I mean, I'll hold my hand up and say that I was incorrect on this, but before the match when the lineups dropped, I took a look at that attacking three from Rebel Leipzig, and was like, oof, bye. That's a dangerous look in front three of Benjamin Sesco, Chappie Simmons, and Louis Sopenda, held him in arm's length. They had to ball in there twice, and for half the body with offside in both occasions, we could be having a very different conversation. It's easy to see why in this, why he picked the starting 11 he did when you look at the highlights from the first 20 minutes of the game, we were really under the cotch for a large chunk of that first half of the first half, and it was, it was really hairy at times for, it was way too open, it was way too into it, but you have to expect that away from home against the side who are joined top on the Bundesliga, who are desperate for a result, especially with the European qualification system as it is now, they're at a situation where they have to get a result. Tonight, that result puts us in great position, but I think the result could paper over a lot of cracks that showed up in that 90 minutes, because there was, for all of the good parts of it, there were some parts that were really, really exposed, and you know, it wasn't all twinkles and buried us in that performance, far from it, there was a lot wrong with that. Geez, negative kev comes right out of the blocks here, what's, what kind of a kev, you had him up to early in the year. That's a lot of wood for wood according to Brian, that was a sport battle. Yes, that's the only thing kev's happy about to me. Raphine, the Raphine, you all just... Raphine 100. Thanks, scored early, two at first minute or something like that. Ashley, some other fun bits from the lineup, Mo Salah becomes third most European Cup appearances for Liverpool, and there was a little bit of chat in the preceding couple of days of, you know, the Mo hierarchy on the Premier League status level and approaching Thierry on re-levels, and little numbers like this obviously drive Mo Salah, but it's great to see in a testament to the greatness of Mo Salah for Liverpool. In this case, specifically in the European stage, are these up to, whatever it is, 68, 69 European appearances? Yeah, I mean, I'm glad that Spot pulled him at the end of the game to protect him for Arsenal because I think he's going to be a big player for us in that game, but yeah, I mean, you could, you could tell the difference when he's not on the pitch. You know, we definitely, he's, he's our cutting edge and he makes a lot of things happen and, you know, he, I don't know if that goal was going in today. I don't, I think it was going to go in the corner, whether or not it was going to be actually in the back of the net. I mean, it sure, it would have been another, you know, one to add to his tally, but I'm sure he has no issues handing that over to Darwin to gain a little bit of confidence. It's an assist, it's an assist, so it helps. Exactly, so it's another number, you know, it all goes toward the, the tally at the end of the day, but he, he played well. Yeah, he does love his numbers. Hopefully that number includes a two-year contract extension as well too. Gav Kevva kept taking a slightly different opinion on the game, Graham Doyle here is wondering what game he was watching that he was miles off. He might have been watching Barcelona. I mean, he could have been watching himself play seasons as well too, but one thing that I picked up because they did, it's, I think it's pretty in arguable to say that life's best spell of the game was probably the first 20 or so minutes of the game. And one of the things that I saw and noted down in there is the unbelievable levels of extremes that Trent Alexander Arnold's game hit in the first half. He had some absolutely sumptuous play, and then some just bone-headed passes and turnovers and things like that, but I feel like despite of that, his, his defending has been so much better this season. And I think in this game, there was a couple of times, what, in the fourth minute, he plays a terrible pass into the middle, he immediately goes and gets the ball back. Two minutes later, he gives the ball away, he immediately goes and gets the ball back. There's major buy-in, I feel, from all the players in terms of the defensive roles that are required that is new. First of all, Malsala should absolutely be in the conversation with regards to Harry Andre and everyone else. As a wild player in the Premier League, you know, his stats are off the wall. You know, it seems to me saying, but gigs, gigs played about for about twenty-five years in the Premier League. You know what I mean, but you give it over. Just want to put that out there if anyone wants to argue with me over Salah. I'm going to defend Kevin Bay here because I taught, it was a good performance. I think, I said, I told you, I have a positive result in our injuries and I'm giving anything. I don't, I don't care what it is, but it went in as a zar, even as a zar today. I've been absolutely following me. Do you know how to start away? On Trent, there's a few of them like that for me. Even later in the game, Van Dyke trying to hit balls into the centre of the pitch where my only low for four minutes to go. Instead of just toning and playing the back of the killer, everyone spread out me getting. And there's loads of boy-in, there's absolutely loads of boy-in, but I actually think this team, the sloppiness there, there's absolutely sloppiness there. And I actually think to come from, there's a boy-in to what we're trying to do, but then I do see hints of the Jorgen Club way coming back into them. And that's not a bad thing because the way we play was brilliant, but I think if you mix, if you mix Jorgen Club's way and in a slot way, I think you can malfunction massively in what we're trying to do. And we try go too quick, I'm not dealing that anymore. Keep it, play it, pass it, move. You see in the last couple of minutes of the game, they were chasing shadows. We were just popping around them as if to go, "You're not getting another chance in this game, but it's great to see the loads of trends with that boy-in." Yeah, he's a brilliant pass with a four-bar, he's just a brilliant four-bar. And sometimes someone will intercept the ball. Sometimes he'll go to hit something on the wrong option where he's going and winning the back. In the pass, you'll see in this team, even this season, or in clubsoids, wherever it might be, he'll lose a ball and there's panic and it'll stand off and it's, you know, teams are chill. They're walking so hard for each other. And you have to remember, and I keep saying it, we're tortying games into this man's reign as Liverpool manager, tortying games. You know, like if you let's put it in the context, we've seen teams go into World Cups and like to play seven games to win it. And you probably, and you think to yourself, four games in there only going to get in going here. This isn't, this is a team that's tortying games into what you're trying to do. It's phenomenal what to do. It really is. And people will say it's a ready-made sword. All these players, that's true. That's true. But they're being asked to do completely different things there for me, completely different things, different ways of attacking, different ways of defending, slightly different in the press. Hyline, most of the time in fairness, that's one thing that's going to stay it. But for 20 minutes, what do you expect? Loops would want to come in with the one at Troy Galace. They have got players that can hold you to an extent. And we, I think after 20 minutes, they have two shots, three shots, maybe two on target. And what's that? Were they all chances? No, when Liverpool give you a shot on goal, the chances are it's a difficult one. And I'm all right with it. We have to take everything in context, but I'm going to give a little bit. I think the world's part of that game where you're going to scratch your head gone. What are you doing here? Just keep the football and you didn't. Yeah, I'm going to come to you, Kev, to talk about the defending because you take somewhat contrary position. And that's fun. But Gabb mentioned that, you know, people are doing really good things. And that brings me on to bringing up Prakhar Singh here, doing a very good thing, giving us 500 what I'm told in the chat are Indian rupees for the charity. So big daddy YouTube takes their cut, gavel, then go and put that into our two charities, which is, of course, fan supporting food banks, the Lighthouse Cafe and Dublin. Two wonderful charities doing wonderful things, very much like Prakhar, who is getting the flowers that he deserves in the comment section for making that donation course. So thank you very much to that. Kev, one thing I feel needs to be pointed out, yeah, I thought that Ibrahima Kanate, in the first 13 minutes, he had a 1v1 against both Sesco and Openda, and he was too strong and too fast for both of them. And then in the 18th minute, he goes and does almost the exact same thing that he did against West Ham, where he should just be dealing with the ball, putting it out. He lets it bounce over his head, Kelleher doesn't get quite enough on it. And if that moment doesn't make your heart go into your throat, I don't know what will. Yeah, it was, I mean, you go back to the very start of the game, pastas lunches out for a ball that he was never getting to. And I put in the group chat, he needs to shape this off quick, and he did. For the rest of the game, castas was very good. He was defensively, he was solid, Trent, very, very good. Ibrah going back to his old club, always a big thing for any player. I thought he was brilliant. He had, they're a handful, especially Sesco. Ben Sesco is a proper player, and they cause all kinds of problems for the first 20 minutes. But a lot of it was brought out by our own, our own poor play when we were coming out. I thought they had, they played the two men midfield, and at times you're looking at it, are we being outnumbered in the middle of the park? We were playing with a three, but it was just the way they were forcing us to play our passes, and we were rushing our passes into the final third in the first 20 minutes. And that was my biggest problem with it. Some of the passing into the final third with four, and the holdup play, when it did get up to him, wasn't up to par either. But once it settled out, once we got over that first 20, 25 minutes, and they scored the offside goal. It was almost like a light switch moment, and for the rest of the half, we were completely dominant. We were on top of everything. Defensively, we decided to push up a bit further, the midfield got control, and we forced them back, and from then on, up until half time, we were completely totally dominant. And the one-nil was not a fair reflection on that second half of the first half. It should have been more. So, when I said I wasn't happy with certain aspects of it, it was the first 20 minutes of the first half, and probably the last 15 minutes of the second half. The rest that I'm fine with. But it's that not what to be expected. You go away in Europe, the Bundesliga, whether you like them or not, are you right? I'm at the top of the Bundesliga. They're joined top. They're only behind Bayern and all the problems. So, when you go away to these games, you usually go, how many times have you said it, don't go back in the way in the 4.15? Keep the title 4.15 and 20. And then the last 10.15, they're going to make changes and match it. That's what's to be expected, isn't it? No. But I think we can manage those situations better by just doing simple things. Yeah, I agree. And that's all it is. It's little tweaks for someone to see the areas of midfield, where's the space, and then play into that space. And we saw it, and the space was gakbo out on the left. And once gakbo got Gertrude of Boat, he owned him for the rest of that day until they took him out. Kevin, can you read my mind? Because that is exactly what I was going to pick up and throw towards Ashley. The 22nd minute, Kertrude takes a yellow card, taking down gakbo. And from that point on until Kertrude went off, it was get the ball to Cody gakbo and let him go against Kertrude. The other thing Kev mentioned as well too was the offside goal, which became a bit of a theme. And Kev, you mentioned it, I wrote it down the exact quote in my notes because it made me scratch my head. In the 91st minute, they're in two men are on side. It's a poor cross. They don't put the ball in the back of the net this time. It's offside again. And my commentator said, that's happened too often. What are you talking about? I'm fine if we catch them offside every single time. Like catching a team off, it is the plan. We saw it on the weekend where Kanate just didn't get that hokey, pokey foot back up in time and it played Nicholas Jackson on side for it. But Ashley, Kev mentioned Simicast. I didn't want to mention that first chance they had. I think it was in the first minute or so where he was doing Simicast things. Because I was looking for the rest of the game. I thought he was extremely good for a cost of Simicast. Let me caveat that. And he's there putting in the secondary assist, the hockey assist for what ends up being the game winning goal through Cody Gacko attacking down that left hand side again. That's a big goal for Darwin Nunes. It feels like if anybody needed a goal given to them. This is what Gabb was asking for last season. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't really matter how they go in. It doesn't matter if they were going to go in before you touch the ball. I think it was a spot that actually came out and said in his pre-match that what he wanted from Darwin was exactly the same as in the Chelsea game with the pressure and all of the off the ball stuff. And then he wanted him to score. And that's exactly what he did today. You know, by all accounts, Darwin Nunes has been learning really well. Everything that I've heard about him at the training ground is he's eager to learn. He's eager to pick up what he's doing wrong. He wants to play. And I think these last two games have been promising. I mean, I don't want to say they're indicative of what's to come. I don't know. It's not a big enough sample size, but like I've been impressed with him in the last couple of games. I think that there were a few moments today where I was worried about him keeping his temper. We'll get to the penalty. Darwin Nunes keeping his temper. Yeah, I mean, that's that's normal. I think they kind of go hand in hand. But, you know, I think that's the one thing where he just treads a very fine line between, you know, red card, not red card. Thankfully, not today. But, but yeah, I, you know, he, he played a big role in that game in the first half, especially. Yeah, and he showed his pace on a couple of situations as well, too, where he was chasing down loss causes that, you know, everybody presumes the ball is just going to run out of play for a harmless bull kick and Darwin Nunes is there to keep the ball in. Gav, we got to do it. We got to talk about the referees. I wrote down when I saw the first replay before they spoke about it in real time. That's a pen 100% of the time on Darwin Nunes. He chases the ball down. He keeps it in and, and Willy, Victor Orban, just takes him down. Yeah, it's a penalty. The simplest that. And, you know, I'm, I'm not against Darwin being that bit mental. You know, I think, do you know, funny enough, like, when you see players like that, where they're kind of effing and blind and another thing, you're kind of thinking, he's long and confident. He's frustrated. Well, when I see that from Darwin Nunes, I feel like he's, he's on it. You know, he's, he's a bit different. When you see him, when you see him for it up like that, he's on it. He's on his game. And I thought he was good again to me. And I thought he walked so hard. He created, he creates a great chance as well, for gakbo. And kind of well, not where he chases one. But yeah, look, it's a penalty kick. He bores into the box. The guy comes across, I don't think he expects Darwin to get there that quick. And he pushes the path to defend the defender clips him on the ankle. He, he felt him in the box. It doesn't matter where the bar goes. It doesn't matter. He goes past him. He clips him. He goes down to penalty. Referee doesn't give it. And I just went on to me, scores up to check what they were saying on that about it. And the comment on there was, um, the referee is toned is down, but has sent the VAR to just to be confirmed. And it's come back very, very quickly. And it's not a penalty. It's a penalty. You can't be, you cannot reach out or put your foot out towards somebody like that in the box when they're at that pace and they're gone, and they've gone past you. I think what, I think what happens with, um, the center back is, I think the center back actually thinks I can get there and halfway two partners for the realers are not getting there. I'm simply not getting there. And he clips them. And I think even the defender knows, to be honest with you, I think the defender knows. And Darwin is goes down fully expecting to turn around and the balls on the penalty spot are the referees pointing towards the penalty penalty spot. And he looks up as if to go, what is going on here? Yeah, it's an absolute penalty. There's no doubt about it. And then he books, he books McAllister in about 10, 11, 12 minutes into the game as well, where he gets in a tiny little field, goes down and he gives a book to McAllister and you're like, what's going on here? But listen, we should have expected that was, I think more than 10 or 12 minutes into the game. You're calling the know then this fellas Narai, and he should absolutely give a penalty. And if not, they should have put him to the screen and then listen, there's contact, you need to make the decision and you don't. Yeah, it's, it's such an unfortunate change because I don't know if it was the first or the second Champions League game where we had that Norwegian guy that grabbed us that I thought just did such a wonderful job. This Swiss guy really let us down on that thoughts on the goal gaps. Um, Oh, your stroke, I posted in the goal. If Darwin is leaves, I think it's going in and the and the really fall back standing behind him, clears her off the line. My God, what is Darwin is doing? He doesn't, honestly, that's the truth. And I promise you, if Darwin noon is heads that down, most of it is absolutely sticking the ball in the goal. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, 100% any stroke, any stroke or attacker, actually, you know what, any footballer should be gone. That is gone. I'm kicking that in the goal because I'm not sure it's going in. I think, I think I might be hitting the post. I think I might be hitting the post. But Darwin noon is like, you take, you take all the way over. It's dropping there. It's right there. I'm not off. So it bang. We kick it in the goal. We've discussed it later. I'm not. I'm sure Mount Salah is absolutely for him. I don't care. Mount Salah is all right with the ball drops, air strike or putter in the net. If it was the other way around, it would absolutely be solid doing it. And as well as that, Darwin noon is could leave that and there could be a defender on their way back. Just managed to get told that our boots are off over the bar or whatever. So yeah, good goal. Good to see him scoring and a bit of confidence and lash him up against the 11th center house, asking him to play on Sunday and see how he gets on. Ah, you, you didn't see our tennis says they're going to be flying committed to the game. Yeah, I've seen our Ted again for center house. Yeah, I've seen him get another motion of a Wednesday quote as I say, we'll be flying on Sunday. Don't you worry about it. We'll be flying for Liverpool. Good. Because honestly, I cannot remember a game. I can't remember, like, a game I want to win more in a long time. And it's all I like Harrison. Everyone knows other garrisons of football club, but see him are fucking despoys. So I want to win that on Sunday. But Darwin scrawn tonight, really good. I think as I knock on to his performance against Chelsea on Sunday, to see him walking really hard against me again on the score sheet, it's a good step. We don't know what way it'll go because he's mad, but it's a nice step. It's a nice progression. Yeah, Karen V says, if Nunez was offside, we'd have went mad kev. I will say that that thought that terrible thought went through my mind for just a moment because it was so far behind the line that you always worry, but it's just it's a speed. It's the same thing that should have got him the penalty. It's the same thing he showed tonight that defensive work that he's putting in for it. Give me your thoughts on the goal kev and the rest of the play in the first half. Give some words to local court boys. Well, we've been telling her. Keller was outstanding for the whole game. He virtually, by his dodgy heading ability, he had a near perfect game. But that goal, Darwin has to put that in. The only time I've ever seen someone not do it was Firmino. From any way, it's folk. Yeah, and he knew there was nobody anywhere near him. And he just stood back and let it go. I've never seen anyone else do it. If Darwin doesn't put that in, whether it's going, whether it would have gone in or not, or do it for human, because that's your job. You know, you put them all in the back of it. The work rate and running back in the harassing and the chasing and the tackling and everything else is up on us. You're there to put the ball in the back of the net, first and foremost. He deserved it. He absolutely deserved it for the performance he put in. The work rate, everything. I mean, there's the halfway knot. We had block shots. Virgil had a good header from a corner. Darwin had another header that Galashi made a really good save from. There were, in fairness, it could have really gone in too now with some of the chances. The Virgil header, I thought cost us delivery from set pieces was really good in the first half. Every corner, it seems like there was something, there was a possibility of something going on. Even when they were getting it clear, we were cleaning up and pushing them back in again. So I wasn't like, you know, when we were defending a corner, we usually get the first header on it, and we launched a counter. That never happened. It's just as well, because on the counter, they're really quick. They're really good. So we managed all of that really well. I thought the second half, the first half, was as good as I've seen us for a while. Especially Gackport on Gertrude. He took him inside, outside both ways. Gertrude didn't know what to do. And he couldn't. He couldn't go anywhere near him. He had to stand off him because of the booking. But the other thing I'd say is, well, McAllister, McAllister was foul. How the referee sees that as a booking is beyond me because he's on the blind side of it. He can't see it. He can't see it. Let Lorne be able to see it, to make a decision to book him. And when Gertrude got booked in fairness, I thought it was just a tackle. I didn't think not every foul is a yellow card. I didn't think it was a yellow card. So I think for the first half an hour, 40 minutes really, that referee seemed so card happy that I'm glad he rained it in the second half because it wasn't that kind of game. It just wasn't. It was a good game of football. It wasn't a dirty game at all. Well, yeah, I thought the second, the first half, we saw that out really well delighted with it. Yeah. Yeah, it's we can feel a little bit unlucky with the way that things shook down from the referee, just whether the occasion got to him or whatever. But if you're feeling lucky, I would direct you to words football prizes dot co dot uk where the contest is currently ongoing. 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Can cannot wait to see that, especially after how they looked in the second half yesterday, Real Madrid, but go to football prizes dot co dot uk a bunch of instant win prizes over there as well, too, or just give your money to our two charities, which I'll mention again, fan supporting food banks, the lighthouse cafe and Dublin. Ashley, I would like to stick with Kellinger before we talk generally about the second half because Liam here with a good stat, six saves tonight, uh, 0.76 XG prevented. That one's for you, Gav, seven, seven recoveries. And then you had a lovely quote in here from Arneslott, which she says, we're happy that we have two excellent goalkeepers, Allison being out this season. And last makes it even more important that you have a player like that. And I saw somebody else in their response that said this Georgian kid must be unbelievable because Kelleher was important in the second half. He made a pretty good save in the first half, a long shot from Haidara, where he gets down to his left and he saves it. A couple other routine ones, good at coming out from crosses, but they have a little spell at 71, 72 minutes where he makes a couple of saves. And Sam Tandy says his best save was the looping deflection and the offside one near the end, which wouldn't have been offside if the initial shot went in. He's got to be the second best, like the best number two goalkeeper in the league. Somebody else, I think it was you that said he'd start for 80% of Premier League teams. And after the hype of Vikario wore off quickly last season, he's a he would start for Spurs. I think like he is an excellent goal. Yeah, I mean, I think he'd easily like outside of Man City, maybe Villa, like who else wouldn't you choose to replace him? I mean, I don't I don't personally want him to go to Chelsea, but I think he'd be a big upgrade for Chelsea. I think he'd be a big upgrade for Man United. I think he'd be an upgrade for Spurs. I mean, that's maybe he'd upgrade on David Ryan. Possibly, quite possibly. I mean, I feel like maybe there's rose tinted glasses there, but there's easily some top six teams that I think that he would slide right into and be an improvement. And I'm just so glad that the club had the foresight to keep him around. Because if we had, I mean, I don't I don't have a sample size on Jarrows. I mean, he's looked good so far, but if we had to have him step in for this chunk of time and play, I don't know, maybe Real Madrid, like, I'd be nervous as hell. I don't know about you. But Kelleher, I mean, I said it before, when he initially comes in, I do get a little nervous. And then he plays a few games and I'm like, wow, like, holy shit, where's this guy been? And I forgot how good he was. And I'm getting those vibes again. And I'm like, he's fantastic. I think 71 minutes the cesco shot was the one he saved. Then he saved a C-mon shot. 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But the early solidity that he provides at the back, and this isn't even talking about his ball playing ability, which I'm sure his touch map would be wonderful, like his passing network and whatnot like that. A lot of ball went through him, but he's there to make the saves. You need him to make. And then, like, yeah, I completely agreed with it. I think it's Sam Canny that said that, like, gab, that it's a bit camera the save he makes jumping backwards with the fist to tip the ball out. But if he doesn't make it, you know, we're having conversations with would Allison save that? But we just we don't have to worry about it. We can let Allison get better in his own time. We don't need to rush back our number one goalkeeper. And then hopefully we've got Allison to ride us into a triumphant spring. Yeah, look, Kelly keeps the ball over there. That's what he's there for. And I don't care if it's for a camera or a knock camera. And you have to remember, a lot of the saves Allison makes, could be considered camera saves, but they're just not because it's Allison. And he's like, literally, I think he's one and a half steps ahead of every goalkeeper in the world, because he's that quick for his feet. He's that good with him. I, it's funny, Taurus is there on screen of Kelly holding this, you wouldn't go under the radar much. If Kelly's English, he's in, he's in, he's in golfing 100%, whatever, shadow of a deal, he's a bad goalkeeper and Jordan Pickford. He's, I think, Pope is a really, really good goalkeeper, put it like his feet are only there for standing on, not for kicking the ball. And then I think Kelly has, has, he has everything. He's a really good shot stopper. He commands his box. He's, you know, left a Roy. He's down saving things. He's really good with his feet. He's confident. He's calm. Like, I don't even, I don't even look twice when he's on the team. She, I genuinely don't. I don't look and go all calories and go with it. I don't. Honestly, I think, I think you put him and go for Allison. You wouldn't feel any different to that with Raya. And that's me giving a bit of credit to that with Raya after a really shaky start for Allison and with the whole Ramsdale stuff. I genuinely don't need to be any difference. So that's, you know, I think he, you could possibly put him in the Arsenal soil, but I've no problem if you want to say that with Raya. But he's definitely better than the sports father. He's 100% better than you know, he's better than the Chelsea father. You know, I, I think actually he's right. I think, I think Edison, Allison, Martinez, and possibly Raya. And I think after that, I don't think he's about to go keep in the league. And that's a really, a right moment. People are saying, you know, what he wore, what he did, what he that, um, honestly, he's, um, he's put a lot of money. It's just that the market for go keepers, I don't think is there unless you're selling to someone in England, you know, um, he's made some good saves tonight. He's the biggest compliment I give to me is he's on the teams. You know, don't worry about it. And people are saying this Jordan fella must be brilliant. He must be. He must be because it's not real for trading them. And you will presume Allison's gonna stay for another season. Maybe he will. Maybe he won't. I think I'm not too sure, right? But honestly, Kelleher has to go somewhere. I'd be very surprised that Kelleher leaves the football club and isn't playing champions in the football. I think that's his value. That's, that's where he is. And that's where he should be. And I'm not talking about a team that, you know, a bit like a villain now that have made the Champions League. And really they were again, I'm talking about a team that's in the Champions League all the time. Because that's how highly I reign. And I'm at the stage that if I lost Allison, I'm not saying Kelleher is as good as Allison, but we lost Allison and he said he's not playing for the rest of the season. Or he's going to leave the football club in May. If he's home equating, Kelleher was going to be Liverpool's goalkeeper. I'd have no problem whatsoever. And I don't see why anybody should. He's never let them down. He's never let them down. He's made some big saves. He's won, he's won Trove. He's with them. He's so, so good. And I think the reason he probably hasn't been Liverpool is because they value him so highly and people don't want to pay it. But if I'm a team, that's fifth, sixth, seventh, all the time in the league. I want to push on and get into a Champions League. And I want the really, really top goalkeeper. I'm signing Quivy in Kelleher. It's a signing under the radar in terms of who's right around the world. But I think he's just a massive, he's a massive asset to anyone that has him. And luckily we have him. Yeah, it's, you just everything about it. I had to share this comment from Matt Jappell. It's just Martinez is good, but he's an irritating gobshite. And Kelleher is understated. And I'm not sure which one of you that has control of the talking cop account put the comment in of, like, look at Matt Jappell, the resident English teacher with the proper accent over the vowel and everything like that. It wasn't me. That was me. I didn't know it was all about that. But I noticed most people, yeah, most people forget them when they're when I see Quivy written or typed. So yeah, no, it was nice to see it. Fair play to Matt Jappell because whenever you try and do the little father or accent or whatever you want to call it over the father being the artist's boyfriend and being over the thing, you're going to like, and control alt holes and hold the fucking answer. Give me our flight. Yeah, look, you literally look like you don't know what you are on the phone where you just hold the letter down and all the accent. All the bits. Yeah. My favorite is the two circles above it. Exactly. So it's, I'm very happy to see though, there's a ton of comments in here about people just raving about Kelleher and it's, it's, he does, he does deserve a lot of credit. Sam Handy though, Klopp also deserves a lot of credit in how he treated Kelleher, giving him the cup finals, et cetera. All that has helped him massively and also kept him at the club. Like that's an understated bit that Madge was talking about. Understated is a good word, though, Kev, because it's a, it's a description of our second half of the game. Controlling, dominating would be two other ones that were used. And I know you're giving me that, but just we'll get onto the, we'll get onto the flurry the final 10, 15 minutes of the match. From 45 up until about 85, they didn't really, I mean that the tiny flurry there that we talked about making the two saves. Other than that, we really controlled the game and I, I want to see it. I thought I had them, I thought I had them float second half. It was, so both sides were, we were cautious. They changed as well. Technically, they went, you'll notice in the first half that we're pressing with four in the second half, they changed it to a front three and they dropped an extra man into midfield, made it a little bit more difficult to find Gravenberg at times. So we had to play around the back a bit more to get the ball in to Gravenberg. So it was kind of more of a tactical battle in the second half. I mean, the second half did eight shots three on target. We had 10 before on target. It was, but, you know, it was just one of them. One nil is a horrible scoring. I just kept having visions that that penalty show is going to cost us because they're good enough to create a good chance and they created two good chances. So it's like, you're, away in Europe, you're going to have to ride your look at times and we did a bit, you know, it was, we could have brought problems onto ourselves with some of the passing, some of the decision making, but ultimately the second half, wouldn't say it petered out, but I thought we were managing time a lot. Yes. You know, we held the ball and it wasn't the case like we were, we have to go and score. We were managing our way up the pitch slowly and more important was keep the ball and just keep it simple. And that was fine, you know, but one mistake and they're in. So you're living, at one nil, you're living on a knife edge. We really didn't need that. I felt we needed that second goal, but in all fairness, he made the changes, I'd say that he wanted to make. Didn't he, he could have made one more, he made four changes in total. Yeah, we made, we made four out of five, they made all five. Yeah, I think ideally if we'd have got the second goal, he'd have made the other change and maybe brought in the one from a Callister, but as it stood, it's like the players that came in did well, that's all in the main. But it was just about getting the job done the second half and the longer it went on, it became more and more about that, get the job done, get the results, because that's nine from nine there. There's only two sides in this whole competition that are unbeked and awesome villa, you know, and they can come out with people can come out with excuses. Oh, look, you've played nobody, doesn't it? Played AC Milan, played Bologna, and played Leipzig away. They're three tough games. I don't care what anyone says, they're games that you have to go and get earn your wins against. And we've done that. And the best thing is we've done it and no injuries. And we've managed to rest a couple as well. So it was the best of all worlds really for tonight. Yeah, it ends up, I mean, you can always say it obviously hindsight being 2020 and whatnot and all the cliches. But when you when you come away with the one-nil victory, you can be happy about how that second half went. And that's the mindset that I subscribe to. Ashley, Kev said, keep it simple. And Karen B reminds him that in the 69th minute, we did not keep it simple when you just will some balls to go in the net. And the couple of touches that McAllister and Sabo slide played to each other around the edge of their box is outrageous football. And it's like, just go in, just bar down in just just be a goal. It's one of those times in football where like, because like I've said, it was kind of arm's length, controlling them, you know, managing time and all those things. But then there was a few moments, even late in the game, where we got close to the box. And it was maybe what Gab was saying, where that old clock style comes back in, where it's like, fuck it, just go for it to help with keeping the ball and managing time. Like, let's go get another goal right here. That was one of those ones for me where it was like, ah, because I thought McAllister and Sabo slide both had pretty good games. Yeah, I mean, you know how sometimes I feel like it's in the big games that they have the camera that's on the pulley system? I feel like that was one of those plays where you needed the sky cam right above that to kind of even know what was going on, because it was so intricate. And it was so precise. And I think it hit the bar. Did it hit the bar? I guess. Yeah, they did. Yeah. It was it was so nearly. I mean, it goes on to that list of there's an endless list of like, nearly perfect Liverpool goals that didn't go in. But that's one of them. It probably won't be remembered, but it is one of them. And I think, yeah, they did have good games. I think that I think that the three of them just compliment each other really well. You know, I don't know if any one of the three had like an absolute standout game, but they just sort of like where one is lacking the other picks up and that's where their strength is and vice versa. And, you know, like even Sabo's like who I think has been getting a lot of unnecessary like critique on social medias. And I don't really know why, but I've seen a lot of people going hard on solve his life recently. And I like, I thought he had a good game. I thought him and Kanate going back to their old club, both of them looked like they had a good game. I don't know. Can you guys illuminate a little bit as to why he's getting so much shit on social media? Because I can, because it came to me in the chat before the game, Gav. And I'll come to you on this. Somebody was talking about the stick that saw the size getting it. You know, he's doing the dirty work and the stuff you don't really care about and stuff like that. And it gives me such a stench of the criticism that Jordan Henderson got. And if Dominic Sobosai can be a Jordan Henderson region for Liverpool, I will take that every single day. Because I think he's a more naturally talented footballer as well too. But if he's going to be doing, because it is hard to see it, like, you've been, you've been there to see him live and see how he presses the ball and functions in that attacking team, which is something that is almost impossible to pick up when you're watching it on TV. But I get the feeling that he's clearly doing something right. Because how does Curtis Jones not get a show in that number 10 birth? How does Alexis McAllister not get a show up there? Like, am I off on that Henderson thing? Like Henderson with smaller feet and better hair? No, Henderson plays in the midfield where he's deeper than Sobosai for the majority of the game. When we have the ball, you know. But the funny thing is, he's down as this 10 for Liverpool, right? And he's the most, honestly, he's the most, how do I even put this? If you start Liverpool's midfield, right, and you have Graven virtue of McAllister and you've Sobosai. Sobosai is actually the one that is the toward point in the triangle that plays around with the ball, like with it, with a salad or a trend. And I have seen this love in front of me and watch that when this is madness. And it's actually McAllister, like it's in the box mall, right? Because he's actually like a lot of people users were the conduit between a lot of what we do. So if you're watching, if you're watching Liverpool when they're playing, Don McSobb is like, well, run past their newness to press, and he'll say to newness, you go and stand on that number six over there, I'm going to press this guy, and Diaz and Salah are going to push up and help. And you're going to stay behind me. It must be because of the distance he can run, the physicality. I don't know what it is, but it is something to do. But when they're attacking them, look at the gold, you don't know. Look at the gold against Chelsea. Don McSobb is like gets the ball in what you would consider a 10 position. He slides it outside the salad, right? And no, he slides it outside the salad. Salah takes a touch inside and Sobosai makes this run down inside Roy. When you think a 10 will head for the middle of the box, and who's coming around the back of the forward, let's go to Shaun's, who's in the McAllister role in the team. So when people think he's a 10, he starts in that position. Well, why he actually does in that position? It's so far away from our number 10, though, it's mad. And that's what you have to take into context. When you go much on the line of the amount of running he does chasing, how physically he is, he wins the ball back so much, and he just gives these little passes to get people going. He's literally like, it's like they've taken a defensive midfielder and stuck with 24 yards from gold and said, listen, when you get it, he has all the attributes to shoot and score. It's not a little better. And that won't come. But honestly, when you're watching playing, he's the one that drops out and says, Roy, I'll get Trent and Morgan on here and I'll get one of them in behind, or again, behind myself. But he's not down the middle of the pitch 10. He's not the guy playing off the units, looking to score and assist. He's not Jared or Torres. That's the best way I can put it. He's simply not that. He's the man that's making everything link together, but he's linking it further up the pitch. It's a weird thing to watch, but I know exactly where it's at. And that's why I'm not too pushed on the amount of the goals and assists he has, because he's actually doing an awful lot of stuff to help with people getting goals and assists. So I'm not worried about it at all. He's had a really good start at the season. The only slower problem is there is times where you go, just shoot. Make just shoot, because in five minutes, you're going to get the bottom of the exact same position. And if you've shot four minutes, four minutes ago, and you've scored, shoot again. If you haven't scored, give it what? There's no problem. There is times where he should shoot, but I think it's getting bashed into him so much that he has to be, I have to slow this ball here. I have to slow that ball there. Sometimes if he gets the shoot, but honestly, he's an excellent footballer, absolutely excellent. And we can't have 11 creative monsters in the team that just want to be there to create. We have full bucks that they were. We've graphed them back to the six that doesn't. We've McCallister that doesn't. We've known as we've jotted, we've Henderson is what you're saying. Well, I think he's about a player in Henderson. I think he's more attributes than Henderson, but I wouldn't trust Henderson to be in that position where he is. But I probably wouldn't trust some of the way they have something. Do you get me? You trust the 1314 Henderson there, though, wouldn't you? Because 1314 Henderson was a runner. He was an absolute runner. Yeah, absolutely. But he still caught shit just about every other week when he was a career, because he was just... But what I'm saying is I wouldn't trust Henderson to go in and do Sabo's on his job now, because I don't think he picks the right passes at times. But I wouldn't trust Sabo's like to go back and play Henderson's eight. You know, of 1920 or 1890. That's just the way they're just different players. They're just different players. And he's still learning. I keep coming back to it. He's tortying games in lots. Do you know what I mean? If you go to work for tortying days, you don't know everything about your job. You really don't. The other thing about him is people will watch him playing for Hungary, and he'll play as an insight forward in a front three. And he'll watch and then come back to Liverpool, and he's doing... It's almost like the water carrier role, where he'll do the work. But you know that he's got the quality in between his ears to do a hell of a lot more than that as well. People look at a number 10 position, they immediately think, "Well, that's David Silva. That's Phil Fulton, Bernardo Silva." That kind of... In fairness, I think Bernardo Silva is probably the one player you could look at and say, "That's who he could end up modeling his game on. Someone who can do a job in the wing if you need him to." When you put him in the middle of the park, you won't notice him, but the player has noticed the work that he does. And then all of a sudden he'll pop up with a pass, or he'll pop up with a cross, or an intricate play, or that ball roll tonight from a callister. He's got that in his locker, as well as the other stuff. Jeannie Winaldum, to me, is the one player that is similar. Jeannie could do everything. He could do that forward getting into the box. He could do the ugly side of it as well. And if he turns out to be anything like the Jeannie Winaldum that we had, I'll be delighted with him. And again, he's learning the role. But do you know what we see here? We see like Silva's Loy being in that position. We've seen the vast majority of McAllister being in a certain position, and Graven Birch, and never present in the toward park. But if they rest, if they rest a McAllister, right? Or Andy decided to put Silva's Loy back in to McAllister's role, and he put it in say an earlier, right? Or a John. So I think they'll actually stick John's around McAllister's. But if it came to the point where Sub as Loy had to move back into that McAllister role, and somebody had to go into the Sub as Loy role and say it was an earlier for Agman's sake, I think you'll see Sub as Loy in the box and off a lot more. I think and then you could say he's not taking the chance to get because just the next time you're watching Liverpool, right? Watch the amount of times that Sub as Loy is used to manipulate situations and, you know, overload on both sides of the pitch, and then watch where McAllister is. Watch, watch, watch the goal against Bologna. In fairness, they play, play, they put it in the box and there's McAllister breaking in into the box. He's meant to be back in the field. That literally addresses John as point there, saying that Slata said he wants Sub as Loy to score more goals. Well, if that were true, Sub as Loy would be the one making the ones to get into the box. McAllister would be the one outside doing the overloads and the wings. He's not. I mean, trust your eyes. If it was a case that Slata wanted him to be more involved in the box, he would be the one arriving into the box and off a lot more than what he is. He just isn't. I think when Slata makes that comment, he does make that comment about Sub as Loy. He wants him to get more goals and he wants him to get more assists. Part of that is saying to Sub as Loy, you've had the chances, you know, and he did have a couple of chances to shoot. Part of it for me is I'm saying, eventually, I want this is what I want to get out with this player. But right now, it's still a walk in motion. It's still something that I'm building. I don't deal with that when they get this right and they get it to where they want it to get it to. They will want Dominic Sub as Loy being a bit more progressive. They will want them breaking into the box a bit more. But right now, to start everybody off, I think he becomes the extra man outside the box. To keep that ball and rotate the ball and recycle the ball. I think that's what his role is at the moment. And part of it is sometimes just fucking shoot. You know what I mean? It's okay. You don't have to keep it all the time. I think the big thing on Slata is that if the ball goes in the box and it comes back out, don't be just lashing it back in. Let's recycle and see where we can go. But overall, like we're sitting here, we're nitpicking over a player. The right thing is what Slata can have for the team. And probably he's definitely put the team before his own outlook on the way he wants to play football. And we're 12 wins from Tour Deane, I think, at the start of the season. So, you know, if we get to Sunday and his tier three chances from the outside of the box to shoot, and he doesn't hit one, then he can kind of go, what's he not doing? Well, he's in a shooting, but he's doing so much right for me. It's I love how into the Arsenal game you are already. You keep already giving us that win against Arsenal. We've won 11 out of 12, but you're saying 12 out of 13. Come back. Come back. Is it 12 games we played? Is it? Yeah, three of the channels. One of the titles. I never know. 12. Yeah. I mean, I don't argue with as the challenge. Slata. Slata. Slata first win as well as 12 games in charge in all competitions in English top flight history. But the other conversation that was going on there in the chat, well, Sobelsai was being talked about actually is, you know, in terms of injuries, you're always worried about losing people. But we will have somebody coming back whose name is going to be thrust into this Dominic Sobelsai position conversation in Harvey Elliott. And that's an exciting proposition, isn't it? You kind of forget about Harvey Elliott. It's been out for a little while. Yeah. I mean, he was great in preseason. I think he's going to be great for us again. I think he's going to be a great option. You know, we're talking about Sobelsai being this engine, being this kind of facilitator, I think, which maybe isn't as glamorous as some of the other roles in our midfield. It might be a little bit harder for the average viewer to see exactly what he's contributing. It's hard for me to see what he's contributing sometimes because I think a lot of times he's letting other players shine because he's doing that donkey work. You know, I think Elliott can do that. But I think Elliott might be a good option for when we need that more kind of intricate on the box passing or that kind of penetrative thing. I mean, that was Elliott's big, you know, like stats thing last year was he was a great, like last last ball kind of penetrating action guy. I forget what the terminology is. I'm just going to go with that. Ghost assistant. Is that what you're looking for or something on them once? I think we can have both and if SWAT has that kind of as an option to look at his opponent and be like, well, this is what I want from my 10 or this is what I want from my other 10. I don't even know if he's a true 10. I mean, do are we calling him a true 10? Is that what we're doing? No, I don't think more like a day and a half. I think so. But yeah, getting him back. The more rotation that midfields better, I'm surprised that Endo didn't come on at all today. I think, you know, we did we did well with what we had, but I think having we're going to have to be careful managing their minutes as they go. And that goes with everyone. I'm surprised there was not quite as much rotation today. You know, I think that we saw we saw a lot of like pre planned substitutions as the game went on. But we're getting to the point in the season with a lot of these games coming up that, you know, the more the merrier in terms of players on the bench because there's a there's a few too many injuries for injuries like or for a backroom staff that was supposed to be preventing injuries. I'm starting to feel like, I don't know, they're popping up again. And I don't think there's any way that you can prevent them from happening. I think that that's just the nature of the beast. And I think a lot of times international breaks bring those on. But it is something that's like starting to kind of go off in the back of my mind. I mean, we don't have that many injuries. Arsenal, they talked about it on Sky Sports, they had to put a second screen in to show all of the day, just this incredible number of injuries there. Before I come to the two fellows to ask them who their man of the match was because you went early with Kelleher. Ashley, you got any, you got any big thoughts or feelings about how Liverpool managed the one meal lead in the second. It felt a little bit reminiscent of the title winning season where I think there were games where we were not that exciting, but we did just grind out wins. And, and this felt very much like that where, you know, we weren't taking any high risk passes. There were a few times actually toward the end of the game where there were shots being taken on at like the 93rd or 94th minute where I'm like, just go to the corner. Just please continue to go. That was, that was Andy Robertson at exactly 94 minutes. Why are you shooting? Why? Him and Diaz to be fair, both of them got a little bit of blame in my mind. But, you know, I think it's great to see. I think that this is what we were calling for all of last season. All we wanted was just hold onto a one goal lead and don't go behind and, you know, keep control of the game. And I think like there, there have been very clear tactical switches in what Slott's trying to do. But I guess kind of big picture, it's great to see that we can take a team that was nearly, nearly there, make some tweaks. And all of a sudden we're seeing all these things that we wanted to see. And it's, I don't know, it's just very refreshing for me to like go from a whole season where you're longing for that control and then finally seeing it implemented on the pitch. Yeah, I couldn't, couldn't agree more. Gab, I want, I want to know who's the man of the match from you, but Ashley gave a very good segue for me there. One of the seveners pointed it out on WhatsApp that I think we've got a really good manager. Like, I think this fucking Arnold Slott guy that we've got, I think he's clever as shit. Yeah, I think, I said on, I said on Sunday night show, I think the way we won the game on Sunday was really impressive. It was a different way of winning a football game. It was different for me to a lot of the games we played this season. You know, a lot of the games we played this season, we've, we've controlled a lot of the ball. And we've, when we, when we felt under threat, we've taken any sort of encouragement away, you're any sort of momentum away from teams. And Sunday was a bit different where we went. Yeah, you're a threat. But what we'll do was we'll, we'll still be a massive threat to you by, by controlling the game, where I will have in the ball. You know, it might be, it might be the first game this season where we, we don't have as much of the ball as you let him, I think that I might be right in that, but I felt that way on Sunday tonight when I, every time I watch the ball, I just keep thinking how far we are into this process. But again, he comes out there, they, they weathered the 20, they take control. They should be tilling up a half time. If they're tilling up a half time, there's no problem. Second half, he makes the changes, looking forward, looking forward to the game at the weekend. And I'm absolutely fine with that. And I think, you know, people are banging on about the off soy goals and stuff, but Liverpool have done that for years, like years Liverpool have done that for like, it's not a thing where we're doing the last eight months or 16, 15, 16, 18 months, we're literally doing it years, where we keep that low and bang on straight. And if you're a toe over, you're getting caught. And I think the main thing for me tonight was in managing the game was our own sloppiness. If you look at where where the chances come from, it's us giving the ball away or making silly decisions on the ball that leads to 20 seconds later, they're having a chance. So that can, that can absolutely improve. It's not really a variable. We've managed again. Mind of the match is a difficult one. I do think mind of the match is a difficult one. I really like court is challenging to come on. But I don't think I give it to him for 25 minutes. Do you know what? Listen in. Starbucks, it's a great day for coffee. It feels like you can get your credit scores anywhere these days. Random websites, card statements, budgeting apps, heck even your dog might bark out a few numbers. It's true. Credit Karma isn't the only place you can find them, but we actually do more with your scores to help you find your next financial opportunity, like a more rewarding credit card, a game plan that helps you pay down debt faster, or a person alone to help you save more on interest payments each month. Cha-ching! The possibilities are kind of endless. Download into it Credit Karma today to get started. This episode is brought to you by CarMax. Boldly searching for your next used vehicle? With CarMax, you don't have to settle on anything when it comes to your ride. Instead, steer clear of the ordinary and buy the car that's right for you. Because CarMax makes it easy to stop settling and find the car you'll love today. Start shopping now at CarMax.com. CarMax, the way car buying should be. I don't know if he's mounted the match, but I really liked Simicasa's performance today. I think Barry the fourth minute I told he was sound. He won his battles when he needed to. He passed the well. His corners are a real, real trick. I really liked him tonight, so I don't know. Was he mounted the match? Yeah, okay. Yeah, Simicasa's mounted the match for me. I'll take it. I'll take it. He provided a lot of extra overlap and underlap help. He got the official. He got the official amount of the match award. Did he? Really? He read your comment there from Ashley. He did. Yeah, he said, you know, you know this game. Who did you like for man of the match? I agree with Ashley 100%. Keller was the best player on the pitch. In fairness, I think the two goalkeepers were the two best players on the pitch. Yeah. Glass, he made some unbelievable saves tonight. He did. He did. But Keller saves her better. And that one save with the looping ball that you see so many times make keepers look stupid with if their footwork isn't 100% right. And he was brilliant. If I was going in an honorable mention, we call it gakpa, definitely looks so much more comfortable on the left wing, because when he went through the middle, slop changed him back out into the win really quickly and put Diaz through the middle at the end. But I thought Corey gakpa was very good. Just to find his selection, done a real job. A real no-brainer through that. But yeah, those two for me. Yeah. I'm going to go with North will rise again and stick Blomanderson that both said Kanate. I thought Kanate was was quite solid tonight. Somebody else here said he had a couple of sloppy passes. Somebody in here said he had a couple of sloppy passes. Here in Karen said he had a couple of sloppy passes, but I felt like he also gab mentioned Van Dyke having a good clearing header. Kanate had another couple of those and he is quietly. If it wasn't for most solid doing most solid things, Lewis Diaz coming back from the Copa America absolutely on fire. Ryan Grabberts being a completely renewed player under Arnes Lott. I would say Ibu Kanate has been our player of the season so far for the first 12 games. And that's including him pretty much just throwing the ball into Arnes against West Ham as well. Wolves. Are you talking about the wolves? Games we won. Games we won. Wolves, West Ham, it doesn't matter. They're all. Is it the one where he doesn't clear the ball? Yeah. Because you've said West Ham twice now and I've said wolves. And you've ignored me twice. And I'm like please, please put on the record of the wolves. You're not even supposed to be arbitrary here. No, no, I'm not meant to be here. I knew a defender fucked up for West Ham and I just didn't flip back through my notebooks. It was Kwanzaa got an own goal off of Indo and whatnot. You need to digitize their notes? Yes, I'm not. There's no view in the world that can read my handwriting. I'll tell you that right now. But it's just I was surprised to see him start. I thought Kwanzaa would get the nod over one of Van Dyke or Kanate and it almost certainly would have been Kanate. So I was surprised to see him start. But he he's a physical beast. That would be really bad. The one thing I want to say about you were being accused of being asleep about 20 minutes ago. Yeah, I know because I have this thing where I look down on my phone I look like I'm just not paying any attention. I have a massive soil in this problem here at the minute. Sorry, go on. Everyone is sick. On Kanate. The fact that now he looks like he's going to be France's mainstay centre back. The confidence he's going to get from that. And he's the fact that he's had the armband for France as well. It's going to see him going forward. You talk about confidence. He went into a France training session wearing some sort of zipped up leather bag over his face. If you don't have confidence, you're never getting out of that car wearing that whole face. I wouldn't do that either. Ashley says this is a good name for a podcast. Old man shouts at wolves. That's if there's any wolves fan podcast that need a new name, that's that is an absolute absolute banger for you. But now we've gone through. We've digested it. We've come away from each Germany with a one-nil victory. We had flying down to London whenever that is. And Ashley, it's it's time to focus on the big one. All the talk of haven't played anybody yet is slowly dissipating, but all of that is completely gone. Come this weekend. I cannot wait. I cannot wait. I'm sure Gavin's got some sort of preview shows lined up, but I'll be there for the post match show. I'm sure you will as well too. Liverpool going to the Emirates. It's going to be great, guys. I mean, we talked about building up ahead of steam, building up some momentum for this run of games that we're on. Like, these are two big steps that we've taken on this journey. I mean, this was our part one away seed. So this was theoretically our hardest game. I mean, I think that we would all argue that it's going to be the real Madrid game, but on paper, this was meant to be our hardest game. So getting that out of the way, getting Chelsea out of the way, proving to all the people on the internet and the media that we haven't played anyone yet. I don't know how many games we have to actually play a good game. All of them. Yeah, probably. You know, but like, let's hope that Arsenal is another one that we can chalk off this weekend. I mean, they have already started with all of the media. It is a full fledged Arsenal injury crisis attack. I put something in our telegram today. I don't remember ever seeing graphics going out about like our injury crisis over the last couple of years. We were missing like a whole starting 11 prior to that cup game versus Chelsea. And I don't remember seeing graphics pasted and Sky Sports had every single Arsenal defender, including Tommy Yasu and Tierney, who I don't have played at all this year. I thought Tierney was all alone again. It was part of this massive like injury army that they had. And I don't know. I mean, whatever, they're obviously going to do what they're going to do. They're London's media darlings. But I would just love to be able to go in silence all those critics. That's it's a two horse race, but like we're coming around the outside band on one of Brian O'Sullivan's dairy cattle or something like that. He was shouting them today. I know how much lighter they are. They're not produced just milk anymore. So they're just like tells the size of like fucking sulphur's just rubbing down cows. The little deer McGincy says whatever happens, Arsenal are going to blame the ref for being a Liverpool fan or being biased against them. But I knew Gabb, if we talked about it for just a little bit, somebody would agree with me. Sam Tandy says, I got a weird feeling we could hammer them on Sunday. Listen, when it comes down to Sunday, you know, I actually hit an end on the head there like, I know I don't watch Sky Sports News because I just think it's a ball. The stories they put up, and more importantly, the people they have on there is just place. You know what I mean? I'd be better off going and talking to a wall over there, and I get more sense over and then more entertainment. Look, I actually are throwing out this thing, and it is I was throwing out this thing that the massive injuries, and I couldn't have went. Yeah, but like we probably have Allison and Jotty over 14. They probably have Sake all the guard and sleep. That's probably it with a actual 4th 11th, and people will make, you know, arguments around this parent up there. Listen, at the end of the day, I tell everybody has them all fit. He picks the same 11th, and Saliba's in it, Sake's in it, and all the guard is in it. Don't think all the guard will make it. I think Sake will. I think he will throw Sake in there because I get a feeling, and I keep saying they're so emotional. They are so fucking emotional over everything. Like, honestly, it's 48, 72 hours after William Saliba sent off, Sky Sports are doing sprint stats on Evan Elson and William Saliba, but they don't fucking sprint stats. And I made a joke of this on a show or on a show or a WhatsApp group, and I went, "Lads, they'll have the sprint stats up next." And swear to God, the next day it was up on the screen. I was like, "Hey, listen to me, is this our my fucking fault? What's going on?" But this is what the carry-on is. Kalifiori is out now as well, but it looks like you're in timber as a devil. But this is what happens when you have lots of games. Listen, Saliba's done on fault, but this is what happens when you have players playing loads of games over and over and over again. That's the truth. Players get injured. We have injuries. They have injuries. It's going to be such a fucking hard game, though. Like, people think our last level of all these players, it's not going to be hard. It is. They still have players that can hold you. I like Sake. I really like Martin Ellie. I'm not the biggest fan of Hayes use, but he can pop up with a goal. Royce has been excellent for them. Paradise is doing a job. Truss has a real handful of times as well. It's going to be so hard, but Liverpool need to put all this shit aside and go in there and go, "Listen, we're going in here. We're on a really fucking good run. Why can't we go on with it?" And if we win amazing, if we draw fair enough, even if we lose the game, Roy, they're backward in a point. If we win, we go with seven points for him. But honestly, if Liverpool win, I'd love it so much just to go there and put two or three, boy, this, unless you walk away. I'm no big force. We beat, you know, it's good luck. We're on to the next, because I'm fucking sick and tired of them. I'm sick and tired of that manager, and that fan base is fucking mental. Absolutely and utterly mental. It's so hard to find one of them that you can actually speak to and go, "What do you think that?" Yeah, it probably was a red, actually. You know, it's off the wall stuff, and it's a massive, massive game, but we're doing it already. It's a lot to have a plan, and it's up to the players, too. It's up to the players to go and carry out that plan. I just can't wait for it. I can't wait for it. And people have looked at these 10 games and, "Oh, look at these 10 games." Embrace it. You might win all 10. You might win five and lose five. You might lose seven of them, but just embrace it. This is a team in transition. It's a really good team in transition. It's trying new things. It's doing them quite well, and we're not a repeat. There's so much more to come from this side, so much more to come from this side in the way they're playing. You know what I mean? They've reached so many peaks with Jorgen Club. This different way of playing, I don't think they're anywhere near how good they can be. And, um, Sunday won't win. I lose a leg, but just give me three points and just f*cking don't have to listen to them pricks from another week. And actually, you know what? Three-neal, but I want a massive controversy in it possible. Yeah, just something that they can just cheer on. The only problem here is that there's not an international breakout after this game. A trainee will win a massive controversy, an Arsenal going absolutely bananas for 10 to 14 days will be absolutely fantastic. I mean, it's pretty good. Yeah, it's all being reversed. I don't know. Yeah, it's just chopped off or offside or something like that. I don't know how many more times this can happen. Uh, I'm going to give comment of the night, the scouser Pete that says the way Brian O'Sullivan looks after his herd. You'd swear he was producing Wagyu milk, which by the way is the only milk that Keith Plunkett drinks when he's on a Sunday night show. He only drinks number one great a Wagyu milk. Okay. Absolutely fantastic. And his cows are a bit weird. Yes. And I mean, they're all drying out. So that's good because it is rainy in Ireland. It's a tough job being. Yeah. If you know, you know, give any final words before we get out of here. The only thing I'll say is the more risks that Michel Artseta has to take with his starting lineup, this early in the season, the better for us in the long run. If he has to take risks over Saka or the guard, whoever else is borderline good, because he will. He will throw them to the wolves and let them fall where they may, because that's what he's done all the time. He's flogged that side to win an inch of its life to get to the end of the season last year. And he's shown that he's willing to do it again. He does not rot it. He will play these players as much as possible until they break. And I have no doubt in my mind that Saka will play at least an hour, if not more on Sunday, because that's just the way he is. He will play these players. Comelor Highwater. Yeah, I'm sure we'll discuss it more. I think you're 100% correct, but I don't think you can blame him because Ashley, is it wrong to just flog your players regardless of what injuries come out when you put up the trophy results that Michael Artetta has put? Oh, no, sorry. I was looking at the wrong manager's results there. It's, it's just Arsenal, though. It's just, we'll have a little laugh at Arsenal and then we'll have to talk about the game afterwards. Yeah, I mean, we've all been on Artetta for, I mean, years at this point for not rotating his squad, saying that this is going to happen and that, you know, when you go toe to toe with whether it's city or whether it's us, you have to be able to rotate. Otherwise, this, this happened. This happened to us. You know, we tried to go toe to toe with city. We like made some questionable decisions about throwing players in when they weren't ready, and we paid the price. And if Arsenal have to do that this early in the season, then good luck to them because we all know how that story ends. So I, you know, I hope that our, I hope that Artetta has no idea how to manage his squad. And like I've said, I hope that he has to take risks, or I don't know if that was cover gaps. Sorry. I hope that they have to take risks because it doesn't pay off in the long run. And you know, it's, it is very early in the season for them to be making those kinds of decisions. I mean, this is, this is October. This isn't like December where, you know, the chips are down and you have to like make a play. This is October. And it's a big deal. It's a must win for them. I think so. I think it's a must not lose for them. I think it's not lose. Yeah, I think, but if I look at that city, they're probably going, folks, like if they win and we draw other, what do we, five points off? See, and yeah, the before points off. See, and that's why it was big number when you're chasing. And, but my, my whole thing on the means, right? And I've said already, I think it'd be a massively higher game. And I can go either way, even with the injuries for them and the injuries for us. And they played yesterday, we played today, we used to travel back in Germany, all that sort of stuff. My thing on this is that they feel like they're in panic mode and everything's fucking mental. I'm on nine games, this will be the nine league game of the season. Like, if this was February match, I'm gonna go fuck them players. I don't, I mean, have to play them. And what we're gonna deal with, let's just scrape some. This feels like that's just fucking seven more months of this. Seven more months of this. You know, when you're running on emotion and you're running on adrenaline, yeah, you hit a wall. You have to run and run and run. And yeah, I hope you don't hit that wall before the last day of the season, right? But this isn't adrenaline. This is pure emotion. And it's not even a siege mentality because they've created a siege that's not there. Do you know what I mean? And it's like, I think they're really good. I made them. I actually made them favorites for the league when Roger got injured at all. They are genuinely famous league, but I'm watching them and I've watched in the last couple of games. And it's like, there's never just a Arsenal 1 2 0 today. It's never never there's never Arsenal 1 2 0 and they're like sixth on match of the day. Yeah, it's Arsenal 1 4 0 and they had to be forced on it because they were two, they were tearing it up. Let's start. Look at Lester. They go behind us with Hampton. They lose the barrement. You know what I mean? They scrape on last night and it's just everything seems to be, but has to take so much area when it's constant. It's kind of like Man City at the moment as well. Man City at the minute are having to work really, really hard to get their wins. I think tonight they probably had a soft one. But yeah, in the league lately, ever since Roger is going out injured, they're having to work so hard. They're dominating the ball and they're dominating games. But they're really having to work a lot harder than what they're used to to get three points. And we've done that last year. Remember last year to start the season, we started the season with a bang, but we kept getting over the line in games. Not sustainable. Yeah, we were getting over the line. We have an opportunity of conceding a goal on purpose in the first 10 minutes, so it turns out. Yeah, I'm it's fucking weird. I mean, having to work that hard. It will catch you out because there will be games where it just won't work. You know, Man City and Arsenal can't keep going behind in games because eventually it won't work out the way they want it. And if we go there and get three points on Sunday, God willing, seven points, it would be the difference between us and them. Pointing nine games can't. Six from C. Yeah, I'm worried. I mean, at the end of the day, they're all going to be already playing C. Seven points is a good, a lot to make up even against us this early in the season, because yeah, they'd have to go a lot will have to go their way and we would have to drop three games. I don't even think they're looking at Liverpool. I think they're looking at C. Oh, I think they are as well. I think they're looking at C. I'm okay with that, though. Yeah. I mean, I'm fully of the opinion, right? That if we're, if we, if it doesn't say us and see going into a league toilet race, fair enough, right, if it's us and Arsenal going into it, but genuinely, it was us and Arsenal, right? I want Liverpool to just have the crack. I want us to have a great time because while they're absolutely falling over themselves, the fucking be emotional, we're over here going, we're at the wind again, a lot of kind. Let's go. We're on the fucking next one. And we actually think that will walk against an Arsenal side against anybody. If another team looks kill and calm and doing their job, Arsenal just, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there's Arsenal fans out there, they're telling me I'm wrong, but honestly. We're just going to roll this right into an Arsenal preview show if we're not too careful here. Everyone is looking for us. Do you remember when Leicester won the league? And it got to that stage in the season where everyone was waiting for Leicester to blow up. I think everyone is looking at us, waiting for us to blow up. The look at the slot is just in the door and Yabbi's getting results, but he's the new guy. And they're looking at the depth in the squad and the fact they look at the bench tonight and we'll have yet. They're waiting for us to blow up and it's not happening. And the more times that we're putting three points on the table and they're scrapping around for wins, that gap can open up and you can find yourself in a really strong position by the turn of the year. If we keep doing what we're doing and they're playing catch-up all the time and eventually they'll look and say how did they get that far ahead? Well, it's because they're running on a motion and we're just taking over like a slot machine. And with that, that has been the talking time match reaction. We were in Leipzig. We came away with another victory in the Champions League. Where's Leipzig? Where's Leipzig man? Leipzig is in East Germany. Yeah, it's in East Germany, but we have different commentators. My commentator could not stop telling you that Leipzig was in East Germany. It was on the wrong side of the Berlin Wall. But those of us. He's truly a massive fan of the Berlin Wall. I was going to say that, okay. Huge fan of the Berlin Wall. The Wall has come down. The Wall has been replaced by a young gentleman from the court. It was an 18.8 million, mate. Relax with it. I do have to say just before we go, though, that Latvierman off of their team has some of the worst hair that I have ever seen in my entire life. It looks like a G-appet and it doesn't matter because Liverpool are three wins from three in the Champions League. We play Arsenal this Sunday. Keep your notifications on in case Gabb decides to have an impromptu match preview show for the Arsenal game coming up because you can tell he's got a lot of opinions about it. But we're allowed to go late when Gabb joins us on a full-time match reaction show. Thank you for joining us. Please help us with our charities. Visit footballprices.co.uk. See you after the Arsenal. This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. [BLANK_AUDIO]
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