This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Hello Greetings and welcome to the Talking Cup Sunday, the 20th of October. Live up here, go back to the top of the Premier League after beating Gary Neville's Blues of Chelsea. Two goals to won at Anfield earlier on today. If you haven't seen or listened to the post match reaction show, it is up there if you can see the watch and listen to him across all your podcast platforms. As always, we go to the end and then we walk our way back to the start. Keith, it's another win, I've seen a lot of lads today saying just win, just win, but Keith, we're all getting the ins and outs of the game, it was a different sort of win from Liverpool today. I thought it was a measured win, I thought it took the international break into consideration, the football teams, players of players, you can see that in the starting lineup, probably some of the first, and then in the changes, and the way we approached the game, we didn't open it up, a real game hand that was different, especially when you see it at home, because we're so used to it, we don't care who it is, just fucking go and see where we are, but this was a lot more measured, and again we get the three points in a different way, that was impressive. Yeah, it was, it really was, I'm not criticizing the open club, look we all love the open club and it feels like when you say anything about how well Aaron is slot is doing, not any changes Aaron is slot makes, that feels like you're digging out, you're going and it's not the case, but we do look much more measured, we look much more comfortable, we look much more solid at the back, and I think the game today showed that, I think we went there with a game plan, it seemed to me to let Chelsea have a lot of the ball, and we were confident and comfortable enough that we could have got the win, and it just puts another, you know, better in the ball, when you're arguing with people who are trying to say, you know, the ball, better in the cap, well, who's talking about ball, you know, better in the ball, whatever, I'm a feather in the ball, and I'm a feather in the ball, and I'm a feather in the ball, and Tefora, I knew it is, Detroit did play live uphill down, and I don't mean live uphill fans were probably a little bit, you know, apprehensive about talking us up, but these talking heads and media fucking moguls, I'm going to talk about one of them I'm sure soon enough, who are constantly rubbish in live uphill, and I was saying, you know, live hill haven't played anyone, and you don't know why any slot is always quick enough to come out and say, yeah, that's right, we haven't, but you take the games live hill have played into consideration, and when they play them, and things like that, and the difficulty of the games at the time they play them, or you think live uphill have had a great start to the season, and I think today, I think everyone will agree, was the forced non-negotiable tough game live uphill, and now, if you try and tell me at any time that Manchester, you know, at all, traffic isn't a tough game, despite how short I are, I'll argue with you until the kills come home, but people couldn't die, this was the one we were all saying, this is the first, no, no, God, it's always a hard game, we've made a hard game for years, we've never made it easy, even yoga, the sport down there, and absolutely honking them a few times, they made it difficult for themselves, you know, never an easy game, when we're winning or they're winning. Kijo freezing a little bit, and then you've caught up, so just watch that, um, yeah, that's what it is to me, oh no, to be honest with you, I should have given them to one understand, whether Indolan is horrendous at the minute, this storm is coming in, it's just picking up all the time, so if we drop off, or one of the guys drop off, you know, just be on the standard of the barrel, you don't be gone, oh, it was on the edge of the night, I can see Kijo freezing, I'm like, what's going on, you know, this is like... - I made a great point there as well. - It was a brilliant point, we got him out, so I agree with you, it was another arrow in your cap. - Another feather in the bow. - This is a feather in the bow, Emmett Sandhandi says, slotted his homework on Chelsea big time, gave them the bar with no space and punished them on the counter, brilliant performance in my opinion, Chelsea had only two shots on target with their attacking quality also. Now, this is where I'm saying it was a bit more measured, Emmett, like, you know, obviously I was playing Chelsea at all the times, and we go, well, we go, we don't give a fuck here we were, you know. The only team we ever really coined a look at and go, give it a minute, it's probably easy, because we try to walk out, because they try to be clever in some way, but... - What I noticed today was, and it's a different way of winning, and even the way we've been winning this season, Emmett has been different, it hasn't been a fucking mad football, it's a different way of winning games, right? And some of them, sometimes you like it, sometimes you don't, but what I noticed today was, Liverpool said to themselves, Roy, where can they hold you? What they can hold you is, if you be expansive in your setup, even your defensive setup, you know, keeping your full-back with Wyatt, they want to find Kyle Palmer in space, and they want to find others in space in these little pockets, and we're not going to let one. We're going to be narrow, we're going to let them go with it, and we're confident enough of the footballs into the box, we'll, we'll deal with it, and even if Detroit plays through the lines in toy areas, we'll have enough bodies there, I was just, I was just really impressed that overall with it, with the way we set this game up and said, yeah, you can have more passes, nups, yeah, you can have a little bit more position than us, but we're going to hold you when we get a chance, and it was just a night up, I'm not saying it was perfect, but it was nice to see a different way of winning a football game. Yeah, that's a ferret here, about, now his internet has gone, again, I'm still here. No, I'm still here, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, look, it was, I mean, we are playing differently, do you know what, we've spoken of the crowd having to get used to it, I think you are well up for it today, and really, yeah, but yeah, Chelsea have made a few mistakes so far this season, especially with Sanchez and Gall, with teams pressing them, and what you said there is what I was going to say, we seem to be extremely narrow, I think we have been narrow in a good few games, but particularly today, and we were narrow, and we were forced in the mud, and then in some cases, doubling up as well, all but null up for it, Carl, Carl, I was going to say Carl Barbara, Carl Barbara, Carl Barbara, and, but yeah, no, it was measured, controlled, it's, you're going to need to get new, so at this stage, and it's, I think we possibly lose that game, and again, I'm not dug, and if we go out and try and go, going how against Chelsea, today we probably, we probably lose that game, and you see an awful lot of people saying that, or Trent is a good defender and all this kind of stuff, it's because of the way that the team is playing as a whole, he's not bumming forward, he doesn't have so much space to recover, and I'm really liking it, I have to say, when we were there for the, for his first game, I was a little bit, oh, I don't know how to relate this or not, and I think the whole crowd as a whole, has been like, oh, I'm not sure what to relate this, but now you're going to see the meta to the madness, and it's literally all he's done is, rather than winning the back, winning the ball back, like we would last year and go all out attack, we're just taking a pass or two, and kind of, kind of, taking a time, and I think that's probably, if we did that last year, we probably got, we're gone on the league, as we were leaving ourselves wide open at the back, and I feel much more comfortable watching games now, I didn't think, even when, even when Chelsea's guard, I honestly tired that Robertson was going to get his total, and, and poker back, I wasn't overly concerned, I'm only scared, it was kind of needed like a shock, it's only the tour goal we've considered this season so far, but it's not, it's nice, I am more relaxed, and we'll say, and that's always good. Yeah, but look, we've, we've gone from the olden club, which I just loved every fucking minute, young club, and we've gone into Aaron's slot, and I've been into a couple of games around field this season, and you can still feel that kind of, oh, I want you all about that, you know, I'm doing certain things, and crowds are, I call in the, looking at and kind of going, I kind of have to sit and watch here to see, until all this stuff that they're doing becomes the norm, you get me, and then you're going to go, oh, this is the norm now, and everything's fucking grand, and then it was, again, it was different today, you know, like, you're talking about taking extra pass and stuff like that, that's absolutely fine, but if, and control is the word you've used as well, and this and we've been so controlled in an awful lot of football we play this year, trying to control games, trying to take any sort of rhythm, other teams, any, you know, if they, if they get any kind of momentum, we try to take it off them by keeping the ball up here at a time, but then when I looked at today, it was a, it was a real case of, it was, it was controlled in a different way, you know, it wasn't with the ball, we controlled it, we're allowed to ball today, because we obviously, I think we identify it, the players that have been away, you look, look at the guys doesn't start, McCallus doesn't start, Trent comes off, he's at the, he's at two games, for England, so you see all, you see all the things going on there, and I, I just think, I think it'll really stand to the people when you, when you look at it and you go to yourself, you know what, we might need to go to Arizona next week and do a little bit of the same, let them have it, or do we make it a big open expansive game, no, we're not going to, we're gonna, gonna try to keep the ball in Arizona, or we're gonna say, no, you can have a little bit more of it, not much more of it, than what we have, but just a little bit more, and then, you know, we, we'll, we'll pick our chances to go at you, because, like, when you look through this game, we don't press as much, I don't think, we don't, we don't actually go after them, and all, as much as we usually do, but when we do, and we win, we'll find the little passes into midfield, and then we're toning on and going at them, and they look like, I think Chris Brack said it was earlier, and they look like to run a knife-head Chelsea defensively, because when you're watching them, you're like, Jesus Christ, Liverpool are literally millimeters at times getting through them here, and that's where Liverpool picked our chances, and it was just another, for me, another way of winning the football game, but still being fairly in control of it, you know, Chelsea have more corners, I think they've more passes, and they've more possession, but it's not, it's not like they're 70-40, it's, you know, 50-40-40, if something goes wrong with that, and we, again, we come over again, they had two shots on target, they had a couple of chances near the end, but we've chances as well, and I was just overall coming away from the game, I just thought, great win, great three points for the way the weekend has gone, and again, it's just, when you're starting to ask them questions at this team, you know, can they do it, we're not a rare guy at action, but can they do it when the team has more of the ball, you know, yeah, we've answered that today to a point, you know, I think the play Chelsea really, really well, because my worry about Chelsea was that he'll weigh him in, and Kyle Perram I find in these little pockets, and trying to, you know, little cue balls in behind, but I think overall we, well, Perram won once when they actually score, I think we've done it really, really well, the loyal, you know, we know Keller's going to start and go, no problem, the back four is the back four, Jones comes in from a Callister, which wasn't too much of a surprise, it was kind of moments going on over the last 40 hours, that lucky moment, you only make the squad, but he's on the bench and he comes on for the last 20 or so, and that's the change in my field, and then of course he goes with Gakpo, which again, is understandable, Diaz has been away in South America and played two games and comes back later and everyone else, and you think that we're figuring the thinking that against Forrest, he came back after an international bright, didn't he, and they were a bit sluggish to the team, so, you know, Diaz and McAllister don't start to know, McAllister did have the issue on those talks that he wouldn't bore, you think he would have just maybe rested in the man, anyway, I know that when it comes on, he didn't intend to start him or whatever, but I don't think it's ever a bad thing, you know, when players are coming from South America now, depending on where they're playing and here we're playing against, we all remember McAllister when he played against, played wolves that time and had an absolute stink, or he was on an oxygen tank in fucking Bolivia two days before that, you know what I mean? And I felt we shouldn't have been playing him in that game, but, you know, I hope that slot, and maybe this is just a coincidence with the selection table, I hope he does look at things like that and say, well, going to play this team, we don't fear playing Cortis Jones in a game like this, and we shouldn't have that today, and anyway, but, you know, Cortis Jones coming in isn't weak in that team. Cody Gaqbo coming in isn't weak in that team, and I'd love to see his years in the squad a bit more like that, rather than just rely on the same starting eleven all the time, that was a good use of the squad. Yeah, we've created a slot with good use of the squad, you know, when it comes to late Cup, and even in Europe, away in Milan, he puts Gaqbo in, and he changes a couple of rounds, and he's going to have to, like, at the end of the day, look, I don't want to go back to transfer windows and and soins and non-soins, but at the end of the day, he has players there that that's a squad, and he's going to have to use them, like, when you look at the next, well, it was 10 games before, nine games that we have coming up, I think, it might be before the international breakers, something around that, and it's just madness, and all these players can play every game, and if you take McAllister, for instance, yeah, he's away with Argentina, he has a little bit of a knock, or you have an issue all from going away and anyway, but he comes back, he gets 20 minutes there, gets a time to recoup, and then midweek, he might come back in, or he might not come in midweek, he might not play, or start midweek, but he might start following weekends, but if you can keep, the thing for me is, I'd rather see them being bounced in a game to game, not massive changes, but bounce a few in, you know, game to game because it keeps a rhythm to them, and you need a rhythm to them, or you don't want to see a fella that hasn't played in six weeks gone, or he's starting a home to man see, like, come on, you know what I mean, you need a rhythm, let's go through some of the incidents in the game, Emma, I'm gonna get keep back in here, keep going after her, but I'll get them back in here now, but she should be in there now, but let's look at some of the incidents in the game, the fourth really one is this, you know, what would you call it, it's a fella with this fella Towson, and see how he's gone with that name, we'll see another fella that was out full of them, yeah, but he, well, either either either the re-bow or something, yeah, I thought he went with the other name before, then he always went with Towson, but this is, this is four or four minutes into the game, it's a good challenge in Liverpool's box with him by Graven Bear to fall, so Salah, he looks up, he plays it over the top, Jot is going after, this guy drags him down, falls on top from Horton, and straight away, you're going, well, this is very similar to what happened yesterday, Emma, the Vitality Stadium, I think it's called the Obama, it's between Saliba and Ebony Eelson, what did you think of the time, I mean, what do you think now, as you're, as you're, I can't stay the same, so, so like Arsenal fans would love to tell you that it's very similar, but in fact, it's completely different, so first of all, sorry, before we go into this one, let's chat about the Arsenal, because we might as well chat about that and then go on to this one, where, what, what's your feelings on the Arsenal? Red card, Stonewall, clear this red card, look, and look, you know me and me take talk, but I'm, you love it, I've been watching, I've been watching videos, and I'm here for, I think I spent about two or three hours last night, looking at different videos, just specifically searching out Arsenal accounts, and then they pulling up the rules and distance from goal and all this, and it says, there's four things that I has to check, and distance from goal is the top one, it says it checks all the other three, but distance from goal, it doesn't check, because he's literally in the centre circle, where the ball is played, so the ball is played in the distance. Yeah, well, that is one of the contributing facts that they think of when they're disoined, it is, yeah. So, the ball bounces into the, is bouncing into the middle of the park, is to where, who was it that you've pulled down? Evan Eelson, Evan Eelson. Evan Eelson, and he's quick, so he, it's pulled into the, into the centre of the pitch, which means he has a run through on goal, Roya as Elvie's bar, he's actually just, he's retreating, by pedaling into his, into his box, so he's going to get on to that. Roya is not going to get across ahead of Evan Eelson, and, and that's it, Red Courant, it was a, it was a chance on goal, and they're, they're saying, well, what is the chance? 50, it doesn't matter, it doesn't, you don't rate what the chance is, he's true on goal, it's true on goal, it's an opportunity, it's a goal score, an opportunity, and that's, that's what Doggo is, isn't it? Don't deny an obvious goal score, an opportunity, and that's what it was, today is, well, hold on, just, no, that's your view on, yes, Keith, you just think it's a Red Courant? Oh, it's a Red Courant, and for the same principle, if you look where that ball drops when it goes through, it, it sort of stops dead in the path that Evan Eelson is running into, so Ben Boy is not getting across there, he's not, challenged him, he could put him under pressure, but he'd be doing it as a catch-up, right, so he's not getting ahead of it, he's not winning that ball before Evan Eelson has a chance to either get shot off or just make a ball of it, but the point is, as we said, it doesn't matter if he gets there, with no one else, you know what I mean, Evan Eelson is clear, true on that, and I think the key, and again, we'll come out of the air one, which is the difference, I think the key is, if you look at that from behind, the ball over the top just drops, it doesn't roll across, to Ben Boy to it, do you know what I mean, if it's drifting back so it, you can say he has a chance, it doesn't, it stops dead in the middle, and I think that's where, the, so, it's not really bad. I don't avoid arguing a bit, but you don't understand what I mean. This is my thing on the right, and I'm sure we're going to, I'll probably go into it when I do a show tomorrow, maybe there was a show at 10 a.m, if anyone's around, we'll see how we go on, but my thing on it is, right, and I've, I've seen Dean Ashton on the Sky today gone, like, he literally goes to the water, I can't see how this is a red card, and I went for a fork sake, right, so, here's, here's, if I'm a professional footballer, right, here's the thing for me, the ball goes over the top, and Evan Nielsen makes the run, right, it's a ball from Trusshart, and it is, number one, the ball isn't, is going towards the goal, it's going straight towards the goal, that's the fourth thing, the second thing is the goalkeeper's retreat, the key to this is the goalkeeper's treatment, by the way, right, in my opinion, because if the goalkeeper is advancing towards that ball, right, as soon as the referee goes to blows, he sees the key, I keep on this, I want to understand, you go, was it a clear goal, it's got an opportunity, probably not the keeper's probably getting there, he's retreating, that's the, one, the ball's gone towards the goal, two, the goalkeeper's retreating, and three, Benway is not part of this conversation, it's simply not part of this conversation, right, because he is not gold-soyed of Evan Nielsen, right, plus he's 25 yards away from Evan Nielsen running in the wrong direction, if you actually look at it, Benway is running as if he's backtracking into a right-back position, and then tones, when, when the fella goes down, and then tones are making the move towards it, you know, Sky had fucking drowned footage and alpha can start to gear going on, but the simple fact of the matter is the ball goes over the top, Evan Nielsen goes after, Saliba pulls him down, right, and when you stop it there and then, it doesn't matter how fast Evan Nielsen is, how fast Benway is, Evan Nielsen is going to get to that ball forced, okay, and he's going to be true on goal, now I see in the international, it's 44 yards, and then he's running, he's 20 yards to get there, and then he's running another 24 yards at the bottom, now, that's immaterial, right. Dean Ashton's a strike, I mean, he looked back on top of it, and he came out, he came out with awards like, oh, if anyone thinks he's a red card, he clearly haven't been in this situation, right, honestly, then, if you were in that situation, the chances are you are a striker, and you're absolutely looking for a red card, so don't be giving me that nonsense, right, if fucking some center half was trying to do, I go, well, he sent the half union, he's trying, but Dean Ashton was a striker, you know, he was a fucking striker, Benway is immaterial in this, I don't know why Benway has brought into this, it's a little bit like the time Nick Pope went down the handle of the ball with Salah, and Eddie helped me, went with defenders covering, Eddie, your nearest center half was on the fucking halfway line toward the yards behind Mo Salah, how are you making out of this fellas covering, so it's a red card, right, and the biggest thing for me in it is that one direction the ball actually goes, and Evan Hilton is 100% getting to that ball, so Evan Hilton gets to it, and he say 24 yards, 20 yards from the box, right, and even if you bring Benway into the conversation, right, even if you bring Benway into the conversation, that means that Benway has to cover 44 yards across the pitch, right, in the time it will take Evan Hilton to move 10 yards into that box, it's simply not happening, if it is, he should be in the next Olympics and he should be fucking breaking Usain Bolt's, you know, world record, it was madness that people were going on, and I watched it, I was in a poll watching it, and the yellow card went up, and this fella at the bar, torn to me, and he goes, "What do you reckon that?" I said, "It's a red card, I can't believe it's not a red card, straight away before." That's the crime, it was only given as a fucking yellow. Yeah, but the one today then, right, the one today, and by the way Salib should make sure he doesn't touch this fella, and back himself in a full race, I'm pushing him away, you know, but he doesn't, he puts his arm on him. The distance argument goes against Saliba there because he had loads of time to recover. Yeah, but Dean Ashton was saying like, "Oh, you know," and then Saliba would still be there, he said, "Yeah, Saliba will still be there," but what we don't really know is, if Saliba's still there, it means then that Evan Hilton's gold sawed him. Now, unless you're going to get the referee to stop and go, "How quick can Evan Hilton, Evan Hilton, how quick can Saliba run?" Well, if I walk around with my head, he'll probably catch him with the edge of the box. That's not the point. The point is you've committed a fella when a guy has known between him and the gold, and he's definitely going to make that ball. That's it. It's as simple as that. That's the case. You're between Mickey van de van as different because he'd catch any full construator. But exactly the same, Mickey van de van could be 20 yards. Yeah, you'd be ringing after going, "Listen, can you get the average speeds over 40 yards, right?" And the other thing is, Evan Hilton doesn't have to run all the way up to the box to try to issue. The gold scoring opportunity can be taken from 24 yards away. We're going to keep our back pedaling. Yeah, yeah. But today is one. I go for it. I don't think it's a red. And again, the first thing I looked at was the direction the ball has gone. And the ball has actually gone over Jotter's right shoulder and heading towards the touchline. And that's not a clear gold scoring opportunity because he's not actually true on gold. He's when you actually played around and let them run, he's chasing the ball into a channel. That's where I am on it. I don't know where to use that. I always just think the position of leave-we-call will is the key on that one as well because it's leave-we-call will just literally end up in that area. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but when we are keeping that stance, it's kind of like it's drifting to the side, so it's not going through straight. But I just think, and it does take the position of the players, I just think leave-we-call will is too close to that action, whereas bermoy was too far away from the action, or you think there's never ever a case that I've been a red card, as much as it's a technology, you know, but the real injustice is the fact that you ought to get the injury from. Yeah, and listen, I don't think it's a red card, let me put that away. But I don't, I don't think leave-we-call will is in the conversation either because if that ball goes over, straight over the top of Jotter's head, and your man pulls him down, leave-we-call was immaterial because he's in on goal. It doesn't matter what's behind him. Leave-we-call is going. Yeah, the direction the ball is going. The direction of the ball is going, I think, is the key here. I think if that's straight over the top of Jotter, I think the referee sees that bounce and running towards the unfair role then, in that straight-shot channel, I think he gives him a red. But because the direction of the ball, I think he gives him a red. Yeah, but that's why leave-we-call will, I think, does come into it in this one because if it was going the other way, I'll resort, I'll just say straight through on goal, then call will is out because he's not going to get the ball. Yeah, the direction of the ball is going. If you watch your back before the two lines stop rolling around on the bell, call will catch us up with the ball. Yeah. So, going in that direction, if Jotter, if the ball was to fall and Jotter was to wriggle free, I think call will catch us up. Like you said, he's running into a channel anyway. But like Keith said, if the ball is actually going towards the middle of the park, rather than towards the thing, then you could real call well out because he has to nearly run through the other defender to get. Yeah, that's that's my thing. I watched when the ball bounced, and I think, I think Rory says on score is the thing he said, the ball is running away towards the assistant. I'm not even here, but he probably brought Mike Dean and or something like that. But somebody does say the ball is running across towards the other assistant. I think that's that's fair. It'd be interesting to see if Salah's ball had been in a straight line, you know, and over the top of Jotter, where Jotter isn't running left, I run and right, he's just running straight onto it. I think it's a red car then, because I'm not bothered by Levi Carwell. That's not the issue. The issue here is that when you fell the Algo Jotter, there's nobody between you and that goal. There's nobody but the goalkeeper, and it doesn't matter who's behind you. Do you know what I mean? It really, really doesn't. They're not gold so they're they're not covering. Covering is meant to be you, someone's tackled you, but there's another defender there that's covering. He's not covering. He's in Liverpool. Liverpool's half when it happens. So he's not covering. That's point of disclosure. He's simply not covering it. If the ball is straight, it's a red. I think the arc of the ball actually helps Chelsea, and it's not a red, but um... Barry Devan is a ref, isn't he? And he's saying the player has to be in possession of the ball are most likely to gain possession. But he does gain, you see, Barry says it there, but this is my point about the trajectory of the ball. If the ball is straight, Jotter is 100%. Oh, yeah. That's it. And that's where we all agree. And we differ from the tail because the Saliba one, the direction of the ball, it's going directly into Evan Elson's room, directly in, and this one that's going away from the way. But it's like someone mentioned there, the Sam says, the Van Duyko, going back to Newcastle. He's given that because when all his goes past them, they look and go, "Oh, there's like the goal. There's nobody there. There's nobody there." And it doesn't matter if there's a fella 20 yards over here on low-image. He's not cover. There's nobody in front of you. And, you know, we don't get that. But we do end up getting a penalty. We're caught as John's going down the box. It fell by, I want to say, car well, wasn't it? What's car well? And it's just a penalty. I think it's just clumsy from car well. He goes through the ball, it's not there. He kicks, caught as John's, and Liverpool go one up with Salah. And I thought Liverpool deserved it. I thought, like, I know Chad's even off a lot of the ball, and they're kind of pretty and what they're doing. It's nice what they're doing, but it's not, they're not penetrating Liverpool in half a lot, and getting in behind and stuff like that. But on the balance of it, I was like, "Yeah, I think overall we deserved that. I think we showed a lot of intent in the early 20-25 minutes." Yeah. I mean, we did an awful lot with our possession, even though it was probably less than what they had. We looked far more threatening than they did, more decisive in their final tournament. And that's probably something that we've lacked certainly last year, and maybe a little bit earlier on in the season. But yeah, no, 100 percent. And to see, I know, John's probably would have started as in the two. We're grabbing birds to see him that high up was really good. I mean, we know we can do both. But yeah, it's a nice ball in. I think it takes a bit of a deflection, doesn't it? It's Salah taking a shot. Yeah. It falls and he tones it, look to shoot, and Carway goes to kick and just takes him out. It's not, I don't think it's it. It's unfortunate for Carway, if you look at it from a charity interview, it's like, "Ah, he was going to kick, and he just..." Yeah, I don't think, but I don't think Corey's on puts himself in there. You know, I'm going to put myself there for you to kick me. No, no, no. He's literally just trying to turn around, and Carway reaches to get to the bar and doesn't. But yeah, it's definitely something that we deserved. Like I said, we did more with our possession than they did. The team can pass you off the park, but never get into your 18 yard box. Like, we just seemed a little bit more kind of, you use the word there. We kind of nearly penetrated, modernated, and we were, we kind of, I won't say cut through them, but we were getting at them. They didn't seem to be able to get at us, and we were getting at them, and I think it's what we deserved. What keyed? It's a penalty. I think you agreed that it's a penalty, and Sala puts it away, but Super Digital says that Sala should have had a pen just before it. We think that was a stormwater pen as well. We think we should have three pens today. We think three stormwater penalties today live up to the trigger, and I won't hear the word about I need them being a case. The one way, Curtis Jones, what would have been the tournament. I don't give a bollocks if he got a nick on the ball, because he took a milk then. Do you know what I mean? Like, and you can't open the player. Do you know what I mean? If that happens anywhere else on the pitch, you get a little nick, but you go trail when you absolutely clean the milk, that should have been a panel. Sala's one should have been a panel, and the one we did get was a stormwater panel. We'll talk about the left, I'm sure, in a while. We'll get to him, boy the way, but Oitar, the trade, I'm sure, have been given us penalties. That's my own personal opinion. We didn't get them, we move on. It didn't impact us, but Oitar, the Sala woman was a penalty, and this talk of raising up being broke down for our assimilation. Just because it's not a penalty, doesn't mean it's a fucking doive. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, we're going to have contact. There's definitely contact. Maybe not enough for a penalty, and that's what it should be. Oitar never kept talking about this is when a doive is where it should be broke. Did you take it as never literally going book Sala for doive, or did you, did a couple across to you was him saying, if it's not a penalty, what is the referee booking for doive, and then was he asking the question? Or do you think he was just being fucking Gary Neville? Well, I think it's both with him. I think it's both. He's asking the question, but he is sort of eluding, because he's just being more than of evidence of Gary Neville's commentary around Mo Sala to indicate that he thinks he doives consistently for penalties, so I think it's... Yeah, we're going to him in a bit, I suppose, as well. Fuck sake. Yeah, lots to talk about what I mean. Keith mentioned that there are three penalties. You know, the Sala woman, I think, yeah, I could see them being given. The Jones one definitely the fourth one. The second one though. You don't think it was? Oh, you don't think it was. I'm all over. I do. I'm in Keith's camp on this one. How many times have we seen the fells, whether it be, I'll name a few Casa Mira. I think Casa Mira has been sent off for a fell where he got the ball forced and then continued on into the player. Jones was sent off last season where he got the ball and continued on into the player. This hold, and I think Kev actually made a really good point earlier on the post match. This man and ball has been gone about 10 years now. I used to love playing. I would like... Now we are going to get the ball, but mainly it's going to be 10% ball, 90% man, and I used to love that. And it's just gone, and that's... He comes out, right? If he's coming out to get that ball, surely he doesn't mean to try and get it with his calf muscle. He's going to aim for it with his foot. So he comes out like this, he turns like this, so he knows I'm about to clatter into this chap, and I'm not getting the old moneymaker involved in it. And he turns away. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's coming, and by the way, Jones is kind of nearly standard still. It'd be different if Jones clattered into the keeper. He didn't. The keeper clattered into him. So yes, he gets a little nick on it, but he opens Jones, and for me, it's a penalty. I know we were discussing it back and forth on the WhatsApp, but it's 100% the penalty for me. He knows nothing about the touch on the ball. Exactly, that's the key for me. It's not like he gets it, it's the source of touch. It hits off, and that. Yeah, I can see our point of view, and somebody says there, the character mates, where have I just seen it? Oh, Kev says, characters made a great point. He stopped Jones when getting to the follow-up, which is probably more of a claim. Okay, you win the ball, but then Curtis Jones wins the ball, he puts it through your legs, and you flip him, like up a 360 in the air. Like, you know, I get that. The only thing is I'm with red hoyker. If that was given against us, I will be fucking fume. Absolutely fume. We've been, we've conceded worse than that, regular. Yeah, but I'm saying, like if I switch that around and Kelleher comes out, get a touch, Sancho gets a touch, and goes over the top of Kelleher, and they give a penalty. I am fucking, like, I am gone. Like, I'd be like, Kelleher and I still come out like that. Yeah, I mean, the way he comes out is ridiculous. It's, it's, it's, I actually think he comes out, I actually think he comes, I think he comes out trying to block the ball. I don't think he believes he's going to get there before Curtis Jones. I think he actually goes out and tries to make himself big. Now, if he's a, if he's a proper goalkeeper, he should be down with his hands, just jumping down with his hands and trying to smother it. And he definitely gets a freedom, because once a player's focus near Kellekeeper's arms or by chest, you know what, on the ground, it's a free arm. But it's, I can see both sides of the argument. I can absolutely see both sides of the argument. But when I look at it, I think to myself, Jesus, if, if that's, if that's against us and it's given, I am just, lads, it'll be fucking, I'll give you an example. It's not to deal with the keeper. Trent slides in, clears the ball. I think it's against, is it Sheffield? You know it? I can't remember who it's against. And the player that he takes the ball off, needs Trent in the back of the head. It's every bornly a holy, holy, yeah, that's what it was. Come on, it's actually learned. He needs Trent in the back of the head, falls over and gets a penalty like. Yeah, great points down. Trent has a ball. Yeah, like when he gives the penalty, I'm thinking, yeah, it's a penalty because I actually think Jones, first of all, I thought Jones should be shooting well earlier. But when you, but he should be able to push. Yeah, but when you look back at it and you're slow with down, he is actually, I think he's actually trying to let the ball get away from a little bit because your man's on the back of them. Funny thing is, if he fucking goes down, the chances are he gets a penalty because your man's over the back of him and he's, you know, I'm trying to shoot here and your man's impeding me. And when I watched him, when he gave the penalty, I told myself, yeah, the court has got a little, he should have shot earlier, but he's got a little touch. It's gone through the keeper, keep us clear the middle. But then when the player back, it's like the keeper gets a touch forced. But I see your point and I see care's point, but if the keeper gets a touch forced, that's for it. But then Jones follows on and puts a truly keeper and the keeper takes him out. Is it a penalty? I can see both sides, but I still think if that's the other end and that's given, I am Jesus, I don't know why, because I fucking hate the PJ Mwell and every referee that belongs to him. Well, I think I'm a touched on it. Like, Alison and Kelly had down come out like that. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's the way he comes out from me. He's a goalkeeper. I know, just saying he's probably trying to stay big to block a shot, but he should be getting down and he comes out to me. It's always a close. He looks away and it's always a fucking close and he just clatters into Jones. Like, he gets a nick on that ball. If there was a thing that he comes out and he plays, his foot comes out and he gets a touch on the ball, I'd say you tipping off and rolling through under off his calf and going through, but he gets a touch. Well, I don't think there's enough of a touch on that. I think they made these hoie bars for a penalty show. And I think they're giving themselves headaches. I think there's been plenty of examples. You'd be pissed off if you can see the panel, or you'd have been pissed off if we can see the panel that they can see the today, even though it's a stone waller. You know what I mean? Like, no one's ever happy about conceding the panel. Well, to me, I think that was the clearest panel of the trade on both. Or you don't even give it all trade on boys. Yeah, I think the fact that he makes that little bit of a touch on it. I think if I think if Jones actually touches the bar force and then it hits off the keeper as he comes out and then he hits him, I think it's a penalty because we've seen it before, you know, I got a bit of the ball when you didn't, he was putting a pass and you got a bit of a ball and you're cleaning the middle. I think the fact that the little touch moves towards Jones and then Jones hits it. I think that's what makes that mind up. But I can, listen, I could, I can honestly say, you know, if, if it had been given, I could say here and go, yeah, I can see why it's given, but I can see why it wasn't as well. Do you know what I mean? And I suppose that's not where we should be, is it? We shouldn't know what everything's happening, but it doesn't. And look, Liverpool go in, Liverpool go in one little up. Did anything else happen in the fourth half? Not really. Hey, Matt, how's my goal? Oh, do you have so a goal? Yeah, Matt said he just can talk about that. I didn't see the offside goal. Everybody was, everybody, especially in some of the chats was like, I forgot to say Cody, and it was like, everybody thought it was Cody. I thought it was absolute, but it was actually Salah in the field of nature, he just, not, not a dog Jones, because I think he was man of the match and another, like, he needed to release it a little bit. Yeah, because you can see Salah waiting and waiting and waiting and going to just give me the fucking ball. And if Jones, like, if Jones just takes one less touch and gives it to him, Salah's in, and it's too nail, but it's one of those where, you know, it's a really well-worked goal. It's just that extra touch, you know what I mean? And I think maybe Cody Jones is looking to go on the way, take the extra, which I just dragged the defender a little bit close to me, and then I can put my way in, but these, these things happen. It won't nail half, call him, call him as a bit of a chance, but the end, at the end of the fourth half, but it is only kind of real chance, possibly the game, and you might have one later on. But we're going, we're going to half time one of them, let me come out. I mean, we can see it fairly quickly in the, in the second half, Emma, and then it's a good goal, which else, I'm going to give them credit. But if I'm looking at it from a Liverpool point of view, well, I'm not so much, I'm going to give Jackson a lot of credit for the, for the movie he makes and the run he makes and the finish. But if I'm looking at it from a Liverpool point of view, not enough pressure on the ball, when, when he was a put some true, is a sweet saying or put some true. But it's not enough pressure on the ball, and Kanata is looking at him making that run, he's running behind Van Dyke, I think Kanata should go with him. It's too, it's too close, he's, he's, he's on the blind side of Van Dyke and Kanata should see that and go with him, but it's a good finish. Not that, not that the demo level terms last long, but overall, Emma, if you look at midfield needs on top of that, much better, and a cent a half needs to recognise, you know, he's got running behind, you're a fellow, I need to go with him. And he doesn't, he tries to step and needs his leg hanging there. But it was a wake-up call very early in the second half. Yeah, I think they probably just cut us a little bit cold, because we are wide open space in, in the middle. And I think Virgil actually, not laying blame anywhere, but he comes very close to Kanata. The two of them are about a foot and a half away from each other, and Jackson goes around Van Dyke and, and, and a slid in, isn't it? If I'm remembering it. Yeah, so, so the Chelsea pair breaks into midfield, I think it was so he said, he doesn't go between them, he goes around ball. He actually, he actually stand, he stand behind Kanata. And when Van Dyke makes this step across, I think he's gonna try to step into intercept in front of Jackson, you know, instead of being played with his feet, and Kanata being behind him, I think Van Dyke looks as if I can step in here and intercept. What happens is it's played the other side of Van Dyke. But when Kanata sees, can, for me, I don't know where Van Dyke's gone. That's warm. But when he does make that move, when he makes that move, Kanata should just go out here. I'm not 100% sure here. When he plays him, I'm going with him, and he doesn't go with him. But it's one of those, and I'm sure they look at it and they'll say, right, the next time, if you're not 100%, you just go with the player, that's where, that's all it was. Um, yeah, I think, I think we, we, we got caught cold. It's like 76 seconds, I think is what they said. So at minute 16, into the second half, and I just think we got caught napper, we, we got caught cold, wide open in the scent in, in the middle of the park, where we're, we've been excellent. And this is, so I'm not laying blame at anybody, whoever was supposed to be there, but there's a big gaping hole right in the center circle, where that ball was played in, to Coisele to actually play the ball. And the two defenders come in really close to each other, and then there's that big gap out of Robertson, and that's where Jackson went, and slipped him through. It was a lovely ball through, and a lovely finish as well. And it was kind of nearly, like you said, it was a, it was a wake-up call, and I don't know what the exact timing is for the, for when we hit back, but it's just great to hit back so quickly. I think we hit back within two minutes, but, but like, it's, it's football one on one, isn't it, Keith? You know, if you, if there's no pressure on the ball, don't be looking to play off. So it's, yeah, you know what I mean? Because the player who is under no pressure has the time to look and go, I can put him in there, where if there's pressure on the ball, they're a bit more rusty, they can scan as much, and then, you know, they're playing a bit of a blowing ball in there, and the timing can't be really. But, like Emma said, it's not long before I'll ever pull, get going again, um, ball with Delta Salah, comes inside, um, Nunez thinks he's going to play, and Saba's low thinks he's going to play, because Saba's low goes room and beyond them, and actually when he plays it, Nunez is trying to get back out, because he was expecting the ball and it doesn't come. He tries to get back out. Saba's low, he's nearly ran into the fucking copies, ran that long. He's like the water boy, he ran that fucking Friday on the pitch. And in fairness, Nunez, when the ball's whipped, he knows I'm leaving that, because I know I'm off so I don't come back in. And when I went there, Nunez, he was thinking, hit the fucking thing, what you don't take it in a touch, just hit it. But it's a good touch, and it's a good finish. And I was delivering for him for his overall performance, because at all, you know, you can answer that. I'll say it, and then I'll tell you, I'll tell you the most best player of all of your distance. Boy, boy, boy, boy, country, boy, I'll tell you it was the best player today. And he did deserve it. And I agree with everything you've said there, Garve, we think he takes that touch and it's a little bit heavy, but he's just setting himself. I think he takes it with his left, doesn't he? He takes it with his left. He takes a touch with his left and then gets a crack and walks the back. I think the time and sort of goes across. Sanchez, braille again. I think that's a huge problem with them, goalkeeper's, like, I think he's septic, provoked them for that. But it's a great ball. And when you look back at it, I don't know if it's Malagosto. I think it is Malagosto, who has his hand up for off, saw it. And Cortis Jones is playing. He's just watching Darwin, and Jones is from much deeper. And I tell you, he just says him, zipping, boy, man, he's like, oh, bollocks, you know, but I get me hand down here, because he's in acres of space. And it's not an easy finish, you know, because Sanchez is out on top of him, fairly, but not quickly, I wouldn't say quickly, but he's out on top of him and the angle, it's a difficult enough finish, but he doesn't panic. He's composed and he gets it in. And it's more than he deserves. Because I thought he was, I thought he was brilliant today. And look, whenever we mention Cortis Jones on this show, you get a few big cranks that jump in. I'll never forget one. He absolutely splits opinion like there's no there. Oh, yeah. But one fella Troy, the claim in the comments a while ago, that he's not good enough for a Plymouth, you know, look at him today. Like, he's brilliant today. He's, well, he doesn't release the ball quick enough in certain instances. But what he does is he gets you from A to B quickly, he moves up the pitch, tracks back and off a lot. Well, he called Parama, didn't get a sniff today. And a lot of that was down to Cortis Jones, you know, I think he was brilliant in both the attacking and offensive. So it's always the lawyer from together. I never would think a spot on there. You can say it's important that you get back in front early, you know, you're not waiting, not that you're overly worried that Liverpool can't get back in. But the fact that we deal with quickly, I think, sort of is settled your back in. And it's a slogan to go for them as well. Because they get a goal and they think, Roy, can we soil in stays now? These are getting there. We've seen what happened that forest, you know, the crowd will turn on days, blah, blah, and then boom, we're in the two minutes, y'all back in front again. So I thought it was really important that we done that. And yeah, we were downing Chelsea really, Trent until much more. But I am on my lifestyle, did have a good game today for them. I thought Chelsea, Chelsea impressed me a bit, I have to say. They impressed me as well to a point, but I still think they probably need to be 10% better on the ball. And they definitely need to be 10% better off the ball. You know, like, I think in another game, I think, you know, Aaron is slow. I'm gonna go under him in a minute. But I think when I watched this today, I thought, if we were putting a run of games here, you know, if this was Liverpool, Liverpool are playing, say, if we had these next weekend, I think we'd have more. And I'm not saying, I'm not saying because I think we would have just went in and swept them as well and kept all the ball. I think we would have done exactly the same, but I think in attack on boys, I think we would have killed because it was, before Jata goes off, he's picking up some brilliant positions between their centre backs and their deep-blowing midfielder, and he's actually getting the tone and then Sabo's always running beyond them. Gack was pulling it wide, Sal is looking for a wide, Trent is following her up, Jones is there, and it was just a couple of times where I thought, oh, just, you know, a little bit quicker, I hold for a second, or make that run slightly different. And I think we were putting a run of games, I think Chelsea were in a ward of trouble. And that was just my opinion. On the ball, I thought it was really good. You can see what they're trying to do. You can see a pattern to how they're trying to play. They're trying to play in these little areas where they can get players in and try to hold you, overloads and different things like Sancho and Ghosta was on the left hand, so it wasn't. The team Tor says, I think it was Riz James that had the hand up, and I think he's Roy, I think James was probably still running. Yeah, because Ghosta was left, like, and he switches when Suzanne Vega comes on. Yeah, it was sound very good. All for the kids. All for the kids, absolutely. You know, they're, well, vanity about, but yeah, overall, Chelsea, like, you know, they spent an awful lot of money, and some of these will not be. Yeah, even off a lot of people, like, if you look at Madawaki, I thought it was brilliant. I thought it was really, and have really a threat. And, you know, someone says, there I wasn't convinced by Robertson today. I thought Robertson don't worry. He was against the fella that literally just wanted to get it and fucking tear up every time he wasn't looking to come in soil and play this and play that. That was a bit more Sancho soil, where Madawaki was just like, I'm fucking running at you. And he's fucking fast. I felt fast, powerful, direct. And I think, I think in fairness, I've had things over Robertson, but I think overall today, I think he stood up easily quite well to what was Eytar, their main attack on Tre. Yeah, and by the way, we get to go back. Emma, we go to, let's, let's, your opinion on Jones today, because Eytar, I really thought he was good on the ball. I thought he was great defensively. And going forward, I think he was really bad. I think he was really good. I just think it was a, to see him going out there and being told that Kyle Pariman's yours don't fucking let him go anywhere. He does it. I think Slut says in the press conference after 94% of the time, he does that, but it's a trek all the other way as well. You know, sometimes you can box a player in and go, I've just had to go out this fella, I can't go and follow it as I'm sorry. But it was a complete performance from him. I'm not saying it was the moment made for the performance. What I would say is a mature performance from him, because I, I'm not, I'm not a Jones hater, but sometimes I think that he doesn't show maturity. And he is mature now. He's a dad now. Maybe that's what it is. Only a dad last five days. But yeah, he just sucked to me. Sometimes he can tread a fine line between cocky and arrogance. And he just seemed to have the right blend today. Sometimes it can look a little bit too easy for him. And that's where he kind of gets cut out. But he just did, he did things well today. And he was at the back when he was needed at the back. He was great going forward. Like you said, and it was a mature performance. And it's, somebody said there earlier on that he's never had a bad performance in a big game. I'm, I'd probably struggle to try and think of a time where he's had a, a bad performance in a big game. It was a good point. And, but yeah, I really liked him today. The light that he got his goal, not going in on him, but there was a couple of times where he could have moved it a little bit quicker. But when was the last time he played again? Oh, he started the last game. Wasn't it, but that was two weeks ago. And the thing we call a perma was, and again, somebody else made this point earlier on, he's, he's literally grown up with called perma in the, in the England under twenty ones and on their ages. So he knows the type of player he is. He'll have marked him in training plenty of times before. So it was probably horses for courses today in terms of picking up call perma. I think he did a really good job on him. Yeah, I just think the confidence to have, to do that, to deal with job on call perma and you have to do a job on because call perma is brilliant. But, but, but to have the confidence in himself and the belief to say, well, look, I look after him when, when they have the ball, when we don't took to him to fucking chase me, he wants, if he doesn't, I go on and if you look at the goal, he gets, look, if you look at the penalty, he gets, he's making a run into the box and no one's tracking them because it's the center half of the ends of tackling them. And then if you look at the goal, he gets, he's the one steaming in from the back and no one feels. He's the penalty that wasn't given. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. He's in, he's in the look at the area, he's in for app up to goal itself then. As the ball's coming in, he's making a run from deep and there's no set to half paying attention to him. There's no midfielder running with him. But you could guarantee with Cortis Jones there, if Kyle Palmer's making that run, Cortis Jones will be in match. And listen, Cortis Jones will have a game like that today and he might be a six out of ten during the week, or he might be a six and a half out of ten in the weekend. That can happen. But when, you know, if Cortis Jones was terrible today, it was terrible, but what I thought he was, like, he was man of the match today. There's no, I don't think there's some, no two ways about it. Salah gets a goal and an assist, but I think Cortis Jones is probably the man of the match. And Keith Emotion from Angela, he's been a cool customer up until Palace when he fucking goes mental on the soil. But today was really like, you know, yeah, it was a different soil to him. I'm not against it. I'm not against it. We thought he was going over the bat at the ref at the end and all. So I was like, I was hoping, hoping for that. And he gets, gets all back those new boys, Paul. And yeah, it looks like people compare, we've gone from having yoga club, I mean, now so animated and even club clipped his own wings, didn't he, after about two years of over celebrating, he started rained it in. And people thought slot was going to be more like Rafa, you know, like the emotionless, you know, writing in the fucking now pad when you are scoring last minute winners or whatever. He's gonna have bits of emotion on my scene and it is good. The one where Darwin Nunez gets fucking considered to fail for Melbourne, how far sorry for children, I think Suzanne Vega again, at the end. And it's never a fail. And Darwin's gone mad and he panted a bench and slots blade and waving his arms and hitting their own knowledge. He's gone abey about that. But I'm always saying that, you know what I mean? What I'm always saying that, and I think little things like that, once it's not fake, I'm once it's not, you know, overly emotional. I think Liverpool fans will appreciate that. Because they look, you know, they look at a little bit of character, maybe, from their managers. You don't want them being fake, you know, the Michaela Tete sort of falseness belt, I feel it. You don't want that. But we just look that little, little drop of emotion, you don't want them being too emotional. But all I like to say, you know, they all like to say, I think he, he's starting to come into his own, he's starting to understand, you know, he's starting to imagine. Oh, he's starting to look at his fucking referees every week. Well, that's what I mean, but he's trying to understand the, the fucking the lay of the land. It's stupid. The overall. It's outrageous. It should be, you know, um, like it definitely is that he's definitely looking on what the fuck, but I'll put up with this for six games and then wear some of the stuff I like head scratching. And now just now he's literally gone. He's been, he's done the full course. He's done. He's finished this course. He has a certain and he's looked at me and now this is bollocks. And I'm going to have to point out. And in fairness to him, he does look like he's going to go and believe him back to the ref. He goes and shakes his hand in. Yeah, little smile shakes hand, but in the press conference, he mentions the referee's decisions again, as if to say, I'm fucking letting his know here, by the way, and I've no problem with that. Because people used to lash club over our club, just a club that, and then whatever he said, usually torn down to be right. Yeah, exactly. Someone else would say it a few weeks later and they'll all be championing it. Oh, yeah. Pretty brave. Pretty brave to say this. Yeah. How could it say something and they'd be all over them, like a rush? Yeah. And the told you a club probably said, six months previous, yeah, coconut coils, as I'm feeling atmosphere talk should quiet down after this. It goes to show fans kept up held over the games that really matter. I read the games that really need it. I've said I've said this since the start of the season, I was there on the fourth song game of the season. It's not a lack of atmosphere. I think it's a fan base looking to what we're doing, how we're doing it, and how to be comfortable with it. That's my take on it. From the couple of games we've been over there this season. That's a big, big part of it. But I think when it comes to these games, Chelsea don't like them. Never have, never will, you know, and the fans just go right. That's it. We don't give a bollocks how we're playing. We don't give a bollocks what the little intricacies is. We just need them. We just hate them and we let them know that we hate them. But against that, I think, honestly, I think when we look at these games like Chelsea, if the crowd go on like that for a lot of the games, just make themselves go on like that for a lot of games, I think we end up being a lot more comfortable in games. And you know, you can, the fans can take a break for the last 24 minutes because Java's done. So there's a bit of two on the front, two on the front and that. Before we move after officiating, I looked at one of the worst decisions of the day was when Moi Mansi was on Vega. Again, I think it was maybe it was someone else I'm obsessed with Suzanne at the moment. Yeah. Dragon Mo Salah, right? Dragon Elvam. Arms around them, pulling them and throwing them. And the loins man is standing looking at it and doesn't give a foul and tells them to get up and play on. That's second me because it happens all the time. Mo Salah gets officiated different than any other player or you've ever seen in that league. It's mad. But it's not on their league. I was at Champions League game two weeks ago and the left back of Bologna honestly was trying to fucking take a jockey back off. This fell off the whole game, right? Yeah. At one stage, the bar got played down right in front of us and Salah is standing there looking at this bar coming in. Yeah, man comes up behind, puts his two arms up around his chest, maybe puts him in a full Nelson, right? And then just literally starts walking backwards with Bologna Salah. As Mo Salah is trying to hold his ground and you don't take the ball and your man just keeps walking back and then just collapsing on the ground with Salah and the ref was and the loins man by the way, both of them there, you know what I mean going. Now that's absolutely fine. But you see the thing years, right? If that's going to happen fair enough, but you'll see something then and even on Liverpool play, you might see Diaz getting kind of dragged or something and they blow a whistle and you go, you've given Liverpool a foul there, but the one over here, your man is literally assaulting and it's OK. In the game, Reece James gets caught in the fourth half on the edge of their box. He's runned across and I think it's a buzz that comes in and does fucking no contact. Boom, whistles are already on the way up to the blade and melt when the ref sees him go into trouble. I'm not saying it's an agenda against Liverpool. I'm just saying that was a foul for Newton. The new owners want to mention that slot went down, it's a foul against Liverpool for Newton, but then you see the Salah when where he's getting fucking man-handled and all bended and you're getting Newton for it. It's so frustrating and I get one against Gavin Burch as well for the fair shoulder. Yeah, and overall commentary doesn't help because he stokes this for you. Yeah, well, I get I get to him in a minute. Overall, I think you can go on about the penalties and one of the different things, but overall, I don't think the referee has control in our game at all. Ah, he's deplorable. He's fucking a pal. He's an awful ref and I knew he jumped. Go on, you two talk with that. Well, I batter this dog, is that all right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Has broke stone many a rare game since the the club. He's the one who gets club, the club hamstring when the hamstring against spores. Yeah, no, I never like, I never like hearing his name, whether it's the referee, whether it's for any of them. Yeah. No, look, he's not the only name that you don't like here. Do we look like him in particular? And I just thought he was absolutely awful today, awful. The two shoulders, I can't get away from the two shoulders. And the but look, not to move off because I'll let go have a say on Brooks as well. The two shoulders did it for me. I put a message in that says, we may as well just call a fucker basketball at this stage. Yeah. Like it's a shoulder to shoulder, I bolted up and he's blown his whistle. And like you said, then you've got the reach change where he's not even touched and just throws himself to the ground. So it gets the it's just the inconsistency is is shocking. And I know that we're probably going to get onto it and I'm going to stop talking now. But I do also want to talk about the commentary around it. Nearly tell him what the referee should do. And it's just well, I don't think it's so I don't think it's a conspiracy theory. We've spoke about this and all it's happening like that. It's not conspiracy theory. It's incompetence by these officials. It comes from the top. Howard Web is the head of the PGML. Well, he'll say, well, I'm only in there two years. Yeah, a man before him. What was his name? Moik Roy Lee at the plorable referee in this day, a coward, a fucking absolute jellyfish of a human. He is the head of the referee is a fit that he's a human. He's I look like Squidward that would laden soon Bob Squarepants. He doesn't know if I'll show you back. If he's listening, I apologize. Big funny. We don't know if you apologize. It comes from the top. It comes from the top and it's incompetence. And it's never we've said this for that. Never held accountable for that incompetence. And it's never ever going to change until the held accountable, which will be never. You see, my thing on it is that, and you can go on about consistency and big decisions and different things. If they're when they want their shoulders that fella, right? And he gives a free. That's fair enough. But make sure you give a free throughout the game of shoulder to shoulder comes up and a fella hits the ground. Because they're much at the only show the soil. And listen, he's much stronger than that guy. So if the colloid, I'm not allowing him to use a strength against that player. And I'm not going to allow anyone to use a strength against that player. So that's where the basketball show probably comes in, and that's fair enough. But my thing is on it, how can a referee look at two guys going shoulder to shoulder? And one just happens to be stronger than the other in that instance, right? And give a free, right? Give a free. But I promise you, if the ball goes down, that's all it. And down when known as shoulders into whoever it was, he hit was a bad. It was a bad issue. I think I'm way man. And he goes over and body shield comes away with the ball. He's not getting it. He's not getting that free. I promise you that. He's not getting it. And again, before anyone goes, Oh, that's just red into glasses. And what I'm talking about is a striker dealing with a defender versus a defender dealing with a striker. They make different decisions based on what area the pitch the ball is in. Do you get me? Do you know what I'm saying? Look, and it's big decisions. You kind of got already consistent and anything. I have this big thing about the gray area they live in. And I still think they deal. But it's the smaller decisions that can be sometimes even more annoying. You know, like he hasn't been in touch. Oh, the whistle's up. The whistle's up. You know, and that's it. He's made this decision. That's it. And and what happens then is you lose control of the game because you nearly start forgetting that they give something for that area. Because you're dealing with that much, that that's how you lose control of a football match. And don't get me wrong. He gives a penalty Liverpool at the penalty. He possibly could give them for the Salawan. He gives a penalty for for another one. Then it has to be reversed. But those small little things in the game are gone. Literally, four minutes ago, this has happened. And you've done something completely different. So where that's where the consistency comes from. And that's where the builds up there. And when a big decision goes wrong, it's like, well, what are you expecting these pricks? Because you've literally had two boys shoulder reach over in four minutes, and one was a fail and one wasn't. And that's where it goes back to club. Our slot slot is now gone. This is fucking nonsense. You know what I mean? Absolutely not that nonsense. Wait till you get on me. I was in a big game. So it's that fell down count up until about the 78th minute. And then yellow cards get dished out like fucking confetti for the slowest game, but put himself into trouble because he lets her away all the game and the players keep doing it. Their fucking joke useless. But Anthony Taylor referees see against Arsenal Liverpool against you. You know it against Liverpool. He referees those games differently to like, uh, Southampton against Liverpool. Yeah, he let he allows, he allows this in these games, whoa, rules are the rules regardless of the fucking game. Like, yeah, but they just implement the rules. They're in the low circumstances. If two boys are going shoulder to shoulder, you know, parallel to each other, shoulder to shoulder and one go goes down. Is it freaky? If they were known as hits by the shield between the arm and the shoulder blade, you're going, well, that's in the back. That's in the back, right? But I think it's a follow on to it. You know, when the defender gets ahead of a forward and gets a little touch and he goes down or puts his body in front and a forward kind of puts his hand on his back and then he hits the deck and gives a free. But this shoulder to shoulder thing is just like, you know, any of us can be honest enough to go out in fairness now. He's at the fucking, he's at the, you know, he's at the hitting them in the back there, but he's not hitting them in the back. He's literally, he's literally shoulder to shoulder with him. But he just, for me, it's like, here's four situations you've made a decision. And I can nearly guarantee of them four situations happen later in the game. You probably make a different decision than all four. And that's where the issue comes from. That's basics. That's basics of the football game. And like you said, I mean, you either do the rules and it's much easier for a referee to just go by the rules and make the decisions rather than, I let this go a little bit because it's a Holy Pro for the game or I let this go. No, rules are rules. If you stick by them, you're absolutely fine. On the, on the commentary slash before we go to commentary, before we get to that, I don't know what going to get to that, back to the Arsenal game, the Arsenal fans reactions to the decision that Saliba Red card, which you see them trying to claim that Jared Gillitt is the VAR and he gets him sent off because he's a Liverpool fan. And we'll play Liverpool next that Howard Weber sitting in the stand. And Jamie Carter got our bleeding points. They said, and Richard Gill, Richard Fucking, Harry Hans. What's his name? Richard is the gold-held web and he's on the phone. And then it's and they're like, oh, Howard Webb intervened there. That was a red card. Do you know what I mean? There's no conspiracy against you either. Do you know what I mean? It's just shit refs. Doesn't matter where they're from, I who they supposedly support. The decision was really cool. Do you think do you want to think, right? If Harold Webb is under pressure, right? And they're getting slammed every week, which they are, quite rightly, right? Do you want us to think, Howard Webb is going into a football ground and saying, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to go in here and I'm just going to pick up my phone in front of the phone with 60 cameras and start making decisions for the VAR. Do you honestly think that happened? The decision now. Yeah, like, we get players, players for the love of gods. Do you know what I mean? And did you see him on his summer day? He's been listening to the feed. He has no way of contact. It was one way contact. It was then just he was just listening to him and saying he texting a lot of bollocks. But moving on slowly, he's on that Gary Neville showy on the overlap. He comes in and there are cozy and up to him and, you know, nobody challenges him on that. And he's cracking little jokes about content, just decisions, all drink me coffee. So I don't have the answer. And you're like, what are you just giving this fucking credit and air to him? Do you know what I mean? Like, he's headed a referee's association. Yeah. But you have to remember, they don't want to talk after matches about the season. So I don't want to hear them on a big, cozy chat on a fucking Monday morning. But the thing, but the thing is, Keith, I have to really was the as instant away at sports last year, right? Gary Neville and Jamie Carrier have a little bit of a pop off the PGMO. Right. And quickly, we're in 24, probably less than 24 hours, all of a sudden the tune changed. Because they were told, they were basically told, listen, don't be fucking doing this. Are we? Well, just coach our fate. And that'd be the end of it. And ever since then, whatever I scored, tell you about VA or, or Howard Webb, or anything, you may as well be fucking listen to white noise somewhere. It'll make much more of a fucking sense to you. Honestly, that's how bad it is. On the commentary. And now on the commentary, right? If you you have to come, this is my thing. You have to come to the realization and you have to become content with this. Gary Neville, in my opinion, is on score for Liverpool games for one reason and one reason not only. The reason he should be on it, right, is because he should be sitting there as a cow comment here, telling you stuff about the game as it goes on, given his opinion, as it goes on, and maybe teaching you something, maybe educating you a little bit, maybe doing something like that. That's what he should be on for. But he's not. He's on it for clicks and engagement. Okay. He doesn't like Liverpool. He's never looked Liverpool. He shouldn't be on the games. Right now, he shouldn't be on them. It's way too moist. Okay. It's biased against Liverpool all the time. And he's not bringing anything to it anymore. Like the situation with it with the penalty on Jones earlier, the one where we were not too sure is on it. Go back and just listen to him. Zone it and listen to him only. And it's all, and you can hear the disappointment of the penalty. And then it's all, "Oh, hold on. He might actually have something. I think he got this." And it's like, "Oh, that I would jail. This is amazing." Right? And I think the most annoying thing about it is, right? I don't like him. I never have. Once he stepped out to it, I've never liked him. And then he couples with me and like, you know, the post, the boy for fucking labor and stuff like that, which is, which is a nonsense, right? But my thing on it is that if this was a goal that was on school that donned the odd soccer Saturday where he was in a ground given commentary, and then he turns up on cold cars and you're going to go, "Oh, he's a bit mad that fella." They've put him in there. He's a bit mad. And we all just have to realize that it's all about engagement and clicks now. I'd be not all right with it because you're paying for it. You're meant to be paying for an insight on football games for these people that are professionals. But it's the fact that he's the poster boy, the main man for football at school, and this is what he's reduced to. Now, they argue that he's not, that he's not reduced to anything. This is Gary Neville and he's given his views. But that's come on. If you, it's the greatest. I challenge anyone that's not a level profile even to watch this and go, "It's this normal." Again, it's not normal. No, his exact words for that penalty was, before it was, I think VAR is going to have to come in here, was his exact words. And not only that, for their goal, where it was like they were looking, it was obviously, he couldn't wait. Because obviously, he hears the VAR decision beforehand and he could not wait to announce that this goal is going to be given. He's probably, I don't know whether anybody in the chat is in. Can you see the country from the main standard or that? Because I guarantee he's sitting there in his nip, we're preparing a nipple clamp on or something. When he's getting this good news out that Chelsea of Scotland, it's just not only that, right? He went in on the atmosphere a couple of weeks ago at Anfield. It's not been great now for the last couple of years. Then today, it was unbelievable. And now he's changed to saying that, "Do you think the crowd put the pressure on the referee to give that penalty?" And he's just like, "What do you do?" Seriously, it's just... I think this warrants him when the penalty is given his... He's being pressurized by the crowd here. It's scandalous, what he says. And look, I think he's brilliant. I'm at the 90s and early 2000s. The referees are pressurized by Al Trafford. So, just... I actually used to really like him when he kept behind the screen, the big huge iPad on a Monday night, and he'd talk about defending. And then he'd even kind of... he'd step from behind and he'd show you what body shape you'd need to have for defending. That was all there. Oh, both the lads are gone. Geez, don't know what's going on there. Hold on and get them back in. Oh, we're broken. We're completely broken. I don't know what's going on here. The lads are trying to get back in and it ain't woken. It ain't woken. Hold on and try to get keep back in again. It's really sorry about this. This is the internet. This is the internet, the magazine. Are we there now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't know what big it is. It's a character chore of a man and all it is and there is driving people to listen to his podcast. Did you even take a breath? Did you just keep talking while you were off screen and just... Professional. That's what that man does. All the rewards that again is professional. That's all it is. It's just social media. It's for people like me to watch them on TikTok. That's all it is. Like shares, all that kind of stuff. I come here, held web on what's stick to football should always have an ex-magician players on there. Just to be clear. I see this nonsense when it's Liverpool, Illinois, and they're having little gags and jokes with each other. You should be able to get a commentator should be in there. It should have a main commentary and you have a co-commentary. The co-commentary is an ex-player. You should be there giving his opinion on the game and the things. You look at the American football referee, for example, the NFL and you see Tony Romo, ex-player, excellent analyst Roy and commentator, a caller commentator, whatever you call a co-commentary over there. He is brilliant because he just tells you about it. We've said on the show before, Moike alone's his daughter's dishwasher, but when he talks about strikers and movement and things like that, you listen to him, and you're like, "That's excellent, in sweet." We're not getting that off-guard, he never, you're getting a fella here. He was just hoping and praying for decisions against certain teams or for certain teams. He has this thing that he doesn't want Liverpool or Manchester City to win. When it comes down to it, he favors Manchester City, I live up hill and that's a fact. Arsenal are at his post- up-boy team now at the moment. The voice changes when those decisions against the Arsenal. When it's against Liverpool, it's that, "Ooh, and as you said, he's don't tell you that the via and over tone in this decision." I think he's a disgrace, I think, category is bad as one, but not, no, he's not as bad as one because he's not as prominent as one. Neville is there all the time. I don't think he should be commentating on Liverpool games, but as you said, Gav, it's all about clicks and engagement and because it has those talking and it'll have people on Twitter or ex-formally known as Twitter talking about it, that's all they want. They have shows that you have children now, that's all they want. But you see, there's my whole team on there. If Gary Neville was in studio for these games and you can go and go, "Oh, he's a bit boy, he's in the studio, he's blah, blah, blah, blah," you know, I just think it's a complete lack of professionalism. That's what I think it is. Why can't he just watch a game and just call it as he sees it? He's not calling as he sees it. What you're seeing from him is, he can actually nearly feel his mind walking as to and feel his emotion about decisions for or against Liverpool and people will say, you know, "Oh no, that's just because you're Liverpool fan." It's clearly not. Like literally, just go back and listen to him on the big decision, just and take the decision itself over, just listen to him. I find the hard way people come back and go, "Oh no, I think he was quite good on that decision." It's mad to watch and the fact that he's the guy doing the Gary Neville podcast after game, the over lap is all about Gary Neville, the stick to football thing is Gary Neville sitting on his own there and the other lads are just fucking there for the crack. You know, and this is the guy that's on the pedestal here and this is what you're being reduced to a half hour on a Sunday or whenever Liverpool play and he happens to be there. Like I said, if it was somebody else where they're a big part of Skye and I got a little bit of fucking mad, right? Grandpa, you might as well go back to fans on. Yeah, 100%. Genuinely, you might as well go back to fans all right and say, "Listen, Peter, you're commentating today, you're commentating today, but what you're going to do is instead of Gary Neville or Jamie Carragher or whatever, sitting beside you, you're just going to cut back to fucking make the Liverpool fan and jog the fucking Chelsea fan. What are you thinking that boys and the two boys are going, "Oh, no, fucking way." And the other fell is going, "It is a penalty. Well, thanks for that lads. I'm back to Peter Dorey. Look, that's basically, that's what you should do. If that's what you want to do, if that's the, if that's where you want to get the attention and the interaction from, go and do that because then at least people, at least you're not trying to make a fucking age out of people by thinking, "Oh, Gary Neville that is on here today and Gary will tell you something. Gary's telling you a fuck all. Gary's sitting there in emotional folk and rec watching Liverpool play. And if they win, he's all over the place." And listen to him talking about Manchester United, I'm fucking anything. He talks about them, Lloyd, they're about to resurrect and they come in the Phoenix from the flames and all that. Manchester United deserve to have the biggest stage. Manchester United deserve to have the best train of Manchester. Manchester United deserve fucking nothing. They get them what they deserve. Absolutely fuck all because they're useless. They're a big club. They've had two good managers and apart from that, they've had fuck all history. They are a joke of a club, small club, don't care about them. He goes on about them, Lloyd, they're the most relevant thing in the fucking world football. But he talked about Liverpool who have been competing, who have been competitive, could not wait to rule Liverpool out of any toilet race in the last few years. Lloyd, now that Arsenal have come out and aware it's Arsenal City, Arsenal City, Arsenal City. The stay in his hands for Liverpool and the absolute show he talks about Manchester United, and I'm only joking about the Arabic club and all that. The way he goes on about them and the way he goes on about was… Thank God you clarified that by the way. I had to clarify it because I know there'll be a lot of Manchester United fans listening and I will be upset with more than that. That's a citation, that's a lot of people. I actually said it's a sad thing in square accomplishing the goal here. They've got 15 minutes out of us here talking about him. It's getting engaged and it doesn't have to be good coming to the country. No, I completely agree. What I'm saying is where is the standard's gone? Where is the standard's gone? Where is it too much to ask to stick on the match? Peter Drolly's commentating his excellence. He's excellent. He's commentating and he's excited of Chelsea attacking, he's excited about people attacking, someone does something brilliant. He's great words to them and stuff like that. You're going to go, "You know what, Peter Drolly's commentary there is fucking amazing. We've conceded the goal, but his fucking commentary is really going to be listened back. But there's too much to ask that he can just sit a guy beside him. When they go across and go, "Gary, what you think of that?" "Oh, I'm not too sure about it. You might get a touch. I'm not too sure about it." You know, but instead of going, "Oh, oh, hold on." The hope in his voice when he sees your man Santra gets touched in the bar. It's not kind of, "Oh, I was wrong there, actually. Hold on. That might be something. There's a hope in the movies." And he can hear it. And that's how the cars can. And it comes across. And that's all I'm saying is there's people out there paying good money, the paper's going to sit down and watch it. And this is what you're being treated to. And don't get me wrong. He could be in the studio on Monday night, break it down. The court is John's performance are breaking down. And you're going to go, "It makes a lot of sense." Makes a lot of sense. Because he's actually out of the emotion of it. He's too emotional. That's probably what the problem is. He's actually too emotional. I'm unsoable. Listen, leave until I just have to go back to what I usually do. And let's just watch it. I'm fucking you. See, Storm actually caught me out today because I had to end up watching it on score. I wasn't happy with it at all. We just don't listen to him anymore. Anyway, look up who stayed top of the league. Good result for them. I actually beat them. See, he's a great one. Bit of controversy at the end of that game as well. I think the goal is absolutely fine, but the lead up to it is a few bits, but Bernardo Silva is in the game. He's brilliant at the way he gets out of his way just as the header is about to take place. But the only thing I would say is, and I might be getting ahead of myself and people might call me too. I'm fucking optimistic away with the fairies. There's not the fair in this league. I genuinely believe that. I know C have won again there, but I think C dogged out win against Fulham. I think the dogged out won again against Wolves there today. And Aaron's not being beaten. Governor, we bet Wolves we were told we weren't playing anybody. You're not playing anybody. They play Wolves and they get a fucking 95th minute winner against them. We'd be a palmet, and we were told we weren't playing anybody. Aaron's not getting beaten. Do you know what I mean? I don't really go along with it. I think you just have to beat what's put in front of you. You beat what's there, and it depends on the time you play them. Ipswich at home. At 12 told the kickoff on the fourth day of the season, it's the hardest time you ever going to play Ipswich this season. Unless they're in a relegation dog for you at the end, there's no harder time to play them. And that's a fact. Early kickoff, fourth day, promoted club back after 20 odd years at home. But the hardest time you'll ever play them. You know, just I've been saying it for the last little while, and I think that Aaron's some result today. And I'm not saying this to be on them or that Aaron's result. You know, they could well be Liverpool next weekend. But I'm saying just looking at the way teams are playing and they're getting results. You have to give city credit, they're getting the results. But I don't think you can continue one like that all the time. You get me. I don't think you can. I think you get, you get caught at some stage and just looking at them, Liverpool aren't perfect. But I don't think there's anybody in that league where you're going to go. They're perfect. They're close to perfect. And we just can't reach that level at the minute. See, you may well kick on. I asked them, they will kick on. But Liverpool might as well. And I think as of now, we're just approaching the quarter of the way into the season. Next week, I'll make the quarter just just on the quarter, Mack. And I'm looking going, no, I wouldn't fear much in that league. I'm not saying Liverpool will run away with it. But I wouldn't be sitting there going, no matter what we do, we can't get past them or we can't get past them. Right now, it could be different than halfway point, but that's where I am. Anyway, around 10, 10, 15 games, you start seeing what way the league is shaping up here. It's going to be where can we talk? I know it's coming up to half 11. Ah, folks, like what? Arm its golf. Arm its golf. Arm its forced golf. Yes, from the corner. Unbelievable. Discard that whether Arsenal have 10 on the pitch or not. That's probably one of the best world corners I've seen. Probably the best corner I've seen since was a city scarred against us with the broiler. Yeah, the near post one. I'm filled out then, was it? The near post one. Yeah, I thought it was brilliant. It was a great call. And it was actually a well-watered on that lister as well for all you to scar the the winner against Soutantha. Soutantha. And by the way, a man fat out. It's a fat way fat out. I keep an eye on him. Quality. Is he? Oh, unbelievable. He was revealing to him a couple years ago. He was only 16, but he was playing for some blade in the academy in Ghana. And I think his age and came out said he was going to live off people and he ended up going to spawn in Lisbon. Oh, he's I will do the lightning. Is he? He came on and changed that game yesterday. I once got back to the I didn't see the hoylids of the lister, Soutantha. But then Soutantha tuned it up. And, you know, again, they're not managing games at all. And for the vast majority of their games, the way they're trying to play is madness. And then when you get to the managing games, so they're going straight back down. You're an absolute howler in that game. I think it was about two, three minutes before Lester go up and get the equalizer penalty. Roy and Frazier, I think Paul's ready back, but like literally a few minutes beforehand from a corner, the exact same thing happens at the other end. And your man's nearly pulling the jersey off the back of the Soutantha player and Norton's given the other end, it's given as a penalty like shot them. I'll try to read something before we go. It's from the minister for football and integrity and all our Cardi Neville. Cardi Neville, man's seat get over the loin, but main challengers Arsenal can still respond to win the Premier League. Cardi assesses the Premier League toilet race after 10 player Arsenal are beaten to bomb it. Man's seat grab the last guys victory at Wolves and Liverpool beat Chelsea to one. So still, he's not putting Liverpool into any conversation as a challenger. It's Arsenal are the challengers to Man's seat. Look, it doesn't give a fair opinion. I think he's emotional, but I actually think he's afraid what was your friend say about him. And if you're in that position at school, you need to be able to discuss everything and he's just clearly not. Do some predict what a king shall happen. He predicts what he wants. Hopes will happen. Yeah, almost a whole percent. Anyway, chillin next week when Cardi Neville's Blues will be a way to come home to somebody else and let's hope you gotta win and share. Yeah, he was this man's seat. No, Chelsea. Yeah. Well, whoever it is. Yeah, no, he was. Hopefully, the victory points and Cardi Neville will be in battle for him when it's Blues. Hand to the plane, if they're not playing Newcastle, one of his nemesis, he looks new. He looks new. It's a fan of the teams being able to sport. Watch the way up the legs and all that. So I think they'll castle in Chelsea at the other soft spot for the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You take a draw. It won't go wrong. Happy. Yeah. Anything else before we go? No, I'll go. We enjoyed that. Yeah, flu boy. Yeah, it is key to anything else before we go. No, no. That was a good show with a long show. Well, an hour and 30 minutes was about an hour, 20 and an hour when they consider the amount of in that issues we had. Yeah, we were part of the professionals, ever the professionals. We kept going. We kept going. Another feather to our boat. I was all over the place. There's loads of feathers on me, we would say. And soon as I'm vague. She wrote a song in the filter. Stuff did going to break down a little bit tonight. It was freezing here and there. The lad just fell off while he's creating at one stage. We're like, no, not enough is enough. We managed to get a background track in what's horrendous weather in order that the minister of the internet held up fair play to it for the majority. It held up and want to give a shout out to football proises. They do help us out here at the talking cup. The link for the latest proise is in the description where they are watching now or listening back later. It is two tickets, two hospitality tickets to live up over this rare Madrid at Anfield. And these tickets are flowing out of the door by the way. If you want to be able to chance the windows, check them out in the description. I think it's 294. But they're flowing. So if you want to get in on that, get in on it. Just make sure you're available for that day, for that game. Don't be on point tickets if you're not available. If you are and you'll be able to make it to Anfield for that game, check out the 20 in some proises there as well. Sign jersey from different players as well. As that, our charity links are in the description. If you want to help us out, fans apart from field banks in Liverpool and the Lawy Hills in Dublin. And it feels one for a Lawerling Hospital, the Children's Hospital. The Children's Hospital is also there as well. So if you want to help us out in any way, check out the links in the description. Pick up what you want to help out with or pick one where you want to buy the ticket and walk away. We're trying to get our members shows in the morning time back up and running from tomorrow. So hopefully, we should be back at 10 am in the morning. The air members are only shows. They are a bit of football. They are a bit of crack. It's a half an hour of me just waffling to fucking all the members who are just throwing shitty one to talk about. We have a cup of tea and get ourselves going for the rest of the day. So like, subscribe, comment, become a member if you want to get involved in them. And we will have a show tomorrow night. Look them back on the weekends football and then, surely, we'll probably play and choose the Wednesday and Thursday this week. So we cover all of that and there was much that we can between now and next weekend. That has been the talking cup. Thanks to Emma. Thanks to Keith. Thanks everyone in the chat. It's been a pleasure talking a bit over in it. This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. [BLANK_AUDIO]
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