BiKitzur Shulchan Aruch
Ep. 922. How Much Time Does One Have to Respond with Amen After a Bracha?
How Much Time Does One Have to Respond with Amen After a Bracha?
Welcome everybody. Shannonman922 getting back to our Hilchus Baruchis. Okay, so we are in the middle of talking about the halachas of saying "entering". Our main similar rage test of the extreme extreme importance which we'll talk a little bit about that also, Bizbousa Shhem. We spoke about last share the reference to little children below. How to work with that. The question is how much time do you have, right? A person says a bracha. Do I have to hear the whole bracha? We saw from the Seiferschaeder Lachate. You have to hear the HaShem's name. Do you have to, of course, Hashem? Do you have to hear the end? You have to hear the beginning? You have to hear the whole thing? And once I heard it, how much time do I have? And so on. So the Seiferscha Tufus, he brings down, we spoke about if you finish together with the Khazen, right? Depending if it's the same bracha, not the same bracha. If it's not the same bracha, definitely you say a main. If it's the same bracha in general, we don't say a main, there were a few exceptions. But he says like this on page Tuf Tuf Tufus Zion, actually Ois Aleph, at the end of Ois Aleph in our sim and Rach says, well, he says, him Seim, who bracha, Miss Yachad Imoy, Seim Ashas. Okay, so he's talking about the Chats, Eko Audem, Acha, and Bracha, Acheris. But the way HaShem goes, Motolana is, Omein, Al-Birchaz, Khaveri, Afapish, the male, HaShem, Al-Birchaz, Azmein. Right, so if it's a different bracha, so that's what we said, right? Let's say your davening took a dissimilar, whatever you're finishing, your Stabakhat has it's finishing, you know, Bracha, Yama, whatever. That's what he says, if you finish together, Yachad Imoy, Seim Ashas, Eko Audem, Acha, Bracha, Acheris, Bracha, Acheris, a different bracha that according to everybody's Motolana's Omein, Al-Birchaz, Khaveri, then he answered the bracha on your friend. Yach, you can say, "Ameni, if you know you just finished the bracha," like we said, but it's on your friends' bracha because Bracha Acheris is a different bracha. Al-Mutolana's Omein, Al-Birchaz, Khaveri, Afapish, the male, HaShem, Acheris, Umein, Acha, Brachais, no, looks like you're answering a main on yourself, but your friend made a different bracha, so that's fine. It's only when it's the same bracha way, it becomes problematic. Now, so now he says, Imlacha Seim, who, Esperchaz, Avershir, Tarkade Dibur. So now the thing is, Vim, Vimlacha Seim, who, Esperchaz, he finished the bracha, the person finished the bracha, Avershir, Tarkade Dibur, and it passed by the amount of time, Tarkade Dibur, like we've spoken about Cholmalaq and Rabbi, he brings down over here, it's roughly between two to three seconds. So in general, we'll see, we have to talk about that a little bit, the amount of time a person has after a bracha to say, Imlacha Seim, and his Tarkade Dibur in general, right? In other words, by the time the bracha finished, the person said a bracha, Avershir, I have Tarkade Dibur, those two between two and three seconds Cholmalaq and Rabbi, Vishama, Esperchaz, now, if that time passed, Vishama Seim, you heard the Shats, whoever it is, the dabbling, the Shats, or whatever, the Chaz is saying, Avershir, it was, or somebody else ending off. If you look at the same bracha, the same bracha as you're making, but you finished, let's say, it was already, you finished it Tarkade Dibur, that amount of time before, between the two to three seconds before. In other words, you finished the bracha, then the Tarkade Dibur passed. Cholmalaq and Rabbi, the two to three seconds passed, right? And your friend finished off the same time. He says, the Kisholai, Ona Amin, Ahrev Amin, you could answer Amin over there, somebody says on the bottom, interesting thing, he says, he brings from a Shlamiz Alman, oh, so he brings from a Shlamiz Alman, Sheim, Avershir, Tarkade Dibur, if that amount of time passed, in other words, you finished your bracha, it's the same bracha as the chazim. That's what we're saying, it's the same bracha as the chazim. You finished together with the chazim, but you finished together with the chazim, the same bracha, the same bracha, the dain, and the sense of Shlamiz Alman, he brings on the bottom, and oh, he's five, Leikhala, Amin, Meipi Reifatibur, most of the Tibur, most of the congregation, most of the people in Shula are still saying, "Amin, Yakhalani, Amin," you could jump in and say, "Amin," because your Tarkade Dibur, that amount of time, right, we've spoken about in the past, Tarkade Dibur is sort of like the cutoff, that's the amount of time where you lose the connection, but so for your bracha, you lost the connection, but that's the Tibur, in other words, the people in Shula, everybody's Reif, most of the people, are still saying, "Amin," still answering, "Amin," so sort of like a catch-22, you're hopping it really quick, "vesha mein sashat sravelin," that would still be, you're still in the time frame of the Hadzensbrach, in other words, your bracha, it doesn't look like you're answering, "Amin," and your bracha, because already Tarkade Dibur passed, those Shula, Malaikum, Reif, the your bracha, the two to three seconds passed, but the Tibur is still answering, "Amin," it's because it takes a drop longer, right, so you can still say, "Amin," even though it's the same bracha, that's what he says, "Vin, Leikhala, siam, hu esper hose," over, she had Tarkade Dibur, right, for Shoma, esa shaats, and you heard the shaats, "Achah, havei rea, havei rea," somebody else, "siam, a feelu, ou esper hose," even the same bracha, "Kishalai, aun aacharav, aun man," you could still say, "Amin," as long as, like, like he brings from Rishla Muzamun, but as long as the people are still saying, you know, "Amin," ensure, because it's still part of the same time frame, so that's important thing to keep in mind, it's only over there whereby, and he brings from the lussian of the Mishaburi, he says, "Apantar, dafkim siam, vibas achas," it's only whereby you finish together, right, the lussian of Mishaburi says, "Siam, dafkim siam, vibas achas," it's only whereby you finish together at one time with the chazin or your friend or whatever, the same bracha, you finish at one end, vas achas laiyan, "Amin," then you don't say, "Amin," but if you're able to, if it's slept out another couple of seconds, you could hop in the Amin, and the few of Shoma, as long as the people are still saying, "Amin," and she'll, definitely, you could catch in, so that's an important thing to keep in mind of reference to if you're finishing off the same bracha with the chazin or your friend or something along those lines, with your friend, it would be hard to say, with your friend, it would be hard to say that the people in Shula are answering, "Amin," but at least with the chazin, we have that to rely on from a Shulamiz Alman, but he brings out even your friend that, "Takli dibu, Shoma, sashats, achas, achas, achas, achas, achas, achas, achas, achas," "Hishalai," so you could still have it, but at least we could rely on that, at least by the shots when the chazin is finishing the same bracha, as you, you could answer in conjunction with what we just mentioned, or the other thing is, when it comes to, it was just, I just stopped, actually, when it comes to your friend, actually, you know, in other words, if you finished the takli dibu before him, in other words, he finished those between two and three seconds after you, right, in other words, you finished that, let's say I finished the bracha vishthabach, I finished, and then takli dibuar, that amount of time passed, that's what I think what he's trying to say with my sir, that amount of time passed, right, the two to three seconds, the amount of time it takes you to say "Shoma lekhamrabi," and your friend, right, and your friend is finishing the bracha, so you'll say, "Wow, we just finished together." No, so the mishabur, la shum mishabur, but then takas at one time, but if it passed by the takli dibuar, it was, there was a differentiation between you finishing, and your friend finishing, you finished first, and you, a friend finishing of, of two to three seconds, takli dibuar, Shoma lekhamrabi, that was a differentiation, even though he finished so quickly, right after you, then he says, that's what he says, vimlaqah, shishim, who, esperchase, ova shir takli dibuar, visham, sashatsah, very la sayim, afilo, it's a bracha, even though it's the same bracha, he can answer a main, and, and the ripslamizamun said, "Definitely, if it's the shots, even at the same time, as long as it's cibuar, still saying a main makhara, that would still be, could still jump in that amount of time after, because the makhs are going to ripslamizam, the, the, the, even if you finish together, lekhamrabi, and it passed the two to three seconds, the shoma lekhamrabi, takli dibuar, lekhamrabi, alaykhamrabi, alaykhamrabi, that's still in the middle of saying, a main is a large amount of people, takli dibuar, also, thank you for listening us, laka, bracha, cultu.