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So go to prizebix.com, the Google Play Store, or the Apple App Store. Again, use the code FIVE5 to start playing. And now, today's episode. Welcome to 5 on the 4. Daily insider show on the Miami Heat and the NBA featuring Ethan Skolnick, Greg Silverlander, and Alex Toledo, plus others from the 5 Reason Sports Network. All right. Welcome back to 5 on the floor. Here's today's floor plan of Ethan Skolnick. You can follow me at Ethan, Jay Skolnick, and at 5 Reason Sports. We've got Greg Silverner. You can follow-- excuse me-- at Greg Silverner. We weren't exactly sure what we were going to podcast about today. But Anthony Chang, our friend over at the Miami Herald, has given us the topic. So credit to Anthony for digging into this and getting some answers, where it's been hard to get answers on this over the past couple of weeks, I can tell you, because we've both been trying. We knew that things were not going well with Tyler Hero. That was blatantly obvious. Whenever the heat go dark on these situations, that's a good indicator. I go back to Dion Waiters, Justice Winslow, many of these other cases. They just don't like to talk about about injuries. Use that Mike Miller. Tell me in locker room that he was going between games to fly for an epidural during the playoffs. And the heat was saying there was nothing wrong with him. So I also remember the 2010 locker room in Boston, after the heat got eliminated, Wayne and that group got eliminated by the Celtics. And a heat official come up and saying, "Oh, Quentin Richardson's having surgery on his thumb tomorrow." We never knew that Quentin Richardson had a thumb injury. So again, when it comes to injuries, there's a lot of speculation, and we end up having to fill in the gaps. So Anthony did fill in some of the gaps here. And Greg, honestly, the news isn't good. I mean, and there's really no way around this because we've done so many of these Tyler Hero podcasts this year. And I feel like all I've done all year is defend him. And it's not to say he's done anything wrong. He has it. But I've been defending against this narrative of injury prone, right? Like, you know, we say guys had freak injuries, right? Diving for a loose ball, he gets hurt, steps on a foot, he gets hurt. But at a certain point, availability is an ability. And we are at that stage. And so Greg, maybe you can go through some of this that Anthony got into, and then we'll get into the repercussions. But to me, a bridge has been crossed here. And we're going to talk about where they go from here. Yes, shout out to Anthony. It was great reporting by the Herald here. Basically, the key points are his return is not imminent. He's missed the last 10 games. And he received the this is where it gets interesting. Platelet-rich plasma injection on Friday to treat his injured right foot and will be reevaluated in one to two weeks. And this is a situation where everybody wondered, because remember he left that game with the knee. And we all were like, okay, there's a hyper extension of the knee or something like that. It appears as if that was initially the injury here. And what got weird was over all star breaks, something happened. And I remember Tyler tweeted that can be a tongue twister. An emoji that, I don't know if it was a face palm emoji. So it's escaping me at the moment now what exactly it was. But I start to connect the dots here and I see what happened. It's essentially he had a knee injury that he's already healed from. And in the midst of that, this foot thing happened. And it happened again. I guess this is a reoccurring thing. And so that's where it starts to get a little bit, for me, concerning because a foot is a bad place to have an injury. And if this is something that has came up again, because this is many times now we've talked about a foot in some capacity, that starts to get a little tricky and scary, I think. And that's kind of what I've been talking about when it comes to injury prone. Because when you have one off injuries, it is what it is. I mean, and then it becomes, okay, when does he come back? And there are a couple of things that have played into this. One is, if this is a recurring injury, that's a little more frustrating, because then obviously, he may have issues with this in the future again. I mean, this is, look, basketball is an impact sport. People don't talk about it like a contact sport, but it's an impact sport. Your foot is hitting the floor, okay? Every time that you're on the court. And so this is something that he's got to deal with. And look, he's not the first to ever deal with foot injuries. Tim Hardaway dealt with foot injuries a lot towards the end of his career. Obviously, Dwayne and Tim dealt with knee injuries. Jimmy has a multitude of things that have happened over the years. But Tyler's 24 years old, right? He's played 36 games. At this stage, he's probably not getting to 40 this year. I mean, it just doesn't look like it. You're talking about a re-evaluation according to Anthony in one to two weeks, right? Okay, so that's a re-evaluation. That's not, he's back on the floor, all right? It's, you know, and again, once he is cleared, then where is his conditioning going to be? Because unlike the hand injury that he suffered, he can't, you can't condition the same way when you have a lower extremity injury, right? So, because he's still in pain, we should note that again. He's still in pain. Still in pain. And so, and then it gets into the whole idea of pain, Tyler, the more cryptic stuff, which is pain tolerance and willing to list to return when he's not 100 percent. And all of that. And, you know, so part of it is the injuries continue to occur. And then it seems to be that it takes longer for him to get back from some of these than some other guys. I mean, BAM has things and we're always like, is he hurt? We don't know, but he's playing through it. With Tyler, they tend to be things that keep him out for a longer period of time. Again, I don't like to get into speculating on how hurt a guy is or is it. This is a bottom line thing at this point, okay? The bottom line is the end of the season is approaching, okay? And this was a huge season for Tyler just like last year was a huge post season for Tyler. And now we can say, okay, as long as he's ready for the playoffs and he performs at a high level, then this stuff will get forgotten. And then perhaps in a certain sense, it will. But I think certain things of certain ships have sailed here. I don't think Tyler here was a starter for this team right now. I just, right? And you and I both agree and we've both said over and over, when he returns, he should start. But that was two weeks ago, three weeks ago, okay? That was, that's not now or two weeks from now. And I just, there's too many factors at play here. When you're talking about a guy in A, Duncan, who has performed well, but has performed better as a starter, I don't think that you can adjust the lineup again, okay? And then risk losing Duncan and Duncan's rhythm and Duncan's confidence. To me, Duncan Robinson is a starting two guard into the foreseeable future. Now, could a change be made in the postseason? If they're struggling, they need a jolt or something along those lines. Is this the card that Smolscher holds in his back pocket? Okay, but right. You cannot count on Tyler to start the rest of the year. And I don't think you can have the indecision when they've already had this rotation at the four this year. And then now they've got a new point guard other than they had last year. You can't, and we obviously know Jimmy's effort wanes from night to night, right? Like you cannot have a situation where you don't know that Duncan's a starter. Duncan's a starter, like that's it. He's earned the starting spot this year. He's been the most available player on the team. He's played 60 games. He leads them in games played this year. He's one of only three guys who's got a chance to play 70, which is pathetic, to be honest. When you look back, we've talked about the big three era. They all played 70, except Dwayne. Dwayne was right under 70 and everybody was complaining about it. Now nobody plays 70, okay, or a couple guys plays. Basically, Duncan, Hawkes, and Bam, that's basically it, okay? So I just, to me, that's number one. Duncan's your starter, the rest of the year. This isn't about ego at this point. This is just about practicality, right? I mean, you can't, you can't hold the place for Tyler anymore. No, and that's like a big step because I think a lot of people thought that there was question marks. I maintain that I thought that Duncan should start, but I thought that Tyler would ultimately still end up getting reinserted back into the starting lineup. After this reporting by Anthony and getting the clarification on precisely what's taking place with him and the fact that it's afoot, the fact that it's pain, the fact that it's still pain to the point of then needing injections where you'll be followed up on two weeks from now. As we record this on March 16th, no, there's no, there's no going back. You've got your starting five. I also think this is a situation where, to your point about a team coming together right before the postseason, Nico is your starting four, too. Like that's done as well to me. I don't think you, you-- Yeah, just to make one point, he's out against Detroit on Sunday. He tweaked his hamstring. We're wondering why he didn't come back in the game, and that was why. So it's temporarily-- It could be Kay. I'm guessing, well, I think it might actually be Haywood on Sunday. Oh, good point, good point, good point. And then Caleb and Hawke is still coming off the bench. But yes, I mean, I think that you're looking at Yoavitch likely being the start of going forward. And look, they need to get some rhythm with that lineup because that lineup overall has not had great numbers. We're talking about the Rosier, Robinson, Butler, Yoavitch, BAM lineup. So if they're going to roll with it, they need to roll with it and see if it works. And then Caleb and Hawke is, I guess, essentially become wild cards in the front court if you want to throw them in there at some point. And Tyler comes back off the bench. And I'll just put it this way. Would you be surprised if in two, three weeks we're getting a release from the Heat saying that Tyler here is being shut down for the rest of the season? No. Would you be surprised? Not at all. I don't think the Heat are. And frankly, I felt like this during our post-game show last night. I think I may have even said it. I have to go back and listen again now. I don't think the Heat are counting on Tyler here at all for the rest of the season. I think anything he provides now from this point forward is incremental to the total. I think that might have been what I said last night. And I'll say it again. I think it was. And so that's where that's a tough spot to be in with Tyler here now. The fact that I believe we both said that last year, Greg. I think we both said the exact same thing last year towards the end. That at a certain point, you just got to roll without him, right? It doesn't mean you don't value him. This is the problem with this whole conversation and why it's kind of so toxic. Because there are people that are so polarized on both sides of it. You can't get into the practicality of it without people thinking that you're disparaging someone or sunshine pumping them one way or the other. Like it's just you can't. It's just the two of thing, okay? It's the same thing. This is not an indictment of Tyler. Like as a foot injury, look, I mean, people get hurt. It happens, okay? It doesn't mean he's a bad person. It doesn't mean he's not trying. It doesn't mean he's too focused on Instagram. I'm like, I'm seeing all this silly stuff on social media. It's not that. It just comes down to this. You're in the business of trying to win championships, okay? You have a certain salary cap and luxury tax that you're allotting to your players, to try to win a championship. Other teams are competing against you with the same basic parameters, maybe a little bit more on the luxury tax, maybe a little bit less, but the same basic parameters. If you have $28 to $30 million of your cap and a skilled player who has some talents that others in the roster don't have, and that player is not available to you on a consistent basis, the facts of that are, A, you've got to move on with what you've got now, and B, you've got to look at moving on with something else in the future. It's just that's, I mean, because I'm looking at the numbers now, look, Zion, okay? Last three seasons, he's played 165 games. Tyler's played 169. Only 24 more games in Zion over the last three seasons, and Zion has 16 left that I assume he's going to play the majority of them, because the pelicans are in the middle of that race, right? Again, knock on something that Zion doesn't get hurt. What is the narrative on Zion? He's never on the floor, right? Like, so that's where we're at, and I know this sounds like a flip for me, because again, I've been the one saying, don't blame Tyler for this. I don't blame him, that's not it. It's not, I'm not saying anything negative about him, but you're right, the team has to move on, like he is not part of it. They just do, it's like, you can't, I mean, he's going to end up playing less than half the season. Yeah. So anyway, what we'll get into a little bit more of the long-term thing on the other side of this, we do want to mention a great sponsor with the Five Reasons Sports Network, our friends over at Water, Clean Up of Florida. We'll tell you about them all the time, base the book or its own Michael Robert and his team. If you got any kind of leaks in your place, get it taken care of right away. Don't wait, okay? Contact them at WCU, that's WCUFL.com, and that's WCUFL.com, your one-stop water and mold cleanup shop. Again, get the leaks fixed after the fact, they can help you take care of it with the insurance company before the fact, they can make sure you don't get to that point, okay? 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And he's finished okay for the Heat as well, and I also think that there's other offensive points to his game that I didn't think were as good as they are, like his passing ability. Sometimes he's a bit too unselfish, that needs to go away. It's time for Terry Rosiere to just engage in that way, play loose, don't think about it and go. I wouldn't like make me upset if he all of a sudden was leading the team in field goal attempts a game here or there, like let's go. And to that point, I also think that it'll be interesting to see now everybody's talked about why Patty Mills was brought in alongside Delon, right? I think that now we get an idea of why, because that there was two guards that they were not going to count on for the rest of the year, Jay Rich and Tyler. So that makes sense there. And I just wonder, does Delon, when does he get a look? Does he stick with Patty Mills? Does it matter once we get to the playoffs? Maybe not, but for the balance of the regular season, I think it does. And so it'll be interesting to see if Delon gets another opportunity here with Patty being a bit uneven recently after the fast start. Well, and Alex made the point that he thought he was leading more into Patty than Delon because they were missing Tyler's shooting. So to go to Patty, by the way, we'll have Patty on the podcast early next week, likely on Tuesday. So we'll get to talk to him directly. Of course, we've already had Delon on the pod. Look, I think higher volume for Rosie or makes sense. The other thing is he doesn't turn the ball over and he gets to the line. And so that is actually something that Tyler was not doing. So that should help them. I mean, Terry's already had three games and more than 10 free throw attempts since he's joined Miami. And it's time that Jimmy's having trouble getting to the line and Bama's struggling from the line. That's actually a good thing that the ball will be on Terry's hands a little bit more. All right, before we close here, let's say Tyler's back a week before the end of the regular season ends. Okay, gets a couple games in. You know, again, they may be fighting for the 60s at that point. Like they may be fighting to stay out of the play and so it's good. This is why I'm saying like I just it's hard to find the insertion point for Tyler like where he can go in and just have any like this weekend in Detroit, like this is perfect. Okay, this would have been great for him to get his win back. Okay, run around a little bit. Okay, get some shots up. Not gonna be like that at the end of the year. They're not playing great teams, but the games are all meaningful towards the end of the year. Not gonna stick him in at a play and okay, but let's say that he gets minutes off the bench. I mean, can they can they bring? I mean, it's a lot of talent. They'd be bringing off the bench. If you're talking about love Caleb Hakez and hero, right? Like that's, I mean, before we get to Mills or Dolan or Highsmith or anybody else, but if you're keeping the same starting lineup, does that even work? Is that too much? I mean, I mean, I think to your point, Yovitch probably doesn't get a ton of minutes, even though he starts in that scenario with those guys coming off the bench. And that's essentially your rotation is what you're talking about. Because I do think for the heat to ultimately challenge Boston, if that's really what the goal still is, is to take a damn shot at the top at the top seed and take a damn shot at whoever you get in the first round. But I think that they really have bigger aspirations in that you're going to need Tyler. So I do think that like if he is back before the regular season ends, even though it's not necessarily it's well, I'm not going to say necessary. It's not ideal to have to insert him back into this mix. I think ultimately to get where you want to go, you're going to need him. So you do it and you throw caution to the wind, you find a way, but it's off the bench. You cannot clarify that enough. And then you just try to see if he is sharp enough and coherent enough in the offensive schemes where everybody's still looking like they're playing together that it works. And it's a tough thing to balance, but that's why you pay air exposure, which you pay them because I don't see them being able to reach the mountains top without Tyler playing and them getting something from that percent of his salary cap. Like let's just be honest. So I think you got to put him back in the mix, even though it complicates the hell out of everything. So I know people are going to want us to do the hour long episode about what this means for Tyler here is future with the organization, but we're going to save that. I mean, obviously it's to be a discussion point for us on all of the floor and other places, but I really think we need to see when he comes back and what he looks like and what he contributes and give him the full opportunity to make a difference for this team in a positive way. And the thing I want to close with is he wants to play. That's the narrative that bothers me. Okay, like this is not he's not looking to collect a check. He's not like the kid loves playing basketball. Like this is he's 24 years old, but sometimes it's just like fit timing, all that kind of stuff. It doesn't work out. And I wanted it to work out for him this year, but this is a this is a tough spot, not his fault, but the we're going to say it's a business. And like I said, availability is an ability. You can't make the team from the tub, right? Like that's what they say. They need to move forward. Duncan Robinson is your two guard the rest of the year. Tyler comes back. 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