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This is why we tell you to join us during the games. I vacated the stream briefly because I was banished, because I said on there that we could start the post game show when the heat were up 17. I was called down immediately on that, and of course, the Pistons came back to tie. The Heat could play a clutch game with the local JCC, seriously. Like, they let everybody back into these games, but the story of the night, and it's the play of the night. You want to just get to it early? Let's just do it. Let's go to the play of the night. Let's, Lynette was on there the stream with us. Go ahead. And now it's time for the Insurance BileNet Play of the Night, sponsored by InsuranceBileNet.com, an A-aggressive Insurance Agency. You can reach out to our friend Lynette at 954-581-8800. That's 954-581-8800, or insurancebileNet.com. That's insurancebileNet.com. With two N's and two T's, your best play for auto insurance, homeowners insurance, condo insurance, life insurance, or retirement program. Reach out to Lynette@insurancebileNet.com. Alright, so let's set the scene here a little bit. The heat bungled the last few minutes. I don't know what Terry Rosier was doing on some of those possessions. He needs to have better awareness of time and claw, all that stuff. And then Detroit had a chance to win the game. And they didn't. Miami gets a rebound. Ball's in Rosier's hands. Spill, how did time out to use, I believe? He didn't use it. He doesn't usually use it in those situations. The ball finds BAM from, what was it? 32 feet, I think, something along those lines. This was not your standard variation 3. BAM out of bio, waited until the very last play of the game to extend his three points streak to three. The three points streak is now at three and he got swarmed and the heat survived 104 to 101. Spill, she said he likes those above the break threes. That's where he shot it from. Obviously, BAM has a trained eye from that. He finishes on the game with 20 points, 16 rebounds, but let's just be flat out on this. They should lose this game. They should not. Brady, I'll go to you first on it. I know you don't have Jimmy. I get it. I understand your short-handed. You're playing a Detroit team. They were honoring all their old players today. But they're playing the corpse of Evan Fornier against you. This is not a game that you could lose when you're up 17. And honestly, he bailed them out. There's another guy who bailed them out throughout the game. But in the last three seconds, BAM saved them from what would have been an embarrassing defeat, which would have pushed them another game behind Philadelphia and Cleveland, two teams that they see in the rest of this road trip. Yeah, I don't care that Jimmy wasn't playing like this was a game you could not lose, especially considering the fact that they just lost to Washington. You could not have a loss to Washington and the loss to Detroit within a week when you're trying to make a push get out of the plane. So yeah, we'll talk about dunking the other guy in a few that kind of really saved them. But I mean, this has basically been BAM prepping for this moment. Like the last few games, the fact that he keeps taking this exact shot over and over again. And we've had the BAM discussion from three in the past. And it's like corner threes were never going to move the needle. They just weren't. It's the closest three, but it's just not equipped for like a big man just to stand around and take those shots consistently. If you want to move the needle, you take that above the break three, where you're able to kind of stretch the defense, pull a big man away from the rim, play a little pick and pop potentially in the near future. Like all of that stuff. And the fact that he's getting more and more comfortable with it. It's important. It's a good thing to see. So I mean, this is a perfect ending for a game like this because it was ugly. And the fact that now that the discussion is shifted away from what it was going to be. Like if that went into OT and they scraped out a win, we were not going to be talking about that. But if they scraped out a loss, Brady, like they were very well good at a loss. They absolutely could have. I mean, they were playing their best five down the stretch. The only five guys they could trust. I love that comment from Mike T, by the way, that we just threw up there. We appreciate the comments that come in here on the live streams before they go to podcast feed. Because I was at all three of those games and it felt very much like that. Bosch versus the Spurs, Bosch versus the Blazers, Bosch versus Atlanta. If you don't remember the circumstances of all those games, the Spurs one was special because of who they were playing at the time. And obviously they had a rivalry with them. The Blazers one was a game where, if you remember, LeBron came off the bench to tackle, to tackle Bosch after that. And that was just, I mean, that was a good atmosphere in Portland and Bosch making that shot was huge as he was kind of proving himself as a clutch player on that team. And the one in Atlanta always jumps out to me because that was the, I believe a triple overtime game where they didn't have LeBron or Dwayne. And that was the game. The Terrell Harris had 13 rebounds and Mario Chalmers was helping Bosch carry it to the end. But Bosch made three of those from about the same place that Bam did tonight. Bams was a little bit further out. But we make that comparison of Bam to Bosch so much in terms of the way that the fans view them, kind of proving themselves here and doing it when the other stars are out. And I actually thought Alex Bam had a pretty pedestrian game until that. I mean, he had the one possession. We had like four rebounds on the same possession, which padded the numbers a little bit. I mean, but going into that, he had 17 and 16, which again, you typically would take it. But he's clearly got to be the best player on the floor against that team. And he wasn't for most of the night, but then to make that shot, you're right. The narratives all blow out the window at this point because he made the clutch shot. For sure. But I also think like I get that line of thinking because of course, right? Like he's your second best player and you expect him to step up with a lot more shots. And he didn't really do that. Like he didn't take a lot more shots, but he did finish nine of 13. He gave you 17 rebounds. He gave you a three assists. You know, the part that you do, you know, takes, you know, some Umbridge with is the three turnovers, along with the three assists. So that's what you can pick on. And yeah, like you want him to be more aggressive. I get that line of thinking, but at the same time, like you had Terry doing his thing for most of this game. You had Duncan, who I'm sure we're going to talk about soon. So I'll hold off on him. But he was fantastic. And then Jaime got going later on in this game, finished with 15. Like I think there was enough going on right around them. And so I think BAM just kind of played a really efficient game. Didn't try to do too much. And other than the turnovers, I really think he had a he had a nice game and holy crap. And like you said before, this is why we tell you guys to watch on playback. Of course, I'm going to say here playback.tv/5RSN or download the app. You can watch the game with us. That was a great moment, man. I'm glad I was on for that. I just lost my mind because when they first got the rebound, somebody I think it was Ray Ray or Matt said call the timeout. And I said, screw that. Don't call the timeout. Just go for the win. And for BAM, of all people to hit, not just the three, but a deep three like that. To extend the streak, which I completely forgot about until you mentioned it just now. You've been like, what a moment. I was not expecting that whatsoever. And just so much better than going to overtime. Yeah, thank you, BAM. Talk to you, BAM. Exactly. We don't need overtime on a Sunday afternoon to Detroit where the team is trying to get to Philadelphia for a game tomorrow night. Heat three or five mentions BAM had another game winner gets the Nets in Miami two years ago. He did. But if you remember that, that was like, that play was set up. That was, he was kind of on the elbow. Elbow towards the post and it was a turnaround jumper. And we made a big deal of it at the time. And Jimmy was out at that point also. But this is different because to me, what I like about this is this is instinctual. Like this is spo base, spo never calls time out there, by the way. I mean, I had conversations with him about his philosophy there. He just doesn't believe in that to set up a play. And it's probably better that they didn't because I have a feeling that it would have been bungled if they had. With the way that some things were going late in that game. So to just kind of let it free flow. But we, you know, to have BAM and his first instinct is to understand the clock there. And to understand there were no other options. And sometimes we see BAM hesitate. And so that was, it's huge for him. Obviously it's huge for him and it's huge for the team. And it's big in terms of them believing in him on the nights that Jimmy is out. We've just obviously just gotten the news about Tyler over the past 24 hours. And so they've gotten the news about Tyler and they kind of understand how they need to move on without him to a certain degree. And so for BAM to do that was, was enormous. And I, they flashed the standings before that. And again, if you're trying to get out of the plane, like you can't drop this game. Like you're, you're, you're chasing Indiana. You're chasing Orlando. The Knicks have gotten out of Nobi back. So you're not catching them at this point because I think they're 16 and two when OG plays this year. Cleveland is free falling and Mitchell is going to miss some time. He may even miss the game against the heat on Wednesday. He's not going to play on Monday, but you're still so far back of them. Like you can't lose ground against Indiana, Philadelphia and Orlando. You just can't. Like you've got to keep them in striking distance here. And now you get, you play, you know, Philly next obviously without MB Tobias Harris is not going to play Monday night either. So you don't, you couldn't go in there with a loss. So we don't know Jimmy status. So then we'll talk about it a little bit later in the show. We want to get to the gamer of the night. We will in a second, but I just want to, since I want to stay at the end of that game. My, my one issue at the end of that game because he's going to be in his hands more often, especially with Tyler out now. Brady, what was Terry Rosier doing in the last three minutes of that game? Because I don't know. It felt like he was playing like it was like the middle of the first quarter. Instead of running clock and making sure that good shots were taken. Yeah, I mean, first, like if we're going to hit the positive, I mean, credit to him for hitting Bam on that trailing three, like if he understood that, like, okay, suppose not calling a timeout. So I have to play faster and dark down the court and he got down there and drew in the defense a little bit. So it kind of opened up that Bam shot. But what I never said, like before that point, he was kind of playing at that like nonchalant mode that he plays in in the first three quarters where he kind of felt like he had the one where I think it was like 10 seconds on the shot clock. You had that leaning right wing three where you kind of just shot it up randomly and it was like, I don't know, they just felt like it was just kind of all over the place where it needs to be a little more into control. But this is a game where they're lacking players, they're lacking on ball players that it felt like they just need they wanted him to try to figure some things out. But every time that they went to the guy, you know, I'm not going to talk about a ton before we get to it, but Duncan, the offense looks so much cleaner and they got so much better looks that when it was bogging down to Terry and isolation, that will never be this team. There's a lot of teams this league that their closing offense is isolation basketball and kind of bogging it down and kind of working it in that way. No matter what, that's not Miami. That'll never be Miami. That's just not the way that they play. They're just not good at it. Like, even if shots fall at times when they do it, it's just not them. So, I mean, they were able to escape, but I agree with you. I don't think they want to play that style, but they're able to get away with it in a game against Detroit in a game where they're without so many guys. All right, Alex loaded up because we need to talk about the other guy. And now on five on the floor, it's time for the gamer of the night sponsored by Rock East Sports Center, the place to eat, drink, and play all day. Host your next birthday party with them located at 15305 South Dixie Highway in Palmetto Bay. They've got a 5500 square foot state of the art center equipped with all the high end power play all day passes available for just 25 bucks. But if you mentioned five reasons, it's just $20. So mention five reasons or five RSN, you get to play all day for $20. And now the gamer of the night. Guys, I don't know what we're watching. I'm kind of at that point. And this is what Duncan Robbins did today. By the way, in the state where he played college basketball, where he only got to play college basketball there after having to go to Williams College. Okay. This is how low down on the totem pole Williams College is a basketball school. I went to Johns Hopkins University. We used to play Williams College and my roommates were 6, 2, and 6, 3, and that was the center and the power forward. Duncan Robbins was playing division three basketball. He ends up in Michigan. He's an undrafted free agent. He makes himself into a shooter. Spose says in his first couple of years, this is the best shooter in the world right now we're all laughing at him. He has that ascent. He gets the contract. Every he fan wants him gone. Everyone. Attach picks. Get rid of this guy. He's not playable anymore. He can't defend. He can't pass. He can't do any of these things. And no, he was not the same player he is now. He had 34 and five. He made every clutch shot they needed up until Bam made his. He had his thousand three today, thousand fastest to 1000, not to 200, not to 300, not to 400. You talk about sustainability. A thousand threes. I talked to Duncan about three weeks. So he says, I'm not going to get to a thousand before Steph did or any of the rest of them did. He says just because of the volume that they're getting. He got their head about it, buddy healed. He got their head of Steph. A thousand threes. Okay. In a heat uniform. He's still just 29 years old. He doesn't turn 30 until next month. And when his contract comes up again, he's got the partial guarantee next year. Heat fans are going to be begging for the heat to extend him at a high number. I mean, if you want to talk about it all coming together in one day, the only shame today. It's great to ban me the shot. I kind of want to dunk it and make it like it. It was, it was the perfect day for Duncan to close it with that. And Lynette mentions on here in our chat. The four point play was the play of the game. The game was getting away. He makes that three. He gets fouled. They get the free throw afterwards. I mean, Alex, I don't even, I mean, forget the starting debate. To me, that's over on, you know, I mean, and we'll talk about hero a little bit later in the podcast because I know people are asking who haven't followed the news over the weekend. But you, Duncan, as they're starting to arrest the regular season, you let him get comfortable. You play through him. His confidence is soaring right now. I just, I, it was like a perfect day for him in that, in that building in that state. No, I mean, he's been fantastic, man. He's been one of their most reliable players when he started. And, you know, I just think it's, he's been fantastic, man. And every time you think you know what he can do, it's like, oh yeah, he's right back to just scorching you from three. Still gave you three field goals from, you know, inside the, the arc also gave you, I think, five assists, right? So like, the, the, all the skill development that we've known about and has been, you know, happening for the past couple of seasons. Has come to this point where like he can really give you a lot of things. And you can't just take away one thing from him. And that is the problem. Now it's made him so much more dynamic and it's really just been a godsend. For this anemic heat offense, especially without Tyler and Kevin Love right now who are doing, you know, who had a nice chunk of importance for their shooting and their offense. And Duncan has really stepped up, man. Like, I just think he's been pretty reliable and. Again, the skill development is just amazing. And we've talked about this on other pauses, the R keys had in his career. Very weird one, not even just, you know, not even getting into like, you know, going from a D three school to D one school and all of that. What's happened in his NBA career, the ups and downs has just been wild. And for him to come out on the other side like this has just been so impressive, man. I'm really happy for him. Yeah, that that four point play was huge. You know, the Duncan Bam two man game was again, heavy throughout this game. And it maybe is a little bit different at times because you had kind of Bam play making for him up top. And I'd like that they can still go to that. I'm a big fan of when they go to Bam up top as a playmaker. And I think that's another way that you can utilize their two man game. It doesn't always have to be the same spots that you can kind of go inverse with it. You can do it from a lot of different areas on the floor. It's probably easily their most dynamic action, right, because you can get to it in so many different ways. And I think Duncan has just become such a staple in their offense. And I'm happy that he's producing at this rate, man. And, you know, happy birthday, Duncan Robinson and actual happy birthday to Terry Rosier, whose birthday is today. By the way, Terry Rosier just again, because we were, I was critical of him for the last few minutes, but Brady made the point and then we'll cycle back to Duncan here. He had 17.6 rebounds, nine assists, no turnovers again. It looked like he was trying to commit one at the end of the game, but he didn't. The assistant turnover ratio for Terry is outrageous. I talked to him before the game the other day about it. Maybe we'll play some of that clip on the podcast because I don't think we've actually run any of that. I talked to Terry about that and also about the lobs that he's throwing and Van Lee mentions this here on the chat about feeding BAM and him wanting to get BAM involved with some of those lobs, but, you know, I talked about sort of the making the decisions about, you know, when to be more aggressive and risk a turnover so probably would be worthwhile for us to put that on the podcast this week, but even eight of 20 from the field. The other stuff was efficient. But, you know, we talk about Duncan and the shooting and all that and the clutch shooting and he's kind of impervious to pressure at this point in certain cases. He missed a couple threes about a week ago and everybody was saying this is why he shouldn't close games. But if you look at the overall numbers of him in the fourth quarter this year, he's their best fourth quarter shooter. He's a best fourth quarter shooter. He's also been, and we talked about this on playback. He's been their most reliable player this year. Like somebody was saying he's been their best. I'm not ready to say Jimmy's hasn't been their best player. But Duncan's been their most reliable player. Duncan has played more games already than Jimmy is going to play this season. He's played more games already than Tyler is going to play this season. He's been available for 61 games. Availability is an ability. Like, you know, he's out there every night and, you know, you know, kind of what you're going to get from him, but Brady, I want to focus on one other play. And there was the, the, the past he made where he kind of got trapped by the baseline. And he made that backhanded pass to Hakaz as a cutter. Him again, figuring out solutions when he's not in the best position to me and his biggest growth this year. And the play before was the play where he was in that deep corner and just saved them with that crazy shot over the top and it feels like he's just their bailout option all the time. Then the following player you said he's in the same spot on the floor except this time he drives based on trying to bail them out once again. It seems like he's done for and trapped and all of a sudden credits behind me because he had a really good cut there to kind of save him. But don't get throwing a left handed bounce pass in stride around a big man is like, it's just become normal for him. And not only because it being about the consistency. It's just it feels like he's he was once was a scripted player and now it's gone to the point where he's just reading react. He's just going to react to everything that you throw at him coverage is if you know the last game he was kind of getting it in the inside the arc and he was making past the band he had a little bit couple of shots in the lane. The counter from the Pistons is okay we're going to throw more size of him we're going to throw Isaiah Stewart and dirt and on that action and basically flatten you out and try to just take it away and don't get pretty much says okay I'm going to play more high pick and roll. I'm going to play farther out. I'm going to just shoot over the top of you consistently. And it got to a point where it was like okay they were out of counters. We don't really have anything else for him because it feels like everything we throw at him he's just able to kind of just find something else to do. It was the play at the last play the second quarter where it was teary rosier at the ball there was like they were holding for one shot Duncan screens and slips and two of them sprinted Duncan like they both just full out running to me like taps the ball back to Terry ends up in a delon floater. It just shows the attention he's seeing and the things that he's creating that it was like. I feel like everybody was looking around in that fourth quarter when things were going south and it's like okay when snuck and checking in when he's again to go to the scores table because everything looks better when he's on the floor offensively and it feels like they don't really have a lot of time when he's not out there in a game like this or without Jimmy so he just continues to be great like he's just been shooting the ball at a really high level. The stuff he's doing inside the arc that the there was that we were watching the playback he was in the third quarter when he had like a shot off the bat off bank off glass where you just randomly just does shots. It's like okay that's just normal nowadays so. I'm also talking about it Ethan you were making the point that it almost feels like he's getting more respect from officials where he's not getting as many foul calls I think it is a good point because defensively I feel like he's been good like he's he's not a guy where we're having the conversation after games even after losses where we're saying he's getting picked on I we have not had that comment once like and he's closed a lot of these games that they're not really picking on. He's using his sizes advantage he's not using his hands like he used to he's moving his feet and he's been defending at a pretty decent level he's really good in that zone so credit to him but having a game where he's able to put kind of a 30 piece on the board I feel like it is good for his confidence and even if it's you know against a Detroit team. Well I mentioned this on playback and it may be I don't know if you were on there maybe you were an Alex wasn't or maybe you both were I can't remember. And this is purely I test speculation but I feel like the officials are giving him more benefit of the doubt on defense because they see him as a basketball player now. Officials have biases they have biases they have biases to the home team they have biases to stars and they have biases against I mean let's just be honest like. They're not going to give them the benefit of the doubt in a lot of those situations because and Duncan has been a one I should say against specialists okay. And he's been a specialist throughout his career he's not a specialist anymore and I feel like them viewing him as a more well rounded offensive basketball player is helping them him on the defensive and it's like that thing we always talk about with BAM okay where BAM's case for defensive player of the year will be helped by him being better offensively it's stupid okay it shouldn't be like that. But the voters have certain perceptions and biases that play into that. And I just think that there I think that Duncan has become like we don't view him as he's not Davis Bertons anymore. You know I mean like he's not that kind of player like he's he's a legitimate starting to guard in this league. And we'll get to the injury report in a second where we'll get more into it but Alex I want to go to this because this is going to be the other topic. That's discussed a lot today we don't have another podcast before the game on Monday night. Patty Mills played 10 minutes tonight. Was 0 4 from the floor. All three's a minus 13. I know we don't do the individual but the only reason I'm mentioning is because there was a lot of talk about how their numbers were very good with Patty on the floor. For whatever it was worth in those three games like they were a big plus. Delon Wright tonight after I think sitting the last five I played the Sacramento game and not after that. 21 points. Excuse me 21 minutes three of seven from the floor. Three rebounds two steals a minus two in six minutes. I thought the lawns minutes were good. And he got a lot of them. So like is there a path now. To him playing because they didn't seem to be until today when Jimmy was out. I think there is a path now as far as whether we go down that path or not. I'm not sure. Just because Phil is sometimes hard to predict. Like every time you think you know you see where he's going you might go a different way right. It's kind of what happened with Patty in the first place. I think we all would have thought Delon would be first in line to play there and then of course you know there's strenuating circumstances with Tyler being out. And I think Spaux was just kind of star for shooting there and love. You know like I said factors into that factors into that as well not being able to have a spacing big out there other than Bam now that he's a he's a stretch big. No but in our reality like I think you know that's pretty much the only reason Patty was playing not to disrespect him in any way like to be honest he still zips around the court. Pretty well and you can see that when he's out there like you can run him. And some of those sets you do for Duncan not to the same you know degree not to but the same level of emphasis but you can do that the problem is when the threes are not falling it's like he's not giving you too much else out there like he's decent and moving the ball out of those out of those sets but you need the shooting to be there because it's not like Duncan where he's also six eight with a seven foot wingspan and who is now giving you. You know finishing at the basket as well as play making like that's not really the case with Patty he's really small and it's very noticeable in person too. Just from watching the games he's he's somebody who could easily be picked at I think more than anybody else just because of his size and. You know even though he's a little bit older like I think he moves decently well for like what is he 34 year old like he still zips around that court but yeah the shooting I don't think has been consistent enough for him. I still think he can really shoot that ball but I am in my opinion I think the lawn should be playing over him and I think you can make the case over Heywood but it's a little bit tough there because I think Heywood is kind of the tiebreaker with them too is the size where they just like they're already kind of a small team as it is so it just goes with the guy with a little bit more length and strength but the lawn gives you more on offense than Heywood does so I think there's a path to him playing you just got to play him over one of those two guys currently. And also just there's a lot of weird stuff going on right now like that second quarter with those lineups where they had you know Patty the lawn and Thomas and just in general like there's been a lot of patty and Thomas together like it's hard to get the representative samples of what separate to the he won't he's he's got like Brian and and Mills attached to that we talk it's it's just so funny because we always talk about they don't have enough at this position or at the point guard spot. He ends up playing them together he used to do this so yeah he would do this with Drew Smith and Kyle earlier this year like and he just like why isn't he at least separating these guys. A little bit I will get the injury report a second but Brady I thought the lawns game was solid and I he rushed a couple of layups I thought or at least one of them. I'm not sure he did but it does feel like there's there's more there to tap into than there is with Patty. I mean we're having Patty on the podcast on Tuesday so we're being very polite here. And I see I see I see the value in in in Patty as a shooter I do. And I see the value in having his sort of his court intelligence out there also. But he's not going to be a decision maker down the stretch of games anyway. But in this case if I'm going to choose a specialist I would choose the defender. It's funny because in the past like that when they've made these decisions De Laan is always the heat choice. Like he's the build that they usually lean to I feel like when we used to talk about like even if it was boy or Drew Smith like in this instance boy is like the Patty Mills and Drew Smith is like the low key. Like that does less like flashy stuff but does more of the the underground defensively stuff so it's like now this is like a situation where it's like these players are much more advanced than the than the examples I just gave but like De Laan. I thought came out of nowhere again like after sitting all these games and defended really well like guarding a guy that is much bigger in Kate Cunningham but like De Laan has sized to him and he's able to defend above his position he's able to do all that stuff where there's like a couple bursts of the basket too you mentioned some of the finishes where he rushed but like he still has moments where he's able to get to the basket like not to discredit Patty because he's had games where he shot well but like Patty around the rim does like this weird like flip animation where he doesn't underhand layup and it's like it's a different thing. Yeah he does like a scoop a quick scoop and De Laan's more of like he's able to kind of be more physical it feels like around the rim and do a lot of that type of stuff but he's just solid like he's just you know what you're getting from De Laan when you put him out there and it's usually the guy that they lean to and I feel like he's he's disrupt he's just always disrupting defensively they were kind of moving him around in the zone like usually he's up top but they had him kind of on the bottom of that zone I think the adjustment Ethan is maybe not playing him with Haywood like it kind of probably has to be one of the other like play it's fun to watch defensively when they're both out there but you cannot sustain that offensively with those two out there because you're kind of have two guys off the ball that you you could just help off of play play play him with Caleb where you get some of the defense but you also get some pop offensively. Or when you over just give us back exactly I'm just the Haywood thing to me I'm less in on it than I was earlier in the season I just I don't he's not making that three consistently enough at this point I would rather see what De Laan has at this stage and kind of for I understood Haywood starting today because obviously Naviovich and he wants to keep Caleb off the bench so he had that he had somebody who could come off the bench with some offense but he would bring already you do and he can plug him in and I think he'll be fine but I think what's been positive about De Laan is that he was put out there in two situations and kind of asked to sink or swim right like the Sacramento game. No Jimmy I mean I was a tough kid he played really well I thought that game and then you sit him for a week and a half and you're playing a guy you just brought in off the street who's like 35 years old over him and obviously if he was sulking it didn't show today because he I you know I'm ready to mention he just will not be screened like which I which I like because this team allows itself to get screens too often and he just he fights through it all right let's get let's get to the injury port now because I know there's a lot of news everybody wants and now it's time for the official five on the floor injury report sponsored by our friend Eric Rubenstein the personal injury attorney born and raised in Lauderdale Florida lives in Miami went to St Thomas he's a South Florida guy and a huge Miami heat fan but the important thing is he can help you get your money that you deserve when something happens to you so reach out to our guy Eric Rubenstein again Eric Rubenstein dot com or ask about me I got you on instagram and now the injury report all right this is a long one let's start here for those of you have not been paying a lot of attention this weekend recommend that you listen to the podcast that Greg and I did on Tyler Hero yesterday it's going to be up on the YouTube channel this evening as well but it's already up on the podcast feeds essentially Anthony Chang did the did the hard part here he did the good reporting from the Herald where you know Tyler getting the plasma getting the injections essentially to speed recovery this foot injury that apparently was a rookie injury that I don't really remember we thought that the knee was what was bothering him until about a couple weeks ago it turns out it's been the foot all long here and he is Eric's post was asked again today about it obviously he's going to continue to get asked and he said there was no timetable and they're hoping to have him before the end of the regular season so Tyler's played 36 games this season doesn't look like he's going to get to 40 Greg and I made the point I think both of us have been waiting and I think you guys had as well for him to come back and put him back in the starting lineup so if you guys are where we're at but Greg and I are both of the mind now that Duncan Robinson is your starter for the balance of the regular season and if Tyler comes back then he gets a roll off the bench and tries to plug in that way not to say that he'll never be a starter for this team at this point in the playoffs if they obviously need more offensive juice or something changes there but I just you can't count on him to come back at this stage and Duncan's rolling too good and we said that before Duncan had 30 today so to me at this stage this is what was a debate the whole season that I was fighting I'm no longer fighting it Duncan Robinson's you're starting to before we move on to the love and butler and Yovitch injuries do you guys have any thoughts on this but I think I'll say real quickly that I kind of said before like I've always thought Tyler would kind of re-enter the starting lineup after all of this but I think it does hit a certain point where if you're up against playoff time where it's kind of at that final hour and we're still looking around wondering if he's going to return or even if he returns around that time it's tough to just throw him in the mix and just say go into the playoffs and figure it out I think that they just figured everything out because not everything has looked great consistently with this with this current group but there has to be some form of consistency and rhythm and it's not like this is the same team as last year you have a new guy in the mix you have Nicole Yovitch that's actually playing this time around this isn't one of those things where you can kind of throw in a guy throw in a guy and it's like okay just do what you did before just figure it out like it does feel like they kind of are hitting that time of the year and being the fact that don't get as the guy that's really the one that's popping makes it even more difficult so I'm kind of there with you it feels like it depends on the situation and each of you hit on the part that's going to be the one that's going to take a look at this and it's going to be the one that's going to be the one that's going to take a look at this is going to be the one that's going to be the one that's going to be the one that's going to be the one that's going to be the one that's going to be the one that's going to take a look at this and it's not the worst thing to have an eight man rotation in one of three guys off the bench being Tyler Europe. Well the three guys off the bench could be if Tyler gets back in the mix I mean you could have a four man bench and we'll talk about one of these guys in a second of love. Hawkez Martin and hero I mean there are not a lot of teams in the league that could compete with that bench Alex I'll say this let's say it's not going to happen because he's not going to be evaluated for a week to two weeks let's say Tyler was back in a week. Let's say it was a week from now. Would you put it back in the starting lineup. I don't know I think I think if you're asking me I would probably just bring them off the bench. Like I think I wouldn't be surprised completely it's supposed just throw them back in if there's if there was a decent amount of time left in the regular season. If it's just like a couple of games I just don't think it's enough like I would you know 10 15 games right like a ramp up period I think that would make more sense but at the same time I already felt like. I was trying to get my personal biases out there I felt like it wasn't to be tough to play through to to work through what a rosier hero back court would look like in a lot of playoff matches where I feel like it would just get endlessly picked on and I know they would still try to do it right with with Duncan in there I just think you know Duncan just has more sizes point a rosier hero back court is really small. So it was always like I could see the offensive upside like them playing off of each other I don't hate that. But the defensive stuff and I feel like it's that's why it's kind of a convenient time almost for Spaux to just be like well look you've been out so far we don't want to like rush this thing was just like ramp you back up off the bench you're still gonna get plenty of shots you're still gonna get plenty of time and it like doesn't hurt anybody's feelings right you know what I mean like it's it feels like this is it's almost worked out in a way where it spoke and just kind of go to that if he really wants to but if you know you told me Tyler comes back towards the end of the season when he started again that wouldn't that wouldn't shock me in the least like we've seen that Spaux is more than willing to start them together. But if you're asking me what I would do it's I would just keep Duncan in there right now like he's just so good as a starter and I've always felt like you can maybe replicate some of that impact off the bench if you just play him with Jimmy and Bam more often than not the two you know it's obviously Bam like him and Bam they're too many game is something else but so I just feel like it makes sense to just keep the starting lineup as it is and then maybe your witches is the guy who depending on the matchup is kind of the X factor position right and we talked about that in other pods but I think as as of this point I would guess that you know that's the way to go you just keep it with you keep it rolling man because there's a nice balance with Terry's game and Duncan's game too and we already know that Tyler can do it off the bench so you know it'll be interesting to see how they handle it. Well it reminds me a little bit of a bubble season where they had none or then it was Dragesh with Duncan and I just feel like at this point the flow to it is better I'll say this you know Tyler may end up getting more shots per minute coming off the bench than he does being reinserted into this starting lineup where again now you have Terry who is taking a lot I mean Terry took 20 shots today now again no Jimmy no Tyler but he took 20 shots today he didn't get to the line today but he's going there's going to be volume with Terry that there was not with Lowry and that makes you know because we're begging Lowry to shoot you don't have to beg Terry to shoot especially not lately when he's gotten more comfortable there. I just I think we're past it I mean I asked you about one week if it's two weeks it's definitely no three weeks which is what it looks like it's going to be four weeks I just it's just it's passed the point and I'll return in my view and I think at some point they just need to decide this is our group as long as we have it healthy we're going to go with it I still think the starting lineup needs a little work the numbers on it are not great but again then you know which becomes he kind of becomes like you said the X factor where if it's not working then maybe you try Caleb there you try Hawke is there or maybe even try Highsmith there but I just think the back court at this point it needs to be Duncan and Terry and just roll I that's where I would go with it on the other guys we wanted to talk about today Jimmy I've heard this is not serious and I think he's going to play Monday night in Philly I think okay with him you never know there was I would heard some consideration of him actually playing today which leads me to believe that he's close to playing tomorrow he hasn't been sent home from the trip or anything like that there's a lot more me there's meaning to these two games in Philly in particular and then in Cleveland so I would anticipate he plays Monday night again I'm not going to guarantee it as far as Kevin goes you know I saw Kevin working on the court prior to the game the last home game he's not that far away but as of now I haven't heard he's going to join the team so on this trip they've done that before so the idea that he didn't make the beginning of the trip doesn't mean he's not going to make any of the trip and of course I think he would like to play in Cleveland he missed a game in Cleveland recently he still has a lot of friends family others there and I think if he can play he'll try to play and I do think is even though Thomas Brian gave them some representative minutes we've talked about this a lot how much they need Kevin love back and I so I think that's going to be relatively soon for him to come back Yovitch the hamstring we don't have a ton of information left on that on that they won't push that if it's a hamstring injury hamstring injuries and groin injuries they're typically the most careful with so I wouldn't be stunned if he's out Monday night as well all right we did this for 40 minutes today which was probably more than this game was worth it but BAM saved it so we appreciate everybody joining we had a big crowd here with lives so very thanks for that by the way the kids are running the kids are running everything tomorrow I'm out and Greg's out so you got you get the Brady Alex live stream so they just trashed two of us the entire time we're going to be like a four hour podcast with just the two of them because anytime I tell the two of them just to 15 to 20 minutes get it over with 43 minutes all right have a good night everybody at independent financial we know you were card for your business that's why we were card for you our local bankers are ready to jump in and support your next vision or venture and we have the resources to make it happen ready to get down to business let's talk learn more at iFinancial.com independent financial banking for business banking for life member FDIC we fly Southwest we always give you our mile high heart that's why we're getting Denver more flights than ever before not only do you get our low fares but you'll always get two free bags and never pay change or cancel fees because we mile high heart you Denver but today at Southwest.com based on us do T.O. we scheduled daily flights from Denver starting in July 2023 surpass all prior days as a 512 2023 for second check bags waiting size limits apply fair difference may apply failure to cancel a reservation always 10 minutes prior to schedule the part you may result in forfeited travel funds offer on the stylish HRV or the Honda Civic which car and driver called fun to drive Honda the brand named Kelly Blue Book's KBV.com best value brand for 2023 for a limited time well qualified buyers can get a 3.9% APR on a 2024 Honda Civic or HRV CDL for financing details exclusive against I and type our current driver January 2023 based on 2023 for an image for Kelly Blue Book's KBV.com for more information what if you could have a career where the opportunities are as vast as our nation where it's not about mission statements but a shared mission at US Customs and Border Protection we go beyond to protect more than borders from ship to shore, air to ground, cities to local communities CBP agents and officers are keeping people safe join US Customs and Border Protection and go beyond for something far greater than yourself learn more at cbp.gov/careers
