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This week’s podcast is presented by Stephen and Jacqueline.

We hear from:

Lilian, with thoughts about singing in prison;
Laura from Bedfordshire, who has a plot prediction about the tea room and some questions about Apple Day;
Kirk, who is a fan of Brad;
and finally Marie in Winchester, who has a solution for the Tea Room staffing crisis;

We also have an email from Gillian.

Plus: we have the Week in Ambridge from Suey, a roundup of the Dumteedum Facebook group from Jacquieline, and the Tweets of the Week from Theo.

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Duration:: 55m
Broadcast on:: 27 Oct 2024
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Kurt, who is a fan of Brad. And finally Marie in Winchester, who has a solution for the T-room staffing crisis. We also have an email from Gillian, plus we have The Week in Ambridge from Sui, around the Dumpty Dum Facebook group from Shaqueline and the Tweets of the Week from Theo. So let's start by reminding ourselves of what happened over the last seven days with the Week in Ambridge from Sui. And a lovely people, it's Sui Queen Art here and it's time for another Week in Ambridge. Oh, well, there was ploughing. Home farm got all their fields ploughed by sponsoring the local ploughing match. That is so bright. Ruth won, our Neil came second and was awarded the Ladies Cup because Ruth is a lady but got given the main cup. Sarah and Ruth did a presentation dressed in vintage ploughing on vintage women doing vintage ploughing. And then there was something with a corn dolly that had to be ploughed into the thing. And then Stella gave a talk on seed drills, who was very rawr of. Emma and Alice kissed and made up over a permission slip for horse riding. Ian has become chair of the PTA and held one of those meetings we've all been to if we've gone to anything voluntary. Oh, dear. Everybody went to Apple Day except Valen and Harrison and Ian. Even Chris was there and there was an awkward meeting of Emma and Chris and then apples were peeled and Alice got a C throwing her apple peel over her shoulder. Apparently she's going to marry him except that's supposed to happen on Halloween. Oh, I don't know. Brad got an invite from George to have a trip to prison. Emma and Will did not. Emma was still going to drive him there but, as I said, now I'll be taking him. Ben got a job at the surgery, a part-time job and gave David his flu jab. Neil was at surgery at the same time and there was a Neil Dave bonding moment. And then he went in to see the doctor and apparently he has high blood pressure. Totally expected, given the circumstances around now, he needs to be more touchy feely and he needs to do some talking. Ian was late to the spooky disco because of work but sent Adam instead and apparently he didn't hate it. Ian got stuck with the clean up though which seemed only reasonable. Emma and Felen did not have a happy reunion but Valen told Emma about the EV charging station and Emma made positive noises. Martha was persuaded to go on champion and Emma told Alice that she still... Alice, this is, she still held a torch for Chris and let's not forget the apple peels in a sea. So Jasmine Brad went off to the prison. Brad was very stressed, ball-eyed, missing his lectures, at least he can come home. Emma fell over a shopping and broke the eggs, Valen came to the rescue and she, Emma, this is. There's so many shes in this episode, abandoned the plan for tree surgery and for making omelets for that day. Brad met another visitor who her boyfriend was banged up for a salt. She got him to the right place. George looked like a washed out maggot but said his Brad according to Clary love. Someone defaced George's pictures and George told the screws so somebody peed in his bed and he can't have a new sheet until Tuesday. George told Brad he doesn't want his parents to see him looking like this and to keep his business going that's the most important thing. So Brad, oh Paul Brad, he covered for George and he lied to Emma, which calmed her down a bit. Oh Paul Brad, anyway, we'll see how it all goes next week. Thank you for that excellent summing up, Suey. So how's your week been, Stephen? It's been a fairly routine week at work, a couple of meetings, very similar names which has been confusing me because I'll get messages saying so and so can't attend the meeting. I thought, but the whole point is about meeting is that you're chairing it and then I realize that they can't attend the other meeting which they're not chairing. Have confusing. Yes, my thoughts for scheduling two meetings with virtually the same name right next to each other but they all went well. And domestically I am about to start, I hope, making some kimchi because I've acquired myself a special kimchi fermenting box which is contains about three and a half liters and it's got a membrane that goes on the top. So you fill it up with kimchi when you've made it and then you put this membrane thing on and press it down until all the air comes out and you little hold the air to come out and then you seal that hole and that means you can then leave it for five days to ferment without having to worry about weights to press the cabbage down under the surface of the liquid or anything like that, so it's a cunning device. When we're keen to try it as soon as I've got the last ingredient for kimchi, well actually you know I'm missing two ingredients. One is dried, salted shrimp which adds flavor or I could do it without. The other is the cabbage because it's supposed to be what we call Chinese cabbage or Chinese leaf and what our American listeners would know as Napa cabbage and can't find any of the shops at the moment and I'm not sure that Savoy cabbage would make quite the same thing. No, I'm not sure it would either, they use white cabbage here for shoe-crute and stuff like that, so interesting. You have to keep us posted with that. I will, I will, I will even put pictures on the Facebook group perhaps, not that there's anything going on in the arches about kimchi, but I'm sure Ian would have views on it. But they also definitely had that going on at the average farm at one point didn't they, kimchi and kafir? They had kafir and I thought it's kombucha or something. Ah, you're, yeah you're right, kombucha, yeah, definitely kafir, yes. So that was my week, how about you, how was your week? A busy week in Sanguen because this is the week when we all prepare for Toussaint which is the 1st of November, all Saints Day which we celebrate with gusto here is kind of, it's not kind of, it is a celebration of your ancestors basically and remembering people that have passed before you. It's a very social thing that you go to the cemetery and you clean up the tombs belonging to because we have a very different system here of putting people in the ground, we don't dig a hole, you build a tomb underground, a concrete shell is put in and then you can put as many as up to five people in there, more if they're cremated because you then can put the urn in there. So you go along and the council, we've changed the water system, so there are water pikes all over, everyone who washes down the tombs and you probably don't see some people from one year to the next and even people who aren't cleaning up tombs often go and visit and put flowers on their past members grave. So in fact you end up meeting loads and loads of people and for the first time ever because my husband is now a slightly more retired there was, we went together, normally it's me doing the family's tombs and then my brothers-in-law and sister-in-law pay me for the flowers that I buy and put on them, not for my time of course. But in fact, Lois came with me and so we felt, I felt like he realised what a good thing it is to do because she meets so many people, he met people he hasn't seen since he was at school, it was a very enjoyable but long afternoon in the cold which actually I think I got cold and they are a slightly quirky voice today but, never mind, that's the way of the things. Shall we get on with the important bit, there's caller inwards. First up after the familiar sound will be Lillia. Oh that was good. Hi Stephen, Jaffleen and Oldham Todum as everywhere. Actually calling in as a result of having heard the podcast this morning rather than actually on the week's event in Ambridge because they haven't started to unfold yet. But what I wanted to comment on and I've also commented on the actual podcast in Patreon was Jaffleen mentioned singing in prisons and it occurred to me that if this is offered in the prison where George is, because George has always been quite a good singer it might be something that he can make a car positive contribution to. So just to sort from me, thanks again for the podcast and I'll speak soon. Take care everyone, bye for now. Thank you for that call Lillia and thank you for being a Patreon supporter which is always very welcome, I completely agree with you that if George were able to join some sort of singing group, given that he used to be able to sing beautifully in the church choir, he would get on very well and it would be very for him. Unfortunately, by the sound of it, there's nothing like that at all and this prison is a fairly unpleasant place where the inmates have very little to do, I guess they can go to the gym, I'm not even sure whether George is going to the gym, I know that's the line that he has asked Brad to feed to Emma but I'm not quite sure whether he is doing anything like that and it all sounds a bit grim and I think this is going to be a fairly sad story of George coping with a really tough environment and I hope that we are not going to watch too much of a decline into savagery but it does remind me more of the film's scum with Ray Winston rather than a happy, redemptive story about finding direction in prison. Yes, I have to say I'd forgotten about George and the singing that he sang in the choir but of course that was prepubescent George so everything could have changed since then but he maybe has an ear for music, yeah activities in prison would be great to, as we said last week I think, bringing people together, not team building but learning to do things together as a group but I don't think it sounds like George is going to be joining in, it sounds really, I find it quite distressing the Friday episode, the visit with Brad with George and George's situation and distressing for Brad that he's had to lie at the end of it as well but very good thought, Lillian, thank you for that, yes I would hope that George will come out of that young people's centre, a better man but I'd suspect that it's going to be all downhill and he's going to be very, very distressed and upset and something horrible still happening, we'll have to wait and see, meanwhile something a lot less horrible is our next call, it's Laura. Hi, Dr. Dan, this is Laura from Bedfordshire here, I've got a book prediction, just a question I suppose, we've read about two regularly, my listening, one thing is going on but still so the first one is my population, the Adam and Ian are going to take over the tea rooms, we've had Adam in their last couple of weeks learning from Chelsea and there was a cup of pins I think last week about Ian and how busy he was in terms of the cooking and is he still got grey gables, I'm not like sensual plus the teats of that, anyway and I just suddenly saw, wait a second, what if Ian went to the tea rooms, he can bring his own stamp in the same way that Fallon has done and that's the bit that I know Natasha was talking about when Scotland wasn't it, when they were having a heart to heart at the picnic bench, anyway that's idea number one and then I thought I'd be honest with the question, I don't have children myself so I'm not getting confused here but with apple day, is that meant to be on a school day or on a half-term day because it sounded like all the kids were there but then when Ian was talking about the school disco, so I'm having it on Wednesday which I assume it's cos we've had a week into equally if it's the half-term, two schools half disco in half-term, I know we didn't at my school, I was young but that's a long time ago, so I know he used to mind a little question mark but yeah, something I was thinking about. Alright, thanks very much, bye. Oh thanks for that Laura, you had two great thoughts there, I have to say I shared the confusion over apple day, it seemed to be an after-school activity or the end of the afternoon activity but the children were very much involved but nights are starting to fall fairly quickly, I know it isn't is it? What time does it get out with you now? You can't start round about somewhere between half past five and six. Alright, so they could have had an after-school apple day but yeah, all the children were involved, Keira and Poppy and Martha and everybody was there going along and Lottie was going after they'd had the meeting at 4.30 for the committee meeting for the school, so it was an interesting set-up, it confused me a bit as well Laura. I hear children are on half-term but I don't think in the UK they are yet until, oh they are probably now, they both come yesterday Friday didn't they? Yeah, that's right, apple day is always the 21st of October, it was invented in 1990 by the organisation Common Ground which is a fantastic organisation that campaigns for local distinctiveness and they chose apples as a representative of local distinctiveness because there are so many different types of apples. I think it's been very influential but particularly during the 90s and probably the early part of the new millennium in encouraging people to think about a variety of apples. I have to say that the apples even in supermarkets are so much more variety than they used to be when it was about four different tasteless types of apple and now we get everything and they're also behind the community orchards initiative which I think was what inspired the grunted bid for Peggy's millions, he wanted to create a community orchards in Ambridge. Yeah he did, which he didn't win because rewilding got it. Because rewilding got it because rewilding was family and the grundies of the grundies but half term is going to be next week so yes it was a bit odd to have lots of children's activities in the fairly short period between school and it getting dark but the disco was definitely have been this week before half-term even though Halloween itself or spooky day is in half-term and almost always is. They have to do it, don't they? They have to do it. We have Mardi Gras here and often it falls in half-term so you see the children walking around banging tambourines in a parade before half-term and it seems very weird because it's nowhere near that Mardi Gras. It wasn't just half-term, it was all, so it wasn't just apple day plowing match was also this week. Exactly and the disco, I was quite impressed that they had three activities for three different demographic groups almost in the same week so that certainly gave Sarah a here quite a lot of writing opportunities. Did we want to talk about the T-room since or predicted Ian and Adam to take over and Ian does work at Grey Gables as we found out because he was delayed getting to the disco by having to deal with an appointment at Grey Gables and it was a rubbish person who turned up their interview. Indeed they wouldn't have got past your door would they? It's a great prediction Laura. I think that is a very very good prediction. I've been wondering why Adam has been trained upon this coffee machine when he's actually a farmer and he's obviously very handy for Tom to have as a second hand to the farming part of the growing and the drilling and the picking and organization of that but to be then moved to the T-rooms has been a bit weird at the time when they're having a crisis of course but actually that is such a good prediction. I hadn't occurred to me at all but yes you wonder, you wonder about that. I'm not sure that Ian's available though because as Laura does point out there's the pizza van and he's working at Grey Gables and I'm not sure that the two of them would work well together. I think they're the sort of couple that probably thrive by doing different things and then coming together to exchange their days rather than having spent the whole day together. I think they'd rapidly get on each other's nerves and also that would make it quite difficult for them to keep an eye on Zander. That's very true. What I was fascinated by this week was the fact that everybody mocks Adam. Adam is mocked by everybody for his miserableness. It's not just us. No I mean Ian making those remarks about him at the disco and being shocked that he was handed a bottle of ketchup and stuck on hot dogs for the whole evening. Yeah even Alice was slightly rueful about it. Wasn't she a state? He did but I found the relationship between Ian and Lottie, interesting because they've suddenly become very close almost slightly flirty in the way in which they speak to each other which is obviously a misnomer but I've felt that it was a it's a sudden immediate friendship and they've clicked. They have but what strikes me as odd is and it was odd the previous time we saw all the rock of them together right the very beginning of term and even more so this week is you had Lottie who's best friend in the village is Pip and no Pip and you also had Stella whose partner is Pip and no Pip and it felt like there was a Pip shaped hole in the episode this week. Not to be said too often but yes. Well yes I'm sure there are plenty of people who would say that wasn't a bad thing but it was definitely all these people who are really close to Pip and no Pip and not even much of a mention of her. No no not still apart from what she'd said Lottie said she wouldn't stay and eat because she'd promised she would meet but we also had Stella as she said but we didn't only not only had Stella with Brian which is quite an interesting relationship because they've definitely settled into a good working relationship there where they can kind of dropsh each other but also can be serious and deal with each other although Brian still takes advantage of oh gosh an absolute typical Brian stuck in the 1970s or what but also we had Ruth and Stella now that has always fascinated me as a relationship because they were a couple rather like Lottie and and Ian who clicked immediately and there was a kind of chemistry between them of very good friends and in fact they've still got it whereas we thought I think a year or so ago that maybe the relationship with Pip was going to spanner in that work but it definitely hasn't after this week. No it did feel as if that could have made things a bit awkward with Stella sort of moving from friend and therefore sort of same generation down to not quite prospective daughter-in-law but something along those lines hanging out with Ruth's daughter and therefore being the next generation down I think we decided at the time that her age was almost bang in the middle of the two of them. There's two of them yeah exactly oh that's great lots of food for thought there with your call Laura I think we're moving on now. We are this next call is from Kirk and I'm afraid there's a bit of a sound quality issue Kirk was walking home from a rehearsal when he called and there was some cars and background noise and so forth but I've done my best to make it clear because the content is really good even if the sound quality is slightly less so. Puzzle that it would have dumped it up it's Kirk calling her and ringing again after Thursday night's episode plowing match which is a nice diversion from Paul George affair we were treated to some excellent plowing and some waiting room chit chat which I thought was very good but on the subject of George and asking Brad to visit him in prison over his mum and obviously will or Ed or anyone else I truly believe he's done that because Brad although he doesn't judge he doesn't fall over him either like Emma does and he doesn't tell him the brave or anything he just talks to him almost like he would talk to him anyway he's kind of treated him as a person still yes so Brad is very very much a mate that he needs right now he may not be his best mate and they may grow apart but I really do like the character of Brad and how calm he is and wiser than his years very thoughtful young man and I was very upset when him and the lovely Mia split up so thank you very much Dumpty Dumas and I hope there's some other Brad fans out there thank you very much for that call Kirk and yes I'm quite a Brad fan I think that he is a very interesting character and I absolutely agree with you that George will have seen him as a way of bringing normalness to George's life because as you say he just talks to him in a slightly halting somewhat disjointed way but that's the way that Brad talks to him previously and so I think it gives George a feeling that life is carrying on in a way that Emma simply wouldn't be able to because Emma would be upset the whole prison business would be stressing her out and she would probably leave George feeling worse when she left and when she arrived not because she wanted to but just because she wouldn't be able to hide how upset she was and that would then upset George who is I think feeling guilty about what he did and this would make it worse whereas Brad is just treating him like he's visiting him at number one the green rather than in whichever prison they're in and I'm not sure where they are because it's quite a long drive three hours maybe yeah it's good if just to take Brad to be very supportive of just that I found that Brad hey he was very good with George and as you say nothing changes the way Brad talks to George whether it they're on a farm in somebody's bedroom playing on a game or in a young offenders unit but I was very curious about Brad's nervousness and when he said to Jazza oh I never thought I'm going to prison and Brad and Jazza made a joke of it I thought that was very typical of Jazza to try and highlight just to try and put him at his ease and it's never easy with somebody who's as nervous as that as Brad was about going in but what do you think about the fact that the girl called Rhea with a baby called Tia who's not Mia I found those three names I thought Brad talks to somebody independently and she's called Rhea rhymes with Mia and she's got a baby called Tia so that meeting she was very good to Brad saying is it your first time and all the rest of it but there's a question over why why she was there was it just to put Brad at ease I think she was there to give Brad somebody he could talk to so that we could have a bit of context to the whole thing in jail I think that if you didn't have somebody for him to talk to preferably a fellow visitor then you wouldn't have been able to get across on radio quite what it's like because you can't do people on their own on radio unless you go into some unrealistic monologues so I think it was a dramatic device to enable us to feel how Brad was doing that conversation about Brad saying he felt when he was being searched before going in that he'd done something wrong and Rhea agreeing with him was something how else would you do that if there wasn't somebody to talk to you couldn't have him saying that to the person doing the searching or anything like that no you probably wouldn't have had him saying that to George because it's exactly the sort of thing he wouldn't want to say to George I think having said that he treats George perfectly normally I'm sure he is putting on a brave face in terms of how he was feeling in order to do that being normal and that he was probably feeling quite intimidated by the whole situation but we'd only know that by having conversations like the one with Rhea so I think she was a one-off dramatic device to illustrate what it felt like for Brad that's interesting yeah never thought of it from that point of view I came up or looking for further plot devices to to further George's misery in prison because he is miserable isn't a miserable situation he is Kirk mentioned the plowing match and the fact that we had some high quality agricultural talk and yes we do even if it is a bit old-fashioned it's not just gene burns and Margaret Hawk who were stuck in the park so I think the whole idea of plowing matches these days is a bit stuck in the past they are going on and this is very much the time of year for them in fact last Saturday was the gene burns memorial plowing match in the Isle of Man yeah so that you put a photo on old Facebook what a brilliant find Stephen and that whole thing about having the lovely photograph with the the beret and everything and with her she lay on that had a manc symbol on the back yes she moved to the Isle of Man her father always wanted to live on the Isle of Man for some reason so when he retired he moved to the Isle of Man and she moved with him in 1947 he only lived another four years she then went on and was plowing away at entering competitions back on the mainland I did find a picture of Margaret Hawk as well mostly with a couple of horses I think there's just one photo shoot off her several pictures of her working on a couple of horses presumably plow horses because you think of plowing as being tracked as these days yeah when she and gene learned to plow that would have been during the war and there weren't really tractors during the war it was very much war-strawn at then because petrol was scarce and tractors are quite a new fangled thing but not everybody trusted I found it quite interesting the conversation between Stella and Ruth when Ruth was saying well you're using a field with black grass innards and black grass can only be got rid of by plowing you're getting that done for free which for Susa did her in her summing up but yeah so it was we got a bit of the reasons for and the reasons against no till because we know Stella's right and I love the fact that Stella stuck to her guns about the drill and no till whereas Ruth pointed out the fact that there are reasons for still plowing sometimes but we've had a lot of plowing going on around here this week yes you posted a photograph I think on the face group of plowing in your part of the world yeah next to the cemetery funnily enough so there's the first few calls there's one more to come and that email if you would like to join in by calling us yourself or dropping 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Shall we have that last call then? Yes and this is Marie. Hello Jacqueline Stephen and all Dundee Dummies it's Marie calling from Winchester hope you all well and had a good week yeah it's not been too exciting this week really but I was wondering it's a bit weird that Emma left the tea room because Fallon was working there and it just wasn't tenable that they both weren't there but now that Fallon is leaving why has absolutely nobody mentioned that maybe Emma could come back I would have thought it's obvious she could even manage it I know that she's also doing the tree surgery but they're always desperate for money so I'm sure she could do both jobs anyway just thought I'd mention it because it's not been mentioned and have a lovely weekend and hope we all get up to something spooky that's all a bit boring isn't it the spooky disco anyway I suppose maybe it's a calm before another storm we all need those don't we a bit of calm before the storm anyway I'll stop rambling on and take care now lots of love bye oh thank you for that Marie you can ramble on all you like I like a rambling call yeah it wasn't exciting we I found it an interesting week I've quite enjoyed this week I've enjoyed the every day today's stuff and we've heard Alice and Emma we've heard Bryan and Stella we've heard Ruth and Stella Ian and Lottie as we've said it's been quite a lot of little conversations that are all sifting the scenes and filling in the gaps on personalities that we perhaps don't hear from all the time and of course we've had Neil I haven't found it a teeth grinding or a heart clenching week but I found it an interesting but touching week I quite say yeah Emma could she go back to the tea room because it's not just about Fallon it's also about Tom and Pat and Tony and their attitude to George and Adam works there and he's having nothing to do with the Grendes could she go there maybe she could maybe someone has talked about and she's just in no fit state to do anything I think it's tricky the only personal bridge farm who is being sympathetic towards Emma it's Pat and Pat has her empire which is the dairy and the tea room is somebody else's empire well mostly Natatchers but with a certain amount of input from the others and I think there is hostility from them Adam doesn't get a vote because he's only an employee rather than a part of the family but I think there is a general feeling among the rest of them that the Grendes are beyond the pale and therefore I think Emma working somewhere and doing it in such a public way and yes we've got the window which means that working in the dairy is hardly tucked away out of sight but it's not public to the extent that the tea room is and so I think it was felt when Emma went that that was probably good for everybody involved because they wouldn't then have to worry about what it meant in terms of the bridge farm archers relationship with Grendes but now that Fallon has gone yes it's all a bit desperate but bringing Emma back might sit badly with Tony Tom in Natasha Helen sorry didn't Emma stand in when Clurry was away to sisters and work in the dairy that's yes she's working in the dairy which Pat I think was supportive of though having said it was her empire of course it's Helen's empire really yeah but we haven't had anything about the goats this week no Henry's sprite idea about bringing in a meat billy to mate with Pat's goats I thought Pat's goats are all getting on a bit and therefore the chances in producing viable commercially or even domestically useful meat kids there's quite small chance when I'm out cycling I go past a small holding where they've got dozens and dozens of small goats I don't know whether they are young goats or just small goats but they seem to be the most amazing climbers I've seen them climbing in Morocco in trees but on this farm they seem to be climbing they've put hay bales in and they climb up to the top and they shout at each other it's quite fascinating and but we're surprised that there are from goats at bridge farm because we don't hear them as a background thing or they don't put them in the orchard to eat the remains of the apples and stuff like that yeah yeah that's what pigs are for I don't think you use goats to eat apples well they do eat everything they do but I may not be good for them to eat too many apples whereas pigs can swallow pretty much anything. Apple flavoured milk there are there are pigmy goats so the ones you're seeing if they're very small they're probably pigmy goats when you go to an agricultural show in this country there's often a tent which is purely pigmy goats separate from all the other ones sounds all very cute yes I guess they're good if you've got a small holding you can have a more goats or even some goats some smaller piece of land with pigmy goats and you would with regular ones yes hmm I don't think I'll be going for goats but there we go so I think that's all of our calls thank you so much all of you for calling in and we always say this show is about or to you with the listeners thing so please do tell us how the week was for you in ambridge and call in next week now what about our email Steven our email comes from Gillian it has the subject line dealing with upset and it goes like this hello Jacqueline steven and all dumpty dummers I wanted to write in this week about how the various characters are managing their mental health Harrison has dealt with all his upset by being aggressive sometimes violent and not listening to phalan will seems to be managing his response to things by being angry or rude phalan has been keeping busy and seems to be avoiding taking time to allow her feelings to come to the surface I'm surprised that she doesn't seem to have considered any therapy after nearly dying and being so unsupported by her family I think Neil was also trying to deal with his upset by keeping busy and I'm pleased that he is now on the medical care hopefully he'll find a healthy way of dealing with his understandable stress and upset bye for now Gillian well thank you very much for that there's lots of food for thought there the one person I felt that Gillian missed in all of this um and it's not christian Gillian at all it's Chris because we had Chris being snarky again with Alice this week and I felt that that's his way like Harrison he tends to be a bit abrupt and a bit cross and his way of dealing with things is by being cross and angry but yeah Harrison has absolutely been aggressive and as we saw with his reaction to George very violent and he's definitely not listened to phalan but I would say that phalan hasn't particularly listened to him either she's wanted to sweep it under the carpet I'm worried about Will because he does seem to be managing his response to things by being angry or rude or but is he also not listening is he not making an effort to understand that's interesting Neil's a more complicated person I love the conversation between him and Dave in the doctor's surgery Dave is afraid of needles we managed to inject animals but I think Neil is I don't know whether the right outcome came out of his doctor's appointment because he talked about the stress and but did he talk about the fact that he's having dizzy spells that we don't know yes I think that when I think when Marie was talking about the calm before the storm this week one candidate for the storm is going to be some sort of Neil related crisis of the people that Gillian mentions in her letter phalan of course we've already said might well be suffering from undiagnosed PTSD as a result of the accident and she has been quite manic in many ways she's really thrown herself into the bid for the charging station unit for instance and she's persuaded Harrison to go back full time without them really having a proper conversation about all of that because it came just as Harrison to say he wanted to quit as a police officer altogether so I think the other area where there might be a storm on the horizon is very much in in that relationship Neil and Harrison might have yet another crisis at work because he's been unable to work through what he's doing back full time in uniform whereas phalan will have her own crises because at some point things will stop maybe she will open the unit at the charging station or suddenly look at her life and realize that something has gone wrong even though she feels she's doing what she always wanted to do what she thinks she's doing what she always wanted to do but it doesn't feel right and I think that she probably needs some help there yeah but she's been very precipitous hasn't she in her resigning in the contract not being put in place yet and then she's talking about it with people although she's saying I don't want to talk about it because it's not public knowledge we had that conversation between when she was helping out in the pub that night with Ian was it yeah Ian and yeah I'm not so sure that she's it's gonna come about is the the EV charging station is it built we don't know there's been very little talk outside phalan and her unit we haven't heard from Justin for instance who was heavily involved in promoting it with that meeting in the village hall it's a mistake it is a mystery and we'll just have to see again that might be come a storyline once we get some more people talking we had quite a change of characters over the last few weeks we've got through quite a lot of people so I don't know if there's a new initiative by the program makers to broaden the number of people that we hear not within a single week or within individual episodes but from week to week yeah we seem to be getting a lot more insights as i said earlier more insights into the day-to-day life of and the going zone of different people's lives rather than it's always been singular focus because we've had so long after the long wrong Helen storylines and then the George and the Alice storylines or Alice and then the George storyline so yeah I'm quite enjoying this variety that we're having and seeing other people yeah but they better not do anything to Neil that's all I can say on that note as we've mentioned a few times now Patreon backers have dumped it down now get an ad-free early release version of the podcast around 6 p.m on Saturday this is not a guarantee just a name as there may be weeks when other demands 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Charlie Good will keep you posted. Now let's move on to our Facebook group and give a warm dunty-dun welcome to the following people who've joined the group in the past week. Laura Emmonson, David Steele, Louise Hussey, Philippa Cat, Dave McKuy Peck, Paul Morgan, and Lydia Richardson. Welcome to all. Don't be shy about joining in and never hesitate to start a new conversation and of course it's never too soon to start posting call rendering and email rendering all in the same week. Now let's hear what's been going on in the dunty-dun Facebook group this week from Jacqueline. Hello dunty-dun as if you wear this Jacqueline from price to each year the slightly croaky voice than normal. This is a roundup of the Facebook page after Thursday's episode. If variety is the spice of life then our Facebook page is baucetous spicy this week. We have posts about beets, plowing, dancing police officers, Americanisms designed this potential career path and of course the PTA. Genevieve Anne Holmes is delighted to read that Sir John Curtis is an arches fan. We all know the best people are of course. George is featuring unsurprisingly heavily again this week. Sue Lee shared a link to an excellent radio times interview with actor Angus Stobey on George's fate. Fearing prison might make him worse. Perhaps Julie Williams' post with accompanying pic of some Damara Land branded soap throws some light on why Justin is oh so quiet of late. Omg does Damara even have its claws into Namibia? Found this soap on a recent holiday. Chris Gibson gives Brian's cracking line well you're a better woman than me a bit more well deserved airtime. Audrey Brown has an invitation for Emma. Emma really needs to get down from that cross we need the wood for the fire. If you're not a fan of tempting fate stick your fingers in your ears for the next 30 seconds. Jackie Faire is spreading the fear with the following comment. We haven't had a death for a while. Neil it is. Elizabeth Bien shares some good intel on the cast with. The actor is much older than the character perhaps he wants to retire? While it's a firm no/hands off our Neil from Witherspoon's Mickey Hoddenock and Lillian McCarthy. Terry Woodruff sees the grim reaper coming for red herring it will be Clary or Brian. Helen Cook tries to offer up someone a tad less popular. Rob died not that long ago? Hilary Sanderson reminds us and Jenny's only been 20 months though in a fall is keen on throwing the founder of Summer Orchard well and truly under the bus. No not Neil I propose the lows for Natasha instead. Most terrifying is from Charlie Bird the plowing match of doom. Sue Lee threatens better bloom and not script writers I will seek you out and things will be unpleasant. Which is probably fair enough after how many dummy dummies seem to feel about our Neil. We're an another darker theme from Fiona Vcock. Why do none of the characters have cancer? Rob I suppose but elsewhere no scans, treatment issues with GPs? Mike Jennings comes to the risky with an adorable video of a cute baby rocking some quality jazz hands to barwick green. Suffice to say the baby gets a very happy with barwick green comes on. Michelle Wright is keen to award said baby. Oh I love it is this our youngest umpti dama. Lorna Grayling may also have an entrant in this category with my little girl does this heart emoji cutie. Ray Milner's plot prediction of a drone operated by an unwitting unskilled brad dropping illicit care packages to George while he's in the clink has provided some quality content ideas for the Guardian as Mallie McMerry where there she is a link on this very topic. Barbara Williams questions I don't think brad can be described as a skilled drone pilot with a smiley sweaty face emoji to go with it. Tate Penfold and Sarah Siegel among others are all fearing George's ulterior motives and by extension what that might mean or brad. Thank you so much for all your wonderful posts please excuse the dodgy voice this week. We love to hear what you have to say on the week that was so he had on over to the Facebook page. Have a great week everyone. Bye. Thank you Jacqueline and thank you so much for everyone on the Dumpty Dum Facebook group. If you'd like to join them please do and don't forget to answer all the membership questions so that we know that you're a real person. To answer your question Jacqueline I think the baby in Mike Jennings' video is probably the youngest dumpty dama simply because she was actually at the dumpty dum gets together in Birmingham in April last year but only her parents knew we didn't. Now if anybody out there would like to write as a review please do. There is a link to instructions on how to do this in the show notes. If you can't leave a review or if you already have the other thing you could do is to tell three of your friends about us and even if they're not currently out just listeners, listeners who knows it might be the start of a long obsession and now to Twitter where you will find us at dumpty dum. Make sure you include the arches hashtag using the capital tna so the visually impaired who use screen readers can enjoy any arches based tweets. As well as at dumpty dum Stephen can occasionally be found at whenlock else and we can both also be found chatting about the arches on blue sky that I am at whenlock.bsky.social and I am at jberto.bsky.social so let's find out who has won the Twitter medals this week with zero. Tweet tweet tiger. Hello Jacqueline Stephen and dumpty dummers everywhere. It's purple pumpkin here with treats and skits of the week. This week on twitter and blue sky was brought to you by the colour blue and the word innuendo. There was a stiff competition among the descriptions of plowing for snortl of the week. Was it as gold as ox on the levels at goldilevels.bsky.social and many others thought brian telling stellar I've entered you against the background of rutting stags or as charlie noton at 19 cen called it congratulations on your stunning sorrows or how about matt at matt underscore mark two offering that brian entered stellar without her consent what would jenny have thought also evident was a dichotomy of views on why george wanted to see brad did he just want to talk to someone who wasn't his mum about ordinary things as fiona caspers at f caspers said did he want the normality of a mate there's advanced by Angela dobb at lms bossy or was pickwick the dodo at leslie hustler.bsky.social right to think that it was time for check off drone to come into its own with george wanting brad to use it to smuggling contraband well we now know it was not nefarious purposes but rather that he couldn't face telling his mother how awful things were. There were a couple of other highlights this week for anyone compiling their christmas wish list there's a new book about the archers from producer Julie Beckett so do look out for the archers unseen and kalana girl at kalana girl.bsky.social reminded us that it'll be peggy's hundredth birthday on the 13th of november and she wondered why we haven't heard more about that but now over to this week's medals for blue sky skates and exposts all of which we continue to consider as tweets of the week in bronze position it's a slightly explicated version of what matt at matt_mock2 said. Lumbing L is lotier permanent character now the person so tedious that she's friends with both pith and eon. The silver medalist is catherin at catherin ejr.bsky.social Fallon is the worst secret keeper in ambridge which is saying a lot when susan lives there too. [Music] And the gold medal goes to eon at rootherion. If pen hasn't dressed up as a badger to dispense the flu jab then it's a missed opportunity. [Music] And on that mustard note that's it for this week I hope to see you all on #TheArchers on twitter or blue sky next week. Thank you for that Theo and congratulations to all who were mentioned in this week's roundup and don't forget we're on instagram @dumptidam please send any of the archers or podcast relevant photos to the #dumptidam email and we will publish them with credits to you dumptidam@mail.com. Jacqueline will be away next week and in her place I'll be joined by Michelle who will be bringing her black country charm and wick to the proceedings. We will be recording at the normal time of crack of dawn on sassay morning so please get your calls in by midnight on friday UK time as usual. That as we come to the end of this episode we need to say thanks to all our wonderful contributors and to the team of dumptidamas behind the scenes and we need to say a great big thank you to all of you who are listening to us too. 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